Why are modern cars so BORING?!?

It’s the common refrain from middle aged people like me. Why are today’s car’s so BORING?!? Cars used to be exciting, with sweeping lines and character. Now we’re living in a sea of lookalikes that, rather than getting the pulse racing, makes you fall asleep.
Many large volume car makers seem to have coalesced around one style of car, to the point where it’s hard to differentiate one car from another. So why is that? Why don’t we have the cars we were promised from the visions of the future? Let’s look into why we have cookie cutter cars today, and if there are some exciting cars hiding out there for us to go and buy.
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[@milfordcivic6755]

To me, shopping for an SUV sounds about as exciting as shopping for a refrigerator.

[@Sanpedranoazul]

True!!!

[@Rapscallion2009]

That's about right. Weirdly you end up with "something you should buy" rather than "something you actually want". They've all been clearly designed by committee as virtually everything you can possibly like about them has been taken out as someone else might possibly not. They're basically the equivalent of the crap they serve on the submarine in "The Matrix". Everything you need to keep you healthy, safe and everything is in there. But, by gosh, they're bland and uninteresting.

[@maxmilian294]

tbh shopping for a fridge sounds more exciting

[@PavelSkollSuk]

If you have roads like in Eastern Europe, you are looking for unbreakable tank and design is secondary (or not even on the list).

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

Shopping for a refrigerator sounds a lot more excited TBH

[@darthvirago]

None of the adverts for modern cars makes me want to go out and buy one.

[@archygrey9093]

I think its because they cannot show the car being driven in an unsafe mannor anymore.

[@jimtaylor294]

It takes *effort* to sell a dull car in an interesting way. It's a lost art.

[@Joey856721]

@@archygrey9093 which is absolutely hilarious.

[@tmacthaskydiver8310]

Half the time I have a very hard time telling it's a car commercial at all until their logos pop up at the end 😂

[@wile123456]

Cars should be removed from the streets anyway. Useless, terrible for the climate and ruins cities with how space they waste Edit: I should clarify that I mean inner city streets. If you live in the country side ofc you need a car, but people living in mega cities should never drive. Public transports and bikes should be strong enough that everyone can et where they need to go. Cars simply take too much space when only 1 person is in them, they are too inefficient.

[@unknownpleasures_nic]

This is like that theory that all life forms tend to evolve into crabs, or crablike creatures

[@WhiteChocolate74]

No kidding - I had a dream about that PBS Eons video last night

[@Murkrust]

all crustaceans, but I get what you are saying

[@the-vice]

Carcinisation

[@torstenscholz6243]

All cars do evolve in to crap, apparently.

[@theophilusthistler5885]

That or K-PAX.

[@therealsnoop7497]

5 reasons 1. They all look the same 2. Have the same engines, most have different variations of a gdi turbo 4 cylinder 3. All of them are white, black, or silver. I kinda like black and white, but despise silver 4. Everything’s electronic, and even the throttle control, and steering is electronic, making you feel less connected 5. They got big, accords went from being a compact car, to a midsize car, and eventually a full size car.

[@semerahpadi4484]

Sounds like in Jeju island.

[@Fred_the_1996]

Ikr, the only compact cars I can think of that haven't gotten huge are the Citroen C1 (and the peugeot 108 but they're the same car, different badges), the Toyota iGO, the Smarts, and not much else

[@andrewchin5583]

Yea and then they design new small compact cars to fill in the now empty space left by the previous design now upgraded in the lineup, like i get change is necessary but i think the charm of the original car takes away from the new replacement, for example i would any time of the day choose a 90's civic over a 2018 jazz, well only a car geek would whine over this stuff, buyers just want the compact car but im still gonna whine coz cars got character yo

[@MannoMax]

Dude i feel that. Especially in the upper class. BMW even dropped the I6 from most of their bigger models.

[@jeffatturbofish]

I think I have bought the only car that got smaller with age while picking up additional HP when I traded in my old 2010 MX-5 for a 2021 MX-5

[@arunparkin2552]

One of the problems with modern car design is the car companies reaction to "boring" cars of the 2000s. To make the car look less boring they add in a bunch of fake vents, creases and overly aggressive headlights. And now instead of being boring they are now ugly and look like boy racers.

[@campkira]

safety law and shit.. the rest just made for cheap...

[@The12thDimension.]

And also massive front grills that make the car look like it's either screaming or going to eat you.

[@MNanme1z4xs]

They are 30 years behind IT electronic in terms of design philosophy

[@grahambarnes7325]

I'm glad there's safety laws. I like staying alive.

[@fortheloveofnoise9298]

@@grahambarnes7325 I wish there was a way to be allowed to not follow safety laws but just have to warn customers. Most people care about safety, but I don't. I would love a new sports car designed for the driving experience and design only...with no effort put into safety.

[@onfin3al6]

The so called SUV is nothing more than a nearly useless station wagon , and over priced as hell in most cases .

[@LucasFernandez-fk8se]

I like SUVs but I think there are too damn many of them. In the 2000s they were fine but now they are like 60-70% of all the cars on the road. It’s ridiculous. And I think they are pretty, imagine if you hate SUVs

[@watchforlife]

@@LucasFernandez-fk8se almost every car on the road today is a midsize "SUV". All look the same, similar,none is unique nor stands out. Just blandness galore!!

[@Davierraven]

Useless?

[@spicytuna62]

I do love that some wagons are coming back. My wife's 10th gen Accord has TONS of leg room in the back, but not so much to speak of in terms of head room if you're over 5'9" tall. If Honda revived the Accord Wagon, that 2.0 turbo engine would make for a really fun family hauler for a tall family that would probably be really good on fuel.

[@scaldabagnoincrostato5402]

SW are more beautiful than SUV

[@rorymacve]

As a 27 year old, the thing I find most glaring about modern cars is they take the 'drive' out of 'driving'. With adaptive cruise control and other modern features you simply flick the autopilot on and the car trundles down the motorway at its own sweet pace with little input. The truth, I feel, is that car builders have hit the proverbial buffers as far as technology and styling can go, as aside from concepts which, at this stage, still haven't been cracked (such as infinite range batteries with indefinite lifespans and widespread clean-fuel alternatives like hydrogen cells), it's just the same slew of electrics and petrol/hybrids. As you described in your video, looking for a crossover SUV for my mum has been like reading the menu at a restaurant that serves only hamburgers - same concept, just with a few additions or variations here and there. As for styling, I really don't know where they can go from here, they've followed the streamlined design cue so far that if they got any more streamlined they'd just be flat arrows, like a mouse cursor. Honestly, while I appreciate the technology and driver features modern cars have to give, they have no real personality like classic cars. There's no sense that this was the hand-crafted product of men determined to deliver a car to 'you' personally, rather than what is the equivalent of a mass-manufactured white good thrown together by robots in 6 hours. At the same time, driving an old car, you feel you are part of the actual driving process, with no computers and systems monitoring everything you do to ensure you get from A to B without much fuss. I like fuss, even if fuss ends up leaving me on the side of the road in a cloud of steam! :D

[@RudyG01]

Ayy I love your vids :D

[@BigCar2]

I own a Tesla, and I like using autopilot for stop/go traffic. Inching along yourself is so annoying. But the Tesla is a car that’s trying something different, even if the shape is the same as all the others. I like cars like the Fiat 500 that have some personality (even though that’s a copy of an old style), or the original Renault Twingo. We need more of that.

[@Colt45hatchback]

The thing that gets me is, even a simple car like a 1977 toyota corolla sedan or a 1979 datsun sunny (b310) is exciting to drive, but not difficult. It wouldnt be that much work to design it slightly differently to make the body stronger and the interior cheaper to make and easier to assemble (clips instead of screws, flush joints etc) and the driveline could be made relatively easy too, you dont need a complex independant rear suspension for a daily driver, a live axle 5 link with coil springs is good enough. As for the fuel economy. As long as a car gets 10L/100km im happy. I find myself spending the same money i would on a new car, fixing years and years of "oh its only a $500 datsun just do it cheap" in order to make it as it was back in the day. But once its all done, its absolutely worth it. Im quite sure that besides emissions laws, you could build a b310 sunny 4 speed manual for about $2500 australian dollars if you made enough of them, probably about 4000 if you had to beef up the bodys rigidity and add crumple zones etc and im not even sure it would be all that hard to make the engine pass emissions...well at least outside of europe. I understand its not something everyone wants. Hell it seems nowdays people cant even work out if their high beams are on or not and modern cars you cant see out of easily so maybe those lane change indicators are a good idea on those cars, but you dont need them on an older car. Dont even need a stereo really. Just a usb port and a headphone jack connected to an amplifier and speakers. Everyones got every cd/tape/8 track radio station in their pockets already with a decent quality output. Just plug it in. Idk feel im rambling on now. But i cant justify buying a new car. Even the sports models arent very exciting. The mx5 and the fiat 124 are the only things i find mildly exciting, and even then its not quite what i want. Id want the fiat styling in a hardtop/coupe, with a japanese engine with a turbo. And of course in a manual. The new mustang is popular here. Perhaps we could get some more sports cars, even economy versions of them. Hell a 124 coupe in a base trim with a non turbo 1.3 and a 5 speed manual on steel wheels would be fine. Id buy that. Plenty of room for mods later but cheap and reliable in the interim

[@street-level]

Whilst I agree with your sentiments, "there speaks a young person", who presumably enjoys tinkering with old cars. I have done all of this, especially with old Minis. However, modern cars simply work (well most of the time). 😂

[@Colt45hatchback]

@@street-level i agree most of them do. But i find that they arent something you can just own for 30-40 years. By the 10 year mark theyre becoming a liability more than an asset it seems like manufacturers traded body rust for mechanicals that are near enough to single use items, by that i mean that once theyre due for a rebuild, the casing the parts go in have fatigue cracks or can only be machined once before theres not enough "meat" in it to fit a replacement bearing or such. Not to mention the electronics which become unreliable themselves, even simple things like an idle speed controller. Once its worn out its not really repairable, its gotta be replaced, but if no one cares about that car anymore, you cant buy one, and if you cant get the check engine light to stay off, you cant pass the vehicle inspection and keep driving it

[@davideyres955]

Also cars are getting unnecessarily big. Each iteration seems to grow by an inch or so. My garage isn’t getting bigger and I don’t want my nice new car getting bird crap on it daily.

[@MHammonds18]

yeah, cars are getting a lot more 'chunky-er'

[@WarBirdGhost]

Heavier and getting tinier engines every year. .

[@plottwist1733]

That's capitalism for you. Everything has to be as excessive as possible.

[@ngndnd]

for real, i see all these bmw’s and mercedes and cant tell if they are supposed to be a sedan or an suv disguised as a sedan. Same with tesla, the size makes the car look ugly in my opinion.

[@manedwolfwithagmailaccount1478]

@@plottwist1733 lmao always gotta be about politics don't it?

[@verttikoo2052]

We went to a parking lot and my friend complaint that all the cars were gray (all 20 of them). I had to remind him that his car is also gray 🙄

[@BigCar2]

😂

[@AmigaA-or2hj]

My cousin had a chocolate brown Austin Maxi during the 1980s.

[@shadyboi7830]

lol

[@cybair9341]

Grey cars are less visible on the road and are a safety risk.

[@tudormese]

@@cybair9341 Good

[@jeffatturbofish]

In the US, it is even worse. There aren't many cars available, everything is a pickup or crossover/SUV and the average new car price is $33K

[@iamwritingrightnow8217]

same thing in my country and the worst part is that those corssover/such are actually the best selling cars...

[@ristekostadinov2820]

Dodge Challenger looks cool and they are around 30k but you americans are realy into v8 muscle cars and people are laughing at those who drive smaller displacment muscle car.

[@loca8522]

In germany we have some variety but we are also going towards suvs and Crossovers. And most cars here are based on vws plattforms. But i think our variety is still way bigger than in the us :)

[@jeffreyrainey1015]

Just like people do minivans now? FOr every family who happily got on board, I'm sure there were car enthusiasts and traditionalists lamenting about "yuppies" from their brown station wagons.

[@starion1121]

I miss affordable compact trucks

[@sunfishensunfishen2271]

Dude you don’t have to be middle aged to feel this way. This is why I went and found a nice 95 wrangler

[@Slommy99]

🤮

[@sunfishensunfishen2271]

Gtfo

[@nerdy8675309]

Just got an '18 JK and love it. used to have a '94 YJ and love that the styles carried all the way down the line thus far.

[@rich7447]

I like the YJs. We sold our TJ last year.

[@dummy3467]

The Mustang Mach E basically shits all over Henry Ford’s grave. Plus, Rest in Peace Mitsubishi Eclipse and Lancer. We will never forget you… 😔✊

[@sehhmie5483]

@Legion they still made v8 mus

[@sehhmie5483]

@Legion you people should cry for something important, the reason these cars gets so “boring” is you, you are the market, they listen to what market wants, look how many actual fun cars that doesnt sell well and waste of source and money, if you want an example look at lancia, people admire their legacy and contribution to rally but actually no one buys them and so fiat take a lead and making it much more worse than they are in 90s

[@Zenan466]

@@sehhmie5483 that’s why i would probably use a Mazda MX-5 as a fun car when I am getting older and having more money. Some of my friends for example are just looking for a BMW 2 series Roadster… It’s freaking boring.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

It's a decent vehicle. They called it a Mustang for marketing reasons. But as an EV, it's OK. It's just too tall. I think this emphasis on height is really silly.

[@paladain55]

To be honest since they still have the mustang "fastback"(?) not really a big deal. But if they would've cancelled the mustang and did the mach-e i would agree. Also, Henry Ford I was the king of boring cars. He would probably be proud if you ever saw the Edsel. lol

[@Chriswizzv12]

We lost so much wheh we lost pop up head lights.

[@Jasuta123]

i personally dont like popup headlight .... i feel like it will reduce the MPG because extra drag ... or maybe just me

[@khairulhelmihashim2510]

from safety point of view, pop up headlight has an added risk of getting stuck.

[@Chriswizzv12]

To those who think pop up headlights might cause safety of mpg issues, these were off set as they looked so dam cool.

[@halnwheels]

In my opinion, popup lights were only necessary on cars that had an extremely low hoodline with minimal vertical front surface, like on my Fiat X1/9. And now that manufacturers can use aerodynamic covers over the headlights, cars like my Pontiac Solstice don't need them. I thought Fiat did a pretty good job with them, though. I never had an issue with them for the many years I owned it.

[@aaron___6014]

Nah, when just gained two headlights that always work unless a bulb is burnt out.

[@stephenshipley1066]

I just wish that so many didn't look like cycling helmets :-(

[@ctg6734]

Probably the best description!

[@MegaJani]

This is underrated

[@BruceCarbonLakeriver]

on point bud!! Fully agree :)

[@404nobrakes]

even cycling helmets look more exciting, to be fair. Like the MET Trenta that this year's TDF winner wears.

[@ryenji9937]

ive never seen a comment so accurate

[@chance20m]

Something I've noted over the years is that car enthusiasts often have difficulty wrapping their heads around the fact that for many - and probably most - people, a car is nothing more than a tool to get from home to work and back. They don't particularly care how it looks so long as it fits their needs, they aren't emotionally invested, and they don't particularly like driving.

[@ThatCrazyKid0007]

Oh they're aware, they just feel superior because they are actually into cars and think everyone who doesn't share their interests is a boring fuck. It's like the PC hardcore gamers vs everyone else that occasionally play games. SUVs to car lovers are what mobile games are to PC gamers basically.

[@bohemondiofantioch539]

​@@ThatCrazyKid0007 Yeah a lot of the comments here were clearly typed out with one hand.

[@NexusWarior211]

Normies are just cattle, yes.

[@tdrxy]

What about the x6m? Tracks as a sports car, safety and feeling of a suv. How's that a bad thing? Or take the x5m as an example if you're not particularly into the x6 design

[@radithorsnapdragon3812]

I hate car based infrastructure. It's a scam. I hate owning a car and all it's costs and I hate hate hate driving BUT if I have to own a car I want it to look as cool or beautiful as possible. I'm so tired or watching grey cough drops fill the road in gridlock.

[@hopfaundfelder3375]

Also, manual. Buy manual if you want to have fun. I couldnt imagine anything more boring than driving an automatic, even if it had several times the horsepower.

[@zuhayerahnafaziz6956]

Literally the same feeling I get when I get stopped on the red light. Sometimes, I feel like launching my car on 'L' when light turns green, thinking that I am on first gear. I know it's definitely not a smart thing to do. Anyway, I am getting a manual transmission car in the future because for me, I don't want to live the rest of my life with the misery of driving an automatic. Let's see what happens.

[@steven_ardian2845]

i have no problem with a automatic as long its Buick Grand National or a 69 Hurts / Olds (just my opinion tho)

[@joeidaho5938]

Agree completely. Slowly, the real skills of driving are going down the toilet, as a whole. It's no wonder newer vehicles are more lulled into getting into accidents, regardless of all the technology they're equipped with that are supposed to make them safer...lol. The cars involved in the most accidents are all basically luxury SUVs. Not surprising at all. I certainly don't see any older cars in those lists, as being the most accident prone.

[@isakjohansson7134]

I prefer driving manual but conventional autos feel kind of nice too

[@DavidUKesb]

Most autos can be driven in manual mode if you prefer.

[@fastertrackcreative]

"I think we're slowly moving into a monotone world." I know the feeling 😐

[@mauritsvw]

Isn't it sad? Still some interesting colours from the East, though.

[@OverlandTT]

As the world become numb and ashamed of everything and everything - it’s “progressive”

[@ieronymos9265]

Just our “democracies;” our politicians.

[@leonpalmer2429]

Facts i think we have reached the peak of innovation. Were do we go next?

[@OverlandTT]

@@leonpalmer2429 make a real world matrix or judge dread. We will all have three sea shells to clean our non-binary self! ☺️

[@depmodeno]

Most cars are bland, like the owners.

[@warrenny]

@@awesomeone2979 can't beat the aesthetics of a Schwinn

[@fortheloveofnoise9298]

@Babayega Those who have sold their souls for money have become dead inside and they by cars that reflect that.

[@PaniniMattGFC1893]

@@sohrabrustum8582 Online car sharing if I need a car

[@geoffwood211]

well said i daily drive bmw e39 540 80 percent off population are not car lovers just a form of transport to them thats why it appears like there is a lot of deadshits driving boring shitboxes having worked on all brand of car for over 30 years this illusion that mazda make quality is just that an illusion boring low quality shitheaps with overpriced parts vw group shitboxes don't get me started

[@NorwayChallenge]

I never thought I'd see a comment that seems to be written by a boomer, snowflake hybrid, but here we are.

[@cammymillard7385]

They're all automatic suvs driven by single mums with the attention span of a goldfish

[@michaeld7409]

You won the comment section 🥇

[@RennieAsh]

"Got to get something big and safe for the kids" *Drives being distracted by said kids and phones, or rushing impatient to get to the school etc

[@bramvanhooijdonk1185]

Top tier comment

[@youngmarriage5717]

Pretty much.

[@edrian780]

🥇

[@samjudge1240]

I would image it be disheartening, having children who enjoys making car designs, be making mediocre and soulless cars in the future.

[@alfred0621]

That's a part of growing up. Realizing you'll never be amazing. At least for most of us.

[@samjudge1240]

@@alfred0621 Now hold on, just because you get older doesn't you can't be amazing, you just got to take command for yourself and be excellent to it.

[@coquimapping8680]

@@alfred0621 It’s never too late to be the most amazing you can be.

[@MrOiram46]

They can still find a job where they don’t have to make mediocre designs in video game design or the film industries.

[@samjudge1240]

@@MrOiram46 Witch in optimistic level, I'm sure it's possible to make custom cars by more independent means, like self-own car shops.

[@faramarzkarimi9845]

the most horrible boring cars trends today is god damn crossovers, it's utterly nightmare. less excitement , efficiency , soft ride and useless cabin space i hope this trends era soon be over

[@DashCamSerbia]

*Crossdressers...

[@parrotantics2046]

Unfortunately, fads are something we can't deny their existence. We can simply stay away. Dunno if this will fade away if small cars' production becomes one day more affordable (now it isn't thanks to fucking EU).

[@faramarzkarimi9845]

@The Catmother a RWD sleeper station is multipurpose too and it have very fun to dive, people tastes could change for an example transition of MPVs to crossovers in between 2004-2014 .now a day no one drives MPVs that once had a hot market i did said crossovers era must end i didn't said this segment should be fade away cuz peoples needs crossovers i hope a day comes people move from fuckin crossovers to RWD sedans or stations

[@faramarzkarimi9845]

@@parrotantics2046 fads are conducted with big auto industries and marketing like MPVs era, people should think before select a car without pre inspired by auto industries and their marking dealerships. and it need cultuerize people to aviod traped with them

[@Zero_Ninety]

The Catmother How is a stupid SUV/crossover any more multipurpose than an estate/station wagon?

[@MrKillswitch88]

I remember people calling 90s and 2000s cars as jelly beans then moving on into the 2010s and now the 2020s with the angry jelly beans.

[@acarnivorouscat4549]

Lol jelly beans

[@Leptospirosi]

Let's say that there were a lot of bad models but also great ones with plenty of design behind. I'm all for the old stuff and a child of the seventies and eighties, but let's be honest: most of the eighties designs were boxes and the seventies were superimposed slabs... What matter was that there wass still the will and thegutts to try something different: just think of the first Audi TT or the Renault Avantime, whether you liked those or not

[@dirtylaundry00.]

angry angular jelly beans

[@petrichor446]

It's a perpetual loop of the same kids who also blather on about how "old music iz beterr!1!" And "the 80s looked so much better than today..,.." At some point those kids when they get up are going to pulsating with nostalgia over these "boring dumb modern cars"

[@CyAn-S]

this whole video is just rambling. Cars in the 50's and 60-'s looked the same as well. same with 70's and 80's. It is called TRENDS. Cars that come out now are so different from each other, it is funny how people think they all look the same. Sure there are cases where the differences are minor, but especially for the last 2 years, many cars have be come exciting and quirky again.

[@TranscendentalAirwaves]

"I look at the interior and not the exterior" What a bizarre idea, I look at both equally but outside is what really sells the car for me and not a single large car company has produced a car in the last 15 years that has gotten my attention.

[@Carlos-bp1vp]

I thought "strange to make a video about why cars are boring, then say you don't care about the exterior" 🤯

[@randomgamer6118]

Thing is, the majority of car buyers are going to be stuck behind the steering wheel in traffic, so it makes sense that they only care about the interior

[@Zenan466]

@@randomgamer6118 true, but every morning I am walking to my car, it should give me a smile on my face.

[@saadbodla3092]

LAMBORGHINI MCLAREN JAGUAR ROLLS AND MANY MANY OTHERS

[@JeanMarceaux]

Not even Kia Stinger?

[@morrisjvan]

It is just the fashion of the time. Go back to the vehicles of the 1920's and every one looks exactly like a model A .

[@MoskusMoskiferus1611]

True, but even with The Popularity, there always be some that are different than most

[@MyDaughterMynemesisofficial]

as time passes i began to appreciate and love the older cars....

[@PJBonoVox]

It's just the chrome that I miss.

[@watchforlife]

Same here

[@NFSMAN50]

I do miss seeing the big boaty land yachts on the streets. I've always been a fan of old school sedans like the Caprice, Town Car, Fleetwood, Contiental. The 300, S-Class and the G90 are the last of a dying breed i appreciate though. I feel so out of place with my generation, who seems to care about foreign luxury cars

[@KitKitChanIsaac]

@@NFSMAN50 I get excited every time I see just an old car (no matter its JDM,V8 muscle or European classics)

[@PU8698]

@@KitKitChanIsaac Same. In my country old cars get more attention than modern sports cars, I wonder why...

[@pmkeith]

Because they are all just the same old cars “jacked up” 30 centimetres, with crap low powered 3 cylinder petrol engines and marketed as “SUVs”.

[@ca4129]

"Vacuum cleaners" for engines...

[@Bartonovich52]

I don’t. I still see a few of those old cars around.. but not for long as they disappear into the rear view.. schooled by a base model turbocharged four cylinder that IMHO sounds better than a V8-most of which have broken exhaust studs and gaudy glass packs so it sounds like it’s going to explode at 3K RPM and 35 MPH.

[@toffeekins74]

@@Bartonovich52 Sorry you can't afford a V8!

[@toffeekins74]

@@commander_langleyyt6502 I do and a reason why I only drive V8s!!! Current car ticks ALL the boxes, great looker, safest car in USA in 2012, 100% reliable, very fast, exclusive, and people don't like it that I can afford to drive one! What is it? I am working-class, but still have one! I drive a Chevrolet Camaro SS which is a 2013 model, and which Mustang drivers hate as it is a far better car! I missed out on the bright orange one I wanted, but have a silver one at moment. May get a ZL1 with super charger in future.

[@toffeekins74]

@@Bartonovich52 Funny how all these boring four cylinder cars are not around in the future, as they have to go to the scrap yard as they are not designed to last!

[@42luke93]

I liked the 90’s because it was both new like these but had characteristics of old cars such as front split bench seating.

[@garbage_bin]

"The Dacia sandero, that's a name a Haven't heard in a long time"

[@Pekoe.]

“Bad news! The Dacia Sandero has been canceled!” “Oh no! Anyway”

[@NotJohnTanner]

James May

[@JTM610]

Is that a Ben Kenobi AND a James May reference?!

[@doso4782]

@@JTM610 hows it Ben Kenobi?

[@TF2Scout..]

@@doso4782 James Kenobi

[@artistmac]

People now want "safe", meaning they don't want a scratch on them after they hit a bridge abutment, pole, tree or another vehicle while texting.

[@streddaz]

And that’s a bad thing that they want a safe car?

[@artistmac]

@@streddaz It's a bad thing if buying a car touted as "safe" makes people think they don't have to be cautious, sober and aware behind the wheel, which are the three best safety features any car can have and have been since horseless carriage days, and have nothing to do with lap/shoulder belts, airbags and ABS. Look right, then left, then right again. And do NOT go around lowered railroad crossing gates.

[@streddaz]

There’s been people not paying attention, speeding, drink driving and generally not being in full control of their car long before any modern safety devices were fitted to every car, so you can’t say that accidents are a result of people being complacent. Road tolls per capita are drastically down from 30 to 40 years ago and the main reason for this is the safer cars now are.

[@artistmac]

@@streddaz People are complacent, doing the things I mentioned, because of those safety devices. Nobody should be texting, watching TV on their phones, or, in the case of these "self-driving" cars, reading a book. "Drastically down!?" "Per capita!?" Not much comfort (or it shouldn't be) if the person lying dead in the seat of his "safe" car is you or someone you love, because of an accident caused because a driver didn't give full attention to traffic on the road. As you said, even though accidents are fewer, there are still accidents, and fatal ones at that, that never, ever should have happened. "Accidents" are caused, and they're caused by drivers. Best not to count on a car, any car, to save your life because you or someone else wasn't paying attention.

[@streddaz]

So you are saying that if a person was driving a old car they wouldn’t text or be distracted? I don’t think so, people are people and as I’ve said before they have been dodgy things while driving since cars were a thing. The real solution? Take the driving away from people altogether and let the car do the driving. It won’t be all that far away.

[@Tacko14]

Thank you. I remember, at age 3, being able to spot a car by its hubcaps. Now I have to look at the nametag but I can’t be bothered. We could start by ordering fresh colours, we can wait a bit longer. The world could use more colour

[@richardcrossley5581]

Walking home from the pub, I used to try and guess cars by their lights.

[@soundknight]

@@richardcrossley5581 me too

[@RaposaCadela]

Damn, lots of nostalgia for that, actually. I used to live in an apartment that had a view of the highway at that age, and I'd spend hours looking the cars. Then on the road, my dad would ask the names of cars he pointed at, and I'd guess them. Right, most of the time, too. Nowadays, I wouldn't be able to tell one apart from the other.

[@JTA1961]

Black cars matter

[@richardhammer187]

@@richardcrossley5581 try that now, some modern lights will burn your retinas out!

[@Saffy1]

Where I live everyone drives station wagons, hatchbacks, sedans minivans etc. There is not much SUV driving around here, I like it

[@Fred_the_1996]

Same

[@georgeb5262]

I live in country with a lots of mountain roads. Here possess SUV isn't good idea, because it neither can go off-road, neither be stability in the turns. Don't even mind the fact they are heavy af. But a lots of people get it anyway.

[@MHammonds18]

lucky bastard, here in america you don't go anywhere without seeing a crossover or an suv

[@davidbwn]

So what did I do in my wagon. Pass a Ferrari going over a speed hump doing 60kmh. Nicely muddied up a white SUV while bushbashing with a Toyota LandCrusher up my arse. Was a white SUV.

[@ZePopTart]

@@MHammonds18 there’s actually not a lot in my part of California. Nobody can afford kids anyways so there’s a lot of sedans 🥲

[@that_dude_with_the_torino1171]

"there are some good designs out there"- proceeds to list some of the ugliest cars currently produced

[@NickG123]

Honestly, that suiside door Nissan thing made me put my hand over my screen. I can't believe someone actually designed that thing. (at 7:35)

[@skhaiwalker5408]

@@NickG123 gear up for the "I'd like to see you do better" replies

[@jimbob3030]

I just bought a fiat 500 and was surprised to see it top his list. I actually like the car more than I thought I would, but I also think it looks like a clown car and bought it because it was cheap and fun and drives like a go cart.

[@Hargan]

JUST THINK! In 20 years time, there will be a generation that idolizes crossovers 🤮

[@dbclass4075]

@Harry Bell I don't think people really like to drive in the first place, if they can.

[@somervillearron]

@Harry Bell yeah you will just be layed at the side of the road

[@dbclass4075]

@Harry Bell That is still technically driving, with two wheels. You still like to drive, but not following trends.

[@dbclass4075]

@@somervillearron They are nimble, you know. Motorcycles may be terrible at crash protection, but are easy to avoid one. Most SUVs are the other way around, and probably one of the main reasons many mothers prefer such vehicle.

[@depmodeno]

Harrison Ganner nah I don't think so

[@AntJoseph_]

I'd agree. The early 2000's cars were the last ones with some personality.

[@soundknight]

SOME! ;)

[@northernchaotic7196]

I'd say mid 90s.

[@AntJoseph_]

Northern Chaotic you have a point. But late 90’s cars had a lot of personality as well, specially the Japanese ones

[@notboris8217]

Bit of a Puritan, I am; mid 80s is when they got majority boring

[@phil955i]

Early to mid 2000s IMO, but yeah

[@lidge1994]

Before I watch the video, here's my guess: Most people don't want a "Car", they want private transportation to and from work or stores. I for one would love a GT-R or 350Z/370Z because they look amazing and sound fun to drive. Other people want a safe, reasonably priced, reasonably fast, reasonably good-looking car and don't care that 80% of cars withing a 1km range look almost exactly alike.

[@alfred0621]

Reasonably good-looking - that's where 99%of the cars, today failed to impress me

[@andrewchin5583]

Well still being a car nerd i still won't even dream about having those cars coz i know i couldn't afford them, but i'd still like something maybe i could get my hands on like the 86,mx5,if im lucky a good condition evo(hmm yea on 2nd thought this is dreaming) or i would just overtune a 1.5L 4 cylinder hatchback into something that lets bmws intake be a dust collector

[@quintessenceSL]

Which would be fine, IF it were also cheap and durable. Most modern designs are overpriced trash. Maybe kudos for the golly-gee technology, but then you are stepping away from basic transportation into mobile amusement center.

[@lidge1994]

@@quintessenceSL yeah in about 10-15 years they went from mastered semi-new technology that was pretty durable to always new technology that breaks too often and is unfixable. Also stupid and dangerous to use. What moronic assholes decided pressing a small button on a barely responsive, low quality display is better than a round, tactile dial? Thankfully Dacia is smart, their electric car, Dacia Spring, has the interior of a late 2000s-early 2010s car with dials, navigation, buttons etc.

[@auberginemanproductions1608]

@@lidge1994 Did I hear Dacia? Is your favourite car, by chance.... the *Dacia Sandero?*

[@streddaz]

To everyone that says that “modern cars are boring”. There’s plenty of old boring cars. “Old cars are more reliable” Most old cars needed a lot more servicing than new cars. “New cars all look the same” There’s plenty of old cars that look the same too. People who were older in say the seventies had the option of cars in that era all looked the same and the generation before that would have also do so too. As the video summed up, there are a lot of current cars that look the same but there’s one’s that don’t too. Just as there always has been. Everyone just needs to stop looking at the past through rose tinted glasses.

[@milchomarkov8158]

Spot on! They still still suck.

[@seangallagher6075]

You obviously don't work in a garage... Modern cars are absolute garbage.. a lot of them now need to be put on the back of a flat bed just for a simple puncture & some need all four tyres changed which is big money.. Most of these modern cars won't last over 10 year's...

[@Jeff-bd5yo]

Yeah no modern cars don't have shit on older cars for reliability. Older cars didn't "need" more servicing, maybe old cars need more servicing today because they're old cars, but back then you changed the oil and all was well. I do know of many older cars that are unreliable but the average older car is far more reliable than newer cars because of less electronic controls, plastic, retarded and complicated engine and transmission designs etc.

[@17gdpr37]

"People will compromise on their car so they can have it now" Me waiting two months so I can have it in neon blue: yeah sure man

[@lot.bajrami]

Not everyone is picky in cars

[@mericelik22]

I heard that the door handle we see everyday makes it easier for rescuers to pull stuck doors

[@ZeroNiteLite]

Tend not to stick so much in cold weather also

[@dbclass4075]

It is also the easiest to use, as you can grab it from above, or below (the latter is required for older car handles).

[@AlfaGiuliaQV]

Honestly, it is the most practical design, so i'm happy it caught on. I would never trust a Tesla handle.

[@guardraillover5044]

and also break to pieces in 10 years when the rescuers are pulling it hard no hate, just joking

[@notmenotme614]

Just cut the roof off.

[@fercabrera7274]

WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT NOWADAYS CARS ARE DESIGNED BY PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE CARS.

[@Sandstorm366]

And FOR people who don't like cars.

[@sehhmie5483]

You dont know what the nightmare is when making design for cars to be approve by the companies

[@dannydvn]

Props to you for saying "Dacia" the correct way.

[@residentelect]

I'm not complaining. The 2019 Peugeot Series brochure cured my insomnia! Fine minutes with that bad boy and I was out like a light!

[@bangerbangerbro]

The new range of Peugeots actually look quite nice for the most part.

[@mrdaykurutakuchannel]

True they roar again since the introduction of the new 3008!!

[@richardhammer187]

@@bangerbangerbro spot on, the 2019 208 is a superb looking thing, offering an alternative to the white goods VAG produce. However it's French, so that immediately means it's crap...

[@bangerbangerbro]

@@richardhammer187 Yeah, the 208 and Corsa look nice, and the the new 408 I think looks pretty good as well. But I don't know how good they would actually be as functional cars being Peugeot.

[@richardhammer187]

@@bangerbangerbro should be fine, and easily as reliable, if not more so (according to recent surveys), than anything German!

[@pettttson]

Personally, I prefer older rides. Like Volvos from the 60's. Those cars never break and are very fun to drive. Because you can hear the engine working hard and the steering is so connected to the road. Unlike newer cars where everything is electronic.

[@nicholasapodoattyang4035]

Volvo 343 DL for instance.

[@susansnoer6117]

@@nicholasapodoattyang4035 343 was not a volvo but a dutch bild "big DAF"

[@Brinta3]

@@susansnoer6117 What’s your point exactly? It was called the Volvo 343, so Nicholas is not wrong.

[@neilbutler2911]

@@Brinta3 the Daf 77 as it was known became the Volvo 343. Much like when the new mini came out and Bmw took the design that had already been made after buying Rover.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

I had two 72 Volvo 164E and my sister had a 144. I had a 1990 760 Turbo. I now have a 2002 s80 and it's quite reliable. And I was surprised by that. The 72s had their share of issues, especially the 164Es. None of them feel like they would "break" in terms of they felt solid. But in terms of reliability and how much maintenance they needed, the 72s had the most mechanical issues. As far as the feeling the road, they all had varying degrees of stiffness in their steering and I have to say the steering improved as they got newer. Honestly, I like today's Volvos best. The only thing I don't like is the lack of buttons inside and visibility has gotten worse with each new generation. But the styling and refinement is better in the new ones.

[@rushnerd]

I picked up a 70K miles 94' Camry a few months ago. I know it's one of the most solid and long lasting cars on the road BAR NONE. It became so safe and boring to me that I picked up an 88' SUPRA a few weeks ago. Not a lot of cars on the road that look like it and it sure as hell gets a lot of attention in a sea of samey modern cars. I absolutely cannot get enough of it.

[@theophilusthistler5885]

Gimme the Camry any day, especially the 6 cylinder option. It might chug the petrol though it has great handling and you can treat it like shit and not worry about it being keyed or some shopoing bouncing off the doors. Camrys and Elantras... I'm tearing up.

[@henryespinosa9283]

Maybe modern cars wouldn’t be so boring if 75% of them weren’t painted with neutral colors like gray, silver, black, or white. Of the remaining non-neutral colors about equal numbers are either red or blue; very few greens, yellows, oranges, browns, etc. I remember when I was growing up in the 1950s and 1960s there were a great variety of colors and hues in cars, and two-tones as well with different colors of interior. In a lot of brand new cars you can choose any interior color as long as it’s black.

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

Yeah. Somebody showed a video of driving through Monte Carlo recently and the cars there were unimpressive. You'd expect better from a city that is supposed to bring in rich people.

[@GraveUypo]

to be honest i think it's even a safety feature to have bright colors on your cars. i honestly think black cars should be illegal. the only ever accident i caused (just a scrape) was because i looked at my right wing mirror and couldn't see a black car completely camouflaged by a tree's harsh black shadow, so i merged and we traded paint. luckly it was just a normal street and we were doing like 20 kph, so it paid them $200 to fix their car and that was it.

[@user-bv1gq8jj6b]

I like to refer to these modern econoboxes as "the crap that you pass by while speeding in the motorway"

[@polo86c4]

NPC cars

[@user-bv1gq8jj6b]

@@polo86c4 Exactly.

[@thetachyon456]

Except they aren't econoboxes, they are the McMansions of cars

[@user-bv1gq8jj6b]

@@thetachyon456 Yeah, they're stupidly overpriced most of the times refering to what they are.

[@CyAn-S]

I refer to older cars as "yet another cardboard box on wheels" or "yet another car with round headlights and chrome everywhere". Every decade had it's design trends that made cars VERY similar. In the 80's almost every car was a box on wheels for example. But today with all the different headlight shapes, use of creases and lines, LED technology applications and especially less restrictive designs because of EVs, it seems like cars have a lot more variety than before. You can't sell me that every car from the '80's and earlier was a beacon of innovative design either.

[@theequaliser8026]

I think you nailed it, I cannot stand SUV, s boxes on wheels great post as always

[@give_me_my_nick_back]

I dunno.. honestly in each era cars all looked similar, the difference is we are only remembering the most interesting ones and compare them with the current models.

[@bonjolor8298]

EXACTLY Though cars nowadays aren't as ugly as 80s or late 90s-early 00s cars, they still look pretty horrendous and I'm tored of seeing SUV's everywhere I go.

[@zf9903]

I'd disagree. While there have always been similar-looking models here and there, there are multiple facets in today's market that demands similarity in function, form, and aesthetic design. Regulatory restrictions are the primary drive behind these similarities. Emissions regulations dictates an aerodynamic shape to help increase economy, crash regulations dictate crumple zones and pillars thick enough to sustain a rollover as well as large enough to accommodate airbags. Beltlines have risen in similar adherence to crash standards, leaving vehicles with far less visibility than they used to have, and headlights and taillights can no longer be placed on surfaces that open or close, so they are always visible at any time - lighting is also required to be seen from the widest area possible so other motorists know when your blinkers or brake lights are on more easily. In addition, consumer tastes have shifted as inflation rises faster than stagnating wages can keep up - as such, less people own multiple vehicles tailored for one or two purposes each and are increasingly going for a single vehicle that can serve as many purposes as possible. Whether it's work, moving kids around, hauling furniture, carpooling, a crossover or SUV or even a truck to a certain extent can do all of these with significant ease. Since these types of vehicles can fill more roles, they have grown more popular and attractive to the average buyer. I mean, look at the sales figures of vehicle types that used to sell like hotcakes - convertibles are an incredibly niche market now, station wagons have grown a little taller, gained awd and are now called "crossovers", sedans simply aren't as an efficient use of space as any other model, and even hatchbacks are less common at least in the U.S.. Manual transmissions have gone the way of the dodo as well, because they're a needless complexity to most people whose singular goal for their car is to have it perform simple tasks for them as conveniently as possible. All of the things listed lead automakers to consolidate their design resources and cut costs as there's less possible deviation within a given market segment lest your razor thin profit margins turn into losses, and this means there's less of a difference between each given model. Each manufacturer has a "platform" they adapt into as many designs as possible to keep development costs low, "designers" have really turned into sketch artists that automated CAD takes the reins from to finish the actual product, and if the transformation from a concept car on the showroom floor to a production model in this decade tells you anything - innovation in this era is a really tough sell to buyers. No manufacturer worth their weight in salt would try to produce a design without showing it to countless focus groups, and if what they've sold to the public in the last 10 years is any evidence, those focus groups (who I'd hope represent the widest portion of the population possible) have visualized to the world through finished products what the general public's desires are. I always type a lot, sorry. What I'm trying to say is, no, older designs were by and large NOT as similar to one another as today's models are. To the average person whose only concern is "does it actually drive" and "will it hold people and/or cargo" then yes they were... But to anyone who actually EXAMINES a vehicle, then no they weren't. Today's cars are forced through a very demanding process of regulatory restriction followed by the tight-walleted buying tendencies of the average consumer and the end result is that most things look the same because experimentation is a dangerous thing to do when it comes to making profits and ending the day with a company that still exists.

[@rosestrohm7986]

THIS Why do people say all modern cars look the same when I cant tell the difference between a 60s dodge charger and a 60s camaro

[@joeypalmiero7576]

@@zf9903 bmc in the 60s literally just used exactly the same headlights between models, there was no variation there

[@joeidaho5938]

My opinion...once we left the 70s, car design went seriously downhill. Was around the time the K car and such came out...when vehicles became boxy and plastic and it was all about cost efficiency and maximizing profit. It's been downhill ever since then. Post 2005 is the worst period, though....where absolutely everything starts looking the same. The remakes of old muscle cars are just as bad...putting lipstick on a pig.

[@ewan_mclean]

I see so many crossovers and they’re all basically jelly bean-shaped sedans. At least we have some proper 4x4s around to break the mold

[@karoltakisobie6638]

I miss simple,analog hatchbacks of 1980s and 90s. Nearly all are gone and analog cars have been gone for 20 years. 2 door Civic was great.

[@devilsoffspring5519]

What do you mean "analog" cars? Cars have had electronic fuel injection since the 1980s. They were no more "analog" than they are today.

[@adelaide7822]

Honestly I have changed my mind about cars quite a bit, imo every car in existence has at least one thing to it that makes it interesting.

[@Aprill264]

I couldn't agree more, every car has some interesting hidden quirk or feature, but you need to look for them

[@JTA1961]

To the stockholders quarterly profit indicators

[@RaposaCadela]

How?

[@aristotelisentertainment279]

I couldn't agree more

[@motorpolitan8884]

I assure you there are absolutely no quirks about a 2020 Toyota Corolla.

[@markmalasics8413]

"Why are modern cars so BORING?!?" Because the people that make up today's society as so boring. If the shoe fits.....

[@qwertyki9367]

you too

[@hauweiguy9587]

Accurate.

[@manedwolfwithagmailaccount1478]

This entire comments section is just boomers shitting on new styling cause they're pissed about the fact that tech and tastes have advanced since the shitboxes they drove as kids lmao

[@TheCapitalWanderer]

@@manedwolfwithagmailaccount1478 so you prefer an SUV over an ae86, a mazda rx7 fd?

[@kaisersoymilk6912]

@@manedwolfwithagmailaccount1478 You're not completely wrong, but it's also true that the more the technology advances the less fun to drive cars are (after all, the end goal is the self driving car). And it's always been like that: 50s cars are more fun to drive than 80s ones but they're also way less safe, and you can say the same when comparing 90s cars to modern ones.

[@jreagins1]

I've been a car buff since I was a kid. When I was a kid in the '70s, I could tell you the exact make and model (and sometimes the model year) of a car at night based on the shape of the headlight or taillights. Now days, you usually have to read the badge on the car to tell them apart. Of course when I see the Tesla pickup, I think "boring isn't so bad".

[@agn855]

Welcome to the world of "Top Trumps" :o)

[@GraveUypo]

you can still do that and someone born in the 2000s will say the same about 70's cars. specially american ones. i was born in the 80's, but i'm not american, and to me all those muscle cars that look like this: ____/▒ ▒ ▒\____ (you know, big front overhang, boxy cabin in the middle, huge trunk with huge overhangs on the back) look the same to me

[@Jueen_]

I think because so many people stopped caring and think driving is a chore, so many people just wanna press a button and go and I just don’t get it

[@Smithy67]

I completely agree ... and people seem so afraid of colour, most cars are black, white, silver or grey. What has brought about this monochrome monotony?

[@FairladyS130]

Resale value.

[@TrimeshSZ]

Look on the bright side - I can remember back in the days of British Leyland, where you had a choice of about 15 colors and 12 of them were hideous. I especially liked "BL shit brown" - no, sorry, I think it was called something like "Bronze Yellow" - along with the 3 different blacks and the "blue" and "green" that might as well have been black.

[@dietznutz1]

@@TrimeshSZ true but almost everything bl made was utter shit

[@DanaTheInsane]

@@TrimeshSZ i’d still take shit brown over four shades of silver.

[@dbclass4075]

Price. White is the cheapest paint colour. Also, people are not in their best moods, and the colours reflect that.

[@HartyBiker]

This is why I love motorbikes. If a bike isn't interesting in some way it won't sell, meaning basically all bikes are really cool and unique.

[@admiralrng6506]

That's why I moved to bikes as well, not to mention that an average low cc motorbike would beat an entry level sportscar almost all the time

[@HartyBiker]

@@admiralrng6506 dude my MT09 which I bought for 8500 AUD does 0-100km/h in under 3 seconds (2.6 I think). That's supercar launch for under 10k hahaha

[@admiralrng6506]

@@HartyBiker god daaaamn you got great taste, I love dem triples as well

[@soulstalker4624]

Remember how the Escape used to look like an off road vehicle for going to the forest or mud roads and not a dumbshit car that Karen uses for her kids and McDonalds travel? Yeah, so many cars being butchered, and now the Mustang plate is suffering that too, the Mach E is beyond horrendous

[@honkhonk8009]

Yep. Had the potential to be an actual tesla contender. But nah.

[@sehhmie5483]

They still made v8 stang, cope

[@dmglolmasterplays3353]

Ngl when they announced the MUSTANG mach-e i was super excited i was hoping for a super cool all electric mustang gt, not a suv

[@reesecup3ify]

Took the words right outta my mouth. The new Chevy Blazer looks like it's been castrated compared to what it looked like in '71. And I can't believe idiots are commenting that we are a bunch of butt-hurt boomers for caring about this. I happen to be a female millennial. I simply appreciate beauty, class, and art. Sadly, I believe modern cars and architecture are a representation of the soulless dystopia society is turning into.

[@soulstalker4624]

@@reesecup3ify I ain't even that old, literally just turned 20. And I still appreciate how these cars and SUVs used to look. Before, SUVs where actual Sport and Utility vehicles, now. They are just soccermom cars.

[@RobertWilliams-ur5gi]

I have gone back to the future over the last few years. Like lots of my friends, I have gone for a low mileage older car. I currently have a 1997 Alfa Romeo 164 Super.

[@julianlangdon3456]

Me similarly, Pug 405 Estate. Roomy, simple and economical. Alfa 164 in current Practical Classics

[@guardraillover5044]

81' Toyota Corona lol

[@ecksdee3145]

'74 Leyland Mini for me, we joke about it being unreliable because of the BL badge on the front but its been one of the more reliable cars in my friend group, when something does go wrong though its always off the road for the longest

[@RobertWilliams-ur5gi]

They also joke about Alfas! I have found them reliable. No rust problems now.

[@xx-----------xx873]

I've also done this with a Triumph Spitfire, but I swapped a Fiat 500 Abarth engine into it, and welded in some steel bars for safely. It's not going to break down, and anything which has rusted has been replaced with a carbon fibre part. I also have a Jaguar XJ220, but I can't exactly call that a sensible purchase.

[@cricticalthinking]

Spot on and depressing all at once!

[@blu-drag0n]

Not just middle aged man find todays cars boring, I am 29 and think the same. Couple that with ridiculous prices and you understand why so many folks in my generation don't prioritize buying a brand new car

[@HRMusic35]

Futuristic designes are really crap. These thin long led lights, huge grills, idiotic fake exhausts, fake vent and lips, and other ugly touches. Imagine they are putting a freaking 4 fake exhausts to 2.4 liter SUV. Even 2014 5.7 lexus has one, bruh. For me golden design era is between 1987-2004

[@billolsen4360]

Yes, and even the revving noises are fake, they come out of the stereo

[@automation7295]

If you don't like it, why don't go and murder everyone at the manufacturers. I bet you when murder people people for owning cars you dislike. How would you feel if some start wishing death on you for hating their cars?

[@LiiMuRi]

One more reason why I like the trend of electrification. It gives a chance to new designs and also new smaller companies to try new things

[@Zenan466]

absolutely

[@bobobo4527]

Keep on dreaming💤

[@mrlookagain1142]

Um no.

[@MrOiram46]

electric cars have to fall into an even narrower design parameter b/c of aerodynamics, I don’t think we’ll see a squarebody ev anytime soon unless it’s a custom squarebody converted into an ev

[@rylans.5365]

@@MrOiram46it’s just design language more than an actual requirement. Have you seen the Soul EV, EV9?

[@Brera011]

The doorhandles for the rear doors of the Alfa 156 (designed by Walther DeSilva) were unique and innovative when released. Those doorhandles, often immitated or copied, made a 4 door saloon or hatchbak look like a 2 door (coupe). Alfa Romeo was one of the few brands with a face of its own.

[@DashCamSerbia]

@k halliday Better then been seen in a generic Golf.

[@TurboFlash-zj9ku]

Boi, sure cars have deceased a lot in the past years. We want cheap sports cars with good powerful engines instead of a one million button console. SUVs with boring engines and screens all over your face in the interior are just lame. I prefer to spend more money for a better powerful engine instead of a boring econobox engine and a china made screen in the dashboard xD

[@Fred_the_1996]

Ikr, sports cars nowadays are way too heavy and refined, take the Porsche 911 for example, it weighs a ton and a half and the interior is more refined than any other car I can think of! We want a barebones, light, well-performing car like the old Ferraris or Alfa Romeos (F40 type cars), not these cars that are made for old men to show off

[@georgeb5262]

The reason why SUVs are more is simple people stop to care about cars. Roads' traffic is too much and eco and safety regulations make the possession of sport car too hard. So many people give up, so automakers.

[@letsgoblue9596]

There is one thing I like partially though. High end Sports and Luxury cars like Aston Martin, Porsche (higher end Porsches), and Alfa Romeo have taken to really good designs. Granted they aren’t as eye catching as what they used to be in their time, but they are still good nonetheless.

[@RennieAsh]

@@georgeb5262 this is the thing. Everything is geared to wards "safety", reducing speed limits, more and more rules, more cars, more houses. They seem to want to remove driving in some sense and just have you use some common transport

[@R1DER420]

I agree with you

[@brockbaby]

When thinking modern vs old time. Old times = 60's and back.

[@zf9903]

I'd disagree honestly. Until the early/mid 80's, computer-assisted design was basically unheard of and many of the same practices used in the 60's and 70's found significant purchase. Many American offerings during this period still had roots tracing back into the 70's, such as AMC's Eagle. Things were beginning to shift but many of the same predispositions about car buying remained until the introduction of Chrysler's Dodge Caravan and Plymouth Voyager in 1983. Many people also cite the introduction of the "crossover" concept as being a major turning point - while this is true, the crossover craze began as a very slow-burning affair with the lukewarm reception the AMC Eagle was given upon its introduction in 1980. (The Eagle, I'd posit, is the first crossover introduced in America to be tailored specifically for the American market's taste without intending to be sold outside North America. Therefore, it has my vote for being the "first crossover" when it comes to the U.S. market) The minivan craze got swept in with the crossover craze and combined with the CAD and safety crazes that took hold in the mid-late 80's, the eventual result is the bloated overcomplicated origami-mobiles meandering around roads today. To recap, the early 80's are probably still "old times" because technology only started playing a significant enough role to be mentioned in the mid 80's. Before the mid-80's you can CLEARLY still see a LOT of older styling, building and structural design techniques, and performance characteristics that were present in earlier decades.

[@zhakarius2853]

Im 15 and im just the same new cars are so bland

[@the_kombinator]

I pretty much felt the same when I was 15 - which was well over 15 years ago!

[@RaposaCadela]

Hell yeah, dude. Everything is the definition of bland nowadays.

[@Luceked]

I 15 too and I agree.

[@Jeyeyeyey]

2x year old here, everything has been going down the shitter since 2012/2013 - cars, movies, music and games

[@i_observe9846]

@@Jeyeyeyey lol

[@swingingdodgy]

I would like a car that I can work on myself , one with mechanical window winders, where I can lift the bonnet and can see around the engine, where I can buy a Haynes manual, try that with a modern car.

[@frglee]

Mm. As anyone with an old car with automatic windows will tell you, they get unreliable, they jam or do nasty tricks like lowering themselves at night in the pouring rain, and can cost a lot to fix. I actually fantasize about retrofitting manual windows in my car.

[@hunchanchoc8418]

@340bärgarN Hear hear! Modern cars are designed to last until the 3-year lease period is up (and the warranty), and the lessee then starts again with another new car. This allows the manufacturers to keep churning them out. The first car goes into the used car market, with an expired warranty, so the manufacturers can make further money fixing all the faults that then arise for the hapless used-car-owner.

[@-DC-]

Got a 13 1.4 i vtec Civic straight forward to service at home, brake's simple to change, no timing belt to swap, bought at half list price at 3 years old it's been a superb buy so far.

[@bangerbangerbro]

@@frglee I used to like automatic windows when I was six and winding up manual windows was too hard, but now you have to have the keys in the car to wind down the windows and sometimes they stop working. And that is for not much of any real advantages.

[@andyfield7397]

definitely a post covid market for a simple car with simple maintence. High safety low tech.

[@babybrained2429]

“coz im a tech geek who wants the latest gadgets”, and THAT right there my fine feathered friends is the real problem why cars are all shit today.

[@SVW1976]

I bought a Kia Forte GT. Not boring at all. Cheap, fun, well equipped, and did I mention fun!

[@sehhmie5483]

Yeah people who doesnt drive any cars in the comment section is just assume New cars=boring when literally theres many actual fun cars

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

I like that new jimny. Nice and spartan, looks good, and doesn't break the bank.

[@richardhammer187]

The Jeep Renegade's quite nice too, if only it was as tough as the Jeep badge implies, basically being a rebadged Fiat crossover (Fiat 500X).

[@pioneerz450]

Too bad you like the jimny, EU emissions legislation has now killed it off. You may be able to get it as a panelvan. (less strict emissioms)

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

@@pioneerz450 i rather have clean air then jimneys. So it is fine by me.

[@dbk_kvd]

I like it because they designed it like the original samurai unlike other brands that make their new gen cars too curvy

[@jannevaatainen]

To be fair, cars have always "looked the same", and there have always been exceptions. To me, the most beautiful cars were made in the 60's, 70's and 80's. 90's was a decade of total blandness, and now we have slowly moved to these over the top trying to be sporty and angry designs with fake everything. Why does your grandmothers shopping cart (Nissan Micra for example) need to look sporty and angry? Why we need fake exhaust in VW Golf, and even fake exhaust sounds in some cars!?

[@dcarbs2979]

Blame the introduction of CAD in 1982! Everything was hand-designed before then.

[@nicholasapodoattyang4035]

Hybrid technology in automotive engineering is the mentality.Android, Microsoft . I don't want them in my car. Motorcycle chain in our engines as well and poor engine ventilation. Such deathtraps for roadsters! !!

[@tramlink8544]

90s blandness? look up Toyota MR2 poor mans ferrari :D

[@dcarbs2979]

@@tramlink8544 Case in point. If you've already had the real thing! Although stick a Camry engine in it and it could get interesting if it's pre-92.

[@LucasFernandez-fk8se]

The 70s and 80s were horrible decades where all the houses cars and people were ugly as hell. The 90s cars were much better. They weren’t great but it’s better then Box after Box on wheels

[@pieterv6984]

Thank you for answering the question so extensively. You really looked at it from all angles. Very satisfying.

[@helder6175]

Short answer: People are generally boring anymore yet are willing to overpay for things because something's brand new and/or has the latest gadgets. Quality and longevity are no longer relevant in this disposable, modern-day society, unfortunately.

[@zf9903]

Yup. Such a large portion of the world has normalized the idea of throwing away belongings that could otherwise be repaired and brought back into service and it's pretty sickening. I can guarantee that many of the people who today couldn't give a toss about junking their car will look back in 20 or 30 years and deeply regret their choices given what options are available to them in that day and age

[@Random-nf7qb]

I like the Princess' front, the Z3 Coupe, that Corolla(the hatchback version too) and the Croma's styling. Some people think they are boring, I think they are simple (in a good way) I like straight lines.

[@duallyentertainment3005]

Now if only land yacht sedans and coupes were still made...

[@davidpistek6241]

The last one's were the crown victoria and the caprice impala, I drive a full size SUV for that reason 07 sequoia, on paper it's just a tall caprice, but a 90 Fleetwood or box Chevy is really where it's at

[@branon6565]

David Pistek ....no, just no, on any chevy being "where it's at", as every single Garbage Motors manufactured vehicle since day 1 has been absolute junk....

[@branon6565]

Dually Entertainment ...it'd definitely be nice if Ford brought back the LTD Crown Victoria, especially if they offered it with a coyote 5.0 or 7.3 Godzilla V8, and posi rearend ...maybe even all wheel drive....

[@howardkerr8174]

@@branon6565 I just traded my 09 Crown Victoria for a 13 Fusion S (base model). I miss the roominess of the Vic, being an ex-police car there was no intrusive center console and the back seat area was huge, as was the trunk. The Fusion (supposedly) has more driver legroom, though I am not sure if it is really the case. The headrests are huge on the Fusion, as are the roof pillars, creating large blind spots. The trunk is middling in size, tho unlike the Vic, the rear seats fold. Unfortunately, the trunk opening does not allow large and bulky items to be put in the trunk. The climate controls of the Fusion were designed to be stylish, and are not as simple/intuitive as the those of the Crown Victoria. All that said, I like the more sensible size, it fits into more parking spaces, and obviously the fuel economy is better from the 2.5 liter engine than the Crown Victoria's 4.6 liter. Probably the best of both worlds is my other car, an 06 Mustang.

[@jamesmedina2062]

@@branon6565 too much generalizing. GM is huge and make every size and type of car worldwide

[@KiltedGreen]

The shapes are so similar, but the things that gets me down is the colour. In the 70s particularly we had dark red, dark green, sky blue, lemon yellow, orange, metallic green, bronze and loads more. These weren’t unusual, but a general mix across most cars you’d see around. These days the average car is depressingly drab - red, black, white and grey/silver seem to cover 90% of today’s cars. Even worse are some that seem to be mega-dreary military battleship grey, I mean … what?!

[@TheBigdog868]

Your comment is way underrated. I remember when you could order a car in literally any color you wanted. Just send in a swatch and it would be custom made for you.

[@DavidUKesb]

People complain they 'have no money' and yet the roads are full of ridiculously oversized people carriers.

[@jgr7487]

Citroen, Peugeot & Alfa-Romeo still have great designs, some weird, but great.

[@stevenjoy3537]

Precisely. Same old adage Want style, has to be French or Italian

[@Alcofoamer]

The lack of French cars here in America really disappoints me. I'm excited that PSA is planning on a comeback which will probably be sped up following the merger with FIAT-Chrysler. Whoever said all cars look the same has never seen a Citroen.

[@YegoYTP]

The New 508 is absolutely gorgeous.

[@Tcheverlika]

Peugeot is back to making good designs, but Citroen own interpretation of originality is trying to give an edgy twist to current established design trend, the result is often horrific, look at the C4 Cactus.

[@piotrmalewski8178]

It's after Fiat almost killed Alfa by maiking it technicially unified with Fiat. After the 75 which was technically an advanced Gran Turismo car in a saloon bodyshell, they've drowned the company with cars like 146, 147, 156, which were technically not different from Fiats and Lancias and even GTA versions didn't even have a limited slip diff, not even as an option. So they started changing something with 159, GT and Giulietta, adding Q2 and Q4 options gave Giulia rear wheel drive as standard now, and several versions also have LSD. The very same they've drowned Lancia, which made extremely succesful sports cars in the past like Fulfia, Stratos, Beta Monte Carlo/037, Delta S4 and Delta Integrale. Instead of letting them go with what's made them famous and iconic, they said: "No more sports cars Lancia, now you're making luxury limos out of Fiat components"- Here you go, they've destroyed Lancia completely.

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

It's just ridiculous that my base model Peugeot from the 80s has a nicer feeling interior and more comfortable ride than a mid-range modern sedan. Also I don't feel safe in modern cars, the exact opposite. If I can't see around me because of these thick A pillars and nearly non-existent rear windows no stupid amount of air bags is going to make me feel safe.

[@doncorleon9]

Your have a point. The idea of safety we have is being boxed in a 'cave'. That is an inherited feeling from the caveman days. But modern safety design for the vehicles gets trickier because more visibility increases safety which is counter intuitive to your perception. Rigid construction transfers more of the forces in a crash to you. This lets the car 'survive the crash but at the expense of your probabioity of survival. That is why cars design other safety features try to increase safety using active safety features and cleverly hidden crumple zones to tick the design and safety requirements. So we not have active safety systems, brake assist, distribution, traction control, abs, air bags, lane assist, side impact pritectiin etc. The modern vehicle is designed to sacrifice itself so you walk away from a crash. From alll these growing requirements, it's no wonder that newer generational models of the same car are growing bigger and heavier despite having better materials to work with. This is because of increased safety gear. It is quite frankly amazing that car companies still make any money nowadays.

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

@@doncorleon9 I passed high school physics, don't worry, which makes me wonder even more why I can see more out of a tank than a modern car. And most older cars are still safe enough in my opinion because 1.) If you're driving one you are well-aware that you're at more risk in a crash, so you'll be far more perceptive than others on the road, and 2.) Even if you do crash, it's probably going to be at like 15-30 km/h, and even cars from 50s can save you then. I doubt you'll spontaneously roll over on the freeway.

[@doncorleon9]

@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge Am with you on that. My list of dream cars sit between 85 and 95. Only mordernity I ask for is electric windows. Mirrors would be a plus but not a requirement.

[@jimbobjimbob8275]

My friend has a late model Mercedes SUV, yet she still thinks my 1995 chrysler new yorker is more comfortable and has a better ride. Lol

[@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge]

@@doncorleon9 I hate electric windows with a passion. No idea why you people like them. Is it really that hard rolling down a winder? Besides I never had issues with manual windows, unlike everyone else I know who has electric ones and had to constantly replace either the motors, switches or wires in the damn things. Power mirrors make even less sense to me.

[@letsgoblue9596]

My father drove a 70’s Mercedes (we lived in Germany, and it was reasonably priced for the 90’s) the thing sounded and looked amazing. I met a guy with the same car, but modern equivalent, and it was just, quiet. It didn’t have that roar of the engine when you revel it and it was missing that “Mercedes” look. I could think of a few other fat, but this came to mind first.

[@wetdroidedition2549]

I remember when you tell me in a comment about making this video. It is great. Thanks! Good analysis.

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

I'm not sure how anyone can call current Mazda interiors "less than inspiring" 😅

[@rob5944]

Especially the 6, fantastic looking car!

[@bencebekefi7032]

They are utterly boring in my opinion

[@onelyone6976]

Luke Rinderknecht I’ll citate one random commenter on youtube ”Mazda is the BMW of japanese carmakers”

[@C.I...]

The 2 interior is great precisely because it looks basically the same as a sports car.

[@sannyfolkesson2226]

boring often comes due to see it far to often in other models

[@willswheels283]

There’s very few modern cars that take my interest, with the exception of the little Fiat 500 Abarth. The thing that does annoy I find when I’ve hired something modern for the day is as soon as you turn the key you get blown away by the force 9 Gale of air conditioning plus get my ears deafened by the surround sound audio system with the latest Crap music station that I didn’t turn on. If you asked a car salesman in his stuffed or sprayed on shirt(a k a Vauxhall or Stoneacre dealer) if the car is easy to service, they come out with the usual “We recommend you have your car services by your nearest dealer sir”.

[@bearchow1929]

Awesome video, awesome title, so right on the mark. In our modern world, cars, like music, and all the allegedly awesome high tech things we have, or any engineering, or any art, are lacking in one thing that is gone forever: soul.

[@bryanramey2438]

I dont know, as a dad, I thought about getting a 2022 VW GTI manual just to get my sports car fix. I feel like these are the last days to walk into a dealership and pick up a manual sports car.

[@seahawker7796]

I used to be able to tell exactly what type of car was behind me while driving in the middle of the night! Its impossible to do today!

[@Jeff-bd5yo]

When was that?

[@theodor12]

I agree with everything in this video, apart from when you said that the Z3 coupe was ugly. I think it looks amazing.

[@BigCar2]

As I say in the video - everyone has a personal choice. And the more things we find beautiful in the world, the more enjoyment we have from it, so that's great!

[@Vemppu_Lutku]

Yeah some People absolutely love it, i find it disqusting. But i would still drive it :D

[@vulekv93]

@@BigCar2 I think it's bland and generic vs bold and interesting. BMW Z3 Coupe might be a bit extreme in it's design, but it's complete opposite of the bland and boring. Fiat Multipla is straight up ugly, but again, it's anything but generic. You kinda convoluted the comparison by adding interesting car in that "failure" side. You should have included more of the American bland boxes on wheels from the 80s.

[@shaunw9270]

@@vulekv93 I'm English and sorry if this sounds perverse(!) ,but there's something about those , what you call American bland boxes of the 80's , that I actually quite like !

[@mattyxd20.68]

theo sincu beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If u like it mate u enjoy it ;)

[@Icecube095]

"The 7th generation Golf..." Proceeds to show a 6th generation Golf :D

[@drbadzer]

Amazing video. I applaud your brilliance sir. This is a must see for every car enthusiast.

[@rob5944]

Never thought of the Princess as a bad looking car myself.

[@marcushull12]

and you could get a cello in the boot lol strange fact to know , i know but my mechanics sister played one so his dad bought a Princess as it fit in the boot lol

[@phil955i]

Or the Allegro, it stood out in design IMO. Trouble is it was just a shit car under BL's tenure

[@roldoxc2094]

I agree. Thought they looked quite elegant.

[@julosx]

@@roldoxc2094 At least better than, say, a Morris Marina. It's incredible the "same" (BMC) company could put on the market cars that opposite from each other as the Princess and the Marina.

[@DutchPlanDerLinde]

Bring baaack the sedans \(O_O)/

[@rich7447]

They don't sell well here in the US.

[@kazashi4863]

Sedans are going extinct 😭 sedan models are getting discontinued every year it makes me sad 😟

[@kaisersoymilk6912]

@@rich7447 I thought the US was the last remaining market for sedans, if they don't sell there it's over.

[@rich7447]

@@kaisersoymilk6912 Ford announced a while ago that they are out of the sedan market in the US. The car market in the US is down to 22% of all new (4 wheeled) vehicle sales and the overwhelming majority of those are German, Japanese or Korean. The other 78% is vans, SUV/CUVs and pickups. The European vehicles that we do get in the US depreciate like crazy compared to Korean or Japanese models.

[@dr.science_0177]

Buy them. Don't just say it

[@arisaga822]

I drive around my town in a beautiful Alfa. I consider it a public service.

[@zf9903]

You are a hero. Thank you for your service sir. I only hope that children see your car and develop a love for the artwork vehicles used to be. We really need a new generation of caretakers, because nobody lives forever.

[@BigBossIvan]

As a guy newly arriving into the middle aged scene, this video has fully depressed me, well done. I’ve been looking for a daily driver for years now to ease up on my truck (so no rush), and everything I’ve found is yawn inducing trash. I never imagined I’d miss my old cars so much…

[@aakeister]

One of the big killers (no pun intended) for individual design was the pedestrian impact protection, especially the head protection when it hits the bonnet. Add to that side impact protection and you have fatter bigger bland cars

[@breddary]

Yup!!

[@HemiChrysler]

12:45 - Hey, hey, hey, the Princess, provided equipped with the twin headlights, is on my hit list ! Design classic !

[@DJThor1964]

Besides, didn't it win the Top Gear BL challenge?

[@Zero_Ninety]

This is why you shouldn't do drugs kids.

[@LawrenceTimme]

4:00 They dont make the cars safer. They are simply better at passing safety tests. Two completely different things. Old cars you can see all around you fine, but if you crash, you get crushed. In a modern car you cant see anything out the letterbox windows past the giant screens, so you're more likely to crash, but at least you won't get crushed. Then because you can't see anything they have to put all the stupid flashing lights and beeps for cars in areas you can't see and auto braking. Its pretty dumb when you could just make the windows bigger. All the cars would be much cheaper then.

[@danielbociarski6633]

This is why my parents bought an Alfa Giulia. Beautiful, fun and has enough room in the boot for the weekly shop. Even though its the cheapest model and we negotiated 10k Aud off the price its fantastic and we get a lot of complements on it. Fantastic and has actually been perfectly reliable over the past 8 months from when we bought it.

[@nightraven2975]

The alfa giulia is a real beauty.

[@imwayne6543]

And this is why im quite happy with my 94/95 ford thunderbird, 91 mustang 4cyl convertible and my 80 spitfire...

[@pedroteixeira4369]

You have a golden voice! Perfect tone! Subbed. Please consider writing about the Alfa 159. Cheers!

[@Roddy_Zeh]

Sometimes I think car makers will disappear or radically change in the next 50 years to the point their products will be pretty much mobile household appliances that we just lease or maybe even own, but don't drive it (that being the role of advanced AI)... I always remember that old anime from years ago, éX-Driver.

[@bh2155]

You have a really nice way of talking and delivering your presentation. This is.an excellent well research and organized video.