Why Are More Games Being Released In An Unfinished State?

[@PaleGhost69]

Remember when companies would pay a person to beta test games as a job? Now its the customer paying the company to have that honour.

[@dafff08]

and the game might never gets finished if the sales turn out to not be as good as they expected.

[@iliketurtles8918]

Honestly, with how detailed and good some games are, I really don't mind that system. Don't crucify me, but to get an earlier release on something like GTA6, I would pay $60 and wait for update patches. Games haven't increased in price that much for the amount that we can get out of them. I remember as a kid going to buy Mario RPG on SNES at Toys R Us and turning right back around without it because it was like $40. Possibly $50. 10/20 bucks more for the kind of things coming out as of late, is fair in my opinion.

[@Trisoz]

Or when they used to release demos but they realized sales were lower with demos. And now they just use hype to sell pre orders

[@deadphenome2548]

I mean when they pay someone, that person is obliged to make a report on the report he sees as opposed to you that buy an early access game where you don't need to do this. Also when they hire testers it's because they want to test the game without the public knowing the existence of the game.

[@yskuzi]

PaleGhost69 still do that have been for years time lines get shorter but still happens

[@AJKungFuu]

I dont think I've bought a full priced 60$ game in like legitimately 6 or 7 years. I always just wait till they go down to 30 dollars or lower.

[@AJKungFuu]

@TheUnDrunkPCBastard _ Nah. I find that incredibly immoral so I'll pass on that.

[@AriettaTheWild17]

AAA game? Wait for a sale. It’s a good strategy actually, by then you have the patch(es).

[@madeinuk68]

@TheUnDrunkPCBastard _ if we all did that,there wouldn't be a game or film industry. Also are you aware that it is also a pretty serious crime to buy and encourage piracy. You should be very careful about bragging about it online,you never know who might be reading your comments. Piracy also funds a lot of organised crime gangs,and it might one day come back to bite you in the ass.

[@alexkatsin4940]

Same here

[@nozenkyuzero]

@TheUnDrunkPCBastard _ yeah but its better to have a clean conscience to wait for it to sale, also it improves your patience which you need in your life

[@InvestingHustler]

Because companies can release them and make money on them quicker , since they’re incomplete they can charge us more for the full game and give it a fancy name like DLC 🤦🏽‍♂️🤔

[@coraldiamond1922]

INVESTING HUSTLER - Stocks Money Entertainment or micro transactions like EA does.

[@Scareth]

Coraldiamond 192 why do people complain to EA about it, and not fortnite or csgo. It's all cosmetics, yet people tend to blame the less popular games

[@famoussession7426]

Lúcio Cause in Fortnite you can just purchase straight up and Csgo has trading

[@BluePalmetto]

Sounds like a conspiracy theory. Missing out on some of these things are not going to ruin the complete experience and I'd rather someone else throw down another $40 if that means I don't have to pay $100 for a game full of things I don't need.

[@thicccereal9659]

It's like filling in the air of a bag of chips haha "sorry player if you would like the full bag, purchase the full chip bag dlc"

[@davecarsley8773]

Here's the thing- The fact that companies like Naughty Dog and Nintendo still exist blows all these excuses right out of the water. They clearly demonstrate that it *is* possible to finish games and have them working near perfectly and with all their content (minus large expansions of course) before release. These companies show that not only is this possible to _accomplish_, but it's possible to accomplish while still making BOATLOADS of money. There's one reason and one reason ONLY that games are released unfinished, broken and buggy- *because we allow it* ; because we'll buy them. And the developers (and platform holders) know it. If tomorrow, Sony said to all developers, _"we're implementing a system like Nintendo's gold seal. If your game is unfinished or full of bugs, _*_it will not be released on our platform. Period_*_ "_ , guess what... you'd still have games like No Man's Sky, Witcher 3, and Assassins Creed. They'd take a little bit longer, and they'd be finished and perfectly playable upon release. The current environment only exists because we allow it to, and human nature is that anything people _can_ get away with, they will.

[@ClintonJRTR]

Agreed

[@carlosdasilva2409]

Basically the premise of let your money talk. This is the reason why I prefer Nintendo, they understand how important is quality and the first impression. Please understand that I am not a Nintendo fanboy, I just prefer them as a brand for their tendency on releasing full games and having a greater quality. If we complain about lootboxes and microtransactions but we gladly buy said company's game we are telling them "Oh, I am a masochist customer that will always come back for more." Now, if you pass and don't buy the game then the company will somehow see it. Just a customer won't do anything. But imagine a whole lot of people did this practice. As you said, we would still have games like The Witcher 3, No man's Sky, Assassin's Creed, Falloit New Vegas, etc. BUT they would be complete. Sure you may add DLC's to add content you didn't think of before. Sans' skin on the new super smash or certain expansions that adds more into the lore of the game. But that would be things a developer wasn't thinking before. You are right, we as consumers allow it by giving them money when we KNOW the game is incomplete.

[@GlobalOutcast]

I agree with you, but as somone who preordered and got no mans sky on release, the game was a buggy mess and didnt have 75% of what was promised

[@diegov1743]

Lmao Nintendo in the late Wii U era put out a lot of unfinished shit like the failed Mario Partys, Mario Tennis, AC Amiibo Festival. Even these days they also pump out lazy full priced ports...

[@ProtossExecutor100]

Is it possible? Sure. Is it possible without forcing your developers to crunch and work 60 hour weeks? You'd have to wait much longer

[@user-ol2mr4bx7c]

this topic is more relevant now than ever lol

[@tranquility2331]

man, after the release of the gta trilogy and vanguard, i came looking for this video

[@wiseguyeclipsa7591]

@@tranquility2331 Gta trilogy is probably one of the games that are more unfinished

[@rengoku2195]

Watching this after seeing Battlefield 2042.

[@rvymvn]

Eventually they will just release the source code and you'll have to compile it yourself

[@funnyhaha1233]

Javi D it will it will make mouny.

[@funnyhaha1233]

Javi D but only for a few days

[@Fx_Explains]

can't wait for that to happen

[@utisti4976]

Ikr

[@falloutstarcraft2]

That actually could mean a lot of options for modders potentially. But would be awful for regular players who only want plug and play.

[@no_4259]

Cause people pay for unfinished games, no need to finish them 😑

[@HarryPotter-qj4np]

Sergio González Torres "Pre-Order "

[@leounknown7316]

Agreed and once they get paid the either move on to something else ,stop or do less frequent updates, or in rare cases actullay finish the game but by then mostly everyone has moved on

[@scab3045]

Sergio González Torres that's true. Just look at Day Z. 5 years in ALPHA. Not even Beta...

[@dropkickpherby6994]

Bingo

[@bradhaines3142]

i wish you were wrong. on the bright side at least half the games ive bought are game of the year editions so those are complete games, takes a year or 2 of painful waiting to get those though

[@ISoloYouRelax]

The gaming community needs to refuse to buy unfinished games. Like seriously, if you went to the dentist for them to fix something and they only did half the work I don't think you're gonna pay them for it.

[@SK-jr8wi]

Let's make a union

[@SK-jr8wi]

@@bilbobaggins9451 you have successfully changed my mind

[@madeinuk68]

I work hard for the money I earn. So I no longer buy new games. I haven't bought a new game in over 10 years. They are a total rip off. And as for buying digital games,I would only ever buy one that is never destined to be a physical game also,and only if it is less than £15. I never play online either,so most modern games are made to be played online for the best experience. It saddens me after playing games for over 40 years,that greed is killing the whole genre.

[@dylanmcshane9976]

I crack games till they are stable. When they are stable, their prices are normally lower and the game is finished. Its a win win for me aside from the online ones. FUCK companies releasing unfinished games. Its literally saying pay full price for half the product. Its legal robbery and they can suck my ass.

[@jaredmodisette6438]

Hmm, so you’ve never played and don’t plan to play god of war, grand theft auto V, or even Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild?

[@b3h8t1n]

@@jaredmodisette6438 when they go on sale or in the used bin 😂

[@dnmoscato92]

I agree it makes me sad that majority of games are online multilayer based :( freaking sucks

[@jbprasad4477]

@@jaredmodisette6438 😂👍

[@gutt315]

Simple answear, Stop pre order games! Wait a mouth or two after it's realised, read reviews from other gamers/ consumers not game developers! If every gamer simple do this broken games realised will end!

[@AS-cs9gi]

also be careful of games that have announced updates to come before release. that can be a sign that the game is incomplete. do not buy it just cause it'll be updated. animal crossing new horizons announced updates but released unfinished. The updates contained holiday events which should be expected in every ac game anyway. They have failed to complete the game after a year of updates. The updates barely have content in them especially of late. The game is a downgrade in many aspects.

[@orbitelphoenix]

I definitely much rather have a delay game, then a bad or unfinished one.

[@zeus-po8ii]

Yeah I'm with you on that.

[@illidin23]

Agreed

[@GcorpCoPrez]

Same. FFXV was one game i got a season pass for the 1st time. I should’ve waited a while for the royal complete edition. Usually i get games yrs after they release because of all this dlc crud. Saves money but you wait longer to play. KH3 you better deliver!

[@matrixfull]

Yeah same. I watched video Andrei but that doesn't mean that my point of view is worth less than companies one. It takes two to tango.

[@Helterskelta]

Oh the power a single letter has

[@jomnch]

*GREED INTENSIFIES*

[@untamedpandasweg8986]

Corporatism requires greed, but people that want to take from them because they have a lot exhibit the antithesis of morality. Socialists are consumed with Greed AND Envy. They struck "The Patriarchy" = Merit based hierarchies in Western nations, not Islamic with Ghostbusters, 3 Star Wars movies, much TV News indoctrination, and oppression narrative lies. Like the reasons for the Wage Gap, 3/5 Women in America being Raped in their lives, 21 Million Women being abused online. All Lies. They're trying to subvert the Culture to benefit them, not obtain equality. To control the way everyone thinks. By banning words, replacing them with New-Speak- like how they say Diversity instead of the truth of Black and Brown people. Side note: How is the term African-American not a bit racist and very divisive? Humans used to live in a Communist/Socialist like state before we understood economic systems like we do today. Progressives say that such economic policies are the future when in fact Capitalism came after Socialism. People need linear motivations to work their hardest. Paying everyone the same gives people no incentive to work as hard as they can, which will be more or less productive than other people naturally. It's social engineering and inhumane to penalize people based on arbitrary feelings of fairness instead of giving them what they have legally earned through free market contracts and voluntary transactions. Principles over feels, bruh. Let's get scientific. Women produce and release testosterone from their adrenal glands to their brains when needing to focus on high cognitive tasks such as fast paced/competitive gaming. After days of being in situations of high stress Women may break down because they can't keep producing testosterone to focus. They start producing adrenaline and will eventually fall apart mentally if they do not leave that stressful environment. Men naturally have an advantage over Women in prolonged settings of stressful situations because off this. Among other things. Like Men having generally 10% larger brains than Women, across all races. Obama had the same exact policies when in office. The Media did nothing. Trump ended the family separation with an executive order temporarily like he's supposed to. The President is not supposed to make laws with executive orders. He did exactly what he's supposed to legally. Those laws were passed by Democrats, not Republicans. We had those laws because we can't instantly confirm whether these children are being trafficked by the adult they are with. Do you really think it's better for children to be imprisoned with possibly dangerous adult criminals? Or with just other kids for a short time? We didn't force them into this situation. It's these peoples responsibility to make their country great, not rely on White people while saying Mexico and Latinos are the best. There were many "La Raza" or "The Race" believing people that were in the Migrant Caravan that headed for the US border months ago causing these problems. American Men have to sign up for the Draft to Vote. That's not Equality. We've never Legally had Gender Equality in America. But because it disadvantages Men and benefits Whamen, they keep quiet about it, and even lie about it, about their vision of Equality. Wage Gap lies. Because Feminism isn't about Equality. Now, instead of projecting and continuing the cycle of hate that's enveloped Western Cultures, form an argument. Read my Copy/Paste in a reply to a comment on my funny video. ;)

[@DeerestAshe]

That quote from Miyamoto is the reason I never complain about delays

[@iceviking8280]

When can we get this game out? What do we have to sacrifice? “Not much will be sacrificed, the gamers won’t care either way. Just some of the dialogue throughout the game including characters background stories along with level up system we promised and half a dozen different weapon variants and also about 6 or 7 different vehicles both land and sky and don’t forget about the save status, gamers will only be able to save in about half the areas as we planned them to be able to and forget about the checkpoint autosaves that’s not going to happen and we’ll have to wait on the targeting systems for the heavy weapons and the characters facial expressions haven’t been adjusted properly yet, and sometimes when players are crouched on certain walls they get stuck. but don’t worry the gamers won’t care.” Sounds good! Send it out.

[@thebombspayloadisexposed]

You are a great person

[@ethancodes7134]

Great video, you touched on some really solid points and I think you explained it very well. I recently started up a small game studio that I am running with a much different business model than most companies start with. Instead of finding investors who have expectations, I am starting from literally nothing, contracting developers with low experience who are trying to break into the industry and they are paid a percentage of sales after the game is completed. If a game is uncompleted, nobody gets paid. I have 2 teams working on 2 separate games. One team is a bit bigger and works on somewhat larger scale games, while the other team works on firing out mobile games every 6-8 months. This keeps a constant stream of low income, while the bigger games get a burst of larger income. We are working on our first 2 games now, so we will see how this works. The goal is to do this for the first 5-7 years at which point we hope to have made enough and expanded our teams enough that we can do this full time. The studio is called Dark Rabbit Studios, check us out! :)

[@sstephiL]

PS1 and PS2 were golden times when you buy full game, play it till you complete it, and even you play it free-roam after 100% game. These times... Just greedy.

[@preddes6522]

StifleroGaming HD those times weren't different you just had ass loads of shovelware instead of micro transactions

[@rolan5948]

StifleroGaming HD na those times were trash. If a game was broken, it would stay broken with exploits and glitches with no patch in sight. Resolution wasn’t even 720p, that shit was 480p can’t even look at that shit anymore. Graphics were also garbage with the exception of a few games that actually tried to look realistic, like NFS underground

[@masteroogway3816]

The TMG Specialist realistic graphics don't age well

[@nineten9011]

+The TMG Specialist graphics are not everything. a lot of those exploits were fun.

[@Julia-hk9jp]

The TMG Specialist are you kidding me? "those times were trash" what an ignorant shit head...the ps1 era and ps2 era is actually the foundation why ps3 and ps4 exist and PS2 sells 150 consoles "The Best selling console of all time"...and those games is unforgetable untill to this Days....like ff7,8,9 crash bandicot, spyro and more those game is unforgetable and state of the art when comes to story telling and the Graphics are Good in those times....unlike games now Good graphics but very Forgetable Game seriously And very unappealing characters...

[@shorround]

Remember the good old days of buying a game and not having to pay to play and buy a 60$ game with half of the content lock behind a pay wall

[@coraldiamond1922]

ShorRound or having micro transactions.

[@TUKMAK]

Which games are you playing that have a pay wall?

[@ashhketchumm]

you dont have to buy the game

[@playstationnation1515]

We have microtransactions so $60 games stay at $60! Much prefer having them than having to pay $80-90 per game which would affect everyone

[@chaosyeshua1137]

Ahh the good ol days.

[@FireGhost49]

Leonardo Da Vinci - "Art is never finished only abandoned" George Lucas - "A movie is never finished only abandoned" Falcon - "A video game is never finished only abandoned"

[@nieildilsonsouza4747]

FireGhostWarrior all 3 are cheap excuses for half assed work.

[@TheDennys21]

Movies and video games ARE art.

[@yafetkasalie8070]

True! That's completely an excuse!

[@darenabryant9100]

See... I'm spoiled in a way. I'm an old school gamer. When games were released, they were complete. They were as developed as they ever would be, and they were either good or bad, and the publishers accepted this. They were also a lot less detailed and complex, and so to me, I can't really grasp the concept of pushing out more and more unfinished product. It seems like all the various devs and producers do by putting out unfinished games, patchable or not, is slowly drive people away from gaming in general. You say the line that Miyamoto's comment drew has been blurred. But it hasn't. Look at how you talked down on No Man's Sky, even though the devs worked miracles to changee that game to what it was meant to be originally. Nothing they've done matters in your mind because of what they did FIRST. You say gaming companies can't sit around for three years developing their next game. I say neither can they keep cranking out half assed games no one likes or wants to play, then expect people to not care. Sadly, it comes down to what a lot of people heree are saying though. As long as people will buy literally any game that a company puts out, the practice will continue.

[@lukefeatherston130]

Y'know I would prefer a later release date over incomplete game, and from there further DLC is optional, like Bloodborne or Fallout New Vegas NOTE: Bloodborne did have the loading screen issue and New Vegas also ran like poo poo, but you don't have to mention that because outside of that the game is essentially 100% complete

[@coreyshipe]

*Cough* Half-Life 3

[@casuallyspelic9145]

When DLC is done right it's incredible. Your getting a whole nother part of a game you love. Ex: the Witcher, breath of the wild, etc. But when a game imediately has DLC right after launch with the base game lack luster in content, there just squeezing every last penny out of your pockets at that point.

[@OnaSoto]

Adam S Botw's Dlc wasn't bad but wasn't good

[@Meg-nc4su]

splatoon expansion was freaking incredible, way more than botw's (and I liked botw dlc)

[@aardbei54]

Adam S BotW's second DLC was good, the first one kinda sucked. Together they're pretty great though

[@pancakes5754]

I still have a theory that Mr Krabs runs EA

[@guy2574]

Mr Pug Krabs*

[@pancakes5754]

thx

[@OM3GA-Z3RO]

Nah, Flintheart Glomgold is running EA

[@popcorn-vn1ug]

Mr Pug what about spongebob?

[@toopink4death492]

The Best example of an unfinished game is Subnautica. The game was Early access for a couple of years but the game turned out exemplary. Sure there are bugs here and there, but it's patched after a bit of time.=3=

[@illyrium129]

Subnautica was an indie developers project though, and they didnt put the game out for $60. Even now, the games only priced at $25. It was unfinished, sure. But the game in itself was really only being worked on by like 3 people in most cases, so they had every understandable reason to take as long as they had to update and work on it.

[@turbolegend3976]

have you ever heard of DayZ Standalone? game had so much potential, was in beta the past six years.

[@BazilRat]

DayZ is a crap mod that grew too big for its boots and brought cancer to Arma.

[@RustedCroaker]

So Minecraft is not the exemple for you?

[@toopink4death492]

@@RustedCroaker Bruh Minecraft IS a complete game it's just being updated everytime. It's like for example Dota 2 or League of Legends that changes the Build every update, assuming that you thought Minecraft's Build Number means an Unfinished game.

[@CrazyPanda688]

I despise the gaming industry so much that I’m considering selling my console because there are so few games now that I find engaging because most of them are half finished or full of micro transactions

[@ZombieZlayer99]

Sam Kent nintendo switch, there you go

[@PasscodeAdvance]

Get a switch. Best console in history. Better if it had a better build quality and pascal tegra x2

[@QurenTheShield]

@@PasscodeAdvance Excuse me. Why do you say that? I was thinking about buying one?

[@theteamrpmgfs3901]

How about ps now or xbox

[@FlexicanMayor]

Relatable, thank god I still have my ps1&2, xbox, xbox 360, nds and others. I really miss the time without ridiculous amounts of DLCs and micro transactions.

[@Felix-fj4ib]

Then fallout 76 came

[@JonathanPerez-ts7uj]

....in our eyes.

[@svetlanarodriguez7429]

The more important question is : Why are Gamers are so stupid in buying unfinished games?

[@Sedite]

i really dont know

[@Sulucion6Tone]

Even better question is how come people do not proof read their one sentence for gramatical errors.

[@coraldiamond1922]

Svetlana Rodriguez Because once those trailers reveal “gameplay” and a preorder now some people clearly do not know the danger of preordering.

[@datriaxsondor590]

Sulucion 6Tone - Good question. So, why didn't you?

[@exodus1759]

It’s easy to say they don’t know? No one expected No Mans Sky to be shit because they scammed us with trailers and kids

[@NNNSSSCCC]

Can I get a heart from Falcon to show my friends? :)

[@Scareth]

Xx Big Easy 141 xX nothing to show off, so no

[@samuelflabra7326]

Nope

[@YathinJP]

Xx Big Easy 141 xX unlucky

[@alternativered2568]

You can get one from me.

[@isidorodaviddoro1920]

OMG lol

[@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo]

Honestly, thank you very much for making the distinction between the dev teams and the decision makers. The devs do not hold ALL of the keys for development unless they are independent. We put a lot of blame on dev teams when they're working as hard as they can and dealing with flak from incompetent publishers and leadership.

[@ShadowStyx21]

Example: Bought No Mans Sky on release, hated it, traded in and even with all their updates I’ll never pick it back up again. First impressions are everything for me.

[@wylie2835]

The mentality of a child.

[@santocraft2380]

For that decision you are missing an amazing game, the current community of no mans sky is one of the best, is super friendly and the game now has so much more content than it promised to have before release. But hey, first impressions matter don’t they? Just check it out again.

[@kitsunekaze93]

@@santocraft2380 i tried it, its still such an empty husk... had a lot of bugs in multiplayer too, like players experiencing different weather, the ground changing ( place building on flat ground, reload game, and building is submerged )

[@wesss9353]

It's been a year have you retried no man's sky?

[@jaraidiarmuid9093]

I honestly feel like, given what I've personally seen from the gaming industry, that a lot of games center around the visuals of the game. If EA is wanting to release a game, they want it to look pristine, usually at the cost of an engaging storyline and/or a bunch of a bugs being present in the game. The point I'm trying to make here is that visuals are, to my understanding, the most time consuming part when we're talking about the production of any video game, and how do you make a game look fantastic? Usually, this involves shading all the right parts. Now, I'm no artist and I may not know all that much about creating art, but shading allows for a sense of realism when you're looking at a picture or a set of moving frames, what with shadows and light and how that light interacts with surfaces. Which (finally) brings me to my point: I feel like we can expect to see more quality, working video games upon release once developers start implementing ray-tracing into their titles, as that would cut down heavily on the amount of time (and therefore money) required to bring a game's visuals up to what is expected by both the publisher as well as by gamers. This change will take time to implement, naturally, but as more PC gamers start switching to using hardware (and companies like Microsoft and Sony that start implementing ray-tracing hardware into their respective consoles as well) that allows for efficient rendering of ray-tracing, more devs should start using that procedure to set the graphics in their titles, which would allow them to more appropriately allocate resources to other aspects of the game they are working on, such as focusing more on mechanics, story line, and cleaning up bugs, which would hopefully result in more polished, and ultimately finished, games upon launch. But that's just my take on it all. I could be wrong.

[@zxcytdfxy256]

Stop normalizing this type of shit, it is completely unacceptable that most developers do this shit, everyone should take Nintendo as an example, they make the best games and are consistent af.

[@rempanda]

"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad." Miyamoto Nintendo have been heavily criticised in the past for release dates being pushed back, but honestly, I have to agree with Miyamoto. I would rather wait a little longer and buy a full, complete game from the beginning. Later DLC is understandable, and can add a lot to the experience. But it should never be required to unlock the full base game.

[@Arch-Tau]

Ikr, a setback is a frustration, but a bad game is... a waste of your time, money and a product.

[@TheDennys21]

Owen Apple CD Project Red

[@WastelandSeven]

I strongly agree. Not to mention you get abominations like Driver 3 if you push the release date too hard. And nearly destroyed the franchise. (Driv3rgate was the original gamergate and was covered up a lot more effectively) And of course, Mass Effect Andromeda comes to mind. Among many many others. Pushing the deadline too hard has killed more than one game that could have been great and a best seller. In the long run, that is just bad business. They're letting deadlines and greed for day one sales to get in the way of the long term goal of making a good product that will sell for decades. That is one reason I keep saying the AAA game market is in for a correction.

[@Arterexius]

I love Bethesda on that point. Sure, their games are glitchy and buggy as hell and they add less and less lore into the games in order to reach a wider audience, but their games are still great and they don't rush them. They've literally stated over and over again, that games are released when they're released. Sure, there's also the entire controversy surrounding Creation Club, but tbh, I don't think it's justice to send all the rage directly towards Todd Howard and Bethesda Game Studios. With the contents of this video in mind, I think it's safe to assume that while CC was designed and created by Bethesda Game Studios, it was most likely not decided by them. It was most likely decided by either Bethesda Softworks (The publisher) or Zenimax Games (the owner of the former two as well as other Game Studios). Since Bethesda Game Studios were the developers of both the newest Fallout and of the TES series, I believe the decision was made that they should also create the CC versions for those games. Despite Todd Howard being against the entire concept in the first place.

[@TheAffectation8724]

Releasing games fast means the sooner you get money. You can then make the excuse that the rest of the content will be available through DLC. Games like Fortnite, I think, are so popular because the game is constantly being updated with new content and has patches. While, games like No Man's Sky and Sea of Thieves get shit on simply because of the lack of things to do. Kingdom Hearts 3 has taken so long because Tesuya Nomura, and Square Enix , want to finalize on a complete product.

[@Sedite]

im very happy kingdom heart 3 took a long time i think the game will be really good

[@keynanmartinez]

It's a tough industry to be in, still it's better to wait than be disappointed.

[@GcorpCoPrez]

KH3 is the only hope now! XD at least nomura wants to complete the main campaign before applying any dlc. Good for him he wants the team to make a complete expansion and no season passes!

[@Buff_Drio]

SMASH ULTIMATE WILL BE AMAZING!!!!!!!!!

[@randomsomeguy156]

Fireblade78 fortnite is popular because it’s free, runs well, everyone can play with everyone (except consoles but I think a bit of money will get the ball rolling), most the new content is finished, regular updates fixing problems, you don’t have to pay for extras because the full battle Royale game is free but if you wish you can buy a completely different game which pays you back in the virtual currencies, etc etc

[@occiferfigpucker4840]

This is why I appreciate Naughty Dog and R*.

[@Berthology]

Occifer FigPucker and cd project red 🤘

[@ReghalMihn]

Plank And Larian Studios

[@iJamie8467x]

Occifer FigPucker Rockstar? Not since GTA V released they turned scummy and greedy, GTA Online feels like a free to play, its a Pay to Win game,. Red dead 3 (Redemption 2) will be pay to win since you can pay more money and gain a advantage over regular players on release date, they give starting guns and let you level up 6x faster till level 25, that's a huge advantage over people who don't pay

[@Scareth]

Pfft R* is the most money greedy company ever pfffffttttt

[@occiferfigpucker4840]

iJamie8467x Doesn't matter. Same as gta online, you'll catch up. Most of the time people who don't buy them are more skilled players anyway, because they aren't worried about stupid shit. RDR2 is about to redefine open world games, just like Red Dead Redemption before it. That nice GTA online money plus their most likely 100+ million in budget... This game's single player is going to be absolutely crazy. It's pretty much going to be living in the wild west, RPG elements in it.. Fuck the online, that's always second to me. Battlefield being the only exception.

[@soerenmalik]

Steam has to regulate all these "early acces" games coming out in hundreds every month these days. It can't be true that you can buy a game that is so unfinished that it is totally unplayeable. Something has to be done about this lazy attitude that has grown among the developers in the gaming industry. You gotta understand that this is a product you are selling to the consumers for the FULL price. They now have to wait at least one year or so to get the full potential from the money they've spent before the game is fully finished. I doubt there are any other businesses where you can get away with selling an unfinished product. Imagine if you went to a restaurant to go buy a sandwich, to get it faster, you get the early acces option. You then start out with two slices of bread and then the cook would come and further add the rest of the ingredients on a regular basis for half a year. Sounds like a nice meal? Not really. This is why it is so heart-tearing to buy what looks like such a cool, fun and nice looking game and then realize that you have to wait at least a year or one and a half, to get the full experience from the hard earned money you just spent on it. I understand it is a good way for the developers fund the game and make it even more advanced with time, than it would have been without early acces... But can you atleast just make sure the games are 100% playable when you release them in early acces to the public? Everytime I tried to kill a zombie in "Hunt Showdown" or interact with something, the game either crashed or I got disconnected. The developers need to regain the respect they used to have towards the consumers before early acces was a thing, so please, Crytek, next time you release a game in early acces, make sure ALL of your consumers can enjoy the small unfinished bits you've released to the public... I'm glad that steam at least has refund function now, thank god.

[@abyss8247]

Søren Malik 7dtd is a poor victim but what it suffers from is constant delay and not enough spent on the game full potential

[@achtungbaby91u26]

That's if it even ever comes out of early access.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

I got one "early Access" game on steam, and realized it was a paid beta (I should have, and now do, read the comments before clicking buy). Now, a game that looks really good is a no-buy JUST on the words, "Early Access".

[@elayness1749]

Look at Zelda: Breath of the Wild. They delayed that game over, and over. Yet, it won many awards and even title of Game of the Year. Worth the wait? Damn right.

[@gtavmovies958]

$Money$

[@DatGameCollector]

The simple answer is publisher greed!

[@hengistcz1940]

Indeed. Even mass effect franchise has fell victim to it. :(

[@Orcawhale1]

Has nothing to do with it. It's the customers who gladly pay 60 dollars for a unfinished game, that's the problem. If people stopped buying unfinished games, then the publishers wouldn't pull shit like that..

[@DatGameCollector]

spekhugger i agree, how ever we don't always know till days after release.

[@michaelhuebner6843]

This is why you wait for reviews to come out and why companies like Gamespot and IGN exist. Yes there are payoffs between game publishers and professional review outlets like IGN and Gamespot so this is why people like Angry Joe and Jim Sterling became famous. Also you can wait awhile until Metacritic has compiled enough industry and user reviews to make a more educated buying decision. BTW greed is a good thing not a bad thing. Greed is what causes everyone to go to work and provide services for others. You are confusingly associating fraud with greed and fraud is both unmoral and illegal. What Hello Games did with the promotion of No Man's Sky was fraud because they lied about what their product was to consumers to generate sales.

[@peepants604]

spekhugger you're right but wrong they are all about the money they are greedy that will fuck over the customer until they cant anymore

[@caliklepto1316]

It just blows my mind that the boss thinks selling an unfinished buggy mess, is better then delaying it for another few months..

[@זהסודי-ה7מ]

It's been shown to be more profitable, so I guess that's why

[@merccc1]

... It really depends. Some companies do it because it is actually needed and they do intend to do good by their customers, but there are always the bad apples that take advantage of these things and ruin it for the good ones. You should either avoid works in progress, or be a more educated buyer knowing the risk by researching who you are supporting. I have seen terribly obvious cash grabs make tons of sells which baffled me, and those with good backgrounds and reputation get nearly nothing... People do not research or make truly educated purchases anymore. They are sold by the flashiest things, and then go full hate and " Vs. the machine Mode" when they fuck up. They act first before thinking basically and blame everyone else for it. So I would say it's both some companies taking advantage of this, and the consumers being more sheep like/ignorant with their money. Not to mention the need for some to actually do this method to stay afloat as they try to finish them game.

[@RadekZielinski.]

People are innocent to buy unfinished games, however the developers aren't innocent when they stop updating. Here's the problem... that no one will solve. It's as though you pay the wages to someone before work is done, but he just does nothing all of the sudden, and you cannot fire him, or force him to give you the money back.

[@olmoodyversion2.086]

Well.. there´s only one acceptable reason to stop updating after entering EA: Bankrupt. Otherwise it´s either waiting a few month for a big update, if nothing happens, you know that someone wanted to have some cash. Actually steam solved that problem once (or twice), they gave people who bough WarZ/Infestation their money back, but theres no real other solution at that point.

[@NDakota79]

I despise the gaming industry and I can't enjoy modern AAA games no more.

[@surprisedwoody1025]

I don't blame you.

[@coraldiamond1922]

Tankado I was almost going to get battlefront 2 when that released. However after the launch I have decided to not buy anything tainted by EA.

[@godsgreatestmistake8013]

It's sad that some good indie companies are bought by these companies, which you then have to worry about the problems it now might get.

[@Drstrange3000]

There are still excellent AAA games. It is just a lot more rare. Sony and Nintendo make great AAA experiences.

[@returnedtomonkey8886]

Witcher 3 and most ps exclusives are good.

[@russellstone6390]

If u give a "company" an inch they "will take" a mile or 10. It's our fault for buying half of a product. Trust me they do their research.

[@purphexyon]

Russell Stone Well said 👍

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Unrelated, but that is the dumbest use of quotation marks I've seen in a long time.

[@Sedite]

see fortnite did copy pubg by putting it in early access they worked on it since 2011 i doubt they really had a hard deadline and theyr probrably not ganna put it as finished becouse an early access game has a faster update prosses

[@deadphenome2548]

I don't trust you

[@Aeluron]

And look how popular it is. Clearly they are doing something right.

[@SergeantQuackersThe2nd]

Its 1 Reason why I have so little interest with New Games nowadays. They tend to be incomplete or rushed and money grabbing. Which is why I prefer playing Old Games like Borderlands, Bulletstorm, Halo (Bungie Trilogy), Max Payne, etc... They are complete, barely rushed and fun due to the Quality and Quantity of Content. Even if there are problems, Patches and Mods are relatively easy to acquire. So yeah, sticking with Older Games.

[@mikemarks6136]

BuryTheDead even those examples were considered unfinished during their time alot of content was cut

[@Drstrange3000]

BuryTheDead We still have new games that have the old game polish. I'd say those games surpass them too. You just have to look. Most people ignore the hidden gems. Divinity Original Sin 2, Gravity Rush 2, Cuphead, Ori and the Blind Forest, Zelda BotW, and Nier Automata being great examples.

[@syloui]

I believe the market is just half and half between finished and unfinished games from large publishers. It's simple really, all you gotta do is look and see which publishers are more consistent with releasing unfinished games, and don't consider buying any of their games unless you know the development length of that game is significant (see the amount of time it took to make Witcher 3 or BotW as opposed to almost any assassin's creed game or most EA titles) that alone will tell you if a game might have been rushed. A little research can go a long way

[@SadisticSenpai61]

I don't do online only games. I don't want a temporary game and all online only games are, in the end, only temporary. I also prefer to wait at least a couple weeks for the initial wave of emergency patches to go through... and watch a few Let's Plays so I know whether or not I'll even like a game. Needless to say, I don't buy a lot of new games.

[@cloudstrife4957]

Simple. They found a way to not have to pay testers. Games are released right before they get to the testing stage full of glitches. We find those glitches and our system brings up an error that you can either send to them or you have the automatic send feature turned on. Presto, free testing.

[@shahzebabbas6756]

Man you people really do give a good insight of how the gaming industry or games, for that matter, work. Thanks for all these videos guys.

[@Noobnuker1]

The four horsemen of the apocalypse: open world, crafting, survival, early access.

[@Dark_Tale_2077]

I'd like to point out that in a time where games are released unfinished, Nintendo has continued to release quality games that are finished then added onto with real DLC. And they make shit loads of money. And they have a good standing with gamers. So a balance is possible.

[@Darkmortal100]

Because people tell companies their actions are okay by buying them.

[@pp3k3jamail]

Facts

[@MrYeast555]

They should make finished games that are longer than the extra content (like 60-70% longer in gameplay than the extra content). And than add extra content for people that really loved the main game and want to experience more from that game. That should be the DLC. Something like the witcher III wild hunt does.

[@mrlungbutter]

4 years later not much has changed

[@jorgegodinez522]

"Here comes the money" "Money money money money money money money money" "Dolla Dolla, Dolla Dolla"

[@thegroove14]

So companies can milk you with DLC, expansions, and microtransactions!

[@scarecrow99999]

Garrick Groover dlc is good when it adds to a game but of course not when it's used to sell the missing part of a game

[@denirebic5769]

Well thats why piratebay is for.

[@coraldiamond1922]

James Forster cough Sims 4.

[@matth23e2]

Except your the one choosing to give them money.

[@melficexd]

And we aren't taught yet to refuse them properly.

[@mikec7174]

So relevant now in 2022. I'm so sick of this.

[@intelligenceparadigm4931]

One man indie developer here. I've been working on an action RPG for a few years, and it'll probably come out on steam next year, but I'm only concerned with quality assurance. There's no set deadline for me. If it's got any notable problems when everything else is finished, it's not going to be released in that condition. Better to be sure of quality rather than trying to just get fewer people to buy it sooner and accept lower reception. I don't think people should rush these things.

[@ion9460]

This video sums up why I have higher Hope's for Metro:Exodus. The idea that they're pushing back the deadline in order to give the devs time to work out the bugs and overall improve the game makes me appreciate them even more. The previous games were borderline masterpieces for the gen. I can wait to be amazed, but I can't take another let down. Thanks Metro devs.

[@Moravia90s]

Speaking of Codemasters, here is a REALLY upsetting fact: Back in the day I purchased Clive Barker's Jericho (underrated AF IMHO), nevertheless it had a really shitty "feature". The game had the option to input cheat codes to get stuff like infinite ammo, health, weapons and so on; however to get those codes you had to call to one of those pay-per-minute phone numbers and yes, those codes were directly related to the code in your game. Pay to cheat? I don't know, but it was annoying since one of these days I wanted to replay the game and there was no way to get those codes now. And I'm not even talking about paying, but maybe some universal code since the game is out of support. How about doing a video about it @Gameranx? I can help you.

[@cloudy5134]

Moravia90s idk about the cheat code thing but that was a pretty good game. Thanks for reminding me of that old gem!

[@Moravia90s]

Glad I did. It's a shame it was released in a time when everyone just wanted CoD clones or "realistic" FPSs.

[@m.a.924]

Im pretty sure you can still get those codes somewhere on the internet for free. I remember back in the day I used to be subscribed to gamepro magazine and every issue they had the best cheat codes of the month on the last 3 or 4 pages. I miss the cheat code days.

[@SouperDooper21]

I remember playing micro machines v4 from code masters (Love that game) and I remember you had to go online to their site to get the cheats it was pretty dumb lol but it was a fun racing game anyways

[@toopink4death492]

A game that is notorious for cheat codes is Saints Row 2-4 =3=

[@shaiyasharahla9198]

If game prices are as "unfinished" as the games themself... Then I guess I wouldn't mind. As long as the devs are listening to feedback and actually making logical progress (unlike PUBG).

[@Lors_101]

How do PUBG devs not listen to PUBG players?

[@BrandonOfJapan]

One word, GREEEEEEEDDDDDDDD!

[@blackg450]

BrandonOfJapan And dumb consumers keep buying them.

[@73rmin47or]

and you be part of them

[@darrenhunter2324]

Speaking as a Web and Application Dev, we normal have a deadline and work up to that point, while testing as well. We have to balance content with functionality, so we may delay some functions if they take longer to complete in our dev cycle til the next cycle. Coding is not a simple matter, some times there are glitches and delays for viable reasons, when you are waiting on information from a 3rd party, or the functionality you want to add may take 3 weeks to complete and not 2 weeks. Software development is not a simple processes and even with the simplest of applications you can hit issues, so for game devs it even harder.

[@joshuawagner2590]

This is a good explanation of what goes on behind the scenes. Nice work.

[@LilianTheNinkasi]

*cough* Final Fantasy XV *cough*

[@JoshuaNY93BX]

Comrade Sandwich I would agree but it has dlcs and patches but good example of a game that doesn't require dlcs to feel fulfilled

[@killavilla8373]

JoshuaNY93BX i was disappointed and im a big FF fan

[@christianblocker1782]

FFXV is my favorite game of all time tbh

[@JoshuaNY93BX]

Killa Villa u were, but in all honesty better than a completely unfinished crap game like destiny. Maybe it wasn't the game that was promised and yes it got linear towards end do to changing of original story and not enough time to finish, but if asked did I enjoy it, did I feel better off than most games that say they are finished but not. The answer is yes, the story is good enough to make me cry and I dont feel paywalled lol

[@LilianTheNinkasi]

JoshuaNY93BX I felt robbed because the gameplay isn't deep in the slightest the combat in the endgame is the same as the early game and controlling only Noctis is boring. The story isn't told well everything that would make us understand what the characters feel is locked away behind a DLC, a movie or a crappy anime on KZbin. It's a trash game that was unfinished at launch and I won't pay 150€ to have the complete edition when the second season pass will be out. This is a true shame of a selling policy and it shows the utmost disrespect for SE towards their early buyer. FFXV doesn't deserve the praise it gets, if only because that horrible sale policy

[@cornflkeboy1]

I don't care what the reasons are -- I don't appreciate feeling like I wasted my hard earned money. This shit is gonna keep happening until people stop accepting it and refuse to buy a game until it's finished.

[@jaywest3734]

Start buying cheaper indie games and even classics on PC. AAA studios don't deserve our money.

[@roderickwilliams67]

Who's here after cyberpunk 2077

[@coolguy2873]

“You can’t rush art”. -The old guy from Toy Story 2

[@DARK_AMBIGUOUS]

Keep in mind that this video was made before Cyberpunk, Battlefield 2042, and the GTA Trilogy Definitive Editions

[@gorkaaustin5306]

One of the reasons are people who are dumb enough to pre order games.

[@ReghalMihn]

Bo Peep Amen

[@purphexyon]

Top shelf comment 👏

[@mehgamer467]

Bo Peep you can cancel preorders. The problem is people buying them. Unless you mean digital preorders thennnnnn yeah

[@bejisan1]

If you know you're gonna keep the game and it seems good, preorders provide a revenue to cushion the risks, preventing said game to be rushed. So thank us who preorder even digitaly to reassure developpers we champion. Plus preordering allows you to plan your expenses for people who are selective on games they buy. But some people are just dumb to pass judgement on things they clearly don't understand, I guess.

[@svetlanarodriguez7429]

I pre ordered a game 1 time and will never do it again.

[@Petooize]

Comparing NoManSky to Witcher 3 is a sin lol

[@Icenfyre]

Hussein A +blasphemy

[@puskywastaken]

Hussein A TBH No Man Sky kinda redeemed itself with the constant updates and but fixes. Of course that doesn't excuse their scummy practices, but I personally think it's at least a step in the right direction.

[@Lors_101]

and CD Project red has what like 800 employees while No Man's Sky has like 12 or something

[@falloutstarcraft2]

Still though, didn't No Man's Sky charge full price? Full price means I compare the games equally, as a consumer I don't care if one has fewer devs as to me $60 means full triple A experience should be assumed. As far as I am concerned they should not charge the same asking price as The Witcher 3 if they cannot match its value offering to players. I would be lenient or perhaps even be favorable towards NMS had they launched at $20/$30.

[@inmymargiela]

Sony charged a full $60. Not forgiving the devs for the release is reasonable, however you can't look at what happened to lead up to such an awful release. A flood destroyed a year of work on No Mans Sky and led them to run out of money.

[@blackbeardteach1193]

In Soviet Russia beta testers pay YOU!

[@jsmpsnn]

Classic Yakov.

[@legocrazz8528]

Actually in soviet russia beta pays tester because in glorious not soviet russia we pay to get into betas

[@atharva.shinde]

blackbeard teach more like in actual world now...

[@TheMelvinV]

Why should I pay testers. Like If you buy the game I litterly get back the money. So no there isn't a reason to pay testers. Like look for a job or something. Altough you can sign up at rockstar games for game tester and you will get payed. But the requirement are weird. Like get ready to be a pro at mortal combat. They let you play it to prove you can be a tester.

[@CrazyBeardedGamer]

I capitalist America, beta testers pay you....

[@beancounter2185]

I'm an old gamer. I remember a time when all games were released completely finished, and mostly free of bugs. The current trend of "early release" is just a cash grab, as well as a means to make the cash flow last longer (instead of all at once at release)

[@connormoylan2466]

Fallout: new vegas is still one of my favorite games, I've found all the bugs but would still play it if my 360 still worked, wouldent have even bought fallout 4 if I could, no joke

[@swaggdaddy694]

Greedy publishers, nuff said

[@keynanmartinez]

Money is a necessary evil to every one yet it's how you use it. If you were in their shoes you'll understand if you do.

[@keynanmartinez]

In this day of video games some companys are working half to make a game just to excuse it for DLC saving time and money. Look everyone needs money because that's how it works yet is what you do with that time and money in creating video games to the consumer. Lucky some companys do work hard in developing and make our hard earn money worth it, still is a necessary evil with the money but with the right people they can balance the outcome of this industry in playing a video game.

[@c.harris3411]

keynan martinez nice smash pic! You play melee?

[@keynanmartinez]

PowerRB34 Yeah I do but Brawl is my personal favorite.

[@falloutstarcraft2]

Very very few do so, they're essentially becoming like mythical unicorns IMO. Only CD Projekt RED & Nintendo's 1st party. Outside of them I fully expect every game to release in shambles and charge 50-100% more beyond purchase price to complete it so I wait 1 year for complete edition AKA what should have been there Day 1. The argument about needing extra money is BS because profits have never been higher in gaming history than today. The only truly fair games have been Witcher 3, Skyrim, Nintendo games like Zelda BotW, Super Smash Bros, Mario Odyssey, perhaps Fallout 4, and Dark Souls 3 although perhaps I only feel this way for FO4 because I bought Season Pass before the price increase. Perhaps also God of War & HZD. And I now have doubts towards Bethesda due to jumping on online bandwagon with Fallout 76, though at least they have claimed that MTX for 76 are cosmetic only & that future games such as Starfield/TES6 will be single player. Hopefully they make good on this so I can again count them among my Big Three of game development: CD Projekt, Nintendo, Bethesda.

[@vurhn2009]

keynan martinez Brawl was my shot back in the day 9 yrs ago but yea I played good Early Access games before but I can see why devs just released the game when it has full of bugs and shit I mean sure PUBG is one example

[@sumdood4856]

Fallout New Vegas' bugs are just part of the Bethesda open world RPG experience.

[@DanielPennybaker]

It wouldn’t be Fallout without constant crashes.

[@godsgreatestmistake8013]

Romuald Rom24 Fallout New Vega wasn't made by Bethesda though.

[@sumdood4856]

But it was still published by them and as such,it needs a little bit of what makes other Bethesda game Bethesda games.

[@godsgreatestmistake8013]

Romuald Rom24 The only bethesda thing about it is the engine, since it was made by bethesda.

[@Grigeral]

@Daniel - To be completely honest, I hear about how Bethesda's bugs are huge etc, but I have never once had a game breaking bug from 'any' Bethesda game. Only minor glitchy bugs which provide mild amusement more than anything. Never even really had them crash, which as no one I know suffers crash issues, would tell me those that do potentially have a hardware related issue more than anything.

[@krudmonger]

When DaVinci said "Art is never finished, only abandoned," it wasn't meant to be taken literally the way Lucas seems to have. It was fun/clever wordplay, like when MacArthur said, "Old soldiers never die, they just fade away," he didn't mean soldiers never actually die. He was being poetic. Soldiers eventually die, and art is (for all practical purposes) eventually finished. If you bought a painting you would not expect the artist to show up at your door one day saying "Hang on, I just need to tweak a few things and then you can have it back." Game companies need to learn to "abandon" their games in a playable, complete, and (if at all possible) bug-free state.

[@PurooRoy]

"A delayed game is eventually a good game. A bad game is bad forever." Cyberpunk 2077: Well yes, but actually no.

[@myworms]

EA are the biggest offenders when it comes to putting out broken games just to meet the deadline.

[@mauryj.3415]

Brandon Stanley ubisoft too and Nintendo... actually almost all the companies have put out broken games at some point.

[@nickabbott319]

Cough cough***** battlefront 2

[@scarecrow99999]

EA releases the same games every year just with a different title there's no reason their games shouldn't be finished

[@denirebic5769]

Cough, cough, piratebay.

[@coraldiamond1922]

Soul Glo cough the sims series which costs like upwards of £300 to get every single content pack.

[@SanoCrushridge]

Another video that sounds like he slowed down around 4 minutes to reach the 10 minute mark. Put it on 1.25x and it'll sound like his normal speaking speed

[@weldabar]

I turned it up to 1.5x

[@gabrielmckee1093]

Wow holy shit he REALLY does slow down at 4 minutes..

[@jordanrichardsonbjj4339]

*Cyberpunk 2077 has entered the chat*

[@emperormiguelgallazaiii6309]

@Uncle how’s your lumbago

[@thumpyloudfoot864]

Good thing 2020 didn't have any unfinished games released.....

[@AFT_05G]

Cyberpunk 2077

[@dburd22]

This was a great video! Gave Me clarification of the whole industry I gotta say I'm am now a true believer the video games are still good. (I'm also a hardcore fanboy)

[@coraldiamond1922]

Well battle front 2, fifa and the Sims are clear examples of this.

[@jollycooperation7446]

Sims....REALLY good example at dlc's. I think the Sims 4 has like 30-ish the last time I checked.

[@coraldiamond1922]

Jolly Cooperation In regards to being unfinished. That is why there are so many DLCs that have no place. They stripped the content out and instead of selling a game for a full price of £60 they instead sell it as a complete experience for over £300.

[@DanDoesGame]

"Why Are More Games".............. What game have you played the past 5 years that havent had a DLC or gotten some patch to fix the broken version of the game that was released? XD lol

[@greenlovin1]

SuperDan indie games, story driven games..there's a bunch.

[@godsgreatestmistake8013]

SuperDan The good games are hidden under the shitty ones.

[@xnsbrand]

So far Deadpool. got it 3 yrs ago on the day it came out and i check every day and no updates or dlc ever. and yes, i wrote all of this on my xbox x.

[@koolhoven6342]

Kerbal Space Program only got it's first DLC this year and it has been finished for years

[@thewarden6050]

SuperDan cuphead

[@AlejandroMartinez-xx4mz]

So they can make more money selling off the rest of the game as dlc

[@johnlawful2272]

Alejandro Martinez ff15

[@isidorodaviddoro1920]

john lawful yes the game is a fucking live service and it is full of DLC lol

[@AlejandroMartinez-xx4mz]

john lawful exactly but it was still a pretty good game without the dlc

[@kerensh4053]

It's just that everyone behind doing anything miss the very important steps of making a game good. People need to have a list to look at when creating content: -Idea -Talking about the idea (not taking every advise just the constructive ones) -Creating from scratch -Showing the Idea to close friends -mTHEN and only THEN start developing the game -Set a reasonable scheduled date which doesn't have to be 10 years but not even an year which is not enough imo -Come up with ideas that will make the game more profitable but keeps the game well balanced and really enjoyable -Make sure at least 90% of the game is complete before releasing -Patch the game to complete it as close to 100% within the first 2 months. This is my opinion as a non-game maker tho, so I might be wrong, but I think this way developers make a great game and gety paid really good for it, publishers make a lot of moneky out of the game itself and DLCs/Loot Boxes/whatever as long as it stays well balanced and gamers are happy to spend their money on the products and will close an eye or two over a few unfinished things if the game itself is good.

[@preflightdrip8672]

this is why i like insurgency sandstorm. They held back the console version until winter 2019 when pc came out in august because it was glitchy and they wanted to polish it. i respect that and the changes they have made are worth the wait.

[@benjaminbeltran7004]

Because stupid people are buying them.

[@coraldiamond1922]

Benjamin Beltran People who should not be buying them are buying them.

[@jollycooperation7446]

People who know the game isnt finished, complain about it being unfinished, still buy, get mad at day 1 patches, rage about loot boxes, but still buy the full game, the season pass, AND some more on loot boxes... Then they complain its the companies fault, while they're the idiots that feed them.

[@isidorodaviddoro1920]

Jolly Cooperation yeah bro lol look at star wars Battlefront 2 the game is a mess it is full of microtrasactions the game is pay to win and there is almost no content many dumb gamers knew about This but they bought the game anyway,This is dumb

[@effthree7227]

nothing we can do about that. people will always be dumb

[@isidorodaviddoro1920]

Eff Three yeah bro lol

[@AurioDK]

People buy them anyway, that is the reason. If nobody bought games until they were properly reviewed it simply wouldn´t happen.

[@clericofchaos1]

There's no conspiracy or mystery. It's just laziness. Before they had the ability to patch games they always released a finished product. Now, they know they can get away with less work and finish the product later, and that has made them lazy.

[@coraldiamond1922]

clericofchaos1 Less work and earn more for it then releasing a complete experience.

[@marcusclarkson2657]

clericofchaos1 people buying it made them lazy. If people dont buy it, they wont do it, PERIOD. Folks get online and bellyache all they want but when they swipe that card it drowns out any complaints they make.

[@Dano84]

Honestly I think that's going to plague us more this year. I enjoy early access titles at times, particularly on steam where maybe it's one guy or a small team, and they need that time to get the idea out and finance as they go. I've actually started buying more games that show promise or already appear at a fun and playable level. But consoles and big developers need to stop releasing too far ahead. Like you pointed out already, a bad game is a bad game for good. Mass Effect was killed by probably a pushed schedule. And PUBG, I enjoy it and its early access but its gonna sink in the wave it created by not optimising and completely faster. Last years plague was loot box and microtransactions and this years is early buggy unfinished games. Hopefully that's corrected. To me, a release date in today's day, probably isn't as relevant as opposed to previous years. Sure, boosted sales round Christmas but if a game is solid, with streamers and just internet, people will find out and buy no matter when it's out. Anyway, great vid and look forward to the next

[@adamc8409]

Remember back pre internet when games were launched complete? Pepperidge farms remembers!

[@roderickwilliams67]

Yeah because without the internet they were fucked if they sold games half baked

[@bern9642]

@@roderickwilliams67 also back then games were much smaller.

[@JokerOnOpium]

Haha Cyberpunk and Black Ops Cold War

[@irish9579]

There need to be more game like elite dangerous. They add lots of content each year and released a full game and the one dlc is not a bad price.

[@Simrathe]

Irish Roddy Elite is seeming to have a problem with the ampunt of content in the game overall though. Despite that, credit is certainly due to them for supporting their game for as long as they have

[@irish9579]

bLu3_BOLT63 But I also hear that the devs are working on atmospheric landing starting with planets like Mars and eventually getting to earth like planets in chapter 4, and that's coming at the end of this year.

[@bigyoshi5170]

Just imperfect games and that’s every game QUICK EDIT:Except Battlefront 2

[@Sedite]

if someone that was much less greedy made battlefront 2 it would be praised by many ppl just sayin

[@bigyoshi5170]

stockart whiteman that’s why it was unfinished to me, because they spent so much time implementing micro transactions into the game

[@bigyoshi5170]

Sedite true

[@bigyoshi5170]

Jared Lilley if you find it fun that’s fine and I’m glad we can agree that it could’ve been better

[@sheperdofthebrahs]

Has aged like milk with games like cyberpunk

[@abysmalgameplay1330]

My perspective as an indie developer is, especially if you don't already have one, getting a community around my game so I can have people to give their thoughts on my game so it doesn't end up being vacant in exciting content to a mass of people

[@parsastrife6629]

Because we buy them anyway

[@localhobo5362]

Pre-order is a big deal for developers (not publishers). They actually can pay salaries b4 the game release.

[@whodis715]

The only pre order that is worth it is from Amazon with 20% off. Ps. People out there still defending no mans sky give developers hope to release broken games

[@pp3k3jamail]

We!

[@kevinmcmahon2529]

I’m surprised final fantasy xv wasn’t brought up that game was a complete disaster still kinda is

[@surprisedwoody1025]

: (

[@GcorpCoPrez]

That game needed the delay if it released the royal edition as its first release. :/ i have yet to beat it even tho i got it day one. SE still adding content. :/ stapp

[@JoshuaNY93BX]

Did we play two different games I was completely fulfilled with ffxv, granted it got linear toward the end but a truly fulfilling game without the requirement of dlcs unlike games like destiny which are completely crap. The only reason for ffxv becoming linear t ok ward end was because they changed the original story and said they didnt have enough time to keep the world open the way they wanted to for ending but all in all great story and game.

[@SquallRanger]

Why Gameranx always use glitch pictures as thumbnail for his videos?

[@franklinlamar82]

10/10 review. First , devs just copy paste code from old games, ( lazy, save money , time table , doesn't matter why) , look at gta5 , the original vehicles meta was pretty much identical to gta4 vehicles meta, they literally just copy pasted it over. Even hitman , during episodic release the npc's had the same exact dialogue from hitman absolution , but was later removed. This is not the problem, the problem is the devs who wrote the original files have moved on to different companies , and the devs who take their place are not really familiar with the coding ,and they add more lines of code that conflict with old lines ( and they dont know how to fix it). Second,what you said at 6:06 people will find something broken with any game ,doesnt matter how refined it is. Devs know this and rather then pre refine , only to receive additional criticism , they choose to release unpolished versions knowing you were going to complain no matter what , and they fix it to make it appear as if they were appealing to consumers. Two birds with one stone.

[@sonny12681]

No Man's Sky has improved greatly over the years and this summer No Man's Sky is going to have a big update that give that game VR support.