WHY are People Buying this $68 GPU?

[@ToastyBros]

jawa.link/TBJuly24 - Save big on your next GPU with Jawa

[@lawrence1986ify]

if your useing the card as some form of steam link who needs any type of HDMI or video out really although like you said there are better cards to do this with but if your on a tight budget like kids or a friend or something than I can see how this would work because saveing $10 or even $40 in bulk to spend that extra 40 on a processor would be worth it

[@GemCityRCOutlaws]

absolutely would not touch their service. evga doesnt even make cards anymore but jawa offered $420 for my evga 3090 ftw3. less than half of the market value of the item right now. what do you think theyre charging for "new cards"?! LMFAO this really is proof youtubers will shill anything regardless of if its a good service or a scam.

[@KostjaJurs]

Can you deliver a pc to Latvia

[@KostjaJurs]

???

[@seangallagher515]

hey just so you know i went to buy a windows 10 pro key and there is nomore paypal options anymore why

[@unknown183]

Because it's 68 bucks. That was easy.

[@Rayyan-hi2ge]

but you can buy an rx 580 for cheaper/same

[@dumbfloppa]

@@Rayyan-hi2ge But its 3 years older.

[@jahluu6825]

@@dumbfloppa still a worse gpu tho

[@Rayyan-hi2ge]

@@dumbfloppa they are both polaris and rx 580 2048sp released near the same time

[@moleethedon]

It's a shit card though...

[@Uno943]

Seems like two of my KZbinrs review the GPU the same day. ToastyBros and RandomGaminginHD. Seems like an interesting card for the value.

[@kalark]

haha i was about to post the same comment

[@aleksazunjic9672]

Probably Ali sponsorship. But realistically, 580 2048 SP is a better choice for the money.

[@josejuanandrade4439]

Is called a sponsorship. Just wait, you'll probably see a few more vids pop up in the next hours/day talking about this card.

[@ToastyBros]

@@aleksazunjic9672We have to disclose sponsorships so no, they didn’t

[@Uno943]

@@ToastyBros I appreciate both channels looking at value options no matter what. If you travel back a few years here and if we could have gotten our hands on this card for $68 at that time then it would have flown off the shelf. As you stated in your video the RX580 2048 SP makes more sense today, but it's still not a bad card for $68. Performance on part with the RX6400 for less price and more VRAM doesnt seem like a bad deal for a new card either. Keep doing what you guys are doing!

[@jjsams4387]

Keep your Deep Cool parts. It's highly irresponsible to create more e-waste from perfectly useable components.

[@badawesome]

go fly a kite

[@urracojalpa4481]

What's the problem with Deep Cool? What's that about?

[@92kosta]

@@urracojalpa4481 USA have decided to ban their products.

[@Spork0]

@@urracojalpa4481sanctioned in the USA. So warranty is void.

[@GamingWithKoi]

​@@urracojalpa4481I believe they broke a law in the USA by supplying Russia parts or smth

[@KiLDELTA]

since this is a China exclusive, and cafes are very popular here in Asia, it is possible these were released for that purpose making the cost of any bulk order of these cheaper vs the regular ones and also the main reason it only has one HDMI port

[@aleksazunjic9672]

Not really worth the money, considering that RX 580 2048 SP costs around $80 .

[@iDub757]

rx5500xt is also about 80

[@DJSekuHusky]

I got my used Sapphire Nitro+ RX 580 SE for $60 on Mercari. It was $70 originally but I had a _$10 off any purchase_ coupon. It needed a dang good cleaning, otherwise no exterior damage or blemishes, and the card worked just fine on first boot and passed stress-testing flawlessly.

[@scarfaceReaper]

The GTX 1660S/TI also around there with more performance

[@bubblegumgun3292]

RX 580 Absolute Legend of a GPU

[@Azhar_9212]

​@@scarfaceReaperno bro 1660 super/ti are 200 dollar new and like 140 dollar used

[@Conumdrum]

You could buy 3 White Thermalright Peerless Assassin air coolers for the price of 1 DeepCool Assassin IV. They have comparable performance. This channel is budget build orientated and should swap out the DeepCool and test it. Gamers Nexus has posted several deep dives on air coolers and shown that Thermalright Peerless Assassin's can compete with the DeepCool's.

[@elgigante2001]

I don't have any issues with you guys using Deepcool parts for your test setup. I'm sure its all items you guys had before their current issues. So i say keep using them till they stop working, just i guess not mentioning their name, maybe?

[@atomiczombie22]

Deep Cool wasn't banned when you built your test bench, so keep it. No biggie.

[@urracojalpa4481]

Banned? Who's banned it and why?

[@atomiczombie22]

The US government banned Deep Cool from selling products in the US because they broke a law and sold stuff to Russia

[@fightinirish201]

You should get rid of that test bench immediately! Send it to me and I'll depose of it properly 😉

[@MKIVD]

I think the best way to test these things are with a common setup like a Ryzen 5000 series CPU, 8/16gb ram, a random 650 psu and 256 gb of a common cheap ssd.

[@GodSonBlessed]

256 gb in 2024? You'll barely be able to store two games on the PC. These new games are all over 100gb

[@MKIVD]

@@GodSonBlessed 256/512 doesnt matter so long as it's random and cheap

[@pweddy1]

If it didn’t require external power, it might be worthwhile. When I saw the power connector I was like nah.

[@JasonGrey-wm2sh]

I have a rx580... amd has given me the oppertunity to play games i always wanted.... amd has really given me the vhance to create memories that i've hust seen played on youtube... i'm really gratefull to them

[@brocksamson5786]

I think you should keep the deepcool test bench....and watercool it with EK. 😂

[@TuskerPCs]

Thanks for featuring our PC on Jawa. We love your videos and would love to send you a build to review.

[@Reluctant_Hero]

Keep the Deepcool build. I know I’ll be keeping mine.

[@NecroGami2498]

Whats wrong with DeepCool? Did i miss something? Someone let me know please.

[@z33jonah]

basically the US sanctioned the whole company and prohibits the sale of their products right now because their company sold product to Russia.

[@dlewis9760]

@@z33jonah I believe 1 million US worth of products.

[@NecroGami2498]

@@z33jonah wow that's messed up. Thanks for the information

[@only1muppet]

I have a business related suggestion for you. If you’re going to keep buying dusty PC’s, you could build yourself a dusting cabinet. Something similar to a sandblasting cabinet. However you can install a flex duct for exhaust that runs to a box that’s got a fan and HEPA filter. You could make the legs and base out of 2x4’s. The cabinet could be made out of both 1/2 and 1/4” plywood.

[@Jwalker76]

If you have to change the deep cool build maybe montech would be a good replacement.

[@BillHutchison77]

Keep using the Deep Cool parts, no need to change as the entire narrative will probably change anyway in a few months ...

[@thatgut2375]

What you can do is try a build using only foreign parts, I'd like to see if any of the components from China, like their CPU's, motherboards and things like that stack up with Intel and AMD

[@simonworthington7979]

It's more on the extreme and kind of silly side of things but in case you haven't seen it Dawid has done Ali Express and Wish parts only builds.

[@thatgut2375]

Yes, I've seen it, but what I'm talking about is some of the CPU's and boards and such that are out there that aren't AMD or Intel or any of the major names we typically think of with PC builds most of the time

[@Kyrbiville]

For the DP parts . Man they’re your parts, use them.

[@kingklump]

You are only the second channel I've seen this on. It must not be terribly easy to get!

[@Chr1st0ph3r_]

Hey toasty bros I love your videos, I think you should try a machinist motherboard combo with 16gb ddr4 2133mhz ram, Xeon e5 2650 v3 it’s super good value and runs great I think you could put together an amazing budget build. I am using them now with a 1660 super and it is amazing and only cost around $300

[@R3AL-AIM]

Keep using them. They are good parts, they look and do well. It doesn't take away from any wrong doing, but neither does you guys using them make you bad for doing so.

[@charlestownshotokan5704]

They already got your money, you might as well get some use out of it. Keep the Deep Cool.

[@kr00tman]

I wonder if it's just a repurposed mining GPU, the single HDMI port kind of gives that away. Like you said, hard to recommend this when you can get an rx 580 for around 60 bucks and a 5600xt for like 80-90

[@erico7430]

i did pick up the rx 580 for a refresh of an old third gen i7 and it worked great. This $68 card doesn't seem to make sense

[@hyperfocal2002]

Don't worry about the Deep Cool stuff. It's a chunk of metal and a fan. If they were caught smuggling high-end Nvidia AI cards, that would be a different issue, but even selling coolers isn't exactly the end of the world.

[@TriPBOOMER]

Boys just stick some white tape over the ''DC's'' and call it a day!🤣

[@Messmakur]

I just sold one of my older gtx 500 series models on Jawa. I've had good luck on that site with products.

[@LatitudeSky]

No plans to replace my Deep Cool LS720 AIO. It has the performance I want and it's paid for. Don't expect anyone to give me a replacement. I think it IS awkward to show it on videos because it will just cause questions. Anyway, this card seems OK for basic stuff, like Windows desktop. But I would save a little more and try to snag a deal on a used RX6600 for like $120.

[@robcooper3171]

You can build a AM4 R7 5700x3d Test bench, and if you get a gpu that you think may be bottlenecked, you can show the difference from AM4 high-end vs AM5 Mid-tier. So essentially having 2 tests bench rigs, and showing the potential gains even from a platform changing upgrade.

[@jtenorj]

Some testing I've seen lately shows a base line R5 7600 beating the R7 5800X3D at least a bit on average, let alone the slightly slower R7 5700X3D.

[@robcooper3171]

@jtenorj I find that shocking R7 5700 any variant and 5800 any variant, are very solid chips, definitely Beasts compared to previous generations and mops the floor with the FX 8k's and 9k's.

[@jtenorj]

@@robcooper3171 Pretty sure any Ryzen 1000 series CPU would mop the floor with any FX CPU in gaming.

[@hayseedfarmboy]

this is second tech youtubers ive seen today covering this card

[@etrain6125]

Deep cool is fine (have some in my machine lol), maybe have a list of similar parts if people want to re create your bench.

[@hiimstacie1810]

hey i am a truck driver otr how would you go about building a pc for a truck it has to be durable and able to get rocked around a lot . i have a omen right now and it is ok but I have to tear it apart every other day because it just falls apart from vibration and everything else . i have been trying to figure out how to make it more durable and haven't figured out a solution yet

[@BREEZYM6015]

Should I upgrade from the GTX 1060 6GB to the 1070 or get a newer GPU?

[@nikola12nis]

Get a used 6600/6600xt, you can find it for $120-150usd.

[@evers6214]

I agree with the other reply. Rx6600 is a great upgrade from your current gpu. The 1070 isn’t gooder enough, so going to make you want to upgrade again in the near future

[@nikola12nis]

@@evers6214 Absolutely. And if money is such a big factor, I'd recommend doing one or two weeks of work, wherever you are on this planet, that should bag you enough money to make up for the price difference. No matter how young you are, it's a great experience, and you get to see what life is for other people.

[@patricktrous]

i think the 1650 evga sc ultra would stomp on it ,, but for the price thats a good deal but i can only use cards with 6 pin or pcie power only

[@SpoonHurler]

As a viewer I don't care about the Deepcool stuff but if I were advising someone on business hardware I would suggest to use parts they were sure they could get RMA or replaced quickly. So if you are comfortable on that end, you're fine.

[@djglxxii]

What's the problem with Deep Cool?

[@mraltoid19]

I got an RX-5500-8GB for $70 new from Ali....did they dry up or gain in value ?

[@Laner84]

what are the chances Both you guys and Random Gaming HD posted the same gpu video on the same day !

[@tardyz]

Bro this was my first GPU in 2020 and it definitely did the job and i enjoyed playing games with this GPU....

[@tardyz]

I had the simple Rx560 4gb one.

[@TrialbyFire]

What’s wrong with Deep Cool?

[@dtectatl1]

My only question Is why do you not have a 7800 X3D on your test bench?

[@RIP_Texpert]

The rx 580 2048 is 48 bucks on ali

[@danielhulan3058]

Use the deep cool stuff. One of my pcs has deepcool in it and I won't be changing anything. Just because the government says they can't sell here doesn't mean they can make us remove it. I mean having said that, now they probably will lol. Well until they do, use it. Otherwise it's ewaste

[@nicklem9846]

This thing has an ellesmere gpu, its a cutdown rx570 in shading proccesors, maybe it can be flashed to an actual 570. Interesting card

[@simonworthington7979]

Using Deepcool parts is fine. So long as you're not doing an ad for them or showing just released stuff I think it's ok. As said before no need to waste working PC parts.

[@Booth73]

Leave the deepcool stuff. Imo they did nothing truly wrong. Seems stupid to kill a company for selling to someone whos connected to russia possibly. But for me im gonna continue to use my deepcool stuff and love it

[@Shiggstream]

As far as the test bench issue: it's already built, no reason to change it.

[@siyabongarmaliba]

I have the following Specs. Amd Ryzen 5 4650 pro 2×8GB 3200mhz Ram 256GB m.2 ssd(upgrade pending) Can i game at medium settings with this specs? Anyone assist.

[@CasuallyHuman099]

It is just me or anyone noticing this card has similar with sapphire?

[@jsteezy80]

I just picked up a mint Sapphire Nitro RX 580 SE for $60 for my sons computer. Not super top end but coming from a GTX 580 it's quite an improvement

[@seangallagher515]

why did gvgmall take the paypal option out

[@Dean341]

Why throw away Deepcool parts? Because some people banned them coz they want to show they are big and strong and have care what so ever about the pc community... no pc KZbinr should get on the band wagon of the US government being butt hurt about something, its about the parts and the quality of it not the political aspect

[@lifespanofafry1534]

👏👏👏

[@rinkashimoto2121]

Keep the deepcool its only ban for sell, and its not illegal to use they said deepcool owner still can use their equipment

[@saladonbread3933]

Deep cool is a really good brand just give it time and they will be back in one way or another

[@gilross275]

I have already seen and considered buying it because it went as low as 60€ here in germany with all the reduction codes... because of the summer sales last month. But I went with A RX580 2048SP for 75€

[@Kanivalos80]

Mining RX4700 gets a new life

[@C0LPAN1C]

I’m selling my two RX 570 for 35$ a pop.

[@anthonyleclerc299]

Is it USD or CAD money?

[@DewittOralee]

I think this is a cheap card to get around the driver limitations of a 570. So you get the same performance as a 560 but continued driver support.

[@yellagaming6456]

DO A FULL ID COOLING BUILD THAT WOULD BE AMAZING PLUS THERE BUDGET FREINDLY

[@RuruFIN]

I think my last card with one output was a GF3 Ti 200.

[@Mykl1666]

What software do you use for your metrics overlay?

[@eaudeparfumman]

Msi afterburner I think

[@TheUrbanRebel]

I'm not surprised if that is as close to its cost price as it gets. Probably it should have not been remade since it's not worth it. Might as well go for the RX 580 for a few more dollars

[@DBLEB]

Keep the testbench, ain't gonna change anything if you junk it since you already bought it.

[@mi2595bs]

I see alot of people testing this exact graphics card that are overflowing youtube atm. My guess is that they choose the gfx card they send to you? xD

[@AvroBellow]

This thing costs $68USD??? I bought an RX 580 2048SP 8GB (called a "JXZ Jisoonzer") for $70CAD about nine months ago! In USD, that's about $52USD and the thing works perfectly. Who would be dumb enough to buy something slower for more money (without being an nVidia fanboy)?

[@pyroslev]

Test bench is built. It's average enough... most people who build a budget oriented system are not gonna rebuild a system due to an embargo or tariff blacklist. Keep it as it. (My kid's PCs are using a few DeepCool parts and I'm not changing anything.)

[@WolfsFriend42]

Having old DeepCool parts is ok. Buying new ones isn't.

[@TheRosemouth]

Why not?

[@WolfsFriend42]

@@TheRosemouth they are banned in the USA.

[@bhgpharmacy3540]

@@WolfsFriend42 doesn't mean its bad to buy lol

[@dante5469]

​@@WolfsFriend42 why?

[@Personalinfo404]

@@WolfsFriend42 alot of things are "banned" but banned doesnt inherently mean "bad"

[@doughnut8404]

Can you guys review the acer nitro v15 Rtx 4050 i5 13420h

[@robertanderson5735]

Random Gaming just did a video on this exact card also! Love the love.❤

[@KostjaJurs]

Can you deliver a pc to Latvia ???

[@bumbaclot813]

Wait, RX 560 XT? So does this still have driver support?.

[@jtenorj]

I believe Polaris based cards such as this still get official driver support from AMD for now. Incidentally, the specs of this card are quite close to another china exclusive card, the RX 470D. It also uses the Polaris architecture and has the same 1792 stream processor count(presumably the same number of texture units as well). Not sure if they use the same clocks.

[@bumbaclot813]

@jtenorj only reason I said is because I saw brand new rx 560 cards being sold at microcenter

[@STKDinstruction]

What is FSR?

[@jtenorj]

Fidelity Super Resolution. It's AMD's open source(works on Nvidia and Intel cards too) upscale tech, similar to Nvidia's DLSS(Deep Learning Super Sampling) but generally regarded to be not quite as good. What is does is it renders a game at lower res internally and then upscales it to the desired res, ideally providing both a boost in frame rate and hopefully not too much of a drop in quality. There are different modes like quality, balanced and performance. Quality doesn't go as low for the internal render(so better when brought back up) but doesn't increase performance as much. Balanced is what it say(goes a bit lower on the internal res making it look yet again not as good compared to quality but gives more FPS). Performance uses the lowest internal rendering res and looks the worst when bringing it back up but gives the best FPS of all the options. Intel has an upscaler too(XeSS) but I don't remember what the letters stand for for that one. FSR had a recent update which improved the quality of that upscaler, but still not quite up to Nvidia quality. Both AMD and Nvidia also provide frame generation tech(analyzes the last frame and next one, delays the next one and inserts an extrapolated frame. It boost the smoothness(like double the frame rate) but introduces a bit of latency too. It works best if a game is already running at a fairly decent clip to improve frames so one can better take advantage of a high refresh rate monitor. In a way it seems like it would be good for fast paced eSports titles but on the flip side it does introduce some latency. I'm not entirely sure what it's intended use case is. Maybe slower paced AAA games that can at least run somewhat over 30 FPS and frame gen can bump it up closer to 60 FPS like the refresh rate of lots of monitors out there? idk. It's worth noting the FSR frame generation is also open source(works on the last few generations of AMD and Nvidia hardware) but DLSS frame gen only works on current gen RTX 4000 cards. DLSS in general only works on RTX 2000, 3000 or 4000 cards but nothing earlier like still driver supported GTX 900 and 1000 series cards. FSR supports all those, plus Radeons back to Polaris(RX 400 and RX 500 cards).

[@cameronfrye5514]

Don't trash the DeepCool stuff. I always thought it was silly to destroy perfectly good stuff over something like this. If you want to make a point black out their logos or something, but we generate enough e-waste with this hobby as it is.

[@ClockOutClockIn]

I need a new gpu an ssd my pc is running slow an laggy when I play fivem

[@Gaspode-uj8jt]

Check out RandomGaminginHD's review of the SOYO AMD Radeon RX 560 XT. The two cards may as well be twins.

[@douglasmurphy3266]

The power draw is so close to having the perfect no external power crappy Dell upgrade card. An x16, 8GB VRAM GPU that doesn't even look problematically large in size. If they just power limited it down below 75W the subpar performance wouldn't matter for the people that would want to put it in their $100 salvage rig as a drop in solution.

[@alagon2047]

I still use deepcool stuff sadly always like the looks of their white with hint of blue sucks to see their practices.

[@Reunited20]

Hey just a suggestion do you guys mind to bench Valorant also? I know it could run but its fun to know how it perform on every pc like u guys did . Much appreciated .

[@randallsmith2521]

If it didn't require external power I would snap a few up. That's the deal breaker on this for me. If I'm going to have to provide external power anyway might as well get a used RX 470/570/480/580 or a 580 2048

[@WooGnar]

retitle to "The sanctioned test bench" 😂.

[@doesitgame]

New test bench. DeepCool decided $1M was worth more than access to the US market.

[@marvlouslie2053]

Yeah. I'd just build a new test bench.

[@guildpilotone]

I would avoid using Deep Cool. You're asking for flak everytime you mention them.

[@dlewis9760]

It's already paid for. Not using it means nothing. Sure, don't buy existing stock (I believe you still can) if that's important to you, but if you already have it, use it.

[@kumaSOevl]

for using deep cool products...its cool you guys keep using them. it aint that deep.

[@Acedemonlord]

But is it cool

[@kumaSOevl]

@@Acedemonlord it’s coolin

[@zarif3388]

I have used RX 470D, 560 XT, 590 GME and 590 last year and must say RX 470D and 560 XT suitable who have 400W PC

[@jayprosser7349]

I swear that is a Sapphire Pulse shroud fan and backplate

[@azuaraikrezeul1677]

soyo is the subcontractor for sapphire.

[@dxrkamby]

test bench is so much better than my pc

[@pweddy1]

This card should be compared against a 8600g. If you can beat it with integrated graphics, it’s probably not worthwhile unless you’re upgrading an office PC that you already have.

[@Banan021]

thats an sapphire pulse rx 570 repainted

[@voidokami1427]

I don't really care if the test bed is all deepcool. It kinda silly theyre ban in the US

[@augold1681]

It is selling for $91 now. Not even close to worth it.

[@snakeplissken1754]

Common... they could have charged that extra dollar for the meme value.

[@brandyboutwell9388]

i bought my deepcool ak500 zero dark right before the whole ban thing. i say keep the test pc like it is.

[@VultureUk-Rich]

Answer to the question asking do we keep using the same test bench Yes because other test benches may vary

[@douglpalmer9101]

Wrong deep cool sell as fast as the store gets them.they are great in the usa