why are people tired of emma chamberlain’s podcast?

[@clairobscur1413]

I think what most ppl mean when they say emma should go to college is that her mentality could really benefit from going outside the influencer bubble she's surrounded herself with and experience things out there in the 'real' world

[@3tarbutterfly]

She’s famous. She cannot have a regular school experience.

[@Shirumoon]

@@3tarbutterfly Maybe somewhere in Asia? She's not globally famous so there's a chance. Also there are entire online courses you can do from anywhere. She has the money for every possible option if she was interested.

[@LeonardoDiCapri-Sun]

I think it's also because college helps you a lot with research techniques and organising your points in an effective and coherent way. It's not about being condescending and saying Emma needs to be smarter, it's more so about improving the way she researches and expresses herself. That's the type of thing that college is excellent for.

[@julia4323]

@@3tarbutterflyi went to college with famous people and many sons/daughters of celebrities, in my experience people just mind their business in college classes and leave them be

[@olivia-jh4fd]

@@3tarbutterfly lots of celebrities actually are able to do college successfully, not exactly sure how but I know of lots of famous people who went to college after being famous and were able to graduate

[@cynthias1989]

as someone who dropped out of college, I think she should go because it seems like she really needs the mental stimulation. she talks a lot about being bored, and it seems like she needs people to banter with about these topics to give her perspective

[@msmiami212]

And elitism doesn’t apply here. I’d take all the suggestions positively in her shoes.

[@carolitoffana]

I was going to say that, I went to college and it changed me 120%, I don't think is a bad thing to say this to her giving the fact that she can afford to study, it's not like sis is gonna get a loan to pay her tuition. College makes you different in so many different ways, that's why so many Hollywood celebrities still goes to college even thought they already have a career.

[@liswane]

I mean, any course on whatever she's interested in could help her with mental stimulation. like, she could take a drumming course with other people and get to interact with others. not everyone needs college.

[@dj_isnt_scared]

college who, girlie left high school... which was my immediate thought after seeing the title bc thats way she seems so out of touch, shes not really educated and yeah, i hope she earned enough money to continue where she stopped, at age 16,5

[@passengerprincesspodcast]

This! Also seems like she has so many thoughts that could benefit from her learning how to coherently organize and present them. I think she’s naturally intelligent. Most people go to college these days, but Emma seems to have a temperament that really thrives in higher ed.

[@PipPip]

I think the sentiment “to go to college” to make her podcast better is meant more for her thoughts to be challenged and interact with her peers to know what she could add to the conversation - it’s not necessarily about her intelligence. She’s in an echo chamber of her own brain. Her podcast adds nothing but the general knowledge of a topic topic, but presenting it as deeper. Before it sounded like a sleepover with a bestie, and now it sounds like you’re talking to your out of touch friend who you get coffee with every so often

[@avadiedrich2748]

the sleepover metaphor thing is so accurate

[@britznicks]

This is so real, wtaf hahahahaha

[@ab__5464]

i think i entirely missed the sleepover w bestie phase, this is the same vibe i’ve got consistently from her tbh 😭 i used to think i was crazy

[@calistafalcontail]

Intelligence and education is not the same thing. You can be of average intelligence and have good education, just as you can have a high IQ (intelligence) by nature but no education.

[@strippermilk360]

i fully agree

[@sophiemilne9889]

It sounds like she started a podcast just because she wanted to have a podcast, rather than because she had anything interesting to say

[@lolz1421]

what if she thought that she had something important to say and had the courage to put it out there. Maybe she thought it was interesting her audience just didn't I just wonder if she's making this content for herself or for a specific audience

[@msmiami212]

You’d do it too for a check! 😂

[@frenchgirl5878]

@msmiami212 fr, these people don’t realise how podcasting is a money making machine. Even if THEY don’t want to listen to Emma there will still be dozens of middle schoolers who will hang onto her every word and that is enough,

[@Sue-vu1pk]

most podcasters dont have anything interesting to say and just ramble on for 3 hours

[@bubiiz]

anything goes was pretty popular back when she was still working with rambles because she didn't necessarily talk about "philosophical" discussions nd instead focusing on talking about her growth, her interests nd her personal life. there's also episodes where she'd read questions asking for advice and give her own opinion about the situation. the reason why this was so big was because it felt more personal and it felt like we were getting to know emma more. i think this was lost after she started drifting away from this and started to focus on how *big* this podcast can be. it's lost its personality & that's why i think alot of people enjoy it less now .. (other than claims that the video states) so i doubt that emma just wanted to start a podcast for the sake of it. maybe when she first started it wasn't going well but she began to try another kind of podcast (anything goes) that she and her audience actually enjoy

[@グーブラ]

It’s so wild to hear what she said about the honeymoon phase as someone who has been in a relationship for six years. The honeymoon phase is not pretending, it’s the giddy excitement of when your crush likes you back. But just because it’s been six years doesn’t mean I’m bored or pretending-I’m in the relaxed and peaceful state of being accustomed to loving and being loved…

[@kianna270]

Exactly. I didn’t agree with her take much either. Especially when she said it was delusion. Maybe for some circumstances, but really, the honeymoon phase is just a new exciting phase of love. Just bc you get use to your partner and that excitement eventually calms down,, doesn’t mean it’s a “delusion”.

[@corinanedelea7924]

You put that into words so beautifully! Thank you for restoring my faith in love and relationships! I really needed it!

[@la6136]

Are you married after 6 years of being in a relationship? Girl, men don't need that long to figure out if they want to marry you for life. I know you won't listen but men don't wait more than 1-2 years to marry a woman they really want. You might not be bored but he is dragging you along.

[@グーブラ]

@@la6136 I’m 22 😭 we started dating when we were 16 LMAO Edit: also, not a man 🧍‍♂️

[@kianna270]

@@la6136 dude chill out you don’t know every man on the face of this earth. You’re making a huge generalization. Some people are happy and don’t need to get married to prove that.

[@elizabethkiefer2626]

I always thought the whole college criticism was more about how she needs to mingle with other people her age in an academic setting so she can dig deeper than what everyone already thinks.

[@cyberstuffwatevaqt3955]

Yess! I never thought it was about the degree I think Emma Chamb. just needs to find a place where she can learn to critically think around others her age. I get why some people like her live in an echo chamber because she’s in an environment where everyone round her is rich and privileged. She isn’t “stupid” she’s just unaware.

[@ceci1017]

Exactly this

[@arigonzalez5814]

CD

[@laurenvcouto]

Exactly

[@cesintheskywithdiamonds]

I think everyone and their mom wants to have a podcast these days and I don’t think everyone has what it takes to host a great podcast. Hopefully she takes in the constructive criticism and makes an improvement. I do miss her KZbin videos, particularly the ones she created 1-2 years ago. They we very mellow and artistic. Maybe she lost interest or prefers to sit back and talk on a podcast as opposed to picking up a camera and editing the way she used to.

[@bendergirlfriend]

she didn't even edit her videos before she quit for at least like 2 years lmao

[@KourttneyL]

She’s so freaking boring.

[@abbyz13]

if you listened to her podcast at the beginning, i think she lost her passion for editing due to it being linked to her job so the podcast was a breath of fresh air. it was SO good at first so i’m sad to hear it’s gotten stale. i hope she finds her passion again bc she is really a strong creative voice

[@m.o5502]

If I remember correctly, she said on one of the episodes that she partly stopped making the videos because it was unsafe for her to keep filming herself all the time. Plus I'm pretty sure she probably got tired of making the videos as she got older

[@masturblades]

yeah videos translate much better than podcasts for her

[@PocketMirror]

Totally agreed. I'd much rather hear stories of her crazy life as a famous influencer than her trying to stay "relatable". I feel like the only way she can regain that cool girl aura is to bring us back into her life authentically and without pretense, like she did at the start.

[@SweetPotato3507]

She’s mentioned multiple times that it became unsafe for her to be filming and sharing her personal life. That’s why she doesn’t seem relatable and stopped making YT videos.

[@thelifeofbadger]

More than college, a big thing it seems she could benefit from is just hearing a variety of perspectives and socializing with all types of people.. or at least have people she could bounce ideas off of. College isn’t necessary for this obviously, but it certainly helps people meet others who can provide that type of interaction. I think that’s what so many people making that argument are missing

[@stellameii]

Yes. I feel like she only "knows" her own opinion.

[@malwizzy]

I used to love her podcasts bc I appreciated it when she give advice or talk about something then back it up with experience, it felt more real and comforting. I don’t listen to her podcasts anymore bc I have developed as a person and I don’t find them as educational like before. I think it just depends on the audience and the maturity levels among people. Emma is more famous than before and mainly surrounds herself with other successful rich people which plays a role as her perspective on certain subjects do feel out of touch almost.

[@jocelinireads]

i do think half of her podcast audience has outgrown her. emma’s podcast would definitely do better if she discussed how her experiences shapes her opinions on these “philosophical” topics. i don’t think viewers get much out of it when she doesn’t share much about herself!

[@dianarochel6981]

I completely agree with you, her podcast used to be entertaining but now they are just boring & out of touch. I love her but her podcasts are not it at the moment. I do think she has a potential to make her podcast better by research, bringing guests on, having different opinions etc and that would allow her to be more relatable to her audience, now that most are college graduates and adults in general. Emma should 100% write an outline and organize her thoughts before doing an episode, it would be a great start. Also, loved your video, keep doing long commentary if you wish of course! ❤

[@HeatherRising]

I'm a 32 year old doctoral student with a masters in marriage and family therapy and I still enjoy listening to Emma's podcast. Yes, she's a decade younger than me and I hear that youth in many of her thoughts and ways of analyzing things. But there are also many times she really hits the mark IMO. I also like how she comes to realizations as she's speaking because it feels very genuine. In the happiness is complicated episode, as she was talking, she came to a very important realization that many family therapy theorists would agree with, that happiness is not and should not be the goal. I was so proud of her for sharing that on such a huge platform as it's something I impart to my clients. I also think it's great that she defines seemingly basic words, because it is so important to be on the same page about a definition of a word used to communicate deeper topics. It is very common that many simple words are used to convey similar but just different enough ideas and concepts. "Happiness" is one of those words. In conclusion, no she doesn't go super deep and it would be nice if she did. Yes, she would benefit from continuing to do more interview episodes (I loved the one she did with the psychologist, surprise surprise). Yes, she would benefit from including academic research. And yes, I agree that she does NOT need to go to college to continue to improve her podcast. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on that criticism she's receiving.

[@PrettyLittleChanell]

above all else, if you're in emma's financial position, college is a good place to learn things in a structured manner and meet like-minded people

[@mitzara25]

I feel like even if she went to college it still wouldn't be a real experience because she is famous and we all know how fake people are especially in the USA where being famous and clout is really important

[@curiositykilledthekat]

@@mitzara25 emma watson went to college, malala went to college, all insanely famous and recognizable people. it'd be interesting to everyone for the first few weeks then they'd get over it tbh ultimately she'd get an authentic experience

[@valeriarey8055]

I think the whole “Emma needs to enroll in college” comment derives from the concern that she is in a echo chamber/influencer bubble, not that she is unintelligent. College is the closest thing young adults have to connect and form a close community with diverse peers, hence why it is recommended to her. I genuinely think she would gain a lot of insight by being in a seminar with regular people (or just conversing with different ideas).

[@Dom-ld7ii]

I think for some of the people dishing out the "she needs to go to college" statements they mean she needs to experience more things that go against her grain or make her uncomfortable. Some videos I've seen said things like" I had these realizations at 6". I think that person's environment allowed them to have that realization at 6 and hers has her realizing it now. Because like you said, she's in an eco chamber. College will force you to get out of that real quick. When you are in an environment where you have to interact with so many different people with their own worldviews and beliefs your beliefs get challenged and I think naturally it leads to analyzing things deeper because you have the practice. But when your mind is essentially sheltered from anything you don't want it to be exposed to I guess it's harder and a bit out of practice. I don't think she needs to go to collage btw. I'm just a girl.

[@pinkchildrensglue]

on the college / growing up point I feel like even as a high school senior rn I've really grown out of her advice; it's all stuff I've formed my own experiences with & figured out on my own

[@michaelgranados7923]

tbh i think yall r being dramatic

[@ckfio20422]

people wouldn’t suggest she get educated if she didn’t insist on talking about academic, scientific stuff. If she’d like to continue, get educated. She lacks so much self awareness its crazy. She was relatable at 16 when she was like other 16 year olds- its just weird now

[@Cheer4SK]

I agree, anyone can learn critical analysis and oral presentation, without or without college. But the root issue tracks back to her old KZbin career. She used to say, “I feel like I’ve said everything I can say. I’ve told all my stories, etc.” Then she took a long break from making vlogs and when she came back her videos no longer centered around her life and personality (but rather her traveling). I think the podcast was an easy-going, low-pressure way to re-enter the content space and naming it “Anything Goes” managed audience expectations and gave plenty of leeway to produce stream-of-consciousness style podcasts. Which was fine, because most of the listeners were engaged because they love her personality and are loyal. However, you cannot do anything consistently, over a long period of time, without structure/planning/support. She doesn’t have a producer in the room with her-she’s been pretty candid about recording in her bed, on the closet floor, by herself. It’s clear her episodes don’t have a set format. There’s no opening/closer, no segments, very few guests (if any), and no engagement with the audience (I know she asks people for their opinions on Twitter, but it’s not as though she quotes fans in the pod or features their questions). More than she needs to spend four years at a university, she may need to admit to herself that she’s not super interested in making content anymore and that’s okay. She’s been doing it since she was literally a kid and if she wants to explore a completely different avenue (which might be college, but could just as easily be more travel, humanitarian work, focusing on her business, fashion, starting a family, etc.) then she’s not letting anybody down. Or, if she’s intent on making the podcast work, invest in a team that’ll provide structure/support and really figure out what it is her listeners want to hear.

[@KrystinPritchard]

I just wanna say this critique right here is 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@curiositykilledthekat]

"you cannot do anything consistently, over a long period of time, without structure/planning/support" this!!

[@MeowzaKitzy]

I think Emma is very emotionally intelligent, and has great ideas, I think she just doesn’t know how to voice them in a structured way without any editing. Podcasts aren’t for everyone, and I think she really shined in her videos because she didn’t have to just post a stream of consciousness, she could just post the best bits that were relatable to everyone.

[@isaisa967]

I think what people meant by telling her to go to college is that it’ll give her a new goal in her life. She constantly talks about being bored and already having her success but knowledgeable is truly endless. I just think it would be better for her yk

[@madisoncallaghan]

What’s crazy to me is that if she spent $20k on cosmetic surgery to make herself happy, most people would support that (or like me, not care) but there’s a lot of pushback when some of us encourage her to spend $ investing in her education when she obviously wants to learn.

[@tahinaschwegler8112]

?? where did she say she did & what procedure

[@VeeraMirjam]

I havent been following Emma Chamberlain in the recent years as much because I find her content triggering ED vibes but anyways I find it interesting that she had a podcast that flopped and then after having a successful podcast she seems to be going back to the failed concept :'D But in general I think the bigger problem might be that her audience is growing and maturing so they are losing interest, maybe her target group is still teenagers even when she is getting older and she can stay popular if new audiences of young people keep finding her relatable.

[@janajohannaa]

omg im in ed recovery and i agree so much

[@paulinaa9205]

could you elaborate more on the part of her content being triggering ed vibes, please? if you feel comfortable ofc, it's just that i've never followed emma much so i'm curious

[@miichelle19]

You know whats crazy? When I stopped watching her years ago and reflected on her content, I had the same thoughts. And for a long time, I thought she had an ED, but I never said anything cause it’s rude to assume…

[@MeowzaKitzy]

@@miichelle19she’s admitted to having struggled with an eating disorder in the past. I think a big portion of her content that was triggering for me in the past when I watched her is just seeing how little she would eat during the day, her doing mini body checks throughout her videos, and how she would talk about food. She also would mention that she never cared much about how she looked in terms of hair or makeup, but she cared deeply about the state of her body, because that’s what made her feel pretty. Emma likely is still struggling but it’s harder to see now since she doesn’t post videos.

[@goblinfolk]

as someone who actually listened to some of stupid genius and all of anything goes i agree, based on the latest episodes, all of this criticisms is valid. emphasis on latest episodes i think the spotify deal is a huge factor in the decline of quality. anything goes was a weekly podcast before that and it actually had university articles quoted while discussing subjects. now there are releases every 3/4 days which is double the amount factoring in her heavier involvement in fashion, break up, traveling and simultaneously filming all of these (none of them are seemingly pre-recorded) naturally she has barely any time to do any prep. i’m surprised the topics are somewhat good high demand + big company = overproduction so basically capitalism is yet again the issue

[@brendaholland362]

So true, she is a human and she no doubt has a lot going on.

[@caitlingill]

Wait what? Did Emma and Role Model break up?

[@Yocyndie]

@@caitlingillword on the street

[@3llielou]

totally agree!! i think some of the people saying ‘emma needs to go to college’ are coming from a place where they want to feel above? her? in a way. like she is so successful and when someone has this opportunity to go to college when she hasn’t, it feels like having a leg up on her. there isn’t much thought behind the whole statement either-like how you said some better criticism would be to use an outline or do more research on a topic before speaking about it. i think yes, sometimes influencers can start thinking they’re more qualified at giving advice or thoughts on a topic than they actually are, but that doesn’t mean they’re dumb. i think if she took steps to make her podcast more eloquent, she would sound as smart as she actually is and avoid the criticism of her being ‘surface-level’ or ‘small-minded’.

[@nina_sayers]

i would (respectfully ofc!) disagree. i am a college dropout (it just wasnt for me) but i still firmly believe she would really benefit from time in college classes. if you watch the full tiktoks of the clips used earlier in the video you'll see there really isnt the elitist energy you mentioned, just wanting emma to see her full potential. the ways in which she could make her podcast better (outlining, doing prior research) are skills learned and honed in college, hence where this sentiment is coming from: she could benefit from the tools college provides. i dont think anyone is framing emma as dumb, shes clearly a smart girl. she has been out of the schooling system for the better part of a decade but she's *clearly* got a "yearning for learning" mindset that everyone in this discussion can agree on. THATS where this suggestion comes up. i think people are really just recognizing that many of the topics she touches on are genuinely very surface level (whether it sounds rude or not, its true) and that bouncing these ideas around with other educated people her/our age might help her come to the realization that there's more complex and interesting thoughts and themes underneath, that we'd LOVE to hear her thoughts on! there is nothing wrong with encouraging others to expand their education, i know many people are upset by the idea because college as a whole is a very touchy topic, understandably so. i respect that it is not for everyone, however if this many people are independently saying that it might be a good idea for her, then maybe its worth discussing, and maybe it's not all from a place of jealousy and/or arrogance. emma's smart. we see that. we want her to cultivate that because we care. we see how its provided academic sustenance for others like her. she seems stagnant or like she's hit a wall, so we're suggesting this as an option for how emma can best achieve the philosophical podcast she clearly desires. emma needs to go not for us, not for the podcast, but for herself. i hope you can consider this point of view, because this is really what the argument boils down to! have a good day

[@nina_sayers]

@@anais9263 hey, this comment feels a little disingenuous, you've got to recognize that youtube tutorials and google searches cannot provide what real life experiences provide. the practicality of life cannot be learned on the internet. and do you think emma hasnt already done google searches about her topics? or read books about them? she absolutely has! it seems like emma is so desperately is craving a socratic seminar, unfortunately she just doesnt know what that is yet... which is where the suggestion for continued education comes from. there are certain things only learned and earned through *community* education. emma practices a lot of "ideating" and college is a place to learn how to fully form her thoughts into real presentable ideas - learned through professors with decades of skill and peers that have different life experiences from her own. it seems like the route she's taking with her podcast is exactly that: presenting and exploring ideas. emma clearly wants more out of life than can be found online, most of us do. she's touched almost every mountaintop, so higher education might be her final frontier. i hope you can consider this perspective. education is not the enemy! anti-intellectualism is!

[@3llielou]

@@nina_sayers those are good points and i think that’s where the original argument was coming from. i think i was thinking more of the people who latched onto that initial idea and used it as a way to feel above her or encompass the idea that she can sound uneducated in her podcast episodes.

[@nina_sayers]

@@3llielou that's certainly valid! there's unfortunately always going to be a few bad apples. i'm just offering the perspective that the vast majority of those expressing the idea of wanting her to go to college have emma's best interest in mind... even if its selfishly to make the podcast they listen to a little more enjoyable! thanks for understanding :)

[@yeti9369]

@@nina_sayersno one’s reading all that 😂

[@abigailyounger4127]

Hi, I loved the video! In regards the college comment, I don't believe people are insulting Emma's intelligence, I think a lot of people (including myself) believe that college helps a person to better communicate their thoughts. Like you mentioned, Emma tends to talk in circles and something that college taught me is how to have a constructive and cohesive conversation that reaches an answer or concrete conclusion. So I think even just a writing 101 course would help Emma to be able to communicate her thoughts and feelings more effectively.

[@chloepeterson1854]

Just had my seven year wedding anniversary, I don’t think we’ve ever left the honeymoon phase. ITS OUT THERE GUYS! Love ❤️

[@mitzara25]

Congrats! Hope we all find something like that one day! 😍🥰

[@allihagen1180]

I also noticed from her podcast that she made a large effort to always stay neutral. We never saw her state strong opinions whether emotional or not. All of her points seemed just neutral to me...

[@IsabellaReardonRamos]

I kinda agree with you about the "go to college" thing. Even if people are well-intentioned when they say it, college does not inherently translate to wisdom or life experience. It actually really feels out-of-touch and crummy to say "go to college" to a total stranger. Glad you pointed this out!

[@ishamachadobracamonte4772]

I agreed with the sentiment of her needing to go to college because I though it was more about her getting to be in an environment were she would be confronted with a bunch of different realities and perspectives in an organic way, not just people she happens to meet and who tell her their life story and that's it. In superior education (not just college), the main thing is that everyone is an adult to an extent and they are all in that place voluntarily (hopefully) and getting ready for their future life. She would get to actually see many realities on the daily, not only when she decides to go out. Also, I genuinely didn't think this was about her being uneducated or dumb, more so that she has been isolating for a while and it shows. And I don't think it is elitist when the recommendation is going to someone that obviously has the resources and there are free options as well. Maybe the argument should use "superior education" instead of college because it is more all encompassing, like if she wanted to go to art school or a fashion program to further her knowledge in topics she's interested in. Anyway, very nice topic and video, a lot to think about :)

[@goosethecowboymoose]

people telling someone to go to college because they're out of touch is also out of touch as hell. a lot of people are just as ignorant of the world when they graduate as they were when they applied.

[@Angers98]

I think the college critique is fair and I hope people aren't saying it pretentiously. University gives you the tools to analyze, discuss, and understand topics as well as how to communicate your findings. Sure you can learn all of this outside of higher education, but separate from all of the socializing and networking you do there, just learning how to think and talk and write is huge. I have friends who didn't go to collee (love them to bits) and I can tell in certain conversations that they're missing certain skills to debate or critically analyze complex topics (I also know people who went to college who are very dumb so this is not a black and white thing). TLDR: college is a great experience and everyone deserves the chance to go & learn!!

[@tiaslays255]

Can you give examples?

[@WinterWind]

@@tiaslays255 not OP but I'll give an example. College isn't about regurgitating unsubstantiated opinions, it's about locating information to support one perspective, then information that opposes that perspective, and weighing the two against each other to form a nuanced perspective. You learn to critically read sources and note their biases or shortcomings. For example, the topic of divorce rates is one that isn't just related to love, it's about the entire context which includes societal norms, economic, legal, and religious allowances. It isn't accurate to talk about divorce rates without also considering marriage rates and ability for adult individuals (especially women) to live alone. Only a few decades ago women couldn't hold bank accounts without their husband or father's permission, so people stayed in marriages as they didn't have options. It's probably fine to hold opinions on things without investigating them deeper but it's not unchallengable.

[@alangarcia3531]

​@@WinterWindThe reason for divorce is to stop feeling love, the only difference is that now it is easier to get divorced if they judge you.

[@Nopenonameok]

Dang, I hope your friends don’t see this lol. I feel for them.

[@erosmoonlore3585]

she's still in her very early twenties and is a social media influencer/ model... idk if she really has time to go to college or if she even wants to? i feel like we gotta stop projecting our own ideas of what someone should be doing on to them, and perhaps find another source of entertainment/ education. imagine hundreds of people being like "you're out of touch, sweetie"... and "omg you're so surface level 😂😂😂" like yikes, thats just glorified bullying at this point frfr she has loving parents who im sure will help guide her in a gentle and thoughtful way without interfering in her own autonomy as she deserves just like the rest of us.

[@GooseCee]

"I don't think I'll be doing anymore commentary videos" It's funny that you say this because you're VERY good at this! Imo 99% of commentary channels are SOOO BORING and as a guy you managed to keep me entertained the whole way!

[@hairiseverything]

I second this! Found it very engaging, and am not usually one to watch these either!

[@useruser20802]

When are people going to realize that if you don’t find something enjoyable, you simply don’t have to watch it. That’s the beauty of the internet. She isn’t doing anything to hurt anyone or something bad so why do we all feel the need to critique it?

[@useruser20802]

This is coming from someone who also used to enjoy the podcast but now it has just become boring, but that doesn’t mean I should devote my time and energy into expressing why I don’t like it. You simply move on to the next thing…

[@calliekalel4160]

@@useruser20802I understand where your coming from but I think critiquing entertainment/ giving ur opinion on it is completely valid and fine! The only thing I would have issue with is if the commentary on it was hateful which I don’t believe this video is.

[@calliekalel4160]

@@useruser20802also voicing criticisms in a constructive way can actually help the person who’s content your criticizing and get a sense of why your audience is shrinking/growing. It’s there for her if she wants to take it 🤷‍♀️

[@KittyKalitaASMR]

I would listen to YOUR podcast. Please make more long form videos like this discussing internet culture. This was very insightful.

[@tesla2673]

I think this is a great video and i agree with a lot of what you’re saying! i think the thought “emma needs to go to college” is geared toward the life experience and growth people tend to experience that it seems like she’s lacking, not that she requires a degree to talk about anything.

[@reetta4509]

I appreciate how your critique was mindful and towards the podcast instead of Emma and her intelligence. I used to listen to Emma's podcast but I stopped doing so about six months ago. I liked her old episodes because her personality really shined through, her newer episodes feel so much more distant from herself. I think she is entitled to make the podcast exactly like she wants but maybe this is just not what all of her listeners were hoping to get if they, like me, started listening her podcast for her

[@rebeccadodd2816]

she does have other guests and does back her thoughts up with evidence and research. I feel her podcasts aren't for everyone, her education level is suited for many people but not everyone.

[@pjandbooks7834]

I feel like the college comments more so mean that Emma could benefit from the academic experience of being able to spit ball ideas and have them critiqued by peers in a not so public setting like a podcast.

[@csandromeda]

I love this video so much, you hit so many points that not many people explain why her podcast is slowly becoming kind of boring and out of touch and I agree with the statement and overall whole argument that she doesn’t need to go to college. I don’t know if it’s just me, but I’m a senior in college and just because you go to college doesn’t make you smart, I’ve seen a lot of unintelligent people at my university because they were told they needed a degree and trust me, the college classes aren’t helping them with critical thinking skills. Whole heartedly I think a good direction for her at this point especially if she is sticking with the whole philosophical route and I hate saying it but to watch some TED talks. As much as I hated watching them in high school and a little bit in college they definitely helped me create some critical thinking skills that I highly lacked. I also think bringing in other people’s opinions could really help her think more philosophical, especially those who harbor different opinions. Thank you for actually explaining why her podcast is slowly failing because it’s so frustrating hearing people say, “home girl just needs to go to college” because honestly that’s the last thing she needs to do, lol.

[@katgreer6113]

Reading certain books can also help. Or reading in general, for the most part. I searched it up, and apparently reading helps create empathy in people and can help provide a different point of view on topics for readers.

[@csandromeda]

@@katgreer6113 Oh yeah for sure! I just know Emma has never been one for the whole school setting and I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure she stated when she was still doing her school vlogs that she hates reading, but obviously that definitely could of changed. Just starting out though especially when she’s never really excelled in the school setting I think watching videos could be more beneficial starting out :)

[@papacrack]

...I think that's its a little patronizing to tell someone to learn by watching Ted talks. At best all you would get from that is someone else's interpretation of any particular idea or concept. A lot of Ted talks are terrible as well, I think the point of the whole "go to college" thing is that going to college offers you the opportunity to become better at discerning the quality of the information you are processing. You learn about how to think in a systematic way that allows you to have a particular perspective about things that you may not have otherwise had prior to your college education. It's not to say that perspective is superior but it can have certain benefits. Obviously tons of people go to college and aren't able to really work within the relatively rigid way in which college teaches you to think, and it doesn't make you dumb if you're that type of person, it just means college isn't for you and that is also completely fine. There's a million ways to learn about the world and understand more complex concepts but I think that it's pretty clear that Emma just doesn't have the ability for the higher order analysis required to take on heady topics because why would she? Her brand is relatable teen who's cooler than you. That's not exactly the person I want to hear explaining scientific facts to me. It doesn't make any sense

[@chichilafemme6336]

I think that while I agree college doesn’t make you smarter, it forces you to interact with so many people and different opinions that you would have to try very hard to be purposefully obtuse. In terms of you aren’t in this echo chamber. Ofc this isn’t true for every university, some universities especially the more expensive ones have a very specific demographic but I went into college and I feel like a benefit was not being in this echo chamber, I came across different people different opinions and it helped me not only be more open minded but able to better articulate my side. That being said u don’t need to go to college to get those experiences it’s just the easiest way. But I agree it does not make you smarter or have better critical thinking skills, especially in America. There are some DUMB people out there with full on degrees. The benefits of college outside of the degree, you have to actually try and seek them out.

[@ischristinaok]

i think what a lot of people mean by emma needs to go to college is that emma is basically in an influence bubble surrounded by a bunch of other people her age who are just influencers, musicians, and actors. and she has all these thoughts and stuff in her head but can only really see them through the lens of an out of touch influencers. so i think college would help her a lot bc she’d get to explore these thoughts and discuss them with people other than influencers or celebrities

[@rndmusrnm2763]

14:44 I agree. I think the conversation quickly went from 'Oh her podcast discussions seem surface-level' into 'lol Emma's realizing stuff I've known since i was two.' The latter doesnt offer any constructive criticism, it's just insulting.

[@nanayaaadu49]

I actually think Emma made so many good points in the ‘Is romantic love real?’ podcast episode because romance and love are conflated in media and pop culture. Love and long term relationships are incredibly difficult and require the individual to be intentional in their journey of cutting ties with or contending with the ego. Also I think it is misleading to suggest she didn’t include any research in that episode apart from the divorce statistic. Because you’re essentially discrediting the fact she drew on the Buddhist conception of love as it reflects her ideas and beliefs surrounding ego and sacrifice and selfishness. This whole video completely glosses over the fact that Emma’s points and discussion points reflect larger spiritual questions she is seemingly grappling with and it’s interesting to observe because a lot of speakers and podcasters who touch on spirituality do so in their capacity as “experts” and not people who are explorers and figuring it out. Emma doesn’t come across as someone who claims to have the answers and that’s actually refreshing in a podcast landscape where everyone is claiming to know best and be correct.

[@abyblue7287]

I’m reading all these comments and I’m wondering what colleges y’all went to that “encourage critical thinking” and how to “have cohesive thoughts”😂… I’m pretty sure I learnt all that (the little I know) through the internet and I spent 7 years at uni. Having different people with different perspectives around you- hell, they don’t even need to be around you. Just diversify the content you consume, -would solve all these issues everyone is saying she needs college for. I’m sorry but college won’t do shit ‘cause she’ll still be rich and famous and could even still remain in her bubble while attending school. I really don’t think college would be as helpful as y’all are making it out to be in this scenario

[@lrose.33]

this!!! I learned about critical thinking from bobo and flex, not college hahha

[@ЕкатеринаШуман-ч1ф]

I think I would disagree on option that her podcasts are boring and not on a deep level and that giving a definition of words is useless. I find her episodes very interesting and entertaining. I just discovered her as a person and her podcasts a month ago and I was surprised how mature she is for her age of 22. I am 24 and I have a degree in philosophy and even though I find her ideas very gripping. Also, giving a definition is very important and every philosopher starts their works with that to avoid misunderstanding, because even basic concepts have different explanations.

[@amparo3987]

I think the same, pretty mature for a 22 y/o

[@internetstranger-]

So now people are obsessed with college once again?

[@ro5572]

Idk if she has always done this but i feel like maybe another factor that could potentially play into why her episodes appear less interesting is that she uploads twice a week and is expected to offer deep and intricate thought about various topics that she is in most cases not educated on to the fullest. Thank you for being so constructive with your criticism i think it‘s great

[@thefruityghost]

THANK YOU for making this video. I’ve been a long time Emma podcast supporter even since Stupid Genius (although Anything Goes is clearly an upgrade) I only recently ~maybe two weeks ago~ started to feel that the quality was declining. A big issue I wish you had touched upon is her recent upload schedule change to Thursday AND Sunday, as opposed to just Thursday. It felt that with twice as many videos being uploaded a week that Emma was overall less invested in any given topic. Another thing. In the beginning of Anything Goes, Emma used to have a segment at the end of each video which was basically a Q&A with her audience to get some of their questions or perspectives and share more about her self in response. I think if she had kept this format, or something along similar lines it could address the problems you have pointed out in her recent episodes. Personally I don’t think she needs to go to college, she has a thriving business and plenty of money. She could maybe take a couple master classes or something if she really wanted to. But all in all I do find her relatable. The main reason I’ve enjoyed her podcast is because it just feels like a conversation I would have with a friend. In fact while I’ve been IN COLLEGE myself. I’ve found it incredibly comforting listening to her podcast while doing laundry or walking around campus. It’s stress free and ponderous. I think a lot of people have forgotten that “Anything Goes” literally explains what to expect in the title. It’s not going to be a formulaic structured podcast, it’s just gonna be Emma talking about whatever’s on her mind.

[@ifonlyicould]

I really liked her podcasts on vaping and quitting vaping. It's been one of the few personal episodes she's done lately but it was still highlighting the important issue of vaping and nicotine addition (big young people problem).

[@maxwellbossong4706]

i think a large portion of her fan base is just tired of her doing podcasts all together. i know i’ve seen so many people who just simply want her to make videos again and while it’s fine if she doesn’t want to do that, i hope she’s fine with also losing a large part of her audience.

[@laurenstanley2277]

Yep, I loved her videos because they were very entertaining visually, I don't really care to hear her views on all kinds of different things solely. Not that there is anything wrong with it, I'd just rather see videos from her

[@lydipie]

I've only listened to a few of her podcasts. I thought they probably weren't educational or entertaining enough to binge.... but good for an occasional listen. All the sudden criticism of her is a bit much, but I think the college point is actually a valid one. It seems like one of Emma's main problems is that her convictions aren't being questioned by people around her. A big benefit of going to college is the opportunity to meet people from all over, who hold a lot of different stances, and are often willing to have in-depth discussions about philosophical, political, or religious topics. For many of us who were raised in ideological echo chambers, college is the first time we gave serious thought to the worldview we were raised in. Because Emma has lived in the same context for since childhood, her opinions are almost inextricable from the L.A. influencer upper class. She states some of her most controversial opinions as if they're facts, because they might be facts to the very small subset of people who have influenced her. You talked about her (sorta wacky) belief that romantic love is basically a hoax. Another example is an episode of hers that I listened to about karma. She says that she doesn't buy into any religious system; the only spiritual concept she holds to is karma. As a very religious person myself, I couldn't just slide past such a hand-wavy dismissaI of the metaphysical. I wanted her to give an explanation of why she feels like that is the only thing out there! Why karma? If karma is all there is for her, then who created the system of karma? What is the defining difference between good and bad karma? That's the kind of discussion that I'd expect on a philosophical podcast 🤷‍♀ But, instead of going into any of that, she just moved straight into a ramble about personal experience with karma. Something tells me that she wouldn't have answers to my questions, because she's rarely had her core beliefs questioned. btw, you're really well spoken, and I'm glad the algorithm decided I would like this video! I'm headed to check out your other stuff now that I'm done typing my rant :)

[@Meimoons]

As someone who has no idea who she is, what is she even passionate about? What are her hobbies? What are her experiences beyond social media and the influence she has surrounded herself in? She needs more life experience outside of social media because she’s so lost in what she wants, if she’s going around in circles at this point.

[@ceci1017]

I believe thats why people keep saying she should go to college. She will really benefit from that

[@crybbyjaimie]

you answered your own question babe, you have no idea who she is😭 so why even comment this, y’all just yap my god

[@bluebirdx]

Its about how you say things, i dont really think the college thing is that dismissive or insulting, its more about exposure than for education, or at least i see it that way, I've lived that with my bf cause I do am finishing college and he haven't got the chance to starting it, when we discuss topics i sometimes feel he thinks that things are more universal and true for all people that they are, because we both are in the same echo chamber of some type of beliefs and perspectives about life and politics but when you are force to deal and see much more diverse people you realize how things aren't really that black and white at all

[@spacebar9733]

Exactly !!

[@sophiajain5]

Her podcast was the only one I could bear to listen to for a while but at some point I lost interest. I ultimately started my own podcast (it's called "life on audio" if anyone is looking to pivot their podcast preferences) and I feel like I share a lot of elements with her podcast but it's so much more real since it's coming from someone who's in college and trying to figure out life like most people my age are.

[@kennedyhill8224]

Okay, I’ve been meaning to get into more podcasts so I might have to go an give this one a listen!! 😊

[@simplyboppingK]

I'll give it a listen!!

[@Z5Z5Z5]

congratz welcome to the rest of us hahha

[@willooooooow]

I initially really enjoyed Emma's podcast, but as time progressed my feelings weakened, what i once listened to as advice became what i listened to for background noise. I think Emma's initial set back for her podcast is that it is based on her personal experiences and advice. But she is in her early twenties and there is only so much advice she can give as a young woman, so content dries up quickly. I really agreed with your points, especially with the number of cuts and lack of analysis, which I have also noticed when watching the Spotify videos. Have a lovely day xx

[@lalalands101]

I am not on Tiktok so this is the first I am hearing of the critiques and honestly i'm disgusted by so many people saying she should (or needs) to go to college. As someone who does have a bachelors degree and is now in a 9-5, my opinion is this podcast style is a chat with friends and I enjoy hearing her thoughts. For me, its fun, chill and relaxing. Its a space to catch up with her on whats on in her mind. If people want more intellectual stimulation from a podcast, congrats theres thousands others to choose from. To your point about guests, she does have episodes with guests and her intelligence shines in those episodes based on her ability to engage effectively and reflect back what they are saying in simple terms. As you and I might know, there are a lot of smart professors who don't know how to teach because they are so far from the beginners mind. I feel so much compassion for Emma. I can only imagine how fucking hard it is on her mental health to have so many strangers dictating how she should live or life or her podcast. Only commenting since you begged for it lmao but here is my take on the topic :)

[@crybbyjaimie]

YESSSSS

[@gatoroda]

when i hear people say she should go to college to "leave her bubble" or have her thoughts challenge all i can think about is how she could just work on a farm for a month or two and get the same perspective shift 😭😭

[@adriegrace]

i really loved her episodes where she DID have guests also! like she has pretty good chemistry with most people and it was fun hearing them bounce ideas and concepts off each other. i think she does it best when she either REALLY deep dives into a topic like for example when she made like a couple multiple part series back in the day, or when she just flat out states she’s talking about something very surface level like shopping or hair care products etc. i do also miss her advice sessions but those were also kind of out of touch sometimes lol. overall though her personality shines through most when she’s talking ABOUT her passions i just think she’s kinda lost that and is grabbing onto very v a g u e ideas and topics these days, etc. and still trying to hard to be relatable because she is also at her best when shelve acknowledges her privilege and is self aware!! i also just like hearing about her random adventures in her day to day life and miss hearing about that stuff cause i do think she’s a great story teller ! also loved your video (:

[@dreuxasmr]

kinda reminds me of that one movie Adult World with Emma Roberts where the whole plot is her trying to become a poet but everybody hates her writing because she hasn't lived enough life to be poetic or profound. a lot of Emma's takes are just boring and lack a lot of depth and I think it is a combination of her growing up after missing out on lots of typical developmental stages/things that her followers have already experienced, as well as her everyday distance from normalcy.

[@helenajanuszki7428]

Emma was able to give more relatable content years ago when her fan base reached ages 15-17. She would share her life and experiences with her quirky (not in a negative way) personality. I love love love Emma. I was watching her since I was 13, now 18, and I continued with her podcast. As I matured though, she became more and more incoherent and erroneous. I agree with you when you mention how Emma is sharing her opinion as fact. There is a time and place when your opinions should be presented as factual (ie. proposing an idea to work to show dominance; obviously ideas are never factual, but in this instance it sets you apart from the crowd presenting yourself as such). She would give advice to her very young, impressionable audience about serious subjects like love life/ lifestyle. Emma is growing and maturing herself, why should she give advice? Who on her team is allowing her to talk on these subjects and uphold herself at this level of status? For me, the way she talks in her podcasts reflect her educational level. She structures her podcasts the way a high school underclassman would for an essay: subject, introduction, body, trail off for larger wordcount/ incomplete thoughts, body, tangent, conclusion. This is why I believe she should try to go to college, even if it is a class or two. She could get a higher level of education and be able to present herself in her podcasts as literate and informed. Emma has the opportunity, why not take it? This is all my opinion, but I feel as if many could agree. Correct me if I am wrong.

[@healingwkearra]

Thank for the college take!! I completely disagree as well, that you need to go to college to be able to think critically or explain yourself in a professional or mature way. I think that’s some thing that they specifically teach you in college, to make people feel like they need to pay an insane amount of money to be better than others, and it definitely shows giving that type of criticism… so thank you so much for pointing out that it’s not the constructive criticism people think that it is!!! 👏🏼👏🏼 very well balanced take!

[@healingwkearra]

@disappointment3090 I agree that I can help and it can be a wonderful place for some people! Not every school or person is the same absolutely! I thought it was awesome that she was saying you didn’t need it. I’m sorry if I came across like I was being judgmental! 🤍🖤

[@nneoma_nu]

I like seeing sane and respectful people like the both of you on the internet. Everyone is usually throwing fireballs at each other for issues that can easily be solved with modest conversation

[@juliamartino7047]

I took the ‘she needs to go to college’ statement more like it would benefit her talking this topics with more people interested in them, like students. Mainly because talking through them you get to see that most of them aren’t that deep, like you realise most educated people thought about them and you can get other insight. My main issue is that i think most of what she claims is really philosophical and deep, it really isn’t for me, it’s probably something i could’ve discussed with my friends on a normal day

[@_samantha]

college is not the only place for mental stimulation and i think it’s a bit disheartening that people are suggesting she go especially since she’s opened up about her struggle with standardized education in the past. There are other ways to meet people who she can “bounce ideas off of” (whatever tf that means) (Edit: in the sense that she doesn't need to go to college to do this.) This could be internships or other jobs. If she wanted to get into art, there are options for that. But at the same time, her status in the social atmosphere needs to be acknowledged. If she chose to do something like go to college, she probably would have to do it online rather than in person because of safety or scheduling reasons, etc.

[@eilisniaisi5954]

College is mostly a big scam

[@bethany5488]

emma watson was way more famous than emma Chamberlain but was still able to take college normally, I think the safety aspect is overblown. Colleges all have security anyways, and anyone who messes with her is risking getting expelled.

[@lizc9820]

I just discovered he podcast like a month ago and I'm obesessed with it. I love her philosophical content and I binged most of her old content too. Both are good and I feel like she is still balancing both. I don't feel like she is trying to teach me anything, it's more of her understanding herself while giving advice but it never feels forced to me. Listening to her has been super fun for me, sure she could make some adjustments but for the most part I think her podcast is one of the best out there and I never get bored. I remember listening to her interview on the Call Her Daddy podcast, and she mentioned getting hated on a lot a various points thorughout her career, and Alex was like what could they possibility hate on you for? You seem like you never get hate!... and now I see it haha. And sure you can call it constructive criticism, but she is doing the best that she can just like everyone else who does social media content and podcasts, and she actually has a lot of substance to her podcast, unlike many other creators out there. She is very intelligent for her age and I think the needing to go to college comment is passive aggressive. I guess if you don't enjoy the new stuff don't listen, it's simple. She can make whatever she wants.

[@Argonautsv2]

A question,How old are you.

[@adrianna28mar]

⁠​⁠@@lizc9820I completely agree, and same age lol I think the people making criticism are younger or her age and wanting her to be relatable but she kind of lives the life of an older demographic that isn’t looking to “follow” her advice. I feel like she’s just talking and that’s fine there’s few podcasts/media where I’m just tuning in to hang out

[@MichaelTurner856]

Same I like it

[@erinanne8853]

at the end you said you probably wont do more comentary, but please do. this was so fun and relaxing to listen to. but obvi, do you. we dont want you burning out like emma did!!

[@realle24]

Emma’s podcast reminds me of the photography experiment: Quality vs quality. Sometimes the fastest way to grow is to do. By showing up consistently & imperfectly, she learns via experience. ‘Fans’ consistently attack her character, intelligence & still weaponise her past moments of vulnerability (MH/ED’s) They bullied her off of tiktok, they accused her of being on drugs, they stalked her routine, & looked up where she lived from her vlogs. No wonder she so private. I think what we’re hearing is anxiety and her not trying to tip the scale & suffer the consequences of oversharing. She’s has guests on and has made deep podcast. Not ever pod will be a hit. I appreciate the simplicity.

[@hannah6457]

I like that it jumps around and isnt always perfectly on track bc that’s how my own brain works and it’s less boring and predictable this way. I think the point is to just get you thinking about different ideas bc she never seems to say things to tell the audience what is true or not.

[@diction4453]

My take on others saying Emma should go to college is that Emma needs to be around other people. Like she needs to just go through what College puts you through. You grow and learn a lot in college, and meet people from all walks of life there. Why do you think some celebrities pause their career to do so? To have a "normal life". I can't imagine what it was like being thrust into stardom as a teenager without experiencing vital moments that come between the ages of 17-22, these moments change you and teach you about yourself. I myself didn't have a normal college experince nor do I belive it is a requirement for everyone to do but for her I don't think it would have been a negative experience.

[@Beeanieweeniee]

I love her podcast, her embarrassing stories and personal experiences are why I loved it so much in the early days. A problem I have with the debate / philosophical stuff is she really shys away from giving an opinion. Politically I have no idea where she stands on any topic and it’s frustrating as it feels like she’s treading so carefully

[@Annej-isnt-gomez]

I think The she should “go to college” comments also play into the fact that she’s an only child, and when you have siblings, you are sometimes told to “STFU you’re talking about nothing right now stop talking”and I don’t think she’s ever been told that by someone who also loves her. So the only child mixed with the lack of being intellectually stimulated, make for a born podcast

[@mozzyno]

Thank you omg, I’ve been seeing people criticize her. I’ve never been an Emma chamberlain fan but I was interested in this story. I’ve always heard her name praised in the past, but was wondering if this was her downfall thanks for the awesome vid! I agree that it’s quite elitist for people to say she needs to go to college as if people who don’t go to college are less articulate. It seems like her fans are very personally connected to her, I’d love to hear what her role was for u growing up a fan. Are people’s concerns and comments a bit too para social or valid?

[@mozzyno]

Just came back from listening to the new Brittany broski podcast. I’m dead she literally talked about the whole going to college thing 💀

[@lala-wo5lg]

omg thank you for speaking up on this! cause i thought i was becoming a hater for disliking her podcast recently! it feels like she's talking just for a sake of talking, she brings nothing new or personal to the conversation and just repeating the same stuff all over again

[@JenAnna]

Great video! I think you mentioned not doing long videos cuz they are boring, but I love long videos where people can get into a topic so if it feels right, def keep making videos of this length!

[@samb7072]

it’s so easy to be angry after a break up and think none of it was real. with time and space you learn the love changed and was over, one sided or not, which allows you define it for what it really is: an experience, a memory-both of which are very real.

[@JM-qd6ot]

no shade at all but i really enjoy her podcasts, even as someone well into their 20s about to graduate college this semester. theyre comforting, & i don't think she needs to have profound takes to be entertaining? also, i feel like she is a good influence /important voice for young girls to hear. if its not for you than its no for you, I totally get it. personally, i love the more basic vibes i guess!

[@tinylittledeer]

the college part irks me when everyone says that. not even talking about emma anymore. not many people have the privilege to be able to go to college. you can be smart and educated without college

[@aerismahiwagangsandok]

bruh I literally thought I was the only one thinking some of her podcast were so out of touch💀

[@juliarodriguez4232]

I love the way you articulated this!!! thank you for honoring her and what she does well, but acknowledging all the things she could improve bc i'm totally with you. I love Emma for her relatability, and it seems that no matter how rich or famous she gets, she will still have a best friend feeling that is her brand and very true to her. i just hope she can begin putting out content again that is very honest but also meaningful to those who care about her and keep up with her. your advice was spot on. i think the hate she gets is too much and the college comments especially (you worded it perfectly) are just unnecessary and don't make much sense.

[@amberfirexx9]

i have not listened to her podcast in a long long time and i havent really seen much critique of it besides this video, but could it be that people telling her to go to college actually mean something similar to telling her to touch grass? like that she needs to go gain some life experience. she has been influencing since high school. her takes and even her topics are often very privileged and very limited. she doesn't have a whole lot of normal life experience outside of her influencer life. i think people more so mean that she could benefit from going to school or having a job and that would give her more fulfillment and more to talk about in her pods

[@PlebianGorilla]

College doesn’t necessarily lead to the opening of the mind. Feels like gatekeeping.

[@cvers99]

this was great! I think your commentary and advice was spot on. She seems out of touch with a reality most people (a lot of her audience) have and I also get the sense she doesn’t like sharing much of her own personal life, which is completely okay, but with that being said maybe her podcast shouldn’t just center her. She can have guests on with different opinions and different lives as her, as well as maybe even going old school and having fans call in for a segment. She definitely needs more structure but I don’t think it’s her fault, she just needs to realize it and change it lol. It’s okay to have structure in a podcast, you can still get the feel of just “sitting in on a conversation” with it done right.

[@gracealyssa28]

I saw a critique saying that she should go to college in the sense that she would able to discuss views and ideas with other people

[@fitnesswithemely]

yeah that whole “she should go to college” argument was very weird to begin with, ESPECIALLY since the most philosophical, well thought-out people you know most likely gained their wisdom and perspective outside of college and from other sources or works of art.

[@avadiedrich2748]

this was structured so nicely and you’re so well spoken!!

[@aloe.vxraaa]

you brought up so many good pointers and useful takeaways -- i really hope Emma watches this vid; she literally needs to pay you to be her advisor lmao also you should def do more commentary vids! you're super well spoken & the way you present information/analysis is so engaging, had my attention the whole time and I didn't even realize it was a 20 min long vid

[@kmormore]

You should totally make more videos like this! Super entertaining I immediately went to your channel in hopes you’ve made more like this one 😅

[@chloe7288]

They tell her to go to college, but they might as well tell her to read a book. In either case, she just needs more life experience and knowledge so that she has a better understanding of what she's talking about. It sounds like her podcast is like asking a child questions like "What is the meaning of life?" or "What is the nature of love?" and seeing what they come up with. It also seems like one of the main criticisms here is that the podcast is generally low-effort. If Emma is trying to make a professional quality podcast, she should do research, stick to the topic, use a script, and rehearse a little bit. It doesn't sound like she's doing any of the above.

[@alexiabethiol2156]

emma's podcast threw me off after the episode she talks about work. it felt so out of touch that it got really annoying. but i also dislike when she talks about internet/social media bc i feel like she tries to distance herself from the fact that she got famous bc of the internet. she will mention it from time to time, but as someone so inserted in this context, she should be able to discuss it with more details and actually make it sound interesting.

[@blazingstar9638]

The divorce rate fact is actually not true anymore, it’s based on boomers & maybe Gen x But nowadays the divorce rate is actually quite a bit lower

[@VivaciousLyla]

Another thing to consider about her comment on fame and success is that she blew up pretty rapidly. I mean, there was a slow buildup where she posted like 50 vid (I think) that summer, and then one finally took off, but after that everything happened very fast for her. I have gone viral on TikTok and Instagram multiple times and while it was beneficial for my account (gained a lot of followers, opportunities, brands reaching out, etc.), often times the videos I LOVE and never regret making are not usually the viral ones. My point is how fast you obtain your success impacts how long you will receive "happiness" and dopamine from it.

[@emmapoole1998]

I’m 25, I’ve graduated college, I work at an elementary school, I’m happily married with a 10 month old. I love Emma’s podcast. I agree she could benefit from a stricter outline and more academic research. Nonetheless, I think it’s good.

[@emmapoole1998]

I liked the happiness episode especially.

[@watermelonvanilla]

all the best for future videos jocelyn! I hope youre consist in the future too! You gained a follower yay felt genuine and well articulated

[@nina_sayers]

ditto!!

[@user-iw8wl9wu8y]

On the Emma chamberlain subreddit people usually do give examples and it’s also really common topic then. I really mid her original podcast too it was cute and entertaining.

[@unseenmolee]

yeah its hurtful to hear ppl use not having gone to college as an insult. fuck that. its so elitist honestly. like only a small percentage of ppl actually go to college. its super expensive, and yk what?? some ppl just dont want to go to college and that doesnt make them dumb or somehow lesser than anyone who has!

[@leachristin9335]

thank you you explained beautifully what she could do to make her podcast more interesting to listen to. I personally can relate to her train of thoughts, but everyones mind is different (we also have quite similar birth charts so maybe that's a thing) but honestly seeing all these people write she should go to college just comes off sooo conceited and it makes me disgusted to be honestl. my best friend and me both have a psychology degree and we talk about things she talks about in her podcasts too!!

[@Babybot41]

I don't think people are necessarily saying she needs to go to college to improve her podcast or knowledge level, I think they just mean she could benefit from college because these are the types of discussions people have in college, and youre able to bounce ideas off other people rather than just a one sided conversation with no one challenging you! She honestly would probably enjoy it.

[@moandbel9502]

No this is exactly what I commented and how I feel. Based on the things Emma talks about and the way she talks about them I feel like she would love college.

[@Babybot41]

Exactly!! For real one of my favorite parts about college was all these new discussions I got to have and having people my age who actually challenge my opinions. It's just a bonus that inadvertently, it could help her podcast as well! @@moandbel9502

[@goodatbeinguncomfortable]

It's interesting that fans of her youtube expected anything more from her podcast.. her video diaries are about literally nothing. Her podcast is the same. Which is a shame because she is an interesting person who obviously has charisma to build this social empire.. however I guess like any celebrity we chose to follow there is an expectation for growth. Let's be clear though, her brand is built around this idea that she doesn't care. That's not a criticism that's just how it is. Her laying in bed rambling about nothing.. that's her brand. What more do people expect?

[@luzleal474]

i’m glad someone is finally talking about this because oml i was starting to get so annoyed seeing the “prompts” she posts on twitter like the questions are so boring or obvious and it just feels like she needs to take a break from this whole thing…

[@beasavarie8729]

I started her podcast from the beginning and I enjoyed the earlier episodes. But once she got into all the psychoanalyzing stuff, I stopped listening. I just don’t like people talking about stuff like that without proper research. I will say that I agreed with a lot of what she was saying. The biggest part I liked and miss was her really talking about her personal experiences because that was what I could relate to.

[@elevenxy]

As someone who is not exactly a fan of hers, I agree that this is an interesting topic for a video, but I'm disappointed with the lack of meaningful research, as well as the wishy-washy thesis and the odd argument points. If you're gonna make a video about why people aren't enjoying her podcast, it's weird to me that you wouldn't fully commit to listening to episodes in their entirety. The moments that bore you or incite confusion should be the ones you analyze and sit with the most. Not finishing episodes you start in general is also very confusing since you're taking the time to research them. Why should we be expected to sit through your analysis on something you haven't even fully engaged with? On top of that, the main points you argue don't seem to connect to a wider context, for example, bringing up that people might be offended to hear that she doesn't believe in love. Lowkey.. who cares? It's her podcast and she can and should talk about her personal opinions. I think it would be better to look for moments or opinions that lend themselves to painting a bigger context of her socioeconomic status. Also, calling her out for not fully fledging out her ideas in between sections where you say the same thing over and over before finishing with a block of text that says the same thing makes your point fall flat. "Telling people to go to college is not the constructive criticism you think it is!".... ok well what is it?? I know you go further into it, but when you're putting a statement like that on your screen, it's just an illustration of an opinion, and if you're positioning yourself to be the one to talk about said opinion, you should do a lot more than that. I apologize if this seems rude, but I genuinely think you're onto something and would like to see it more fleshed out. also this is obviously just the opinion of one random person on the internet so 😭