Why Are the Highly Educated So Liberal?

--The higher your level of education beyond high school, the more likely you are to hold consistently liberal beliefs
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[@americanslime]

You don't need to go to college. You just need to interact with a wide diversity of people, seek out information regularly, and be truly capable of critical thought. If our early education wasn't such a disaster, this would be easily attainable by anybody.

[@Freshnewz10]

americanslime I have talk to people around the world. I'm Mexican American and live in California. Most of the celebrities that I admire where democrats. After years I became conservatives and I have even convinced many educated liberals to becomes conservatives. So yes, the more you learn the more you will become a conservative

[@roberto87678]

americanslime if that was the case, wouldn't everyone go to graduate school and become doctors, lawyers and business men/women? If it was that easy, a lot more people wouldn't drop out of college

[@timerockorchestra]

Freshnewz10 Apparently, you haven't learned much if you think your anecdotal evidence means shit when compared to empirical evidence and statistics. Also, your grammar is horrible. No way in hell you are an educated person.

[@JackgarPrime]

Well that's why colleges tend to result in people being more liberal. For many colleges, especially highly regarded ones, people from all over both the country and the world tend to convene there. So you have the result of being surrounded by people of all sorts of different backgrounds. By interacting with a variety of people, you'll become more sympathetic towards them (usually, not always) which will also gravitate towards a more progressive viewpoint.

[@roberto87678]

JackgarPrime Agreed 100%. Liberals are educated, while Conservatices tend to be the blue collar type. Not always racists, but you certainly don’t see liberal racists.

[@EmpressOfCatsup]

It always seems to me that most of the people who claim that universities indoctrinate students to be liberal must have never gone to one. You know what I learned about in my math, biology, and chemistry classes? Math, biology, chemistry. My professors weren't in the habit of discussing let alone pushing their political beliefs. I had a calculus teacher who I later found out was a creationist because of a poster I saw about him giving a talk to one of the umpteen Christian groups we had on campus. He never discussed that shit in calculus either. Even when I took a political science class, my professor just taught about the different political theories; he never took a side. Maybe it is just classic conservative projection. Conservatives are the ones who want to indoctrinate their kids into exactly the same views they hold, and so they myopically think that other people have the same agenda.

[@JCstealth2344]

That's what I'm thinking; since when is politics involved in math, literature, music, or history?

[@KiraYamato227]

+VeganVorarephile There was a university that was making a class about white-privilege compulsory to graduate.

[@sjw101thepoliticalgamer8]

+VeganVorarephile So much this. There is an element of anti intellectualism in this constant battle of e-celebs who know full well that most of their subscribers are not university educated. Those people then go around youtube and other social media believing everything their favourite youtuber(s) have indoctrinated them with. Very ironic considering the nature of their claims against university education. I never experienced this indoctrination while at university either. However, I can recognise it on youtube among many popular e-celebs. Its a money spinner for them and they are laughing all the way to the bank.

[@sylvias5912]

+VeganVorarephile Don't think anyone's asserting that liberal ideas are taught in Math, biology, or chemistry. They do teach liberal, white guilt, and other idiocy in such classes History, Political Science, and other classes. If that isn't happening then how do explain what is going on all over the US. Something in the water perhaps....lol.

[@sjw101thepoliticalgamer8]

Sylvia S Nope, I studied Social Sciences and there was no whisper of white guilt - plenty of political philosophy, economics, international relations, diplomatic studies etc. Just because this is blown out of all proportion on youtube doesn't mean its happening "all over the US".

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

Highly educated people can also be conservative

[@CarCarBigW]

Never confuse education with intelligence

[@4touchdowns1game29]

I know some of the most ignorant people I met was in college.

[@glennifer1225]

Sure. But i bet there is a strong correlation between intelligence and education level.

[@tarajoyce3598]

Never confuse faith with fact.

[@LautaroTessi]

A person can be both intelligent and high educated, yet even that does not guarantee that person is WISE. Feelings can bend the most intelligent or intelecutal person into the wrong or bad ideas. What ideas are wrong or bad? For starters, the ones that do not work in practice, like socialism (and it has even been proven that it doesn’t work in theory, but it’s debatable).

[@Illusionistical822]

And what's with this shit about universities being "soooo friggin liberal..."? Maybe in the humanities or sociology. But in Economics, Business, Political Science and Computer Science? Holy shit. it was as if I walked into a George W. Bush book signing.

[@Illusionistical822]

Alex xeon Business, Poli Sci is for smart people??? Hahahaha....

[@adamanderson3042]

From your wording you're obviously referring to a personal incident which is personal anecdote. Anecdotes are inherently misleading on this type of statistic. The only university subject where the average person is more likely to be conservative is theology. All of the other topics you stated are still above average in liberal attendance, especially political science and computer science. The statistics don't bear out your theory.

[@sebastienholmes548]

Never confuse education with intelligence.

[@stevenduvall2549]

I think education, empathy and exposure to many different ethnicities and cultures are some major factors that cause people to become more liberal.

[@robertdietsche3610]

Your are correct Steven; it allows people to think outside the box. Some liberals fail because they have never had a real practical experience in their life. Theory is fine but there comes a time when practical decisions need to be made.

[@adennagruetzmacher5622]

Or it could be exposure to silly ideas backed up by huge amounts of peer pressure to get one to believe in ideas that have no reflection on reality? Like CRT, or trans or women, or communism. Sound great in a classroom in the same way magic spells or cool when playing Dungeons & Dragons. But once the game is over and you step out of the classroom progressives quickly realize the ONLY way to even come close to turning their political religious ideas into the world is through the use of FORCE. lots and lots of government force. Freedom be damned.

[@coxnballs]

@@adennagruetzmacher5622 Yeah. To put it simply, the education is liberal therefore it's "educated" students are too. They've been indoctrinated.

[@kicksomeup6998]

@@coxnballs Note how 'conservative' sources of information like Fox News and churches of certain denominations is the truth, but leftist sources based on science and history are 'indoctrination'.

[@coxnballs]

@@kicksomeup6998 Both Conservative and leftist sources are based on science. I hardly ever hear Fox news using Christianity as a way to explain a scientific issue. We apply Christianity to moral issues like abortion, not scientific issues dumbass. Leftist sources are based on fake science and history for the most part. Remember when Left wing news networks said that vaccines would stop people from getting covid according to "the science"? And boy, how wrong that turned out to be. Most of the time, it's not even science, just straight up lies and carefully manipulated statistics, especially when it comes to the vaccines.

[@packr72]

Because anyone with a functioning brain realizes that cutting taxes on the rich and deregulation hurts the middle and lower classes.

[@johnlavender7062]

HEILLL NAAA There are no countries where the rich are very poor, that's why they are called rich.

[@brianedward9119]

packr72 That logic only works under the assumption that banks just keep all deposits locked away in safes. Banks are in the bussiness of lending and when the rich put their money in banks, the Middle class are lent that money by banks in the form of loans. Besides, even if I were to concede and give you that inch, operating under the logic of "We are going to take away a large sum of your wealth, because it benefits the less fortunate and they are ENTITLED TO IT" Is a violation of one's basic human rights. *P.S. I know I just made an Anti-Tax argument but I am not anti tax. But don't take 60% of my money tho pls and thanku*

[@jeremyayers5353]

Start your research on taxes starting in the 1400s and go forward until today and you'll see that taxes are quite an unnecessary evil unless you're going to pay for wars that's it (basically we only need to pay taxes for the military nothing else).

[@jeremyayers5353]

dlee t Out of all you said and all the links you provided. We still don't need taxes at all unless we're at war.

[@Ananta9817]

Jeremy Ayers You mean just income tax or taxes in general?

[@Hal_T]

Higher education equates to greater liberalism partly because conservative thought by its very nature is *rooted* (stuck) in the past. Education, by its very nature, uses the past only as an object lesson (a springboard) to move into the future. Look at what conservatives hold dear: a highly romanticized (and inaccurate) view of past times; religion and a belief in a highly improbable supreme creator; hero worship of (often despotic) authoritarian figures. Conservatives are either leaders or sheep. Liberals are contentious individualists who buck political correctness to advance untried new agendas. The world needs a bit of both, some conservatives to add a dash of caution and a bunch of "young turks" to move society forward into the unknown future.

[@michaellemmen]

Thanks dad

[@Hal_T]

@@michaellemmen - You're welcome, sonny. Don't forget to eat your vegetables.

[@Satan666Official]

During high school I leaned more liberal, but after graduating I leaned more conservative, and it suits my own thinking process better. I respect those on the other side, so long as I am also respected. If we agree to disagree, I'm satisfied. Many people take things too far.

[@foreverwantingpie]

I think another angle is that education can combat propaganda. It can help you recognize logical fallacies, the motives behind ethos & pathos arguments, and coded language.

[@richardfroste4548]

foreverwantingpie The Army helps you recognize and reject propaganda .

[@veronicarosewood1494]

It can also waste years of your life and put you into debt too.

[@gorkyd7912]

Education can combat propaganda, or it can be propaganda. You can tell which by the opinions of those who were educated. If they all fall into line with each other but have no ability to discuss or debate the reasoning behind their conclusions you know they've been propagandized and never reached conclusions through logic and knowledge.

[@EllePole]

Good point

[@alpw1234]

@@gorkyd7912 that's one of the best posts in this forum

[@Ninth_Penumbra]

I'm largely self educated (due to a lot of different factors), but throughout my life, I've also had the privilege to interact with a number of incredibly bright, creative & thoughtful people. Not all were university educated. I've also had the misfortune to (through necessity) be forced to spend time with some profoundly arrogant, insufferable & downright idiotic individuals, who have had the opportunity to gain a degree & doctorate. From what I've seen, it's not necessarily the institutional education (from, say, an accredited university), that provokes people into changing deeply held sociopolitical opinions, but the broadening of the mind that comes from including varieties of people (who have significantly different perspectives to yourself) into your Dunbar's group of friends & acquaintances. It's much easier to be manipulated into an emotive "Us vs Them" point of view in an argument, if you've never actually had any personal experiences in interacting with someone who's being classed as one of "Them". This environment of mixing with people who are ethnically, racially, sexually & sociologically different from yourself, has profound consequences when juxtaposed with more authoritarian & exclusional social matrices, such as exist in many locations throughout America. Modern universities, by their very natures, attract people (primarily) based on intellect, as well as stimulating discussions of topics that are new to those individuals, who come to study there. It's not a huge leap from discussing the content of a set project, to discussing those more personal topics relating to individuals within your group. Having worked at a university, I have seen cliques of people who are deliberately exclusional, rejecting any contact with other people or ideas (other than those concepts directly included in the course syllabus). I have no doubt that people within groups like this retain exactly the same opinions & beliefs that they began with. My last point is that intellect alone does not confer expertise. Case in point is the online personality: the brilliant Canadian psychologist, Professor Jordan Peterson. Though he has both a rare talent in clearly explaining his ideas (while speaking to the public), an impressive personal intellect, a long list of advanced qualifications and - of course - great experience & expertise within the psychological realm, he has also made authoritative statements concerning such subjects as the Supernatural (that cannot be scientifically substantiated) and Economic Theory (which was completely erroneous). Obviously it's possible to discuss a topic without needing a university degree, but it requires you to educate yourself on that subject first. And finally, you must avoid arguments based on opinion & 'gut instinct', and instead base your statements on scientific proofs, facts & - above all - reasoned thinking (avoiding logical fallacies).

[@mikebrownplayingguitar1253]

Liberal carry more debt.colleges teach people how to vote Democrat,and take their money,then they get out of school and can not get a job.trade school is better than college

[@MyplayLists4Y2Y]

Being liberal is great and all, but apparently doesn't include the ability to iron one's shirt. #DavidsWrinkledShirt

[@thedavidpakmanshow]

+Tine Woodbe that's the style shirt

[@jrestrepo08]

#nobodycares

[@philpottkentucky4802]

+Tine Woodbe you at least have to admit the hairdo is perfectly coiffed.

[@MyplayLists4Y2Y]

***** Agreed! David's hair and analysis are often spot on! But the wrinkled shirt/jacket combo...? a true fashion offense worthy of 10 lashing with a Giorgio Armani belt!

[@roymerritt6992]

Shouldn't the hash tag be David's Wrinkled Shirt? I can't recall ever seeing the word wringled. There may be such a word, but if so it's not one often used in conversation. I will have to Google it and the definition of it, but I seriously doubt it is an English word one might find in any English dictionary. So I would suggest that if you thought you were scoring some obscure point against Mr. Pakman's commentary and liberalism in general in some obscure way you utterly failed. You simply confirmed his point that the dumber someone is they are the more likely to have a skewed vision of the world and inclined to having disdain for others.

[@channel1channel139]

Liberal views do not have to be in line with being a democrat and wanting bigger government and higher taxes - not even sure how this ended up going together.. classical liberalism / libertarianism is what often makes sense (not to an absolute extreme, of course) - keeping the government out of your bed as well as your wallet. There are also (sometimes) conservative democrats and liberal republicans :) The biggest problem recently though is the left, which is supposed to be liberal, moving toward extreme left (ie SJW idiocy) becoming more authoritarian and leaving truly liberal people in somewhere in the middle and thereby kind of destroying the left... that ultra left movement def needs some correction - otherwise the “left” will just lose..

[@12Tsurugi]

Thank you. By definition I am liberal, but I hate to call myself that because of how totalitarian the left is becoming

[@BCNeil]

It's due to religion. Educated people are less religious.

[@chestermingfanpage]

@@kokaboba not due to religion though

[@taehyungshands]

fair

[@dragonvliss2426]

Not necessarily, but I think they are religious in a different way. They tend to be less dogmatic and more open to other faiths, more willing to see all faiths, not necessarily as "true" but as different methods of reaching toward a reality beyond the full understanding of humans. They also are less likely to take their particular religious text or tradition literally, and to be more open to metaphor and stories as providing a moral, rather than being historical. It would be a brave ( or foolish ) person who would describe Thomas Aquinas as "uneducated."

[@Steve-mk6rq]

"Why Are the Highly Educated So Liberal?" Really? That depends on what you considered "high education". Is it "high indoctrination" or is it "high brainwashing".

[@bhsx]

1994 is also when the internet started to become more mainstream. The internet has been the most driving liberal force in the history of the world, and more educated people most likely use it more often and don't confine themselves to certain corners.

[@Fantisan95]

You're giving the "highly educated" far too much credit. You're exactly right in saying the reason they're liberal is due to the popularization of the internet, but it has nothing to do with them being well rounded and not confined into "corners". They're liberal because the internet brainwashes them into being liberal. Simple as that. If the internet was as conservative as it is liberal, they would be conservative. Most highly educated people i've come across in my lifetime don't know the difference between a phillips and regular screw driver.

[@eupraxis1]

Conservatism has never had a good theoretical position. Never a good idea. Prove me wrong.

[@serpentseed23]

Freedom of speech. Free market. Property rights. The two parent household.

[@robm6645]

+The Choler of Chloë Not conservative. Not a good idea. Out of control idea. Conservatives oppose two parent households.

[@serpentseed23]

+Rob McCune the first amendment came from concerns expressed by the anti-federalists (who were in favor of very small and limited government. The free market is the reason you're probably checking this message on your cellphone right now. I'm not sure how property rights are an 'out of control idea', you'll have to elucidate that point. Conservatives are in favor of two parent households. They tend to fight to uphold the cohesiveness of the nuclear family and shame single mothers (but not widows).

[@robm6645]

The Choler of Chloë Not really, there was wide spread support for a bill of rights even at the constitutional convention. And to claim 18th century anti-federalists are in anyway tied to contemporary conservatives is laughable to say the least. The people who felt that banks were as dangerous as standing armies wouldn't want anything to do with the pro-corporate, pro-finance, pro-militarism conservatives of today. The free market might be the reason I checked this on my cell phone, but government regulation is the reason the lithium battery didn't catch fire when I did. It's also the reason I'm not hospitalized with food poisoning from the restaurant I had lunch at. If you don't understand how property rights are out of control you clearly don't know anything about modern capitalism. But to give you one example do you think KZbin's copyright and takedown system is fair? And no, conservatives do not support two parent households because they have been fighting same sex marriage and same sex adoption for decades.

[@serpentseed23]

+Rob McCune Federalist support for the Bill of Rights doesn't imply that it was the Federalists' idea to include the First Amendment. A quick look at the history of the origins of the First Amendment will set you straight on this. Federalists actually have a bit of a history of trying to undermine the First Amendment. And yes, small and limited government is a principle of the conservatism. The further right you get, the smaller and weaker the government you want. No one said I had to limit my argument to modern day conservatives, I believe the chap above said that conservatism NEVER had a good idea, not currently doesn't have a good idea. Pro-corporatism doesn't come out of the principles of a conservative government. It comes from a government that is heavily involved with the economy, which is a liberal principle. The further right you get, the more disgust you will see over corporatism. There is no reason the free market can't make phones that won't ignite or a restaurant that won't poison it's customers. Do you think people are going to buy from the phone company whose cellphones have problems with burning peoples' faces off or go to the restaurant with every other Yelp review claiming they got food poisoning there? Not anyone with half a brain. Competition will help craft the best products for the customer. Modern capitalism isn't capitalism. It's one part capitalism, one part socialism, and a hefty side of corporatism. If industries aren't subsidies by the government and aren't able to lobby to the government for special treatment, we would be much closer to capitalism. Fighting against same sex marriage or against the right of adoption for gays is not the same as fighting against the two parent household. It's intellectually dishonest to conflate these two. Personally, I'm for gay marriage and adoption but the fight for the family unit predates the fight for homosexual rights.

[@gregoryoganisyan]

Despite of how smart those liberals are, none of them have yet figured out how to change their own tire

[@JonathanMichael]

I'm a liberal but I'm not a leftist.

[@leeeeee286]

+Jonathan Michael Acha Good choice.

[@justinboggin9086]

+Jonathan Michael Acha Be careful. I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say that a majority of people don't know the difference between those two.

[@JonathanMichael]

+Justin Boggin it's quite disappointing that many people tend to conflate "liberal" and "leftist".

[@robm6645]

So you're an oxymoron then?

[@bigraviolees]

+Jonathan Michael Acha then you are part time sane

[@AbnormalWrench]

I've never been to a college, but I once drove by one and became a liberal. Powerful stuff.

[@ttamcc.4674]

wth

[@cristianelizondo8575]

Liberals are just smarter.. Keeping it real. Don't get offended conservatives, don't get PC on me

[@swiftmotion4762]

No, no they're not. I'm not a Republican but mostly all the leftist(liberals) I have met are stupid.

[@firemage8874]

***** What makes him stupid? He has a different point of view? Are the views you hold the only correct ones? You are the worst kind of moron. A self-righteous moron. Fuck off

[@serpentseed23]

A 2014 study by Noah Carl from Oxford University disagrees with you. He found that republicans had higher IQ's than democrats.

[@rebeccaed2018]

American Nationalist, Your logical fallacy is ANECDOTAL: You used a personal experience or an isolated example instead of a sound argument or compelling evidence. It's often much easier for people to believe someone's testimony as opposed to understanding complex data and variation across a continuum. Quantitative scientific measures are almost always more accurate than personal perceptions and experiences, but our inclination is to believe that which is tangible to us, and/or the word of someone we trust over a more 'abstract' statistical reality. Example: Jason said that that was all cool and everything, but his grandfather smoked, like, 30 cigarettes a day and lived until 97 - so don't believe everything you read about meta analyses of methodologically sound studies showing proven causal relationships.

[@jamesmurchison3257]

Ty Rusty for the article and your thoughts. I am definitely more liberal in thought but have come to appreciate conservativism for it's grounding in tradition. Our forefathers, believe it or not, have wisdom to impart on us. Things change. It isn't a given that they change for the better.

[@azsegrxdhtfgvijnkomlewrhtg9508]

What does being highly educated really even mean? It definitely doesn't mean someone who went to university is more intelligent, knows more or has more valuable knowledge than another person who hasn't gone to university. I mean someone who went to university and studied gender, philosophy or whatever other impractical degree certainly isn't more intelligent, nor do they have more valuable knowledge than someone who works as an electrician.

[@Voidsworn]

This how I see it: conservatism is about holding onto, liberalism about not. Changing one's views requires not holding onto. Education is about getting new information, acquiring new ideas.

[@JulianB123]

+Voidsworn Yeah but liberals aren't in favor of bad change their in favor of change they see as just, fair, and moral

[@rahowhero]

close. liberalism is about changing the staus quo. conservative is maintaining the status quo and associated value systems and power structures

[@whydowelivejusttosuffer7704]

+julian brown well a true progressive Liberal will be able to determine that The regressive liberals through...

[@adamanderson3042]

The regressive liberals make up less than 5% of liberals though.

[@ErutaniaRose]

In a perfect world, we would have a balance of both. The more liberal people help create change, and the conservative people make sure the change doesn't happen too quickly. Change, even good change, if all at once or too quickly can have detrimental effects. Everything in moderation.

[@liesbethdevries4986]

EQ = emotional intelligence = empathy The liberal mindset is based on empathy. IQ is given too much importance.

[@ErutaniaRose]

IQ is what makes money, EQ is what usually spends it. It's too bad people care more about money than the mental and physical health of literal children. 😒

[@brianknickerbocker8518]

The GOP always vote against education bills, and unrelated but pisses me off they also vote against Vet bills

[@sebastienholmes548]

They want school choice.

[@LDrees]

Conclusion: You can't fix stupid.

[@crash6871]

The most educated people and the most intelligent people are not always the same people. In this day and age you can learn a lot without being formally educated, and we all know people that have gone through higher education that aren't really that bright. This is just my opinion but sometimes I feel highly educated people overestimate their own abilities.

[@2FlyCaptain]

crash6871 some highly educated people aren't very smart you are correct there, however when you take a sample size of college graduates more of them will be intelligent than non graduates. College not only teaches you to challenge your beliefs but to research effectively. I'm a graduate nurse and college did teach me some nursing skills but more importantly it trained me to critically think and use evidence based practice. So the generalization of most college graduates are more intelligent than most people that did not attend college is correct but there are frequent departures from this rule because when you talk about a person it has to be on a case by case basis. Look at Jenny McCarthy's pediatrician. He's an anti vaxxer.

[@timdoherty101]

tutenkharnage That is begging the question. You assume that the college educated are the most intelligent/competent which is the very question at issue.

[@adamanderson3042]

"The most educated people and the most intelligent people are not always the same people." No one in all of history ever believed that. We are talking about averages. Most of the most intelligent people in the world are very well educated, but not all. Most of the least intelligent people in the world are very lowly educated.

[@robertdietsche3610]

Native intelligence and knowledge are not the same.

[@rparl]

@@adamanderson3042 I met someone who was judged to be uneducable (sp?), that is, unable to be educated. He was kicked out of the Junior College system here in California.

[@RosieVintage]

The more educated you are, the more you learn that conservative points/values are basically a load of crap. Everything I believe in is backed up by science and facts.

[@thisgenerationistoosoftand7590]

Yep

[@ttamcc.4674]

says the one who votes for people that cant understand the concept of gender yea so your side being educated??? Yeah right

[@ttamcc.4674]

always thinking black people are specifically targeted by police officers intentionally, no other race of people being killed by the police officer and a whole bunch of guilty white people and you say that statement, girl your crazy

[@coltonfrechette377]

Press X to Doubt

[@ConanVictor]

You are the only load of crap here.

[@proctor123456]

Im in high school and am liberal, unlike my mom...

[@proctor123456]

+amaranta chen yes. I think we do

[@turbokid6996]

you should try some apple cider vinegar for that

[@KiraYamato227]

+proctor123456 Your mother can't currently attend high-school mate.

[@proctor123456]

+Gav you don't sayy. She just already graduated in the 80s and all

[@aliakbararofah]

liberal FTW

[@vickypaulson9264]

With Republican parents, neither finished high school. I had an "A" grade average, went to college, and am very liberal. My schooling did not turn me this way, rather I think i had a wider view of humanity, and value right for most, more liberty for them, than the structure in which my parents voted for.I find the conservatives very restricting of personal liberties, and personal choice. I also found them to spend my money on stupid restrictions to restrict their liberties.

[@YT-ex4qb]

Definitely not pro-science when it comes to abortion so don’t use that one😇

[@TurdFurgeson571]

Critical thinking skills are to blame. Nowadays, people have access to most of the facts. So learning the facts isn't the cause. It's learning how to assess them and draw your own sound conclusions based on that assessment which is challenged and you must then defend that conclusion with additional reasonable assessments of facts.

[@Dolby109]

You are making the assumption that access to the facts means people know them, and for the most part they don't. People (of any persuasion) have a tendency to only seek out information that supports their bias. And with so much information from bias sources that is easy to do. So from there it is easy to come to the conclusion you already wanted based on the purposely limited amount of information you found. Even worse many people don't even bother to search at all for information and just take their own assumptions as matter of fact.

[@hooligan9794]

If thats true explain the support for marxism/communism we see amoungst the highly educated liberals.

[@Dolby109]

Hool igan - Huh? I have yet to ever observe this. More commonly I see conservatives continually confuse communism with socialism. Are you confused?

[@hooligan9794]

Dolby109 I am not at all confused. You haven't observed it. Great. Also somewhat irrelevant.

[@Dolby109]

I've never seen any American talk positively about Communism...but I've seen a lot of people criticize liberals for supporting or being communists. Maybe these people are stuck in the 1940's.

[@curseyoujordanshow]

I appreciate especially the point about "increasing empathy". I used to be very conservative, but over time I gradually became what I'd now consider very liberal, and if I look at other changes I've made as a person over the years parallel to changes in my political beliefs, I think the one that sticks out to me more than anything else is a significant advancement in my ability and willingness to empathize with people I don't know.

[@Time2gojoe]

Em-pathetic... That's what you are.. as you become more liberal your judgement goes down and empathy goes up.. because empathy is absence of judgement.. therefore you become an emotional thinker incapable of rational logic.. and when other nasty creatures like you come along and say things like "universal healthcare... Diversity.. tax the rich.. equality" you use your lack of logic and vote to agree with them.. perpetuating deep societal problems with crushing taxes (property, sales, income) and regulations that spike inflation, diluting the power of savings and making things that used to be affordable in 1980 like a house into something only the upper echelons of society can hope to afford.. you see students needing access to education so you pump billions upon billions of dollars into federal loan programs only to straddle students with debt and make education 1400%!!! More expensive because there are no price controls.. you then use your empathy to further pump more tax dollars into housing and food programs and debt relief schemes which only makes inflation worse and worse.. so it's a constant feedback loop of stupid emotional thinking causing more stupid emotional thinking and decision making.. and this is is all because you are so limp and lame and emotional and empathetic that you don't have the guts, courage and fortitude to have sympathy. Empathy is: "I'm sorry about all the problems you are having" and sympathy is: "I'm sorry about all the problems you are having.. how can I help?". Gutless empathetic liberal airbags like yourself have no concept of sympathy. You think your empathy makes you a good person... When in reality you are the root cause of all problems and you are a terrible person. We call this Idiocracy.. because Idiocracy isn't a bunch of dumb conservative hicks running everything.. it's actually a bunch of dumb liberals who try to fix everything while making it worse and worse and worse. What you described is not growing up.. it's growing down.. this whole situation becomes even more heinous when you use your liberal beliefs to them persecute and defame and assault conservatives.. bastardizing your purported claims of having empathy and kindness and twisting it into a weapon you use to beat people over the head you disagree with.. because you also think it makes you a good person.. you remind me of the the first self help book by Napoleon Hill, "The Law of Success" where it's stated " having an education does not make one educated". That is a phrase that should be tattooed to each brainless liberals forehead so they can be reminded when they look in the vanity they are always wrong no matter how right they think they are..

[@curseyoujordanshow]

@@Time2gojoe Nice novella, but I literally didn't read more than the first few sentences. Your idea that emotion is inherently irrational, and that logic and empathy are somehow mutually exclusive is so, so laughably/tragically misguided that reading one more word of anything you have to say is a galactic waste of my time.

[@beliefs22]

I view it this way. I can remember as a neuroscience student learning the story of Phineas Gage, and how neurological damage changed the person he was. This completely changed the way I thought of the world and what makes us the people we are. I think the more education you have, the more likely you are to encounter some type of knowledge that makes you realize that the world and the people in it are very complex. And it's liberal policies that usually reflect the complexity of life, because life doesn't truly operate on easy phrases like "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps".

[@gorkyd7912]

"Just fearmongering" is a crass dismissal without evidence. What makes sense to you is not empirical, especially if it's just a confirmation of your own leanings. We're not talking about mental open-mindedness, fearfulness, or some other psychological metric, we're talking about holding liberal political stances. The reason people are more consistently liberal, instead of mixed, the longer they're educated is simply because liberal political views are reinforced in educational settings more while conservative views are not. Teachers and professors are not a random selection, they are predominantly people who value the curriculum they're teaching enough to dedicate their working time to teaching it. If the curriculum is liberal so will be the teachers. It's difficult for socially conservative people to passionately teach the modern curriculum that is deeply "politically correct" and completely devalues what they think are important to a functioning society (mother/father families, personal responsibility, etc.) And it's difficult for economically conservative people to passionately go to work in a teachers union, for a government-funded entity, or live off of grant money and financial aid, means that are affronts to the free market they would consider a better method. Therefore, the number of liberal teachers and professors far far far exceeds the average for the population and is becoming more that way because of the curriculum and structure of public education. Now, if the authority in your classroom holds liberal political stances that doesn't mean automatic indoctrination. But other liberal students, faculty, etc. will comfortably speak their minds while conservatives will keep their opinions quiet to avoid argument, bad grades, being made to look dumb in front of the whole class by a trained orator, etc. Therefore, liberal views are reinforced while conservative views are not. Simply being aware that the "intelligent people" that are educating you have liberal views will tend to put those in a more favorable light. But if you really think "facts and realities" makes people more liberal than about 1/4 of post grads are apparently unconvinced by facts and realities. So you can get a post grad degree without grasping reality? I would say climate change pushers can't grasp reality at this point.

[@ttt5205]

Wait a minute... Do you seriously still deny climate change is an actual thing? I thought climate deniers almost went extinct.

[@zbambi101]

Makes perfect sense to me.

[@KiraYamato227]

If we're talking about the more classic leaning liberals then yes. Modern day liberals are definitely not that. There needs to be a separation between Liberals and progressives.

[@thedavidpakmanshow]

+Gav we are talking about modern day progressives. that's what the statistics are about.

[@KiraYamato227]

Alright, thanks for the clear-up.

[@bigraviolees]

+Gav the separation between liberals and progressives is Liberals are cowards who will cave and not fight for their ideals

[@Rams3040]

+bigraviolees If by fighting you mean having a tantrum and call everyone a racist and a bigot, not to mention try to silence, threaten, deplatform and fire the opposition, then yes, classic leaning Liberals don't fight for their ideals. Maybe because they're not Ideologues.

[@kathyhansen2820]

Alright, you are brilliant, well educated, superior and elite in every sense of the word. Happy now?

[@wedgemahalo640]

Part of the problem here is how broad these definitions are. Too many people conflate social liberalism and economic liberalism. Two very different things.

[@docop8926]

I would love to see this fool debate Ben Shapiro....Shapiro would mop the floor with him

[@fellow026]

I have always thought of the left as the side of reason, science, and evidence. Until the sjw's starting going bonkers in last couple years. Now I worry that my fellow liberals are repelling their own by finding new reasons to call everyone racist.

[@BCNeil]

+David 666 feminists and sjws.....don't understand the first thing about science.

[@zachwilliamson13]

Agreed

[@serpentseed23]

The left is on the side of science when it confirms their beliefs. When you look at something like race and multiculturalism, they'll never talk about the plethora of data that goes against their utopian vision of a society with equal outcomes.

[@robm6645]

Nope, the left is still is the side of reason, science, and evidence. For all it's faults it is far better than the right, the crazys on the left are a minority and it's false equivalence to think otherwise. Barring evidence to the contrary of course.

[@fellow026]

+Rob McCune This might be too much to explain in a youtube comment, but I'll try. Liberals are on the side of reason and science on most issues. But not always with social justice/racism/police shootings, etc. Here's an example of how the conversation goes: the liberal says "The disproportionate number of black people killed by the police - 30% vs 12% of the population - must be a result of racist police officers." The conservative says "Well look at which neighborhoods have the most violent crime - black neighborhoods. So it's not a surprise the police will interact with more black people." This is then discarded as racist by the liberal. In some ways though, the conservative is right. In fact, of police officers who get shot, 43% are shot by black people. Liberals, however, will only compare the 30% shot by police to the %12 that are black. They see a discrepancy and call racism. I don't doubt there are racist police. But racism doesn't account for the discrepancy. So now I'm sitting here sounding like some kind of racist, only because the liberal talking points are so far off the mark that they are begging to be corrected. And when they are corrected, it makes one sound like a racist. I'm not sure if this makes sense, but I'll end the rant now.

[@rikke7098]

but what about people who are highly educated, and are also conservatives? Do you have the audacity to say that they're less intelligent? Or maybe they're secretly sadistic and lack empathy?

[@georgemarsone]

LOTS OF EDUCATION DOES NOT MAKE ANYONE LOGICAL NOR DO THEY DEVELOP COMMON SENSE...

[@markhepworth4804]

Because you're less likely to be ignorant about things if you are educated about things.

[@brianpowell6058]

Conservatives = Me Me Me. Liberals = Us Us Us.

[@brianpowell6058]

@Conservative Man strange how conservatives are always twisted. The people, especially those in America, are anywhere from 55% to 97% in favour of liberal or progressive idea's, depending on the idea. Idea's like toughening up gun control gets a 97% agreement, even among gun owners. A single-payer medical system gets consistently high percentages of agreement. A $15 minimum wage goes through the roof, as does student debt forgiveness and on and on and on. The only way conservatives and corporate shills get voted in is by voter suppression and by the two parties controlling who gets primaried.

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

Conservatives want small government, low taxes, free market, free speech, individualism and fiscal responsibility. Libtards want big government, high taxes, socialism, censorship, collectivism and government dependence

[@brianpowell6058]

@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 depends on what you call small government. Take that to it's logical conclusion and you become an isolationist country, without any trade with others.

[@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356]

@@brianpowell6058 it means a government that doesnt control your life

[@vincentgiasullo]

@@kittycatwithinternetaccess2356 I bet you love it when it comes to big tech, right?

[@theFemalemuscle1000]

people can call me liberal but the minority women and lgbt i am socially very conservative not because christanity but because i naturally feel that thing

[@dlg5485]

I think it comes down to critical thinking skills, mostly. Highly educated people are more likely to have developed the ability to think independently and reach conclusions about issues based on evidence, rather than beliefs. Being in an educational environment, in itself, challenges people in many ways, particularly by introducing diversity of thought, race and culture. Not spending all of your time in a bubble of familiarity leads to intellectual (and emotional) growth because in that environment you aren't afforded the luxury of pretending certain people or problems don't exist. In university, you have to face certain things and process them.

[@ConanVictor]

They aren't. This is just propaganda.

[@kingcrab5135]

No actually it's not that you get more liberal when you get more educated You get more liberal when you get more manipulated

[@theresewebnar1385]

I'm a proud educated independent. Both sides have issues.

[@uktenatsila9168]

Do you think that the more free exchange of Ideas a cross boarders in part due to the previous EU co-operation with Britain?

[@victoriasmith4208]

since I found out about religion on my own, I was liberated, I always leaned towards the left but after leaving religion superstitions now I accept and love more I am a stay home mom

[@ttamcc.4674]

well ig you had lukewarm love for God then if you left religion

[@victoriasmith4208]

@@ttamcc.4674 no, the truth should set u free, that’s why i can’t believe anymore

[@ttamcc.4674]

@@victoriasmith4208 buddy you didnt learn the truth you lost your faith. Which means you lost the truth, I’m srry you think that but it just isn’t tru

[@sebastiannin4655]

How can you love more after leaving your religion? What was keeping you back when you believed? That was a weird religion then. Also, if there is no God, It doesn't matter if you love or not.

[@outxofxtime]

If the teaching staff is overwhelmingly liberal, wouldn't the students naturally start to lean left?

[@b3at2]

Makabus Well ill tell you this... schools dont teach liberalism... or conservatism.. but after you have been taught skills and reasoning... you tend to become more liberal.

[@buggerall]

Then how come they are all liberals? Chicken and Egg, I guess...

[@adamanderson3042]

And the teaching staff is overwhelmingly liberal because the highly educated tend to be liberal.

[@thomasgrabkowski8283]

it depends. My school basically only teaches liberalism

[@davlor86]

It's not only in the U.S., but around the world actually

[@freedomfrench]

I find that when a person goes away to college, they tend (for the most part) to adapt to those around them; sometimes this causes a temporal shift in their belief system and unless they are secure in themselves, they will abandon the sound teaching they received as young children. I've seen several young people go a completely different way from the values instilled in them when they left for college. I've also seen a few who have grown in their value systems and become remarkable young adults. I do not believe it is an either or matter. Education can be a deal breaker or a value shaper....it all depends on the person.

[@rev.j.rogerallen9328]

Total B.S. I hold a doctorate and am extremely conservative.

[@markwilliams2620]

Rev. J. Roger Allen If your degree is in religion than I concur. Total BS.

[@adamanderson3042]

You're saying that anecdotes and personal accounts of exceptions prove that rules and averages are non-existent. I know a millionaire who was born, educated and made millions of dollars in Africa. I guess I just proved that Africa has just as many job opportunities and quality of life as the Western world, so suck it UN. You have reliably demonstrated how retarded conservatives are by your basic inability to grasp how averages work and you definitely don't have a doctorate, not that it would matter.

[@auntjenifer7774]

Highly indoctrinated, not educated.

[@NawiTheCore]

Conservatives are highly indoctrinated. They believe someone can walk on water and there's an almighty, all-knowing space wizard who allows suffering because two people wanted to have knowledge. Imagine how ignorant you have to be to believe that.

[@xeganxerxes4319]

Nahuel Not all Conservatives believe in God. Apparently all liberals believe that there are men who have vaginas.

[@slackhackman9115]

I'm writing a book called - That darn liberal!

[@timerockorchestra]

One of the reasons why the percentage of Conservatives stays steady throughout education levels, IMO, is because Conservative views are often motivated by religious beliefs. Therefore they tend to deny facts and evidence even when confronted with them at school. Someone with a college degree who is religious and was raised by fundamentalists will probably stay a Conservative no matter what.

[@Rams3040]

I'm starting to think that this channel is all about "look everyone how great and smart we Liberals are!". It's one ego-trip after another. If all Liberals want to do is congratulate themselves on how great and virtuous they all are, and how Conservatives are all stupid, then be my guest. However, I must tell you that most people find boastful self- flattery and pandering to be very obnoxious, and really not a sign of high intelligence. Besides, given the current situation on Colleges and Universities, quantity (as in the number of people enrolling in them) is no substitute for quality. Nowadays, you can have a Phd on Social studies (Gender studies, Women's studies,etc) even Star Trek lore for all I know. It's no longer an indicator that you actually know what you're talking about, or that you are even intelligent. Besides, shouldn't Liberals be worried that there is so little Intellectual Diversity in Colleges/High Education?

[@KiraYamato227]

+Ruben Ramalho Well, us Millennials tend to be more left-wing, and Millennials tend to be more narcissistic.

[@boudica3356]

Hold on, I know some college grads who can't conjugate a verb or construct a proper sentence (trump) so I agree with you on that point. I know some well read, intelligent people who did not attend/finish college. I believe getting a degree is something to be proud of, but not a necessity. It's entirely possible to be a college grad and remain ignorant (trump). I think this is a generalization, that's all. It's more a matter of conscience, critical thinking, empathy and compassion, and introspection, that make one a liberal.

[@anonymoususer8446]

No, it's only a fact that most college graduates are liberal. If cons want to try and take that as an insult, they can.

[@robertdietsche3610]

So little intellectual Diversity in Higher Education? Apparently you have never enrolled in higher education.

[@BrainToMush]

Because they're smarter, plain and simple.

[@Crusher6436]

Not necessarily. Both sides have ignorant people.

[@greenpenguin-clashroyale7526]

haha good one

[@dragoslavdelavega558]

I'm smart but I'm conservative!!

[@gorkyd7912]

LOL.

[@scotttaillet1133]

Ah, no.

[@elevatelife-nk7896]

This would be a good conversation to discuss again - looking at the trump era swing of voters moving conservative in 2016, and returning to center left, liberal.

[@bluerabbitjeevs]

What about age? It seems as tho the older generation have a more conservative belief system than the younger generation, and people say that's just because of a generational gap and that belief system will change when millennials get older. But I know a few people, my dad being one, who had liberal beliefs when they were in their youth but have a more conservative mindset now. Could it be because as you grow older, you become a bit cynical and realistic about how ineffective governments can be that you begin to look out for your self more than others? That's just a theory but it'd be cool if you could do a similar analysis on this area as well.

[@shawnhenryoliver]

There's no actual argument here - just claims without substantiation. To wit, the argument that conservatism is about doing things the way we always have isn't a description of conservatism. Furthermore, claiming that liberalism is about using science or how the university exposes you to a broader worldview do not automatically lead to a liberal viewpoint. If you are going to assume the position of an intellectually superior argument you need to actually present an argument. This is nothing more than a propaganda piece.

[@philosophicallyinclined3705]

Agreed.

[@duckymomo7935]

highly educated just means you can turn in assignments on time or regurgitate information, basically obedience

[@duckymomo7935]

joe jarden it's not absurd at all higher education, education in general is all about obdeence now

[@rebeccaed2018]

You actually think that you don't learn anything from studying? Have you ever tried?

[@b3at2]

College just does train you to be... trained. However it always teaches you to be a rebel.

[@azedthe]

Yeah school does make you obedient if you succeed in it which makes sense but you get educated through other terms then school if you actively seek intellectual progression for what ever reason

[@Bigmommafluffy]

You're not highly educated, are you?

[@coyotefever105]

Are you talking about liberal vs progressive or what?

[@sallowsquallsofficial6781]

I never finished school, but because of my dyscalculia, dyslexia and ADD, although the schools would simultaneously agree and disagree, and after being assessed through many tests, I ranked higher in intelligence and logical thinking than most others my age. I'm no genius, but I'm smart enough to know the outcome of, well, a bad idea. Professionally, I'm a designer, artist and illustrator, and I'm actually rather educated thanks to some self starting when I found out that public schools had no interest in teaching me anything if they couldn't do it their way. So, I took it upon myself to teach me the way I found best. It worked. Most people will automatically peg me as a liberal, because of my choices and lifestyle, because of my lifestyle and the fact that I live in a democratic city. But I'm actually a Republican. And when I say that, the first thing I get is dirty looks and constant accusations like: "you must be racist" "why do you hate women?" "You're probably a conspiracy theorist." I wasn't raised in a racist environment. I didn't learn about racism, really, until I went to summer school and the black student's bullied me into submission. I believe in women's right, and abortion is one of the few things I do agree with liberals on, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist.lol I'm just not. And, of course, people assume I'm completely stupid and fear change. I don't, and maybe stupidity is objective, but I'm a Republican for one simple reason: Liberals favor socialist and communistic ideologies. And no matter how they they describe it, no matter who is in position of power, they never work, and they never will. It's made clear that liberals share more empathy than Republicans do and set up these unrealistic fantasy worlds where no one requires real money to live happily and the government is dedicated to their citizens and the freebies don't come with a price. But that too doesn't exist. Dreaming of a better world is wonderful, but the logic behind is not there, and understanding that people under socialist rule would eventually see change from vast wealth and prosperity to less money and eventually massive debt via the government's spending. And only them and their wealthy counterparts would sustain a lifestyle that the lower classes could never reach. These systems fail, and that cannot and will not change. Understanding how the human brain works in positions of power is the only way you can know exactly what's going to happen before it happens. An all powerful government does not care about the average citizen. Your will being in a socialist and communist reign holds no weight. You are a number. You are a worker. You are a slave.

[@FloridaCoast]

Because it's not really true. A guy I work with is very intelligent, and he's a republican trump supporter. But he has dogmatic views though.

[@packr72]

Nice anecdotal evidence there.

[@xraceboyex]

+John Forrest So you consider having "dogmatic" views as being intelligent... interesting

[@FloridaCoast]

+Brian Emmett No I mean, he's smart. But he says things like, "This is a Christian country."

[@FloridaCoast]

+joe jarden That's pretty much the case. But he does have a degree in robotics though.

[@xraceboyex]

John Forrest Interesting. It always confuses me when intelligent people are fundamentally religious and conservative. However, that statement would be pretty true: about 70% of our population identifies as "Christian". Surely not all conservatives are uneducated, but it definitely seems like a trend.

[@dallasduff5830]

Higher education definitely pushes a left wing agenda. This is empirically proven. FYI the more I learn about the more world the more conservative Ive become.

[@Khalkara]

+Dallas Duff What emperical evidence backs that up exactly? And what discoveries about the world led you to become more conservative? I'm curious.

[@brandonaguilera5713]

My guess is you've never been to a university but go on lol

[@SZUSEast1]

you sound like a little bitch lmao

[@impalabeeper]

So one year now and no reply? Guess Dallas Duff is indeed a moron. Personally, I did become more liberal as I traveled more.

[@gforce97]

If its about money and taxes, it shows how ungenerous you are!!

[@user-vu4hr4fk3t]

Highly educated people tend to be more polite and more inclined to the rule of law, being highly educated doesn't necessarily means that you are smart . So you don't need to be smart to be highly educated .

[@dbzguru32]

I think a definite factor is social cohesion. When people go from high school to college they often go from a smaller city to a bigger one and come into contact with more people. We all know the astronomically screwed distribution of liberals in the city vs conservatives in rural areas. I think college has a similar psychological effect to living in a highly populated city. Being around more people just makes you more likely to care about people.

[@christelheadington1136]

The more you seek knowledge, the more you think for yourself. Not necessarily, formal education, simply expanding knowledge.

[@bottomsjohn88]

That's all cool I would actually say the Highly educated are independent.... You know because you realize you don't need labels

[@NawiTheCore]

I think being liberal vs conservative also has to do with personality and capacity for empathy. If you know someone is suffering and you can do something to help that person, even if you have to give some of your own wealth, you'll do it because you know at the end of the day, it could happen to you or anyone you know and you can empathize with that person. You don't have the capacity to feel empathy towards others, if you're selfish and self-centered, etc. higher education isn't going to change your political views.

[@ErutaniaRose]

I always feel really strange when I study this because I am a liberal-leaning moderate but I absolutely loath school. I love education, but...schooling is just not education. If it was, I would not have PTSD from it. Yes, real PTSD. I was treated as less than human by most of the people in charge. I got in trouble for asking questions, and for getting anything wrong. I was so scared of making a mistake, I would just go into my own head and ignore everything happening around me, hoping for it to end. I was in such a state of mind that I said, numerous times, "If real life is like school, I'm going to kill myself." Luckily, the real world is not as Authoritarian where I am. But, within it, I was constantly emotionally and physically abused throughout elementary school, and it became more emotional as I got older. My point is, I hate school, I want everyone to have their human rights, including children, and it is really scary to do research on the topic of education reform because as soon as I point out anything remotely liberal, the hate spews out from the more extreme conservatives on the internet. I just want everyone to be treated like they are humans who deserve love...is that so wrong?

[@ikerivers1795]

Education is not the sole property of Universities. It's more that the greater amount of degrees you have, the more liberal you are.

[@AshleySteelxxx]

I went to college a bit later than most people as well, and I switched my thinking towards more socially liberal so I’m part of this statistic. I grew up hanging out with Nazis and white supremecists, and believing a lot of that rhetoric until I went to college and took anthropology and learned how to apply the scientific method etc. but I think for me personally, the main factors in becoming more liberal was 2 fold. 1) in college they foster more critical thinking. It’s where I learned (what should have been obvious) to question what you’re told. Don’t believe everything you read or everything someone tells you because it doesn’t make it true. Before college I would be part of the problem, repeating information that someone shared with me as if they were facts. When it was simply propaganda... so critical thinking is major in that growth. And 2) I learned how to apply the scientific method. I had to take statistics and research methods and really start to understand how a study or data set could be manipulated based on what standards you measure by or what variables you choose to exclude or include, etc. and that alone made me realize that even scientific data that’s presented as facts by what I used to think are reputable sources, is often skewed to fit a certain perspective. Things are taken out of context, and control groups aren’t used, and they don’t take into account variables that are rampant in the study sample, etc etc etc. That’s my personal experience. Mainly just learning to question information and fact check something before I believe it, let alone repeat it to someone. Perhaps this is why they don’t want us to be educated in this country. When you realize that you’ve been lied to your whole life, it makes you more vigilant in verifying data before you believe it. And that inadvertently leads to being more liberal. Because conservative ideas are actually not based in science and the more data that’s released the more we realize the liberal ideas are actually based much more in facts, not propaganda or data variable manipulation. Critical thinking will lead to more liberalism in this country. And we’ve even seen that in other countries as well. We wonder why the most successful countries have socialized medicine and other socialism based ideas, and fairer democracy, it’s pretty obvious why. But even in those countries people are susceptible to propaganda and rhetoric. We’ve got the trump effect now moving around the world... which is so sad for those countries. But perhaps it will lead to more data that proves once again that conservative policies destroy economies and create wage gaps that hurt all the citizens. One can hope.

[@Code_Dee]

Well you know what they say, reality has a liberal bias

[@keithmoriyama5421]

What is the purpose of the puppet on the side?

[@lkf-gu4ls]

i just happened to come across this word, just today, coincidently." Illiberal", and so looked it up. This is what it says. as it's definition:

[@galactichand551]

Wow. This wasn’t incredibly skewed to the left. . .🙄

[@lightbox617]

Hey. The more you learn, the more you know. If I was the Emperor of the Universe, I would make it mandaotry for everyone seeking public office to get at least an Associates degree (in anything) and spend an aggregate of 6 months in another country preferably one that does not speak the candidates native language. I am incredibly luck to have spent 2 to 3 monthes in Europe (usually Central or Eastern) for the last 10 years. I have leaned how governments, especially Urban goverments handle everything from trash collection to Policing to treatment of students and the homeless. It always breaks my heart to come back home to Newark, NJ and see where we fall short in so many of those areas.

[@mermaidwe2743]

Because exposure to a variety of ideas, and people with different ideas or backgrounds increases our understanding and increases or tolerance for diversity.

[@mrjacobwilson24]

The more someone understands other points of view, the more likely they are to empathize with those who hold those points of view.

[@horsepanther]

I think there are a variety of reasons for this but one of the primary ones is that you must meet a minimal level of intelligence and ability to think critically to get into college, so university students/graduates are disproportionately brighter and able to evaluate incoming information better than the general population. Many people may choose not to go to college, but it also sifts out people who don't have the intellectual capability for college.

[@samanthaspano3652]

Two thoughts: 1) 2:30 Saying the belief that colleges and graduate programs indoctrinate people into liberalism is "just fear mongering" and "not even worth entertaining" is crazy and really invalidates your arguments IMO. This video is clearly just a heavily biased opinion piece 2) I don't necessarily think the indoctrination of top universities is always from classes themselves (although sometimes). In my experience, it was mainly social pressure. I'm pretty politically moderate, and the few times I expressed any slightly conservative views to my college friends, they banded together to shame me, yell at me, laugh, and tell me how ridiculous my beliefs were. I superficially pretended to be a superliberal for the next few years just to avoid that crazy nonsense. I know my experience isn't unique. There's a recent video (kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZy7laOLmaaqfsk) where a guy asks UPenn students and regular people on the street 'can men get pregnant' and the regular people on the street readily give their honest opinions (some yes, some no), but the UPenn students ALL say "yes" even when you can sense that a few of them feel differently but they feel too pressured to say anything other than yes.

[@samanthaspano3652]

Additional thoughts: The argument that liberals are more empathetic gets so old - you THINK you're more empathetic. You love the idea of opening the borders and taking in refugees until they're invading your own city causing crime. You love veganism until it means giving up tires, sugar, and musical instruments. You love protesting against petroleum until it means ditching most of the shit in your own house. You love letting kids transition to another gender at age 10 until those kids grow up, have a voice and rational thoughts, and say they were taken advantage of. You're a bunch of delusional, virtue signaling, self righteous hypocrites. Contrary to popular belief, moderates/conservatives don't hate people or have no feelings. Many of us would want many of the same things as you liberals, but we're logical and realistic about what makes sense to actually implement. Look at the current border situation. All the liberals wanted open borders until they got their wish. Now everyone wants the refugees out of their cities. Shocker. If our taxes were being used for anything useful like healthcare, schools, homeless citizens, parks, I'd never complain about taxes, but look what our sky high taxes are being used for. They're going to things like free housing, free food, and free transportation for the millions of dangerous and ungrateful illegal immigrants invading our country, while we still have almost 1M homeless citizens, expensive greedy private healthcare system which hardly even covers procedures, shitty schools unless you live in a rich neighborhood, and trashed public parks. Throwing more tax money at the government doesn't magically mean they'll do anything useful with it! Again, delusional.

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

Education creates critical thinking people. An uneducated population is the wet dream for any oligarchy. Is it coincidence the U.S education ranked nr.5 on the global scale in the sixties,while It ranks nr.17 today ?

[@majarimennamazerinth5753]

How do we respect the opinions of the educated more without turning to "a lion does not concern itself with the opinions of the sheep"?

[@janisl.6982]

Very much also, because very few people are well learned in economics and more concerned for social issues. So they are more free thinking and progressive than they are conservative. If it was between people that care for economics and have studied them(either personally or academically) it would be a lot closer to a 50|50 split between liberal and libertarian as both value social persobal liberties.

[@mikebrownplayingguitar1253]

A vocational skill,common sense,life skills and making money is more important than education

[@calebelliott1168]

Quoting Rick Santorum…Lol 😂.

[@goinaviking]

Uhm, this data was not broken down by degree or field of study. It has been shown that in the hard sciences (I believe in the same study), the liberal/conservative ratio is more consistant with the social order of the students upbringing and thus reflects pretty even with the state of the country. However, it can easily be observed that social sciences and other non-technical degree fields, the ratio is highly skewed towards liberalism. Why? Is it that the liberal "liberal arts" professors push their ideals onto moldable students? Or is it that the students that are drawn to such fields of study are more likely to be liberal minded? IMHO it is a mix. Yet with science and engineering, this is not the case, and thus suggests no correlation with "intelligence" but with preset ideals.

[@johnalley1640]

The more informed and educated a person is the better they understand how things work and are better at makeing competent decisions.

[@ttamcc.4674]

competent??? Says the one who votes for people that cant understand the concept of gender and you talk about being more educated and informed

[@lukescurrenthobby4179]

"The liberal side has become to side of science...this include abortion" get a load of this guy 😂 you go ahead and keep on killing clumps-of-human-cells bud

[@CJW0056]

When you you can't define "woman", you've lost the claim to science, absolutely delusional these people

[@hankhill4401]

@@CJW0056 lol they lack logical consistency to a frightening degree. Mental gymnastics is a sight to behold

[@kathykelly5930]

social liberalism has been found to be quite common in those with high IQ's, but so has fiscal conservatism.

[@alllmns9732]

Education through governed institutions or self education? Big difference in outcome.

[@sulebo2153]

Well educated people are readers. Readers learn both sides of a story, understand that nothing in life is black and white, and engage in critical thinking to form their own opinions rather than just adopting the beliefs of a cult leader.

[@joemcnease1]

David cracks me up. I wish I was as good as getting my point across in a nice way as he is. I just tell people what I think and don't give a shit past that and people as a general rule hold that against you. Of course he is obviously smarter than me communication wise but he is always spot on with what I think he just says it better. Of course I'm 6' 250lbs so that may make a difference too. I figure what they gonna do? lol

[@tobylangdale95]

there are some people, myself included, who as a rule avoid putting labels on themselves or others, unless they say so. being realistic and objectives leads one to be liberal on some things and conservative on others while not pushing their views on others.