WHY are We Fighting with RELICS? (Foxhole Relic War Lore)

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[@davidty2006]

"why are we fighting with relics?" Is this a coincidence this is releassed near the naval update that the colonial heavy truck is 300 year old design?

[@mikemcghin5394]

And the battleships are pre dreadnoughts

[@riseup3150]

I love these lore videos

[@lonewaffle231]

If it aint broke dont fix it hmm?

[@alpacaofthemountain8760]

Eh you can always do better

[@hresvelgr7193]

@@mikemcghin5394Nah the battleships are definitely dreadnoughts. The Callahan has an identical turret layout to HMS Dreadnought, the only difference being the wing turrets are slightly smaller. The Titan looks more like a late Dreadnought or later

[@raphaelrodriguez8316]

I have developed a new head canon theory, not sure if someone else came up with this too, that every new game update is a step backwards into the Foxhole timeline when the Wardens and Colonials had the industrial and technological capacity for more types of weapons. And the end of the timeline is when there are only a few hundred soldiers left fighting with basic rifles.

[@TheREPPIX]

I like that theory, it makes more sense than the victory points being captured and everything being sent back to the way it was and a nother war breaking out again due to the worst politics I've ever seen

[@weebooooo]

I like this theory but were the first foxhole wars only a few hundred soldiers left with basic rifles?

[@raphaelrodriguez8316]

@@weebooooo Well, I started playing Foxhole about halfway through it's current development, and a few KZbinrs I've followed have footage of some of the earliest wars. With players getting excited about the recent inclusion of armored vehicles (halftracks), and before that the game was just trucks for logistics, and weapons for infantry skirmishing.

[@grugmangaming5152]

For the record, Gameplay is not typically not equal to lore in most discussions of any setting, You'd have to look more at text and visual outside of gameplay (by visual, videos to pictures). Technology and innovation in Foxhole has always been growing if we go by lore descriptions of a good lot of vehicles. Ie, Outlaws were made to try and counter mass Falchion squadrons. A update is just, a update and only serves to fill in what's missing visually, if that's the best that can be said.

[@redcell9636]

​@@grugmangaming5152 What you are describing is "ludonarrative dissonance" In most cases the lore does not reflect the gameplay. However, as a casual observer of this game, i'd say its a lot closer. I actually like to think with the lore implications of eldritch stuff going on, and the references to other low and dark fantasy franchises and settings, along with game events like the "zombie event" being somewhat impactful, i'd say the idea that "the lore doesnt matter" is exactly why the lore matters. _"The first casualty in war is the truth"_ foxholes limited lore and conflicting view points proves this. The world had one big "Mechanicus Moment" and are trying to retrieved their lost tech, but still _technically_ being at war prevents them from doing this. Hence each "war" that happens. This is just my take away.

[@Thedirtshed]

general: “heres what money we have left, build more nuked” Colies and warden: proceed to attack a single tower with 100 men with grenades

[@va_sirberpasir9708]

I think the dev try to imply that since the wars been raging for hundred of years. Its not due to tech lost to time, more like lost knowledges because the engineers making them died during the durations of the war.

[@sebastiannavarro9686]

So... Basically the humanity of the Warhammer 40k universe but in a single planet and a ww2 esthetic?

[@grugmangaming5152]

@@sebastiannavarro9686 Pardon if I come off rude but, Do not compare this games universe to 40k. It's more like if the classical world, with its values, with WWII levels of industry and science. The war between the Wardens/Caoivish and the Colonial/Mesean Republic is more akin to the Picts vs the Roman Republic.

[@sebastiannavarro9686]

@@grugmangaming5152 Nah, you aren't rude, and your point makes sense, I just said that from a very very superficial similarity (a conflict so long that tech from the past have been lost, warcrimes being as common as breakfast), but yeah, you are right 👍

[@nilsfreund9559]

@@sebastiannavarro9686 whats breakfast, I only know pre-charge Rations

[@thakisher]

You know ur addicted to this game when you spent hrs to build a tank just to pull up in da front alone . foxhole is so awsome been playing since war 103 .

[@one-eyed-dragon]

Glad to be able to have helped with this video mate! Just need to comment on some stuff. The Weathered Expanse battlefield is NOT from the time of Silas Maro, he never got past Abandoned Ward and fighting never reached that far north during this time, not until several decades later. The best theory as to why there is a battlefield of relic vehicles is that at some poin the Relic Vaults of the Hanged Men were blown open, leading to their contents being used by colonials and wardens to fight each other. Storm Tanks and Armoured Tractors are also probably a bit older than the HIC and Phalanx, so they may not have coincided much on the proper battlefield. I wait patiently for the next one, remember I am always there to help you with stuff XD

[@beeflord]

Thank you for the clarification and for your help!

[@originalcharacterplznostea2749]

6:09 there's a part where the segment repeats itself. Great video otherwise, rip the Heavy Infantry Carrier

[@beeflord]

I will be unable to sleep now

[@TemperateGreenBananaClassic]

what kind of monster would wake a dying man because of two words being repeated

[@INSVRGENT]

"why are we fighting with relics???" pretty realistic since the Mosin nagant is still in use for over 125 years irl.

[@nighthawk3305]

Angry toob

[@INSVRGENT]

@@nighthawk3305 kaboom stick

[@gaming_gamer483]

6:10 “So now you have an understanding of where and when the relic vehicles come from, so now you have an understanding of where and when the relic vehicles come from” greatest quote on this channel ever

[@beeflord]

So now you have an understanding of where and when relic vehicles come from!!!

[@yosi2142]

always looking forward to your foxhole lore vids

[@chesterpanda]

The lore reminds me a lot of STCs in WH40k. They attempt recreate these weapons lost to time, but can’t. The best weapons and vehicles are thousands of years old and can never be recreated.

[@Jebu911]

yeah i like the 40k tech vibe that they put into the games lore. Lot of games i like actually use the same setup theres just something interesting about lost super tech.

[@riseup3150]

I really like that fan art at 3:28 thanks for including it.

[@spartanalex9006]

Reminds me of the technological decline in BattleTech. Destruction of Industry and Institutional knowledge has meant that modern war is fought with Mechs and Tanks held together with field modification, dependent on looting and salvage to maintain logistics, and remaining advanced technology is zealously guarded.

[@wolfmoonens3378]

So just ww1 40k reasons in some ways? With the whole exctra powerfull relic weapons

[@genericname4739]

Like the video but there might be some discrepancies. Technology seems to advamce pretty slowly with some momets of a arms race. The Velian Civil War was fought with Muzzle load muskets and cannons. The great wars started not long after that and The Breach was one of the first major events of the Great War so im not fully certain tanks were used to breach the Warden's great wall. A lot of weapons have a prefix such as the KRR2-790 Omen, Blakerow 871, and Lance 36 which should maybe allude to the recent centuries of Foxhole. The Year 1,000 is definately a decent guess for a date though with vehicles like the Lance 36, Flood Mk. I, and Lance 40 Halberd my guess is marked at around 940. The Great Wars have been fought not two but several centuries and like in game it is regularly a back and forth war so a lot of vehicles and tanks littering the battlefield are wreckage from centuries before in late 700 to early 800. It is very possible too that every battlefield a player fights one lies forgotten Argentis and Loughcasters, and below them Omens and Cinders, and further below muskets. And there is a reason one could say Great Wars and not Great War. It isnt one war it is multiple and possibly that multiple wars even ones actively fought by players are just combined into one larger war. I am by no means a expert on foxhole lore, but this is still great video though. A lot of ambiguity and guess work with piecing together the lore, but the Great Wars are just mind bogglingly long, intricate, and info very mixed up it is just hard to figure out all the lore.

[@waterbears9874]

The thing I find hardest to accept with foxholes tech is how the other counties outside the conflict don’t have more advanced tech. Like I can accept the idea of a war so destructive it set technology back for the participants, but it seems to me that everyone is kinda on the same level

[@changeling5984]

I wholeheartedly agree with you, but for the sake of argument, what if the outside countries are also embroiled in war because of the calamitous consequences of Foxhole's war?

[@waterbears9874]

@@changeling5984 true, but i feel like if they were involved in any way besides providing equipment, i feel like that would be a lot more evident. like at least some random lore bit stating something about foreign soldiers or conflict outside to caovia-veli front. the only other explanation i can think of is that this war somehow managed to continuously drain the rest of the world of resources, and even then i dont understand how that would even happen

[@changeling5984]

@waterbears9874 Could be a British Empire type situation where the drain on all of the overseas territories hampered anybody else's ability to advance, though that in and of itself is contradictory, right now, I consider Foxholes lore to be incomplete and inaccurate, which is a shame since it's such a unique world. Anyhow, I've convinced myself that the Bulwark wasn't breached in the 700s, but rather the 850s or even the 900s with some 30 years of incredibly devastating fighting incomparable with the first or second World War. This at least makes somewhat more sense technology wise.

[@TheREPPIX]

I feel like the devs are trying to miss direct us and that most the lore is incomplete or inaccurate due to how devastating the wars have been, and I also believe that time keeps repeating every time the war ends like some kind of horrible nightmare with the world caught in a loop, I mean I know foxholes political system must be bad for this war to happen in the first place but bad enough for an endless feud between just two factions? Now of course I understand that the definition of insanity doesn't apply to foxhole but still I feel like Caoiva would get a decent archon at one point that would stop this if the popular theory was the case. Don't you think the other nations would step in if a war keeps repeating or one of the belligerence make an alliance to help end the war once and for all?

[@waterbears9874]

@@changeling5984 I like to imagine that we aren’t fighting an infinite war each war, just alternate endings to the war

[@scoutguard3015]

Can you do a lore video about Foxhole's food lore? (not the meme one but one regarding the actual lore of the game)

[@beeflord]

I definitely will eventually

[@scoutguard3015]

Great to hear have a nice day.

[@chesterpanda]

Write a cookbook also.

[@ryanallmaras1337]

Isn't the Machine gun sitting on the table at 5:33 just the old HMG from the earlier days of Foxhole?

[@Callsign_Bear]

Maybe that's the point? I dunno 🤷‍♂️

[@blueberrybird2147]

This makes me really really want to go lore hunting, but I don't even know where or how to start hunting for the lore

[@beeflord]

Check out the lore wiki that The one eyed Dragon is updating, also the prometheans foxhole lore library on discord has all the locations.

[@blueberrybird2147]

@@beeflord I didn't know we had a lore library discord

[@largerootbeer2019]

bruh that "relic" machine gun is an old model for the machine gun before it got turned into two, it was a funny weapon

[@Archris17]

It also rather obviously resembles the Ma Deuce, an infamously large and powerful chonker of an MG :P

[@Handles_arent_a_needed_feature]

​@@Archris17hearing the word chonker makes me feel physical pain

[@Vyes]

Big Chungus Chonker cha cha cha

[@generalkidd3832]

Nice lore, now do a Ship lore or navy lore once it's out in the test branch

[@beeflord]

I shall

[@hollister_rusty]

good day folk,tx for u work

[@resngaming2640]

Heard you were doing some pirating last night w people from my regiment(SUS). Here to sub 🎉

[@jordanmagpiebullet7978]

Amazing job keep them coming

[@VarenvelDarakus]

you also dont have to look far , look at ukraine where russians use tanks 30 , 50 , and 60 years old , its not a stretch that if war raged for 50 years they would even consider using ww2 tanks

[@Alsemenor]

So do the Ukranians though. The EU has dug deep into its own reserves, both of Cold War era soviet tanks and western designs.

[@VarenvelDarakus]

@@Alsemenor war have not ended yet tho , noone knows how long it gono last.

[@strongback6550]

This was actually the plan during the Cold War that the Sherman would be re-mobilized by the allies, and the T-34 by Warsaw pact due to the estimated casualties being so high that most of the good stuff wouldn't probably be around for longer than a year, if that.

[@agentbarron3945]

@@Alsemenor Pretty much everything in service by every country is pushing 30 at this point. Thats when the sov union collapsed and military budgets across the world were slashed

[@denmarkball7728]

6:10 weird editing error

[@beeflord]

Fml

[@gigachad3506]

beef is lord

[@Fish_King]

holy SHIT I love foxhole lore videos

[@mench104]

Yes

[@VELIkiq8]

1:13 how could they do that to me!!??

[@notusneo]

W40K teach me that fighting with relic era weapon is not only viable but also encouraged

[@alpacaofthemountain8760]

Need to play this game

[@sharpetutor227]

So you mean to tell me the empire is not the aggressor in this world?

[@plussum3255]

The lore is pretty cool, the tech is dope as

[@larubric]

I have the answer. Both sides put their tech maids in different coloured maid dresses. The war has been fought for millennia.

[@beeflord]

Its true, devs literally confirmed it

[@jordangames5028]

Love the vid bro

[@fredrushmd]

Because Aliens

[@beeflord]

Damn u right

[@nicolasstabowski3803]

Why I build airplanes for Bombardier... shame on me

[@maxwellvindman7212]

AC 5 be like

[@spr12314]

Bruh if they are breaking into vaults why cant they have areas that requires heavy explosives to open up and be able to get some of these relic tanks

[@Maj_Problem]

Commenting!!!

[@mozzym770]

WeEkLy BiDeOs???

[@beeflord]

REALITY

[@danielazar8655]

You're discord link is invalid 😢

[@roranmc9514]

chat gpt script?

[@beeflord]

Chat gpt would have been more coherent

[@roranmc9514]

XD, sry thatt was a mean comment, I take it back@@beeflord

[@WiseOwl_1408]

Extremely lame lore. I see why this is not well known

[@MariSad_Crying]

now we need naval lore