Why Awakened Kundalini is Required for True Non-Dual Gnosis

[@Anders01]

That's a great explanation you made about how even the body is an object in our awareness.

[@francoisconstanty9162]

"silence before bliss". Love that. It is in the silence between his words that I feel the most the subtile energy of Presence. Beware of freshly awakened teachers, they are maybe very magnetic but it is only the presence of energy, not the energy of Presence.

[@Lakshman_ananda]

Thank you for this highly descriptive and illustrative account of the nature of experience 🙏

[@Team_IK]

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[@Veej77]

What time pls (UK) -Tks!

[@Lakshman_ananda]

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[@eugene_kwon]

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[@Lakshman_ananda]

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[@eugene_kwon]

In UK time, I believe it's 4pm, @@Veej77. If you navigate the webpage provided, you'll find a timezone converter there.

[@katepi9416]

Thank you ❤

[@frithjofgioertz]

One thing I don't understand is will. Will is spoken here of the absolute will? That which comes from the causal realm? It is a bit confusing to me because ultimately, individual will is absolute will in my understanding. So on some level of understanding the means of Nara (I forgot, was it anavupaya?) are the means of Shiva?

[@purepower3809]

They use knowledge to use as key to open a door within youre mind to unlock more of the awareness of what you are

[@natalielockwood5840]

@purepower3809 I understand. But that " awareness" is just mental awareness. In practice when one sits with themself, this does not help them to arrive at any deeper states of awareness. In fact, it seems very well it could be a distraction because now one has an idea of what deeper states seemingly "are", instead of the experience of deeper states. If their experience does not align with what their mind thinks it understands, then they will be derailed or searching to match or align with their notions and not aligned with experience. Maybe I am off here, but that is what it seems.

[@purepower3809]

@@natalielockwood5840 each journey is different but having experienced full connection with the higher mind through meditation and having coming out of the meditation seeing everything as it is without a sense of i any longer the truth is that the self is beyond mind it is only pure changeless awareness without any sense of self it only sees itself and the dream that is manifest in its awareness when you return to the core of youre awareness the 2 becomes 1 then becomes 0

[@purepower3809]

When I go out into nature and I let all labels go all ideas all beliefs even the belief I am anything or anyone and then let that go the effortlessness of the return to the truth is so profound and easy and then you only feel and see the perfect connection with oneness and the illusion of separateness disappears before you eyes you realize it is only your sense of i in your mind that is blocking you’re perception of the real we know nothing our minds can’t grasp anything only the divine spirit with in knows everything because it is everything it is life itself just stop pretending to be what you are not all this information is there to make you less of someone to make you think less so you can realize you were never the mind in the first place. Blessings

[@purepower3809]

@@natalielockwood5840 each journey is different but having experienced full connection with the higher mind through meditation and having coming out of the meditation seeing everything as it is without a sense of i any longer the truth is that the self is beyond mind it is only pure changeless awareness without any sense of self it only sees itself and the dream that is manifest in its awareness when you return to the core of youre awareness the 2 becomes 1 then becomes 0

[@purepower3809]

each journey is different but having experienced full connection with the higher mind through meditation and having come out of the meditation seeing everything as it is without a sense of i any longer the truth is that the self is beyond mind it is only pure changeless awareness without any sense of self it only sees itself and the dream that is manifest in its awareness when you return to the core of youre awareness the 2 becomes 1 then becomes 0

[@MichaelDamianPHD]

When the neo-advaita absolutists dismiss kundalini or "bliss," it is always from the most narrow and superficial view of what it is --- i.e. as a temporary nice feeling or sensation. What they discuss is always the most childish view that a seeker may have of it --- and not from a comprehensive understanding of its role and nature as/within Consciousness.

[@kkst3552]

What is not temporary? Does permanence imply a higher value or anything of use. Who is higher A crackhead who is almost blissed out or a social media, loving accountant, who is going through a divorce? If the people are going to clean, Bliss has no value, they have not experienced bliss. If the people are going to clean that bliss with meditative silence, sharp mind and the feeling of no self is a worthless delusion then tell me what is not worthless. Perhaps meditation is worth no more then recreational drugs and alcohol but that is not the experience of those that meditate. You can’t prove anything, because all we know is an existence exist and we can feel existence existing but we don’t know if any of the names of hallucinations within our existence are accurate and truthful. Dreams are things that are real within unreality. Dreams are real, but none of what you think you seein a dream is real. René Descartes was determined to prove that God is real, despite his familiarity with hallucinations. Descartes was fully aware of the problem of telling what is a hallucination from what is reality. When I was going through a suicidal existence of crisis, because my brother has been murdered, and I had discovered that I was just an imitation of my brother and father, not an authentic real person I had a bad reaction to that understanding and attempted suicide at age 17 and as my treatment plan for my misery, and being an imitation I decided to find the truth, but the west had very little to offer in this truth, seeking field other than Descartes who was so inferior to what India had. At least Descartes sincere but he did not want to be like Galileo being sent to prison for saying the Earth revolves around the sun so the cart was not going to undermine Christian conceptions of God. The truth is, “I think, therefore I am” is not a sophisticated truth, but rather the “assertion either for I.” Most humans think they exist, despite the lack of evidence that their interpretation of their existence is incorrect. Hallucinations exist But you cannot prove that any of the interpretations of the hallucinations are true. So you can have your bliss or you can forget about bliss and just get money which usually does come with a wife if you want a wife. Bliss is better than money But which of moneyand Bliss is more permanent?

[@Alex722]

@@kkst3552 Anything mental and physical is transient. Awareness is permanent. You are both.

[@natalielockwood5840]

One of things I do not quite get is why Igor and Team keep posting these lecture type classes. To me they only speak to the mind. So now one is full of knowledge and further away from experience. To me it seems the danger of continuing to engage in these type of informational knowledge based videos. They do not seem to help move one beyond the mind into a deeper awareness, but only give concepts and ideas about it.

[@JakePomper]

If you want to go beyond the mind, attend a live immersion 😉

[@purepower3809]

You have to realize who you are. you know you’re not the mind so ask yourself who is the one aware that you are not the mind and who is the changeless timeless one that perceives all that you have experienced up to this point this is you the awareness it is consciousness the mind is only a tool for the past year I have cleaned my mind even further and accepted that this information I have learned is good but it is like a key once the door is open and I have walked through it I no longer needed the key throw it away lest it burden you you’re mind it can not grasp the truth the more you try and figure the truth out with you’re mind the further you get from what it is ask yourself why is life the guru because life will attack what you are not because the real you and you’re experience are not 2 but 1 the self is you’re life and it is guiding you’re fake self back to itself there are no accidents no luck no chaos there is only the one. fear is only the destruction of what you are not and what I have found is at some point this information will be used by youre mind to attack youre sense of self so you don’t desolve into the truth of what you are. The easiest way to realization is be at peace know you know nothing surrender and flow with life. The one thing that came to me just before my first full connection with the self was THE HEART AND THE MIND MUST BECOME ONE FOR YOU TO PERCEIVE THE TRUTH. Blessings

[@nataliezahorsky237]

I've learned that the in person immersions are the vehicle for direct experience.. I take these lectures as necessary in order to have the conceptual 1st in order to let go of it

[@natalielockwood5840]

@@nataliezahorsky237 thank you

[@aquaram1111]

That’s fine, awakening can begin or be deepened by grokking these concepts.

[@aerosolnowy2619]

“I don’t understand why many spiritual teachers talk about joy, happiness, or love as achievable goals. There is no such thing because it’s subjective. I saw a video where Igor Kufajev asked Tony Parson about this. Tony denied it, and in my opinion, he was right because there is no such place.” “I believe that Tony disregards Kundalini because he thinks it’s only about specific experiences. I understand that Kundalini encompasses everything that exists. So, whatever arises is precisely that, and the realization of Kundalini awakening, accompanied by specific experiences, leads to the discovery that this is all there is.” "In my opinion, that would be disappointing for many people because human nature tends to seek happiness and love. People often desire extraordinary experiences, especially when experimenting with psychedelics. However, it eventually becomes evident that everything that exists, whether it’s happiness or suffering, is part of the same fabric. It’s akin to a universal life energy that shapes everything, including birth and death in this world." “Everything is like a mirror for consciousness, and it’s quite sad because our self is also part of that mirror, and there’s nothing we can do about it. Our self in this world is not real.”

[@kkst3552]

Osho told his disciples that he cares deeply about our suffering but deep down inside he’s giggling because I was suffering is fake and not real. Abrahamic religions sometimes believe that the more teaching of their religions is the only thing between humanity and the violent thuggery that is typical of chimpanzee culture. But Modern atheists are not more thuggish than Christian Jews and Muslims. So that idea that some religious authority must impose religious order to preserve morality, is false. There is no evidence for the idea that strict religion reduces crime. I’ve spent much time in non-dual religious communities, and I don’t see any problem created by Non duel, thinking. It looks like problems will arise In non-dual culture, but these problems never arise because there are mental work around patches that fix any problems that Nondual thinking might create. Duel, thinking, does not fit well with science and truth, and meditation. The worst problem that I’ve seen with Non-dual thinking is people tolerating bad things because they think the bad things are not real and therefore, did not see the urgency to fix wrongs and an efficiency. Corporate world can function just fine with Non-dual thinking as long as they don’t forget that the prime goal is to make money for the shareholders. I spent a few years in India because I liked India’s sophisticated Non-dual thinking. India can make computer software which is completely intolerant of mistakes, and yet India can fail at manufacturing because India in general is too tolerant of mistakes. Hopefully the best hybrid of western and eastern thinking is still yet to come.

[@Kevin-zc7dv]

More like blast off.😊

[@pwcrabb5766]

Difficult to understand his speech

[@kkst3552]

I grew up in Boston suburbs . Prior to living in India for two years I had some difficulty with accents. Even though Jamaican accents are nothing like Indian accents getting used to Indian accent helped me understand Jamaican accents. I sat with Osho and Bhau Kalchuri listening to them Give discourses in English, and I could be hard to understand Bhau and while Understanding Osho’s english was easier many people did have trouble understanding, Osho Rajneesh’s accent. I believe the guy in this video said that he was Mexican or somebody else he was Mexican. The town USA where I live is 1/3 Mexican, so I am also very used to Mexican accents in English. I have no problem understanding this guy in the video at all. I went to two colleges and did not graduate from either. NYU in 1980 gave me a Swedish physics professor Who really could not speak English at all But the university liked the attention they were getting because the professor was publishing good papers. Nice that the professor could write well in English but why was he speaking to us an English in the lecture when he couldn’t speak English? NYU was an expensive school with smart students, but they were giving their Freshman Professors that could not speak English and Grad student teaching assistants that could speak English just fine but these grad students had not yet developed any teaching skills. UMass Boston had good professors but bad students. The bad students limited the pace, at which the professors could teach.

[@tekhelettassels462]

Repent..Yeshua is coming back and kundalini wont save you

[@psyneedpeace]

What an ignorance

[@timfox4578]

In Christian terminology, kundalini is called the Holy Spirit

[@benjaminyahweh]

😂😂😂Here goes another dumb christian!!

[@TheMuppyOtter]

When there is a reckoning, the people who have explored the depths of their soul will be better prepared than the rest of the population. You’re preaching to the choir and don’t realize it. Find some sinners to preach to. Regardless, if people do not want to be saved, you will not save them.

[@TheMuppyOtter]

Existing in fear of unforeseen consequences will hold back your potential. If you are grounded in being a good person you should not have to fear anyone.