Why Bandcamp Is Better Than Streaming

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

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[@Korudo]

Thanks for this. I’d rather support the artist than the music companies.

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Thank you 😊

[@urasenseii]

you can support the artist by listening wherever they post their music at.

[@oommdtube]

Sooooo grateful!! Without personal experience and $ breakdown these videos are useless to me, top vid ive watched today

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Thank you very much for your comment. It makes me super happy when people find my videos helpful. 🙂

[@JonathanJustin_Live]

Great video 🙇‍♂️, extremely helpful! Can’t wait to listen to your tunes!

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Thank you. I appreciate it. 😊

[@waxtapecdeater]

Downloads will always be superior and selling physical format. Hands down

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Yes, it's not likely to change in the near future. There have been some attempts to challenge the streaming platforms to start paying artists more fairly but so far they haven't achieved much.

[@WholeLottaBulldog]

Wow, it's quite shocking how little the artist actually sees from streams of their music.

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Yes, it's absolutely crazy.

[@Riktenstein]

@@bartekpiwonskiofficial I took my music off spotify as it was totally pointless.

[@pseudosun]

15 percent sounds like a good deal. They have to get paid to offer all of this. No money up front. 👍 I'm getting started with it.

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Great! Good luck with your music releases! :)

[@FrederikCorneliustravel]

A very good and informative video!

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Thank you 😊

[@Denver_Risley]

I've sold dozens of records and made close to $200 US. How many tens of thousands of hits would it take on Spotify to make that much money? Maybe hundreds of thousands? No way. I'll stick with Bandcamp.

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Thank you for your comment and for sharing your experience. :)

[@frankh9600]

Did you mention that streaming works perfectly as well on Bandcamp? And the artist decides is streaming is free for the album or tracks, or only possible after a purchase of digital dl, CD, Vinyl etc.

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

@frankh9600 Thank you for your comment. It's been a while since I posted the video so I can't remember but you are absolutely right. You can allow people to stream your music either for free or you can set a limit on it.

[@TyeeHox]

Are these number$ for original music self published?

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

@@TyeeHox Yes, that's right.

[@CirTap]

very insightful. These numbers in that table on headphonesty are ridiculous: most pay less than a cent per stream 🤯 I'll rub it into people's faces when they tell my one more time artists make money from Spotify or Amazon Music. And who's using Qobuz?? I believe there's not one musician I listen to who has 100k streams a month to earn 1000 bucks to support themself.

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Yes, it's quite ridiculous the way in which the streaming industry has been designed unfortunately...

[@chumza7498]

To be honest streaming was never a good idea imagine those streams where vinyl or cd sales most artist are in spotify just for the hype

[@LyricsVideo4U]

Cool!

[@fahrurrozy3080]

does it have content ID for youtube ?

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Hi. I'm not quite sure if I've understood your question. Please could you expand on it?

[@thegroupmusic147]

the problem is people listen to music through streaming services. They don't download music anymore

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

@@thegroupmusic147 Yes, that's true. The trick is being able to convince your core fanbase to support you as an artist in a way that makes it valuable to you as well as them.

[@clayirwinmusic1962]

GREAT NEW ROCK ON BANDCAMP FROM CLAY IRWIN] GREAT SONGS

[@ctm130]

does bandcamp charge royalties

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

No, they don't. They take a percentage of each sale you make but that's different from claiming a part of your royalties. In fact, you don't really get any royalties per se on Bandcamp. You sell a product, either digital or physical and you get a profit from that. They do Bandcamp Fridays which is when all your profits go to you. So if you are smart about it, you can ask your fans to buy your music only on those dates.

[@pulsarstar]

Snoop Dog earns 4500USD for mllion streams from Spotify. The story ends here.

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Well said

[@HooliTV]

To get paid for streaming on bandcamp do you need the irsc code?

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

No, you don't need an ISRC code to upload your songs to Bandcamp. On Bandcamp you don't get paid for streaming though. You get paid for downloads and purchases of physical releases and merch. You can set it up so it allows people to listen to your tracks before they download.

[@NonsensicalReality]

Can't you also just upload your music straight to spotify for free with an artist account rather than getting it out on all the other alternatives? I've been thinking about doing that to start off alongside a bandcamp account and then maybe later I'll try the bigger distribution to see if I can get more exposure that way.

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

You cannot upload directly to Spotify as a person. You have to go through a music distributor, this is the business model they have in place. Spotify for Artists account allows you to do certain things such as applying to be featured on a Spotify editorial playlist or to update your Spotify page but it doesn't allow you to upload your music. I'm not sure if the big record companies can upload directly. Perhaps they can but I don't think this is the case for small, independent labels.

[@NonsensicalReality]

@@bartekpiwonskiofficialI see. Makes more sense to just start off with bandcamp then for me and promote with youtube and other social media channels.

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

@@NonsensicalReality Yes, it sounds like a reasonable approach. You could also look at Soundcloud, where you can also upload directly.

[@NonsensicalReality]

@@bartekpiwonskiofficial Yeah, I have a soundcloud already so could add a few tracks on there too

[@NonsensicalReality]

@@bartekpiwonskiofficial I have some demos of old bands I was in on there and other jamming tracks with riffs I came up with etc.

[@DanielKolbin]

hi

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Hello

[@nonusbusinissus5632]

Now do a video on why having your songs deleted by bandcamp for political reasons, even if they are leading the charts, is better than not having them deleted

[@ibrajimenez2098]

😂 maybe they were cring

[@fieryeagle9748]

Streaming platforms are not to be used to make money, only to spread your musical footprint and make connections.

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

That's a fair point even though some artists do make money from streaming. Of course you need to be at quite a high level.

[@fieryeagle9748]

@@bartekpiwonskiofficial Exactly, only top artists. If you're not a top artist these platforms don't even know you're there, you are invisible to them, they don't promote you even if you're a subscriber to their premium service, you have to do all the marketing yourself. Top artists don't even need the money they get from these streaming platforms, for them it's just a welcoming bonus and not a life-saving income because they get a lot more from other sources, live shows, collaborating with other big artists and big companies, they have their own labels selling their stuff, disputing and making sure all their royalties are correct (even though they only get about 15% royalty payments from streaming platforms). Anyone else who is not a top artist and independent gains next to nothing and can't even control if what they are being paid is correctly calculated (you have no idea if the streaming platform is bullshitting your play count) all the while you're actually helping these platforms get more rich by agreeing to spread all advertisement on your tracks.

[@urasenseii]

@@bartekpiwonskiofficial not even at a high level, all they do is cheat and loop their tracks.

[@ronswallow]

Not trying to be a dick but that sounds like some shit a promoter out to screw you out of money would say. If those streaming companies are making money, and they are, they should be paying the people who make them that money and that is the artists.

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

@ronswallow Yes, I totally agree and it's as you said - the streaming companies are making money but the proportion of that money that they share with the artists is tiny.

[@boss-fd4pt]

Is Bandcamp giving payout? Why i am not getting my payout?

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

You've got to connect your Bandcamp account to a payment method, for example to your PayPal account. That way you can withdraw money from your sales.

[@boss-fd4pt]

@@bartekpiwonskiofficial my payout was in 28 December, but i didn't got it yet It is increasing day by day

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

@@boss-fd4pt Hi, that was yesterday. I'm not sure why that might be but I would recommend contacting Bandcamp customer support if you don't receive your money soon.

[@boss-fd4pt]

@@bartekpiwonskiofficial do you got your payout recently??

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

@@boss-fd4pt No, not very recently but I've never had any problems to withdraw my money from Bandcamp.

[@MaN-pw1bn]

Bandcamp has been indiscriminately dropping favorite artists without notification & deflection to the artists who were not notified. Don't use them.

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Thanks for your comment. Please could you expand on that and give some examples?

[@MaN-pw1bn]

Tim Poole and Five Times August were both dropped without notification - their content is no longer available and they are pretty upset. They have YT videos out explaining it.

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

@@MaN-pw1bn Thank you. I will watch the videos.

[@natlandry6481]

@@bartekpiwonskiofficial Tim Poole is a jerk that’s why.

[@quas3728]

that tim poole thing looks sussy. there are a lot of other indy artists but they don't talk about it. If bandcamp delete music for political reason. why didn't they remove JPEGMAFIA & Danny Brown's album for having Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un for album cover art?

[@shine_uno]

8:10

[@STEVEN.FRANCIS.]

ITS THE BIGGEST RIP OP MATE .I ONLY DO BANDCAMP NEVER STREAM..

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Good thinking. I'm only still doing streaming as you can be sometimes discovered if you get on playlists.

[@crash936]

decentralize everything

[@crash936]

You could work for half a day and do better than a year of ur music carreer :)

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

@crash936 Yes, that is very true indeed. Which is why I work aside from making music.

[@massapower]

Well if people put up some creative, innovative content, maybe you will profit on Streaming platforms . It's a Business regardless on how you look at it 😎✌

[@pulsarstar]

Snoop Dog earns 4500 usd per month for millions of streams. What business are you talking about ?

[@clayirwinmusic1962]

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[@guilleibarra9664]

Bandcamp is great but Paypal is crap.

[@bartekpiwonskiofficial]

Would you like to elaborate?