Why Bellybands ARE DANGEROUS for Concealed Carry

[@desertsoldier41]

I have found that every method of of concealed carry is dangerous according to KZbin.

[@smolsnek3835]

use and recognize logic vs pure opinion.

[@silverdropstang]

Been using a Galco under wraps belly band for 15 years. Went from college, through police training, carrying off duty while jogging, etc. Never had an issue. Hands down best belly band you can buy.

[@23Kingsolomon]

Thanks man. Good to know. Glaco underwraps

[@ronwigginton3880]

Boom!!! Shagalaga!!!!

[@Shorty_Lickens]

I notice you write in generalities and not specifically the issues she brought up.

[@UncleMilty]

The other side of the story. I have an Undertech BB with retention strap. I literally cannot pull the trigger of my G19 with it in the pouch, even trying with both hands. It cannot slip down as shown. It is ultra comfortable. Also works great with my 2" snub-nosed 38 and a full sized 1911.

[@MrDavidlfields]

Great points. I appreciate you using the term “negligent” discharge. Too often we hear “accidental”.. they are almost always negligent.

[@JTheraos]

While they are almost always negligent, they are also always accidental. They are virtually always interchangeable. Gun people just tend to have no idea what the two words mean, unfortunately.

[@r90fan1]

They are different. Accident is something unforseen. Negligence is acting in a way that is beyond what a rational person would behave.​@@JTheraos

[@EternallyThankful-os6pz]

Never thought of these issues with a bellyband - really good thoughts on your part - thanks very kindly for posting this !!

[@P.HATHCOX]

The issues you brought up about re holstering and about the firearm creeping down in a belly band are valid concerns and good to know. I wasn't aware of that. I was looking into the belly band but now I'll look at other options.

[@paulsciria8921]

Look at the phlster enigma or you can us a belly band and attach a kydex holster.

[@Em22-wtf]

I use the Crossbreed belly band system that has a hard kydex holster that velcro on with super duper hard to move velcro. It doesn't slide at all, but I ALWAYS wear a tank top under it, just for comfort more than anything... I've worn it to work, 9hrs, walking around for 8 straight hours, but also bending, reaching, carrying heavy boxes, and even sitting on my breaks. I've never had any issues mentioned here. I also have never had anyone see it. I position it under my chest area, but I still can grab it & just practice. I did have a soft shell one with just the elastic with no strap... And Yax my gun literally fell out in the middle of a department store, hit my boot and skidded across the floor. I was so surprised, but luckily I grabbed it and stuck it in my pocket before anyone noticed. I never used it again. I also have an in waste band holster from Crossbreed that works great with the newer high waist jeans now, rather than the low waist I was wearing a couple yrs ago.... and still do, but I can't wear a holster on my belt because there just isn't enough room so that's when I change to belly band.... But I literally wore the belly band almost every day for the first year I had my LTC. I would try it if you're still having trouble with everything else. Crossbreed also gives you a 2 week try out period and if you don't like it, you can return it. 😁

[@Gypsyman40]

Been carrying using a belly band over 20 years. None of the scenerios mentioned have ever happen. Respectfully...

[@REDonFIRE]

What kind??

[@Gypsyman40]

@@REDonFIRE DeSantis belly band. I appendix carry though

[@REDonFIRE]

@@Gypsyman40 I haven’t heard of that one and I’ve been researching a lot. I will check it out.

[@b_t_b_h_]

Wow!!!!! That retention strap placement is such good information!!!! Thank you!

[@dorzak975]

Crossbreed Bellyband is sold with a firearm specific Kydex holster.

[@jonsays3762]

Thanks. I was looking for something appropriate for a li'l-bitty Glock 42 so that I can wear "normal" light PT shorts that don't have belt loops. I was a little on fence for an elastic holster section so that I could carry a couple of other 9's, but I think I'll stick with 'specific purpose, specific pew-pew, specific holster'. Cheers. CB just got me for another $80, lol.

[@iSlyOne]

i use the crossbreed with my 43x while running or just casually wearing gym short other “no belt” pants

[@TridentCapital]

The Brave Response band style holster minimizes a lot of these issues. It doesn't allow the gun to be pushed down too far into holster. It is collapsible, but not entirely, so reholstering is easy. It has a unique strap that pulls the grip of the gun inwards. It really is a fantastic design for those who need to carry independent of a belt or waistband.

[@bfg1836]

I sometimes carry a revolver in a belly band holster fitted to it. It can’t go any deeper, has adequate trigger protection for a double action revolver, has a thumb break retention, and is completely hidden in a baggy t-shirt.

[@ronaldscruggs2699]

The trigger issue is why I have always liked pistols with a manual safety. I hate when people say " your trigger finger is the safety". Other things can pull the trigger besides a finger.

[@tessahbooth]

Totally agree, however, a manual safety definitely isn't an alternative in the place of proper trigger protection.

[@boricuany79]

Hit the nail right on the head. I never buy guns without a thumb safety.

[@zekiah2]

I’ve had a MIC trigger holster on my Glock for about three years now and it only ever comes off when I’m shooting it To be perfectly honest I treat that as my holster whatever method that I’m carrying it doesn’t really matter because I’ve got it holstered with that MIC holster

[@RedGoat2035]

Get a fucking Kydex holster and your finger is the literal safety the gun will not go bang without it being pulled and you always look at your holster when reholstering slowly

[@SuLu_XD]

​@@RedGoat2035crazy how upset you are about someone wanting a manual safety 😂

[@mikharty]

I love my belly band. I pulled the stitching out from the gun pocket, put velcro inside , and on a kydex holster because I did not like the retention, or the sang of the front site. Works great. Very comfortable, and I just put velcro on other holsters for the guns I wish to carry.

[@Dr.VonBraun]

I have been in the market for a belly band holster, and after watching your video, I am really having to do some research into what kind of belly band holster I want to get that offers all of the protections that I need. Thanks for making the video, it is super informative.

[@fpftraining]

Typically excellent work. Unmodified belly bands (without a kydex insert) fails at least two of the criteria for a safe holster.

[@jacobgill4808]

Absolutely

[@evogsr4807]

The crossbreed 2.0 has gun specific kydex holster and the ability to angle the holster on the band to your liking via velcro

[@michaelbaker6585]

I've been specifically looking for a belly band because many IWB holsters need a belt. I wear a lot of 'athleisure' clothing. I'm leaning toward the VNSH holster. I think it's a great option.

[@LordHollow]

Trigger protection is a must. It's non negotiable with me. Great video.

[@PrimeSavitar]

You talk about having to use your "support" hand to open the holster but if you think about it, if your ever in a self defense situation and you use your weapon chances are the person you shot is on the ground so you can take all the time you need re-holstering.

[@tessahbooth]

Yes, I completely agree. In most real life scenarios speed reholstering isn't necessary. The concern with using the support hand to open the holster is the likelihood of flagging the support hand on the way into the holster.

[@jasonsmith2490]

Look into the Strapt-Tac belly band, it allows you to use your own holster I think it’s an amazing design

[@billywest7065]

Kudos for pointing out the retention strap gaff on every BB I've seen. Especially if you carry a Springfield that has a safety in the back of the grip. The retention strap nullifies the safety

[@BirdDogey1]

As a general rule, I prefer DA/SA or DAO on deeper concealment firearms. Run of the mill striker fired handguns are kept OWB.

[@dereksuddreth8672]

My Taurus G3C has a safety, which I train with and normally leave 'on'. Also, I never rack a round until I'm ready to fire, although I do carry with a clip inserted.

[@SAR0311]

Hair clip or paper clip? You don't sound very competent to be carrying, especially since you seem to believe you are going to get a 2-minute warning that You need to rack a round into the chamber with your shaky fumbling sweaty fingers

[@dereksuddreth8672]

@@SAR0311 I was a member of my Ship's Security Team from 1977-81. Qualified with the standard pistol of the day, the .45 ACP. On watch we were given two mags with three rounds in each. The Gunners Mate said it was to protect the magazine spring. What about protecting our shipmates and the weapons of mass destruction we carried? We were expected to stop a boarder with six total rounds. We carried our pistols un-racked. But my weapon of choice aboard ship was the 12 gauge pump shotgun. Great for clearing passageways in the confines of a naval vessel. This is also my weapon for home defense. No lights or lasers. Darkness is my friend... I would carry one in my vehicle if it was legal to do so loaded and unconcealed.

[@johnschiffermuller4930]

You are right. For some guns, my J-frame Smiths, my CZ75c, I would not be terribly worried about it due to the long, relatively heavy DA pull. But I do carry Glocks from time to time, and this is definitely a legitimate beef. Promptly ordered a trigger cover for $11 off Ebay. I rarely use a BB holster, I don't find them comfortable as I am edging up toward "chubby" in my old age and I'm limited in holster position due to a badly damaged shoulder. I can't reach behind my hip and pull a pistol up out of a holster. I have yet to find one of these belly bands that has any kind of sweat guard to keep the rear of the slide, hammer, rear sight from gouging the heck out of me unless I wear and undershirt and put the holster over it. Not comfy in Florida's heat. But I do occasionally wear the shoulder holster style with a western-style snap front shirt when I can't get away with anything else.

[@danofiremano]

I bought a belly band from Amaxon & it lasted less than a week before it warp-stretched into a state of uselessness & I wasn't really keen on the trigger being accessible thru the pouch.

[@mattrichardson617]

I rarely comment on video content, although I watch dozens of videos per week, even per day off KZbin. You make some valid points in this video - arguments that people wouldn't easily realize, most notiably about the inadvertent trigger pull while in the belt. That is a very serious design flaw. If you are carrying a gun in a belly belt all day, you would probably tend to forgot you have it on at times, which could lead to big problems if one of the risks you mentioned actually happened. Thank you for your content!

[@kibukun]

I think it's an interesting point to bring up, I understand your concern. I think it might be better to recommend a "yse with caution" than a "these are incredibly dangerous" because you really come across here as more of a karen than anything else.

[@tessahbooth]

I don’t mind coming across that way. Carrying a gun can be incredibly dangerous if we aren’t smart about our choices. I wouldn’t recommend anyone use a holster that doesn’t adequately protect the trigger. It’s simply not worth the risk.

[@RonaldWeber-eb3ki]

I couldn’t agree more, I bought one last week and after 10 minutes of monkeying with it deemed it dangerous and immediately called the company for a refund for all the reasons you explained here. Thank you for getting this out to the general public

[@ArmchairRamb0]

Excellent observation. All my holsters have the trigger protected and then some. Easily remedied, but you have to acknowledge the issue first. Even a 3x5 card next to the trigger would be better than nothing. Very useful. My Glock 36 has a little piece that blocks the trigger, but not much of that for other makers.

[@stephenoistad6702]

Thank you for the Excellent explanations of possible problems with belly band usage.

[@REDonFIRE]

This wouldn’t be so unsafe if people kept on their safety’s though, right?

[@artemis5622]

Wearing a ComfortTac Bellyband holster: I have essentially zero issues with pulling the trigger while it's worn, It has a leather trigger guard seated where most handguns sit in the band, And as I wear mine fairly tight, 've never had it slip or fall.

[@ChetGeorge]

Outstanding treatment of the topic. Great job. Thanks.

[@dalesingle5534]

The VNSH has an adjustable front retention strap that can cover the trigger guard to solv that problem.

[@bfg1836]

I’ve been using a Stinger belly band holster for years with a Taurus G2C. Ultimate comfort, doesn’t print, and as hard as I try I can’t pull the trigger through the fabric. If I were worried about it I’d simply glue some hard material on the outside over the trigger guard. It I s sewn in such a way that it is impossible for the gun to fall too deep. The only change I would make is to put a thumb break on it, instead of the retention that uses the index finger. I can holster it easily without flagging my free hand. Every single argument you made doesn’t apply to this holster. This video just seems to be an advertisement for the holster you pitched at the end.

[@ee222]

great video. i realize that you prefaced this video as a talk on "unmodified"/soft belly bands, so my question is a little off topic, but what is your opinion on crossbreed's modular belly band? it would appear that their belly band at least addresses the safety issues you raise and might even address the other issues of concealment. i'm asking this question 'cause i did a search of your channel and did not see this belly band mentioned and was wanting your opinion of it in light of your arguments from this video.

[@keithcharles2113]

Thanks for the tips. My custom holster was molded to fit my HK and the internal belt system is great. My wardrobe doesn't support my gun, instead the holsters belt supports my wardrobe. It's attached firmly to my hips. I love a belt less wardrobe. So freeing all year round. Plus I can jog in this thing. I'm not battling a holster all daylong. Now it's wearing out and he went out of business. PHLster looks like a terrific option. I threw away the bellyband the first week (gun slipped out twice). Unreliable retention, trigger issues, reholster issues and just plain deadly with a striker fired weapon. I'll never go back to a wardrobe supported holster. They are annoying to no end. Constantly sagging and dragging your pants down.

[@jsigmon57]

I've discovered that using a Kydex IWB In the bellyband's holster compartment works very well.

[@tessahbooth]

Glad you found something that is working for you.

[@ragtop91]

Good video. Definitely points that should be considered.

[@tomjones2348]

Well done! Good video editing.

[@gamergeek8933]

I have been looking at Cross Breed holsters belly bad. Theirs is a band and a kydex holster in one. I think the holster uses velcro or something to stay in the band. This seems like it would resolve all your issues. Maybe you could give that a try?

[@mrazcr000]

She’s one of the investors on a rival holster idea. The one with the leg lasso piece.

[@tessahbooth]

Investors?🤦🏼‍♀️

[@bobd9775]

I use a long Comfort Tac belly band that I wrap the tail of over a Cross Breed velcro backed modular holster. works well for me and is clockable

[@OutdoorOptimist]

I got a belly band but then affixed a Blackhawk ARC polymer holster inside the band's pocket with a Chicago screw out the front and one out the back. I also put a little glue on the outside of the polymer and glued it inside the belly band pocket. The ARC holster is in there good and provides retention without a strap and trigger protection. This is how I carry a Shield 9mm when wearing track pants or athletic shorts that just have elastic waist band and draw string that have no support for a holstered firearm.

[@manofthetombs]

Very interesting info, especially since I have been leaning towards a BB holster laty. Thank you!

[@ericcranston8158]

John Wayne never wore a bellyband....

[@silverarm6130]

Comfort Tac bellybands. Working great here.

[@tessahbooth]

The comfortac, like the bands shown in this video, doesn’t provide adequate trigger protection.

[@strwman5]

Helpful video! Thanks!

[@meritholdingllc123]

I just got my VNSH holster today. With both a Glock 19 and a Glock 26, both got hung up on the holster. I didn't have any trouble reholstering, not being able to draw with one hand is unacceptable.

[@graywind4326]

Agreed. In general I rarely use a belly band. But when I do its with a light weight.38/357 revolver. I am tempted by the crossbreed setup but for the few times I am not carrying IWB with a belt I just stick to the galco. It even works with my DA/SA Sig 229 and 227 carry.

[@bbgun59]

I do believe there is something called a safety on most weapons and if you carry any cylinder weapons and have that under a 3lb pull then this should not be a problem.

[@rayraman3243]

Valuable insights. Thank you and I am glad you made it and I got to watch it :-)

[@Prairie7777]

This is very informative. Thank you for posting this!

[@timhertz1089]

Why would your finger be near the trigger until the gun is drawn?

[@tessahbooth]

It’s not about fingers pulling triggers, it’s about the fact that something could access the trigger while the gun is fully seated in the bellyband.

[@timhertz1089]

Like what??? @@tessahbooth

[@DMosleyCFS]

Excellent points; I appreciate your feedback; I'm a new subscriber.

[@alleyratAnderson]

The Smart Carry holster which I have used for over 10 years does protect the trigger.

[@Lordnat1]

Excellent video, tips, safety and suggestions. I appreciate you.

[@MaximGhost]

I use bellybands because it lets me ride my Sig P365 and mags higher up comfortably when driving and because they are inexpensive. To mitigate all the safety issues brought up in this video, I simply purchased a P365 with the optional thumb safety. I know all Glock fanboys think thumb safeties are lame and argue that they make quickly drawing under pressure unsafe since that's a separate step to remember. But, I fail to see their point since I've learned from the start of my 1911 days about placing my thumb on the safety, pressing down, and riding it on the safety the entire time I have my right-handed grip on handgun. I just need to remember putting it back on safe before re-holstering. As for re-holstering, yes ... that's not going to be fast with a bellyband but it's the draw that I place more weight on when it comes to speed. As for more printing, I'm not concerned about that too much. Honestly, I don't care if others think I have a handgun as long as I have my CCW card on me as well. Some printing is at least less concerning to others than open-carry, which is also legal in my state as well but no CCW is required for that. I might look into the PHLster but I'm very adverse to to buying anymore Kydex holsters (plenty already in my drawer of never-to-be-used knickknacks) since I like to have an integrated light & laser on my handgun along with a red (or green) dot optic. I tend to swap out those accoutrements out when something better, faster, brighter, comes out. So, Kydex holders only paints me into a corner.

[@frankiesfastcooking6027]

Thank you for this video. I have been writing two companies to find out what is protecting the trigger group and they didn’t respond back.

[@yaldaboth1889]

Great video. Very informative.

[@herberar]

Excellent video, right to the point. Thanks a lot!!!

[@tristanjones7427]

How do you feel about the crossbreed belly band that includes a kydex holster?

[@stevesklar8334]

One reason I use handguns with manual safeties - for holstering and unholstering. With proper training you learn to turn off the safety upon unholstering (not at time of full presentation) so you can shoot from the hip if needed. But then I was carrying a 1911 back in '87 which had a manual safety so I'm used to it. FYI, I do have a Glock 19 but don't conceal carry it due to my own safety concerns for EDC.

[@MaximGhost]

Exactly! Glock fanbois LOVE to say thumb safeties are lame but yet the U.S. military has had them on all their standard-issue sidearms for 110 years already starting with the 1911. "Proper training" with a thumb safety is nothing more than doing a high sweep down with the thumb as part of the strong-hand grip and riding it on the thumb safety for at least the first shot. (Not on the Beretta M9 though. Fortunately they fixed that with the new Sig M17/M18.) It's amazing that the Austrian military didn't require thumb safeties when Gaston Glock developed and submitted his Glock 17 for the Austrian trials in the early 80s. And now the lack of thumb safeties limits one's choice in SAFE holster options? Crazy. The Sig P365 I have for CCW in my $15 belly band has the thumb safety option. If the Glock 43 was ever offered with a thumb safety, then I would consider working that into my CCW rotation as well. For the time being, the Glocks I do have are either nightstand guns or desk guns.

[@chrisbrown9280]

Unholstering? Do you mean drawing? Adding a manual safety should not take the place of holstering and drawing safely. Just don't put your bugger hook on the bang switch, look your firearm into the holster, don't flag yourself or anyone else, etc...

[@yongyea4147]

None of my carry guns have a safety.

[@catwhispurrer137]

I considered belly bands for potential CCW, but they're not practical when you need to keep your shirt (which is part of concealment for belly bands) tucked in all the time. I've since then discovered pocket pistols and shoulder holsters. Pocket, great for summer; Shoulder, great for winter. Vertical shoulder holsters conceal even better than the typical Horizontal ones do.

[@gamergeek8933]

So this is funny this popped up. I just bought a belly bad… a super cheap one just to see if I liked the way they carry. The trigger thing was totally an issue and I saw that right away. Mine does not allow for the gun to slide through because the whole on the bottom is so tight you would be lucky to get a revolver barrel through it. My gun didn’t even fit in the holster, I shoved my wife’s 38 in just to see what a belly band feels like. I was walking around the house with it and the gun literally fell out. Then I took a leather holster and tucked it behind the belly bad. That felt ok but not secure still.

[@laurenashley2807]

Ooooh girl I was waiting for this one! 🔥

[@allens4974]

So far I am not a fan of any belly band holster. My latest one is the Crossbreed 2.0 and it is not worth having. Only good point is it has formed kydex for the actual holster part, but just barely. No retention mechanism in the kydex and no retention straps. The kydex is not mechanically secured to the belly band, just held in place by velcro. I bought the holster to wear when wearing sweet pants of shorts or just working out. Lack of any retention does not instill confidence that the gun will stay in place while running and unfortunately the smooth nature of the neoprene band itself guarantees that neither my pants nor shorts will stay in place when walking, let alone running.

[@gentrydebbie1040]

I carry a Double action with a hammetDrop safety you have to pull my trigger to make it Fire ?I like outside safties also ?

[@pennyrobinson4266]

Each trigger pull made my stomach drop. Good points!

[@kelseachristinecrosby335]

Thank you for the excellent upload, very helpful and important topics discussed. I would love to purchase an Enigma, but every time I go to their website it's sold out. I'm on their waitlist and received an email notification when they restocked, but the Enigma was already unavailable by the time I visited the website (which was 1-hour after receiving the email). Can't wait to eventually get my hands on an Enigma one day! Great vid

[@dyerwulf5459]

Same boat

[@ad1683]

@@dyerwulf5459 Light bearing Enigma just came in stock last night! I ordered it asap!

[@jenniferhart8028]

Its 8:46pm EST they are in stock right now.

[@dyerwulf5459]

They are in stock as of 1 hour ago

[@v710k]

@@ad1683 that's a bummer! I'm on the waitlist for both models and never received an email!

[@darenc4459]

What do your recommend in replace of a Belly Band as my wife is a new carrier and is always wearing yoga pants or similar types of pants. I had sent her for professional private training, and her instructor actually recommended a Belly Band. She carries a S&W M&P Shield 9mm EZ which due to the safety being part of the handle or on the grip of the gun, I don't see the accidental misfiring being an issue. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you !!!!

[@darenc4459]

Oh BTW it does have a retention strap. I'd also like to know which holster you recommend for when she is wearing jeans. Thanks again !!!

[@tessahbooth]

Unless the instructor was recommending your wife use a kydex trigger guard or holster insert with the bellyband I wouldn't consider that advice "good advice". As detailed in this video, bellybands are not safe to use for concealed carry without a holster or hard trigger guard insert. Not only are they unsafe, but they lead to really disappointing concealment. I'd encourage her to look into the enigma (mentioned at the end of this video), but also know that the set up and customization process for the enigma can be a steep learning curve, especially for a new concealed carrier.

[@darenc4459]

@@tessahbooth Thank you so much !! Have a great weekend. Really enjoy your podcast !!!

[@golffoxtrotyankeehooligan222]

I personally like to sow in a leather cover over the actual fabric. I think it a band best for a sidearm with a hard safety

[@HalfCrazy520]

If I may... there might be some angles you haven't look at this from... stick with me for a second: If your pistol has a GRIP SAFETY (I know, everyone hates them) like the S&W Shield 9 EZ or the Equalizer and the Springfield Armory XD series, it solves some belly-band safety issues. When holstering, put your thumb on the back of the slide and the grip safety is not defeated... safely holster it, it can't go off. When the pistol is being carried in the belly-band, if something did foul the trigger, the grip safety is not defeated... it can't go off. There are always options for a manual thumb safety on many pistols (I wouldn't recommend that, but it's an option). There are also DA/SA pistols that are safer to use with that thumb-on-hammer trick and having that long double action 1st trigger pull. This one I hate to suggest, and I wouldn't do it, but you could always carry with an empty chamber. My wife carries her EZ in a couple of different belly-bands and I have no issue with that. I will carry my CZ P-01 in a belly band occasionally without concern. I would not, however, use a belly band for the average striker-fired pistol for the reasons you state... and for the same reasons you don't just stick a Glock in your waistband to take out the trash.

[@Guide504]

First point is the only point needed to make... Well done!

[@jacobgill4808]

I can't imagine carrying a glock in anything but a high quality kydex locking holster...I have to know there is no way anything will touch that trigger...especially one that's lightend and polished...I don't holster a loaded pistol....I can practice drawing with an unloaded pistol.....I put on and remove the pistol holstered...I saw one belly band holster that has a velcro retention strap inside the pistol pocket...so there is literally something that can come loose and press into the trigger

[@lgwappo]

I've carried DA/SA & DAO guns in belly bands but I'll never carry my SA pistol in it. There's no safety on it. But the belly band allows me to conceal a larger gun with less printing & no discomfort. Not possible with my large pile of kydex holsters.

[@Sanwizard1]

With any waist holster, even kydex IWB, the muzzle points at you every time you sit down. That is one reason I like pocket carry or chest rig / shoulder holster more. It may just be me, but I get the hebee jeebees when a gun is pointing at my crotch.

[@tessahbooth]

I wouldn’t consider a gun that is seated in a proper holster as a “pointed” gun. If the holster can’t be trusted to keep the gun in the holster, or prevent the trigger from being accessed while the gun is seated in the holster then it is not safe for use, which is the point I’m making in this video.

[@Sam-km9nm]

Alien gear and black hawk seem to be good options due to them requiring you to use your current Kydex holder

[@lepezz]

Useful video, thanks for that…well done, am gonna stick with IWB Kydex

[@TacoTeaser]

Very helpful. Thank you

[@carlrice3637]

I've been using a Sticky Holster BB and do not find the issues you detail. Appendix carry would definitely be off your list based on your concerns.

[@tessahbooth]

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[@BladeBoySFV]

What are your thoughts on something like the Clip & Carry Strap Tac, which is more of a belly band holster reciever than a Belly Band Holster itself? It's pretty much a PHLSter Enigma as a Belly Band....

[@davesbrewing]

Thank you for this video and happy independence day .

[@jimtewa8096]

You have valid points, that being said the Glock should be removed from the equation since it has the highest amount of accidental discharges predominantly while in police use, it really doesn't matter belly band or not, the best way is DA/SA that will eliminate that type of discharge, or carry a 1911 cocked & locked which is still much safer than a Glock.

[@ahmeda.3198]

Strange, never heard this about glocks. It seems you have to be very deliberate in squeezing the trigger.

[@kurohyou69]

What might your opinion be on the Alien Gear Low-Pro Belly Band?

[@tessahbooth]

It's technically a safer option, but introduces an unnatural draw due to it's cant, and doesn't have any concealment features. That being said, I ordered one last month, and plan to make a video review when it comes in :)

[@kurohyou69]

@@tessahbooth I agree with your points above. But, oddly, I found it to be more concealable and comfortable than anything else I own. For me, it has become my go-to! I am looking forward to your review and take on it!

[@ttommyunger]

When I use one of my belly bands (I've collected three over the years) I only use it as a belt. I either slide a IWB or paddle holster under the belly band (I prefer Kydex) and go about my day in shorts and tee shirt. Problems solved!

[@RocksNRuts4]

100% right bout no trigger guard, its n ez fix the VNSH has yet to add after a yr of complaints....also these all catch the front sight slowing the draw.

[@Burlehmangus]

What about the tactica with the rigid holster? Seems like the best bet

[@tessahbooth]

I have a video for that one too! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pX_ZlK2vZpp0n5osi=vOGvk7XtSV7mJhEa

[@mdm_1776]

She's "not paid by PHLster", but when you go to their website she is in their "Enigma Express vs Standard Enigma - Which is Better?" video.

[@tessahbooth]

I wasn’t their employee when I made this video almost three years ago 👍

[@mdm_1776]

You should update with a disclaimer on that same section of video, in my opinion. I'm in the market for a way to carry while I cycle/workout. While doing some research I came across your video. You did open my eyes to an issues I hadn't thought of. I was considering one of the popular bellyband style holsters, but now I'm leaning toward the PHLster.@@tessahbooth

[@tessahbooth]

@@mdm_1776 An update may be in order! Although, I do disclaim my affiliation with PHLster in current uploads (like my most recent one). At the time of making this particular video I was just a PHLster customer, so the disclaimer that is relevant to this particular video remains true :) If you're considering the Enigma then I'd suggest watching this video that explain why you may NOT want to purchase one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppKof4aQnZd_mrcsi=46Tbegb4qZjqt1hr It's not clickbait, but rather gets into the specific reasons and use cases you may not want to use the Enigma for.

[@sarahsavage980]

What would you suggest to use when carrying during jogging or biking?

[@tessahbooth]

I use the enigma, and if you can use that then I would definitely consider it a great option. If the enigma isn't something you're interested in then you could purchase a kydex insert made to your specific firearm and secure it inside of the bellyband. I have a video coming out in a few weeks about my experience looking for, trying and selecting a holster for running. I tried a bellyband, and clipping a holster to my shorts and neither of those worked. Thus far the enigma has solved all of the previous issues I was having with the other two set ups.

[@sarahsavage980]

@@tessahbooth I've just discovered the enigma from one of your other videos, and it seems wonderful! I want to try it, but it's sold out on the website. :( I signed up for the waitlist. Is there anywhere else that sells it that you know of? Thank you.

[@tessahbooth]

@@sarahsavage980 PHLster are the only ones selling it currently :) It comes back in stock momentarily each day to service the waiting list, so just keep a close eye and be sure to check your spam folder. Keep in mind that the waitlist notifies people in batches based off of where they are in the waitlist cue, so it may take a while before you get a notification

[@angelacotan9520]

​ @Sarah Savage I was on the waitlist as well, but spotted that it was available by checking the website regularly and never actually received an email from them. Check their website regularly, and you will find it available at some point! Mine came in last week and I just set it up. I was able to conceal with biker shorts today!

[@ringoflynt]

I don’t keep one in the chamber so I’m good to go. Belly bands are the best and most comfortable, not sure what bands you’re using but I can’t get to the trigger with my Comfortac

[@davidaguirre7847]

You should carry with one in the round once ur comfortable

[@rustyzipper6304]

Buy a gun with a safety and you'll never have to worry about accidentally firing it when removing from the holster.

[@JohnDAgnese]

I get the problems w/ the belly band, but most of them can be overcome to an acceptable degree. I personally would rather use the Enigma system, but neither Phlster nor any other holster mfr offers a holster for either of my Sig P365 FCU pistol build outs. I have designed two pistols with lights/lasers, red dot optics, and threaded barrels. These systems are best suited to giving me the best custom defensive shooting platforms on the market for the money. However, because of the uniqueness of the setups, literally no one has appendix carry holsters that fit them which work with the Enigma system. In addition, no one is willing to make them to specs. Ergo, my only options are of the belly band type... Happy to hear of a solution that would let me use the Enigma system, but save that, I am stuck in belly band land...

[@Noneya-kv3jx]

My wife wants the Bravo belt , ever heard of it ?

[@tessahbooth]

Yep, the black band I used in this video is a version of the bravo belt.

[@anonymouslee2083]

True about most negligent discharges never making the news. Hell, the only one I've ever had, nobody knows about except me and my wife. Even people in other units didn't hear it. I got lucky and the round turned out to be a squib.

[@SkullKidForever]

carry a hi point c9, problem solved, 8pound trigger pull with a thumb safety.

[@tessahbooth]

Carrying a hi point is almost never a problem solved…

[@BigDaddySwingingMeat]

Hi Points are trash my guy.

[@mkshffr4936]

No you clearly need to buy a holster that costs as much as your gun... Except the plastic holsters have to be specially molded for each specific gun and yours isn't one of the popular guns at the moment. I guess you are just going to have to die. 🥴

[@Anubis-nx1gu]

Get a Crossbreed liberty! You can use your own holster. I stopped using those soft belly bands.

[@richhopkins2331]

I'm in love!

[@REDonFIRE]

Same issues with thigh holsters?

[@coreyshidler9024]

There is nothing wrong with belly band they are safe to use I have a bravo belt and have no issues

[@tessahbooth]

They’re unsafe for all of the reasons I clearly outlined in this video. Including the bravo belt.