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@muti338 Жыл бұрын
If you think more, Ben used Clockwork to reverse the effects of the chronosapien bomb which destroyed almost the entire Multiverse and he as a person tries not to use the Omnitrix at its full potential because the power can overwhelm him thats why the Omnitrix turns him back after a period of time
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
I cant talk much about this now... (working on a new video) but i have a theory on all of this
@ShadowDeathBlade93 Жыл бұрын
That was an alternate version Ben which was the No Watch Ben that borrowed Ben Prime's Omnitrix just a big heads up
@dellmaxson2184 Жыл бұрын
The omnitrix power doesn't overwhelm him but however everything else you said was true
@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 Жыл бұрын
the omnitrix does not overwhelm I don't know where the hell you got that from but everything else is true.
@saturn.r7 Жыл бұрын
No I’m pretty sure it times out bc the omnitrix would start fusing Ben’s DNA with his aliens after a certain period of time. Correct me if I’m wrong
@w3mp732 Жыл бұрын
The reason why ben doesn't take things serious is because the writter doesn't want him to. Alien force is the best prime example of his character development and if you put his character development in omniverse, he could straight up beat almost every of his villains
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
The perfect balance would actually be OV and Ben 10k. Both serious and fun at the same time. People believe you can have either one or the other but Ben 10k is actually a combo of both
@w3mp732 Жыл бұрын
I like the more of ultimate ben's personality in ultimate alien bescause like you said, they are both goofy at times but not to the point of being annoying
@starwolfwing7228 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t it also the reason because he is a kid, he thing being a hero is like in the tv shows he watches
@EmmetGillespie-b7r11 ай бұрын
It's cause despite the improved storytelling and tone alien force had over classic series ratings were still higher when it was 10 year old Ben in the spotlight. Cartoon Network believed that this was because Ben was more likeable when he was acting immature and egotistical.
@scottchaison100110 ай бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 Nah, Alien Force Ben is the best Ben.
@izaya8146 Жыл бұрын
"Alien X basically let everyone die just to make a replica of the universe as he remembered." Alien X didn't let them die, Ben just didn't know what was happening during the process. Not sure why you'd compare the Flash reversing Time to Alien X recreating a universe comparable. The Flash HAD to reverse time as he cannot surive destruction of the Universe, Alien X could and did before recreating it. If Ben knew about the destruction during the process, he could've reverse time.
@ghostwarrior-ni1xb11 ай бұрын
I don't think time reversal would stop an annialarg detonations since annialarg destroy time and space
@HingleBingle Жыл бұрын
If Ben kept his UA "I'm done with your shit, I'll kill you if you don't stop" personality, he would be on par in popularity with Eren Yeager
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
Right, like when he told the Forever King: "you'll free these aliens or I'll make you regret it for the rest of your short lives". That was insane🔥🔥
@lordextinction8322 Жыл бұрын
So he’ll eventually cause universal genocide
@kermitgotthesickkicks426510 ай бұрын
So ben would just cause mass genocide or maybe even universal genocide?
@hatimtabernoust55447 ай бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 why make Superman lift Alien X like he's stronger!!? IT'S SUPPOSE TO BE THE OPPOSITE
@RomanComicsOff2107 ай бұрын
@@hatimtabernoust5544 Superman has lifted infinity with 0 issue..... a universal being should be no problem
@silvertongue.242_99 Жыл бұрын
The alien x feat and why he needed to replicate the universe is because he didn't know what that did and only realize after the bomb went off. He could not reverse time because time doesn't exist so he had to recreate the universe. An incredible feat
@StanHanrahan Жыл бұрын
Great video! It would definitely be awesome seeing more of Ben at his full potential
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, I like what you and other Ben 10 content creators are making your own versions of seeing Ben at his best!
@silvertongue.242_99 Жыл бұрын
Why are we comparing Ben to these other heroes with years of feats and history. Comics is the way to go to explore Ben as a hero and potential as an adult. Also explore what the watch can do with no limits
@ValTheBee61604 Жыл бұрын
Not here to diss the video nor am I a "ben 10 supremacist" just a constructive response 1:24 -A future version of himself 1:56 -if you are referring to in OS when he gains master control yes he had it and then lost it when detatching it as a way to save his cousin in an ultimatum he did not suddenly just lose master control he gave up the omnitrix even if briefly to save gwen which he also takes it off in between OS and alien force again causing it to have to recalibrate in season one of AF 2:17 -there is no definitive "at his best" ben because like marvel and dc characters or most comic characters there are literally infiate versions/ variants differing in power some having more or vastly different moveset compared to ben prime 2:19 - those heroes you listed are not always at their "best" by default especially with superman because characters like that are powerful depending on the version or in most cases the continuity 3:09 - under the assumption you are talking about later season alien force ben and omniverse ben, OV ben is a poor example of ben due to people who write him early alien force ben was getting more of a grasp on the power of the omnitrix though he is still a kid and can have his ego filled even for brief times like in ultimate alien and even then he understood the scope of what that device on his wrist can do (we can even see at times the weight that he has to carry with this notion) and to be clear perfect example of ben not being "reckless" as you say is the episode in the OS where he unlocks master control, he really thinks about each alien he is swapping into throughout the majority of that episode and there are plenty of other examples in the other series.(and to my knowlage I have not seen anything that is considered a mood swing specifically because that means any hero that is given an ultimatum mid battle has them ) 4:03 -still the same points about power scaling someone with confirmed infinite versions of him plus omniverse ben is still a poor example of ben in general in the beginning . 4:11 -in literally most of the ben 10 series ben has shown to adapt with a different alien he can't just know at all times which alien is stronger than another because they all function differently in several cases plus he has been shown with omniverse ben's omnitrix(THE omnitrix quoted by asmuth) that he has most if not several hundred to thousand more aliens be it unlocked or not and can swap between them in quick succession when in a more serious fight 4:23 -What show, comic, or movie doesn't have inconsistencies ? literally all of comics are loaded with them and we all know dragon ball has plenty in there. Superman has been shown to lose fights other versions of him would do with ease 5:49 -i can name several times ben's rouges have been extremely dangerous to start(vilgax with the chronosapien time bomb that erases almost all of the omniverse except for one universe), or when the Incurseans (their leader) accidentally activates the Annihilarrgh erasing that ben's universe causing him to remake it as alien x it's like saying joker can't be that dangerous, it's how the villain is applied side notes 1: vilgax is not just "space bane" there are more layers and 2: maltruent is a bad chronosapien (no relation to ben's transformation who is of the same species) aggragor was almost a threat when he was about to absorb a baby celestialsapien 6:03 -personally i don't believe powerscaling works. yes heroes have feats but again like all my other points you can't hold them to that because of the fact that continuity can change or writers can make that a "variant of said prime hero" which not to seem biased or fall into a stereotype but Alien x alone would be versatile against quite a lot of the people you use as example (which is why the death battle video was inaccurate) and as for the alien x making the universe over in the defense of that one example ben wasn't even aware while transformed that the universe was being destroyed so because of those milliseconds lost he needed to do something not nothing. humongosaur is just one of thousands of bens aliens that have taken out more groups of people ("hordes") in one sitting
@ValTheBee61604 Жыл бұрын
Side note the flash is an even worse example because him of all people have different variants, continuities where he is stronger, or other people who have dawned the title "the flash" (this is from someone who is the biggest flash fan)
@Darkxboy10000 Жыл бұрын
Ben still has a lot of potential, but he didn't take advantage of it and he didn't control the omnitrix As for seeing that it's the best for me
@ianyoder2537 Жыл бұрын
It's because the writers keep regressing his character into an immature mindset because they love the grow up morale and don't know how to tell any other story ironically making Ben more immature because he always grows older but never grows up.
@willfern1096 Жыл бұрын
It isn't because the writers doesn't know how to do a mature character, in fact, they done it in the first season of alien force, but as rentable and important ben 10 was, cartoon network was always afraid of losing children views and potential to buy toys and other cash grab tactics if the shows got more mature.
@Crescent1400 Жыл бұрын
The part where you said that Alien X let the universe get destroyed so that he could make another one is not correct. Ben didn't believe the annialarg was going to detonate, if you watch the video again Ben says "Wait so the universe really is being destroyed?" Ben was shocked to see that the bomb was indeed destroying the Universe. Plus another reason why Ben isn't using his full potential in the series is because the episodes would be alot shorter. Let's be real here the Omnitrix is very versatile and there plenty of Aliens that can fix problems in an instant, OS Ben 10K proved this when he speedblitz Exo Skull in seconds. I know its harsh but that scene Where Ultimos asked Ben if he could leave a few bad guys for them to handle, Ben 10K has a point being "What would be the point?" A fully powered Ben 10K with a full mastery of the Omnitrix is literally a One Man Army, the only thing stopping him is the plot.
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
1) thanks for watching the video! 2) in Tomorrow's video I'll explain everything about my Alien X's comments and such. So please stay tuned for that. 3) the thing is that Ben shouldnt be the only one at his best. Ben 10k had Mutant Animo, basically Demon Vilgax and he could have many more villains that can put a fight with him.
@jackscrivens9520 Жыл бұрын
Alien x has some decent feats. He could probably take on some of the most powerful characters from other franchises.
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
As I said in the video, he has some decent feats. But compared to other characters he would lose.
@TheNightTyrant Жыл бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 Depends on "WHO" you are pitching him up against.
@xxmension04xx47 Жыл бұрын
@@TheNightTyrant I agree, considering alien X is omnipotent...not a lot of people could actually beat him unless you underestimate alien x's power or overestimate the opponents power
@LiMe251 Жыл бұрын
*insert ben 10 holding the big bang in his hands and recreating the universe after surviving it being destroyed whilst being inside it*
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
Which makes Ben a Universal hero.... Goku, Superman, and many more are MULTIVERSAL which would beat Ben 10 like its easy
@LiMe251 Жыл бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 ben could just scan goku or superman and become a version of them in their prime
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
@@LiMe251 and yet he wouldnt have their same level....
@LiMe251 Жыл бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 if he had the biomnitrix he could fuse them together as one form for himself, and if he had the ultimatrix he could become an ultimate saiyan or an ultimate kryptonian (ultimate forms are created by putting the DNA in simulated worst case scenarios for 1 million years aka 1 million years of training with the prime, strongest example of a saiyan or kryptonian)
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
@@LiMe251 it still wouldnt do much against beings like Superman or Goku. It would take years of training for him to get nearly at their level
@NintendoSegaGuys7 ай бұрын
I don't want Ben to be on the same crazy level as broken characters like Superman, I just want consistency and better writing.
@RomanComicsOff2107 ай бұрын
What I'm saying is that CN could take this character out of the ordinary crew and make him extraordinary. So much so that he could messure up to the big guys of superheroes. Maybe he could reach a Level similar to Invincible.
@walkerdillingham7394 Жыл бұрын
I think you forgot the chronosapien time bomb feat..which was a crisis level feat.
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
That was an actual Multiversal feat... i cant talk about this topic now but i have a theory on this
@TheFaxualScaler3 ай бұрын
Yeah sure we can Debate or Discuss Alien X vs Anime,DC and Marvel If you want what's your Discord?
@RomanComicsOff2103 ай бұрын
@@TheFaxualScaler dm me on IG, i think its in the description
@SandyRegion Жыл бұрын
Hey Roman! Great to see your work on KZbin!
@ShadowDeathBlade93 Жыл бұрын
Good story ark Ben 10M is a good name to your fanfic as I wished they explored the series more when Ben is even more experienced & mature while being a cool father to his son Ken as a grown up while nothing wrong to have a fun side to him
@ROBbYZ_Music Жыл бұрын
I just want to say that if EVER Ben became as serious as he was when he was trying to kill Kevin when he mutated after the fight with Aggregor, if that Ben would've been present throughout the whole franchise, every villain and antagonist would get their ass kicked really really hard. On top, everytime I watch Ben 10 I am screaming inside at moments when Ben for some reason, when he is alone,he chooses to go on foot or by car, instead of selecting someone like Jetray. Yes, you can argue that he "Is SaViNg EnErGy FoR tHe OmNiTrIx", but come on, with jetray he could get anywhere in a few seconds, and I am sure that travelling a few miles at very high speeds doesn't drain the Omnitrix. Otherwise, if we would say that transforming into Aliens and using them too much would result into timing out faster, I consider that by this logic just using a small blast from Way Big should time out Ben, since Way Big is creating blasts that are powerful enough to destroy PLANETS. Thanks for reading this and I believe Ben 10 is one of the greatest, even without Alien X, but no one could make him a real character since a realistic view and a realistic and more "logic" way of character development and story telling would just close of Ben 10 in one season.
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
Love this comment, I think Ben 10 right now would fit in well with Heroes like Deku, All Might and such. This video was made for the people who debate online and say "BeN 10 cAn BeAt AnYoNe" and proceed to ignore these things. I believe that if show writers wanted it, Ben could be on Marvel and DC's Level. I just want to see Ben, Gwen, Kevin, Rook, Max and others at their best and full potential.
@thelegendaryman5504 Жыл бұрын
the reason is simple. his humanity and refusal to just go the easy way is the reason why he doesn't do that and that stays consistent through about 95% of the whole show. the reason he doesn't use powerful aliens on a whim to beat every foe is 1. collateral, it'd be wayyy too overkill, that's like saying superman should just go full power on someone like toyman which wouldn't make any sense. and 2. ben doesn't need to go the strongest alien all the time, when some of his lower level aliens can still do the job well.
@thelegendaryman5504 Жыл бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 i am not going to lie, with all due respect, this video is not very well done and ironically, very ignorant to what happens in ben 10 and downplays a lot of pretty on par things with others just to make it sound like ben somehow does it worse. particular egregious points are stuff like "superman fought parademons and darkseid whilst humungosaur lost his debut episode" which is a dumb argument because it's the equivalent of saying child kal el would lose against darkseid which, no kidding, what's the kid version gonna do. another one is "ben will always be stuck as a kid" which is a bit of an ignorant argument because its just his most iconic version, while you tend to ignore all that comes after. goku's most iconic version is dbz goku, a goku who is nowhere near as strong as dbs manga goku, does that mean we should just ignore what comes after because we see him as just a goofball? it's very ignorant. there are several more points in this video that are not very well explained or just completely ignore things stated and shown in the show or are taking equal level feats and acting like they don't mean much just so you could make the others look better in comparison, but i can't get into them in one comment cuz i'd be writing a short novella at that point. do better. overall, take this as just constructive criticism as you're still learning and stuff, and have a good day.
@thelegendaryman5504 Жыл бұрын
and one more reason, ben 10 not following logic to a T is exactly the reason why other supes dont follow logic to a T. because everything or most things would be ended in less than a season.
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
@@thelegendaryman5504 im not saying he should use his strongest aliens all the time. Im saying that: 1) Ben doesnt explore the Omnitrix [like in OS] and never finds new beings that could do the job easier. 2) even Ben's strongest aliens arent a match against other heroes and villains from outside his universe. The belief that "Ben 10 can beat anyone" is an incorrect statement.
@mohammedtaufeeq3986 Жыл бұрын
The thing with most “Ben 10 versus” discussions….. which, let’s be honest are all just really “Alien X versus”discussions, is that as you pointed out in your very first point, we never got to see Alien X peak. I can’t remember where I heard this from but someone said we can’t actually accurately scale Alien X because of this. Something like “Just because you’ve seen me lift a Tea Cup doesn’t mean that you’ve seen me at my best”. Which I think applies pretty well to Alien X.
@leonardovigilatodemorais7280 Жыл бұрын
love the way you redrew the aliens and other superheroes
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!🔥🔥
@kindlingking Жыл бұрын
Wait, is the premise of this video is how people obsessed with turning characters into action toys for their pointless "debates" don't find Ben 10 appealing because as a fairly good character he's written with flaws and weaknesses, which would make him into a "weak" action toy? Since when did people started caring about this stuff more than good writing, character development and interesting fight choreography? These are stories, damn it, not fighting games.
@petelee2477 Жыл бұрын
3:04 I'd argue that the chronosapian time bomb and the anyilarg are stronger weapons in pure destructive capacity though much less versatile as if given enough time I could find hundreds of use cases for the omitrix as for the anyilarg well I can't think of a single scenario where I'd actually want to destroy the universe. Maybe bluff it as an empty threat but that just assumes that my opponent knows what the device does and I have to convince my enemy that I'm actually insane enough to do it.
@w3mp732 Жыл бұрын
The time bomb erased all of the bens that is not in the universe that the bomb was exploding so the thing could possible kill every goku that is not in the universe that it was detonated
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
The annihilaarhg and the chronosapien time bomb are both powerful but keep in mind, the annihilaarhg was treated as a myth so nobody even knew how it worked and the Chronosapien time bomb had it's effects reversed by Clockwork an alien from the omnitrix.
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
@@w3mp732 if it was programed to, Maybe. Goku has instant transmition which would get him out of that place. Remember, Vilgax's plan was to have every Ben in the same place to eliminate them all at the same time.
@w3mp732 Жыл бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 The thing is, the whole ben battle was just a distraction from the bens learning of the true purpose of the time bomb, if even one of them realized it, the bens would try to stop him, good or bad. As paradox explain in the first half of the episode, once the bomb detonates, all of the bens from all of the different multiverses will be deleted, making the time bomb a multiversal ( or infinite ) destroying weapon.
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
@@w3mp732 that is exactly what I said
@Miles13601 Жыл бұрын
Ben as a child when he had master control changed through aliens ever few seconds in the nulvoid and that’s just as a 10 year old. Doesn’t age or mature? At one point he’s 16 and in the future he’s like 30 and he has moments of maturity but I don’t understand why it’s not constant either so I can kind of accept that. I’m pretty sure Ben has a good idea of what he can do as 16 year old him knows how to lock the omnitrix which 10 year old him doesn’t know how to do and when he’s 30 he’s got master control back and he knows how to put aliens back in his playlist that he lost. As Alien X he can survive and recreate the universe. He also didn’t have a choice letting the universe get destroyed he didn’t convince Alien X fast enough. By the time he knew half the universe was already gone. He also hasn’t been around as long as Superman, hulk, Wonder Woman extra
@mydeadlyadventuredescanorj9756 Жыл бұрын
The one I thing that makes man not take Ben seriously was Atomic X I mean when BTK was introduced in Omniverse with fusion aliens I liked the other but why was Atomix & Alien?
@Maswartz2263 ай бұрын
Probably because the show itself doesn't treat him seriously. They keep regressing his personality because the network wanted it.
@dellmaxson2184 Жыл бұрын
To spite you saying ben doesn't have great competitive feats to other heroes, Ben 10 has great feats but as you said earlier in the video only for a few seconds that ben isn't consistent. AlienX, Clockwork,Feedback & there was 1 more alien that's name escapes me at the moment all have universal-multiversal feats, the problem isn't ability it's how rare their uses are & how little of a f1ck ben gives when using them. For example you brought up the fact that ben duplicated the destroyed universe to the best of his memory rather then just rewinding time & putting all the originals back exactly where they was supposed to be. This is the true reason why ben isn't given as much credibility as other heroes. Great video by the way bro
@silvertongue.242_99 Жыл бұрын
The point of Ben 10 is growing as a person we won't see him as Ben 10,000 his full potential. Unless they do a show or comic on him as an adult getting to Ben 10,000 status or even turning into a adult like pass 18 where he knows all aspects of his watch
@joel12459 ай бұрын
4:52 That depends the scenarios. If you mean like Humungousaur gets overwhelmed by the Stalker and Rex Salazar, the former had scoutted Humungousaur as well as exploiting his vulnerability to electricity, while Rex had proven to be very strong and ensnared him with his Blast Caster so he had to switch tactics.
@RomanComicsOff2109 ай бұрын
No, I mean that Humungousaur gets beaten up by the Highbreed (which he could fight just fine), Psyphon (no dwarf Star) and such.
@joel12459 ай бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 Psyphon is understandable as he bested an Ultimate Arachnichimp... somehow. But the Highbreed, come on. It's Ben's first usage of Humungousaur and back into hero activity after 5 years. That don't count.
@RomanComicsOff2109 ай бұрын
@@joel1245 and the one where he got a black eye?
@joel12459 ай бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 They're in public area. Humungousaur can't risk growing bigger and making more collateral damages.
@RomanComicsOff2109 ай бұрын
@@joel1245 and the time Ben got framed, Ben and the Highbreed were fighting and if it wasnt for Kev and Gwen he'd be screwed
@Tari_10_Editz Жыл бұрын
Anime fanboys: Ben 10 sucks Sane people: Ben 10 is good
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
The thing is anime fans know little of Ben 10 or worse.... they only know the Reboot....
@4zechan271 Жыл бұрын
Could you do a review on Kamen Rider too? They're also heroes.
@theultimateawesome551610 ай бұрын
Because he needs alien X to hang with the big bois
@unruly-dragon Жыл бұрын
So who drew all of these arts?
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
Me
@unruly-dragon11 ай бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 nice! How does it look now?
@unruly-dragon11 ай бұрын
Nevermind they still look great
@RomanComicsOff21011 ай бұрын
@@unruly-dragon check out my latest video, i show how my art is looking now
@randomcelestialsapien115 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I have seen all the shows and Serpent has never actually beaten Ben’s aliens the only time he has ever beaten Ben is as goop but he needed a machine designed to counter his powers to do that
@silvertongue.242_99 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Gwen and Kevin is struggle with Serpent for some reason
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec Жыл бұрын
I can say the same to Iron Man. I say Ben is a better hero than Iron Man and I like Iron Man.
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
Iron Man is a fully developed hero and knows what he cant and can do. Ben still doesnt achieve his full potential.
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec Жыл бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 Yeah? How many time does Tony « reject the call to action »? And how many times does Ben « reject the call to action »? Yeah. My thoughts exactly. Being a better hero doesn’t mean having power that turn everything into nothing. Being a better hero means how willing you are to help other people.
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec and how many times has Ben got his ass beat for being cocky or because he didn't take the situation seriously. Ben has also had times that he doesnt want to be a hero. But all still do because of the greater good. Yet this video is about the Ben 10 vs other heroes debates.
@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec11 ай бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210Yeah, that never happen. Getting your ass beat comes with being a hero. Sure he could have taking hero seriously. But never wanted to be a hero? Now I know you don’t just know Jack shit about Ben Tennyson. You are writing liable. That’s an offense you’ll be seeing in court buddy.
@evanhackler98769 ай бұрын
What about Tokusatsu heroes? Like kamen rider ichigo and nigo for example.
@RomanComicsOff2109 ай бұрын
Ben is not beating any of them
@yukisoba8888 Жыл бұрын
half of these points show you have no understanding of the show or the character ☠ok here goes 1. Ben only got master control for short moments twice in the show because it would be boring to watch him have master control CONSTANTLY, he'd be op as fuck and it's not entertaining. I also don't think Ben deserves Master control throughout most of the show due to his immaturity. The reason Ben is an interesting hero is because he's not constantly at his full power. He gets a taste of master control during situations he would NOT have come out on top of without it, and him having the limits of the omnitrix is just way more entertaining to watch especially considering how op mc is. 2. I don't really see what your point is here. him being immature is SUPPOSED to limit him as a hero. like it's so obvious that they did that as a purposeful weakness that they CONSTANTLY address throughout the show. 3. again, it almost seems like you just haven't watched the show. Ben has experimented A LOT with the omnitrix and what it can/can't do. For example doctor animo and the mutant ray, back with a vengeance, duped, and so much more. He actively looks for opportunities to scan aliens to add them to his arsenal. He literally obtained master control through trying to learn more about the omnitrix's power in one episode, and this is why it feels like you just haven't watched the show or at least watched it ages ago and barely remember it. 4. Also yes. Ben 10 is an EXTREMELY inconsistent show. ESPECIALY uaf (ultimate alien and alien force) with a lot of aliens just having "one-off" powers that never show up again. so i can't really debate you on this point, you're right, the show is very inconsistent. 5. also so? there's nothing wrong a hero being more "grounded" (and yeah i know ben 10 can be like very grand and whatever a lot of times and other times very grounded) but regardless you're wrong anyway. Dagon is literally a god from another dimension who was only beat because ben had ascalon ☠i don't see how you could consider that a weak villain at all. Also in omniverse ben fought a celestial sapien who would A LOT of control over themselves, so again, another one of his villains which is basically a god i don't see how you could consider that not comparable to other villains. 6. god i hear this all the time it's so fucking stupid. Ok ben did NOT create the universe "as he remembered it". Ben has not seen the entire universe. if the recreated universe was based on his knowledge, he could not have created star systems and planets that he hasn't been to. but he did. belicus and serena are nigh omniscient and their knowledge was used to recreate the universe. The fact that you could think it's based on ben's knowledge is so stupid because mr smoothies, something he's loved for years, was very different to a point where he didn't like it anymore. anyway yeah ben doesn't have as good feats as superman or whatever but again, not really a downside. Superman is so hard to like as a character because he's basically god and has pretty much no limits to his power. it feels so unserious to see a character that can do these STUPIDLY insane feats for no reason. bens best feats are with a transformation he can BARELY control. it's so much more interesting to watch a superhero who actually has limitations and can't just beat literally anyone in one hit. the fact that you consider a superhero good based on how powerful a lot is just lame and op superheros are boring to a lot of people. and the thing is, ben 10 is no weak hero either. it's just compared to heros like superman he seems much more grounded. also jetray going hyperspace was another 1 off power and never something jetray was supposed to be able to do, the writers say it's a "glitch power" caused by the ultimatrix malfunctioning and honestly i'll take that despite how dumb it is in itself just because i think jetray going hyperspace is stupid.
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
1. Thanks for watching 2. I have watched the show and Im rewatching it. Half of your points are based on how you like superheroes. (Which is not bad) 3. Dagon is probably one if not the most powerful villain Ben has faced, theres no denying that. But compared to Antimonitor, Darkseid, Perpetua and such...he lacks in comparison. 4. I like heroes who aren't limited and have a consintent personality. Imagine seeing Superman only shoot one optic blast and then he cant use it until next day.... that'd be dumb. 5. This video is strictly for online debaters that ignore basically all feats just to say Ben 10 beats everyone. 6. A Ben 10k show would be a Banger if done correctly. 7. Thanks if you read all of this
@yukisoba8888 Жыл бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 idk, to me, a limited hero is way more entertaining to watch, ben not always getting the right alien, or timing out, or barely being able to control alien x to me is so much more fun to watch than superman who's barely limited. also idk a ben 10k should COULD be good but i sorta think like it might not be as entertaining because he'd kinda be a bit op, so im not sure. i still strongly believe they should've done a spin off such as gwen 10 or smth like that. anyways i feel like we both look for different things in superheroes. which is fine, it's your opinion i guess. i just think faulting ben as a character or saying he's not as good of a hero for it isn't really fair ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
@@yukisoba8888 again, is YOUR perpective in heroes. I feel that CN took the easy route instead of doing a 10k show because of that same reason. I feel that OS Ben having problems with the watch is funny and understandable, yet Ben UAF and OV doing the same gimmick is repetitive and boring. But again, this is a matter of opinions!
@yukisoba8888 Жыл бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 yeh ig
@harolddelgadoherrera7152 Жыл бұрын
Nice video man
@silvertongue.242_99 Жыл бұрын
I don't rest mind Ben not at his strongest. Honestly by like Ultimate alien to omniverse most villians are not at that level to test him.
@erehjeager64747 ай бұрын
Ben wouldn’t be able to become a titan
@TheNightTyrant Жыл бұрын
Villains >>>> Heroes Joker with his presence alone draw billions in the media and Hot topic.
@kremitmemeord3659 Жыл бұрын
Great video and love your drawings
@NoxiMation Жыл бұрын
goat video and writing
@Buzz956 Жыл бұрын
Simple. His stories have no consequence. They always end with ben winning. UAF tried to give some stakes but eventually even they rolled back eg grandpa max dying which was supposed to be for real but they clearly retconned it because if grandpa max got blasted to the null void , how come the highbreed and the dna aliens who were there didnt end up with him? I know some people will say but didnt he lose the og universe during the anialarg? Well the show brushed it off as if it was nothing and you guys are taking it way more seriously than it is. He loses feedback for good, or so we thought and got it back. See my point? There is no stakes for him and his story always ends with him living happily ever after. The end.
@RomanComicsOff210 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly one of the things that keeps Ben 10 as a cartoon and not a Top tier hero
@Lifeishandleand Жыл бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210this actually make me mad the original comment was Ben just has a happy end Ben universe is gone every one he ever love is gone the duplicate the real one are dead but the comments after this so cartoon character can be strong but like why I see if you a cartoon you weak and can never be a top tier character it would be so fun to see a cartoon character be strong than the top tier character like the point it stupid most of your points are stupid and just rude but you have some good points so I give you that
@darthgamer2014 Жыл бұрын
So I see the remaking the universe argument a lot when people try talk their way around the power of Alien X and as a result Ben 10 (seeing as Alien X is the most powerful transformation we get to see aside from Atomix X) the thing is, Ben didn't notice the destruction of the universe until it was too late because he had been debating with Belarus and Sabrina as a result Ben, Belarus and Sabrina decided to remake the universe off of Ben's photographic memory. Had they gone back in time instead people would herald it as a feat of singular greatness.
@thehighestorder28687 ай бұрын
Creating a universe is not even impressive when you look at other fiction
@darthgamer20147 ай бұрын
@@thehighestorder2868 Wow.... Okay then. So tell me in those other fictions, how powerful does a character need to be to create a universe?
@thehighestorder28687 ай бұрын
@@darthgamer2014 In something like DC or Marvel, you only need to be a low tier herald. In Cthulu mythos, even the weakest gods can create multiverses. In Archie comics, the top tiers can rewrite entire multiverses. In Dragon Ball Xenoverse, no one has created a universe but they have destroyed infinite universes. In Digimon, the strongest beings range from complex multiversal to outerversal. In pokemon, the strongest legendary pokemon can create universes, and Arceus, the most powerful of them all, created the pokemon multiverse.
@johntheanimator4317 Жыл бұрын
noice
@Theben10matrixes9 ай бұрын
But Ov is the one series which debunks this
@kristelvidhi503811 ай бұрын
How many dislikes does this video have?
@EmmetGillespie-b7r11 ай бұрын
Ben Tennyson can defeat anyone
@RomanComicsOff21011 ай бұрын
Any actual proof or this is just an opinion?
@EmmetGillespie-b7r11 ай бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 yea either tune into the ink tank or just watch the show from alien force onwards and you'll see
@RomanComicsOff21011 ай бұрын
@@EmmetGillespie-b7r i have watched both.... still no proof
@EmmetGillespie-b7r11 ай бұрын
@@RomanComicsOff210 clearly you haven't paid attention to any of alien x's feats or all the other aliens feats either. And plus no one can beat Ben as the Omnitrix is jam-packed with failsafes that Just won't let him die
@RomanComicsOff21011 ай бұрын
@@EmmetGillespie-b7r 1. Kuro himself has stated that his videos and his claims are theories and speculations and that the audience is able to interpret the info. 2. Writers of the series argue and have made inconsistent statements. The one I can take seriously is Dwayne Mcduffie as he says that what's canon is what happens in the show and it still doesnt show anything that could beat other bigger heroes. 3. He is not even at his best most of the time. He is not beating no one like that..... 4. The failsafes wont work with many of the greater heroes