Why Ben Shapiro Should Quit Movie Reviews

[@BensonBoy2019]

I HATE FOOT STIMULATION

[@robertgaudet7407]

THE EMMA WATSON CRIME FAMILY MUST BE STOPPED.

[@H8box]

Me too bro

[@sasmoz1393]

You alone on that one brotha

[@MaxiemumKarnage]

You're so real for that

[@nephilimritual-band]

Emma Watson Needs To Pay.

[@Nalyretsmorh]

Only 40 seconds into the video and Ben has already complained about a black woman playing Cat Woman.. meanwhile Eartha Kitt is one of the most iconic Cat Woman actresses lol

[@ogolthorp]

And halle berry

[@__prometheus__]

I think he jerks off to finding ways on how to label anything involving a black person as “woke/DEI” even if the actor puts on a good performance. Dudes a massive cornball

[@communistcomputergod6449]

Ever since Batman year one, short hair black woman Selena Kyle is my favorite version. So I’m completely cool with Zoe Kravitz playing her. Even Halle Berry(not the suit), though that didn’t save the catwoman movie. there is no reason to complain about Catwoman being black as long the catwoman part is spot on! Would be same when it comes to Two Face imo

[@viderevero1338]

Shes been black countless times. I don't really see the point of arguing about something as arbitrary as the race of a fictional character, *when their race* isn't important to their character. Unless we're talking as if Batman has to be some sort of eugenic Aryan-seeker optimizing the best possible 'white stock' for his genes, Talia Al Ghoul style lmao.

[@TTFilosofica]

@@viderevero1338 but if the race wasnt important, why then bring up the white bad thing?

[@jackordway2016]

Tom learned the word “reductive” and never looked back

[@DPedroBoh]

Once you reduct, you're never the same.

[@TDragonus]

learned it from Destiny no doubt

[@VaporubLord]

seeing bens takes on this movie actually pains me because hes so confidently wrong and intentionally misunderstanding the plot and characters

[@vulpesinculta3238]

That's Ben's takes on everything. I haven't seen this movie, but I've heard Ben talk about things I do know about, and his takes on those things were sub-zero.

[@andy34isabor89]

​@@vulpesinculta3238I'd never heard him be so confidently incorrect though that's so horrible

[@Tungsten_Metal]

GOONING STOP GOONING YOUR PROFILE IT"S GOONING

[@ayjay579]

Just wait until you hear is takes on literally everything else 😂

[@Thelorecookie]

@@ayjay579 He also thinks that films should be awarded best picture based on rewatchability

[@Watooski]

The funniest part is not only does Shapiro claim to be a DC guy (who then got the next fact he said about DC wrong, in the same sentence) but he tried to be a screenwriter before he was political commentator. And he fundamentally doesn’t get movies lol he’s never had a coherent take on a film he’s seen

[@bearythebear69]

@@Watooski watch his musical reviews. You are in fact wrong ☝️🤨

[@SPRIZZYSPROW]

When I saw Tom was doing a reaction to a “Bad Ben Shapiro review” I knew it was for The Batman…

[@AcshualSnotski]

Barbie was worse

[@zogwort1522]

Ben Shapiro describing sex: "At first I was like 'alright'. Then I was like 'Nyeheh'. And the longer I thought about it, the angrier I got."

[@Alex-bi9mk]

The reason i like this movie is because its a take on Batman: Year Zero. Batman isn't the worlds greatest detective yet. He's only been batman gor less than a year and you can see his doubt and mistakes

[@writingeulogy]

Tom having fire batman takes, and batman being a detective is more interesting

[@MaxiemumKarnage]

Batman is just a shoddy ripoff of Beltman

[@YSOGRIMJIM]

Beltman < Batman

[@MaxiemumKarnage]

@@YSOGRIMJIM batman would fold to a level 4 sausage

[@rollingvice]

generally, it's what batman should have been. he debuted in detective comics. and he is just a costume vigilante with no super power.

[@jrock3841]

Ben's review for The Batman is just as bad as Matt Walsh's review for Sonic 3.

[@gregoryblack8109]

Ew Matt walsh

[@MisterDriskul]

Hey! Matt had the best reason on why he didn't pay attention to Sonic. Because he was busy looking around the theater for fertile 16 yr olds.

[@AcshualSnotski]

Sonic 3 was mind numbing

[@WizardofGargalondese]

Matt walsh is a troll/lolcow

[@henrylangham6428]

Matt Walsh is based

[@ImpracticalShield]

When are we getting the TomDarkKnight channel that's batman only content

[@tombanaboni3895]

would be a fire lego building and review channel

[@thelawlessone666]

Tom not talking about “breadtube” for once??? Holy strokes

[@3_character_minimum]

Meh.... Ben Shapiro is just as bad just not politically aligned

[@ameliamaerichardson3484]

Ikr, I understand his reason for wanting to be a fence sitter, and I cant say I blame him as it's good for $, refreshing to hear him actually cover something on the right since it's been a while. I enjoy Tom, I genuinely think he is just young, and learning. I dont think he has a lot of bad takes, I think he is just REALLY REALLY deaf to modern day politics. Not that I think he's bad or anything just I think he'll grow to stop being so pessimistic/doomer/cringelord. I genuinely think he is just either slightly right leaning internally, or insecure with his politics, to the point where he just mostly critiques the left without acknowledging the nuance. As he says in the video he doesnt want the "blue haired crowd" (which is kind of cringe but I understand the demographic he's talking about). There is a fine line in commentary videos where you can make fun of things while also acknowledging the nuance. I'm trans, and dating a straight white guy. I know even saying that I'll leave a bad "mouth feel" for some of his demographic, but personally I think his navigation of critiques on queer people in general is strange. Not that he is always bad, moreso that he is just a white straight guy, who doesnt have queer friends, at least ones that are comfortable enough to make fun of his mental image of queer ppl, to the point where he chills a bit on it.

[@gregoryblack8109]

​​@@3_character_minimumuh no, breadtube is literally filled with some of the most disturbing and mentally unstable people I've ever seen

[@blacksuitnotie]

@@ameliamaerichardson3484 Lil bro wrote a dissertation in the comments section.

[@HunsWithGuns]

@@ameliamaerichardson3484 "I'm trans, and dating a straight white guy" he's not straight

[@jamesmccarthy4777]

As a conservative...this is exactly why I hate the daily wire. They behave in the exact same manner as their woke counterparts.

[@nickl6373]

as a liberal i also think ben makes right wingers i like like sam hyde and razor fist look really bad

[@thealexeitube]

As an Australian you both sound based despite identifying with red vs blue

[@traviskurtz1244]

I’ve shown this to trumps Twitter account

[@donaldthomann1613]

Exactly what I thought. Instead of actually finding "wokeness" in media, he goes in with his mind made up already and works backwards. Like, "how can I shoehorn in the woke? Oooh, a black woman. Shit's woke".

[@colbybell5378]

@@nickl6373Sam Hyde might just be a neo nazi bro

[@Akursedtime]

This may be the reason why Ben's screenwriting career failed.

[@Ryzard]

What do you mean, he's super successful! His movies won tons of awards from his company and the publisher!!!

[@DefiantReclaimer]

How is it he could call out Catwoman being "a woman of color" when 2 of the best known actresses for the role have been... women of color. And long before the whole "woke mind virus"

[@Olter_]

Halle berry didn't call batman a privileged rich white man though

[@BaconNMegs]

Because black people in movies is just the woke mind virus at work it cant ever be just because theyre a good actor

[@seniorcatz6891]

@@Olter_ he is tho He literally has a Butler, lives in mansion, has millions (billions in some cases) of dollars through generational wealth But he went through something that changed the course of his life when he was younger and wants to change the world for the better with the resources he was privileged to have so that way no one else can go through what he went through

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

​@@seniorcatz6891There were not simply stating it as a fact, which is sad if they think the audience would need it spelled out for them. But rather they are using it as an insult, a put down, because of their ideology.

[@Olter_]

@@seniorcatz6891 Being orphaned is privileged? You are out of your mind

[@joywagner979]

The state of modern "media literacy" is such that I'm actually shocked to hear someone point out that a character's opinions and worldview do not necessarily reflect those of the writer/s or director. Then again, so much of modern writing is terrible because certain characters are obvious self-inserts of and mouthpieces for the writer/s or director.

[@TheKrystiano91]

That one movie review is a perfect summary of Shapiro's world view and personality overall. He is the kind of guy that will put bullet proof doors in schools and give guns to teachers insted of stopping senceless bulling and improving mental health of the youth.

[@NotWorthBeans16]

One of my favorite scenes from Batman Beyond comes from the episode where Shrieves uses a sound amplifier to make people think they have voices in their heads. Shrieves uses it on Bruce and when Terry asks how he knew the voices weren't just in his head. Bruce responds: "The voices kept calling me Bruce. In my mind I don't call myself that." It really puts into perspective who is the persona.

[@MrExtraordinaire16]

I completely disagree and hate that. I know that Bruce timm beleive bruce wayne is the fake personality while batman is he's real identity but it is worth saying that Paul dini, who made some of the best batman episodes of all time,also thinks that there is this battle between batman and bruce where bruce plays the role of the characters torment who finds compassion for all his enemy and who made the vow to never take a life while batman plays the role of the dark vigilante fighting for a broken city. Also it is worth mentioning that that scene you mentioned, you could argue bruce is an aged man who has lost everything and therefore has given up to his identity of batman and no longer feels like bruce after all that's happened

[@goodfellow9607]

“The more I thought about it, the angrier I became.” Just another Tuesday for Ben.

[@PinoShroom]

As someone whos been a Batman fan for my whole life and consuming all forms of media about him, its so cool seeing someone whos relatively new in the fanbase go in on people like this because Tom hits the nail on the head so accurately and repeatedly for someone whos basically saying "I dont know a whole lot, but what I do know is..." many times especially when hes talking about Gotham city being as much as a character as Bruce Wayne is.

[@Phoenix00756]

Tom, Destiny sent me one of our son's fingers in the mail, you need to negotiate with him for our son's release

[@Tungsten_Metal]

YOU. ARE. A. GOONER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@sorianorodriguez5784]

15 secs no views, must’ve gooned

[@YungMugiwara]

NEVER GOON

[@mechchungus4702]

@@sorianorodriguez5784 when do we do crime boss?

[@akaliislifeakaliislove5968]

This is essentially Tom doing a movie review while shitting on a bad review, you could do more of these

[@ElleQueenBee]

catwoman was black in a season of the 60s show. 👀

[@littlegiantj8761]

Ertha Kitt too; MMMMAMA!

[@CarlFredrik-uo1cu]

Ranking Batman v Superman above both Tim Burton Batman movies is a crime in itself

[@tman7095]

I think Ben kinda misses the point that batman is a HERO! What do HERO's do? Save/help people, and also beat up bad guys.

[@BunnieWabbit]

*Why Ben Shapiro should quit

[@felonycases]

Id consider myself more "right leaning" but I'm not particularly a fan of Ben Shapiro

[@peterrose1638]

Immediately into the "Verdict" section, "The movie is a bit woke, but that isn't the problem. The problem is the woke orientation..." So the problem isn't that the movie is woke, but that the movie is woke?

[@Skater901]

It's woke to have black characters who are good people?? What???

[@Skater901]

"You can't have a character in a movie have a woke opinion without it ruining the movie." It's the exact reverse of what far-left wing people think. "This piece of media has a racist character in it? Obviously it's made by racists and it's promoting racism!" Never mind that the racist character is the butt of every joke and the piece of media is portraying this racist character as an idiot and a bad person. You can have characters that have ideologies and views that you, the creator, don't agree with. Geez.

[@Agent_Zero-ql9tu]

@@Skater901 you know how these people are Anyone that is black,woman or gay or anything in between and far apart is woke

[@GarakTain]

Youre really good at this Turkish Thomas.....The analysis of this and yesterday's explanation of "HONEST" Journalism shows your aptitude for media analysis

[@bruce0816]

The best thing about batman is he realizes that not only must he fight the "evil" but he has to help the "good" and because of his background, he still has sympathy for his foes

[@Clorox142]

NGL, I love movie analysis Tom, we need more

[@mrnoodlr0284]

31:00 slight disagree, as a turbo Batman nerd, Batman is fully Bruce Wayne and Batman. One of the problems he’s facing in the movie is that he’s devoting himself only to being Batman and cutting out Bruce Wayne. It’s true that the Bruce Wayne he puts on in front of other people is a farce but he is still Bruce Wayne just as much as he is Batman.

[@cult_m3chanicu523]

This is true the ultimate Batman is when he fully realises both versions of himself to the highest potential

[@NotGarfield87]

Ben complaining about Cat Woman of all characters being black is so funny to me because she’s the most fitting to play a black actress because her costume has always been that of a BLACK CAT 😭

[@MarquisLeary34]

You went after the Facts over Feelings guy?! Oh Tom. Tommy, my boy. You just got a one way ticket to cancel-ville for this take. You're gonna get branded a wokie before the rooster crows.

[@JosephStpierre-y9u]

@@MarquisLeary34 cancelled for what😂 having good takes on Ben’s bad takes? U not very smart are yah feller

[@уронить]

The projection is strong with this one

[@MarquisLeary34]

@@JosephStpierre-y9u Oh I am. I understand right wing grifters and their ballwashers....

[@MarquisLeary34]

@ Projection of what?

[@уронить]

@@MarquisLeary34 your attitude around online discourse. Literally no one (no one normal) thinks Tom is ‘woke’ for criticizing Ben Shapiro’s terrible movie review.

[@SupaSavage24]

Can’t. Stop. Gooning.

[@CEOofWasrael]

I goon to Ben Shapiro

[@dapper-ant2634]

It's Tom's haircut isn't it? Understandable

[@ChaseDaOrk3767]

Ambatugoon

[@sirhappyman]

STOP TICKLING MY FEET TOM!!! I KNOW YOURE AI!!!!

[@tenderbarknight]

This comment stimulated my feet.

[@nickl6373]

"ben shapiro" is an anagram for "bat man destroyed"

[@shishiromura]

Cumtown's impressions of him were the height of his career.

[@MikesBikerRadio]

A note about the score for The Batman is the main theme is not referencing the Nolan film but is in fact referencing Something In The Way by Nirvana

[@realchoodle]

Honestly the way you talk about Batman actually makes me want to get into it. I would totally watch a channel where you do analysis on Batman/DC stuff.

[@ImNotWrongBruh_on_X]

Tom, Sherlock Holmes has something to say about your "worlds greatest detective" comment lol

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

Lol I thought the same thing... And Poirot, then I realized how many fictional detectives I like lol

[@XxCrankyMoosexX]

@@NotAnotherKuromi Poirot mentioned?? BASED literate commenter is not what I was expecting tonight

[@samcats123]

I have been waiting so long for a response like this!!!

[@flipdiesel9652]

New TomFilms channel coming in nicely toobz

[@ethanpond1195]

I understand liking villains that are complex and sympathetic, but I think there is space for pure evil villains as well. They can be fun or threatening. Like Emperor Palpatine.

[@3br1ce7]

yes… but you just barely miss the point. emperor palpatine only works because of darth vader. palpatine IS pure evil, but he’s a foil for vader. vader is almost pure evil but just shy of it, and the difference comes to a head when vader saves luke and kills palpatine.

[@ethanpond1195]

@3br1ce7 I like that idea, but I think I disagree that Palpatine only works as a foil for Vader. Yes that's his purpose in the original trilogy, but in the clone wars T.V. show, there are a few episodes which he is in that just show his pure evilness and honestly I think it works great. Like when he has Fives drugged to make him appear insane so nobody would believe him, and when he shows up at the end of an arc, Kills Savage and makes Maul beg for mercy.

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

True, I also think some tilt the scales too far to make the villain sympathetic and blame external factors for why they ended up committing so many evil acts. Rather than making their past an explanation but showing that they still made bad choices, and decided to become who they are. And that others make better choices.

[@matt_9112]

Shapiro made a Star Wars monie tier list some years ago, might wanna check that out 😂 (there was an EFAP react at the time if you don't want to watch him directly/it's hard to find)

[@3br1ce7]

@@ethanpond1195 ill take your word for it just dont kill me bc i havent seen all of clone wars😅 fake fan ik ik its on my list

[@3br1ce7]

Ben 100% knows what he’s doing. He is the beginning and end of the feedback loop. It doesn’t make sense; that’s the point. Invoking an emotion reaction is the only purpose.

[@upisandhu]

@@3br1ce7 completely agree

[@Bobs-burgers]

Marvel in its entirety has a weak rogues gallery iron man you can maby name 4 villains, hulk maby name 2, Thor same deal, every avenger same deal, the closest rogues gallery to Batman where you know almost every villain is spider man and don’t even get me started on hawk eye and his villainous doppleganger hawk two ughh

[@curlybill3666]

Wait, Hawkeye actually has villains?

[@drewbydoobydoo2918]

I fuckin loved Matt Reeves' Batman. He intentionally includes 1:1 scenes of Batman and the Riddler doing the same things to show they are the same person, rationalizing their actions in different ways. During the Riddler interrogation scene you can see the other's face reflected in the glass next to the other, acting as a kiteral mirror for the two of them. The true Riddler and Batman come out when the masks go on. Both want to hurt people, they just have different targets. Both are targeting criminals, but The Bat is going for the low-hanging fruit (low-life criminals like Catwoman who are victims themselves, but still do bad things) and achieving nothing, and the Riddler is going after the leaders of the institutions, but probably hurting the cause through his terrorism. Both are telling themselves that they are doing these things to save the city and downtrodden, but their respective alter-egos are simply literal masks for their true desires, which is to take out their pain on others. I thought Pattinson's acting was great. He comes across as vengeful, awkward, insecure at times, etc. Batman being suave and cool so young doesn't make sense. He's a sheltered semi-orphan with very limited real world experience, and he is driven (through most of the film) by a desire for revenge, not altruism. The altruism is his excuse for taking out his pain on others. He's starting to get there by the end, realizing he needs to take a more active role in Wayne Enterprises to ensure corruption isn't stealing the funds, so the company can continue to operate and donate money to make change at a high level, and be more focused on actually helping people (and to do so he'll have to learn to play the suave charachter to network and make change). Ben absolutely doesn't get it. "He doesn't need to go to Madison Square Garden and beat people up" but he does! He just also has to go a step further and actually help people too. Yes, he needs to help poor people so they dont feel like they have to turn to crime. There is no defund the police narrative. The cops are overextended and lacking resources to do their job. they are falling to corruption because they feel helpless and downtrodden themselves. As tom said, this goes against Bens "fuck you, I got mine" and "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" (something ben has never had to do) ideology. Ben even seems contemptive of charity saying "money wont fix it." While failing to realize that beating up poor people who have turned to crime also achieves nothing. Battinson went hard

[@drewbydoobydoo2918]

I'm hard

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

I agree Batman being cool doesn't make much sense and some okay him too charismatic. He is often shown to be good at small talk at and dinner party but still have trouble actually connecting with people and letting people see the real him. Him as the batman is his cool version, you need to see some Clark Kent to balance it out and retain some realism. I also think Batman being so visibly active and well known in the city gives the citizens hope. Often what makes or breaks someone's life is deciding to take the right path and lack of hope, self belief, and resilience is often the deciding factor.

[@XxCrankyMoosexX]

Tom, this was a great review of the movie. You should make more of these lol

[@deseuryderia]

dude needs to quit grifting and movie reviews and instead needs to review musicals instead. bro had a different light in his eyes while talking about wicked 💀

[@AcshualSnotski]

The way Ben is interpreting this is that every POC is a good person, and mostly everyone else is flawed. That's why he points it out

[@CJSopranoYT]

Thank you Tom, you just made things right. ALSO very interesting that in this film, the bad guy’s goal is actually beneficial to the city. It takes Batman through this whole journey, learning about the corruption and unsure whether he sees a difference between himself and Riddler. He has to draw a line at murder but he’s still unsure that that’s enough to put himself on the right side of things. And he’s stuck in a situation where he even thinks the people deserve their fate. It’s the perfect plot to develop Batman as an early character, absolutely masterful stuff. Ben seems to not understand anything this film was trying to do

[@thaboyfraser]

Let’s say, hypothetically, I wanted my wife - who’s a doctor - to dress up as Catwoman, okay gang. Now let’s say, she says no. She doesn’t want to do dress up in the bedroom, unless I dress up as Batman, but I don’t want to. This is the future liberals want, both partners playing dress-up? Together? Literally communism, folks.

[@Cardali]

Your take on why Batman's rogues' gallery elevates Batman himself is insanely good. You must have high Media Literermancy.

[@hrolfthestrange]

Shapiro is really at the forefront of innovatively defining woke: 'woke is when black people are good guys instead of obviously the bad guys like they should be'

[@Shadow30001]

I cant handle him anymore

[@hrolfthestrange]

Also I think Ben would've said the exact same BS if they made the riddler black and a couple more good guys white, it's almost like he's just generally opposed to having black people in a movie?

[@Yakushi0Mikatsu]

Can you expect anything else from the guy who thinks Rap isn't music? Lol

[@MaxiemumKarnage]

Okay that's based but this movie review is ass

[@whateverwhatever4026]

Who? Tom? Because Ben IS a rapper..

[@new_super_mario_brothers_WEEHE]

Clearly he hasn't heard the BWC song

[@eprimchad2576]

Rap is barely music, its the lowest possible tier of music, its like good music with everything stripped out of it leaving only rhymes and a listenable beat.

[@Yakushi0Mikatsu]

@@eprimchad2576 you're right, rythm, rhyming, lyricism, chorus, sound design, structure, style, flare and sometimes subtext are not music at all, just barely music

[@basedjenny7362]

Tom calls Nirvana cringey but listens to Falling In Reverse

[@DanTheMilkMan211]

This is literally the conservative equivalent of leftists complaining that there’s not enough representation in movies and games, Ben is kinda an idiot

[@thepostaldude2217]

Nah, villains that are just evil are waaaay better

[@rennkin6322]

Me when i'm projecting

[@thepostaldude2217]

Im just correct here

[@mentalyunstabletable9148]

Depends on how they are handeled Pure evil villian and "complex" one can suck ass

[@KthuLew]

Depends on the story. The Joker is pure evil, and it works because his "one bad day" mirrors Batman's. Michael Myers is pure evil for no reason, and it works because that's unfathomable in a traditional suburban neighborhood. Flip the stories they are in, and although it would be a riot, wouldn't work from a story perspective.

[@JD23_]

DIO the goat

[@cloverconnect3911]

So i paused the video to watch the movie, I'm back, and it was awesome.

[@josephmassaro]

I thought I was the only one who wanted to see 2 hours of Batman CSI. Reeves's Batman is my favorite live action of the Dark Knight Detective.

[@willy_b_coyote]

This review has the same energy as Xanderhal glazing Amazon for making Rings of Power. He’s only doing it because it’s politically convenient for him.

[@khanburger3610]

Tom’s doing this cause he likes Batman and cause Ben has bad media literacy

[@lotty.]

What?? Political brainrot clouds your judgement on media?? Who would've thought!

[@MaxiemumKarnage]

Thomas the Turkey, you should watch all of the DC animated movie universe. Been rewatching them with my SO and forgot how great some of them are and them being an hour and 15 minutes/hour and a half tops is great for not having to invest like 3 hours into a movie you can't even goon to

[@TJP5.0]

Also on the movie time complaint, you can look up how long a movie is before you see it and can choose not to watch it

[@frogz8317]

I love a good sympathetic villain like the next guy but theres something about irredeemable villains like Penguin that I just adore mainly I love hating them. We see too many attempts of making a villain reasonable and you want to feel bad for them. But for me there something about passionately hating a character so much you pray on their downfall which makes me more engaged with the story. Sometimes they dont have to have a reason they can just be deplorable guys we love to hate.

[@Gabowabo1]

Very good video loved hearing tom ramble about something that isn't just drama

[@boomshroomgoonmoon]

The batman is no where near the quality of dark knight

[@HookersAndCoke]

You should play the Arkham Trilogy Tom. (Asylum, City, and Knight) It’s really cool. He does pretty sweet detective work in it so you jump right in his shoes. All his equipment is awesome and Arkham Knight looks amazing still despite being almost 10 years old now. I feel like the Arkham series portrayed him so good PLUS voiced by Kevin Conroy and Mark Hammil for Joker among other amazing voice actors

[@ns0314]

I'm pretty sure in a previous video Tom said he's been playing the series already

[@HookersAndCoke]

@ oh okay I had no idea. You’d think he’d mention those during the video 😂 especially with the all the good voice actors

[@matt_9112]

I'm a Nolan (and Raimi for that matter) guy. Doesn't mean any other/new/different Batman (or Spiderman) movie is bad, just my age and nostalgia showing, of which I am aware. That being self-aware is something Ben really isn't good at.

[@blueclube30000]

Watching the batman movie was like watching the Jimmy Neutron episode when he was acting like Sherlock holmes with emo music.

[@ocha-time]

“The way you analyze this movie is impressive” “Watching the movie explains the movie”

[@Shrimp_sauce]

It’s very jarring to see Tom giving such a detailed and eloquent analysis of this movie because I’m so used to him just talking about internet drama and making jokes. Really good review though, I enjoyed it

[@wackydude2137]

I don’t think the most relatable villains are the best. The joker is the best villain in the films, not because you relate to him but because he is such a monstrous villain.

[@maplebob23]

The Batman was terrible except for Paul Dano.

[@s_sunshower]

ben has the ability to comprehend a superhero show only as complex as the powerpuff girls (no shade to ppg)

[@ashirtlessrussianyeti6958]

Batman comes to realize through the movie that simply fighting villains whenever they pop up wont cure gotham, he's only fighting the symptoms and not actually curing the disease that is crime and corruption. (This is a realization that the other batmen already knew as they were more experienced by the in universe timeline of their movies, but pattinsons batman is new at this thats why he kinda sucks at being the batman when it comes to certain things like how he missed that carpet tool clue at first, and how to be philanthropist billionaire Bruce wayne to hide his true life as the batman.) tom is right this batman is actually going through character development where as the other batmen movies he is already fully or mostly fully developed as the batman/ bruce wayne alter ego. I would love to see more pattinson batman movies so we can see him develop over the course of them but idk if they're doing that with the direction james gunn is taking the dcu, im pretty sure he even said Pattinson's batman is not his new DCU's batman

[@olivelong3965]

Tom the kind of guy to make an hour long video about Batman theory

[@KenLinx]

Ben's completely right about Batman 2022. They tried to make Batman's entire arc that he's bad for not helping people in broad daylight; and by the end of the movie, he does. They tried to shame him for beating up criminals in the dark of night. That is literally Batman's entire shtick. The movie doesn't understand Batman at all. He walks up to criminals and tanks gunfire point-blank like Ironman, instead of stealthily taking them down. And of course, because it's a 2022 movie, the white man running for mayor is the villain; and white characters like Catwoman and Commissioner Gordon had to be race-swapped. It's unbelievable that you're suggesting Ben's the one who's racist for pointing out that the studio _race-swapped_ characters. Can you just talk about the Bowblax or Dream/Tommyinnit stuff already?

[@oppenheimer6321]

It's funny that Ben says that Long Halloween is his favorite comic book while criticizing this movie for Batman not capturing the villain, not preventing any of the deaths, being an accomplice to an accidental death when all of this happens in Long Halloween. The real Holiday in Long Halloween escapes and Batman never even finds out who the real Holiday was, Batman doesn't prevent any of Holiday's victims and Batman knowingly takes Maroni away knowing that Holiday would attack him and most likely kill him as he ends up doing.

[@noah_r_anderson]

Tom’s opinion on this movie made me fall more in love with this channel.

[@Shades781]

Weird how Ben doesn't know how one of the most popular and influential Catwoman proformances was by a Black woman. Eartha Kitt.

[@drewbydoobydoo2918]

Her and fuckin Halle Berry (not a great movie, but that wasn't Halle's fault).

[@Lo0serx3]

i was gonna say Halle Berry, but that might be a generational thing

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

​@@Lo0serx3lol sure but also do you know how much the Halle Berry film is laughed at? Just Google the basketball scene and a tonne of people are ripping it apart. Personally I thought it was campy and fun (& played the PlayStation game loads) and have fond memories of that time. However it's widely considered like one of the worst films/performances in the live action Batman franchise.

[@henrylangham6428]

weird how NOOOO ONE knows about that. its irrelevant. eartha who? more like BIG BERTHA

[@Newsystuffs]

@@Lo0serx3 That one doesn't really count because: 1. Berry played a new character, making Catwoman a "legacy chaarcter", not Selena herself. 2. that movie was shit. I still don't know how it manages to get airplay on movie stations unless it's that cheap to air.

[@definitelynotyourmom42]

I mean, let's be real, for Ben to understand Bruce's arc in The Batman as going from being apathetic toward suffering people (compared to his active hatred for criminals) to feeling compassion and helping them, it'd require Ben to admit that helping people is a net social good that improves society, and I don't think his worldview allows for that.

[@Brittshow_AK]

Also, part of the idea of the villain and Batman being the same, is that it's not necessarily hard to cross the line between hero and villain, as evidenced in the moral ambiguity of surveilling all of Gotham like Bruce does in the Dark Knight

[@leesanction2068]

His recent Wicked review was actually really good

[@GavinWandersee]

“Not to go into nerd cringe” Goes into nerd cringe

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

Yes TomMovie lets go!

[@TorranceCam]

Holy snap that’s a pretty darn good impression. Also, what’s the name song that always starts these vids off?

[@QuinnsEye]

Tom in his EFAP arc. Great video, loved the passion and in depth analysis

[@3_character_minimum]

I genuinely couldnt be bothered with watching any more DC films... but Tom has got me curious.

[@goobyaluob]

The best thing about how Catwoman says that White Privileged Men run the city and are bad people is that not only is Batman himself proof that her views aren’t based in truth, but I bet deep down he’d love to throw in her face that he isn’t what she accuses him to be but he has to just turn the other cheek and allow her to say all these terrible things about him that aren’t true because protecting his identity is more important. It demonstrates the strength of his willpower and fortitude.

[@MarkProveau]

Totally agree... my biggest issue with the Dark Knight Trilogy is how grounded and realistic it tries to be. Gotham feels like a dull modern city, most of the villains, aside from Joker, are toned down to the point of being boring. Christian Bale's Batman is weak, his over-the-top growly voice, constant monologuing about hope and justice, and endless angst over Rachel come off as borderline parody. Batman is running and driving around the city in flat daytime lighting half the time, there's barely any atmosphere or style to any of it other than the fear toxin scenes in BB. The trilogy plays it way too safe, almost embarrassed by the over-the-top nature of Batman, and ends up feeling flat. Honestly, Heath Ledger’s Joker is basically the only reason I think people hold it in such high reguard.

[@stevestevenson1678]

"He doesn't donate to charity, he's a bad guy because he's white" No Ben, he's 'bad' because he just started being Batman, he hasn't started playing that double-life yet, he's still in his edgy phase before realizing he needs to be both Bruce Wayne AND Batman to help Gotham

[@thealexeitube]

Tom is so based, The Batman is far and away the most accurate depiction of batman ever. Not so much Bruce wayne as people know him but thats for the next movie

[@PepegoPrime]

My foot did a little tingle when I saw this

[@UserNameHere-yb5fu]

Sounds like early warning signs of diabetes you better hit the gym lil brah before they cut your foot off

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

I'm sorry Emma Watson is targeting you too.

[@pussydestructiondeathmetal]

FOOT STIMULATION!

[@creolo7]

The most offensive statement to me was him saying “this is a movie that hates Batman.” This is ‘The Batman’ not ‘Joker 2’ 🤓

[@jtoegi]

Finally someone said it!!!! I been thinking this so long!!!!!

[@dako91196]

One thing i wish you would have said is that not only is Catwoman wrong in her assumptions of Bruce, but Bruce is so rich that he could get away with whatever crime he wanted to commit, but he chooses not to

[@Nicknoramus]

Tom, you should look into Memphis, TN if you don't think there are any modern US cities not like Gotham.

[@eckienoxio5602]

43:03 makes it sound like he was worried about copyright or smthn lmao