Why Bennett Can NEVER Be Replaced (Genshin Impact Gameplay Design Analysis)

A video essay explaining why Bennett's strengths are so compatible with Genshin's combat mechanics to the point where he is going to be a top tier character probably forever.
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Intro: 0:00
Bennett’s Strengths: 1:20
Unnerfable (Indirectly Through Content): 2:31
Attack Buffing Abilities: 5:12
Xingqiu Being “Replaced: by Yelan: 7:35
The Implications of Being Irreplaceable: 8:43
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[@kaiser8773]

Friendly Reminder: All positives qualities of Bennett's kit are justified by his lore.

[@warduxe]

then what about Qiqi?

[@wugira76]

No one gives a fuck about the lore of another generic anime game, number 37 This games "lore" isnt the next AoT or Death Note, when it comes to storytelling, so please stop pretending that it is

[@Noahed_]

He literally fills in for every role on his adventure team.

[@cucumbercytus]

@@Noahed_ he is dps healer buffer battery. 4 in 1

[@mintaroum.9096]

@@warduxe welp, she's... dead? And she also witnessed quite a few death people, including her parents. So maybe she always wish she could revive people and give lifes to them, explain her overhealing kit and constellation.

[@silverhawkscape2677]

I don't think Bennett will be replaced. He's kit is so good that he'll always have a Role to play. Powercreep Bennett exist? Just use Bennett as the Second Buffer in Spiral Abyss.

[@aidanowo3146]

even if theres two bennett powercreep chars he will still have a role since other mechanics of his exist LMAO (sunfire jean,pyro battery)

[@frozenflava]

The main issue is if Bennett is powercreeped then those barely usable/decent characters will be going into the dumpster.

[@pyronado4320]

Even if we do get another Bennett, why not buff him even more with existing Bennett ?

[@rirururu4697]

@@aidanowo3146 Also even if we get two characters that powercreep bennett, why not put bennett in a team with them and get even more crazy attack buffs? I think the only way to properly powercreep bennett is if we get at least 6 characters better than him in every way.

[@aidanowo3146]

@@rirururu4697 i agree imagine if we get a pyro char with raiden energy regen as a skill with kokomi heal that also buffs atk as burst and it applies 2U pyro every tick? crazy stuf oh yea we need 6 char that does this like you said 💀💀💀

[@slimslimonstar8454]

Characters not relying on ATK stat for damage seems the way to go for getting Bennett out of the meta and having said characters being good.

[@rainischalk-late3540]

Bennett gives out ATK boost only, If more characters like Yelan exist aka new characters that rely on different stats for dmg.

[@rirururu4697]

That is true but a lot of these characters that scale with other stats still get their damage boosted by attack.

[@slimslimonstar8454]

@@rirururu4697 Current characters yes, future characters maybe.

[@rirururu4697]

@@rainischalk-late3540 I think for Bennett's attack buff to be completely useless on a character, then literally everything in their kit has to scale with another stat. As of now, yeah, no character like that exists. Even some of Yelan's kit like her charge shot scales off attack.

[@lrc3847]

The issue is that Bennett still is an excellent stat cleaner and a very good medic, the only things to phase him out is... giving to the enemies insta kill attacks and the players gets evasion in order to not to die. But it make definately kill the shielders in the process (and rendering Noelle totally useless as an example).

[@normal2410]

Fun fact: Bennett learned how to do damage,heal and buff because no one joined his team and needed to do everything alone

[@baquithemonkey5330]

Just wanted to further add that Bennett's burst circle being stationary, although it is one of its weaknesses, there's a thing called snapshot that basically throws that idea away. Xiangling being the most prevalent example of a character who couldn't cares less about staying in Bennett's circle

[@hatakekakashi3228]

Xingqiu be like

[@alexprus7953]

@@hatakekakashi3228 Xingqiu doesn't snapshot

[@liateapot2313]

Can someone explain snapshotting to me, I see people use but haven't figured it out 🤣

[@skitzkat1699]

@@liateapot2313 as explained above, if you're activating Xiangling burst inside Bennett's burst area, her burst damage doesn't decrease even if she's out of Bennett's burst area.

[@baquithemonkey5330]

@@liateapot2313 Snapshot is a mechanic in game that makes certain abilities (both skills and bursts) carry buffs during their entire duration. So if you pop Xiangling's burst on Bennett's burst, it would carry that attack buff for the entire duration of her pyronado. It doesn't matter if you step out of the circle. Beidou's and Ayato's bursts are two other examples of ultimates with this mechanic.

[@monsterdonutkid]

Bennett’s kit is kind of overtuned and I’m pretty sure it’s because the devs didn’t fully understand their own game mechanics in the beginning. If Bennett was released now, his ATK buff would be 70% or less of what it currently is, his C1 would be scrapped and replaced with something completely inconsequential, he would have at least 80 energy cost, his cooldowns would be at least 25% longer, and his ascension stat would be something contradictory to his main support utility like ATK%. He would still be a highly contested healer/buffer but more balanced relative to the current state of the game.

[@vergil9981]

is not overtuned... is just simple buffs... a character with overtuned kits have to much shit that they dont even use by exampli think if ayato e skill reduced hydro defense , heal him , and idk make a sandwitch for him bennet literally just slaps you with a pyro attack puts a healing and buffins circle in the ground ... thats it maybe his numbers are too big but then again that is not overtuned , neither overpower ... he isnt the best healer and thecnically he is the the most consistent atk buff thats it... and for really specific teams he gets replaced for other units then again removing him is no good either since everyone will slap something else in its place and its a pve game so

[@jeremiahsmith916]

If Benny were released post-2.0, his current C1 would be C6-locked, he’d be a rate-up only on banners of his “designated” 5*, and would be impossible to buy with starglitter. Easy scheme to artificially gut a strong 4* which was quickly perfected throughout Inazuma patches.

[@insertcoolnamelater9334]

Or just swap his C6 with his C1, making him an amazing Pyro support but not as universal.

[@azuarc]

@@vergil9981 Over. Tuned. Tuned too high. The knobs are turned up just a little too much. Has nothing to do with superfluous effects.

[@YayaFeiLong]

@@vergil9981 That's not what "overtuned" means my guy

[@Everdistance]

'if you created enemies that just continuously ran away from you, it would be unfun' you should have told them that before they made hydro specters

[@dreamingahopefuldream4439]

I've been grinding their materials again for Shinobu and I feel utter pain while fighting them. They are such a headache to deal with.

[@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58]

Ranged mains: I missed the part where it's my problem

[@_rueless]

I swear Azhdaha is easier to kill that these stupid specters because he doesn't run away from you every 2 seconds and he doesn't heal

[@everydaynabil1937]

i made physical fischl team JUST to farm spectre

[@RKerns]

@@xxx_lolidestroyer69_xxxuwu58 when your main bow user is Childe :,)

[@oscarthedog7538]

Although he isn’t being fully replaced, Hoyoverse is slowly phasing him out of specific team comps or making characters that are niche, but work so much better in their niche- eg: Gorou being overall better in Geo teams, especially with constellations- Sara being the same with Electro teams and Shenhe (although being a 5 star) with Cryo teams. Sure they only really work the best in these specific teams, the thing is that you only *need* 2 teams for Abyss, so Bennet doesn’t end up being used.

[@lupinusaria2316]

Well I've been clearing abyss resets without Bennett on both teams. Even tho he's fully stacked. c5, double crowned, Aquila fav.

[@amirulazizol844]

I agree but Bennett is so universally powerful that he still provides a pretty good buff, while also healing which the characters you mentioned don't. Sara is straight up worse than Bennett unless she's C6, in which she's a bit better for electro characters. Still, you would use both for something like a Raiden hypercarry team. Gorou's buff is stronger than Bennett in geo teams but it's still pretty good to have both Bennett as the 4th slot in an Itto/Noelle team. You're right about Shenhe, but that's not really because her buff is stronger than Bennett (though of course it's partially why), it's more because Bennett's pyro element isn't desired in freeze teams.

[@__Newones]

Agree, the team that bennet cannot be replace is for pyro carry except hutao for now. And at that time everyone will be using his c6

[@oscarthedog7538]

@@amirulazizol844 as someone who got c6 Sara on the first Raiden banner, I kinda forgot how much stronger Bennet is without her c6.😅 But with Geo teams, mainly Itto and Noelle, it is usually preferred to run the main Dps along with Zhongli, Gorou and Albedo, bc of the energy requirements being lessened with 4 geo members, and Itto and c6 Noelles lack of need for that much extra atk, so the extra dmg from someone like Albedo is much more valuable than the diminishing atk buff. But if you dont have one of those characters, as Zhongli and Albedo are 5 stars, Bennet is still really valuable.

[@shablagoo682]

You use Sara with Bennett, and Cryo teams use Freeze so you don't use Bennett. It isn't that he being phased out. He is just on the otherside because you need to think of the other team in abyss that is strong enough to match him.

[@leojustice3367]

It's not just his atk boost and healing. He has so many small things going for him. From being the best and really only pyro battery, to constantly applying pyro to yourself thus cleansing and giving you access to Sunfire with Jean, to the fact that he actually deals pretty good damage if you build him for it in the right team. It's amazing the amount of things they missed while building him

[@daydreamer9469]

The problem with Pyro battery though is that the ones that do generate energy easily excluding Bennett are the main DPSes (Diluc & Hu Tao, idk about Klee & Yoimiya) Edit: Klee is basically Pyro Raiden Shogun with constellations so yeah

[@curiouslymirroring]

his elemental skill even applies 2GU pyro for no reason

[@huehue-kk2zj]

my benett is c6 and using mistplitter... unlike other conventional benett c5, i would say he is a type of dps+self sustain+generator... burst give him more atk, healing and reduce elemental skill cooldown which make him able to spam elemental skill 2x faster for damage and regen energy faster so u can spam burst again and again...

[@leojustice3367]

@@daydreamer9469 klee can be support but only with constellations. The other "support" would be Yanfei, but she's a shieldbot and needs a battery herself.

[@daydreamer9469]

@@leojustice3367 while they can, they don't count. Their kit is catered towards dealing damage so they're still main DPSes.

[@PurplexxInuxBokuSS]

2:54 Venti also has energy refund passive which is highly overlooked, not just the VV shred. Having more energy for the DPS means more bursts, which leads to more damage.

[@Jin-lp5lt]

Not if they have proper artifacts or don't have energy issues to begin with. It's also kinda annoying to rely on cause it only refills Venti's energy and characters of the element you absorb.

[@frozenflava]

I see alot of people saying yelan exists....the reason why she can't scale off attack is EXACTLY because of Bennett, any character with those scalings would be busted if they can benefit from him. Mihoyo releasing pure HP(and afterwards pure DEF) scaling characters is not just because it brings about more team comps but because anyone too compatible with Bennett will further push the contents of the game to be more difficult.

[@rirururu4697]

I'd love it if they released an HP version of Bennett like how Gorou is a Defense version of Bennett. Even so, Gorou's buff scalings and healing are no where near as crazy as Bennett's. Hoyo has learned to make characters like Bennett a lot more balanced so any character like him that's released in the future will probably be just that.

[@Xnoirel]

@@rirururu4697 Gorou's geo buff is actually pretty busted, lol. Granted, his def buffing is not as crazy as Benny's atk buff, but with conditions fulfilled, he buffs Geo dmg, just like Benny's C6 (minus the infusion). Then with his C6, he buffs buttload of Geo critdmg, mitigating his less-than-Benny def buff. Oh yeah, not to mention his C4, which heals every 1.5secs. Gear him up with healing circlet and HP artifacts, along with favonius bow, he's a decent healer and battery too.

[@rirururu4697]

@@Xnoirel Oh Yeah. I'm not saying Gorou is bad. He's really good. I'm just saying it's unlikely we'll get a busted buffer like Bennett ever again since hoyo had the chance to make one with Gorou but chose to balance him instead-- which isn't a bad thing.

[@Xnoirel]

@@rirururu4697 Agreed. One reason why Benny's so busted is because of his universality. We don't really need another busted support whose also good with everyone, lol.

[@insertcoolnamelater9334]

I don't think it's just Bennett, I think it's to address the criticism on artifacts. Different scaling makes artifact farming less painful. I already had lots of good HP artifacts just lying around.

[@rirururu4697]

Keep in mind that Gorou is a Defense version of Bennett but Gorou's buff scalings and healing are no where near as crazy as Bennett's. Hoyo has learned to make characters like Bennett a lot more balanced so any character like him that's released in the future (let's say an HP Bennett for example) will probably be just like Gorou-- so no where near as game breaking.

[@vergil9981]

actually you are wrong ... gorou for geo team gives more dmg than bennet with less investment, healing its meh but even then on a 3 geo team you get so many cristalize that you rearely take hp dmg

[@tiredasexual_8334]

@@vergil9981 -you'd never want to use Gorou in any team other than mono geo, so how are you gonna consistently generate crystalize shields? that's the fun part. you cant. - I agree Gorou is a low investment - high performance character. but guess what? so is bennett. give him a cr circlet, an er sands, and a 4 star 4 pc noblesse set and he's good to go. The only difference is that bennett rather needs hp/pyro dmg on his goblet, unlike gorou where you want def. - Gorou only works well with 2 main dps, and 2 support characters. he's extremely niche. while bennett may under-perform compared to gorou in those specific niches, he works amazingly in every other comps that gorou can only dream of being able to achieve. (P.S. Gorou only needs 2 extra Geo Characters so you can slap them both in the same team if you wanted to) - Gorou heals so miniscule a ningguang with r2 prototype amber could heal more consistently smh. But this isnt a Gorou hate space. Gorou opens up bennett's spot for a second slot in the abyss, giving more flexability in your teams. he may cant deal the same amount of damage bennett can, but the two dps' he supports are more than enough to bonk across the battle field. TLDR: Gorou good but Bennett is Overall still Better. Both are still Best bois tho.

[@kison7715]

also you need Gorou full cons for a full support potential. funny enough as it's the opposite of Bennett when people dont want his full cons

[@vergil9981]

@@kison7715 in calcs a c5 bennet full invested with aquila favonia gives 26% dmg increase to itto a c0 gorou with low investment gives 19% and a c6 gorou jumps from 19 to 40% almost doubling a max invesment bennet and like i said its a c5 bennet with aquila and lvl 13 burst ... if you have something like rancor and c3 or c1 bennet .... well your gorou with some random ass defense pieces gives more dmg ... also mono geo teams still generate crystilize from time to time and if you have zhongli you have a permanent shield pd: even then just beacuse gorou gives energy particles to supply the rotation better for itto.... it gives more dps on the long run , and gives defense boost, his buff has larger area than bennet or follows itto around, so literally there is 0 reason to not use gorou outside of you dont having him in the first place

[@kison7715]

@@vergil9981 first. i have no itto second. my gorou is c0 third. how can you do a crystallization with mono geo?

[@angelicanosoul2679]

"Yelan supposedly replacing Xingqiu" First the hair. Then the job.

[@Randomperson-en5sh]

so its kinda like Azure Empyrea from honkai where she is the most universal buffer (and one of the best) but as the game progress more and more supports that are element specific do things so cant she has slowly been being phased out

[@Astralfox528]

Yup besides fire because who is gonna replace her in a fire comp

[@forcefulstorm6187]

@@Astralfox528 pardo lmao

[@Randomperson-en5sh]

who knos a new niche fire dps may drop

[@arcallium]

Maybe a premium ignite support

[@BNuts]

@@Astralfox528 VILL-V is thinking of something.

[@apleb7605]

Designing Bennett’s kit was a huge mistake on Hoyoverse part and I think is one of the reasons why the recent 4 stars are either super niche or underpowered.

[@adam.n-steve]

It's obvious that Bennett, Xingqiu, Xiangling and Fischl were mainly made to be cool and interesting. They didn't care about game balancing since there's nothing to compare to. They now have to face this problem cuz Bennett and others are 4 stars characters. Ppl compares to newer 5 stars unit with someone like Bennett or Fischl and also op 4 stars units cause unrealistically high expectations of newer characters.

[@apleb7605]

@MishimaMist In terms of Chara design and personality? I guess so.

[@apleb7605]

@MishimaMist I call cap.

[@michapiasta3072]

@MishimaMist kuki doesnt have. A 1k atk buff Best energy generetion of respective element Pyro aura Ability to melt shields with td Pyro infusion Bennet its just to op for kuki to compete.

[@michapiasta3072]

@MishimaMist 1. why being dude is a con, isnt that sexist? 2. 70% is enough to be comfortable. 3. it only means that you doesnt have to build him atk from artifacts. And 1k+ its still true. You are very delusional here.

[@Hlebuw3k]

6:08 you are missing Shenhe from this chart, although she is only for cryo, her damage boosting is for cryo only, it can be better than bennet

[@boba8424]

There was a video I watched which said, "For better or for worse, the entire game is balanced around Bennett's existence." or something around those lines. I believe it was from IWinToLoseGaming. And a comment under it had said 'It was one of the most rawest lines one can say about something.' I'll say this. I started using Bennett without knowing that he was such a busted character, it was all because of his hangout event I did. Before that he was sitting at level 1 at the back. Turns out he is one of the, if not the best, character in the game. He buffs, heals, provides particles (I main Diluc), resonance and so much more. I ended up crowning his burst and giving him the Aquila Favonia. Nowadays, his playstyle has gotten a bit boring for me. I still use him to clear abyss because there is no way I would be able to without him, but besides that, I'm trying to use different team comps to make it more interesting. Like Yun Jin with Diluc and Ayaka etc. So, my point is, while I might experiment here and there with different characters because I got bored of Bennett's playstyle, at the end of the day I still go back to him if I need to clear the challenging part of the game aka Spiral Abyss. (I know some people will say they cleared abyss without Bennett, but I am an f2p who hasn't built much characters cause it's tiring. I just want to enjoy the game and get as many rewards from the events as I can.)

[@the7observer]

I don't think this is true. With Yelan release (damage scales based on HP). I can already see to many new characters scaling solely with non ATK stats (DEF, HP, EM, etc...) and each 5 star having it's own "bennet" (like gorou and Itto)

[@poppiexy]

hmm national team exists.. which is still broken compared to the recent characters' new team comps. so i disagree, but we'll see in the future. i just think that bennett being a pyro unit, buffer and healer is just too op to be powercrept.

[@the7observer]

@@poppiexy yeah right now Bennet can't be replaced. But with Yelan it kinda hints Mihoyo may start introducing characters that don't benefit from bennet ATK boost

[@poppiexy]

@@the7observer yeah and with dendro coming out... bennett may or may not be less relevant

[@maraisfan4life517]

@@poppiexy why

[@poppiexy]

@@maraisfan4life517 cause we might burn ourselves because pyro and dendro not good. just a thought

[@RedFlaim]

reuploaded because I did multiple oopsies on editing :D

[@stevem.9340]

I remembered the black screen was there.

[@julien8853]

I’ve been maining Bennet since basically day one. I got him with the free standard banner 10 pull you get at the beginning of the game, and started building him like mad just because I wanted a “fire sword character.” He’s currently at lvl 90 and my team’s main DPS, main support, and main healer. I have emotional attachment to this Bennett.

[@bluezebra6701]

Maybe not replaced but I see him becoming less relevant. With how common characters who scale off of different stats are, plus dedicated attack supports, plus the new intensified reaction which seems like a massive attack boost for Dendro/Electro if leaks are to be believed.

[@imbtt39]

less relevant in terms of what though? in term of spiral abyss and other battle related event, he will still be a relevant unit as long as the team that requires him (national for example) still usable to beat it.

[@bluezebra6701]

@@imbtt39 Less relevant as in less teams will use him.

[@mintaroum.9096]

I think the dendro update wont help tho, his burst is like being made for the burning reaction.

[@timuito243]

you've never seen pyro x dendro reaction in game? Those dendro samachurls already gave us a taste of it. Dendro will only make pyro, and specifically Bennett more busted lol

[@betulla96]

@@mintaroum.9096 His burst constantly applies pyro to your character though, not to enemies. So against dendro enemies, as soon as you get hit you're gonna be burning, and burning damage is quite huge. A potentially very annoying scenario if Bennett can't heal it. It would be another opportunity to make him less universal.

[@4katcat]

One down side to Bennett's burst pyro application on the character. It can already cause problems with electro enemy and some environment where you can get easily overloaded. It would be a way they could nerf him. Remember Burning is a thing. Once we get sumeru and more poweful dendro enemy are introduced, it could be srisky to stay in Benny burst. Imagine they put both an electro and dendro enemy together, ouch. 😂 Edit: I want to add to that technically, Barbara has a cleanse too, lol. She applies Hydro and removes pyro and burning from the character. You would hardly think of it was a cleanse though because being affected by hydro is, in most cases, more of a liability rather than a perk. Who knows. Maybe in the future it's gonna be reversed.

[@frozenflava]

Shielders says hi, and Bennett's pyro application is more of an upside than downside, there's so few characters that can cleanse you(Jean/Bennett), even fewer efficiently (Barbara). With Jean he even gets access to sunfire, I would gladly take that downside over losing so much unique abilities.

[@4katcat]

@@frozenflava sure I though or that. But forcing a shielder with him would lock 1 of your choice of teammate for him. Right now many of is comp don't include one. Rational could not be use in the way it is. Not only that but you would need cray up time on that shield which not many can provide. And if you happen to be off in your rotation by a bit and stand in fantastic voyage while not shielded by accident, it could cost you. That depends on how punishing they make the new reactions/mechanics though. Those inconvenient are enough to make players choose other options that are considered less beneficial than Bennett in most circumstances.

[@frozenflava]

@@4katcat Raiden has infinite poise, paired with Bennett's healing no reaction damage on them is going to be significant

[@4katcat]

@@frozenflava I'm not so sure Bennett's healing is going to be enough to be comfortable. Remember, burning work like electro-charged, the character is affected by both element at once and it makes the pyro aura more persistent. If you're attacked by electro in that state you'd get both overloaded and the other reaction between dendro and electro at the same time. Also, Raiden might have infinite poise but all other party member don't. When it's time to generate energy, it might not besafe. (It already isn't completely safe but it could become way worse in the future ) Edit: I don't mean to say he is gonna be unusable, but that it might encourage player to look at other option more

[@cjwat1118]

@@frozenflava Unless she gets hit by 5-6 hydro attacks in a row since that's 5-6 vapes.

[@alport1331]

As long as characters needs ATK to buff their DMG and doesn't bothered being healed, he'll be good inclusion to that character's team. And he's too versatile of a unit that he's just a good fit to most of the characters available. The only situation where Bennett would be useless if Hoyo decides to make a strong enemy with an AI that is programmed to reposition itself if an AOE is casted within their range.

[@coffeemug1012]

Fun fact Bennett also has some of the best single target damage in the game along with the highest energy particle generation as well as being the only character to be able to effectively use forward melt

[@michapiasta3072]

Its crazy how much roles can he perform -main healer -atk buffer -pyro cleanser and aura provider(sunfire combo) -melt dps -normal dps -thundering fury shield melter -battery -pyro infusion If he was lucky enough to have consistent job, he would pay your taxes.

[@krispiek4084]

I know an argument is that if HYV can make a "better XIngqiu" with Yelan then they can make a "better Bennett" eventually. However, I really think Bennett is just drastically on a whole other level and if they made a Yelan equivalent that would actually be a really bad move for the overall longevity of the game. One thing I appreciate is that HYV is consciously trying to avoid powercreeping but I really do think making Yelan's kit so similar to Xingqiu was a bad idea and if they did something similar to Bennett that would actively work against what they've been trying to do in rebalancing the meta. I do think it's a good idea by making "electro Bennett" or "geo Bennett" with Sara and Gorou respectively because they aren't as widely universal as Bennett but still provide great support and utility.

[@poppiexy]

funny thing is yelan isn't even better than xingqiu. she has higher scalings being a five star, but she doesn't provide the utility xq does. i think yelan is a solid character but a luxury pull definitely. she won't bring that much into ur account, compared to og units like xq and bennett. im actually glad about how hyv balance characters in terms of power. diluc, keqing and xiao are really the only ones powercrept rn. old units are still very strong, hu tao, ganyu, xl, childe and etc. after the release of raiden, ayaka and kazuha, hyv has only been making niche 4 stars and solid 5 stars but yk doesn't really break the game. so balance as it should be :) but then again, with dendro coming soon...

[@marka112]

Except you forgot where they made a shielder have a 101% uptime shield that can withstand all dmg... and so the game is already broken... they got shit from fans and they broke all logic in the game to please them by overbuffing powercreeping zhong. If it making the pyro archon a 5 star bennet support means more money, they will do it. And then later down the line, add things like hp bleeding for zhong, er sucking enemies for raiden and non cc enemies for venti... they will add something to try balance the 5 star bennet, after making it way over powered and overtuned just to make the quick bucks

[@michapiasta3072]

Stupid thing is, the other buffers need high constelations to be better than c1 bennet in their respective niches. And even for sara who was made to be raiden personal support, she is still not a part of best raidens team(raidenational)

[@universalspaceexpeditioner8259]

@@marka112 I will stop you right there. The Pyro Archon is not going to be a support, the Fontaine Archon will be the last Archon who is a support like the previous 4. Murata Himeko like in all her models in Honkai, is going to be a MAIN DPS, that will far surpass anyone before her. She will need a dedicated 5 star pyro support just for her and Benett isn't gonna make it, so the support for Murata will be much much better than C6 Benet. Then Tsaritsa will come out and same story, she will be the best main DPS in the game, she will also need a cryo support. Maybe Shenhe will synergize greatly with her. Murata is literally the Goddess of War in lore, she ain't gonna be a support.

[@amandaslough125]

@@universalspaceexpeditioner8259 Your entire point is great. Just one fix. The pyro archon is from Natlan. Fontaine is the hydro archon of judgment (and probably a healer).

[@pyronado4320]

We are close to dendro patch and whether burning from his burst becomes a curse or boon only time will tell.

[@tobnuki]

i legit only used bennett because i just love characters with bandages and his bad luck was pretty relatable to me lmaO- so even if he's replaced, he'll always stay on my team :]

[@ray-ee5pb]

Great video! You talked about some of his downsides, but I would like to mention a few that you didn’t, which do impact me when I play with Bennett, and could even be targeted to decrease his viability in the future. First off, he only heals the active character. Now, that might not seem like a huge issue, but it has caused some pain and a few character deaths in the Spiral Abyss for me, especially with certain new mechanics like corrosion. The problem is that all of my party is losing hp, but only one of them is getting healed, unless I purposefully swap to them and wait a few seconds, which is weird and annoying to do. Another problem is that certain characters have too much HP to make this strategy practical, like my Zhongli with 55k HP. Corrosion drains a percentage of his HP, which can’t be quickly healed back by my Bennett. Then, in the time it takes to hold his skill, Zhongli dies from corrosion. In this regard, more effects that drain from off-field characters could actually nerf Bennett, since a lot of other healers can heal off-field characters. Kuki Shinobu, Diona, and Bennett are the only healers who can’t. Secondly, Bennett’s ATK buff from his burst only applies to the active character. This means that off-field characters who don’t snapshot won’t have access to the buff, although they can still benefit from 4p Noblesse Oblige and pyro resonance. For example, Yae Miko’s skill does not snapshot, so they won’t benefit from the buff from Bennett’s burst unless she’s on the field, which she usually won’t be. By making future characters have off-field damaging abilities that don’t snapshot, Bennett‘s viability with those characters decreases. Thirdly, Bennett buffs ATK, and not all characters scale off of ATK. You mentioned this in the video, but I think it could be a bigger problem in the future for Bennett lovers. Yelan, for example, won’t benefit from Bennett’s buff, but she will benefit from Sucrose’s or Kazuha’s buffs, which could mean running them instead of Bennett. There might even be a future pyro character who buffs dmg bonus similarly to how Bennett buffs ATK, which could make them more viable in certain teams that Bennett. This won’t necessarily make him less broken with current characters, but who knows? Maybe a really powerful character who doesn’t scale off of ATK will come along, and work really well in a team with Yelan and Albedo, making an anti-Bennett team, haha! Fourthly, Bennett only heals in a small AOE. You mentioned this in the video, but I don’t think you put enough importance on it. Again, I’ll bring up corrosion, since Rifthounds are a good example of something that makes me want to swap Bennett out for Barbara. Rifthounds move around a lot and teleport all over the place, making it harder to hit them with Bennett’s skill to regenerate energy. My Bennett has well over 200% er, so that isn’t the issue. It’s the enemies. On top of that, once I get his burst up and use it, assuming I’m not dead from corrosion, the Rifthounds fly out of my range. My Yoimiya’s range. When that happens, my only options are to sit and wait for the Rifthounds to come back, or to run out of Bennett’s circle and risk dying from corrosion. The worst part is that this is isn’t just with Rifthounds. Having to run out of Bennett’s AOE happens with a lot of enemies, especially with certain teams that deal a lot of stagger damage. Small Geovishaps, Whopperflowers, Apecters, and a lot of bosses like to move out of range. Large Geovishaps and smaller enemies get knocked back easily by certain reactions and certain attacks, which sends me chasing after them and out of Bennett’s AOE. However, that doesn’t necessarily make them annoying to fight in general, it just makes them more annoying to fight with Bennett and other circle impact characters. There’s also Treasure Hoarders, who usually spawn far away from each other in the Spiral Abyss, which also isn’t annoying in and of itself, but can become annoying when I’m using Bennett. This came out a bit longer than I expected, but thanks for reading it! Again, your video is great! No hate to it, you brought up some pretty good points! Have a nice day! :D

[@HoloUniversee]

I have a hunch that the pyro archon Murata is going to be similar to Bennett when it comes to her kit, with added extra dps capabilities in constellations, though no healing. Raiden Shogun is also built like that, with energy recharge support that can become a dps with constellations.

[@doplop]

i mean raiden is still a really good dps with no cons too. pyro is kinda like THE dps element tho so i would be surprised if murata is a support

[@meowraiu2]

babe wake up new redflaim video essay dropped 😍😍

[@Panda-24]

A whole year later I still don't have Bennett. I'm getting jealous.

[@jeeshwaa3215]

That's so unfortunate

[@yk_903]

I had the same problem, i started genshin in early 2.0 and finally got my bennet on yoimiya banner now.

[@DisappointedAether]

Bennett is unironically why i stay with Jp voice. His iconic BoUKeN dA BouKeN always brighten my day

[@Airitzu]

Wow. This is such an important video I needed to understand more about a character I don’t have ;0;

[@Delta_N0VA]

0:55 had a really clean transition

[@chrissummers4584]

why not make a enemy that consistently drags you around the battlefield every few seconds? that way bursts that only stay in one place will be less usable. or a enemy that if affected by pyro has some kind of mechanic that punishes the player.

[@Linh_Tran-49]

I mean, ranged characters or burst characters wont be affected by that We already have Maguu Kenki that moves around alot, But having enemies that moves around all the time and/or punishes pyro will affect a lot of characters, from timed dps like Xiao Itto Raiden, to pyro dps like Xiangling Yoimiya Hutao Reminder, just to neglect one 4-star character

[@_rueless]

If they do that I can see more cons that pros, pyro character sales will drop drastically due to the "pyro punishment" and a lot of people who invested time in a lot of Pyro dps might end up quitting due to the frustration of being punished for using a certain element. And the idea of an enemy that drags people around would just make the game way less enjoyable.. Bennett is a 4* character, by doing what you suggest would not only succeed in ruining the game but it would also drag down countless of units and future characters with him, I don't think it's worth it.

[@frozenflava]

For the first idea, use snapshotting teams like xiangling fischl beidou. For the second, there's shielders like zhongli diona and if they can't block the said debuff, I'm gonna say this just isn't good or interesting game design as it's specifically directed at ONE character.

[@AevyCh]

The whole design of Specters is to completely invalidate the use of Bennett. Specters will enter fury mode if attacked with massive ticks (any singular damage beyond 10,000) and Bennett's buff will always make your team dealing too much damage. Each types of Specters have different abilities when enraged: Hydro - 50% heal to ALL enemies upon death Geo - Deals absurd damage upon death Anemo - Creates a vacuum that continuously applies anemo upon death Cryo - Creates a cryo mist that lasts forever upon death Pyro - Explodes multiple times with inconsistent interval upon death Electro - Currently unknown (They never spawn naturally in overworld & their special ability is deactivated during all events.) They also have a very high amount of HP pool in order to sustain a little longer & benefit the enraged buff while they're still alive (lower skill cd, meaning that they cant initiate attacks a lot more frequently). However, since most players hate Specters (because nobody even bother to learn their attack pattern) the devs intentionally remove them from most Spiral Abyss & disables their enraged abilities during time limited events.

[@ThatLetterK]

That sounds like the most unfun mechanic possible. If there’s anything that’s never fun to go against is stun or interruption mechanics. Plus that would punish a good chunk of characters that either hand hurts that have lingering directions or bursts that travel in a single direction.

[@natpraweepatayawit6212]

I don’t think Bennett can be replaced in term of character, but may be in team comp, who know they may pull utilities of Xingqiu into a new pyro healer character X and make new pair of Yelan+X instead of Xingqiu+Bennett. It did happen to Diona+Mona by Shenhe+Kokomi.

[@elknolasshrineofraja3966]

🌸😼I would utter on a personal note however, I do not play Bennett and he is largely benched. Genshin is not so hard that one is required to deal peek damage at all times. One only needs to deal enough damage to get the job done within a reasonable amount, thus I specifically build comps that do not require his talents. To be honest one can conquer the game’s content with any setup they wish😼🌸

[@speltspirit]

Kudos to you for aiming for creativity. I mainly play with him because I don’t have very many other healers and he synergizes well with some of my more casual, fun-to-play comps (Kazuha and Bennett together are just so nice, even if they don’t really do quite as much damage per hit as a properly raised dps). It’s up to you whether or not to raise and use him, and it is cool to see people who’ve decided to challenge themselves to come up with strong comps that don’t require his unique utility.

[@AevyCh]

The whole design of Specters is to completely invalidate the use of Bennett. Specters will enter fury mode if attacked with massive ticks (any singular damage beyond 10,000) and Bennett's buff will always make your team dealing too much damage. Each types of Specters have different abilities when enraged: Hydro - 50% heal to ALL enemies upon death Geo - Deals absurd damage upon death Anemo - Creates a vacuum that continuously applies anemo upon death Cryo - Creates a cryo mist that lasts forever upon death Pyro - Explodes multiple times with inconsistent interval upon death Electro - Currently unknown (They never spawn naturally in overworld & their special ability is deactivated during all events.) They also have a very high amount of HP pool in order to sustain a little longer & benefit the enraged buff while they're still alive (lower skill cd, meaning that they cant initiate attacks a lot more frequently). However, since most players hate Specters (because nobody even bother to learn their attack pattern) the devs intentionally remove them from most Spiral Abyss & disables their enraged abilities during time limited events.

[@Alatris]

Specters don't invalidate bennet? No one gives a fuck about specters entering fury mode, it's generally just that they're hard to hit. Additionally, the VAST majority of characters that are able to deal above 10k in a single hit (which is a lot) can generally hit higher than that without bennet. 10k is not much damage if you have a moderately well built character

[@ChikyuuKun]

That list.... just completely validates the use of Bennett even more. Deal damage upon death? Bennett Q: heal.

[@AevyCh]

@@Alatris Yes, that's the point. 1. The bigger the damage, the faster it will enter fury mode (50k = instant fury... 10k x 5 is better than a nuke when fighting specters) 2. Specters are very light yet can't be sucked by CC skills, making them very vulnerable to knock back effect thus making you unable to deal a even single blow. If they are not knocked, they will also fly away to avoid your next attack. 3. Bennetts Pyro infusion will interrupts their position especially if you're using Electro characters (overloads). EXTRA:- Unlike Slimes, Specters do not infuse themselves with their respective elements despite their uncanny design similarity. For example, if you want to freeze a Hydro Specter, you'd need to apply both Hydro & Cryo yourself (even if they're immune to their respective elements)

[@AevyCh]

@@ChikyuuKun They don't just deal damage upon death, the after effects are what you need to take note of, especially Anemo (and probably Electro) Specters. They will constantly swirl yourself (and probably overloads) as long as you stay in Bennett's burst. Unlike players, enemies do not have ICD for applying element, meaning that you will be swirled every single tick (underestimating the swirl damage is the same as ignoring the burning effect on yourself, even worse if there are multiple of them). It would be very difficult to escape the vacuum once you are inside its area of effect. Trying to do so usually just drains your stamina.

[@phoenixlau]

Nobody cares about specter attack patterns or fury mode, lol. It's the fact that they constantly wander off to Narnia instead of fighting that annoys people. Even worse in the overworld since you can't follow them on their smoke break off a cliff or into the water.

[@lolk7726]

cool video!

[@Yoshimitsuzero]

There's been attempts to counter Bennett that the game introduce after 2.0. Bosses and regular enemies tend to move from places to places alot and don't stay stationary in one place as often. I remember the Genshin community was complaining about enemies moving around too much at one patch. Specters, Nobushi, and Thunder Manifestation are examples. I've always thought this was to counter easy ABCs combos like Bennett.

[@speltspirit]

Characters who snapshot their bursts can circumvent this, so the utility isn't entirely lost. It's also that enemies like that would need to stay in one spot at some point, otherwise the player simply wouldn't be able to hit them. It'd be easy enough to time it right and maximize the time you can make use of his attack buff. The best way to lower his utility without outright making him useless would be to release characters that scale with non-ATK stats. That way, he'd no longer be able to support those characters, but he'd still have a place in his staple comps like rational and national

[@DamslettesSIMP]

They can't move if they're already dead :)

[@scsysnake7529]

a reminder regarding the Venn diagram representing buffs, kujou Sara buffs with burst too along with her e

[@Seichensi]

Even if they release better character, it will most likely be a 5-star. Which means Bennet will still have upper hand. But if that character will be good/better even without constellations... you will likely able to make one (or two) really strong, if not broken team/s.

[@mcgamerson8043]

Venti's and Zhongli's dominance was diminished through the releasing of new enemies which mitigatef their strengths (kairagi & nobushi and corrosion) so a possible way too mitigate Bennetts dominance could be to release something that targets Bennet's strength. OK hear me out. A monster with a leech passive that can "Utilize the buffs and healing provided by friendly field effects" (aka fantastic voyage) specifically fields created by abilities so that would include fantastic voyage, Jean burst, Diona burst, EM buff from C2 Kazuha, normal dmg bonus from Ayato burst, etc. etc. While this does not solely target Bennet, I would imagine Bennet would be the most dangerous character to run against such an enemy given how strong his buffs and healing can become.

[@AevyCh]

The whole design of Specters is to completely invalidate the use of Bennett. Specters will enter fury mode if attacked with massive ticks (any singular damage beyond 10,000) and Bennett's buff will always make your team dealing too much damage. Each types of Specters have different abilities when enraged: Hydro - 50% heal to ALL enemies upon death Geo - Deals absurd damage upon death Anemo - Creates a vacuum that continuously applies anemo upon death Cryo - Creates a cryo mist that lasts forever upon death Pyro - Explodes multiple times with inconsistent interval upon death Electro - Currently unknown (They never spawn naturally in overworld & their special ability is deactivated during all events.) They also have a very high amount of HP pool in order to sustain a little longer & benefit the enraged buff while they're still alive (lower skill cd, meaning that they cant initiate attacks a lot more frequently). Each elements have unique abilities. The first three are the ones that you need to keep your eyes on the most while fighting: •Hydro - Heals enemies that are hit by its attacks •Pyro - Continuously teleport with an i-frame of around 1 second. •Cryo - Launches homing icicles that follows you for roughly 5 seconds Electro - Dashes inwards to deal electro damage on all of its path, making them very difficult to manage. They also have a secondary attack but I forgot (there is barely any footage of Electro Specters that is still around) Anemo - Deals anemo damage, can cause continuous swirl (players have no ICD so enemies can abuse reaction on them) Gel - Throws rock, the most useless ability if I do say so myself. They cant even create shields for themselves. The last & final obstacle to be dealt while fighting Specters is the fact that they don't infuse themselves with their respective elements unlike slimes; meaning that you need to apply Hydro on Hydro Specters (even if they're immune to the damage) in order to trigger any sorts of reactions (Electro-charged, Vaporized, Freeze) However, since most players hate Specters (because nobody even bother to learn their attack pattern) the devs intentionally remove them from every recent Spiral Abyss & disables their enraged abilities during time limited events.

[@speltspirit]

@@AevyCh not really? Specters are annoying, but their design isn’t trying to target Bennett specifically. Honestly, any well-built dps would end up triggering their fury status with or without Bennett, so you can’t really say that hyv was trying specifically to counter the use of Bennett. Even if they were, it’s not smth I’d even bother worrying about, bc fury or no fury, they’ll still die quicker the more damage you do and Bennett’s attack buff helps more than it harms, in any case.

[@rororin_mochikoko1533]

@@AevyCh my dps already trigger the fury state of those spectres anyway, might as well add some bennett buff lol

[@proles8]

@@AevyCh Spectres counter melee in general, not just bennett

[@fredthewreckyt]

one other thing that can go unnoticed is that alongside just using VV against heavy enemies, venti also still provides 15 flat energy to party members of the element his burst infuses with. Albeit difficult at times to consistently infuse, the use of self application of elements with Bennett or Diona can help.

[@rellygudgamr3375]

Unless they add more characters who completely scales off of hp like yelan, Bennet is gonna be busted

[@yuuzelthyc9683]

if a "benny 2.0" does get released then spiral abyss will become spiral park

[@Internextion]

i mean it already is lmao

[@CosmoJZ]

I could see a workaround, which would be to provide more atk from, say, artifacts, in order to trivialize the amount given by Bennett's ult. Increase the atk% values, release new sets or raise the level cap idk but that seems feasible.

[@sativaoryza8648]

note that even after your char are out of benet's Q circle it still buffs them for few seconds (1-2) forgot the exact number, so essentially benet's Q duration have 1 sec downtime or about more than 90% uptime

[@epicazeroth]

Ok you have no idea how much trouble that one tower battle puzzle gave me. I failed like 5 times and had to go farm to get past it.

[@kamisatoayaka833]

It's not that he'll be replaced, it's just that the game is trying to find ways to diminish his power in team comps. Hu Tao & Itto not being able to use ATK too well, Shenhe & Yae not snapshotting, Ayato having part of his damage scale off HP (although he still does benefit from Bennett fairly well), and Yelan having a 100% HP scaling kit

[@Flakii]

arguably if hu tao has no burst up, you can use bennett to buff her dmg and itto still benefits from bennett buffing quite well if you don't have gorou

[@niajoby4973]

@@Flakii Hu Tao loses her A4 pyro bonus with Bennett, plus atk doesn't make a real difference for her

[@nadaaqui7407]

@@Flakii He can buff them but its just atk isnt the best choice for them...

[@Jdogrey1]

Him: you need a healer. Me, a Hu Tao main: I do not think so.

[@UltimateDespair98]

A way to “nerf” Bennet would be to make an enemy that ignores all character buffs.

[@Tomepolt]

Huh suddenly your youtube channel name made sense cuz that will make every character go despair fr.

[@dontshitontravelermains5498]

Then that can also mean, there will be at least one playable character that can ignore every enemies debuffs

[@Tomepolt]

@@dontshitontravelermains5498 unknown god for sure

[@ellieli13]

Yeah but that will cause problems for other characters like sara, zhongli, kazuha, sucrose, raiden etc sara (no c6) is already pretty irrelevant without that nerf and if it’s implemented she’ll become like Thoma or xinyan

[@jeremiahsmith916]

Won’t happen, because some premium 5* chars are buffers (Kazuha, Yelan, etc), and people who spent money to get them could file a legal complaint that they “paid for a feature they are unable to use”.

[@wildfire_]

ah yes, the battery, the pyro support, the attack booster, the cleanser, the healer, even the tank.

[@michapiasta3072]

Kinda like ornn from lol

[@Zahri8Alang]

I can hear it now.... Baizhu is screaming at the top of his lungs "LET MEE IIIIINNNNN- the roster"

[@Frankenmuppet]

10/10 quality breakdown

[@CJdoesntlikehandles]

you could totally indirectly nerf him further down the line, introduce a status that that cuts base attack and not other stats of course this would probably require more characters like yelan to exist that can deal damage without attack stats alternatively, you could also make the cut base attack convert into attack% somehow (maybe every 1 point of cut base attack is 0.25% more attack percent?), or just make attack% more effective

[@TheTruestZero]

Also, being Pyro, you just need to slot another one for the Biggus Dickus of ATK buffs with the Pyro resonance.

[@forevermasteri4330]

You forgot about Fantastic Voyage's cleansing and snapshotting properties. The latter is a large contributor to why Xiangling pairs so well with Bennett. Pyronado and many other lingering skills/bursts have their stats "locked-in" upon activation. The external buffs persist even after move's source(s) expire.

[@stevem.9340]

Bennett is basically a Well of Radiance Warlock from Destiny 2.

[@pineapple8008]

As someone who has never used Bennett and never will use him, I can say he isn't essential for "endgame" content and using whoever you want is definitely the best choice.

[@h2obubbli]

Got him at c5 (not activating c6) but I will never use him, strictly vanity reasons, just don’t like his design.. been 36* abyss just fine

[@baltstop2702]

no one is essential but he's the best choice, and if you want to clear the abyss you need as much help as possible

[@kuroken_n]

Have to be reminded that Bennett ult would apply pyro on the current character so if the enemy hit with element attack that could react with Pyro, we will receive the reaction damage as well which I would consider as a cons for him + the ult limited to the diameter makes it harder to maintain if the enemy are not static

[@Jdogrey1]

I love how Sumeru basically just exists to prove this wrong... Pretty much every character released since this video has been designed to make Bennett obsolete... I also find it funny that he really thought a lot of the things he thought in this video.

[@cqrson8079]

my bennett is C5, lvl 90, and has a crowned burst with a lvl 90 sword. i love this character. i will never not be using him.

[@clarathetrash6279]

In some ways sayu is kinda similar to Bennett but she falls short in her ability to buff teammates. Idk I always thought they were similar but never saw anyone compare them.

[@jfi_]

there’s only one potential problem, pyro state in bennett ult may be targeted by dendro attack in 3.0

[@monadoboy9639]

I think at some point we probably will get like a five star version of Bennett someone who heals and/or gives huge amounts of attack to party members but it will probably take a little while

[@powguma]

Here's one way they can make him outdated - release a new endgame content where ground effects are useless. It could be a gauntlet or moving/disappearing platforms. I dont think they will do this though because it would also affect other chatacters too like Albedo and Kokomi.

[@phatnugget134]

Bennett was my dps carry up until like AR 35, and I don't regret it

[@Antigen__]

Bennett frustrates me sometimes. He's great, but almost to the point where he's _cheap._ He's laughably low effort to build to an OP level, and even with C6 he still basically slots into every single team. I sometimes think they should've made him either a dedicated healer who can cleanse like Jean, or a specialty pyro buffer like Shenhe is for cryo. It would certainly have led to more interesting usage. I mean, I still use him all the time, especially with my pyro carries or when running Sunfire, but man, somebody stop this kid.

[@reesarts]

wait, bennett doesn't cleanse? but i think i see the pyro symbol on my character's hp bar when they're inside the circle. also, c6 provides a buffer to pyro including the fusion, right?

[@Antigen__]

@@reesarts He does cleanse. I'm saying they should've made it either or, because he does both. And yes, it does.

[@reesarts]

@@Antigen__ oh, you meant he is too convenient for having both? well, that's what makes him beginner-friendly i suppose, but you have a point there.

[@vandergrift5557]

don't use Bennet if you've that much problem with him lol

[@Antigen__]

@@vandergrift5557 I'm gonna keep using him because he's legitimately handy, but I don't use him where I don't want to (plus he's C6, if that's worth anything). The issue I take with him is just that he's too good and undermines creativity in team comps for people who don't actively go out of their way to shake it up. It's the same with Kazuha, arguably, but Bennett is a 4-star. Not that it affects me personally, I guess, but I wish the conversation would go beyond "just use Bennett lmao"

[@BNuts]

The character most likely to be able to do as well, if not better, than Bennett as a healer/buffer, will most likely be introduced in Natlan. After all, most characters of a given element are introduced when their region is. On top of that, the region's Archon is generally top-tier. And all though we only have three examples to draw from so far, all of the Archons so far are also top-tier... Support units. That means we can expect Murata, the Pyro Archon, to be a top-tier Support unit, just like Bennett. I think she'll most likely be packing buffing and healing in her kit. The question would be in regards to shields. She doesn't _need_ to, but both Xinyan and Thoma prove that Pyro characters can have shields. Battery? Benny himself is good on recharge, so I don't see why not. But above all, the Pyro Archon is also the Archon of War, so I believe she'll be heavy on attack power, so she may be the closest among the Archons to being a Main DPS unit instead of being a Support. But it would follow the pattern more if she was Support. Maybe Support DPS then. Of course, the thought among Mihorniverse's players is that the likelihood Murata will be based on _Honkai Impact 3rd_ 's own first greatsword-wielding Fire unit, Murata Himeko, is pretty pervasive. Himeko's fate in _HI3_ left players wanting more for her, so seeing a version of her in _Honkai: Star Rail_ made a lot of people happy. Seeing her as Murata in _Genshin_ would also make a lot of people happy. And if she's based on Himeko, Murata could also use a greatsword. I just hope her attack speed is more on par with her Vermillion Knight: Eclipse and not her earlier battlesuits, which were all slower than the weaker Claymore-users in _Genshin_ .

[@mharris1055]

Sometimes I wonder, since Benny is so good and versatile. Where do you go from there? Heal now up to 100%? ATK buff now include artifacts ATK? Higher multipliers?

[@marka112]

He wont be replaced but like water sword boy and yelan, he will be powercrept for sure. Going with the archons being godly supports, I assume pyro archon will be the 5 star bennet

[@Daniel-jv7ez]

I still have him lvl one 😵‍💫

[@certainperson]

I do too and I know I should build him asap but I hate his design and voice so much.

[@bluezebra6701]

@@certainperson same lmao

[@paulskiye6930]

@@certainperson his Japanese Voice sounds pretty good ImO

[@poppiexy]

@@certainperson i would usually say not to build characters just cause they're good if u don't like them...but ur missing out bigtime honestly lmao. i love bennett tho so no problem with raising him to lvl 80 :)

[@epicazeroth]

Gonna watch this and the old version for maximum 5head meta knowledge.

[@hyperbolicparaboloid154]

I think said the same thing with Diluc 7 months ago... Now I'm worried...

[@marinsoletti6586]

I like to think that he's this multifunctional and strong because he's just meant to be played on his own as a single character team (since he's the only member of Bennet's aventurer team and has to do everything on his own)

[@scyred4568]

LOL. Lorewise that actually make sense, but I doubt that was what Hoyoverse had in mind.

[@MacaronesRen]

They could add a mechanic that is similar to corrosion but it effects your energy.

[@Asyipyip]

bennett was one of the first characters i ever pulled, so i actually formed an attachment to him before i even knew anything about the meta. i lucked out that the character i ended up loving just from playstyle/personality happened to be the pyro archon ahahaha

[@jhmoxl]

i'd have to think how to word it but enemies that can steal fields basically persistent, fixed buffs/heals would hurt him. I'm saying if there was an effect or field you put down say Jeans field, Benny's, chongyun, etc they wouldn't be healed on the burst or by a mobile healing so like barbara is immune but could get on healed on the ticks and steal the buff so they would get the shreds or atk buffs as well as you do. I'd have to think about if this effects Kokomi with Karege

[@elbowl13]

Bennett is the AK47 of genshin

[@ButteryVengeance]

Plus he's Pyro. So you get that sweet resonance buff from him. (with another pyro anyway but they're generally good DPS)

[@bell7860]

He also makes a fantastic melt/vaporize DPS 😌 I’m at AR 60 and he’s still my go-to DPS.

[@Suta969]

i think it will be like FGO's Waver, godtier support since day 1, and even if he gets powercrept by more specialized characters, his sheer versatility and ease of access will maker him still widely used

[@racool911]

Remember the days of being annoyed at getting Ganyu accidentally and then being so hyped when I got Diluc

[@ZeLink128]

i think as long as attack-scaling characters exist in the meta, bennett will always be useful. not only is his attack buff extremely powerful and not dependant on the recipient's attack% (meaning he can be used with low-base attack characters like itto), but he's also an excellent and fast healer, a great pyro battery, a cleanser, and is capable of dishing out respectable sub-dps damage if you build him right. his cons are easy to obtain (compared to other buffers like gorou and sara), and he's simple to build and use. hoyoverse might try to phase him out by introducing characters who don't care about attack like yelan or element-specific buffers like shenhe, but bennett just does so much and so well that he's a good pick in just about any team that doesn't rely on freeze.

[@flower-pit7642]

the only way i see bennetts usage drop slightly is if/when they add more dendro enemies in abyss

[@mulraf]

little correction. i've seen this tier list on other videos saying it's like 1.0 but the tier list contains xiao who came in like 1.3 i think and by that time i think tier lists already started looking different? no idea where that list comes from.

[@m.rgamehub9378]

I started using Bennett as soon as i got him. He was my second ever char. The funny thing for first few months i didn't even knew about the bursts power i was playing him cuz Pyro swordsman sounded cool and pyro was necessary for many puzzles during that time. It was during venti's rerun (almost 3 months) that when i got his C1 and read it it and yeah i was like ....... ATK boost? his bursts give atk? And yeah after that he got spoiled hard got 3 sets 4p noble(imo the best) 2p noble 2p Crimson(nukes) 4p Emblem(Infinite Energy), 2 5* swords aquila for max buff, skyward for energy, a crown. I know he is a character who needs a little investment but with some investments even while playing support you will see occasional 60-70K vap nukes and that for me is ridiculous. I mean here is my max optimized Raiden with engulfing Lightening doing 65k w/o any buffs and here is a support casually doing same to enemies if they are a little wet.

[@irisx_x5199]

Well back in the day nobody would ever imagine Diluc would fall off the meta. At the same time, I bet nobody knew Bennet would become meta. So let's just see what happens. Who knows what our first 5 star pyro sword user will do.

[@Gnurklesquimp]

I STILL don't feel confident making a tier-list, it just gets so reductive and misleading, especially when you consider personal situations, those early tier-lists showcase some people have an easier time with it than they should.

[@pyronado4320]

The thing with genshin is that you can't just post final results of your tierlist. There is a 2 hour kqm video and they tell exactly that the moment people screen shot final results and start comparing units one to one it loses its meaning. Context is required for why they are placed so high or low or if you are using them as a support or dps. Tierlists can be fun conversations if you disregard the waifu/husbando aspect for some time and discuss it with your friends/streaming audience

[@Gnurklesquimp]

@@pyronado4320 Yeah I enjoyed theirs a lot, the notes and versions make it a more meaningful format, but even then it's only good if people take it for what it is and no more: A collection of incomplete considerations and rankings based on them. It may even be fair to say they covered most of the more relevant aspects as far as the majority of content goes, while making certain assumptions about investment etc., and they covered quite some of that with their notes too. There's even philosophy, Kokomi is more stable while pumping dps in Mona's omen can meet a threshold to reach excessively fast times, similarly, Eula etc. have a lot more potential if you're willing to crit-reset. (Personally, I'm definitely not, but I do like playing around Mona in many cases) And how much do you value specialists vs. generalists etc., if you've got almost nothing, then generalists get a ton of value, but it's hard to quantify. Even then, if you use a pumped up Raiden and Ayaka to steamroll everything and have some basics like the already at/near peak-potential 4* national and taser for backup, Shenhe and C6 Sara being niche effectively doesn't matter, to you they can reasonably be considered S-tier. It's the sort of big picture you try to add to the even bigger picture, no list-maker, reviewer or calcer etc. can cover everything, but it can definitely add greatly to your understanding of the game overal and your position in it.

[@YayaFeiLong]

That's why most Genshin build guide sites have 3 tier lists, one for Main DPS, one for Sub-DPS, and one for Support

[@nevogolan6505]

In the future, we might get content balanced around the idea that the player already had many characters leveled. In that case, element specific supports might replace Bennett in later game. (Except c6 makes him a specialized support for pyro so yeah he's eternally viable)

[@zack2o418]

Unless if they somehow add a 7th cons to every character that bennets 7th cons is so op that his burst will boost everyones dmg to even further like probably 300~500% but u will be forced to trigger c6

[@walter1824]

The only fix is to raise every characters base stats a bit so that his buff becomes insignificant. It will make % buffs better than flat stats

[@dragz3868]

Maybe increase level cap to 100?

[@SolracNexus]

future enemies that block attack boosts: "oh I don't think so"

[@Bob-bw2lv]

He's f2p friendly and will be meta unless there's more buffer like shenhe that can overcome Bennett buff but yeah it can stack so there's still going to be Bennett in the team comp

[@shadowphoenic]

although late id like to also add that most people already have bennet built so even if a new "bennet" came out if he was a 5 star hed be too hard to get to be worth it if hes a 4 star well same there as ur not guaranteed 4 stars not to mention actually building said character and finding the best weapon and set for alot of people it wouldnt be worth the hassle if they already have a good bennet

[@Frallicus]

Literally the only way he would fall off is if we get a direct copy of him (prolly 5 stars) who does the exact things with higher stats and the ring limitation gone. Would be legitimately game breaking

[@andrewjordan6828]

Bennet will always be meta regarding characters in the current pool, he will slowly be worked out teams when newer characters have better synergy with other newer characters

[@everydaynabil1937]

we can also use bennett to make a makeshift hu tau maxing his E damage (especially with c3) in yelan+xq+XL+bennett comp. the good thing is XL dont need too much ER, both bennett and XL damage boosted by yelan clarion dice as they keep switching places on field instead of just hu tao. Its good for xl especially bcs her pyronado get boosted by clarion dice, a lot.

[@everydaynabil1937]

@@bot-xk8nz pyronado still get bonus damage from yelan, only when xiangling on field that is.

[@everydaynabil1937]

@@bot-xk8nz pyronado does get buffed with yelan passive. Try it out and u will see. Xiangling pyronado damage will constantly keep increasing when she's on field

[@user-yn7bz5mn5g]

Self infusion of Pyro + Dendro poking through shields and or ramping damage based on missing hp might be sufficient in nerfing him.

[@denki2558]

That could also buff Hu Tao if Bennett can suddenly sustain her while remaining below the 50% HP threshold.

[@user-yn7bz5mn5g]

@@denki2558 Ramping damage based on missing HP% might actually counter Bennett unless he builds healer. Heck it's a nerf on Xiao as well but worse for HuTao since she builds HP and will lose more since it's based on percentages.