It’s really not that simple in my opinion. Yes, ash blossom is a consideration. BUT: Book of Eclipse doesn’t target, and while that may not matter for kashtira, I like my side deck cards to have wide applicability instead of only a guarantee against one specific deck. Especially when the difference in power levels between decks is not huge this format. If you want a card that blows out kashtira, run lancea. You can fire it their turn to cut them off many of their power cards and potentially end their combo. -It also destroys floo if your deck has a bad matchup.
@tomikaaranyosi1961 Жыл бұрын
@@Exisist5151 ur righty just wanted to note that you cant use lancea in ur own turn.
@Exisist5151 Жыл бұрын
@@tomikaaranyosi1961 oh damn that’s embarrassing I’ll edit it out
@ashwinjhamb Жыл бұрын
I feel like in mathmech you can get away with playing eclipse because you can use it going first and remove a body with superfactorial. That way they draw 1 less. You're also only ending on Link monsters so you're not affected. The reason I still think eclipse is better is for the spright matchup if they start with beaver or live Twin, booking 2 monsters is significantly better than 1. That would instantly end their turn unless they have starter
@SimoneCatt Жыл бұрын
I also think that for mathmech eclipse is superior, it works going first also and it solves a lot of boards, not only kashtira.
@Railmydad Жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying this for a few days Especially going second, you’ll be popping all their sets with accesscode anyway
@SimoneCatt Жыл бұрын
Tbh I don't think Joshua even considered mathmech as a pick for London, i mean it's obvious he hates it but listening to what he thinks a deck should do to do well, he is either describing spright or mathmech 😂
@ashwinjhamb Жыл бұрын
@@SimoneCatt yeah I remember for his tier list he was saying how he doesn't really like those cyberse kinds of decks but he didn't really say why
@StriderYGO Жыл бұрын
Joshua the type of guy to adjust his seated position and the lights in the room to always look like in his thumbnail
@andrewgood7586 Жыл бұрын
Yup. This is why I chose book of moon. I dont want to have to book my own field, and I dont want to risk letting my opponent draw a bunch of cards.
@Exisist5151 Жыл бұрын
So: Against Kashtira Specifically, and only kashtira, yes. I think he established a good point. You aren’t going to be facing only kashtira though. In my opinion, kashtira is one of the worst “best decks” relative to the rest of the format. To the point where I don’t think kashtira is going to be topping with the ease with which you can hate on the deck (unlike tearlaments). I would say run book of moon if your deck already has innate non-targeting non-destruction removal that isn’t hard to get to and the end board isn’t great. If it doesn’t, it’s good to have book of eclipse as it deals with branded boards better than book of moon does.
@niccoloromano1969 Жыл бұрын
The thing I don't undertake about the entire "look i can ash it" argument, is that, guess what? Most of my hand and interactions during my turn can get ashed. While it is true that in 1/3 games they may have it, if your hand dies to a single ash then there's something not working with your deck rather than a general weakness of a single tech card.
@jermainepaki46067 ай бұрын
I'm a dark magician main, book of eclipse is great when I can can combo it with Quintet Magician's effect to destroy all opponents cards when summoned, and the opponent has monsters that can't be destroyed by effects or targeted by single effects. Also works great with Dark Burning Magic, Dark Magical Circle, Ebon Illusion Magician, Chaos Angel, Master of Chaos.
@Spirit_Beast_ Жыл бұрын
2:41 Me on the way to the (Spellbook) Library
@GrimoireWar Жыл бұрын
Idk in the naturia i find it pretty useful to reset baronnes effect
@OmniKing_17 Жыл бұрын
Your argument is based on shaky ground. Yes the books are played for kash. BUT, they’re in main, and therefore will come up in all other match-ups, eclipse is generally better against all manner of shenanigans.
@RayMon504 Жыл бұрын
you are correct. wayyyy more versatile card in an extremely wide open format.
@phoenix5095 Жыл бұрын
@@RayMon504 hell no eclipse is just worst when your going first therfore less versatile, book of moon rn is really good going 1st and second if you need it that badly play it in the side along with book of moon, the next reason is everyone and their mother rn is on ash if u need to flip their shang or ariseheart badly face down and they have ash your just cooked if you don't open other outs book of moon has no such issue against spright both trade with carrot regardless against branded both books are not that good to begin with since they can still fuse.
@OmniKing_17 Жыл бұрын
@@phoenix5095 ahhhh very good points. Strong points for sure
@90sduelist83 Жыл бұрын
Book of moon has always been better. This exact same debate happened when Book of eclipse came out. Book of moon to 1 again 😆
@WhatDaHeckIsThat Жыл бұрын
Interesting, what do you think about eclipse vs lunar eclipse vs moon for non-Kashtira matchup coverage? Which do you think would do better in other matchups?
@Lyricaon Жыл бұрын
Book of Eclipse should be have Ninjitsu Art in its name. But that is just my opinion.
@bighamgrizlesАй бұрын
i get ten zones locked turn one not 3 lol
@ZackerYGO Жыл бұрын
idk i like to play grindier decks and i don’t like my opponent drawing 2+ for free
@MarioLopez-xs3vc Жыл бұрын
Eclipse is okay if you're on an OTK deck or want to flip your own stuff over sometimes to avoid targeting. Otherwise you have to be careful of not doing enough to break a board, meaning the opponent gets to draw cards. There's also the "Ash negates it" argument, but if they're wasting it on that, you could always just search or draw into a better board breaker that they now can't stop you from getting to. That said, if you're not on a Flip or Fusion deck(or in some cases ritual or tribute decks), the thing has enough risks of becoming a liability that you' d probably be better off with Moon anyway.
@hiddenfog180 Жыл бұрын
Book of Eclipse pretty good in Swordsoul. Wait for the right moment, book their whole field and your own, yeah they'll draw some cards but who cares since it's the end phase, then Baronne negate is live again next turn when you flip her back up.
@giovannilawes9120 Жыл бұрын
that's not good at all. why would you want your opponents drawing cards? also it turns off blackout and chixiao negate so you would have to use all your interruptions THEN book
@hiddenfog180 Жыл бұрын
@@giovannilawes9120 Who cares if they draw cards during their end phase if you win on your next turn And just use your Chixiao and Blackout before you use Eclipse, it’s not that complicated.
@DaaaarK147 Жыл бұрын
book of eclipse is amazing against decks that can only put 1 negate on board and you can get a full board to clear everything, so either you force the only negate they have or you force more shit
@officeimpact6377 Жыл бұрын
Why do people say books are better than raigeki? I never understood.
@Vuhduhlol Жыл бұрын
because books are more flexible and therefore a better main deck option, since you can't know if you go first or second in game 1.
@LnnyOsoTo Жыл бұрын
Nowadays a lot of game happens between turn draw and Main Phase, the books can be activated before Main Phase but Raigeki can not Also since they're QuickPlay you can just set them and use them as interruption during your opponent's turn, much better going first than Raigeki.
@Ragnarok540 Жыл бұрын
Books are really versatile, you can dodge target negations with those, resolve effects under skill drain, etc...
@jconny65 Жыл бұрын
Faster
@Custarddolphin Жыл бұрын
Because Shangri la just protect itself from destruction and I'd say dark hole is better to get rid of corrupted iblee
@Custarddolphin Жыл бұрын
I said to my friends that book of moon is better than eclipse but as always I get laughed
@n_if5 ай бұрын
ahhahahhaah
@RayMon504 Жыл бұрын
eclipse is an out to nib as well. Sorry but eclipse has way more versatility atm.
@giovannilawes9120 Жыл бұрын
THATS NOT GOOD, why would you want to book all your interruptions???
@RayMon504 Жыл бұрын
@@giovannilawes9120 so you'd rather have an empty field? Trippin
@victortinoco5207 Жыл бұрын
@@RayMon504 You lose either way
@Crow1106 Жыл бұрын
you literally book your own board so whats the difference to getting nibbed
@TheFrogasaurus Жыл бұрын
Please keep in mind that you don’t flip your own cards up in the end phase so doing this is effectively the same result as if you let nib resolve
@MrPeppe6 Жыл бұрын
Confirm he is maining eclipse
@danstern102 Жыл бұрын
this dude is smoking lmaoo
@victortinoco5207 Жыл бұрын
Ninja is the best deck at using book of moon to its full extent, sadly evenly matched exists and it completely ruins the deck