Why Brazil Sank Its Own Aircraft Carrier At Sea

Brazil’s Navy sunk its aircraft carrier São Paulo in the Atlantic ocean this month, ending a saga over what to do with the decommissioned ship. The vessel is full of toxic and dangerous material, including tons of asbestos, used in the ship's paneling, and no country - including Brazil - would let it dock in their ports. Environmentalists are outraged, some calling it state-sponsored environmental crime.
#brazil #saopaulo #ship #ocean #environment #pollution #asbestos

[@AnakinButDumb]

fun fact: before sinking it, Brazil actually sold the carrier as scrap for a Turkish company, but they didn't let it in because of the asbestos and stuff, so they sunk it

[@Dragoneer]

Lol so Brazil basically scammed Turkey Edit: Trust KZbin comment sections to end up in semantical nonsense because someone looks too deeply into a joke…

[@henry247]

​@@DragoneerI wasn't sold to Turkey it was sold to a Turkish ship junkyard.

[@Dragoneer]

@@henry247 Ok Brazil scammed a Turkish ship junkyard

[@henry247]

@@Dragoneer Eh...how?

[@Dragoneer]

@@henry247 By selling it and then sinking it before they can get their hands on it. You know this is a joke, right??

[@stevewall9181]

Having served on a US helicopter carrier, built in mid '45, loaded with asbestos, our ship did well for decades. Asbestos was never a problem unless disturbed. After severely damaged in a gale off Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, in the winter of 1967, the Navy sent us to repairs and refit at the yards in Boston. Took lots of work and time. Instead of moving its crew off ship, we became exposed to many types airborne hazards like asbestos during the work. I now have asbestosis...

[@mrlayhey8564]

🤔

[@alvingarfielddelaire1744]

Sorry mate. 😥

[@lolartover7819]

Wow I would like to know more about this if we could get to talk more on it off here

[@biggdogg33]

​@@lolartover7819 asbestos is light enough to float but hard enough to damage your lungs.

[@westaussiebrumby5425]

Aussie band the mining of asbestos in 1966 and we only stop all use in 2003

[@outandaboutintheworl]

As long as you aren't breathing in the asbestos it isn't a threat. And if you're 350km off the cost of Brazil and 5km under the ocean and trying to breathe, then you have bigger problems than asbestos.

[@anonymousfortunes2970]

Bro how am I supposed to breath underwater in a healthy way with all this asbestos! FUC-

[@Dr.Kay_R]

😂

[@kouroshalimohammadi3404]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@alissonmauro5349]

Sea animals: "Oh, a new apartment"

[@atlas235]

lol

[@kazueballesteros3665]

The puffer fish and a hermit crab without a shell: Y I P P E E

[@bigbullfrog98]

The sinking footage was not of the Sao Palo, it was of the USS Oriskany - the carrier that the US properly decontaminated and sank to provide an artificial reef and a recreational diving spot.

[@YELLTELL]

LOL, YEP! I REMEMBER WATCHING IT SUNK LIVE ON THE HISTORY CHANNEL

[@brunopontes6305]

São Paulo* honey

[@wasdmatter3478]

@@brunopontes6305 🤓

[@bmanrox5542]

​@@brunopontes6305 🤓

[@SuperPhunThyme9]

By "properly decontaminating", you mean burning 84,000,000 gallons of crude oil to prepare it for sinking.... 80% of money spent on anything (including manual labor) goes straight to burning oil and gas. Don't forget it. Neither of these methods are better or worse. Just different.

[@rogeriopenna9014]

Some info, because this is not so simple. This old ship was sold to a company that took it to Turkey. Turkey forbid is entrance. Brazil also forbid its return. The company that was responsible threatened to abandon the ship in the middle of the ocean. The Brazilian navy decided to assume reasonably over it again. But it identified three huge holes caused by oxidation at the hull. 3000 cubic meters of water had ALREADY entered the ship. The report said the ship would sink naturally before the end of February. The asbestos is impossible to remove. It's an integral part of the ship. The Brazilian navy decided to sink it because it would sink anyway. And if it sink uncontrolled, it might threaten the crew of the tugboat. Furthermore, it might sink near the port, creating a logistical nightmare. Or in an environmental protected area. There wasn't much that could be done except this. BTW, notice that asbestos was used extensively in ships at WW2 time. As so many ships were sunk at the time, the asbestos in this aircraft carrier is a drop in the ocean, in comparison

[@a2falcone]

The ship was sinking according to the Brazilian Navy which had a clear interest in getting rid of the ship. All in all I think sinking it was the least worse option at that point, but I don't trust the Brazilian reports about the state of the hull too much.

[@rogeriopenna9014]

@@a2falcone anyone may choose to not believe the official reports from any source.

[@rogeriopenna9014]

@@a2falcone here, a tv report about the aircraft carrier, 3 months ago. Around the 8.20 mark they fly a drone around. There are several huge corrosion marks and holes on the hull kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6C0gaSYoaplicU&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE

[@zombiejelly4111]

@@a2falcone still doesn’t matter…the ship was useless and nothing could be done….better safe sinking it in a deep deep part of the ocean so deep reefs can’t even form…calm down take a marine biology course and understand no harm has been done, just gonna become a home for marine life on the ocean floor

[@brunotcs]

Um relatório feito por quem queria se livrar do navio (Marinha) durante um governo que dava exacerbadas liberdades para as ultrapassadas e inuteis forcas armadas brasileiras ... nao acho que tenha muita credibilidade nao...

[@VandalAudi]

Reading further context and facts, the decision to scuttle it in a safe manner rather than becoming a navigational hazard is a good call from the Brazillian Navy.

[@Sampsonoff]

“Safe manner” is doing heavy lifting in your sentence

[@VandalAudi]

@@Sampsonoff as long as it didn't create a future navigational hazard, that's enough.

[@Sampsonoff]

@@VandalAudi That’s an offensively low bar imo. But then again my passion for hunting and fishing is lifelong and I’ve been involved in many conservation efforts worldwide 🤷‍♂️

[@VandalAudi]

@@Sampsonoff I get what you're saying but no.shipbreaker facility would accept that hulk, keeping it afloat was a drain of resources and a hazard, disposing it that would satisfy your requirement requires an exorbitant sum of money and time that is way out of Brazil's budget, so this is the only good option left.

[@Ghosts1129]

@@Sampsonoff Unless the ship has some toxic chemicals inside of it, that will react with water/combine with water, the ship will actually turn into a reef where fish thrive. Asbestos is usually placed in water so that it no longer is deemed harmful. Soooo, if the ship had no chemicals left inside, it's a new reef for those fish you like to catch.

[@spark1400]

Future archaeologists are gonna find the ship and be like “wow this ship must have been sunken in a great battle thousands of years ago” Nah mate, absestos.

[@QWERTY-gp8fd]

not really. the sinking is already documented.

[@Sampsonoff]

The great Battle to Breathe

[@thegrayseed2792]

The Mesothelioma War.

[@richardstrauser6216]

More likely that tiny bacteria will eat away at all of the iron content and leave a giant pile of asbestos and brass down there given a couple thousand years.

[@inurokuwarz]

Once I was playing HOI4 as Brazil and I experienced a bug where my entire navy was sunk, save for one battleship that I couldn't control in the Caribiean. This Ghost Ship just sailed around engaging American ships and Aircraft and winning against entire fleets because it couldn't die.

[@capitaotrex505]

É meu amigo Você já ouviu falar do lendário navio brasileiro encouraçado Minas Gerais o navio de guerra mais poderoso da Primeira Guerra Mundial???

[@country_flyboy]

​@@capitaotrex505I heard that it was horribly mismanaged, and crew conditions were terrible to the point of mutiny.

[@shaunholt]

That's not a bug. It's a feature.

[@Limosethe]

When you're such a bad captain that your mutineers have to win the war for you

[@Taima]

lol goddamn Battleship Black Pearl

[@davidchase9424]

I think no matter what you do someone will always hate you.

[@revokdaryl1]

Wise words, my friend. Wise words. This is why death is a blessing in disguise.

[@tedhubertcrusio372]

​@@revokdaryl1death to the hater? *Loads Springfield 1903*

[@revokdaryl1]

@@tedhubertcrusio372 LOL! Well recently I revisited the concept of eternal return, which seems far more plausible to me than any Heaven or Hell scenario. It proposes that, immediately after we die, we are reborn into the same life all over again. And this will continue for eternity. Nothing will change. The same pains, joys and sorrows will be experienced over and over and over again, down to the most minute detail, like that rainbow sweater you wore to school back in junior kindergarten.

[@davec3583]

I don't know anything about asbestos but I do watch a lot of movies, so I'm pretty sure Brazil is going to be attacked by a gigantic radioactive squid as a result of this.

[@simoneales2568]

lol!!!

[@LoicoDeCabueca]

The president of Brazil are "Socialist Lula da Silva" (squid of Silva)

[@Huniooo]

o porta-avião não era nuclear

[@RCsev070]

Asbestos doesn't react with water. On the contrary, when handeling asbestos the best way to limit harm is...making it wet. Education is a beautiful thing.

[@justsomeeggsinapot1784]

Ok what about all the other chemicals

[@bloodreaper8822]

@@justsomeeggsinapot1784 All if not most of the other chemicals that would have probably been removed before it was sunk, if not then Brazil would face huge backlash form the international community for dumping hazardous materials.

[@justsomeeggsinapot1784]

@@bloodreaper8822 you know hazardous materials get dumped places daily right? It isn't easy but if you do deep research you can find lots of instances of overturned trains and sunken ships with vague or covered up cargo records

[@bloodreaper8822]

@@justsomeeggsinapot1784 I was talking about purposeful dumping not accidently ones that u r talking about.

[@DBT1007]

Yes, BUT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT PLASTIC AND OTHER DANGEROIS MATERIALS THERE TOO. Obviously they wont uninstall the cable system and etc in there. You talk about education, but you're not educated as well😅

[@anthonymadril1210]

You know what I think? I think you left the cameraman on that ship.😮

[@andreaspedersen3952]

Remote camera

[@Pearloryx]

Sponsored by GoPro

[@motashaiye]

The camera man always survives. He's immortal.

[@lysandroabelcher2592]

lol

[@ballzRdeep]

Cameramen never die, that's why later there's footage of it at the bottom. He's still there

[@phil20_20]

I think the environmentalists failled to come up with a better plan. Otherwise, Brazil would have used it.

[@bigmacstack3468]

Huh? That doesn’t make any sense

[@afterlife697]

I think the only mistake made here by the Brazilian Navy was not filling the ship with environmentalists before sinking it.

[@swbeyer8349]

Some of the video clips used in this video were of the sinking of the former USS Oriskany to make an artificial reef off the US east coast. This was done after months of mitigation efforts to remove asbestos and other hazardous material.

[@jasonwilliams3967]

They don't remove asbestos inorder to sink a ship. Totally unnecessary....

[@etuanno]

I haven't found anything concerning asbestos in underwater conditions. My guess is that it won't really float around and if it does, the huge surface area will make it suitable for colonisation, increasing its density and make it float down to the ocean floor. In the case of Brazilian ship, it was sunk to a deph of 5km, so there won't be much biological activity to disturb the asbestos. It will sit there long after we're extinct, because it's a mineral.

[@jasonwilliams3967]

@@etuanno, asbestos is a natural occurring rock like material. It's only danger is when it's reduced down to a powder or dust, where it can become airborne. It's filers are hook shaped and dig into the soft tissues of the lungs, thus causing the the body to form scar tissue around the fibers to encapsulate them. During asbestos abatement, water is sprayed on it to prevent frangible fibers from becoming airborne, so the ocean bottom is a perfect place. The substance is not toxic and is found in the ground all over.

[@cactusdu67f]

Repose in peace Carrier Foch

[@brucebaum1458]

My step Dad used to play with asbestos with his workmates in the 50’s were around it all the time in ship construction, he just turned 91 a month ago, it may be somewhat dangerous but the lawyers have made it into a bio weapon so they can fill their pockets full of cash.

[@jasonmariani1258]

I can see that happening for sure, thanks for your comment it was by far the most realistic and truthful

[@henryhill1364]

“To the horror of environmentalists” they should watch the ship breaking yards of Bangladesh that’s horror !!!

[@sachiinrauut7790]

It was here in India also.

[@stereotype.6377]

Maybe we can (and should) be opposed to multiple practices at once? idk, sounds pretty achievable to me

[@tommcguire6472]

Their parents are making a fortune investing in the shipyards or making money off the shipping lines. So that protest is strictly off limits

[@ew264]

@@stereotype.6377 Why? Whats going to happen? Few dead fish? Some algae too perhaps. The world aint ending. I couldnt care less about the health of fish. We can farm the tasty ones and let the rest die.

[@realherobrine5636]

all environmentalists do is whine and yell and sit

[@stanislasbara3850]

This aircraft carrier is an old ship from the french army name as "Charles de Gaulle" it was give to Brasil and that name it "Sao Paulo"

[@almike5816]

It was the Foch not the Charles de Gaule. The CdG is a lot younger and still in use for years to come

[@robertoprimordial2633]

Não foi dado

[@donarthiazi2443]

@stanislasbera KZbin has suspended your commenting privileges

[@noahs9866]

This might just be the most useless comment I have ever encountered

[@MOTO809]

The absolute best way to mitigate the danger of asbestos is to get it wet. Problem solved, I'd say.

[@Elhinal3023]

But still asbestos is not the only chemicals present

[@settratheimperishable4093]

​@@Elhinal3023depends, I hope they cleaned out all the fuel tanks and such thoroughly before sinking it.

[@JUST-ME2468]

...OR , not to have dug it up in the first place.

[@cranci]

@@JUST-ME2468 if my grandmother had wheels she would've been a bike

[@_just_another_filthy_redcoat]

@@cranci not a fan of British carbonara then ?

[@nosloppyplease]

Sunken ships make it really easy to get a Coral reef going

[@79pejeperro]

5000 metres depth

[@kieranpalmer9045]

Not that deep they dont

[@MrMongoose221]

Asbestos fish

[@johnpembroke9869]

lol. duh duh duhhhh

[@joellemus8279]

Mmm fiber glass fish, heard they're good.

[@LITTLE1994]

Crazy to see something so large go down

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

well you can see France Saw Brazil coming🤣🤣🤣

[@Tortugues]

Yeah The Foch, that was its name. It was sold to Brazil after being used for 40 years by the French navy

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

well you can see France saw Brazil coming🤣🤣🤣

[@fischerautoprops8931]

I'm surprised that Brazil didn't try to sell it to China.

[@totalnerd5674]

To a Chinese "Amusement Park Entrepreneur" no less

[@davisklein5720]

It’s probably in better shape than china’s aircraft carriers

[@faruk1472]

They did try to sell it to Turkey tho🤣

[@totalnerd5674]

@@faruk1472 Shit, that would have been perfect for their Bayraktar supersonic drone. The drone itself is much lighter than a proper fighter jet, so the old catapults should have had no problem with them. Alas, Turkey probably had their reasons.

[@Igor_054]

​@@totalnerd5674 Brazil was not selling it to Turkish military, buy actually to a Turkish ship yard that would recicle the whole thing. Turkish authorities, however, didn't allow this ship to dock there, due to asbestos, so the deal was canceled.

[@Dylan-ji1xx]

As long as there weren't any chemicals, it would be fine. Asbestos is harmless if it's wet and undisturbed

[@Humanaut.]

Good thing the ocean is static and nothing actually moves in there.

[@Dylan-ji1xx]

@Humanaut. ocean currents aren't strong enough to move a shipwreck. Also, sarcasm makes you sound like an ass

[@peasant7214]

Undisturbed?

[@Dylan-ji1xx]

@@peasant7214 as long as its left alone it won't cause any harm

[@iiyeyitosii8523]

@@Humanaut.are you stupid? I hope you’re being sarcastic

[@chrish5791]

After what the Brazilian government has allowed to happen in the Amazon this ship sinking would have to be awfully bad for the environment to be worse than it.

[@Friendless00]

I think keeping it is even more bad for the enviroment❤

[@josecarlosamador]

1) they actually removed an cleaned the ship of a lot of the asbestos. In the end, the hardest parts to clean would probably end up polluting more. So actually sinking it away from everything was kinda the least worse they could do. 2) to me, an aircraft carrier never made much sense to Brazilian doctrine. Thank God it sank. Too bad it took so long.

[@lucascamelo3079]

We need more submariners, specially nuclear ones

[@josecarlosamador]

@@lucascamelo3079 we need a lot of stuff. Aircraft carriers are kinda the "last step" of a fleet, meaning we'd need much better ships and in bigger quantity. Also, carriers are, doctrine wise, used to project power abroad, something that makes zero sense to Brazil's geopolitics.

[@Ketoku_fr]

​@@josecarlosamador In order for a navy to effectively utilize a carrier, they first have to have a relatively strong fleet of escort ships

[@Eduardo-789]

@@josecarlosamador , concordo contigo. E o Brasil até projeta poder nas missões internacionais de paz que colabora com a ONU, mas um porta-aviões não tem utilidade direta neste caso. Mais inútil ainda é um porta-aviões sem strike group, caso em que se transforma num enorme alvo flutuante.

[@blurredlines2287]

Why couldn’t they save it? Just remove the asbestos.

[@nowthatsfunny1]

Now Lawyers are sending fish notices about mesothelioma lawsuits

[@ablewindsor1459]

Cheers 🥂🥂🥂

[@DillonHathaway]

Seems bad for the fish though lol

[@daviddelgado6090]

If they got rid of the fuel and oil, no biggie. If deep enough, nature will eat it up over the next couple hundred years.

[@theanimalsshow2605]

We need that in Philippines why no donate 😢

[@brianmerk8953]

It is now a great home for Marine life. Great idea.

[@torpedotorben]

I don't know a lot of asbestos but don't you think if it's that dangerous to humans, it would also be dangerous to animals?

[@ottovonbismarck2913]

​@@torpedotorben No, asbestos is not toxic, it is like small needles pieces. When it's wet it's not harmful, when it's dry and it's dust in air, you breathe and they stab your lungs

[@angelaferkel7922]

​@@torpedotorben do you even have an idea what asbestos is?

[@torpedotorben]

@@angelaferkel7922 The EPA states those who consume water with higher than that amount over extended periods may face an increased risk of developing benign intestinal polyps. Another recent study, however, has shown asbestos in drinking water could potentially lead to the risk of cancer, including mesothelioma... do you even have an idea what asbestos is angela?

[@deathbringer9893]

@@torpedotorben source please

[@wgisgr8]

15000 feet down, no big deal-- think about all the ships that went down in WW1 & 2

[@kathleenmann7311]

It all adds up.

[@_R-R]

Apparently environmentalists don't think of that.

[@jaffacalling53]

Wonder how much of a problem asbestos fibers are in the water. Probably not much of one.

[@stefanp7603]

Those ships still cause ecological damage today. There’s been lots of study’s about it you can look it up. There’s a group that investigates old wrecks in the baltics that have a lot of good information about it.

[@stereotype.6377]

Except those weren’t purposefully sunk by their own navy in peacetime?

[@mirjaloll]

Guess I know where to treasure hunt next year

[@johngohranson2830]

Where do people think most ships end up? In America we use old ships as target practice and send them to the deep. I’m sure more than a few had asbestos lol.

[@Kenneth-cn8dx]

Nearly every one would have had asbestos inside. Won't do any damage underwater just like it doesn't when it's underground

[@manuel.camelo]

Isn't that a waste of STEEL?

[@LcsGil]

​@@manuel.camelo it is cheaper to mine and produce from 0 than to recycle this metal

[@manuel.camelo]

@@LcsGil 👁️👃👁️ That's weird.. but thanks for sharing this issue. 🙏

[@nandolopez3146]

Brazil goes in America

[@grecco_buckliano]

Asbestos occurs naturally in aggregate form. Having wet on the sea bed does absolutely no harm in any way. Every feature on the seabed promotes sea life. There could not have been a better use for it.

[@mill2712]

Thanks for the knowledge drop. Though some comments are concerned that asbestos might not be the only dangerous substance on that carrier or that they did a good job cleaning it up.

[@lol-ye5lg]

recycling is a better use.

[@generationfallout5189]

It will break down. Wash up on the beach. Dry on the sand. Get inhaled by beach goers.

[@grecco_buckliano]

@@generationfallout5189 Link to ONE TIME that has ever happened. (pro tip : it never has)

[@generationfallout5189]

@@grecco_buckliano Everything breaks down in the oceans. The waters circulate. Currents carry nutrients here and there. The ocean is far from stagnant. Humanity always wants things to be simple but they very rarely are hombre.

[@captainbernhardf]

No poison the ocean ridicules

[@johnroderickson3639]

That was an idiotic move. They could have dry docked it in a sealed environment and stripped the ship. Humanity is becoming lazier by the year. Thinking is too difficult for most people and common sense does not exist. When that pollution saturates the water, their fishes are going to be poisonous. Humanity is an Idiocracy.

[@MautozTech]

When you have an aircraft carrier you don't ask for permission to dock in the port

[@Slieem]

It doesn’t make you lawless…

[@Darth_Supremas]

Its a government owned ship but the government also controls the war docks that aircraft carriers can dock at so rather than endanger the lives of the crew they just has it wait at bay and got to dock on dinghies

[@eyedunno8462]

Counterpoint: The missles on land are bigger than missles on boat

[@andretoles9505]

In your own port you mean

[@hobomike6935]

I thought the government can do anything it wants, even commit blatant crimes, with total impunity? Or is that only the US government?

[@peter42liter93]

sunken ships are actually pretty good for deep sea creatures, thats a lot of hiding spaces and plenty of room for coral to grow

[@zee9709]

at 15000 feet, its too deep for coral to grow.

[@AmoreG94]

That’s after they stripped it of the hazardous things

[@DrFPanza]

Seafloor at the site is 1,03 leagues, there's no coral (or much of anything) down there. It's a safe resting place.

[@phlippbergamot5723]

@@zee9709 There is still sea life down there that will find the shelter to be useful and a life giving habitat.

[@rvangaal7859]

A tremendous waste of recycling materials

[@philthycat1408]

They could have just declared war on some other country and let it be sunk in their waters and then say, “ we surrender “.

[@joosiekawk]

Lmao who's calling this an "Environment crime or Environmental Terrorist attack?" But no one is batting an eye with Japan continuously pouring nuclear contaminated radioactive waste water directly into the pacific ocean. Talking about millions and millions of tons of radioactive waste water. Oh yea, forgot Japan was a US slave vassal, so all Western media goes "hush hush"

[@centerfield6339]

France pulled a fast one on Brazil, by the sound of it.

[@benoitguillou3146]

That's thinking there was no experts in the brazilian military , and none of those knew how to read a spec sheet ....Cheap ships are cheap for a reason

[@campaspe810]

They only paid 12 million dollars so I don't think so

[@kiernoify]

Lol them sneaky frenchies

[@benoitguillou3146]

@@kiernoify USA financed Hitler after the weimar hyperinflation , then after letting Hitler roll on Europe pretexting "isolationnism" , came to "save" Europe by carpet bombing it and susbequently imposing a giant Marshall plan shark loan to buy their shitty american made products , now that european industry was on it's knees ..... Now that's SNEAKY .... But it's not astonishing from an ex convict colony , that departed from catholic authority and created an more convenient protestant religion because it allowed to kill of the local indian population because they were deemed inferior , by giving them polio infested blankets ......

[@fantasyfinders]

Ha ha

[@atlanteu]

J'ai navigué sur ce Navire en 1996 , il vivait alors ces dernière années de service sous pavillon Français. Je suis triste qu'il ai fini de cette manière.

[@agustinenzoa4447]

It was a piece of junk sh1t aircraft carrier, like most 3rd tier ship your contry produces!! WW2 technology.

[@atlanteu]

@@agustinenzoa4447 Et dans ton pays on ne t'apprend pas le respect!?

[@_just_another_filthy_redcoat]

Fair winds and following seas to the ald girl and your self 🤙 Tis sad to see any ship with history go….

[@DrDrops420]

je vois. je suis content d'avoir pu lire ton commentaire, comment était l'état du Navire l'année donc tu as navigué sur?

[@atlanteu]

@@DrDrops420 Bonjour; oui j'étais affecté sur ce navire en 1996 et pour un navire de plus de trente ans déjà et d'une ancienne technologie il était en très bon état! l'entretien y était rigoureux et constant.

[@user-qm3ji1yl3q]

I think the ocean will take care of it

[@MartinVidenov]

I think the french got really good deal ;)

[@PlaySwag]

Environmental crime? That's just an artificial coral reef.

[@LiveTheLimit]

The nasty chemicals leaking out would be an environmental concern

[@n0t_the_plague_doctor343]

​@@LiveTheLimit there are no chemicals leaking out. They wouldve remived the oil and fuel, and the asbestos is only harmful if airborne. If it isnt airborne, then it just sinks to the floor and is no longer a concern.

[@dethtour]

​@@LiveTheLimit if you want an environment concern. You should be asking the USA for blowing up russia pipeline. Which is the worst environmental catastrophe

[@commissarthorne3894]

​@@dethtour what does that have to do with anything?

[@dethtour]

@@commissarthorne3894 they're both environmental issues but no one talks about the worst in history that the USA caused on purpose.

[@lassoatrain]

Asbestos is not dangerous underwater

[@benh5774]

exactly

[@StephenButlerOne]

As long as the fish don't start to remodel it 😉

[@gregh7457]

@@StephenButlerOne fish don't have lungs

[@StephenButlerOne]

@@gregh7457 they don't do diy either you div

[@Synthwave89]

Source?

[@ILLIAThomas-gf7kq]

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[@Belgravetwinsnewchannel]

Fish: who invited this kid

[@bobtheagent99]

I'd have bought it for less than what they paid to sink it. I've always wanted an aircraft carrier.

[@totallylegityoutubeperson4170]

Sure you would.

[@seanhartnett79]

Lol

[@randomguy6152]

​@@totallylegityoutubeperson4170 well all the materials used to destroy it did indeed cost many thousands of dollars, if they just left it sitting in the ocean and another person claimed it that is free

[@YELLTELL]

TELL EM!

[@Ava-wu4qp]

And transporting the unoperational boat to you, let alone the facility needed to store an architect carrier would cost YOU more than some mere explosives

[@Elquadoslayer]

You know, sunken ships create homes for marine life.

[@AllonKirtchik]

When they’re not full of oil that is

[@FrozenHaxor]

Not at depth of 5 kilometers...

[@gujwdhufjijjpo9740]

@@AllonKirtchik - I doubt they would’ve left oil in it. The toxic material left beyond was asbestos as no one wants it.

[@Aelxi]

True. The ship had already emptied her oil and will be good place for deep sea life. Even in deeper wrecks found in the Pacific there still tons of prosperous marine life.

[@zombiejelly4111]

@@AllonKirtchik it wasn’t full of oil…..nice try tho

[@AeroBennett855]

Is Brazil ever going to build a new aircraft carrier

[@TomW-ks3gp]

Sell it to India?

[@luftwaffles1181]

As long as it has the major toxic materials removed it could end up being good acting as an artificial reef

[@Bot-ov2hs]

they werent removed

[@astatine5781]

@@Bot-ov2hs he knows that’s why he’s commenting it to inform other people.

[@consaka1]

And which toxic material would that be?

[@astatine5781]

@@consaka1 asbestos and possibly radioactive material depending on how the aircraft carrier was powered.

[@l.bakker7563]

​@@astatine5781 Asbestos is safe as long it is not tampered with. The ship was powered by a conventional engine powering steam turbines which powered the driveshaft

[@thegunslinger8806]

This is fine, US Navy did this back in the day with the Oriskany and now it's a diving spot, plus it's underwater, it's no longer floating in the air and it's not gonna kill anyone.

[@johnnyrebel4real166]

"floating in the air""not gonna kill anyone" the most idiotic hippie statement ever

[@based854]

@@johnnyrebel4real166he’s referring to the asbestos, not the aircraft carrier, idiot.

[@highlander62-xf4uo]

Didnt the twin towers have same problem ?

[@vineleak7676]

It will become an artificial reef, a hotspot of biodiversity

[@brianbozo2447]

Not at 5000m! But as it degrades it will enter the foodchain. cancel that Lobster Bisque in Rio! I they could have keep it as a floating museum or hotel to recoup taxpayers money rather than just to throw it away!

[@TankswillRule]

@@brianbozo2447 its Brazil. The government is way beyond “retarded” levels.

[@yuri30027]

​@@brianbozo2447A ship with a history of problems.... So no, there was no other way to be operated on.

[@zee9709]

its too deep for a reef

[@vineleak7676]

@@zee9709 no it is not, it will be covered by deep sea sponges, crustaceans and molusks

[@kieferonline]

I wouldn't expect many people or animals would be breathing in asbestos dust when it's underwater.

[@gerharddeusser9103]

Gills

[@DarthGTB]

fish: am I a joke to you?

[@joetroutt7425]

Aww, that stuff is the best when snorting that white powdery stuff. I call it asbestoscain.

[@robbieroberts92]

So fish aren't animals now?

[@idontknowadam2744]

Fish ingest and then we eat fish. Not hard to grasp

[@ivannegrin137]

That's some ignorant government officials it it has asbestos and toxic materials now the ocean life will have a toxic ENVIRONMENT HOW STUPID AND IGNORANT ARE THESE PEOPLE.

[@Roni-kg1sw]

They scream at you for not helping the environment…so you make an artificial reef out of an aircraft carrier that will encourage natural and local sea life and coral…then they scream at you for that.

[@michalpupek5731]

Have these people HEARD of asbestosis? I’d have sunk it myself

[@Stoicswimfish]

Environmentalists are horrified by the controlled sinking meanwhile, environmentalists agitated to stop the ship from being sold for scrap or brought into harbor for remediation.

[@poucxs9246]

I think that environmentalists can only be happy once all electricity is produced by people on hometrainers.

[@ilo3456]

The question is if they did remove the Asbestos Lining from the ship in a yard before sinking it, because if not then eventually that Asbestos is going to find its way into the ocean

[@alexnaismith351]

@@ilo3456 then what about all the ww1 and ww2 ships with asbestos that sunk while active?

[@Stoicswimfish]

@@ilo3456 Kinda doubt that they did remove the asbestos. As I recall the reason that the ship was denied passage into the Mediterranean for scrapping was due to the presence of asbestos and that lead to the situation of it being stuck off shore until the scuttling.

[@PhoenixFires]

​@@alexnaismith351 Eventually all that asbestos will find its way through the foodchain, killing billions of creatures over the next century or two. But those were sunk during a time of war and when environmentalism wasn't that big a deal.

[@ossianx8752]

Funny how ‘environmentalists’ want mass immigration that causes more pollution, more sewage, more emissions and requires us to build houses and infrastructure all over nature yet they get upset over a tiny boat being sunk 350 miles offshore 🤣

[@Draconic9988]

People saing sao paulo its so funy

[@Eduardo-789]

O casco afundado não pertencia ao Brasil porque foi adquirido por uma empresa turca que o rebocou até a entrada do Mar Mediterrâneo. Tudo estava dentro da lei, mas as autoridades da Turquia mudaram de ideia por causa de protestos ecológicos da turma da Greta Thunberg e a empresa teve que rebocar o casco de volta ao Atlântico Sul. A empresa abandonou o casco à deriva em águas da zona econômica exclusiva do litoral do Brasil. O casco estava fraturado, a água invadia as galerias internas sem controle e a embarcação afundaria em menos de duas ou três semanas. A Marinha do Brasil fez o afundamento controlado do casco para não piorar a situação com outro desastre. O Brasil não era o proprietário do casco da embarcação que sua Marinha afundou.

[@MrCyclejay1967]

Then why did the narrator say that it belonged to Brazil?

[@agustinenzoa4447]

these things will always happen with a Socialist populist like Lula da Silva!! They are ECO TERRORISTS and very IRRESPONSIBLE!!! Nothing good is to be expected of your new government, I am so sorry.

[@KeepCalmSoldierOn]

People won't let it dock so they can remove the toxic materials. People get upset when they sink it since they can no longer afford it

[@Peakfreud]

People do jumping jacks Then Get upset when their ankles hurt. People finding hypocrisy in, people is always fascinating

[@denttech8447]

Waste of good steel

[@derekbaker777]

I don't care what it's full of you don't leave junk in our Ocean, and damage sea life. Humans need to be held accountable for all our actions.

[@systemsh0wd0wn]

"environmentalists": they could be completely stupid and have no idea what theyre talking about except regurgitating what someone on TV told them yet they all get classed together under this word as if they know what they are talking about.

[@stereotype.6377]

Wow you’re right! Who even knows if asbestos is harmful?!

[@kenetickups6146]

How's that deregulation going in ohio

[@Urbicide]

@@stereotype.6377 Asbestos is only harmful if it becomes airborne & you happen to inhale it. Working with asbestos requires a fitted respirator with P-100 rated filter cartridges.

[@zombiejelly4111]

@@stereotype.6377 asbestos is harmful when released into the air, also when a chemical reaction happens. But under water and at its depth it’s not gonna cause on lick of damage

[@mosel9665]

Those environmentalists have a higher degree than you and probably make more money ;) That's why they can afford it.

[@picupyourcross216]

if the environmentalist want it so bad let them go down there and get or they can shut because they didn't do anything for it when it was up besides complain.....

[@Aelxi]

Exactly.

[@antera1524]

So the government shouldn't do its job?

[@redalertsteve_]

@@antera1524 they did their jobs. But most of the public doesn’t understand what problems occur in these old ass ships. And tbh it’s getting ready annoying having to explain it all the time

[@picupyourcross216]

@@antera1524 what are you talking about? Go live there if want the government to work oh wait they don't shit crap here either besides give us inflation n crime

[@executioner5148]

@@redalertsteve_ do explain it

[@jeremytheexplorer4689]

those who said its environment crime. they are stupid. why? they're mad without giving another solution for the problem.

[@Realprogamer78649]

Warship again destroyed from eradicator mk IV💀

[@simonm1447]

The main problem is not the Asbestos (which is only a problem if you breath it in), the ship also contained long term poisonous stuff like PCB, a chemical nobody wants in the food chain. It was used in oils, for example transformer oil or special low flammable hydraulic oil. PCB belongs to the worst chemicals if they find their way into the environment. Ships sunk by the US as practise targets are stripped of such chemicals before they are used for targets

[@FunYl]

Of course it was removed

[@portrasdamascara8750]

This ship was out of service since 2012 soo no oil or hydraulic nothing more just the runaway was new refit in 2010

[@mike69er98]

It's not a crime. The amount of asbestos and other chemicals in that tiney, tiny aircraft carrier is nothing compared to the amount of water and currents that will dilute it. I don't like it but it will have zero, actually less than zero affect on the environment

[@wascallywabbit7102]

The road of life is littered with flat squirrels that couldn't make a decision. Due to flat squirrels in Brazil's government and military, dithering, the hazardous carrier Sao Paulo floated on the water for years, derelict. Someone showed leadership and made a decision. SALUTE! 👌

[@jamesbehrje4279]

Flat squirrels!!! We have those and Flat iguanas in Florida!!! 😆

[@alexandrehodgson6326]

It was sold to a Turkey company to dismantle the carrier and they knew about the abestos. When the carrier arrived in turkey they send it back to Brazil. The cheapest solution was to sink it.

[@SsourLemon]

Blud tried to be like battleship Texas on day💀💀💀💀

[@user-bp3po8uj4o]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@AngPur]

Asbestos is a mineral. It's only a hazard if frayed or disturbed. Putting back into the ground works for disposal, but sinking is a good secondary option.

[@Karma_mrcoolman]

At this pointvno matter what they do they will always someone who's gonna be like " wtf did u do. U just killed millions of people"

[@robert-kw5zc]

Why not!! Americans have done it😂

[@EdduVaz]

ver um bando de gringo Nutella querendo dar palpite ... vcs estão com problemas demais com imigrantes que estupram suas mulheres e suas leis não fazem nada, deixe nos com nossos problemas e cuidem dos seus!

[@LordBLB]

So... environmentalists don't want a new Coral Reef off the coast then? Because I'd say that's a boon to the environment, not harm... As long as the fuels and oils were removed, there's nothing wrong with this. It's great for sea life!

[@thecaynuck]

Did you watch the video? They sunk it because there was toxic materials onboard. When ships are sunk to make artificial reefs, they are cleared of any toxic materials so it doesn't harm the environment.

[@ilikecinema1234]

Don't you love when a cancer comes onto a beautiful planet and gets to decide what's good and what's not good for the life on the planet.

[@carbinationXptah]

​@@ilikecinema1234 don't u get it environmentalist don't want anything in the ocean and someone put a carrier full of toxic in the Atlantic ocean 😅 some people react when it's to late

[@ilikecinema1234]

@DawnHadu This aircraft carrier, whether it had toxic materials or not, is a small fraction of what has been done to this planet, don't you get it?

[@kauawolfbrpudin]

​@@carbinationXptah abaestus dont even harm the enviroment when on Water,its just dangerous when it is in the war,brazil is not dumb bro

[@SGT_Frost7715]

All of a sudden everyone became an asbestos scientist

[@tangent.arc38618]

Armchair researchers

[@benoitguillou3146]

On the other hand , REAL asbestos scientists in the 60s thought it was such an harmless substance they were seeing no harm in commercializing it ^^ But all in all , i agree with the utter annoyance of comment section improvised " experts " ...

[@jimothyj2638]

And they’re not mentioning the heavy metals

[@PSYCOTRONICS]

everyone on the internet instantly gains an bachelor's degree on a certain topic just to win an argument

[@guilhem3739]

@@PSYCOTRONICS Not everyone but some have a degree in geochemistry and mineralogy indeed.

[@stevaseezzy9980]

Why they didn’t let it float? Bring it somewhere in the middle of nowhere and let it there

[@eduardogasparian8233]

This was the scam.of the century. This aircraft carrier french to scrap yard. And the someone in the Brazilian navy or goverment had this brilliant idea of buying it for premium,sending to refit in france for another millions of dollars and sending it back to Brazil. It never left the port, fires, explosions etc And the people in the navy forgot that they didn't have airplanes to land on it . But someone got very rich

[@elijahaitaok8624]

"Hey we need to safely decomish this ship" "No! Don't park it here!" "OK I guess we'll sink it then." -Visible shock- Well they did try to do it safely

[@gmagma6907]

Está seguro. O amianto permanecerá no casco do navio, não é como o sal dissolvido na água. Tudo ficará onde está, mas em região segura, 5000 metros abaixo da linha d'água, 300 km da costa, sem afetar o meio ambiente. Isso foi estudado e autorizado pela autoridade ambiental. Muitas pessoas omitem essas informações, como forma de promover desinformação intencional a respeito do tema. Lamento pela má intenção dessas pessoas.

[@juangringo3906]

The bottom of the Ocean at that depth will work wonders on all that stuff. Especially the asbestos.

[@toxinomic3713]

Saying its an environmental crime really shows you how much people even care about the environment, in reality this thing has flourished with wildlife

[@IMDunn-oy9cd]

How many thousands of asbestos laden ships were sunk during WWII? So, this one is going to be a problem?

[@vesuv1u5]

Gringo trying to say São Paulo correctly (mission impossible). It's always fun when someone says "Saw Pawlow". Gotta love it.

[@MrDibara]

_Personally, I just feel frustrated._ :( Gringos NEVER remember São Paulo! It's always Rio, Rio and Rio, sometimes Brasília! _But us, Paulistas? We might as well be forgotten._ *>sad Vegeta music

[@Wabbaaajack]

An American pronouncing something in an American accent 😱

[@yungxxilax9194]

​@@Wabbaaajack"sawn pawulo"

[@marksnyder8022]

It was starting to act like the Admiral Kuznetsov. The Brazilians are kind enough to put the poor thing down.

[@TheHuffmanator]

She's still fit and operational...the hell are you on about?

[@nate0765]

​@@TheHuffmanator The Admiral Kuznetsov has a history of disasters and mishaps. Russia struggles to keep it functional let alone ready for deployment. When it is deployed it usually has a tugboat following because they don't trust that it'll make it home under its own power.

[@TheHuffmanator]

@@nate0765 ...that's the point bub...

[@NecroEddie]

i mean what were they supposed to do? send it to space?

[@2002S40]

Japan dumping their nuclear waste into Pacific. That is even worst disaster to the world.

[@brianbozo2447]

Payback for HIroshima and Nagasaki maybe!?

[@tomatosoupwoo]

Fukushima? You should check the radiation doses in the seawater around there, it’s terribly minuscule. “Kyle hill” has very good explanations on nuclear power and how it is generally safer than other forms of power. (Mainly just solar and wind is safer, but also less efficient)

[@endellion2066]

​@@tomatosoupwoo finally someone interested in nuclear power facts and not nuclear superstition. Indeed nuclear is one of the safest and cleanest energy sources available for mankind, people should inform themselves more before taking Hiroshima and Cernobyl as a standard example...

[@levismith7444]

@@endellion2066 but how do you know some countries won’t just dump their waste in the middle of the ocean at night?

[@endellion2066]

@@levismith7444 there's a strict control from the international nuclear department from Onu who make sure you don't do this, actually most radioactive vaste are just simple clothings and other tools used inside the powerplant but are not really dangerous as their radiation level is minimal, only 1% of all toxic waste is considered to be life-threatening and as such is stored in composed material containment chambers. It clearly can happen that some countries ditch their waste illegally but it's still gonna have a smaller impact on local wildlife than oil spreading in the sea or atmospheric pollution from gas powerplants. Oddly enough even tho modern generation of nuclear powerplants are regarded as the safest structures on earth they are still publicly viewed as dangerous and threat, makes no sense to me honestly.

[@vlademirbenevides9850]

Vários países adotam essa prática. Mais qdo o Brasil faz isso um monte de hipócritas metem o nariz....

[@kannonball5789]

Those countries also decontaminate their ships before scuttling them. The issue isn't that Brazil scuttled the São Paulo. The issue is that they left the asbestos in. Fuck off and stop being intentionally obtuse.

[@vlademirbenevides9850]

@@kannonball5789 vc acredita nisso. O seu pais afundou muito material bélico na costa de Miami, e vc acha que foi descontaminado......

[@LipeSun]

Pq deveriam ter várias outras formas de utilizar o navio ou outros países que poderiam talvez comprar ele mas o governo preferiu desperdiçar as chances só afunda-lo

[@zombiejelly4111]

@@LipeSun no and I mean no country wanted to buy the ship…is old really old, outdated and is full of cancer causing asbestos. The ship wasn’t even allowed to dock anywhere in the world so it was unsafe and useless.

[@roraimaball1947]

​@@LipeSun eles fizeram, venderam a uma companhia turca que iria desmontar o mesmo, porém por causa dos materiais químicos o mesmo foi barrado de entrar na Turquia e assim retornou ao Brasil para ser afundado visto que não teriam outras opções para o mesmo, ele já era uma carcaça velha e já estava desativado a anos, querer fazer qualquer coisa com ele custaria um dinheiro que em uma transição de governos não valeria a pena e seria facilmente engavetado, afundar o navio era a melhor opção visto que mantê-lo para uma eventual compra seria inviável.

[@leediaz5690]

They can turn it into a museum and get revenues out of it. Why waste it?

[@SocialistDistancing]

I think brizil just didn't want the cost of a proper decon.

[@rockapedra1130]

What I think is that this has been done many times by many countries. With varying degrees of abatement and a variety of narratives such as "artificial reef for the fishies".

[@JimmyKraktov]

No reef will be possible in 16 thousand feet of water.

[@beehappy3209]

At least the sea life now has its own ship to live in