Why British long-range missiles are on Ukraine's shopping list

Ukraine says it is prepared to use British long-range missiles - if they were supplied by the UK - to hit Russian forces inside Crimea.
It comes after Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said the UK would step up arms shipments to Kyiv - including discussions on sending Harpoon anti-ship missiles and Storm Shadow cruise missiles.
During President Zelensky's visit to the UK last week, he asked for fighter jets, as well as long-range missiles, to defend against the Russian invasion.
According to defence analyst Dr James Bosbotinis, the missiles would also be "ideal" for targeting Russian air and naval bases in Crimea.
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[@johnallen7807]

Since Russia has been using weapons fired from Russia/Russian airspace almost from day one Ukraine is perfectly entitled to hit back at them.

[@jezlanejl]

Not using British weapons, why should we pay for someone else's war?....

[@johnallen7807]

@@jezlanejl So you'd rather British soldiers were doing the fighting in 2 years time because that is what it will come to if Ukraine loses. I bet you would have said the same in 1939 when Hitler invaded Poland.

[@Superfandangoo]

@@johnallen7807 I was about to say the sane. If we had these naysers back then we have a Third Reich flag draped over Buckingham Palace now. Their grandparents woujd be disappointed in them

[@johnallen7807]

@@Superfandangoo As the saying goes "Freedom isn't "free"".

[@jezlanejl]

Yeah cos Hitler was going to fight nato, your metaphor is pathetic.

[@ionnanskilliorus6877]

Should have given Ukraine long range missiles about 6 months ago. Get it done already!

[@misterbig9025]

Who's paying for the missiles?

[@fablewalls]

@@misterbig9025 Russia. Anyhow, these are British missiles so you Trump/Farage supporters don't need to worry.

[@ionnanskilliorus6877]

@@misterbig9025 Russia will be paying for everything.

[@phlipyphlopy5597]

@@misterbig9025 Who's paying for Russian's missiles?

[@HowlinWilf13]

We needed to give Russia time to destroy its military stockpiles on the battlefield first!

[@fdk7014]

They might be expensive but they would only need a handful of them to hit strategic targets far behind the front. For example, permanently shutting down the Kerch bridge would be great!

[@tdolan500]

Yeah even the threat of them forces a doctrine change from Russia.

[@bigtony4829]

What happens when the Russians retaliate against our infrastructure ..Would be easy to sabotage the under sea cables or our internet . Eventually we will cross a redline and we are in. no position to back it up ...Thats the hard truth

[@tdolan500]

@@bigtony4829 they already are and have. Both before and during the invasion, their capacity for doing anything meaningful isn’t very high and we are much better at protecting ourselves.

[@FellaHAILIRA]

Unfortunately UK missiles and military hardware has been below bar in the Ukraine-Russia war. What we learn from this war is that Europeans over hype their weapons but in real battle field they are a big disappointment. Even Leo tanks were super flops in the Ukraine counter offensive and Europeans on the internet were full of military experts that claim nothing came close to Leo. Even SAAB's gripen were compared to Lockheed martins f-22 and Europeans debated that gripen were much much better than f-22 but when Ukraine happened, Saab refuses to sell their jets when before the war Saab was crying almost everyday, even agreeing to sell advanced IP to the buyer nations. Of all the weapon sent to Ukraine by UK including the famous and over hyped strom shadow missiles, challenger tanks, drones, brimstone missiles, starstreak missiles, rocket launchers and Stromer HVM. They were all big flops in the battle field. None of them really impacted the battle. Only the NLaw shined in the battle field. The NLaw to many surprises, over delivered on it capabilities. After reviewing the performance of UK military tech and hardware in Ukraine. It's safe to conclude that UK is no longer a military super power. UK military ranking must take at least minus 10 of their current military might ranking.

[@fdk7014]

@@FellaHAILIRA What utter nonsense, Ivan. Is this what Putin is paying you for? He should get a refund.

[@dnmurphy48]

Give them what they ask for to punish the murderers.

[@madserbz4912]

WE ARE PUNISHING THE MURDERS RIGHT NOW AND YOU AND YOUR KIND ARE ON THE AGENDA TOO

[@jezlanejl]

Why should we, we can barely heat ourselves....

[@daviecrocket9160]

Man you are blind, I hope you go to the front line.

[@WillHoward2002]

Bro we they would take everything we have if we let them. We are already struggling with our military and we are only making it worse.

[@stevem-h3562]

@@daviecrocket9160 too busy wanking himself off to Tour Of Duty.

[@jasonking6892]

More Business for UK 🇬🇧 and Ukraine 🇺🇦 👍

[@PedroSantos64]

I'd like to see Ukraine to force a safety ring along the border with defensive systems

[@misterbig9025]

with British taxpayers' money?

[@PedroSantos64]

@@misterbig9025 first of all it's not only British money that's been sent has an war effort. All countries across Europe are "sending" money. Second, there are 2 option. One, help Ukraine to defend themselves providing what they need and keep Russia away. Two, go and fight russians all over europe, including UK. Russia, since beginning of times has always wanted to be looked as an ocidental country bringing pharaonic amounts of money to ocident, like a peasant wanted to be accepted by high society and UK is one of the most desireable destination of them for very long years. Have they being well taxed and it will be their money we will be using.

[@geoffpj1]

@@misterbig9025 😂 😂 they can’t do it with all of NATO’s taxpayers money they should just ditch the USA and sue for peace whilst there’s any Ukraine left

[@welshdefenceforces]

@@misterbig9025 yes

[@Rjsjrjsjrjsj]

Well the UK seems pretty good at crossing Putzin's ridiculous lines so I'm optimistic. Maybe if they do this it'll light a fire under the US. 🤞

[@WilliamEvans-kh1gj]

Yes we do enjoy crossing putzin lol from 🇬🇧

[@worldtoday9244]

Ukraine 🇺🇦 needs storm shadow missiles now. 🇺🇦 🇬🇧 🇺🇸

[@William12Evans]

🇬🇧🇺🇦🇫🇷🇺🇲

[@Walterwaltraud]

Not sure if they can connect them to an adequate launch adapter (as the US did for the AGM-88), but 24 of those would blow up up to four segments each on the Crimea bridge. Add to that a blowout strike on all 5 - 8 airfields on crimea and some command centers and logistics hubs in one or two nights, and Britain will have almost fulfilled its obligation from the 1994 Budapest memorandum.

[@64wbryantex]

I would put it past the to launch these missiles from a fleet of DGI drones ;) But seriously Ukraine has a huge tech sector I'm sure the would figure something out.

[@FinsburyPhil]

If the Argentinians could get Exocet to work from the back of a trailer on the Falklands in 1982, then I suspect it won't be too difficult for the Ukranians to rig up something similar for Storm Shadow.

[@stephengilmore2741]

It really is essentially a case of rigging a Su-24 to be able to haul them up to altitude and within range - they're pre-programmed on the ground, so the pilot shouldn't need anything other than a weapon release function.

[@dartmoorukprisonstorys7516]

@@stephengilmore2741 is it that easy????

[@cliffordwebb3656]

The Exocets were dropped off Super Etendards, in fact. Les frogs will be trés miffed to hear you describe their aircraft as trailers. Where on earth does such an assertion come from?

[@MrSonofsonof]

@@cliffordwebb3656 HMS Glamorgan was hit and damaged by a surface launched Excocet. The missile had been removed from an Argentine ship, transported to the islands, and then fired from an improvised launcher.

[@cliffordwebb3656]

@@MrSonofsonof I did not know there were so many variants of the same basic missile. I see there's even a submarine version that is initially carried within a torpedo. I still doubt that Storm Shadow can be catapulted into action.

[@Bouncerboy33]

Storm Shadow will be great for taking out the Crimean bridge.

[@Thetequilashooter1]

Nice job UK! I am glad you guys are a U.S. ally. 🇺🇸 🇬🇧 🇺🇦

[@Senny_sen]

Why has the UK put themselves on Russia nuclear target? Where is the US long range missiles?

[@Thetequilashooter1]

@@Senny_sen You don’t think that the US’s providing more equipment than all other nations combined, and that the US provides intel to Ukraine on precisely what to target doesn’t put the US in Russia’s crosshairs? I suggest that you watch some Russian propaganda shows and see all the hatred directed towards the US.

[@tonyharrison2112]

seeing as it's pre-programmed before flight getting the stormshadow up and working on soviet designed Ukrainian jets should be less of an issue. Some custom fabrication work and some electronic work should be all that's needed.

[@alexandertubbs5995]

the thing is harpoon cost nothing as they are paid for and are being taken out of service thus giving them to ukraine is a no brainer

[@angusabbott5615]

Ukraine has proved itself as able to keep its word on NOT using NATO donated weapons against targets in ruZZia and Crimea is Ukraine

[@eraldorh]

Given that storm shadow is programmed before launch id imagine it can be rigged to fire from almost anything as it sounds like theres minimal interface with the aircraft itself. Just need a launch platform rigged or a wing mount for the mig-29 top hold it.

[@saltmerchant749]

Unless we plan to use the possibility of giving them as a bargaining chip in negotiations, then we should provide them, but do so in secret. If debris is photographed "ah right, yeah, some guy from the MOD sent the wrong shipping container."

[@tomsoki5738]

Utterly ridiculous, you don't just accidentally send cruise missiles that are restricted under treaties Britain has signed. There are ones we quite literally are unable to send legally, we have to alter them or make new ones with a shorter range. If we send them we want to be loud and proud about it to encourage others to do the same, give the Ukrainian people more reasons to like Britain and scare Russia.

[@MrTravbad]

ahh the russian defence .... we know nothing .. its not ours

[@saltmerchant749]

@@tomsoki5738 A delay in Russia becoming aware of Ukrainian capability could make all the difference in the world. Look at the Moskva, Russia had no idea that Ukraine possessed the capability to strike it and it cost them their flagship.

[@funksoulbrother3620]

Great news for the arms manufacturers

[@user-zh9kc7tw4n]

Could the UK get the old Tornados flying and deliver them to Ukraine or have they been destroyed?

[@tdolan500]

Doesn’t seem viable, would be next to impossible to bring whatever is left back into service then there is the added complications of training crews and providing maintenance parts. Same story for the Tranche 1 Typhoons and they would be quite limited in their capabilities.

[@danielwhyatt3278]

We could actually send the Tornadoes over. We are still flying them alongside the F 35s so we could give some to Ukraine if training has already started. Just out with the challenger to it could be a good pusher to get others to give the F 16s.

[@tdolan500]

@@danielwhyatt3278 have a source on Tornadoes still being in service?

[@stephengilmore2741]

@@danielwhyatt3278 Where are you getting the idea that Tornadoes are still flying? As far as I know, not a single one has flown since that last sad flight. They are gone. Either to museums or to scrap.

[@RJ-xv1nh]

@@stephengilmore2741 Didn't they go to Germany for spares ?

[@wda_digital]

Yes please. I so wish Ukraine could send a couple of them straight into the kremlin. What a sight that would be.

[@w.d.g.]

nice shopping list

[@nietkees6906]

Storm Shadow is not ideal, ATACMS would be better but the US doesn't want to give them.

[@Adryfierce]

Finally Storm shadow cruise missile is going to Ukraine 💥

[@gedog77]

If we can’t launch it ourselves then why wouldn’t we send it. Escalation is now moot. Give them everything.

[@bigtony4829]

it can still escalate a lot further ...If Russia was forced out of Crimea for example you better hope you have a bunker handy

[@gedog77]

@@bigtony4829 The open discussion of long range precision fires is exactly to achieve that outcome. I do agree that we are talking about someone who will press the button. But giving in is no way forward.

[@bigtony4829]

@@gedog77 SO you agree he will press the button but you still think escalating to a nuclear war over what is basically a slav civil war is worth it ? Honestly as a father and grandfather Id rather see Russia take the whole of Ukraine rather than see the world go up in flames .. Im not sure our morally corrupt system as it stands is worth fighting for anyway we seem to have thrown away our traditions and culture and values on the alter of globalism

[@ivancho5854]

​@@bigtony4829Crimea will become a big PoW camp for Russians! 🤣 I can smell a Russian troll. When you get conscripted will you go to the front or hide in Siberia? 🌻💀🌻 Slava Ukraine. 🇺🇦🇬🇧

[@bigtony4829]

@@ivancho5854 If I get drafted it will be bad news for the Uk mate im a long retired pretty officer in the RN ..if they need me its not going well 😃

[@LI6FE]

Do it and stop talking about doing it.

[@paulbarrett9951]

Shame we scraped the tornados . Giving them the typhoon jet isn't as easy as people think. It take years to learn how to fight that jet properly. And we don't have an endless supply. But the USA has 1000s of jets sat in the bone yard that could be reactivated

[@gaius_enceladus]

Let's GET them there! Just DO it!

[@diagorosmelos3187]

That's a good missile for the next stage of the war. Hitting supplies deep inside Russian lines. That should create a few shocked Orc faces! I know its a joint venture between British BAe and French Matra but the Brit one has the war heads, the French one the submunitions which would be no good on hard targets. It was very effective in Syria and Iraq so its a battle proven weapon. The two companies have split now covering this contract so the Brits don't need to get permission from France to use it. Which is good!

[@Sam-hu3cw]

The things is Russia is not iraq or Syria You hits ones they will hits twice ;)

[@colinjames2346]

'Orc faces' ...This channel seems to Incite overtly racist views.

[@Markdmarque]

UK is only good at fighting 3rd world countries..this is Russia and they are very capable. USA and UK tactic was to carpet bomb a country before sending in troops to save on troop casualties. This is the only tactic they know and consequently using Ukrainian troops to fight their proxy war

[@Sam-hu3cw]

@karmakazi yea ofcourse we don't we want Ukranian strays missile hits random polish farmer would we ??

[@akunamatata4266]

Maybe people should actually look at journalist on the field talking how Ukrainian soldier are raping killing innocent people and bombing civilian apartment and pretend it’s the Russian. You guys still don’t get it , those ukro nazis hate Russian because they lost the ww2 to them and because most of the fight is getting done in the russophone territories of ukraine they don’t care above those civilians lives.

[@terrytumble162]

Opening line is misleading - “US-supplied HIMARS missiles”. Various countries including Britain have supplied GMLRS which can be fired by either HIMARS or M270 variants.

[@danimayb]

It's not misleading, They do have US supplied HIMARS launchers and missiles.. Many more than similar systems given by any other country.

[@bagdaduk]

It's simple, bring the old Tornadoes out of retirement, maybe 12 of the 50 and use the rest for spare parts. Then equipment them with Stormshadow and brimstone!! Jobs a gooden

[@1chish]

Far too logical for the MoD mate .... But the Tonkas would be a brilliant low level ground attack asset for the Ukrainians. Not too good at air defence but they have MiGs for that.

[@bagdaduk]

@@1chish yep, you could definitely say goodbye to that Crimean Bridge with a Tonka and stormshadow

[@diagorosmelos3187]

I agree. We've gone way too high tech recently. Proven tough weapons like the Tornado to do the dirty jobs, and 9 F35's sitting on an aircraft carrier while slowly bankrupting the nation to please the media.

[@GonzoTehGreat]

You can't "bring them out of retirement" unless they were put into storage...

[@bagdaduk]

@@GonzoTehGreat I believe they were in storage

[@FancyPantsOnFire]

The how they will employ storm shadow is what interests me most. Came here for that and to their credit they mentioned it. The mig29 and su27s in Ukrainian service had agm88s jerryrigged to them so perhaps storm shadow as well. But like HARM in a poor man’s way. No interface with the aircrafts avionics

[@notchmasaimara5031]

Whatever destroys Russia

[@Retrosicotte]

The footage you used for Harpoon is not Harpoon...

[@steveh5005]

Get a frigging move on then.

[@georgegeorgakopoulos5956]

In Forces News we trust

[@misterbig9025]

It's propaganda

[@stc3145]

@@misterbig9025 No

[@notreally2406]

​@@stc3145 🤣🙄

[@stc3145]

@@notreally2406 Your emotes make you seem like a little child.

[@JackKing12.]

Shopping list has to be paid. The UK might just want Ukraine for themselves.

[@ataxpayer723]

I read online that the UK wants Ukraine. UK will then forcibly move all internet trolls from UK soil and they will have to live in Ukraine.

[@WilliamEvans-py4gq]

Ukraine would be safe

[@chrisrowland1514]

With all the AA missiles in Ukraine I think Planes is actually not worth it but longer range missiles like these , most definitely yes

[@rufuscollis303]

Business is booming.💪

[@northernskys]

Do it. Give Ukraine what they need to defeat these murdering barbarians, and bring this war to a successful end, for Ukraine and the World.

[@ptonpc]

Ukraine is entitled to strike back. Give Ukraine whatever it needs.

[@juanvargas174]

If China and Iran help USSR then it's all fair game We might as well send everything they need to finish this once and for all .

[@justonecornetto80]

If it comes to that, give Ukraine some nukes. After all, it was Russia that violated the Budapest memorandum.

[@annoyed707]

In other news, Russians still have logistics to disrupt.

[@aaronzulu8706]

The strength of of a soldier is a weapon, so this war will go on and on, we plead for Russia to end this war to save lives of people.

[@richbrown9690]

I mean they are not buying them from us so you should call it a Donation list..

[@SweetScience93]

2 million a go. Are u sure?

[@TheDenzil187]

£790.000 don't where they got 2 million from

[@darrenfrith4241]

Charity starts at home

[@brianstent1610]

Why Crimea, hit Russia in the heart

[@polishtruth2058]

A Shopping List? Show me the money. O I forgot he's a begger.

[@MightyJosh1985]

Yea. Let’s see how Russian apartment buildings like missiles

[@Mike-iv3hy]

I say give it to them !

[@notreally2406]

...because the US gave them $100b

[@polishtruth2058]

The Brits can't supply there own. But of course they figure there untouchable. I wonder what happens if Ukraine doesn't succeed.

[@weeddegree]

Do you know how much money the uk makes?

[@NoelyBob]

Just means Russia will have to take more of Ukraine

[@grahamthebaronhesketh.]

Buy shares in Storm shadow now!

[@jonathanbowen3640]

MBDA are not publicly listed though you could buy shares in its shareholders i.e. Airbus (37.5%), BAE Systems (37.5%) and Leonardo (25%).

[@Harrysound]

They can write my name on the side of one of them if they want

[@jordanhughes227]

Shopping list ? 😂 there getting them free which is utter madness we don’t have enough stock to supply our own army !!!

[@IAm-NotHear]

Vasya?

[@scratchy996]

Look at it this way : you give it to Ukraine now, so you don't have to use them against Russia later.

[@Xenophaige_reads]

Who are we likely to use them against currently? Our current build up (if it can be called that) is anti Russian, so Ukraine holding the Russian military attention does the same job as us going, "Look we have weapons don't attack." Which is what strategic build up is.

[@lynx8437]

They are not getting them for free, its similar to what we had going on with the US in WW2. They are on loan.

[@hc-nj3ve]

Literally using these missiles for what they're meant for without a single British soul at risk when firing them. Who do you think these weapons were developed to counter?

[@jrsixowfour8674]

Looks like this has already been used on Russia Good job

[@chrismitchell4622]

Great news supply the aircraft to Ukraine for launching the missiles

[@nizmando]

DONATING LOL Ukraine will be in debt with US and UK FOREVER

[@MultiDrew83]

What did the UK do with the Tornado airframes ?? Are there any still flying at all ??

[@thorley1969]

None left that are combat capable. Most have been broken up and of those that remain intact are either gate guards or in museums.

[@GonzoTehGreat]

The RAF retired the Tornado in 2019, but the Luftwaffe are still using it, so potentially could donate some to Ukraine, as it will soon be replaced by the F-35A. Italy also still operates it. The German version would also be more useful to Ukraine as they mostly have the strike (IDS) and EW (ECR) variants, while the UK had a mix of ADV (for air defence) and IDS.

[@MultiDrew83]

@@GonzoTehGreat Yes, this is a good point...

[@justonecornetto80]

@@GonzoTehGreat I believe the RAF still have some in service being used as trainers.

[@GonzoTehGreat]

@@justonecornetto80 No, they don't.

[@daviecrocket9160]

Can someone fire one of these into my back garden next winter ❄️

[@ataxpayer723]

Of course, Please advise your address and make sure that your cat is inside the house.

[@ezeganzagan4173]

NATO unspoken message to Russia is Green..

[@paulfrancis3237]

Escalation of deadler arms supply seems inevitable until ..what? 1) Russia's voluntary withdrawal - unlikely 2) Conventional defeat of Russia in the occupied territories - possible 3) Total world war - possible. The desirable end game needs to be somewhere in the middle of these scenarios ..

[@fdk7014]

Russia is going to have to withdraw eventually. They cannot sustain this war forever. That might happen before or after Putin is taken out by his own people but I'm sure that will happen.

[@marcopalazzo9349]

Won't be a world war with Russia only a nuclear war. Russia doesn't have the means to fight a world war, they can't even take a town in Ukraine and you think they can fight a world war?

[@EpicCrust]

Why would russian forces getting routed cause a total world war? You’re giving russia too much credit, it’s basically Nigeria with snow

[@stephengilmore2741]

Complete nonsense. What is this 'world' war you're talking about? Who is coming to help Russia? How would that even start? You really think Russia has the forces to attempt to invade a NATO country now? Their Kaliningrad garrison is now barebones because most have been transferred to the 'special operation'. There needs to come a point where we stop giving the Russians so much military credit. They have one strength left - nuclear weapons. And China isn't going to let them use it.

[@EpicCrust]

@@ChrisL-d4c & no strategic purpose apart from being a deterrent, russia is basically a vassal state of China and they wont let them. Also they know what would happen if they did, conventionally they would get anhilated and they know it.

[@biddyboy1570]

Orcs out.

[@Tullzter]

I wonder if Storm Shadow export needs French approval since they are the builders of the thing

[@Mike-ew8nj]

It's french and British built. British version is called storm shadow

[@1chish]

Well not exactly TD. It is built by MBDA which is a mostly British business. MBDA is a joint venture of Airbus, BAE Systems and Leonardo UK. British Storm Shadows are built here in the UK and the French SCALP version in France.

[@diagorosmelos3187]

No they don't. It was a joint venture of UK and France to design it, but its built by a multi national company of UK, France and Italy, but cant remember its name. It has no bilateral agreement about needing permission to use it or sell it.

[@noke258]

Lol since when is british storm shadow missiles built by the french?

[@1chish]

@@noke258 Since never dude. Scroll up and read what was actually written. No? OK well if that is too much trouble: "British Storm Shadows are built here in the UK and the French SCALP version in France" Do keep up .. 🤣🤣 "LOL"

[@ajalvarez1387]

Hopefully British storm shadow missiles destroy hidden Putin bunkers!🤪🔫

[@John_Hemingway]

Worth noting, Storm Shadow is not stealthy, it does however incorporate some low observable features.

[@korma9732]

Bye bye

[@B-A-L]

As long as they pay for them then let them have everything they want.

[@justonecornetto80]

So you`re saying that we should exploit a desperate and destitute country that is having its innocent civilians butchered in the name of an egotistical psychopath?

[@commodorce6431]

U can’t forget while it’s good Britain is supplying the Ukrainians with missiles, it also means we’re draining our what already seemed to be depleted stocks

[@MrSonofsonof]

It does mean though that they are being used for the purpose for which they were built - stopping the expansion of Moscow's barbarian horde.

[@shmookins]

I don't think any country would compromised its own security by giving away too much weapons. It is an advantage to have so many countries supporting Ukraine in this regard as they can all share the collective support. Having said that, the West needs to ramp up production. Wartime is no time to stay relaxed. The good news is multiple countries have upped their defense budgets (including Japan). It will take years for the effects to show, but the wheels have started turning.

[@commodorce6431]

@@shmookins ur first sentence tho I do believe there is one country. Britain think about it there have been pledges to cut active manpower to 72,500, and I don’t see the great Ben Wallace saying we’re going to stop cuts and increase our overall armed forces (that includes the Army, RAF, RN Royal Navy less so but yeah). Instead I see a crumbling military that can’t purchase the needed modern weaponry it so desperately needs (like Ajax for example, heck even challenger 3 only 148!). And to further reiterate how destroyed U.Ks armed forces are…I’m sure u already aware of this but a EX army general from the U.S.A stated that we as a fighting force are barely a 2nd tier fighting force.

[@NhatHuyNg]

please use your two brain cells for 1 second. Fighting russians is exactly the reason UK weapons are made for. One more russian tank destroyed in Ukraine is one less tank UK armed force has to worry about. Do you prefer to fight russians on Ukranie soil or on your own soil?

[@commodorce6431]

@@NhatHuyNg Ukrainian soil but why the insult at the beginning

[@C0mmander]

What isn't on their list? ;-)

[@TheSalamander_]

Russians

[@1ndragunawan]

Nukes, Aircraft carrier, submarines, strategic bomber, Stealth fighters

[@d.o.g573]

You

[@twaylan]

Your land.

[@terryb8310]

And yet the HMS QE sails around empty of kit and planned canons !

[@ptonpc]

One does not equate to the other.

[@chessiny7882]

Shopping list? Wishlist is more like it or beglist

[@mac2626]

Some other nation should be giving these weapons for a change, instead of the U.K. being first to lead the way all the time.

[@misterbig9025]

It is more ideal for UK to help Turkish earthquake victims rather than Ukraine! Turkey is a member of NATO!

[@benmurphy7016]

Uk are helping Turkish victims

[@danwarsaw1009]

Beggars have big shopping list.

[@Anonymous-it6hu]

Those 'beggars' are a lot braver and more heroic than loudmouth keyboard warriors like you.They fight against Russian aggression and that's also in the best interest of the rest of western Europe. I gladly contribute as a taxpayer when needed.

[@nunyabiznizz9505]

@@Anonymous-it6hu speak for yourself

[@Anonymous-it6hu]

@@nunyabiznizz9505 I just did, didn't I?

[@nunyabiznizz9505]

@@Anonymous-it6hu the vast majority of the british population don't agree with your sentiment

[@Anonymous-it6hu]

@@nunyabiznizz9505 what are you? Mr. National Survey? You ≠ the vast majority.

[@Sam-hu3cw]

Another season we are not a part of this conflict~western warmagore government

[@jezlanejl]

We shouldn't be paying for someone else's war when people are literally visiting foodbanks here....

[@1chish]

People were in to food banks when Tony Blair was PM . But if anything is free they will use it.

[@MrSonofsonof]

Don't say "we". You're Russian.

[@WillHoward2002]

@@MrSonofsonof Lol you think putting our own country first makes him Russian?

[@MrSonofsonof]

@@WillHoward2002 Him using arguments that come directly from the How to Troll manual, makes him Russian. And like it or not, it is our war. Remember what Churchill said "You had a choice between war and dishonour. You chose dishonour, and you will have war". Russia is like a cancer that never stops spreading until it gets a kicking. It's better that our weapons deliver that kicking in Ukraine than at the Channel.

[@jezlanejl]

@@MrSonofsonof If you weren't so ignorant you would check my profile, Im British through and through, in fact my Profile picture is the sally gate in Portsmouth that Nelson walked through b4 boarding the HMS Victory.... Everyday i have to see a Destroyer just parked in the Solent because we could now be attacked at any moment by the Russians.

[@maxjamieson3341]

It's a bad idea sending such advanced weapons designed to defend our own country to a active warzone without our troops being in control of it and safeguarding it from being reverse engineered

[@frankrenda2519]

russians dont reverse engineer missiles that are decades behind in tech compared to russian tech

[@CarShopping101]

Wrong

[@BLKMMEDIA]

no mony for teacher or nurses. but plenty for a criminal. shame on the uk. this is not our war!

[@ataxpayer723]

it will be your war after Russian invades Poland and Blackpool.

[@funkylee2010]

The British people needs a big say in this spending and sending our paid for army machines and technology of the cost to many British people who are struggling to pay for electricity and food and gas. Only the tax payers will always pay for this nonsense Iraq Afghanistan now Russia 🤦‍♂️

[@Andyb2379]

Let him have it. Not Zelenskyy or do I mean puntin? Wait what ? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@donxz2555]

Please give the Russians Ajax The dodgy deal where we have to pay 1.4 BILLION for trash

[@daveo8480]

Love a bit of escalation in the morning .. yay for war ..

[@bigtony4829]

Yeah everyone seems champing at the bit to get us into WW3 ... Our Army fits into Old Trafford our navy is 6 destroyers all that need refits and two carriers with half aircraft needed and a few top line subs Our type 26 frigate is taking 10 years to build and our new armoured personnel carriers are 4 billion in a hole and not battle ready We have no civil defence shelters and our population thinks being prepared for power and food outages is having The giant Panda takeaway on speed dial Seriously I wish folks would wake up we aren't 1939 Britain anymore ...We wouldn't last a week in a Ukraine style war and I dont think America would fair much better

[@frankrenda2519]

is this a joke nato cant even supply enough ammo

[@frankrenda2519]

@karmakazi nato is saying this stupid

[@StewartEvans52]

Shopping list,you word that as if Ukraine will be paying for them,but in reality we all know Rishi will continue giving away our arsenal,or maybe they will buy them with UK tax payers money that they have already been given

[@Retrosicotte]

And so he should. Exploiting Ukraine is not how we should do it.

[@David-xh9cw]

They're very welcome to it.

[@henryvagincourt4502]

If we don't help Ukraine now, we will all be paying a far higher price later mucker.

[@orcho141]

they're defeating a facist adversary so we don't have to, it's the very least we can do

[@MrSonofsonof]

Stop saying "we". Everyone knows you're a Russian Troll.

[@blackdow9581]

Surprised British armed forces have anything left in stores to give

[@MultiDrew83]

The west as a whole need to get their production lines going full speed asap!!

[@CimonSowel1]

​@@MultiDrew83 good ole war profiteering

[@russellmarmon2847]

Uk has a huge stockpile of all types of missiles and armaments do your research.

[@MultiDrew83]

@@russellmarmon2847 not that huge mate, pretty modest amounts to be honest...

[@Markdmarque]

​@@russellmarmon2847wrong...It does not have enough as Ukraine is firing artillery shells at a phenomenonal rate which is unsustainable. Russia has huge amounts which the west denied it had but it has proven to be firing constantly into Ukrainian defences with little resistance now

[@Waterford1992]

Hopefully Russia will use its missiles in retaliation

[@twaylan]

Pour another round Botsky

[@XTSu-sl1bb]

Next month Ukraine will ask for nuclear weapons 😂

[@adelbertantonio2937]

Had Ukraine did not give up its nukes it would have been a war deterrent against the evil regime’s ambition to invade Ukraine!

[@cj-sb5eu]

They should never have gotten rid of their own.

[@ivancho5854]

Hey, that sounds like a great idea. 👍 It sure would put the fear of God into Putin. Slava Ukraine. 🇺🇦🇬🇧

[@willieboy1297]

I got a shopping list can we have our money back

[@samuelngugi2539]

When stupidity prevails over wisdom They can fire 1,2,3 from their charity basket abundance, how many will Russia respond with, 🤔🤔🤔 . learn from Crimea bridge attack, what did that do to Ukraine???

[@bigtony4829]

Turned the lights out ..

[@TheInzamamulHoque]

*Rishi Sunak is driving the UK's economy into the ground, with the never-before-seen inflation, unable to pay the NHS workers and various government employees, and now depleting the already malnourished UK armed forces. This man, Rishi Sunak must step down at the earliest. The next Prime Minister should focus and prioritize on making UK's armed forces the strongest in Europe and start buying the Eurofighter Typhoon Tranche 4 variant.*

[@michaelprobert4014]

You mean he should build up the army and not pay the NHS workers?

[@TheInzamamulHoque]

@@michaelprobert4014 yes he has to. Building up the UK economy and helping the citizens is what he should do first. Next he should focus on the UK military. And he has to minimize the military aids being given to Ukraine since, it is creating pressure on its own armed forces since the UK military don't get enough military budget for it's kind.

[@1chish]

Would this be the economy that has just produced a massive surplus in January, with business optimism at a 12 month high, the pound gaining against the Euro and Dollar and the FTSE100 at an all time high? And of course I am sure a 2 year pandemic, its economic fallout and a war in Europe have had absolutely no affect on our economy whatsoever ..... 🙄🙄

[@TheInzamamulHoque]

@@michaelprobert4014 Also Russia is always keeping UK under constant pressure and threats. If UK had a truly sustainable armed force with adequate annual military budget and adequate military spending than Russia wouldn't have provoked UK with constant threats of attacking London. The United Kingdom needs a much larger armed force than it currently has now. And the British Prime Minister has to ensure the security of its citizens from outside threats. Of course paying the government employees and building the economy comes first, but developing the armed forces to achieve the capability to combat all kinds of enemy nations is EQUALLY IMPORTANT.

[@TheInzamamulHoque]

@@1chish then why are the NHS employees and the government employees and their pay issues are making the headlines. If you cannot help the economy and your countrymen, step down and make path for the new man.

[@paulpaisley5291]

What would happen if they fired back.

[@SteveInsidious]

Maybe because they're free? The Ukrainian ponce loves a freebee.

[@MLVL312]

Here the Bot again😅

[@user_1927]

It's good news, but whos gonna paid for all of that ?

[@jonathanbowen3640]

They are already paid for.

[@notreally2406]

The US?

[@coochieman1602]

shopping list, as if the britain dont pay for almost everything the ukraine "bought"

[@bendjohans3863]

stop it damn it first weapons than amunition than troop carrier vehiclle than howizers and long range artillery now tanks which is already faar too much now long range rockets? whats next ? fighter jets submarines or atomic weapons stop sending arms and start talks NOW

[@umu8934]

NATO members are really expert in escalating tensions and wars 😹😹😹😹 instead of helping negotiating and accepting what's lost and salvaging what's left to rebuild the nation from ruins

[@gintasindreika933]

We will never accept Russian occupation of Ukrainian territory. Putin never negotiated in good faith.

[@MrSonofsonof]

Isn't it awful? We should have negotiated with the Nazis in 1940, and just accepted their peaceful occupation of Europe. The Russians are the new Nazis.

[@WillHoward2002]

Yup but it would be pointless mate it's clear Russia by Russia being on the borders of all other Eastern European countries that they are trying to bring back the Soviet Union.

[@trevorhart545]

Russia CREATED the problem by its Illegal Land Grab, Deliberate Targeting of Civilian and Purely Civilian Infrastructure. Only Putin fans would suggest your comment. Q Why should anyone accept a "loss" from Naked Aggression from a Dictator?

[@BigBoomOfDoom2]

Are you serious? Accepting what's lost... Would any other nation just accept this, or would they fight back. They should fight for their home and win their freedom. NO ONE made Putin attack Ukraine, no one. This is NOT Ukraine's fault and they shouldn't just have to give up because you find it simpler. Maybe we should take your stuff from your home and you can just "accept what's lost".

[@samuelngugi2539]

Jordan Peterson must have been a prophet, he said something, what does Ukraine winning mean, Ukraine in rubles??? Nobody cared to listen to such kind of analysis, its getting there. I can predict this today, no prophecy needed, when the 1st missiles of this kind shall hit Crimea, Ukrainians Should vacate kyiv immediately. There would be a government and Ukraine after the political regimes are gone. Live to see those days. Peace, I hope this war ends soonest.

[@pottierkurt1702]

Useless without western planes so irrelevant

[@jonathanbowen3640]

Probably not impossible to launch them From Ukraines aircraft with a bit of modification.