Why Buying a Laptop SUCKS

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Just Josh

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@JustJoshTech
@JustJoshTech 7 ай бұрын
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@kenansadhuvideos
@kenansadhuvideos Жыл бұрын
"Designed to be sold, not to be used." That captures our feelings as the buyers perfectly. Thank you!
@OurgasmComrade
@OurgasmComrade Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the goal of late stage capitalism 🙃. Also hampers the right to repair movement.
@mutedmutiny9542
@mutedmutiny9542 Жыл бұрын
It’s not the best way of putting it because the machines will still work just fine, so saying they’re not made to be used is very misleading, but I guess saying “not optimized around use” isn’t quite as succinct. The reality is that even if you get a machine that is more spec’ed out than you need even to the point that you end up sacrificing some performance, most people aren’t going to notice, so the worst thing that happens is they spend more money than they had to. Caveat emptor.
@loowick4074
@loowick4074 Жыл бұрын
@@mutedmutiny9542 I mean alot of modern laptops aren't more unusable than their older counterparts. Sure you had easily replaceable batteries and what not back then. But the price to performance is absolutely garbage compared to today's machines.
@GuantaiN
@GuantaiN Жыл бұрын
Companies used to try their best coz even my computers and other devices used to last for at least 5 years. But recent changes from many companies have made devices so disposable that my SO has replaced her devices (phones, laptops and smart-bands/watches) more than I care to keep track.
@culan_SCP
@culan_SCP Жыл бұрын
@@loowick4074true, who is going to use a 5 year old laptop now, after using a laptop for such a long time, just upgrade to a new one. Because the main components are too old
@tvthecat
@tvthecat Жыл бұрын
We need to get this channel a lot more popular, folks. Josh said nothing but the truth here. We need the companies to notice the problems mentioned in the video.
@JustJoshTech
@JustJoshTech Жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps for that! Yes would be nice
@hugeta3769
@hugeta3769 Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with you.
@gluttonousmaximus9048
@gluttonousmaximus9048 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, as the saying goes, no snowflake can ever be innocent of the final avalanche. We're all part of the problem. Yes, even the non-consumers.
@JustaDavid123
@JustaDavid123 Жыл бұрын
True
@Nasumbati
@Nasumbati Жыл бұрын
Seriously agree. He is worth some bitcoin
@ConsciousSonder
@ConsciousSonder Жыл бұрын
Honestly after 6 years in DIY PC building, shopping for a laptop this past week was super stressful. The industry wide tactics are really, at their worst, consumer rights abuses. Especially pre-installed virus stuff and the confusion around performance expectations.
@JaradS99
@JaradS99 7 ай бұрын
Exactly this, wish I could build a Laptop in the same way I built my PC 😂
@CraftySouthpaw
@CraftySouthpaw Жыл бұрын
Buying a new laptop (or computer in general) used to be so much simpler because _newer_ almost automatically meant _better._ 8 years ago, I bought a new ASUS with 8 GB RAM, 1 TB storage, and 1920x1080 max res for a base cost of only $650. 7 years before that, I paid slightly _more_ for a Dell Vostro with probably half the RAM, a _fraction_ of the storage, and _lower_ res. That's EXACTLY the way technology is supposed to progress - devices become both better AND more affordable as the technology improves and becomes more widespread. I recently set about searching for a new laptop (my 8-year-old ASUS still functions adequately, but its exterior is badly cracked), and I was baffled and infuriated by what I saw. Like this video says, everything seems so needlessly confusing and convoluted now as compared to just a few years ago. Now laptops are designed for specific purposes (i.e.: business, school, gaming) and are overly focused on certain features while being grossly deficient in others. But what infuriates me most of all is that many laptops in or near the price range of my current one actually have _inferior_ specs (i.e.: less storage space or lower res). That's absolutely INEXCUSABLE - something that could be purchased for $650 8 years ago should be STANDARD on any laptop in that price range nowadays. It's as if the manufacturers are deliberately and needlessly undercutting the specs on low/mid-price laptops to dissuade you from buying them and pressure you into buying a much more expensive one with a bunch of bloated specs that you don't actually need.
@siyzerix
@siyzerix Жыл бұрын
There's literally $650 gaming laptops packing a 6 core CPU and a rtx 3050. And $750 ones pack an 8 core CPU and a 6gb rtx 4050. With $850 ones having a 4060. And where exactly would gaming laptops lag? Even ryzen models get decent battery life and performance is quite a bit better on them nowadays.
@siyzerix
@siyzerix 11 ай бұрын
@@user-hliudpn On the US amazon site
@TravellingTechie
@TravellingTechie Жыл бұрын
On the repair front I've gone Framework with my laptop. Their announcement yesterday for a 16in laptop with a modular discrete graphics card that can be upgraded/repaired is a game changer for me.
@mutedmutiny9542
@mutedmutiny9542 Жыл бұрын
I love what framework is doing and I hope they continue and have a lot of success in the market. Obviously we can’t just mine the earth forever to keep making products that we just throw out, so a company like that is really needed and I applaud their efforts and forward thinking.
@-Retired-
@-Retired- Жыл бұрын
It's a shame they aren't available in my country. I need one of em :')
@gersongaete1574
@gersongaete1574 Жыл бұрын
@@-Retired- you can import it. As long as your taxes arent that high. Im from south america and i only pay 10% extra to the final cost to bring it here. I buy from the US, or anywhere in the world really.
@sgateman1
@sgateman1 Жыл бұрын
Another plus one for framework!
@meppeorga
@meppeorga Жыл бұрын
I really want that 16 inch framework it will be hard to get in europe tho 😥
@MyronZhao
@MyronZhao Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of your points for the average 90% of consumers, but there are those who are tech enthusiasts and hardcore gamers who would like to know how the new CPUs and GPUs perform before purchase. One thing we would like to see for consumers are more reviews for budget laptops under $1000 for the demographic you just mentioned. Another thing that's been overdone is reviews for Macbooks. I've seen some channels review the same Macbook over and over again just because it's a popular brand and the reviewer knows it will rack up views. Example: Macbook Pro unboxing, Macbook Pro initial thoughts, Macbook Pro review, Macbook Pro 1 month later review, Macbook Pro 6 months later review, Macbook M1 Pro in 2023. 😂
@ArthropodSpidey
@ArthropodSpidey Жыл бұрын
Maybe the MacBook reviews are "overdone" because they're actually good laptops? Try one before you knock it.
@MyronZhao
@MyronZhao Жыл бұрын
@@ArthropodSpidey I ain't knocking it. I own 2 Macbook Pros. But as I said, everyone already knows it's a good overall laptop, there's really no need to saturate KZbin with that many reviews.
@bluegrapes900
@bluegrapes900 Жыл бұрын
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@aronseptianto8142
@aronseptianto8142 Жыл бұрын
@@ArthropodSpidey i mean that's the point right, it's good, we all know it, it's still expensive af in most country
@mynamemylastname7179
@mynamemylastname7179 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂my mac back broke bro😂😂😂😂😂 also if want to know how a new gpu performs comparing to the previous gpu it is usually about $500 - $1000 better for the $moneyfacturer😂😂😂😂😂🤣😂🤣
@adequatequality
@adequatequality Жыл бұрын
I really love that you mentioned the god awful marketing for these "antivirus" or "protection" software that come pre-installed on most Windows laptop. Especially if you're older and don't know that much about this space, it can be so frustrating and scary for people to think they need to spend money on something Windows already handles natively.
@elizabethw.6154
@elizabethw.6154 Жыл бұрын
I'm one of those that have been paralyzed with the indecision of a new laptop, actually for about 4 years now. The hours of research-- the tech videos, the articles I've read, even visiting stores to look and touch them, as well as the specs I've research... And I'm still incisive. Because of the price I just don't want to f*&# it up. I don't want to buy something and then within a few weeks or months a more Superior version came out and I got screwed for the money that I purchased the laptop. I don't want it to be a very expensive mistake that I make.
@Thai.H
@Thai.H Жыл бұрын
I'm getting a m1 max 16in and calling it a day ngl
@payman_azari
@payman_azari Жыл бұрын
last year I bought an XPS 9310 and I am not regretting so far
@Thai.H
@Thai.H Жыл бұрын
@@payman_azari I have a Dell XPS 9510 it's pretty bad for content creation
@tylerlindsey4772
@tylerlindsey4772 Жыл бұрын
M2 mbp or galaxy book 3 seem like the only real quality choices tbh
@Thai.H
@Thai.H Жыл бұрын
@@tylerlindsey4772 I'm getting the m1 max used m2 ain't much better tbh
@johnl.7582
@johnl.7582 9 ай бұрын
Amazing that you had a whole section on "manufacturer's maximizing profits" without mentioning Apple charging hundreds of dollars extra for tiny amounts of RAM and SSD.
@WesllyOni
@WesllyOni Жыл бұрын
I like how you speak your mind and tackle on issues so few others look at, or even acknowledge. I'll be keeping a closer look on your channel, Josh, thanks for all you do
@GuantaiN
@GuantaiN Жыл бұрын
Most people will not spend months like I do waiting for the best laptop at the ideal price, like tracking discounts from Lenovo, HP, Dell, MS and Asus. For these people, it's best to grab a MacBook or MacBook Air and move on with their lives. However, for those who are willing to do extensive shopping and probably waste hours or days or their lives, there are still some deals to be had. But this sucks as they have to watch many videos, read reviews, and still have to deal with disappointment now and then.
@nonarecords6616
@nonarecords6616 Жыл бұрын
"Designed to be sold, not to be used." As soon as you ask for 32GB, the price increases by $1000. Anyone know why? The SDRAM DDR4 and DDR5 chips from manufacturers cost two orders of magnitude less than that markup.
@BlacK201100
@BlacK201100 Жыл бұрын
I really feel this. I'm looking into buying a new laptop to go back to school, and this has been such a headache. Looking into pre-built units is frustrating because sometimes they do not provide the features I need (good screen, good keyboard, good battery life) while they flaunt extravagant features that make me distracted (CPU power, VGA power...). I embarrassingly admit that I nearly went for another gaming laptop even though I already have one that works perfectly fine, but I just "want something a little bit better". For now the closest thing that will offer me nearly all the features I need are custom-built Thinkpads, and Macbook Pro. The Mac is prohibitively expensive though.
@ayohughes
@ayohughes Жыл бұрын
Excellent video - all very good points! We need more of this from Tech Tubers. Well done Josh! 👍🏽 I would add 3 HUGE issues: 1. Laptops aren't displayed in most brick and mortar high streets and shopping malls. Apart from a few multiples like Best Buy in the US and Curry's in the UK it's hard to find the laptops that you're interested in buying and give them a quick once over before you buy. Buying online can be very hit and miss for such an expensive purchase. 2. The ownership experience is even worse than the buying experience. Even if you pay extra for premium support (from the manufacturer or retailer) you hardly ever get it. It's still hours on the phone, dealing with unhelpful call centres and it's very difficult to get issues fixed quickly. 3. Laptop build quality is still extremely patchy (Dell especially) and there's simply no excuse in this day and age for that. It shouldn't be a lottery to get a decent trackpad, keyboard, hinges, screen without dead pixels etc etc. And don't get me started on software bugs. It's inexcusable to have to keep downloading driver fixes for basic stuff like audio or printer drivers or the wifi card. That stuff should work straight out of the box and faultlessly for many years. Most owners are forever fixing bugs and issues on their laptops. No other consumer products are so routinely troublesome. Apple is the shining exception to much (not all) of the above. In fact, one of the main reasons I've switched to Apple phones, laptops and tablets etc is because they are much more reliable and if I need some support, I can book into the Genius Bar at a convenient Apple Store. I'd rather pay the Apple tax and get something for it than the £300 I paid for a 5 year premium on site warranty only to be told by Dell that 'it doesn't cover hardware'. 🤬
@JustJoshTech
@JustJoshTech Жыл бұрын
All good points
@bqube8901
@bqube8901 Жыл бұрын
Great points! I also think that there's a certain degree of the endowment effect in some consumer purchases. If you're not financially able or not motivated to find something better, then you might just end up sticking with your first choice. Which could be either a good thing or a bad thing, depending on your perspective.
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 Жыл бұрын
Apple doesn't support right to repair and tries to keep users in a walled garden. For me, those are enough of a reason (including the fact I hate macOS) for me to not buy Macs.
@leob_v2
@leob_v2 Жыл бұрын
Excellent points. I especially feel like "building laptops for SALE, not for USE" is true - unfortunately, that is the case with most products in our consumerist and hyper-capitalism society. Thanks to reviewers like you, who remain objective and critical with regards to how the product actually fulfills its purpose, we can make better-informed buying decisions, and through them hopefully affect the product strategies at least very little.
@adamwalter2573
@adamwalter2573 Жыл бұрын
People have still too much money. That's the problem. Once they start saving money, manufacturers will hire a better designers, instead of ekm...."content creators".
@channelschannel
@channelschannel Жыл бұрын
Upgradebility is getting limited in a growing number of models, especially thin and light, as is soldered ram in Zenbook. It would make minimum to no difference if Asus left at least one slot upgradable. As of now you are stuck with whichever you chose at the beginning
@gregbirger5810
@gregbirger5810 Жыл бұрын
Kudos for the mention of Framework. Amazingly well thought out product. I'm looking forward to their 16" modular gaming laptop going on sale later this year. If they manage to pull off everything promised, it will be my next laptop. Cheers!
@paulwoaert
@paulwoaert Жыл бұрын
I think it is totally useless to offer an analysis, to make (often negative) recommendations on the new 15-inch Macbook Air M2 if, like this presenter, you admit you have not yet used it yourself !
@chinamusic4174
@chinamusic4174 Жыл бұрын
I bought an expensive MSI gaming laptop in 2010 due to their PR about their special case making it easier to upgrade. As it turns out, it was a pretty busy time period for me and I barely used laptop through university years etc. However, I did like the laptop and in 2017 I decided to buy another MSI gaming laptop with the special cases making it easier to upgrade. This time, the laptop broke in about half a year and had to be sent to official MSI repair place. They had to replace the motherboard, which consisted of one by one soldering every piece of my laptop onto a new motherboard. When this laptop had more problems in 2022, the repair guy asked wtf happened to the inside of my laptop with all the shoddy soldering work. But here's the real kicker, while this guy was fixing my laptop, I asked if he could throw in a new CPU or GPU since he's in there anyway. He said no, you cannot upgrade those on any laptop. So the entire PR about easy to open and navigate case for easy upgrading was a sham since the only upgradable thing is basically RAM.
@unserios
@unserios Жыл бұрын
In 2020 i got a laptop that basicly was a premium example for the message of this video. Battery Life was terrible. In Order to survive a normal day of school (8am-3pm), i had to put it into the most battery saving settings, meaning lowest brightness level on the stream. In the first half year the touchpad broke twice. After one year the screen would not work correctly (like a white filter over everything and flickering) at certain angles and also the case broke. finally, after one and a half years, it died totally refusing to charge and then died because of low battery. Also in would have needed the laptop for a presentation later that day. I returned it and used the money to buy an Ipad 9, which turned out to be an even better fit for the tasks i used the laptop for.
@alasgar_alakbarov
@alasgar_alakbarov Жыл бұрын
In the end you sounded like an Apple fanboy. They only prioritize their profit margins instead of upgradability and right to repair. No company cares about customer or the environment, except maybe FrameWork and Fairphone.
@JustJoshTech
@JustJoshTech Жыл бұрын
That's just not true re Apple fanboy. Please watch my upcoming PC vs Mac video
@alasgar_alakbarov
@alasgar_alakbarov Жыл бұрын
@@JustJoshTech I have watched your videos for the last year and will continue to do so. I know your takes on things. I am not saying you are, but saying you sounded like one. After reviewing tons of laptops, you should know better than anyone that, on Non-Apple devices you can upgrade ram, wifi card, storage, heck even CPU. It is the most important factor when considering long term usage of your device, especially after paying over 2k$. And Apple does not care about it(also most others).
@crumbman
@crumbman Жыл бұрын
May be un unpopular opinion but selling laptops with super high resolution displays. I don't need a 2800x1600 display on a 14" laptop and I would love to swap it out and get improved battery life but there was no offer for one.
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 Жыл бұрын
I'd take laptops with 1920x1200 screens at 14 inches and below, only moving up to 2560x1600 at and above 15 inches.
@FlyboyHelosim
@FlyboyHelosim Жыл бұрын
I bought a used Dell Latitude with a 1st gen i3 processor for like £20 (minus AC adapter) and that would still do for most casual users today. With an SSD it's no slower than laptops I've got with much more powerful CPUs. I've done tech support for the public through libraries and it made me sick when old dears would come in with £1500 MacBooks that they'd been sold when all they do is write the odd letter, send and receive e-mails, and do some web browsing. I didn't have the heart to tell them that they could do the same thing on a £30 used laptop.
@adamwalter2573
@adamwalter2573 Жыл бұрын
I have even better observation - current integrated GPUs behave worse that those from past few years. Dynamic power throttling ? Probably yes, because old GPUs were always "fast", and current ones use power on demand, so there is a slight time gap before switching more power to GPU. At the cost of CPU of course. I know, a good idea, but for me - silly.
@amadei2
@amadei2 Жыл бұрын
The annoying part, is that even high-end laptop (3k + ), buying a laptop on paper spec alone is a lottery. keyboard, speaker , cooling, overall quality , screen might be very disappointing. It shouldn't be at that price point. Hell, that's without talking about reliability over the years.
@whenhen
@whenhen Жыл бұрын
Biggest issues not mentioned for me: Once you spend $600 or more 16gb of ram should be the standard. 8gb is simply not enough for a laptop in 2023, and this includes MacBooks. I work enterprise IT and we originally purchased the base model M1 Air, which we had to swap out after a couple of months. 8gb is not sufficient for light excel work, web apps, video conferencing, and browsing. If you’re a cheaper laptop manufacturer, stop soldering in ram as well. 8gb with the option to upgrade to 16gb down the line will do far more to improve usability than going from an i3 to i5. Outside of surfaces and Samsung Galaxybook laptops, touch screen tech is awful. I’m convinced that the reason so many people dismiss 2 in 1s as a gimmick is because of the awful palm rejection and lag, not to mention the terrible stylus tech found on most touch screen Dells and Lenovos. I would love to use my 2 in 1 for notes, fine diagram markups, etc and ditch my iPad but I can’t because of how awful it is at being a tablet. Finally, all mid tier and higher laptops should aim to have USB C ports capable of at least USB 4 data transfer speeds on both sides. It drastically improves the experience of docking it as well as charging. Ideally they also keep the headphone jack and USB A port, since so many cheaper but still excellent peripherals rely on this
@firstspar
@firstspar Жыл бұрын
All very good points.
@SpookestManx
@SpookestManx 9 ай бұрын
my dad got me a laptop when I was 10 I begged for a computer and specifically asked for a desktop however he got me a laptop… I remember mustering the strength to pretend I was happy and now my friends all have nice computers and i’m stuck with a laptop that barely runs any game at all, please parents don’t buy your kids a laptop, it only brings sadness
@I_Exist557
@I_Exist557 7 ай бұрын
Some parents can't afford much on a good computer. So instead they just get crappy one cuz it's "cheap" and "affordable".
@Piketom1
@Piketom1 Жыл бұрын
I’m at the point right now where I can’t honestly recommend ANY new versions of laptops to friends or co-workers. They are not significant improvements over their mid to late 2022 counterparts and leftover stock is so discounted that it’s a no-brainer.
@JustJoshTech
@JustJoshTech Жыл бұрын
Well said
@JanJanuszNosacz
@JanJanuszNosacz Жыл бұрын
I'm a ThinkPad fanboy and I really appreciate older models for their modular construction and the way they can be upgraded. It makes me sad when I see Z13 where there is virtually no any upgrade option... I understand that making laptops thinner requires some compromises, but that's sad nonetheless.
@sgallegos702
@sgallegos702 Жыл бұрын
Finally convinced my boss to get me a Lenovo Thinkpad over Dell. I missed the feeling.
@Inc0gnit045
@Inc0gnit045 Жыл бұрын
​@@sgallegos702 I'm planning to buy legion 5i pro i7 12700H RTX 3060
@sgallegos702
@sgallegos702 Жыл бұрын
@@Inc0gnit045 mine is strictly for business, but that sounds like fun.
@Inc0gnit045
@Inc0gnit045 Жыл бұрын
@@sgallegos702 which one did you get?
@sgallegos702
@sgallegos702 Жыл бұрын
@@Inc0gnit045 thinkpad 14 gen 3 i5. Work paid for it so it had to meet specific requirements. I use my M1 MBA for personal use.
@nitroyetevn
@nitroyetevn Жыл бұрын
*edit I wrote this at the start of the video, but basically just restating what you said :D Here's what's going wrong in the laptop industry: - Macbook M2 14 in and 16 in are the best, but are way too expensive - Other laptops are worse than the Macbook M2, but not cheap enough to justify how much worse they are Specifics: - "Long battery life" laptops that aren't macbooks don't actually have long battery life - "Sacrifice battery life for better performance" laptops that aren't macbooks have terrible battery life as promised, but don't actually have that good performance - Both "performance" and "battery life" groups are an inconsistent mess when it comes to other critical features like webcams, keyboards, mics, speakers, wifi. A model from one year might have a worse keyboard but better speakers the next year, then swap again the year after, and it changes all the time between release year and manufacturers. Yet macbooks are consistently perfect on all of these features, showing that it can be done.
@BriefNerdOriginal
@BriefNerdOriginal Жыл бұрын
This kind of think through, editorial videos, is really good and worth continuing. Kudos.
@M1szS
@M1szS Жыл бұрын
so glad company like framework exists, hope they continue making laptops, because it just seems like a perfect laptop to me, being able to upgrade and repair everything yourself, im planning on buying one and installing linux on it to not deal with windows spyware
@oozly9291
@oozly9291 Жыл бұрын
Have the G14 now, really happy with the laptop and how light it is. Really good price for $1,100 when I bought it new on Best Buy
@oozly9291
@oozly9291 Жыл бұрын
@@hellboy4642 lmaoo what
@trademarktmel
@trademarktmel Жыл бұрын
how's the heat and fan noise when not gaming? those sales are insane
@kyniro.
@kyniro. Жыл бұрын
​@@oozly9291 that laptop costs someone's rent of course it's going to be decent
@09nickdenis
@09nickdenis Жыл бұрын
I bought one too and I'm going to return this one with 6800s. Too hot when just browsing/streaming sports and battery life is mediocre at best. Gaming seems good on it but I also need to be plugged in with this massive 240 watt charger. So much for portability.
@Emilia_Inkheart
@Emilia_Inkheart Жыл бұрын
Not me stumbling across this video after trying to figure out what laptop to buy for the last *two whole months*. Can't get any more relatable than this.
@suqicheng8196
@suqicheng8196 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't buying a framework laptop fix most of these issues since they are e upgradeable, fixable and don't have bloatware. I mean with the new Ryzen chips coming out performance and temperature shouldn't be a problem for NORMAL use
@A3PTech
@A3PTech Жыл бұрын
Since the Apple M1 chip, we've had the M1 Pro and M1 Max chips, the M2, M2 Pro and M2 Max chips, and we're just round the corner from the M3, M3 Pro and M3 Max chips ....... The original M1 chip is still, 3 years on ..... SPECTACULAR! .... I'm convinced that the base model M1 MacBook Air is the right laptop for 99% of users. I've had mine 3 years and haven't found anything it cannot do. I've absolutely no intention what so ever of upgrading this laptop for a long time yet! (Note: 256GB of storage ain't great, but I pay for 2TB of iCloud storage, so it doesn't really affect me).
@grizfan93
@grizfan93 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree, the original M1 MBA for the price is one of the best computing values ever.
@Archivist42
@Archivist42 Жыл бұрын
I definitely feel this. I got a Lenovo legion recently and in its balanced power mode the fans are loud to the point that it sounds like I'm in a server room. You can manually override the fans to be quieter, but then the performance goes down noticeably defeating the point of the process/gpu inside anyway
@Phxstick
@Phxstick Жыл бұрын
Which Legion laptop are you using? I'm currently considering buying a Legion Slim 7 Gen 7 (AMD), which Josh himself recently recommended. Upon further research, it appears to be a relatively quiet option. Low fan noise and heat are very high priority for me, so I'm interested in whether the laptop can stay quiet and cool in more realistic scenarios (and not synthetic benchmarks, which is what most reviewers provide).
@LRZephyr
@LRZephyr Жыл бұрын
​@@Phxstick My Intel variant is dead quiet in silent mode and considering AMD processors tend to draw less power than Intel's, I'm fairly certain you'll have no issue with this model. Be sure to use it on flat surfaces to not block airflow though
@Phxstick
@Phxstick Жыл бұрын
@@LRZephyr Thanks for the info, I've been specifically avoiding the Intel variant (which btw is currently cheaper than the AMD one in my country) because I've seen a few users/reviewers say that it gets rather warm and loud. But if even that variant can run quietly, at least for lighter tasks like web browsing, then that's very reassuring
@pranavdupati9164
@pranavdupati9164 Жыл бұрын
You can use Legion Fan Control/Legion toolkit, Im a legion 5 2021 3060 owner!
@williamcopeland2617
@williamcopeland2617 Жыл бұрын
That's BS bro. I have one and you are exaggerating the hell out of the fan noise. please cut it out!!!!
@WhenItsHalfPastFive
@WhenItsHalfPastFive Жыл бұрын
Harsh truth: For most people, you're fine with just a Macbook (air, pro, whatever). You will have very few problems, and it will last you nearly a decade. For gamers, you're better off buying a desktop - there are simply no reliable Windows laptops.
@JBrinx18
@JBrinx18 Жыл бұрын
This right here. Mac makes good laptops, windows is good for desktops, that is until Win 10 expires, then Linux gaming all the way
@HuntaKiller91
@HuntaKiller91 Жыл бұрын
​@@JBrinx18 steamos is getting better I rarely depend on win10 for gaming since i got my deck in the last 2weeks
@JBrinx18
@JBrinx18 Жыл бұрын
@@HuntaKiller91 steamOS is good. If you want it on a desktop, you should go for ChimeraOS, as holoiso has too much instability
@SiamHossain7
@SiamHossain7 Жыл бұрын
Tongfang chassis laptops have been pretty light on software bullshit and actual electrical reliability
@akshitmehta3881
@akshitmehta3881 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@dr.ibrahimamer6635
@dr.ibrahimamer6635 Жыл бұрын
well said . Battery life in laptops is a very crucial spec that most manufacturers overlook or do not invest in it's improvement.
@hermanwooster8944
@hermanwooster8944 Жыл бұрын
Definitely agree. For the longest part of the computing era, the CPU was the bottleneck. Now we've gotten to a point where most processors can handle 90% of the tasks that most people do. Even gamers prioritize the GPU over the CPU. For that reason, I've recently been looking at the other features that get ignored. Good news is if you see this too, you're ahead of the curve.
@MrSpiftire
@MrSpiftire Жыл бұрын
Love your take on the industry. Keep up the good work
@diddymaine6780
@diddymaine6780 Жыл бұрын
This channel is so underrated to be honest.
@JustJoshTech
@JustJoshTech Жыл бұрын
Thanks Diddy! Please spread the word about it if you can :) It is appreciated
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 Жыл бұрын
Apple has made some spectacular blunders with their laptops over the years, a lot of it in the pursuit of being the thinnest and lightest, but I think they're back on track with all of their current M series offerings (both laptops and desktops).
@bryans8656
@bryans8656 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinsedwards Yep, it's a personal preference thing. I've got the M2 Air and it doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would.
@mrbobgamingmemes9558
@mrbobgamingmemes9558 Жыл бұрын
​@@kevinsedwards all they have to do is option to hide the notch honestly i believe it shoudl be easy with mac os software trick
@chadh7988
@chadh7988 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinsedwards Agreed, and the anti consumer practices.
@saintless
@saintless Жыл бұрын
yep.. the spectacular blunders are why I'm not currently using them, despite much preferring the OS. My last Apple was a 2011 MBP, more of those had a GPU failure that bricked the machine than the number that were retired due to age. Before that, a 2007 MBP, also a GPU failure... fixed under warranty and sort of still worked but dated. Before that, an Imac G5 PPC with a bad capacitor. I also had a mainboard fry on a beige G3 desktop. Their hardware isn't as good as fanboys rave. I might give Apple another chance at some point, but I'm not ready yet.
Жыл бұрын
If Apple gets rid of their anti-consumer practices maybe.
@emwrmi
@emwrmi 5 ай бұрын
Spot on! It is a nightmare buying a Computer… They either push old obsolete stock with meaningless spec jargon or push so called Upgrades to move up a notch or two in price. Unfortunately, this behavior is not confined to hardware, it’s is also found in everything digital: like Software, programs that have morphed into Software as a service subscriptions instead of copies delivered for you to own and use forever. You will be hard pushed to find software that is delivered on the terms: pay once own forever. I may be old-fashioned, at 71 and having been around since before the PC introduction in the 80s. My first computer was a VIC 20!! No Windows or Apple , they were just budding companies fighting over what XEROX invented, but failed to capitalize on… The way things have gone, I must say that the accountant in the industry have taken over the digital world and got us all where they want us to be: more profitable at the expense of the customers. Finally, I must have a jab at Apple and maybe upset a lot of people: But I can’t for my life understand how Apple can have such a following when, they patently and obviously squeeze the maximum profit possible and are proud of it!!
@earthling_parth
@earthling_parth Жыл бұрын
Highly highly recommend to buy the Framework laptop! They have an AMD version on sale in couple of months and they have a 16 inch gaming laptop with detachable/upgradable dedicated graphics coming out later this year. It's not the best bang for the buck laptop but it sure as hell will be in 5 or 6 years.
@eternalspring1034
@eternalspring1034 Жыл бұрын
I got a new laptop last month....i haven't had one since 2008. My 2008 gateway was so terrible, i hated laptops for years.
@ktrnkrnkh
@ktrnkrnkh 11 ай бұрын
just ended my painful 'choosing a laptop' process. the thing that pissed me off the most is there are literally MYRIAD of configuration, but you take any - and something will suck (especially in low-middle budget are). like it will be nice processor & RAM, but shitty VRAM or 256GB SSD, but when there are nice VRAM and SSD - shitty RAM & processor and different combos of this. feels like they made it so intentionally, soemthing should suck so you won't be satisfyed.
@mattlorig
@mattlorig Жыл бұрын
This video hit the nail on the head. I don't care how think my laptop is. And I don't need the most powerful chip available just to surf the web, watch videos, and write documents. All I want is a quiet laptop (no fan noise!) with a high-quality monitor, a great keyboard, good i/o, and a decent webcam and speakers. This shouldn't be that hard to find.
@marilenaganea6578
@marilenaganea6578 8 ай бұрын
If you find it please let me know! I'm stuck for the last 2 months and I doubt I will unstuck any time soon
@gertwallen
@gertwallen Жыл бұрын
Most laptops are fine as long as you clean install the OS to get rid of all the junk and optimize it to minimize unnecessary background tasks. Also keep inside components clean to improve the cooling.
@cameronbosch1213
@cameronbosch1213 Жыл бұрын
For me, it's the lack of AMD options this year. Well, 16/18 inch 16:10 options. And no, the Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo 16 is not a suitable option because the dual screen design makes the trackpad useless and keyboard annoying to use. The Alienware m16 was looking like it until I heard there might not be an AMD 7045 + Nvidia RTX 4000 option. That would be a major reason for me to stay with Radeon RX 6700M, despite the issues with content creation it has, even with DaVinci Resolve. Intel 13th gen (as well as 12th gen) just doesn't have the battery life to match AMD Ryzen 4000 or later. I see no reason to gain performance but lose over half of my 7 - 8 hour battery life.
@andy5434
@andy5434 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, the major problems mentioned in this video about the cooling and battery life issues are because of intel's cpus and most of the premium high end laptops like the xps laptops don't have amd options.
@JeskidoYT
@JeskidoYT Жыл бұрын
Wait there is less AMD laptops again?? Ugh. THIS HAPPENS EVERY OTHER YEAR
@doufmech4323
@doufmech4323 Жыл бұрын
Anti-virus is a waste of money and sometimes they are so intrusive they can be considered malware themselves.
@mikewhittaker5685
@mikewhittaker5685 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I have never found it this frustrating to buy anything I've ever bought in my entire life, I'm a techy chap, and sometimes things get difficult, but this tops everything ever. All I want is a laptop for cad and sketchup studio with a life span of about 4 years. The detail and research I've had to go to is beyond a joke. Now I know what I know, I wouldn't trust any retailers specs or pretty pictures, there is so much they don't tell you about what you are getting in the glossy, and you could very easily pay way to much for what they are selling due to numbers advertised not telling the truth about the actual speed or true performance of the laptop. Enough said
@Danboi.
@Danboi. Жыл бұрын
I'm in same situation.. cannot make a decision for th life of me.. just want for running 24/7 stock charts on external monitors and for recording guitar/music .what did u get?
@mikewhittaker5685
@mikewhittaker5685 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I finally got this because of its lightweight as it's being carried in a rucksack every day. GU603VI-N4015W, 16.0" WQXGA 240Hz, Intel i9-13900H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB, 16GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 1TB PCI-E SSD, Windows 11 Home, £2,099.99 You can get a DDR version for another 1k which is hugely over priced. However I would have gone for the Dell G16 had it been a bit lighter. On Dells website you can choose your spec, for £1700, you can get everything the Asus has but with 32G DDR 5 faster memory and more, an Asus laptop would cost 3-4k for what you get in the Dell
@M_P_N
@M_P_N Жыл бұрын
THe inability to ugrade RAM or ins some cases even the SSD is what pisses me off, but I agree, Laptops shouldn't chase the title of "the thinnest" it just means they're compromising elsewhere. I'd rather a laptop that's 2-4mm thicher if it means better cooling and the ability to swap out RAM sticks, most laptops can last way longer if you could upgrade the RAM yourself and manufacturers know this. If you can, support Framework laptops so they can keep refining and improving their designs so laptops can be infinitely more upgradeable/easily fixable.
@Olibelus
@Olibelus Жыл бұрын
It's been such a stressful purchase for me. I've been deciding what to buy for the past 4 months. I finally decided to go "top end" and buy an ASUS Strix Scar 18 2023 edition. It cost 3500 euros. The first unit I recieved had bad cooling and tons of freezes and BSOD, so I returned it, the replacement unit, i.e. the second laptop had even worse cooling and the display kept blinking. Frustrated I returned it for the second time. Now I am back at square one... and I don't know what to choose anymore. Buying a new laptop really does suck.
@goJesusandStarcraft
@goJesusandStarcraft Жыл бұрын
If you need a good laptop, get a MacBook. If you need windows, build a desktop PC. If you need a good windows laptop, you're out of luck. (I'm not an apple fanboy, ive built desktop PCs, used Dell, Lenovo, and Apple laptops, and used Windows, linux, and mac operating systems. This is my honest opinion based on my experiences) It's actually astounding how there is not one single windows laptop that checks all the boxes : 1. Nice, color accurate, bright display with a fast refresh rate and that doesnt have annoying PWM flickers 2. A click-anywhere solid haptic touchpad with excellent palm rejection that supports gestures, and a comfortable keyboard 3. Quality speakers / mic / webcam 4. Good performance whether plugged or unplugged, that doesn't cause your machine to become unbearably noisy or hot
@Olibelus
@Olibelus Жыл бұрын
@@goJesusandStarcraft This is great advice. Thanks for taking the time to write all of this up for me!
@SladeBling
@SladeBling 4 ай бұрын
I really want a new laptop. I researched and researched for over 2 weeks. I was willing to pay $750 for a really good one but nope, the really good ones are over 1K and there's no guarantee they won't have a loud fan or low battery life or a bad mosfit within the year, which is what they seemed designed to do. So, I just went out and bought a Honor Pad 9 for $295. They threw in a free sylus, power bank, smart speaker, and flip cover and now I'm very, very satisfied with my purchase.
@tragically.rachel
@tragically.rachel Жыл бұрын
It's literally insane to figure out which to buy as a student
@islrubsca2330
@islrubsca2330 Жыл бұрын
Definitely concur with the designed to be sold sentiment. There seems to be a gap in the market for Laptops with efficient, yet modest processors, that still offer high end specs in other desirable components and features. E.g. things like storage size, screen resolution, materials, ergonomics, refresh rates and Ram speeds. So to get a laptop with an excellent screen or decent amount of storage, often you are forced to choose a model that also incorporates the high end, most powerful and expensive processor specs. When all many people want to do is browse the net, use Office and watch videos and movies. What can't I get an excellent screen, decent amount of storage with a just adequate, efficient processor?
@thanatosor
@thanatosor 7 ай бұрын
Laptop business is kinda evil.
@rave4e
@rave4e Жыл бұрын
I’m happy we have you here. Thanks for your efforts.
@liam4184
@liam4184 Жыл бұрын
Man I 100% agree with the power thing. I've been desperately trying to find a laptop that I can use for casual use without burning my legs every time I use it on my laps. I could buy a cheap underpowered one, but they tend to also come with rubbish connectors and horrible screens. All the good laptops seem to get extremely hot, even when just browsing the web. I've owned two XPS's and they seem to be the worst.
@adamwalter2573
@adamwalter2573 Жыл бұрын
I run mine in lab, or many labs, but what stops me from replacing current unit is a lack of PGUP PGDOWN buttons. Using FN to have "PAGE UP" is a pain. Content creators or mega-ultra-pro-gamers don't use them, so big brain laptop designers don't care about the rest of the market. Sad but true.
@oh-noe
@oh-noe 11 ай бұрын
get the MacBook Air. M1 if you want it cheaper since you can find used/refurbished or get it for sale from a retailer. It is fanless so no fan noise. It still runs cool thanks to arm based chip. And since it is an arm based chip battery lasts long and you won't lose performance by disconnecting from power. Since you want to use if for casual stuff this is one of the better options. Unless you want to play games of course, but gaming products and casual netbook products are two distinct types of laptops, they cannot be combined. I have the base M2 air and for things like surfing the web and lighter productive tasks like office applications and photoshop it never runs hot for me. I have even put it through 6k editing in resolve and blender simulations and while it does get hotter it pushes through it like a champ. But that is to be expected when you start doing heavy tasks.
@seth4321
@seth4321 Жыл бұрын
Josh, great video. You nailed it when you talked about the whole laptop EXPERIENCE, not just numbers on a spec sheet. I wanted to get away from macOS and purchase a Windows laptop and boy, did I have my work cut out for me. I don’t have much issue digging through spec sheets because I know what I’m looking for (I’m not the average user), but what I did have issues with was the things that reviewers gloss over. I returned about five laptops due to coil whine or fan noise. Quick aside regarding fan noise: it’s not always the presence of fan noise that bothers me, it’s the high pitched turbine-like whine that most laptops make. It drives me up a wall and I can’t stand it. Perhaps you can start sharing fan noise sound samples in your reviews so we can hear this. Some of Apple’s laptops prior to the MBP redesign suffered from this too so the issue isn’t uniquely a Windows laptop problem. I completely lucked out because I actually ended up on a cheaper laptop than any one I tried before - the Asus Zenbook 14. My only qualms are the 8GB of soldered memory and the short battery life (Intel CPU). In all other regards it still has me smiling ear to ear when I know that I got it for ~$540 open box (retails for $750 at Best Buy). I’m also delighted to be back on Windows. I’m just waiting for an updated 2023 SKU of this laptop (announced at CES) with a 7000 series Ryzen processor and 16GB of RAM. When it lands on shelves, I’ll likely have myself my next 5-year plus laptop. Again, great video.
@corey7219
@corey7219 Жыл бұрын
I bought my asus zephyrus g14 in august of 2021 for $1175 second hand. What a solid laptop this is (minus the paint chipping issue). I will probably keep this for at least 5-6 years at this rate.
@Drstrange3000
@Drstrange3000 Жыл бұрын
I bought the same laptop around the same time and new around that price. After years of looking I think it is worth it. Glad you are liking yours!
@tamwilfred
@tamwilfred Жыл бұрын
I miss the days when you could upgrade simple things like RAM and storage by yourself without having to take apart half the laptop. I haven’t kept up to date with Mac but even now that doesn’t matter because Apple might make you go to Apple to upgrade anything because they attach parts to a specific model now. So even if you get genuine Apple parts the device might not work. It wouldn’t be so bad except any add-on you make to a computer is up charged like two or three times as much.
@Jonny-317
@Jonny-317 Жыл бұрын
This is why I just bought the M1 MacBook Air recently. It may be three years old, but it still performing better than most current laptops, and I plan on keeping it for as long as possible.
@Lana.a_
@Lana.a_ Жыл бұрын
Hi! Does the battery last long? (Also if you reply, would you like my comment? I can only see a notification reply if someone likes it 😭
@Lana.a_
@Lana.a_ Жыл бұрын
And is this macbook good to use for students?
@Jonny-317
@Jonny-317 Жыл бұрын
@@Lana.a_ Hi, I only use mine for about two hours a day but I only charge it once a week. I'm sure it would last all day.
@Jonny-317
@Jonny-317 Жыл бұрын
@@Lana.a_ Yes, this would be great for school. I would go for it.
@2004u
@2004u Жыл бұрын
iam so pissed of this year all the manufacturers that used amd processor for the last 2 years changed to intel 13th gen especially asus they changed to intel fully except for the g14 its like intel bribed the entire laptop market
@kuraicraft
@kuraicraft Жыл бұрын
Not to mention you can't get some ports anymore, meaning someone upgrading to use a graphic tablet like myself is getting really aggravated
@anarsosoroo2891
@anarsosoroo2891 Жыл бұрын
Woooo, new video! glad to see you ❤
@JustJoshTech
@JustJoshTech Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Vikushu
@Vikushu Жыл бұрын
I believe one thing you missed is selling old, non-clearance versions of a laptop as brand new. The average user who knows nothing about computers will buy it thinking they received a good deal. It should be clearer on the product page that you're buying an older product, perhaps by showing the release year.
@Salty_Biscuitz88
@Salty_Biscuitz88 Жыл бұрын
Nowadays I just buy a MacBook and go back to whatever I need to do.
@arjames26
@arjames26 Жыл бұрын
I remember when we bought an Acer Aspire 3 laptop last 2020, it was priced 36k pesos (around 650 dollars). It is full of bloatwares and still using HDD and 4GB of RAM. Fortunately its storage and RAM is upgradable, and I spent around 100 dollars to make it smooth.
@teddybruscie
@teddybruscie Жыл бұрын
This is why Tablets and Samsung Dex is are the best option for the average personal computing use.
@prime_comando
@prime_comando Жыл бұрын
I agree with this and I look fwd to more like this.
@mstu8097
@mstu8097 Жыл бұрын
TLDW: corporations make products to serve their needs, not yours.
@I_Exist557
@I_Exist557 8 ай бұрын
The thing is this. Corporations are NOT your friends and they will never be. Let's just face the reality for once.
@paulmcwilliams8641
@paulmcwilliams8641 Жыл бұрын
Being someone who has been into the audio side of technology for 50 years, I totally agree with you on that aspect of laptop and phones. To advertise having "Atmos sound" that in a surround sound system entails having speakers in the ceiling, are being included in a mobile device is clearly a mound of bovine faecal matter. I want to replace my six year old laptop which is slowly coming apart and I have the following criteria to satisfy. This one must be robust enough to last another six years, have a trackpad that cuts down in my Anglo Saxon expletive rate and not lightly poach my thighs. Once those values have been met, the display must be able to play the UHD videos my cameras produce. The cheapest laptop that can do those will do.
@blockblockgoose
@blockblockgoose Жыл бұрын
Thank you for these video's that teach you about misleading advertisments of laptops.
@gw7624
@gw7624 3 ай бұрын
I'll second the point about processor power. Just bought a Dell Inspiron with an Intel i5 1334u with the idea that it would be cool and quiet. In reality, it runs noticeably hotter than my old XPS from 2016 which had an i7. Even light workloads which would never cause any issues on my XPS now cause the fan to spin up repeatedly. I've been forced to disable turbo just to make it bearable to use.
@Reptile94puss
@Reptile94puss Жыл бұрын
After getting a brand new laptop X1 Yoga Gen7 for work, I finally get how bad the things are... hot and loud, terrible battery life (4 hours even on low-power mode). Macbooks are just on another level right now, tough times for Windows/Linux users!
@dougnulton
@dougnulton Жыл бұрын
I know this probably doesn’t contribute too much to the cost of the laptop but I wanted to share my 2 cents anyway: I don’t understand the recent infatuation with laptop speakers. I have never found my myself playing audio over laptop speakers. Either I’m alone in my home office, in which case I have much better speakers, or I’m in a semi-public place and so I’m on headphones so as to not be rude. So while I agree with your assessment, especially the over-powered chips, I think there’s still some subjectivity as to what features are “essential” and should be focused on by laptop manufacturers.
@JustJoshTech
@JustJoshTech Жыл бұрын
That may be true for your use case Doug, however many people do watch Netflix and other streaming services off their laptop. I.e. in bed, on the couch etc.
@_Digitalguy
@_Digitalguy Жыл бұрын
some/many people move around the house with their devices, stationary speakers don't work for that
@twigcapra.
@twigcapra. Жыл бұрын
Just because you don't have a need for it, it doesn't mean others don't have a use for it.
@dougnulton
@dougnulton Жыл бұрын
@@twigcapra. I never claimed otherwise. The video introduces the idea that there are certain “essential” features that all average users were seeking, and I just wanted to provide a different data point.
@twigcapra.
@twigcapra. Жыл бұрын
@@dougnulton then let me provide you with another - maybe it's not so much as an infatuation and rather most users being fed garbage speakers for years now, and that some higher end models have crappy ones as well
@SunnyVaswani91
@SunnyVaswani91 Жыл бұрын
I just discovered this channel and i havent seen another tech youtuber that explains so well. amazing, keep up the good work
@henrytang2203
@henrytang2203 Жыл бұрын
As a person who uses a laptop as mostly a desktop replacement at home and occasionally on holidays in hotel rooms with curtains - low screen brightness and weak speakers are non-issues for me. I can also forgive a crappy track pad as I bring my mouse along. But I do want a laptop with good cooling and relatively low fan noise - probably the only thing I can't test in a store.
@LAFadhel
@LAFadhel Жыл бұрын
AMD (Marketing Aside), they are the ones I see doing the most with actual laptop use (with their aim being for efficiency). When I used the G15, G14 (2021) and G14(2022) for the small amount of time I had them for. Battery Life and Heat were not an issue , I could easily get 8 - 10 hours of battery throughout the day. AMD new naming scheme is transparent (It does suck), I just hope they make better mobile GPU's. Nvidia's ridiculous pricing/naming along with Intel having inefficient, high watt/heat CPUs needs to stop before 2024. I wanted a Zephyrus or a Blade, but with quality control issues and poor battery life, I opted with the MacBook Pro 14in as my main machine.
@Sylar2112i
@Sylar2112i Жыл бұрын
Any reason why you had the G14 (2022) for a small amount of time only? Were there some major issues with it?
@LAFadhel
@LAFadhel Жыл бұрын
@@Sylar2112i I just had poor luck with all three. Poor quality control, otherwise. All are amazing laptops, I recommended them to friends. No issues on their end.
@Fordance100
@Fordance100 Жыл бұрын
There are settings in Windows control panel to set minimum and max speed of the processor. Set min at 10% and max 95%, you get very good battery life and heat reduction. Some RTX 4000 laptop let you set power limit at. I didn't know what I did with my 2070 laptop now tops at 35W. That's bad for gaming, but good for casual uses.
Жыл бұрын
The new naming schema doesn't match up with their desktop counterparts.
@yukidaruma3177
@yukidaruma3177 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone spoke out my biggest concern when getting new laptop and most tech youtuber only emphasize the benchmark result yet most of average users 98% can't tell the performance difference. better screen, battery, stay cool longer to touch (since people buying laptop don't bother to get external keyboard and new mouse anyway) are the killer feature most of us need. I'm just happy waiting tech trickle down when it is needed to upgrade my laptop.
@chadh7988
@chadh7988 Жыл бұрын
No, Apple is not a good example the industry should be following. To me the absolute worst thing about laptops are what Apple does, selling you a completely non-upgradable machine and then absolutely ripping you off on upgrades. 256GB SSDs and 8GB of RAM are not enough for a lot of users. But it costs $200 to go from 8GB to 16GB of RAM and $400 to upgrade to 1TB of storage. For $600 I can get a whole laptop from another brand. An 8GB DDR5 SODIM is about $30 retail, and a 1TB Samsung 980 Pro (which is faster than Apple's storage) is $75. I realize Apple uses an SOC now, but they could at least add an m.2 slot so you could add a 2nd drive. I wish all these companies would stop making under speced non-upgradable machines that will quickly become e-waste. I do agree somewhat about your point on overspecing CPUs that can't even perform at their peak potential due to thermals. But stop with the 8GB of non-upgradable RAM. Even for web browsing where you have a lot of tabs open that isn't going to cut it. Asus had a great computer with a 12th gen i5, OLED screen, upgradable storage that sold in the $550-700 range. I would have bought that in a second if it didn't have only 8GB of non-upgradable RAM.
@Connor0isdabest
@Connor0isdabest Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. add on to this poorly trained staff at both manufacturers and major third party sellers, who are likey under heavy pressure to upsell you. So you basically can't get any useful advice when buying.
@z4n045
@z4n045 Жыл бұрын
Here i am after 5 days of screening all possible laptop manifacturer. I ve already changed my mind 3 times in these 5 days, i started thinking i wanted something and end up thinking i actually should do the opposite (in my case was glassy vs matte screen). At this pointe im in the "fuck that" state of mind, i think ill let my cat decide between the ones im indiceded. ive wasted so many hours researching that i could probably buy 2 of laptops now if I had used them to work.
@z4n045
@z4n045 Жыл бұрын
@@SophiaHestia at the end I opted for the lgGram 16 if can help😂
@meppeorga
@meppeorga Жыл бұрын
The more you know about tech in general, the more you cringe when you look at the trash they put on the display/they promote in the markets and on their websites. It's disappointing what's happening in consumer electronics in general. The sad thing is the fact that most people simply don't care and don't know that they are being scammed, most just accept the fact that everything breaks 1 year after the warranty expires and then you have to buy it again
@MrLUISRAUL1997
@MrLUISRAUL1997 11 ай бұрын
Why this guy does not have more views ? He is a great reviewer
@JustJoshTech
@JustJoshTech 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. Please share the channel. It will help
@ccroy2001
@ccroy2001 Жыл бұрын
For a home laptop I don't require much computing power but I want a good display and sound. So I ended up with a Microsoft Surface Go 3 tablet. Built well, and no bloatware. I could (and have in the past) paid the same $$ for more computer in a cheaper chassis but that's not as good a long term experience. Focus on value, not price, they are not the same.
@DomhnallMolloy
@DomhnallMolloy Жыл бұрын
1:27 it's a bit of a disaster im even filming on my travel camera proceeds to show a really nice camera that's a flex bro
@Jacare1973
@Jacare1973 Жыл бұрын
I also find it confusing shopping through, for example all of Lenovo’s models & configurations. Next the manufacturers make you think your getting a serious deal advertising their laptops for 40-60% off when in reality their pricing doesn’t change & no one is paying $2500-4000 retail.
@Fordance100
@Fordance100 Жыл бұрын
Walmart have good pricings for Lenovo laptops. But they get sold out fast when there are good deals.
@isbestlizard
@isbestlizard Жыл бұрын
I HATE that laptops still have shitty webcams that a mobile phones selfie cam from 2005 would beat for sharpness, resolution, noise, colour etc. Stop putting shitty $1 webcam sensors in laptops and actually SPEND SOME MONEY on a good module.
@pasheg4345
@pasheg4345 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it sucks. Now, not all people live is the US (or a handful of similarly developed countries), and they have it much worse. The same models are often priced x1.5 - x2 or so. The local selection is often miserable, and most Internet retailers like Amazon and Ebay simply don't ship anything to half of the world. And even if they do, you'd have to pay up to 100% of the cost in customs fees, depending on the country.
@whatthedeuce47d68
@whatthedeuce47d68 Жыл бұрын
I've stopped following LTT so I'm pleased to find other genuine outlets that give informative content. Cheers for this content
@JacekNasiadek
@JacekNasiadek Жыл бұрын
8:30 Foundries are just as guilty of this. Intel's 10nm/Intel 7 is dimensionally similar to TSMC's 7nm. Nanometers are just marketing at this point.
@JustJoshTech
@JustJoshTech Жыл бұрын
Thank you. That's a good comment
@roqeyt3566
@roqeyt3566 Жыл бұрын
I fully agree with your points here. So many design choices are done for marketing, not for actual use. One of the laptops I actually wanted for the internals (which are rare here) was a really bad package deal. The chassis was bad, the cooling was underbuilt and the screen was flimsy. I went for a similarly specced device (still relatively low end) in a thicker chassis designed for higher end parts. The quality you get is much better, but it scares me that they'd try to cram double the hardware in the chassis that barely can handle lower midrange parts.
@encryptedunicorn7659
@encryptedunicorn7659 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I'm very happy with the last laptop I bought, awesome CPU, entry level dedicated GPU, and beutiful screen - exactly suited for my needs. Also bought without preinstalled OS. But I am very knowledgable on tech, especially PC. My sister has been searching for a new laptop a long time now and even with me trying to help, at these prices and not really knowing her exact demands yet just at the beginning of her studies, there hasn't been a decision yet. One small thing - and well just my opinion - AMDs new naming scheme for their mobile SoCs is actually pretty awesome. They're all new SKUs with certain new 7th gen features, and what each of them has is directly clear from the name. You need to know the meaning of the numbers though, and even more importantly, what it is that's being referred, but at least it makes helping others a lot easier.
@avie4176
@avie4176 Жыл бұрын
In my country the biggest retailer doesn't even provide details about the battery (battery life and capacity).
@Andromahlius
@Andromahlius Жыл бұрын
"Marketing designed to mislead you" is a complete tautology.
@apoorvappychoudhary392
@apoorvappychoudhary392 Жыл бұрын
This is the most genuine and honest video ever made on YT. I'm worried that these OEMs will come after you for this video. We'll support you with whatever means necessary. Take care Josh.
@saintless
@saintless Жыл бұрын
They don't care enough to go after anyone, even if the truth is out there (and this video is straight up TRUTH), there are plenty of ignorant shoppers that will never stumble across this; not going to hurt their bottom line. It's different when someone like GamersNexus speaks out about something like NewEgg because there's a significant overlap between people who watch that channel and DIY builders that would shop at NE. But the majority of the laptop market? They just buy whatever the BestBuy employee suggests or someone on SlickDeals assures them it's a great deal.
@electricmiragemedia
@electricmiragemedia Жыл бұрын
"modern laptops are designed to be sold rather than used" Bingo. Great observation. They are also designed for KZbin influencer marketing.
@usmanladan1515
@usmanladan1515 Жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, this is the best KZbin video you ever made. Because you are calling a spade a spade without being insulting. Your description perfectly fits my experience of owning different brands of windows computers in the last 20 years. Almost all the manufacturers of the different brands share one common name: scammers.
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