Why Call It VEGAN CHICKEN??

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Alright, I felt like making some Vegan Chick’n so I thought I might as well answer a very common question that I know a bunch of us get. Now I never have to answer it again, I’ll just forward them this video and you can too!
But, honestly, I’ve never understood why this upsets people. This concept made sense to me 20 years before going vegan when I first saw “Vegan Orange Chicken” on a menu, was intrigued, ordered it and loved it. After that I started eating more of these mock meats. Some were awful and some were great (kinda like non-vegan food!) Also, why don’t people get mad about Peanut BUTTER, or Coconut MILK, or Cadbury EGGS, or HOT DOGS??
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[@TheeBurgerDude]

If you wanna make the Chick-fil-A Sandwich in this Video Pre-Order my Cookbook HERE: www.theeburgerdude.com/cookbook Alright, I felt like making some Vegan Chick’n so I thought I might as well answer a very common question that I know a bunch of us get. Now I never have to answer it again, I’ll just forward them this video and you can too! But, honestly, I’ve never understood why this upsets people. This concept made sense to me 20 years before going vegan when I first saw “Vegan Orange Chicken” on a menu, was intrigued, ordered it and loved it. After that I started eating more of these mock meats. Some were awful and some were great (kinda like non-vegan food!) Also, why don’t people get mad about Peanut BUTTER, or Coconut MILK, or Cadbury EGGS, or HOT DOGS?? "No ethical reason to be Vegan" I personally think not killing and exploiting animals when we don't have to is more ethical, but that's just me I guess! "Veganism isn't healthy, sustainable, affordable" Read These: www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-11-11-sustainable-eating-cheaper-and-healthier-oxford-study www.ox.ac.uk/news/2019-10-29-plant-based-foods-are-good-both-health-and-environment Your Pal, Thee Burger Dude

[@kogbechie123]

Omg last point is a great one especially peanut butter

[@moragslothe6449]

@@kogbechie123 and the part about nonvegan foods also being "some horrible, some great". Until recently there's been very few vegan meats sometimes only 1 alternative to the animal parts most of us were fed growing up. There's R&D making better ones all the time. And there are some that are their own amazing texture and flavor that resemble none in particular.

[@sakura_neko536]

@TheeBurger when are you gonna try and recreate bobs burger “bet it all on the black garlic” burger?

[@Kooma4Yew1600]

I think that if you looked up 'chicken fried tofu' you could find something in the middle of both searches

[@eliasmalam]

Thanks

[@rolosilver3256]

Honestly I feel so bad you have to give explanations for the most basic things, that others just don't understand 😂

[@designermetal1]

Nah, it's a legit question. Not everyone knows these things.

[@jahverussell2642]

@@designermetal1 I feel some non-vegans do get offended or defensive though in some way when you start calling things that are vegan by their non-vegan equivalents' name. It's like, "Hey, you can't do that, stop copying us! You can't call something that's not meat, "meat"! How dare thee! You're not fooling anybody!" or something like that...

[@tblizzi1369]

@@jahverussell2642 some people seem to feel attacked just because we exist and aren't miserable lol

[@christianhorn1999]

@@tblizzi1369 that feel when you have no valid argument angaist acting ethical except its not tHe oRigInaL. Like the children screeming "First First First".

[@IAmTheGoblin]

I think some of the comments regarding the naming are acting in good faith. This allows us to start a dialogue that will help get our message across. Trolls are gonna troll, but there are those who are genuinely curious. My own mother is a fantastic example! She asks why I have to add the vegan part before certain foods, I can then explain my reasons! Admittedly, she is acting in bad faith, but I will not give up yet.

[@FortuitousOwl]

I’m not vegan but I always found it funny when people get mad at this. The modifier adjective is there, vegan, so that means it’s not claiming to be chicken.

[@TheeBurgerDude]

I think that just means you have more than 2 brain cells 😆👍🏼

[@justaguywhoplayspayday2841]

Here's what I'm confused Im not vegan but I like vegan foods But I still eat meat, what does that make me?

[@FortuitousOwl]

@@justaguywhoplayspayday2841 an omnivore.

[@SoupEmperor]

People say vegans are so fragile and easily offended but when you call something 'vegan [insert any animal product]' non-vegans lose their minds.

[@tsavage4337]

I just think it should taste like it for it to be called that. Like I remember someone made a video calling jackfruit pulled pork and I just can’t believe it actually tasted like that. Maybe I’m wrong though

[@SoupEmperor]

@@tsavage4337 when you see some of the shit fast food chains do to chicken meat and still call it chicken, you might as well call jackfruit vegan pulled pork

[@henryclark5019]

lmfao, how is it non vegans losing their minds? I think non-vegans would understand the reference, as did the author of the video in the pinned comment. States "But, honestly, I’ve never understood why this upsets people. This concept made sense to me 20 years before going vegan when I first saw “Vegan Orange Chicken” on a menu, was intrigued, ordered it and loved it." I think the people who are upset are vegan, probably upset the name insinuates chicken is in the recipe.

[@SoupEmperor]

@@henryclark5019 @Henry Clark you're confirming my point, he's confused why it upsets non-vegans while when he was a non-vegan didn't have a problem with recognizing those products as not real animals. The people getting mad in the comments even say they're non-vegans. You wanting to blame this on the vegans doesn't automatically erase facts lol.

[@potattoggled]

ong

[@bincherito]

People really just want to be nit picky as hell when they don’t understand something

[@retrohanska4441]

More like they don't wanna understand it. They are angy and they just need a reason to justify that, no matter how nitpicky it is.

[@DBasedAlex]

“Why not call it fried tofu?” Why not call a Reuben and Philly cheesesteak a beef sandwich?

[@DeltaGamingOfficialYt]

That's the worst think you could have said bruh

[@chopinfanclub6672]

U tried to say something clever but the analogy isn’t even close to working wtf 💀

[@cooltwittertag]

@@chopinfanclub6672 It works perfectly. Fried tofu is already another dish.

[@maowwmeow]

@@cooltwittertag the problem people have with it is the use of the word "chicken" to describe something that's not chicken. so its more like calling a reuben or philly cheesesteak "broccoli sandwich"

[@proallnighter]

Chicken is an already defined ingredient. Calling a piece of fried tofu a chicken is lazy. People should come up with another name for vegan fried “chicken” sandwiches and just say they taste like chicken.

[@princessaur]

I'm not a vegan but I've never understood why "vegan meat" or "plant-based meat" makes some people so mad. Like yeah, I like animal meat too, but some people act like hating on vegans is a personality trait.

[@llllIlllIllI]

Yeah lol im vegetarian and i have met people that hate that vegan teacher but they act the exact same as her but instead of saying be vegan they keep saying eat meat

[@lotstodo]

People are weird. I love Tofu, and make meals with it all the time, usually a stir fry.

[@princessaur]

@@lotstodo Where do you buy your tofu? I feel as though I've never seen it in the average American grocery store, though maybe that's because I'm not looking for it.

[@williamsebastian853]

Some people are just insecure, or 'trigger' happy

[@ren1134]

THANK YOU. they get so defensive 😂 I don't understand why what IIIIIII eat hurts their feelings 😂 I'm minding my own business

[@jacobgillham2315]

They’re gonna kick themselves when they find out what easter eggs are made out of

[@Dvdshake]

“Why would you call this candy corn if it’s not even corn 😡”

[@BirdNoise77]

Anti vegans are louder and more annoying than actual vegans it's very funny

[@TheeBurgerDude]

It’s amazing. One thing they never tell you about going vegan. Might need to make a video about that too 😂

[@BirdNoise77]

@@TheeBurgerDude you should do it

[@rustleancar131]

all of us are annoying, but a very small amount of vegans are VERY annoying. Think ThatVeganTeacher as an example.

[@MediaTrivia]

@@rustleancar131i’m sure there’s probably 10 times more annoying non vegans than annoying vegans in the world

[@rustleancar131]

@@MediaTrivia right??? it s like we are determined to push our ideals onto them

[@Oonagh72]

Why call it vegan fried chicken? Answer: because I can, and I want to.

[@gary.420]

Sure you can, and nobody’s stopping but you’d be wrong because you know…there’s no chicken in it. That’ll be like trying to make a veggie free salad, an oxymoron.

[@unapersonav1522]

@@gary.420 I know it's an example and even though I don't agree your point can still stand BUT....a fruit salad

[@likinoke2939]

@@gary.420 🤓

[@mustytophat2307]

Ah yes if I make a burger and call it a pizza because I want to. Makes sense

[@tzurgvili9987]

Even if you can, It doesn't mean someone asked

[@MiMicheIIe]

People ask this question in bad faith. They know EXACTLY why it's called vegan chicken. Just ignore them, they know what they're doing.

[@SergyMilitaryRankings]

How is it bad faith ? It tastes nothing like fried chicken

[@davidos8760]

@@SergyMilitaryRankings because it does taste exactly like it and is healthier

[@slayer-22]

I'm not vegan and I've wondered this. It's not in bad faith to be curious.

[@he96765]

It's not bad faith lmao, it doesn't taste like chicken at all so why bother?

[@_AbhiRam_]

And Deceptive Marketing/ Blatant LYING is not in Bad faith?

[@twelvoe4205]

I don't understand the hate vegans even get. All of these questions are never of curiosity but to poke for a reaction

[@johntrad806]

People don't hate all vegans just the ones online that try to Harass and Bully people to go vegan.

[@oddysee3030]

Exactly, it’s really just the most useful way to describe things. It isn’t that deep lol

[@12012channel]

​@@miro6017 How about vegan fake ass chicken?

[@canyounot4814]

@@12012channel cuz there’s no ass in it !!!

[@Ghost____-]

@@12012channel☠️

[@potattoggled]

while it’s a pretty obvious thing, you probably explained it way better than I could

[@potattoggled]

@Johnson Howard well its basically trying to imitate chicken as best it can, so if you call it something else it doesn’t really make as much sense

[@augustuslunasol10thapostle]

​@@JohnsonHoword its named vegan fried chicken because its trying to imitate frie chicken is that. Not enough distinction

[@silvsilvsilv]

I've seen people unironically argue that since we're vegan, we shouldn't be allowed to eat anything that tries to replace animal products. Like they honestly can't wrap their heads around the fact that a lot of us still like the texture and flavor of these products, but don't want to support an industry that harms animals.

[@christianhorn1999]

Funny statement when i see them turning beautiful beings into grey tasteless goop

[@shamanllama]

i have been vegetarian and fruitarian but if you think about it, it makes sense. why would you want to eat something that tastes like animals if you're not eating animals? in that context, seems counterintuitive.

[@pphyr5010]

@@shamanllama Because it's not the flavor people have an issue with, it's the eating of animals

[@shamanllama]

@@pphyr5010 ???? Duh. I'm saying if you don't want to eat animals, usually because you don't want them to suffer, ENJOYING the flavor of DEAD ANIMALS logistically makes no sense. i used to eat meat replacers all the time as a vegetarian, i am just saying technically i see where people come from when they are confused, because it really technically does not make sense for a vegan who is vegan out of compassion to enjoy anything that reminds them of animal products. it would make more sense to eat more whole and raw and do soups and stir fried and not fake burgers and fake cheese and fake corn dogs

[@gary.420]

So you like the taste of dead animals, but you rather have fake dead animal taste so you don’t feel guilty for the animals that are still being slaughtered worldwide and providing food for billions?

[@p1ckl3ju1c3]

Tbh, one of the best benefits of living here on the west coast is that more varieties of food are more readily available.

[@Ax-xo4ux]

I probably won’t ever go vegan (I won’t share my reasons as they’re personal)- however your channel has helped me incorporate more plant based protein and meals into my diet!

[@rebbi8548]

This question is always so stupid to me. It’s like asking „why call it fake fur if it isn’t fur but actually synthetic fiber“. BECAUSE IT IS MEANT TO EMULATE THE REAL THING YOU DINGUS

[@TheeBurgerDude]

Added points for the use of dingus.

[@slimetank394]

Ikr? It's like saying "why call it 'Mona Lisa'? This is just paints smeared onto a canvas! Call it what it is!!!"

[@skulshuta6460]

Why would you emulate eating meat if you ethically don't eat it or actively dislike meat tho?

[@kurosalty4675]

@@skulshuta6460 why do you assume that the people who buy these things dislike the taste of meat? And why do you assume that just because someone doesn’t want to eat animals they also must hate the taste of food they grew up with? None of these things are mutually exclusive

[@dinmamma9330]

​@@skulshuta6460 Testing which ones of us who can't resist virtue signalling or are you genuinely wondering? (Lol, asking that like I actually care and not because I have a bad habit of feeding trolls for funsies 🤣 Anyways;) To most people the meat isn't the problem. It's what you have to do to get the meat that is. Veganism is about reducing the amount of suffering you cause, not just disliking eating meat. I won't consume some plant-based products either because they cause too much suffering to the people producing them. Luckily, most of the time I can throw money at the problem and buy "ethically produced" products (yeah, I know it's not always true people are a-holes lol). Meat isn't really possible to produce in a way that I and my fellow vegans feel is ethical enough to justify doing it though, outside of perhaps maybe growing it in a lab or something, so we do the next best thing and substitute it. You see, I was a butcher before I went vegan. I like the taste, smell and texture of meat and I do not mind killing and eating an animal I lovingly cared for from the day it was born if I need to, but I refuse to do it for pleasure or convenience. I'm blessed in that my need is never great enough to justify ending another life. Still like meat tho, but the plant-based substitutes keep my cravings at bay effortlessly. Does that answer your question?

[@HornyKoala]

I mean if we’re going to nitpick over names, why are smoked dead pig slices called bacon?

[@generalen3737]

Did you seriously ask why we name food?, like imagine having too call a ketchup: crushed and mixed tomatoes with salt, sugar and a verity of other spices” each time, the reason people don’t like calling vegan food the same as meat food is because it’s confusing. Imagine buying what you think is a hamburger patty, just too come home, cook it and realise it’s a vegetable patty. It said hamburger patty on the package but in small print vegan somewhere. Chicken is a animal and can thus not be vegan, so just make up a new name is what we want so people can easily find there preferred food.

[@tatiana4050]

@@generalen3737 it never says in small print vegan. Because it being vegan is the selling point. Actually there is opposite situation that happened to me. There was a burger that was 50:50, meat and vegetable protein, cause its common here for meat eaters to try to cut down on meat consumption. And it was like "green burger" and I almost bought it thinking its vegetarian. And exactly chicken cannot be vegan so if it says "vegan chicken" it's clearly not chicken.

[@abdulmalik6405]

@@tatiana4050 nahh dude his point still remains he is saying you guys should make a new name for vegan things this way no one will get confused

[@baoq.b2287]

@@tatiana4050 because it isn't chicken? Like "fake meat", by adding an adjective, you change/make additional meaning to the accompanying noun? As words are defined by humans, it is assumed that "vegan chicken" is some sort of fake meat made similar to the form and texture of chicken.

[@falcon_arkaig]

@@baoq.b2287 Vegan meat is literally just what you said it is. It's fake meat meant to taste like meat. Everyone knows what vegan means, so why make up a new word for it? It makes no sense.

[@evelynmeenan2608]

Okay but all that aside, fried mushrooms are actually pretty fire

[@navchinna]

Facts

[@Irish_Mann]

Fried chicken't

[@reetan3830]

this! im allergic to chicken but still indulge lightly so using that term, looking for it locally too is the easiest rather thatm fried tofu, mushrooms, and whatnot

[@laughingbulbasaur3291]

I'm not sure if I'd try it since I'm incredibly picky, but that's one of the best looking "chicken" sandwiches I've ever seen.

[@captaincrunch3720]

I'm not vegan but I do believe in consuming less meat and finding alternatives that are both good and better for you. In my experience king trumpet mushrooms do an excellent job as mock chicken. The flavor is much lighter than other mushrooms and the texture becomes chewy, juicy and flaky like real chicken when seasoned and fried properly. I also discovered those same mushrooms make a great "scallop" and "shrimp" replacement 😋. Also if you ever get a chance try tomatoes sushi. Some recipes miss the mark but when you have one that hits it's nice to keep it stashed for lighter meals or meatless Mondays.

[@ak0e]

It's for the people that KNOW what chicken used to taste like. Not for those who don't want the flavor, not to entice vegans into eating actual chicken either. Edit- Quorn (in my tastebuds opinion) makes the best spicy chik'n product.

[@AnonsTreasures]

I feel very bad if you are vegan and remember the taste of meat

[@marcya4428]

@@AnonsTreasures we'll that's most vegans but go off

[@morningivy9006]

It's like getting upset at imitation crab for having the word crab in it. Or rice milk for having the word milk in it.

[@izzulirfan2984]

So you know it taste good

[@geemy9675]

@@morningivy9006 I find it very upsetting that imitation crab has no crab, but at least "imitation" is clear. calling them crab sticks is way more upsetting

[@EzBrand10]

That is the correct amount of sauce. Good job.

[@cinissanguis6836]

This also made me realise that some people seem to oddly be "gatekeeping" meat dish names which is just odd lol

[@Bry-bo2bf]

A big ass mushroom would slap even if you aren't vegan

[@Bry-bo2bf]

Wit ranch

[@thecanmanification]

It honestly doesn’t need clearing up but everyone has this childish hatred of veganism that comes from like 2010 era internet memes.

[@vegangelo_29]

TRUEEEEEE. Okay, I must admit, I was a vegan hater- a hardcore vegan hater, and, of course a hardcore conservative. But I just recently challenged my perspective on vegans and tried to listen and fact check their arguments. Turns out, vegans' arguments are valid and scientific, all this time. Mockery and hatred from conservatives are among the reasons why vegans sound unscientific, idealistic, and invalid for gullible people, when they're not. I am still a meat eater, but I'm planning and striving to go vegan. December 2022, I was still a vegan hater. Now, it's March 7, 2023, just 3 months apart, and everything flipped. It's so sudden. I am now a vegan supporter.

[@thecanmanification]

@@vegangelo_29 I was the same honestly. I thought vegans were pretentious and stand-offish. I realised that I was just consuming a lot of conservative memes and most vegans don’t even make it a big deal. They literally have to bring it up if you like invite them for a meal but other than that most of them aren’t pushing an agenda. I’m glad you had a similar experience as I did, where you actually question your beliefs. I’m a full on leftist now lol

[@burgbass]

People hate what they don’t know. Honestly if veganism was more commonly discussed outside of bad faith jokes or such alike, I feel like at least a fair sum of more people would be more accepting of it.

[@florranightwalker]

From what I've seen on the internet a lot of people have just had really bad experiences with vegan online. Lots of these vegan are run and stand offish to people who eat meat and try to act high amd mighty about it. Like the vegan teacher and such so honestly i get why people are kinda rude.

[@outdoorscholar6016]

I think the current hate towards vegans are ones who go overboard with it, the ones who confirm the stereotypes. I don’t mind veganism, in fact I’d be ok if it was served to me. I do mind when select individuals try to guilt trip me for eating an animal, that just makes me want to eat a whole chicken

[@Cah_Alves]

I wasn't a big chicken nugget kid when I used to eat meat, I always found them boring, but once I turned vegetarian the vegan ones were one of the first meat alternatives thing to show up where I live, and I was so surprised with how good they were, definitely one of my favorites, often make them when I'm too lazy to cook elaborate stuff

[@das8.kapitel260]

Yes. They're amazing. A shop near me had some and like vegan meat balls and they were so good, that my whole family favoured them, even over meat originals.

[@cruja8399]

I always WALWAYS get the vegan chicken. Ist so much better when the og one. Even my brother likes it when I share with him

[@MajinUber]

Basically it's common sense

[@kishinumaayumi]

Gosh this arguement is so annoying srsly.. it's a vegan *substitute* of the food, so they name is vegan *enter food name here*. There. Why are people so elitist suddenly when it comes to the name of foods? People who are genuinely just curious imare fine but people just suddenly so caught up on vegans naming the food they're substituting approriately and throwing a fit over it

[@wihdinheim0]

It's more of a shape and flavour thing. Chicken nuggets don't exactly exist in the nature either, it's just applying a similar process to create shapes and pleasant flavours. Instead of mashing a chicken and forming it into the breaded nugget shape while *flavouring it with plants like garlic, onion, bell peppers, cayenne and cumin,* we're just simplifying it by only mashing plant-based ingredients. Just because the process was popularized by meat industry doesn't give it the exclusive rights to the name. Same applies to sausages, patties, mince, etc. Using the chicken name in the title is also a consumer thing. It's funny how no one bat an eye when we called it coconut milk but for some reason almond and oat milk gets the oaf crowd triggered.

[@dww6]

How would you feel about "meat based vegan chicken" Go back to basics with pink goo chicken nuggets which have that nasty vegan taste.

[@kishinumaayumi]

​​​@@dww6 it would just not make sense then. Because meat based vegan chicken is just chicken. Its not substituting anything. Vegan chicken/vegan meat is literally telling you what they are trying to substitute/emulate. That's like getting mad over a plastic car being called a "toy car" because it isnt made of the same material real cars are.. Toy and vegan are descriptive/adjectives and then the noun behind it are telling you what they assimilate. "Why call it a toy car? Call it toy processed and molded plastic to look like a car!" That's what this arguement sounds like.

[@dww6]

@@kishinumaayumi I'm trying to emulate the unsatisfying taste of vegan alternatives using meat (it's theoretical but is the exact same thing). Why would I do that? Pretty much just to prove a point (although perhaps if I was doing a buffet I could convince people to eat the vegan stuff if the meat stuff is crap). Why would a food manufacturer do that? Soy is far cheaper than chicken. (weird that price is never reflected in these things)

[@kishinumaayumi]

@@dww6 ok u go do that, then? Like if u dont like meat subs then dont eat them.. likewise, people like meat subs so they eat them

[@LiLiCannotFly]

Ngl, straight up baked tofu strips are actually fire. Like, if you season ‘em right and get the measurements correct, they are so good and they’re crispy! (But i get that that would get boring or something lol)

[@antidotebrain69]

I love tofu curry and stur fry. It's genuinely good food. I'm not vegan but i can get behind good food.

[@cozycasasmr4510]

I do this but with blocks instead of strips, and put it in soup like croutons. It's amazing

[@AvgLila.]

This is probably the nicest vegan person I've met. 😁

[@Damarai_]

Fr every vegan I meat is always mad i eat meat and is trying to shove their diet and the fact that they are vegan down my throat

[@swork7193]

90% of em’ are nice, people just really enjoy fucking with their ideals, shaming them for wanting to prevent a strangely “justified” mass killing.

[@GoingInsane]

This is the only normal vegan I have seen 😂

[@AvgLila.]

@@GoingInsane same tbh

[@goferboy2374]

You’ve met?

[@mildlydumbperson8465]

Im not vegan but MAN its silly to see people go like "tf yall doing eating meat that aint even real"

[@rockstarskolas]

The grocery store near my house always puts the vegan “meats” in the produce section. It never fails to make me laugh

[@BuyJiafeiyassifiedpr0ducts]

@@andrewstachowski3375 So you don't want stores to sell plant based products?

[@ginomontella9429]

​@@andrewstachowski3375 i'm not even vegan but that sounds pathetic

[@grantmccoy6739]

They're just trolls. Everyone gets it, it's obvious. But you handled it well. Stay classy. 😎

[@RF_N]

"it's obvious" americans exist, y'know

[@antagonisticalex401]

@@RF_N yeah we might have to make an exception for their exceptionally dumb asses. You're right.

[@fijiman8868]

Not really i asked this question out of genuine curiosity idk what goes on in a vegans minds so i wanted to know what their logic behind calling something meat even though your not supposed to eat meat

[@grantmccoy6739]

@@fijiman8868 it's not that hard to understand. Basically, it's meant to replace meat in the meal. It's not practical to say, textured vegetable protein, or whatever similar technical term. But yeah, it's arguing semantics to say, "but I thought vegans were opposed to eating meat", because it's not meat, it's just easier to call it by what it's supposed to be replacing. Like vegan sausage or vegan chicken. You could use the same for vegetarian foods. Like veggie burgers.

[@fijiman8868]

@@grantmccoy6739 i understand that now the best thing i could compare it to 2+2=4(vegans calling things meat) i had no idea why it was like that but i knew it was i asked the teacher(a vegan) a question to find out why and explains it using bottle caps or some other object back then i had no idea why things were like that but now that i do it is obvious to me and other people who know why it doesnt help vegans are horribly misrepresented and given a bad name by people who try to force veganism like the vegan teacher while most vegans who are not as popular seem like regualr cool ppl and really care what you eat

[@OrderoftheWarlocks]

you KNOW i'm scrolling through newest first comments and watching the shit show.

[@whokilledangel]

the comment that said “vegan chicken is an oxymoron.” 😂😂

[@dodoextinct4597]

I'm not vegan but I can appreciate the effort of people who are vegan for environmental and ethical reasons. Keep going strong 💪

[@toxiczombiewolf5692]

And handel the expenses it's so expensive for such a small amount insane.

[@HandsomeHybrid]

As an omnivore. I do get annoyed with vegan & vegetarian food called after animal protein foods when it is plant based! Anyways... People can eat and call it what they want. Just as a consumer and home chef I want to know what I'm eating or being served... Bon appetite!

[@GOUdamn]

True

[@GOUdamn]

@@HandsomeHybrid 🤨

[@Crygear]

​@@GOUdamn 🗿🗿🗿

[@yaboifabio2979]

My only complaint with calling it “chicken” is it really puts it off for any non vegan, as a meat eater who’s happily with a vegetarian I’ll gladly eat some veggie chicken patties, I just can’t picture it as real chicken since the taste and texture isn’t ever the same to me. If I think of vegan stuff as just another food opposed to replacement meat it makes me like it all lol

[@1235bmu]

i know exactly how you feel. i also get his point of coming as close as possible to a non-vegan product but still i would really prefer if these things were labled as " vegen fried chicken replica" or something along those lines. cause technically you cant even name the items "vegan (animal product)" cause it contradicts itself

[@jadaw644]

​@@1235bmu It's a simple matter of that nott being 'snappy'. Having to call something 'vegan chicken replica' everytime you mention it is more of a mouthful than just saying vegan chicken. Plus, most packaging does usually specify in smaller text.

[@obarasama]

Vegan chicken patties

[@michaeldschutte]

​@Jada W just call it fake chicken. Easier to say and more accurate than "replica"

[@acupofcoffee9082]

I’d stay away from impossible. I saw a report about how absolutely gross their facilities are.

[@saynne4882]

Let me just get beans and tomatoes so I can make a chocolate-free chocolate cake

[@Saltonthewound]

​@@miro6017 ayo kinda sus 🤨🤨🤨

[@suckedintothevoid]

Brownies made with black beans are delicious, chocolatey, and fudgy beyond belief. I've never been vegan but it's one of my favorite recipes; it just happens to not contain any animal products. Nothing wrong with that.

[@nyohohoo]

I love how he explain this in a calm and informative way while making the food. I must say it looks so delicious

[@austin2593]

Yo one time I tried a vegan burger without knowing and imma be honest, that shit was bussing. Better than real meat.

[@jorbianrox22]

im not vegan but i love watching these videos because it really shows that being vegan isnt as gross as people imagine it and most of the food on your channel makes my mouth drool!

[@zerothefool2399]

"Why call it vegan chicken instead of fried tofu or fried mushrooms?" Because, as a non-vegan myself, "vegan chicken" makes a much better connection in my head than "fried tofu" or "fried mushrooms" does.

[@TheeBurgerDude]

Thank you for being able to use more than 2 brain cells lol!

[@taylorreed1580]

Can you do a countdown video for your cookbook release date, doing a couple of recipes from the cookbook? Kind of like a live preview of what to expect?

[@TheeBurgerDude]

Yes, will be doing stuff like that. I made the Mexican Pizza from the book a month or so ago!

[@alexisrene5854]

I don’t understand how that wasn’t automatically understood 😂

[@IAmTheGoblin]

The same way many people cannot understand why one would be an Atheist. It is difficult for most to see beyond their own knowledge and life. I believe that sharing this information can allow us to start a conversation with those who will discuss in good faith. For many, moral consumption is an afterthought. After all, it is incredibly rare for someone to be a vegan from birth. Most of us consumed animal products before making the switch. For those who don't practise veganism, it is a strange concept. Simply because it goes against what is viewed as "normal"! Going against the grain is not always easy to understand from an outside perspective. It's when you have to deal with folk who feel the need to double down on animal consumption and belittle our personal choice... that's when we have issues. You ignore those people. They aren't worth the energy to engage with. Always approach someone as if they are genuinely curious, not just trolling. Inform without preaching. Educate without shaming. Nobody wants to deal with a sales person. I hope you have a lovely evening and keep fighting the good fight for our animal friends!

[@michaelb4415]

Just a comment to remind you that doom scrolling through KZbin shorts is an awful way to use up your time. Go to sleep, or continue working, or whatever else you should be doing right now.

[@tom9507]

Thanks king

[@mattireson866]

You're doing God's work mate

[@Dja480]

Yo mate, you forgot this 👑

[@seignee]

you literally saved me 30 minutes of my life, thank you. shits a bad habit i swear

[@cosneanumatei5117]

No. My ass been studying torso muscle insertions and origins for over 4 fucking hours now. I need a break.

[@camerontaylor1552]

It's actually crazy that you have to explain the most basic rationality to people

[@whenthebughits9356]

there’s this place by my house called seitans realm and oh my god they have the most realistic vegan burger i’ve ever had. they make it with seitan and some random other sauces and it’s heavenly. it’s so filling i can barely finish half of it, and it tastes almost exactly like a burger

[@denisemarie741]

When I first started eating vegan there were almost no packaged vegan foods .We had to shop at health food stores and co ops .The grocery stores had no tofu or anything else. We made all our meals from scratch . Grew our own sprouts for live protein . There was one vegan ice cream rice dream the flavors were few and only one was really good the lemon was like custard .We froze over ripe bananas and put in a blender with a chilled metal cup for delicious ice scream ( our name for it ) and we made pop corn for a crunchy treat !!! I was so healthy and everyone noticed how different I looked in a good healthy way !!! If you wanted cookies you had to make it yourself!!!❤❤❤

[@FerociousMit]

I still see no point in eating fake food. We spent decades criticizing those who bought "fake processed meats" that were literal meat, but not as good as what people called "real meat" and this is no different. You have super processed veggies that look like meat. That surely was processed much further than our processed meats.

[@allisterghoul]

i don’t have any issues with vegans or vegetarians or anything, i think it’s wonderful, but being an environmental sustainability major, eating chicken doesn’t have much impact on the environment. if you look at charts or pictures online about agriculture and animal water consumption, chickens are usually at the bottom of the list. it actually takes more water to produce eggs than to raise a chicken which i think is kinda silly :3 unlike cows, which take soooooo much water to produce beef, cows produce massive amounts of greenhouse gasses, and their milk also has to be processed really well and have water and vitamin d added in order to be sold or else people may get sick and it won’t have any health benefits. also, this wasn’t intended to be any sort of retort, this is just me being a sustainability major and talking about things i learned that relate to something he said :)

[@annak1542]

Thank you so much for explaining what us vegans feel like in such a cohesive way! It's so tiring to get asked questions like this all the time and people usually never like the explanation haha

[@Clickclips1234]

I get this question sometimes like “you miss the taste of chicken don’t you” and I’m just like yeah I do so that’s why I eat vegan chicken it literally taste just as good (you just have to pick the right products)

[@sparkyblue7016]

Agreed, I'm a non vegetarian but vegan chicken does taste very good 😋

[@mspaint93]

It's one of the dumbest 'gotchas', because it's logic basically boils down to "well if you like something then you should consume it because your personal pleasure outweighs any other values you have or any other person/animals/things wellbeing". It just makes me think someone has zero self control or is incredibly unempathetic/selfish, as well as being kinda stupid assuming all people think like that. Like you know what Id also miss the taste of, eating 3 Maccas combos washed down with a litre of champagne, but I'm also not going to eat that as there's consequences to my diet other than taste!

[@Clickclips1234]

@@mspaint93 exactly

[@icarus4302]

Honestly let's talk about how good the food he makes looks

[@francestorres4292]

Let's give respect to this guy for becoming even better than the vegan teacher

[@monroerobbins7551]

Honestly, I’m glad you explained this, cause you put into words what some may understand intuitively, but others may not. :) it’s good to talk about, even if in a short, cause it’s not a big issue, but it is a talking point that some may consider something to ponder

[@justchilling5448]

People who get all stressed and say “it’s not chicken, don’t call it chicken!” Make me laugh, because they never seem to have an issue with hotdogs or hamburgers .

[@lmujij]

YOU'RE TELLING ME THIS DISH ISN'T MADE OF OVERHEATED CANINES ?

[@jonajo9757]

"They're not hotdogs, they're a conglomerate of pig and or cattle pieces ground into a fine paste and mixed with herbs and spices that's all stuffed in intestine."

[@signity5540]

A ‘hamburger’ is named after the city of Hamburg, it is not alluring to there being ham inside of it.

[@Bambingobongo]

This video made me see the level of intelligence most individuals on the internet are working with.

[@mrknesiah]

Don’t let the sociopathic trolls bother you.

[@MattBnl2ih]

I think sociopathic may be a tad bit extremely fucking extreme

[@mrknesiah]

@@MattBnl2ih Being sociopathic is actually extreme. Maybe good to stop.

[@commentateur-connaisseur-c1414]

​@@mrknesiah He meant that calling trolls sociopathic is a reach.

[@mrknesiah]

@@commentateur-connaisseur-c1414 The psychology of being a troll is lack of empathy and remorse ... basically someone who enjoys causing discomfort and mental anguish.

[@coreyoleary7089]

Environmental reasons 😂

[@coreyoleary7089]

@Binding the environmental impact from vegan food is far greater than any form of meat production. I'm all for people having a vegan diet although people should be doing it for the right reasons and not reasons that just aren't real.

[@Saltonthewound]

​@Binding goofy

[@HeyDaki]

​@@coreyoleary7089It's sad that people like you are allowed to have opinions :(

[@elytraman1809]

Not gonna cap, I’m not vegan but tofu can be straight fire, you just gotta cook it right

[@thekrispiestkreme5609]

Ngl a chicken fried giant mushroom cap over a creamy Honey dill with fresh pickles and slaw would Be FIRE rn

[@kennethmaese4622]

True dat 🎉

[@InconvenientGoat]

Im not vegan but I enjoy some vegan foods, they aren’t that bad. People say “oh it’s nothing like the real thing” but they’re pretty damn close

[@cronchcrunch7287]

The fact that you have to explain this just shows how slow people are

[@lyssarida236]

I wish there was no need for explanation

[@mankayguralla829]

I'm not vegan and probably won't ever be vegan but I respect vegans like you not forcing it on people and just showing your cooking n shit like that.

[@TakenSoulFromUs]

So many KZbinrs have to explain themselves in these KZbin shorts over babies

[@Treehacker]

Even as a non-vegan it baffles me how much people hate on vegans and the food they eat. I love a nice steak as much as the next guy but you can’t deny some vegan food is just great

[@FlorFlorifera]

We wouldn't care. If they didn't act as superior to the rest of the world, didn't comment on others' food choices and didn't try to convince others to stop eating meat and dairy. Really, many of them behave like a cult trying to get new members. That's what people are tired of and retaliate by comments on the same level.

[@robyfaraa4105]

its just funny because they like the taste of animals then lol

[@Treehacker]

@@robyfaraa4105 people don’t go vegan because they hate the taste of animals it’s for other reasons like for the environment or health reasons. They can still like the taste of it without wanting to eat it

[@robyfaraa4105]

​@@Treehacker wait so they like the taste of dead animals? thats funny as hell.

[@jonajo9757]

​@@robyfaraa4105 Why is it ironic that vegans and more tolerable than "meat eaters" or what ever label they use? Let the guys eat their plants.

[@kiwiflavoredfrog]

Damn now I'm craving a vegan chickn sandwich 😩

[@teopalafox]

I’m craving kfc

[@Lin-ij9vk]

And I'm craving a fried chicken sandwhich

[@baghouse2678]

I'm craving any type of chicken idfc

[@dustux]

Y'all want to start an argument

[@slimetank394]

​​@@dustux with who?

[@Mosaic117]

Ethics are for nerds. I once shot and ate a rabbit and it was the most delicious thing I ever ate

[@Negeroman]

True but i think that animals should live a happy life before getting killed so in your example you did nothing wrong unless it was a young rabbit

[@RetroEgg2]

There is actually a edible mushroom called laetiporus OR forest chicken

[@demoneon9527]

Damn you now I have the biggest craving for fried mushrooms

[@robmckennie4203]

it seems like the answer to "why not call it fried tofu or fried mushrooms" is "because it's not tofu or mushrooms" but i was still left wondering what it actually is lmao

[@MsJamiePBD]

@Thee Burger Dude I live your content I’m one of your subs and I use several of your recipes on m y non-vegan family members and friends as it’s easier to get them to try foods they’re familiar with. And also we really don’t have to continue explaining ourselves. We not asking carnivores why the call ham-burgers, hamburgers when beef comes from a cow and not a pig. Ham is pork; which derives from a pig. And actually if they research the term Vegan meat it’s called meat alternatives/ meat substitutes and we are just shortening the term. Because we can. Thee Burger Dude please don’t let these trolls get to you. These people are unhappy and miserable and unhappy, miserable people like to spread negativity. As they do have the option of NOT watching your content. 🤔 Thee Burger Dude, you’re doing an awesome job. I appreciate you. Blessings! 🙏🏾😌

[@OSCARMlLDE]

It's so important to remember that we made words up and so we get to choose how to use them!

[@DidiTheCoolio]

yeah vegans created words

[@Harbinger_Raven]

@@DidiTheCoolio everyone did, that's what a language is

[@augustfuller3396]

"Why not call it fried tofu?" Why not call a steak cooked animal muscles? Also, fried tofu is already a thing and it's good

[@rhoaias7404]

You can call crispy fried tofu

[@frankchen4229]

@@rhoaias7404 that's another dish

[@slimetank394]

​@@rhoaias7404 you do know you can fry any type of tofu crispy, right?

[@-Milkman-2037]

Honestly as someone who has always struggled to understand I do very much appreciate this video explanation.

[@awesomebydefault3877]

How did you struggle to understand that tho???

[@-Milkman-2037]

@@awesomebydefault3877 you right I should just know everything my fault 😂

[@suckedintothevoid]

Thank you for sharing that this helped you instead of getting immediately defensive or upset ♥

[@GabrielMirandaLima-hv7oe]

as an ex cannibal, where can I find vegan human heart?

[@TheeBurgerDude]

Probably need to make it yourself since there isn't much demand for it to warrant a store bought product.

[@Irish_Mann]

​@@TheeBurgerDude The fact that you commented this so chill is so funny

[@MrHandsomeboynow]

If you’re talking to a fellow vegan, you don’t call it vegan fried chicken. When we talk to non vegans, we call it vegan fried chicken, the vegan version of fried chicken.

[@IDontWantThisStupidHandle]

I've been vegan for over a decade, and my hubby is also vegan. However, I was vegan for a long time before meeting him, or really having any vegan friends. As a result of always talking with non-vegans, I've gotten so used to saying "vegan cheese" , or "vegan this, vegan that" that I constantly tell the hubby: "we need vegan cheese," or "we need vegan butter" . Every time, he says "you don't have to say 'vegan'!" xD

[@MrHandsomeboynow]

@@IDontWantThisStupidHandle hey, early August makes 10 years for me too! For some reason we call almost all proteins “vegan”. If it’s tvp or seitan, we’ll tell the kids “eat your vegan”. Idk… 😬

[@copyclaim]

not a fan of vegan food but god damn this makes my mouth water

[@WhiteDragonTile]

People are confused by vegan chicken or vegan cheese because "how can you call it that since it isn't chicken/cheese" but are perfectly ok with fake leather or fake grass. Some products don't tell you what they are, but rather what they are meant to substitute or imitate.

[@Lethai.]

we can’t lie, we’re so used to call it fried (meat name) or just vegan (meat name) that we got it over the internet, even though it’s not true

[@tatiana4050]

"How dare you call it burger, burger is meat" Like I get "don't call it steak or wings" But burger is a type of dish, like chicken burger, fish burger, steak burger, fillet burger.

[@toruuchii]

Im not vegan but damn meat alternatives just taste so darn good i love fried tofu sm

[@Breezy824]

I thought it was because it sounded more appetizing

[@userK77920]

Exactly! I don't get the hate over fake chicken. I ain't vegan but I seriously don't understand. It looks good and it didn't hurt any animal

[@idgamingfederation202]

the impossible nuggies are amazingly good. and the gardein Ultimate plant-based chick'n filets are outstanding for sandwiches. counter top convection oven aka an air fryer are you best route. and if you can, get the ones at your H-E-Bs or what have you, fast food plant based meat replacers aren't the best way to dip your toes into this, namely because they most often use their own brand seasoning profile and it is a lot better when you can season to your own liking at home. also at home they won't be swimming in frier grease sweating under a heat lamp becoming dry and rubbery or taking on the flavor of everything the oil has touched.

[@brandonatkins9087]

I'm going to start selling meat based plants. Pre order now and get free meat carrots

[@ClassyCuber]

I'll be your first customer.

[@oddysee3030]

stealing an old Arby’s joke is so cringe it’s almost based

[@AnotherHaloGamer]

THAT LOOKS BETTER THAN REAL MEAT?!?!

[@RockieC1]

People think way too hard about this kind of thing, it’s bc it’s battered LIKE “chicken” notice the spelling chickUN? It’s UN chicken meaning it’s not real chicken. Come on people use your brains. Meat eaters are fine with calling hot dogs dogs even tho it’s not a real dog…

[@Carnivora8]

I feel bad for vegans, homies are just doing the best they can to make the world a better place and get clowned on because of people like thatveganteacher

[@Nazareth07.]

I respect them for that I just don't respect veganism as an idea because it doesn't work. Morally I'm fine with but other than that I can't respect it and to be honest the morality scenario is more than likely going to be the reasons somebody turned vegan to begin with. But anything else I don't respect it.

[@hawk1515]

I know right?

[@aronkim7105]

@@Nazareth07. I respect the people that go vegan because I lnow it is not easy since a lot of places don't have options and if they do they are most of the times more expensive. But to me the answer is always moderately. I think starting by having one meatless day per week is a "fun" challenge more so if you like cooking and you can expand your knowledge. But yeah I also think people generally eat way to much meat, and moderating it is the best way for me. And obviously not wasting food, any kind is a good thing to do in general.

[@DiamondHoe]

thatveganteacher is 100% a troll. Gets ton of attention and makes vegan people look bad. Surprised nobody figured it like nikocado

[@exeterman2]

@@Nazareth07. in what way does veganism not work?

[@better-call-me123]

He looks like a vegan vsauce, This guy is awesome👍🏾

[@interloper17]

Dont most schools use soy for their chicken pattys and nuggets?

[@stickmouse5002]

lmao

[@veganradiation]

The impact your channel has had on me as a vegan activist cannot be overstated, and I laud you for the work you do in spreading the message of compassion and empathy.

[@prancinNOOB]

Fried mushrooms are so good though.

[@TheeBurgerDude]

Agreed, but there's many different ways to prepare them, this is just more descriptive.

[@moragslothe6449]

And you can find great recipes online by searching for fried "mushrooms" 🍄

[@moragslothe6449]

Basically bc IT IS. People know that nowadays 4 out of 5 times they probably couldn't tell the difference. So trolls are probably projecting a bit of guilt lol. Great video as always! 👍

[@AnonsTreasures]

That's definitely not true, they taste better now but I've had a plethora of "beyond" or substitute meat products and none of them taste like the actual meat.

[@seraramsbotton781]

😆