"Why Change It!" Has Wokeness Tanked Thomas The Tank Engine?

[@talktv]

After the creator of Thomas the Tank Engine said the show's reputation has been tarnished by its American reboot, is it time we stopped meddling with classic children's TV?

[@run2cat4run]

No it’s capitalism it about making money

[@jackrlmiller]

Definitely yes! They should stop meddling with Thomas and cancel the reboot. The show's legacy and reputation is tarnished and ruined.

[@charliesand573]

Firstly, as an American, I'd like to apologize for what we've done to this beloved work of railway fiction. Secondly, given Britt's little Magic Railroad movie, she really doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to preserving the reputation of a beloved children's show.

[@AndrewHager02]

As another American, I say we leave an entirely new take on the “Thomas the Tank Engine” franchise to professionals who *know* the lore of the Railway Series top to bottom, like Andrew Brenner, Michael White, Ian McCue, TheUnluckyTug, The Buried Truck, and most of all, members of the Awdry Family interested in keeping the legacy of Reverend Wilbert Vere Awdry’s work, as well as Christopher’s, alive and kicking. And if a new generation of the Railway Series can be written and published, then *please* no more executive meddling!

[@BIG_RED_PRODUCTIONS_official]

I'm only saying this because the phantoms annoyed you got it wrong a man named Reverend Wilbert Audrey is responsible for bringing the characters to life on the pages Brit all Croft the person you claim to be the creator of the show is the creator of the show not the characters

[@andyaccount]

Britt Allcroft didn't create Thomas the Tank Engine, Rev W. Awdry did. Britt Allcroft brought the rights to the Railway Stories and created the series Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends, Get your wording right

[@nelissa29ify]

Doesn't Matter if it mean that She can Save the Show, That's Fine

[@charliesand573]

@@nelissa29ify *Points to the Magic Railroad* I would not trust her to save anything.

[@JevRango]

I mean she created the TV Series for Thomas and Friends, The late Reverend Wilbert Awdry had created the book publications for The Railway Series till his death in 1997.

[@SLanceB_Ps_Multifandom]

I'm glad that there are people who know the truth about the actual creation of this series.

[@SaigeErasmus]

And the news guy had the audacity to say that Britt Alcraft made Awdry's books "better." To give credit where credit is due Britt made the show great, but Awdry told a more realistic story and got harsher consequences, making the engines learning their lesson a little more believable

[@loogiman8491]

"Once the Americans get a hold of it, the entire series will be vulgarized and ruined" -Rev. W. Awdry

[@alistairsanchogarcia115]

I guess Rev. W. Awdry predicted it

[@FreighttrainDaniel1225]

Unfortunately

[@NealMouse9140]

As a American, they should just go on ahead and probably cancel the reboot of Thomas. Because I don't think none of the kids over here likes the new one. I think they prefer the old one instead.

[@Thomas-Shorts]

I agree!

[@andydoms2001]

Took the words right out of my mouth.

[@NWRGreen5Productions]

Yes! Exactly! I loved watching the model series over the C G I, even though I liked the face animations better because I liked the overall look of the models better, plus the stories were sooooo much better. And comparing the new show with even the C G I, you can clearly see how much worse it is. I just hope when the Thomas & Friends movie comes out that they return to an adaptation of the books (Hopefully with extremly realistic looking C G I models).

[@XzanderTheGreenTankEngine]

Yes

[@bernardothetankengine7218]

ME TOO

[@backstagestudios8616]

I don’t blame Britt Allcroft for being annoyed with AEG. It’s sad to see what Thomas is like nowadays.

[@JevRango]

I know right, Mattel had ruined the Thomas that we all knew from Childhood.

[@vanessasandoval96]

@@JevRangoyeah Mattel had been making reboots of Bob the Builder and Barney happening in 2024 so you liked the original Barney better then Mattel

[@harrisonallen651]

As a die hard Thomas fan, the show has certainly lost its magic due to Mattel coming in and canceling the original show giving us a shitty reboot that no one asked for!

[@EricTron]

Thomas would be better off in the hands of Hasbro tbh

[@elizabethmiles9238]

@@EricTronI Agree With You 100 Percent

[@danialhamilton7666]

Or better yet a independent team of writers

[@SammySesame]

Eh, the reason why they canceled the show because of the big BWBA change not being successful.

[@claredyson9936]

Im an 80's kid. When i heard about the fat controller name being banned i was so angry. Its not Thomas the Tank engine its a copy cat!!! They should stop changing what isn't broken. How are kids supposed to learn anything about the real world and how to deal with life.

[@Duncan_official456]

Wilbert Awdry would not be proud of thomas nowadays..

[@VirgoShelter]

They didn't have to insult the Railway Series like that

[@elizabethmiles9238]

@VirgoShelter Sexy Anime Girl Picture 😍😍🥰🥰😘😘

[@Dolgoch]

​@@elizabethmiles9238 Get a life bro.

[@chriscarr3916]

It's awful. Ruined! Brilliant the original children's TV show. I loved it as a kid. This new show is NOT Thomas.

[@LBKidsGaming]

I find it funny how the guy says it's just trying to keep up with the modern times but until 2021 they did great with keeping the show its original style, especially in 2013 - 2018 which everything was like how it was but it appealed to the modern generation with it being animated and being exiting instead of the old slow paced and model trains. It still worked, but they still changed it... It's just disgusting to see what the show is now...

[@LBSC70]

Reverend Wilbert Awdry once said Once the Americans get a hold of it the whole series will be vulgarised and ruined

[@rmgilyard]

Racism

[@SoundwaveDevastation]

@@rmgilyardits true

[@zachtheveryluckyengineprod3417]

Okay, first of all, that’s “Tank Engine” to you. Second of all, the current owners of Thomas And Friends (AKA: Mattel) aren’t trying to make the show “woke” they’re trying to cut as many corners as possible by making the show mushy and lifeless, just to make the idiots who write the articles shut up about Thomas And Friends being “un-inclusive” and “not having enough female representation” It’s literally nothing more than that. It’s Mattel making the show too “woke”. It is purely about being lazy, and doing the bare minimum to get the good boy brownie points from article writers. Stop trying to pin the blame of every single bad fucking thing on this planet on the people that just want to be who they want to be!

[@angelpirelaproductions3076]

Don't forget about the cheap merchandise

[@artuthebigengine7928]

The CGI Thomas was enough modernization

[@megsley]

the animation is awful - way way too much movement and its really cheesy. if you wanna give your kid adhd then sure let them watch this, but I'd suggest sticking with the original!

[@TobyOliverHenryFan]

Children really don't like the new Thomas. They say "That's Not Thomas!" - and if children say it's not Thomas, than it really is not Thomas no more. I remember the classic, everybody loved it! A specially here in Britain. After all, Thomas started off here. Every Englishman knows Thomas and his STEAM engine friends! But then it wanted to expand to America, and then, that's where the runaway of era started. The train wreck of movie "Thomas And The Magic Railroad" went for a more "Magical" and American feel. Thomas is not American, even the Americans agreed back then. Then HiT bought Thomas, and that was a nightmare. But then Mattel bought Thomas. Everything looked great! They brought an old writer who made some of the best Thomas episodes from a long time! But then...Mattel grew bold. They changed the toys and nobody liked them! They thought it was the show's fault, and made drastic changes. Those changes, unsurprisingly, failed, miserably! Everybody hated this new "Woke" Thomas! What did Mattel do? Make it even MORE woke! Now even us fans have given up on Mattel. As the Rev. Wilbert Awdry said - "Give it to the Americans, and they'll ruin it". Oh How Right He Was! No hard feelings to the Americans, but this happens with all their shows. For instance SpongeBob.

[@lowfurts]

"Disgraceful! Disgusting and Despicable!" -The Big Engines

[@splat-trainproductions]

Woke has nothing to do with this, in fact, putting diversity in Thomas is not the problem, Thomas ALWAYS had diversity(British, American, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, Cuban, Swiss, Steam, Diesel, Electric, etc.) and female characters(Annie, Clarabel, Daisy, Rosie, Mavis, Molly, Lady, Ashima, Millie, Judy, Marion, Agnes, Lucy, Ruth Jemima, Beatrice, Mrs. Lady Hatt, Dowager Hatt, etc.). It's the fact that Mattel, the toy company, is making the show both unrealistic and only light-hearted in tone by turning it into Paw Patrol, and is using the "We are putting diversity in it" argument as an excuse to get those brownie points while not using said diversity in a meaningful way just to make whatever crappy changes they want to sell low-quality toys. Not only that, they downright insulted the Autism community by not wanting Thomas to be associated with us. So much for diversity, AM I RIGHT?!

[@charliesand573]

Louder for the people in the back.

[@eslm-studios2996]

Just goes to show that the powers at play won’t acknowledge diversity unless they have a black character in a show or make changes like race swapping. It’s both amusing and disturbing at the same time.

[@Derek_McDurfee]

You’ve hit the nail right on the head!

[@Derek_McDurfee]

You’ve hit the nail right on the head!

[@elizabethmiles9238]

@splat-trainproductions What the Heck are you Talking About

[@Shiny_Firey]

“The Americans will get hold of the show and will ruin it” Wilbert predicted his franchises fate

[@real.roninthomasvids]

*Canadians

[@ThomasTheorist]

People who have no idea what their talking about, argue for 5 minutes, just like the real world!

[@thekaibacorpexpress4043]

If I had a choice between regular Thomas show and the "reboot", I'll go with the regular each and every time.

[@Torentino_Ian_no_channel_2006]

Me too

[@danialhamilton7666]

For me it began dying with the education segments and Miller became terminal with bwba aeg is just the body decaying now which is really a shame because now the eightith anniversary may as well not happen let alone the centenary Brennan made the perfect choice to go when he did

[@woz7379]

So the iconic voice of Ringo Starr from the revolutionary band the Beatles is consigned to the dustbin. We live in a crazy world.🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@TheAdventuresOfJimiJaden]

He left the show back in 1990 to help his newest band at the time, Ringo Starr’s All Starr Band, take off.

[@Slumbert]

Damn, everything woke turns into sh...

[@cec_oregon]

...it

[@harryeasterbrook4593]

I’m on the autistic spectrum, but even I must admit this is not the Thomas I grew up with. Is it too late to turn things around?

[@TidHarbourWorks]

Yes, yes it is

[@TheAdventuresOfJimiJaden]

I’m also on the spectrum, I would say it’s too late, but if someone else got the rights to Thomas like Hasbro, I think we’ll be fine. Until then, we’re kinda screwed

[@thesudriana016]

0:53 Yeah they too are freaked out by this. We all wanted vibrant colors as Thomas was, but NOT this overly bright with flashy animation that hurts our eyes! I 100% agree with Britt Allcroft, the '2D Reboot that shall remain nameless' is NOT our true Thomas and should never be reimagined (She along with Wilbert Awdry and David Mitton are the true Thomas legends. Others did their best, but nothing like the Classics as they don't know the characters' ways and visions). It really shows how a corporate meddling company like Mattel can ruin a childhood classic! And I too was angered when I heard they were not gonna use the term 'Fat Controller' anymore (but he knows they would never do it to his face, and it's British-slang for good laughs hence why the UK and US each have different narrators and cast members to make it simple but not disrespect the values of the original because they are very passionate and pour their heart and souls into making the best they could do).

[@vanessasandoval96]

Mattel says it’ll end All Engines Go in 2025 but that means their 80 anniversary so I sure hope something will happen like saving their 80 anniversary

[@EricTron]

It has gone woke because I saw a Thomas the pride engine in a target one day. It’s a shame that the woke is infecting my first childhood interest

[@TheOfficialArtOfAsh]

What Thomas so successful, was it's ability to not talk down to children. The stories were written with intelligence. It didn't choose the gimmick "what kids like" basis for stories. The stories, while very light-hearted were also very down to earth. Thomas was bery down to earth. It was a realisitic world. Kids loved Thomas because it was about trains doing things that trains do in real life. It was a real world, with real life consequences. Sodor seemed like a real place you could go and visit. The new series is simply not trying to be Thomas. It's trying to be every kids cartoon you'd see on Nick Jr. Flashy, fast paced, a rock song as an intro, and just plain down cartoonish. Ya know what this reminds me of ? Paw Patrol. But Paw Patrol worked because it was being it's own thing. The trains are also not being trains. The fact that they could jump off the tracks or turn 360° and stretch around or don't seem to need any sort of energy source to keep them fueled sort of destroys any reason to even call these "trains". So I ask "What is the point of making a train show, when the trains aren't being trains ?"

[@martespennanti3229]

I'm very right-wing and have no love for "wokeness," however defined, but I think the word is not helpful here. Woke politics and "diversity" (however needless and nonsensical) are not what killed Thomas the Tank Engine. Abandoning the series' main focus, namely, trains and railways, is what killed Thomas. After HiT Entertainment bought the show it became less realistic, with nonsensical storylines having nothing to do with real life railway operations, but essentially the series was still about trains. The bad writing was improved dramatically during the five seasons when Andrew Brenner was head writer, but after the first reboot, "Big World! Big Adventures!" was released the showrunners once again threw realism to the wind, and AEG cemented what was already in progress. The diversity is just an outgrowth of this cumulative abandonment of railway realism. I can think of nothing which better sums up this fundamental betrayal of what made Thomas great than a scene from the movie pilot of "Big World! Big Adventures!" Ace the race-car asks Thomas what is holding him back from traveling around the world, and Thomas the Tank Engine responds, "These rails!" Gone is the little blue tank engine who once told Terrence the Tractor, "I don't want to go anywhere! I like my rails thank you!" The original books and show were about realistic steam engines who just so happened to be kids characters. Big World Big Adventures and especially AEG are about kids characters who just so happen to be steam engines.

[@ToaTakanuva7]

the Rev W Awdry would furious at what his creation has become

[@LBKidsGaming]

But, the show did keep up with times while using its original writing style, it appealed to modern audiences with CGI, thrilling movie's, new characters to meet, and many other things. The show was still good but they turned it into a 2d CGI in 2021 and turned everyone into American Children, removing main characters to replace them with new ones, turning them into literal toys, its disgusting...

[@jeremiahsisaias8677]

I can already vision Wilbert having a seizure in his grave... Same with others like Michael Angelis, Peter Fonda, George Carlin etc who are dead.

[@JTrailroadinboi12]

Did everybody just forget about the CGI series. That modernized the model version but kept a similar feel to the classic series.

[@Mike-77-YT]

Yeah, but bad writing made us forget it for a bit.

[@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967]

@@Mike-77-YT Brenner era has good writing compared to the Miller era.

[@Mike-77-YT]

@@DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 yeah, those are good executions of the CGI formula. But still, the notoriety is still present.

[@davidking9729]

We need to save Thomas and friends

[@thomasshrekfan1860]

We need to sue Mattel

[@azb9891]

​@@thomasshrekfan1860 YES

[@vanessasandoval96]

What if Disney saves Thomas and Friends to own after Mattel says it’s going to end All Engines Go in 2025 and I think it will save the 80 anniversary

[@thebulldozer9198]

Wokeness kills everything. I grew up on the original Thomas the tank engine with Ringo Starr narrating the story's and that was the peak of how brilliant it once was. The show was great because it didn't treat kids like morons. The story's were fun, the characters were interesting and any issues they faced were usually problems that an actual train might have and then there was a lesson at the end, all wrapped up in around five minutes. Now it's just a soulless corporate cheap cash grab that's just a lazy copy of any other kids show but with the Thomas name slapped on it. Another thing is, in the short horrible clip that was shown, why the hell is Thomas doing a upside down loop like Sonic the hedgehog? Do they even care that he's a train? I'll just keep my fond memories of the original show.

[@elizabethmiles9238]

@thebulldozer9198 You Forgot George Carlin

[@thebulldozer9198]

I grew up in the UK with Ringo Starr and then Michael Angeles narrating the story's. George Carlin was for America.

[@GresleyStanierProductions35]

It’s just like Awdry said. Once the Americans get hold of it, the whole series would get vulgarized and ruined, and it was. 😡

[@TobyOliverHenryFan]

Mhm, what a wise man he was!

[@GreenDayFan2003LLC.]

if i had the rights to thomas and friends i'd cancel all engines go and revive the 1984 series on hulu in the US and disney+ everywhere else

[@TheAdventuresOfJimiJaden]

Me too

[@jarry3528]

Most people probably aren't aware that it's still being produced, which says it all in itself.

[@PeanutsAndSanrioFan]

2:56 Wow this guy really just insulted old fans

[@karyncasey9363]

My son LOVED Thomas when he was little back in the mid 90's. Too bad "wokeness" got their hands on it, just like Disney. Go woke, go broke. Wouldn't let my kids watch the garbage they have for kids today.😒

[@run2cat4run]

Being woke made no one broke yet

[@arcticwarriors7014]

Ikr and fuck that man who said that Thomas all Engines go is not woke it is woke he is not a Thomas fan

[@samchadwick8350]

Here Here. Growing up in the 2000s, I feel very blessed to have been raised on the REAL island of Sodor. Today, cheap CGI, Colourful worlds with no real-life danger warning, writing that treats kids with no intelligence, cowardice towards spending money. The only thing kids shows care about is toys sales.

[@samchadwick8350]

At least back when England was FAMOUS for producing the best kids shows between the 60s-90s, an ENTIRE family could enjoy the show, instead of the parents getting nothing but BOREDOM.

[@Natendo_Switch]

Yeah, this is not a "Wokeness" problem and if you think it is then you're an idiot.

[@ChrisSuperDude]

Just cause something is bad, doesn’t mean it’s automatically “woke”. Granted when 99.9% of woke media is awful I can see why we’re going down that path and the two are becoming synonymous, but AEG is not woke in the slightest. Can we please leave Thomas of all things entirely apolitical?

[@coconutmall333]

I am surrounded by “woke” idiots these days. Thomas was my childhood of all ages. and I can’t express of regretting to see the American Audience had to *GOSH!* bringing up the politics or critics-on-media to make the show a bad reputation. I wish Mattel gone bankruptcy and Thomas will be in public domain.😒💧

[@TheAdventuresOfJimiJaden]

I think they’re trying to give the new one a bad reputation while the old one is being praised.

[@nmuniz2]

Twitter is gonna have a field day with this

[@dmos1631]

Has *wokeness* tanked ttte? No. Mattel, those fucking bastards, have tanked ttte. It was, for all intense and purpose, a series meant to "grow up with the reader". That was a century ago. And the TVS, which I am distinctly seperating from CGI, *and* this, did the same thing. It grew up with the viewer as technique got better. Then CGI started pandering to only a young audience. Younger than what was originally intended for Thomas. And now Mattel, *hallowed be it's fucking name*, has taken that to the extreme

[@elizabethmiles9238]

@dmos1631 Well Have you Watched The Brenner Era (Season 17 - Season 21) CGI Thomas Seasons, I Know The Original Series (Season 1 - Season 7) Will Always Be the Best Seasons of The Old Thomas the Tank Engine Show. Even Though Season 6 is the Worst Season of The Original Series

[@elizabethmiles9238]

The Brenner Era (Season 17 - Season 21) Seasons is the Only Really Good CGI Thomas Seasons

[@eaglenix]

I volunteer at a model railway group, we run so many model trains, whether it be diesel or steam, children love seeing the models go round our layout and when we start running the 'Thomas & friends' models they adore it. They never want to leave and they keep coming back to our little group to see them again. My point is that, they would never get bored with the model and quit honestly I would introduce my children, nieces and nephews to the original series, not this abomination that we now call 'Thomas & Friends' Clare is absolutely right. Also what a load of rubbishes 'Thomas & Friends' is aimed at a young audience, why must the show compete with TikTok and KZbin? We need to go back to the old fashion ways, the good old days and show this generation of children magic like it was then.

[@charliesand573]

Can I just say how proud I am of this fandom? You guys have shown a civility that puts the Star Wars fandom to shame.

[@mlsabc1236]

"Thomas And Friends" must go on, Mattel!

[@steamrailr761fan6]

Absolutely it has! 😡 Total wokeness.

[@charliesand573]

America ruined it. "Wokeness" is not a real thing outside Twitter.

[@thomaswinfrey-xm9dd]

1:21, THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE MADE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OF ALL TIME, AND SHE SAYS IS, “ tHeReS NoThInG wRoNg WiTh It. Fine WiTh Me😐😐😐👌”, AND NOT ONLY DOES MATTLE THEMSELVES THINK THAT THEY RUINED IT, BUT FANDOM AS WELL!! I rest my case, thank you for your time.

[@plaidzebra5526]

You can't say "All Engines Go" Is woke for bringing in new female characters because even the model series had female characters like Emily, Rosie, and of course Mavis and Daisy who were created by the original creator. The "Woke" argument is flate, but the show can still be bad without being woke. Maybe this lady has some confusion between the 2

[@vanessasandoval96]

Well ok the bright side Mattel says it’ll end All Engines Go in 2025 but that’s it’s their 80 anniversary so I sure hope something will save their 80 anniversary like how about Disney to own

[@haileyhoward-fp2zl]

They should’ve stuck with CGI. CGI was good and so was the model series. The reboot is kinda weird. For example the trains are bouncing .

[@ThomasSirHandel]

Yeah, the Brenner era of Seasons 17 to 21 was a fine modern version of the show. BWBA and AEG were never needed, but what was needed was better marketing.

[@DangerAngelous]

For the record, we don't hate the reboot because it's "woke", if anything the integration of different characters and backgrounds was a gradual but welcome addition as the series went on before the reboot came along. We hate it because it's a wumpy jumpy, generic-looking and infantilising cartoon that is visually and functionally as trains on a railway nothing like the previous CGI, or model series and especially nothing like the orignal Railway Series books

[@missmanxee]

I never liked the new version of Thomas since it was first announced and I still hate it to this day Thomas has been my favorite tv show and a huge part of my childhood and I still love and prefer watching the original model series told by the legendary narrator’s Sir Ringo Starr and the late Michel Angelis and the CGI series but when Mattel started messing with the show and removed two of the original characters Edward and Henry from the series it just made it worse and now look what we got a soulless reboot and a insult to the memory of its creator the Rev W Awdry who wrote the stories to entertain his son who was ill and teach us about the importance of the preservation steam trains and heritage so as a true Thomas fan i say bring back the original series.

[@elizabethmiles9238]

I Disagree with Lewis Oakley 100 Percent

[@coolfinel]

I'm pretty sure the fact that it was bought by a toy company is what ruined it, not "wokeness".

[@stfuyoutube423]

they did do great with barbie's movie, so mattel still has hope

[@SE_2607]

I mean can you blame Britt for not liking AEG? I mean she did start the original television series because she loved the books that were made by Rev W Awdry, and seeing something that was practically her creation being so butchered by America I can definetely see why she would annoyed by it. Diversity is not what ruined Thomas (Thomas on it's own already had a diverse casts of characters by having a bit of everything on each character, wether it was different nationality, gender, engine type, etc) what ruined Thomas was Mattel's corporate greed, doing everything to practically ruin the shows reputation, and having the audacity to shift the blame on the fans and not their own actions. It's generally sad to see such a beloved character like Thomas being ruined by a corporates greedy actions and not even being aware of it. I mean FFS Mattel literally has one of the iconic characters of all time on their hands and treat it like if it was just another toy train in their hands when he's a lot more than that.

[@elizabethmiles9238]

@SE_2607 I Know Everything Today is Not as Awesome as the Good Old Days A.K.A. My Childhood (Early 2000's and the 90's)

[@Bob_Box]

The original show was better. Stayed true to the original. Respected the source. The people who worked on it loved what they made and worked on it with passion.

[@jonathangreenlees4772]

Anything before BWBA/AEG: Realistic engines behaving realistically and facing/solving realistic problems. BWBA/AEG: Literally Chuggington.

[@TobyOliverHenryFan]

Well.....HiT was more of the same. But still better than BWBA and AEG.

[@TheRealMakotoYuki]

Personally I liked the model series better but as time went on they got rid of big huge names like Henry and Edward those 2 who were there for a long time to bring this piece of garbage

[@GLee-oe3op]

Lazy, ignorant, corporate. That’s what the reboot is

[@thomaswinfrey-xm9dd]

Facts, straight facts

[@NoobThatBuilds]

Man just bring back the original thomas idc if its cgi or something just not the reboot 😢

[@xl5fan]

God what they are saying is quite blatant and stereotypical. What I see from this argument is them saying how silly for someone to get upset over a tv show as times change so everything has to “change”. You look at other contemporary shows of what they’re up with and that’s understandable as to why this happens and thus saying this. That is absolute surface level of understanding right there as basing on a generation stand point, but what they don’t know is that the show is fact DYING, this new show just doesn’t cut it and doesn’t do the franchise any justice nor does it have favours in the long term. The main reason why kids were originally drawn to the show was simply from Thomas being a train, doing things what a train would do and that was the CORE appeal of the show and why it was SO popular in the first place. Without that it’s losing the attention from its fans. It’s not from the fact it’s got to be fast paced as its competitors but simply being just what the show originally was that made the show unique, special and stand out against the competition.

[@johnthechoochooaddict796]

All Engines Go doesn’t feel like Thomas to be honest and just feels like a kids show with Thomas added in. I feel it would be better to just let the franchise Rest In Peace. It suffered from one of the worst cases of the Teen Titans Go syndrome and All Engines Go would just destroy the franchise altogether.

[@elizabethmiles9238]

The Only True Modern Thomas the Tank Engine is The Marc Forster Thomas Movie Coming Out Maybe Later This Year 2024 and CGI Thomas Seasons (Brenner Era Only Season 17 - Season 21). The Sharon Miller Era (Season 13 - Season 16) were Horrible But the Big World Big Adventures Era was Okay. The Brenner Era (Season 17 - Season 21), The Hit Era (Season 8 - Season 11), and The Original Series (Season 1 - Season 7) will Always be the Best Versions of The Old Thomas the Tank Engine Show. Season 12 was Also Okay

[@elizabethmiles9238]

Clare Muldoon 👍🤞 Lewis Oakley 👎🖕

[@Rocketman1583]

ISTG if I was the spirit of The late Reverend Wilbert Awdry I would haunt mattel..... this is an insult to the railway series

[@nickfire4005]

They dont understand that Britt’s passion project tragic failroad was the spark that ignited the franchise to slowly burn over the next 20 years like yeah Mattel did try at the start and hit entertainment did care around like the late 2000s for great discovery and hero of the rails but yeah after 2018 the franchise was at a point of no return I loved this franchise but I will never forgive Mattel on how they disrespected such a sacred show with over 8 decades of lore

[@maxtopia5733]

I like the CGI of Thomas and Friends

[@joshuahughes5647]

Please someone bring in Christopher Awdry

[@railenthusiastabhishek1527]

I think that the American makers should watch the episodes of South Korean equivalent of Thomas & Friends, which is the Titipo. Even though Titipo is centred more on modern diesel, electric & high speed trains, the fact is that Titipo uses CGI, similar to Thomas & Friends series prior to All Engines Go. Mattel should learn from ICONIX, the maker of Titipo.

[@Tombola1993]

I think we can all agree that if Thomas ain’t broke, don’t bloody fix him. Simple as.

[@bentheidioticnerd8993]

I think the term, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", get ignored a lot.

[@tomogotchi9140]

Die-Hard Thomas fan here, I did see AEG, it's not "Woke" to me, the problem with AEG is that it's badly written, looks awful, completely dismisses what Thomas is about as a whole and how it's devolved from being just another generic children's show that even the children watching it are saying it's bad. To me, The Barbie Movie is woke because it's trying to enforce a certain narrative that isn't healthy and passing it off as necessary change, and Thomas is not doing that at all. Also to point this out, Nia was already a character before the reboot and was made in collaboration with people in Africa to ensure they were taking the right approach, so her inclusion is not exclusive to the reboot.

[@TheAdventuresOfJimiJaden]

As a writer, I can agree with you. A lot of shows nowadays are trying to be all hip and cool which makes those shows very less unique. Thomas was a show and a book series that took place on a British railway between the 20’s and the 60’s. These shows will write however they want because they think the general public will love anything. Nia was already present in the BWBA era, so who am I to judge. I would say to them to at least keep some of the new characters and bring some old ones like BoCo and Stepney, and even Mavis and Daisy so we have an even bigger cast. And the new show could be based off the Railway Series style of things, the art, the writing, etc.

[@joshuaW5621]

Keep the word woke away from Thomas.

[@theamazinggamer111]

You know it's bad when the NEWS BROADCASTS rememis on the good times of the show... Mattel, even the PRESS doesn't agree with you...

[@calimom3lestudios931]

Reverend Awdry and Yakko Warner knew. They tried to tell us, but we didn't listen. Mattel didn't listen........ What'll we do now.

[@eslm-studios2996]

Speaking as someone who grew up with Thomas as well as stuck around for up until the reboot, I can say that Thomas ‘lost the magic’ as far back as when HIT Entertainment bought the rights and things only got worse when they made the transition to CGI. Ironically, it started to get better in the later CGI series until Mattel released Big World Big Adventures. But to say ‘wokeness’ has tanked it just makes this video clickbait. ‘Wokeness’ has nothing to do with it. What made Thomas stand out from the rest was that it never talked down to the audience. If you were to watch the series from Season 1-5, you would see that. And Allcroft didn’t create Thomas. Awdry and his son did. She only adapted the books into the tv series. There’s a difference.

[@elizabethmiles9238]

I Agree with Clare Muldoon 100 Percent

[@droid9661]

I agree with Clare. There so many kids shows that have just gone woke. As a 19 year old blessed with watching Thomas The Tank Engine through out the years. The show had changed for better and sometimes the worst. Before this reboot Season 17-21 of the show was taken in a beautiful way teaching kids the greatest lesson in the episodes and movies. What comes to my mind in a snap is be who u are, team work and friendship. The writer Andrew brenner knew how to not shove morals down kids throats… everything the books and the classic series had. As an adult now I’ve seen how savage kids have become and seeing how young kids do not understand morals or lessons like the my I was brought up can stem from a lot of things but i also believe the things they watch. The new reboot which is just k is woke… but in the heart of Thomas The Tank Engine, Thomas & his friends are all real engines at heart. Something that is real and made with so much love is being ripped away. TBH Mattel needs to give the Thomas brand to some who cares. When someone cares about something they do something good with it. Hopefully Mattel can make an irl movie for Thomas to start a reboot to make a classic series based on the books

[@jerome8465]

The fact this made the news says a lot. Thomas the tank engine the classic series has a huge fan bass that is kept alive in memory, youtube vids, custom themes people continously make. So many people are upset by this. Heck even a lot of the kids its aimed for turn their heads. Thats saying something. To hear grown adults enjoy the classic series warms my heart. There was soul, creativity, and wholesome passion put in the classic that proves to still hold up strong today.

[@GearsNkupProductions]

Awdry would be looking down on us being absolutely miserable

[@davidaviles1754]

That's Wilbert Awdry he died years ago, Britt allcroft created the TV show not the Books, Wilbert is, but seeing right now, All Americans like us were to blame But hearing that man saying "Thomas is not Woke" is what he knows it's not

[@thegamingrailfan7905]

Here's my take on this drama. I admit AEG isn't perfect but it's imo a good show for what it is and people who keep hating on it should really get over it and go touch grass, i like it and i will admit it doesn't have the same impact or charm the classic series has but it doesn't matter to me, As much as I like classic Thomas I like AEG as well for different reasons. at the end of the day it's still Thomas and Mattel is doing whatever it takes to keep the legacy of Thomas alive. I think we should cut them some slack for reasons like blindly complaining about who knows what I understand fans don't like it but they don't have to keep pointing it out thinking they are the only ones who are right when they aren't, i just can't deal with these hardcore fans but if you like AEG? that's fine, if you like the classic series?, that's fine, if you like both like i and many others do? that's fine.Not to mention the fact that Britt allcroft herself doesn't like AEG is understandable but try to remember she was the one responsible for TATMR, it wasn't the best for a Thomas the tank engine movie but it was ok (it could've been better imo but that's just me,) the movie didn't perform well at the box office and critics said thomas was "Americanized" even the uk fans didn't know what shining time station was and neither did I (an American 2000's kid from New Jersey). the reporters in this are claiming "wokeness" ruined thomas when it was corporate greed which is typical for companies even Nickelodeon, Hasbro (Mattel's rival) Disney, and others. In America, corporations will make decisions on their own whenever they want and unfortunately there is nothing the customers can do but live with it. I hope you will understand where I'm going with this, and I'll be here if you wanna talk some more, but you have to be civil be a big boy about it and NOT complain like a child.

[@elizabethmiles9238]

The Original Series (Season 1 - Season 7) Will Always Be the Best Seasons of The Old Thomas the Tank Engine Show. Even Though Season 6 is the Worst Season of The Original Series

[@kenzothetankengine]

All engines go A horrible reboot like I would never watch it ever and I'm 13 years old I watched the fan series and I watched it over and over again the old show And it's a shame they just mess it up

[@charliesand573]

I was a kid in the 90s, I went through the same thing when Magic Railroad botched everything up. In time you'll learn to look past this awful reboot, and simply love the parts of TTTE that you like.

[@flippydafox3313]

I died after hearing the intro to all engines go

[@studioa9728]

This guy didn’t seem to understand. It’s not about the diversity. Thomas & Friends has been continuously adding more cultural and female characters over the coming years of the model series, there’s no problems with that at all if they’re written correctly. The problem is changing Thomas as a whole and the world around him. What had me so sucked into Thomas as a kid and even now as an adult is how I could see myself in any of these characters and not be talked down to as if I was stupid. Now the main cast are almost all kids with morals that are blatantly said and scenarios that are completely unrealistic. It’s hard for anyone to see themselves in these characters and enjoy the show if their current target audience is toddlers unlike the original demographic where it was meant for everyone.

[@Reddy4Leisure2003]

Lewis is definitely being paid by Mattel to say all of that bull#### 😂

[@KDapple]

Wokeness has nothing to do with this what 😭

[@TobyOliverHenryFan]

Well it kinda does. But yeah, it also doesn't. I bet classic Thomas could introduce better female and autistic characters than Mattel ever could.

[@pakschannel4862]

News people! Have you all not watched the f***ing CGI series of Thomas and Friends!!? There is surely diversity and good writing in it. You’re not Gonna know about Thomas if you literally watch more episodes of the show. 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@sebastianbelleza8694]

At this point they should get rid of AEG because it’s NOT THE REAL THOMAS AND FREINDS

[@ethanosaurusrex]

Children all over the world loved Thomas the Tank Engine from the day I was born to like 5 or 8 years ago and then when downhill and corporate got greedier. When it comes to "woke" I don't have comments..

[@murkrow2316]

Doesn’t matter which of many different Thomas versions there are my Autistic children love them All!!! I personally love the Ringo narrated ones…

[@andydoms2001]

All Engines Go is doing absolutely nothing but hurt Mattel both critically and financially, and it’s no wonder why, who would like it?!? Cancel All Engines Go!!!!

[@insertusername364]

I wouldn't call Thomas woke, as far as i know actually, the franchise itself has never ran into any real issues with that kind of stuff. Everything that is problematic is only due to it not aging well because the franchise itself is almost 80 years old, things like that'll happen. Thomas has also never really had problems with female representation. When people say the show doesn't have enough female characters they're more than likely referring to the rare occurrence when a female character actually would get an episode, the problem isn't that there's none at all. The show itself is pretty dark as a universe, but the episodes themselves most of the time are suitable for children. People just have different reactions to it, the content itself has aged well for the most part. The reboot itself is fine on it's own, it's nothing special at all from what I've seen, i dropped off like 5 episodes in as a fan of the original TV series and i think that's fair for this kind of series aimed a kids, nothing is going to change in 5 episodes right? The only bad thing about it is that it's unoriginal, which isn't a crime just a disappointment (but then again it's a preschool show). Thomas has a lot of potential outside of just being a strictly kids property and the later railway series books wonderfully display that concept. Thomas has a model train line, wouldn't it be neat if they made replicas of Awdry's models for collectors? Thomas has pretty much fallen off the face of the Earth, the franchise is an afterthought it everyone's mind who isn't a fan which is why they rebooted in the first place along with overall doing a pretty crappy job of taking care of the show period. It's one of the worst examples I've seen in terms of handling a beloved property. If you ever thought Disney was doing a horrendous job with it's properties take a dive into the Thomas world and see how bad things actually could be. They're just fudging up the writing and characters, they're not doing that on top of not advertising the show properly while the people writing it are actually trying to make it interesting, then rebooting it because yes, the problem is the show is bad. Not because you're not promoting so your target audience can actually watch the show. You know, the reason you're making it in the first place? So people can... Well, watch it?

[@DKQuagmire]

First time hearing the "All engines go" theme song, and it just made my ears bleed. Sweet mother of all things holy! WTF was that!! There was nothing wrong with the original, and while it took several years to get used to it, I actually liked the "they're 2 they're 4 they're 6 they're 8" song (Engine Roll call song).

[@thetechnocrat4979]

Usually, I am all for bashing progressives and so called ' Social Justice Warriors ' but this was so poorly researched! First of all, the actual creator of Thomas is the late Reverend Wilbert Awdry who wrote the Railway Series books. Britt Allcroft created the TV show and ran it wonderfully for the first 5 seasons. Truthfully, Thomas had already started a gradual downfall ever since ' Thomas and the Magic Railroad ' movie as it completely abandoned the realism and mature tones of the books and the TV show and slid into the realm of ' baby food '. It was, unfortunately, Britt Allcroft's greatest misstep. From then on, Thomas was never the same. It did become somewhat good in between seasons 17 to 21 (when Thomas was owned by Mattel for the first time and Andrew Brenner was the head writer for it) but it just fell off a cliff after that. Wokeness is a given nowadays but that is not entirely the reason why Thomas is floundering now. The show has completely abandoned its realism and slower pace, and has become another crappy brainless baby show which is like any other baby show. There is no charm left in it. The books had a very realistic setting (after the initial couple of books) and were inspired by real events that had happened on Britain's railways. Sodor felt like a real place in a universe very much like ours. The only differences were that the UK had an extra island called Sodor and that the vehicles were alive. Imagine going from something as grand as that to All Engines Go! Thats why everyone is angry at it.

[@cjones3710]

Oh no what a wonderful program full of morals and family values destroyed for that junk. That's not Thomas nor natural.

[@Shanesgottobeknown]

I do think the old one is better!!

[@DJtrainzzz]

Regardless of how you feel about the woke debate it’s kinda nuts how Alcroft is mad given she’s the one who did the original “Thomas reimagining” with tatmr

[@MattsAttack9]

This started a few years ago but this change is awful. Now it's just a show that's going to be lost in the mix with others using the same animation style. There's updating and then there's not adapting the spirit and other things to a modernised version.

[@dadocta5168]

0:36 That was the best disc scratch moment I've ever heard.