Why Clone Starfighter Pilots Lived a Life of Perpetual Fear and Despair

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[@EnduringFoliage]

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[@adamofblastworks1517]

I feel like you could have been much less redundant in this video.

[@inkedseahear]

LAAT Gunships: Flying fine LAAT Gunships when the main character's Gunship flying next to them: *explodes*

[@shadowling77777]

Lmfao

[@ryanmann1416]

Good thing those bugs can’t aim

[@greenlightning2539]

@@ryanmann1416 GAHHHHH!!!!

[@rafaeldiaz2147]

Plot Armor

[@kp-legacy-5477]

Random soldier in any of the vehicles “These guys can’t shoot for shit” Immediately sees friendlies or them self die

[@Hinokassaudifan1]

I hate to be a pilot or a navy officer. The thought of endlessly drifting in space with nothing to hold on to terrifies me to my core.

[@geetslys]

Now you got me scared

[@Helm113]

This while galaxy is drifting through space

[@iamjoeysteel]

I suppose being in a space borne navy is like being in a submarine of sorts. Except the "ocean," is infinite.

[@Fruitgum-xc7co]

Just imagine being thrown out of the space shuttle in Among Us in real life,

[@bogustoast22none25]

Many Imperial pilots had different methods to end their lives if that happened, because the empire would leave them behind if they could chase the rebels.

[@kyleplatter8954]

Jedi general: this is a suicide mission Clone pilots: first time?

[@jacencade4019]

I'm using that

[@michaelyoung7261]

On the physics that were mentioned: “flying faster than a certain speed would kill an organic pilot” it’s not the speed that kills, it is the acceleration that kills. A steady acceleration can get you to whatever speed you want. Any acceleration causes a force to be experienced. A constant velocity, aka speed, is non lethal to all organics. Bursts of acceleration cause an impulse force, busts of high acceleration cause a high impulse force and that impulse force is what shreds the internals of organic pilots. Yes the star fighters go “fast” in a straight line, but their turning, or maneuverability, is why droids can take out organic piloted star fighters. The organic pilots get flanked because they can’t maneuver at the same acceleration

[@dolphinjeans663]

Please explain how light-speed/ hyperspace doesn’t kill everyone on the ship. It’s going to bug me until it’s revealed.

[@TheTheschuhschuh]

@@dolphinjeans663 Science. Fiction.

[@futonschiessverdammnt4798]

@@dolphinjeans663 isn't light speed just travelling through a separate dimension?

[@CallsignMisery]

@@futonschiessverdammnt4798 Light Speed is unreachable, Hyperdrives shift you into the compressed dimension.

[@alexbibby9641]

@@dolphinjeans663 cause its space and air resistance and gravity don't apply unless planetside or a body large enough to have a gravitational pull. at least i assume this is why

[@frozarburst6350]

Geetsly: Star fighter piloting in the Clone Wars was terrifying. Usually suicide. Empire at War Mods: Haha! Ships go BURRRRRRR

[@joaop4585]

Defenders go ioooonnn

[@xxvaltielxx1789]

*MC30c Frigate:* I'm gonna end this man's whole sanity

[@bogustoast22none25]

xX Valtiel Xx maaaan, fuck those frigates.

[@pdc4930]

That's why the Republic at War mod, you need anti-fighter corvettes and Frigates. those droid fighter swarms are no joke. also they needed something like the Mc30c frigate favorite frigate ever.

[@swtheorie4511]

Well depends on which side you are fighting I can understand clone pilots shit their pants when having to dogfight with droids. Imaging having to fight against an army that doesn't retreat or hold their fire the only thing they do is kill.

[@tfox1231]

I remember when I played the Old Battlefront 2 I would steal the Separatist Ships during space battles whenever I was fighting for the Republic.

[@thatoneguy7715]

I usually stole their bomber bc i thought I dropped more bombs lol

[@imperialhenchmen8059]

@@thatoneguy7715 Yeah CIS bombers for life. They were OP

[@misosupe]

Old battlefronts. *the objective* : get a vulture droid on the Kamino platforms

[@imperialhenchmen8059]

@@misosupe you mean droideka?

[@JeanLucCaptain]

to create confusion or because it was a better ship?

[@somticlight3712]

I like how one of the pictures was space engineers, that games pretty lit

[@andrewb3760]

I still can't build a functional ship, even though I have been playing for a month

[@bearmangaming2278]

We don't talk about its medieval counterpart

[@rohiasplayz]

at what time spot was it

[@ranko8642]

wait where?

[@kylenegaard6461]

@@andrewb3760 Don't feel so bad, my first ship that worked looked like crap, and blew up in a matter of minutes.

[@hunterkiller1440]

I've always wondered why did they stopped using Droid starfighters if they are superior to organics in space dogfighting.

[@misosupe]

Actually, the empire used droid tie-fighters, also called TIE-Ds, but were not very common. They resembled a tie interceptor except with stockier wings.

[@sometffurry]

too expensive id bet

[@stuglife5514]

@@sometffurry yea that’s partially it. The other thing was the empire had a lot of anti droid sentiment and anti alien sentiment and propaganda, basically a recruited human with a few months of training is probably cheaper then a droid fighter and it helps with the empires propaganda image when you remember each tie fighter is an elite pilot and each star destroyer is created by living breathing humans. It’s the greatest projection of a species might and power, everything the empire represented. Cover as much ground (or space) as possible with loyal imperial humans

[@Frostbite_001]

@@sometffurry they weren’t more expensive they were actually much cheaper

[@Frostbite_001]

@@stuglife5514 they weren’t more expensive lol all they were was drones and if we go by military economics standard. Military drones are significantly cheaper than manned aircraft’s. And the thing with loyalty is also BS due to droids being programmed to be loyal so they can’t go against it meaning that they’ll be loyal no matter what job you gave them, the same can’t be said for organic beings so drones are much more practice, much cheaper and a hell of a lot more loyal and reliable

[@Glaswalker1001]

One thing: speed never kills you. Changes in speed do! You can go as fast as you want without noticing, but one sharp corner and your body just wants to scoot along at the speed of smush...

[@jaingskirata4276]

When you hop into the cockpit of an ARC-170 but the controls are inverted

[@Slender_Man_186]

What exactly do you mean by inverted?

[@caleb7922]

Sorta “upside-down” in a way. Or “reversed”.

[@Slender_Man_186]

@@caleb7922 WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? Ok, look, when you pull back on the stick, the nose should pull up, and if you push forward, the nose should point down. Would you consider that correct, or reversed?

[@heroicspirit474]

​@@Slender_Man_186 You are looking too far into a joke, if anything this is referencing video game controls. An inverse is defined as a "reverse of an operation" Video games often have an option to set the control option to inverted, the joke is in a starfighter having to deal with such a strange unexpected change would be detrimental, even if such a thing would likely be both impossible and absurd. It's not meant to be totally logical

[@Slender_Man_186]

@@heroicspirit474 that still begs the question, what are we considering “reversed” when it comes to flight controls. If the controls are “reversed” in the traditional sense, that’s how it should handle, and would be far from detrimental. I know what the joke is supposed to be, I’ve played my fair share of video games, but the joke doesn’t work well when referring to anything that flies.

[@istudios7637]

starfighters are underappreciated. I hope we get to see more of them in the bad batch

[@geetslys]

Hmm, how are they underappreciated?

[@bluerobin2982]

Bruh I think you mean capital ships

[@istudios7637]

@@geetslys I just think it would be cool to see more of them. Like an arc in the bad batch where they focus on them exclusively

[@jeshuabright3733]

Well, from my limited knowledge, the Republic always struggled with starfighter tactics in the Clone Wars. in Legends, the Rebel Alliance, the New Republic, and the Galactic Alliance used a mix of Republic and Separatist tactics to succeed in conflicts like the Second Galactic Civil War and the earlier Yuzhaan Vong War.

[@EnduringFoliage]

R.I.P David Prowse

[@geetslys]

Rest in peace. His performance as Vader was era defining.

[@deadmen5672]

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[@chengzhou8711]

"Those pilots saved all of our lives repeatedly, and often. The battles that got fought out there were colossal in scale, and with a thin line of window between you and the vacuum of space? I wouldn't dive into a furball. If I were to improve upon the republic's designs, I would focus on ways to use technology to specialize the ships further and use more electronic warfare, automation, as well as making more fighter and bomber variants of that ARC-170, which probably was our most versatile craft available." -CS/CT-8711-12 "Cheng", former Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion

[@jhonathangonzalez7468]

Where this came from?

[@alexbibby9641]

personally i would base all fighter designs on existing ones but adapted for space combat, i would also give them AAM missiles, ecm jammers and if possible localised emp wave generators to short out the droid fighters as a form of countermeasure. i would also invest heavily in anti air defences in the form of missile turrets and phalanx style turrets as well.

[@chengzhou8711]

@@alexbibby9641 I think that would be a highly specialized kind of formation right there

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@jhonathangonzalez7468 Just some good fan stuff.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Can agree, Cheng, they should have at least used more single-seat and lighter-armed ARC-170s instead. Such an idea did become the basis for the X-Wing, after all.

[@samueldodge8077]

Clone commanders: y'all ready to blast some clinkers? Ground fighter clones:😃 Clone pilots:😥

[@rivus3358]

I didnt realize the Y wings the rebels used were just old stripped down republic Y wings, that's a really great detail

[@collinaden2512]

It honestly makes sense why Anakin and the 501st did well in a number of battles. He knew his disadvantages so he got really unconventional Anakin - “ram them” Rex- “ Ah shi here we go again”

[@danielboatright8887]

Its not speed, its acceleration. Droid craft could turn or change speed faster.

[@MalfosRanger]

Furthermore, there is often the implicit assumption that unmanned star fighters are robust enough to withstand the Gs that say an air to air missile can. A fighter/starfighter is much more structurally complex than a missile and has some components that are more fragile than others. Remember, 20Gs is 20 times the stress on ALL parts, internal and external, simultaneously. And being able to tolerate acceleration in one axis of flight does not entail being as robust in another, much less multiple axis simultaneously.

[@SagaciousNihilist]

Inertia dampener renders "high G's" irrelevant for organic pilots, if we've established that fighters can have hyperdrives in Star wars, why wouldn't human pilots be able to fly as fast as droids? If its implied that their dampeners are strong enough for hyperspace jumps? Also, I hate filling in blanks for incompetent writers but one would assume that Clone pilots would have their reflexes and overall constitution enhanced for space combat, Star wars writers have a tendency of projecting our current world realities and limitations to the highly advanced type 3 civilization that is the star wars civilization/s, a good example is human aging in Star Wars, why the hell do humans in Star wars live as long as humans in 21st century Earth? with the collective advanced technology of thousands of species working together, you'd think humans in Star wars would be able to live forever, without having to resort to cloning or cybernetics (this is a general theme in Star wars, the writers limit themselves to our current real-world limitations even while depicting a space-faring civilization that has reached type 3 status, if a type 3 civilization decided to rely on organic pilots I'm sure that they would have figured out a workaround for evening the odds with droid crafts). Frankly, there's no justifiable reason for the Republic not to have their own droid army to compliment the clones in space and in the ground, they have a far larger economy than the CIS and we see Republic battle droids in the Mandalorian, so we know that they are not against the idea.

[@jaysonrocchio6637]

Clone Pilots 🤝 B-17 Pilots Living in dread every time they flew

[@cvisscher1]

I'm playing Republic at War while listening to this as the Republic, being spammed with Lucrehulks. Yep. This one checks out. Rip my navy

[@jayvhoncalma3458]

Are you playing in multi-player or Campaign?

[@cvisscher1]

@@jayvhoncalma3458 Single player, at least for now. This is actually my first time modding it at all and I'm still trying to find my rhythm and see which one I like best

[@xxvaltielxx1789]

@@cvisscher1 i'm no PC savvy, mind sharing your machine specks? Don't know if i could even run the new Thrawn's Revenge in a laptop, been trying to get back to EaW since my last PC died.

[@cvisscher1]

@@xxvaltielxx1789 uh, I'm not very tech savvy either and don't actually know my specs. However, my pc is an absolute piece of shit I bought on Amazon four years ago for $120 so it's not exactly top of the line. Didn't even come with a cd drive or a wifi receiver and all I've done to it was get a better graphics card (and power thing but that was just for the graphics card) and it runs Fall of the Republic without any problems. I just started learning how to mod eaw the other day and haven't tried Thrawn's Revenge yet but it's made by the same people so I'd assume they work similarly. But anyways, I guess the only thing you might need is a decent graphics card and everything else can definitely afford to suck because mine damn sure does. Not sure how helpful that is, though

[@xxvaltielxx1789]

@@cvisscher1 that's good enough, thank you

[@JuanPalomoM]

Anakin: This is where the fun begins

[@chasetoyama8184]

This fact makes the clone pilots even more awesome! They fly into battle against almost certain death and then come out on top a lot! And they can also lend support to their brothers on the ground!

[@inquisitorgarza312]

The Star Fighters pilots are fighting in perhaps the dangerous environment, and one that is absolutely unforgiving to those who make mistakes. Space combat will have an uncertain when battle commences, and a lot of bad things that can happen will happen if you are not prepared for it. The Republic Star Fighter core will always be pushed into impossible situations and they will always be stressed out more than ground troopers.

[@SagaciousNihilist]

I wonder, why the republic even wasted their clones in space combat, where they would be at a clear disadvantage to Driods, instead of using Driod starfighters themselves.

[@meaganwebb3554]

"Why clone pilots lived a life of fear and despair" Anyone who plays squadrons: I know why!

[@venomousdc_0142]

David Prowse is now forever, one with the Force, RIP

[@mcpojohn117themasterchief5]

May he Rest In Peace

[@royalkelin]

6:35 Just to clarify, what limited by the organics maning the ship is the ACCELERATION not the SPEED. You can go as fast as you want, as long as your velocity is constant, you're not putting up with any forces. The problem is when you need to make sharp turns, and break/reaccelerate quickly. That's when the "g's" can kill you

[@RhodokTribesman]

Star Wars guys seem to not understand this. Every ship video talks about this nebulous "space top speed" lmao

[@amuffin5841]

RIP David Prowse

[@AaronDarkus]

Facing the Confederacy in space is like facing entire hordes of fast zombies in ground. Eventually, you will be overwhelmed.

[@hoopsonwheels]

Kind of the same way ground combat should have been on the side of the confederacy. The confederacy was able to afford massive amounts of Star fighters using droid fighters to fight the republic

[@IronShocker77]

B1 units were way dumber than the starfighters because their computer brains were an aftertought, while the starfighters' brain was built specially for their purpose. Also, human brains don't process information that well on a 3d plan, one of the reasons why aquatic species like Mon Calamari were so good at space battles.

[@diegoprodriguez]

Tbh I was never a big fan of Ship/Space battles. It wasn’t until Rouge One and seeing the Battle of Scarif did I realize how gritty and unique each engagement actually was. Now Space Battles are cool with me

[@codychipman9783]

The thumbnail of the clone dealing with the internal struggle is deep

[@robertagu5533]

Anything in war that establishes a pattern can be turned against whatever uses it to set that pattern. If Droid fighters like to make lots of very quick sharp turns often all the more imaginative clones gotta do is sucker them into doin just that an then the pilots pick them off. All the Clone Navy needed was some kinda gunship frigate designed for HEAVY space combat and designed in anticipation of taking on alot of Droid fighter even the best ones by the squadrons and wings and simply be able to shred most of it in relatively small numbers.. Then things wouldn't be so bad. Even turned on the Droid Navy that way

[@Confused_surprise]

You have a point, but I disagree. The droids have three crucial advantages in space battles : speed, maneuverability, and number. I think the ARC 170 was the best chance for clones to survive this kind of battle, because these ships had a rear gunner for dealing with the vultures. But still, this is far from being enough for a decent chance of survival. If the clones had only gunships like you say, it would just be a bigger version of the ARC 170 with more turrets, but this would mean more clones inside this ship, and more deaths for every gunship down. Plus, I think the vultures were also used for kamikaze attacks, so if these gunships were big enough the droids could easily destroy it (not only with kamikaze attacks, but also a bunch of missiles would be enough to deal with them) For me, there is no way the republic can have the advantage if they only rely on starfighter combat. That's why they prefered attacking the CIS capital ships, because destroying an aircraft carrier is the best way to deal with the aircrafts.

[@robertagu5533]

@@Confused_surprise not necessarily, speed, bein agile don't make all the difference. An more then in a few cases in real life way outnumbering a foe has counted for absolutely nothing as the smaller force either STILL won or inflicted too much damage for the other side to be near the threat it was after. All you mentioned if anything was an indication of just how good the clone pilots in general were at least those trained from the start to be combat pilots. Or all the reasons mentioned woulda wiped the clone navy out early on probably costing the war. I was thinking, something bit more bigger then a fighter, with better fighters or much upgraded arcs supporting existing arcs, however said frigate/gunship, etc is still small enough to play the role an probably not as big as a venerator or ISD. Probably bout the size of a Correlian blockade runner or similar is usually what they use for the role. Alone needs done is heavily armor the craft, heavily armed with a range of weapons that negate numbers advantages an such. Clones were generally better period at adaptation and strategy and innovation an the like. This with a crew that knows what its doin from good training or experience will easily crush throw away cheap forces that have no such adaptability nearly every time. Like in Star wars we ACTUALLY saw this in WW2. We upgraded our craft and gave all our pilots decent training even at beginning levels and then their desire to win, survive or both take over from there. Just a bunch of my random observations

[@Confused_surprise]

@@robertagu5533 I agree, but now I realise the real problem of this project of gunship (I'll call it gunship for more simplicity) is money. I don't know how wealthy the republic was, but making a fleet of thoose well armed and well armored gunships with a professionnal crew would be expensive, and long to make. The CIS method of "launching thousands of cheap fighters at the same time" is effective. This is what happened in WW2 with bombardments : hundreds of bombers launched at the same time in order to harrass the ennemy with a force so gigantic it would be impossible to contain. Against this kind of attack, if you don't have unlimited ressources like the CIS had, it is impossible to stand forever. This is how germany lost ww2, because the allies launched dozens of bombing raids. The german were better pilots, with great and efficients interceptors, but they were no match for the gigantic army of their ennemy. From my point of view (without any intervention of Darth sidious), the Republic would have ended like germany. They might be better in 1v1, but they would be crushed under billions of "cheap soldiers". That's an interresting topic we are talking of !

[@robertagu5533]

@@Confused_surprise yeah both sides basically employed BOTH tactics now that I think of it an you mentioned that. Efficient, highly effective even lethal fighters and elite pilots with HUGE bomber assaults to finally turn tables an crush the Nazis. Was sorta the idea the GAR would probably need early to help stabilize things and as they could an gained ground an the resources with it build and design the craft as braincells FINALLY fired and they realize they need a highly efficient and effective counter craft, probably a mix of big anti fighter platforms and upgraded an better fighters to help even an in some cases turn things around. Which was like you said an im saying just to revisit it is what they did. I'd upgraded the arcs personally to have a more agile and tougher version at least as the firepower was already fairly heavy for its type. It just needed to either be hard as hell to ACTUALLY shoot down due to plenty of armor and even ecm measures in this theoretical update or a just as well armed and decently armored version that was just either just as reasonably fast but designed to be agile of needed. Even against considerably greater quality droids while the bigger gunships can hang back or press in and set auto cannons and some artillery made to counter mass attacks to suppress an basically play space machine gun on the CIS. Which since Palps intended for them to be his end game victor anyways if needed he'd ordered something like this anyways if it got bad enough.. probably facepalming at how dumb Republic leaders were for not realizing they needed to do it without his direction.

[@Pouk3D]

Either this guy or the Star Wars lore has all that Air Superiority Fighters and Snub Fighters kind of scrambled.

[@zincwing4475]

"Flying faster than a certain speed could kill pilots..." Acceleration is the problem, not speed.

[@SnepBlepVR]

So he litterally answered the question of the video title in the first 30 seconds “why where clone pilots full of fear and dispair ?” “They where often sent on suicide missions. THE END”

[@jaydenpirie3945]

This seems like an interesting topic 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@geetslys]

It is!

[@andrewwhihi224whihisagamer8]

Well r.i.p the pilots

[@darkjedi9188]

When you're in the gunship next to one with all the main characters in it. "My time has come"

[@oscarnicolson4926]

Clone pilots no to fast going to die Vulture droids “I don’t have such weaknesses

[@bluerobin2982]

I think Im having a stroke

[@Cardinal8427]

@@bluerobin2982 same here

[@alejandroelluxray5298]

Knowing the experience of clone pilots against swarms and how effective were the BTL-B and ARC-170, I can imagine than, against the swarms of imperial fighters, the clones will completely dominate the fighter battle Also speaking of fighters, you forgot to mention that the Alpha Nimbus V-Wing Interceptor was the fastest starfighter during the war, so much so, even Tri-Droids have a hard time against them, meaning that the V-Wing interceptor could, and you can say often did, win against the separatist fighters in its own game, except for the part of overwhelming numbers, which is why is good that they had the consular c70 corvettes for support against them

[@grtwhtbnr]

Zap Brannigan tactics. The kill bots have a 10,000 limit. You send wave after wave of men at them until they hit their limit. Then you clean them up

[@zexalbrony4799]

You know I've watched a lot of Clone Wars era space battles and I didn't know how bad things really were for the Republic on this front, mainly because from what you said at the end and what I have seen from the series the space battles look about even: some Republic starfighters get shot down some Separatists ones get shot down, then after a while, one side wins.

[@arcadianstudios7705]

You know, you doing these star wars videos is exciting cause I get to learn more about the topic I love so much. Also this is an interesting topic and I didnt know just how suicide it was to be a Republic pilot until now

[@yxngwood6536]

I really liked how much clearer you sounded in this video

[@toptiergaming6900]

That's probably why they designed the victory and Imperial class during the clone wars because starfighter battles where so one sided they just gave up in favor of battleships

[@Sableguy97]

Y'know something funny...when my and my brother would play battlefront galactic conquest I'd always pick the CIS or empire and every match always ended with me winning the space battles but losing land battles

[@lokeyz83]

Im surprised that as the war draged on the Republic didnt supplement there forces with conscripts and mercs. There was for sure alot of battered worlds that would increased recrutement.

[@MalfosRanger]

It does boggle my mind that there are clones guarding prisons (which aren't housing strictly POWs) and staffing the entirety of warships when the GAR is so egregiously outnumbered by the droid army. It's a wasteful misuse of limited manpower for highly trained clones and experienced Republic citizens.

[@americanspartan2420]

If clones had a K/D ratio of 20:1 than what was the K/D ratio for the average stormtrooper

[@isaackim7675]

General Pong Krell dislikes this

[@karebear4485]

So this is basically the equivalent of the Japanese Zero vs the US wildcat

[@19conqueor23]

R.i.p dave prowse

[@istudios7637]

david prowse died :'(

[@istudios7637]

@T Trt darth vader actor

[@yeeetmin1314]

the face of the pilot helmet looks like they are astonished |-

[@OvSpP]

That’s over 761k miles per second! I got whiplash just calculating that!

[@nobleman9393]

Did Somebody said DESPAIR!?

[@shanenolan8252]

It's not that strange battle of Britain some pilots had 9 hours training before combat and in the European air war American pilots were often hideously outnumbered but still won the majority of engagements with tactics developed during the war and reviving ancient naval tactics

[@chrisblake4198]

One other factor that mitigated the danger to clone pilots somewhat, was naval gunnery. In general clone gunners on capital ships were more dangerous than droid counterparts. So oddly, the two safest areas for a clone pilot in any space battle were near their ships and near the enemy ships. Droidships may have been faster and more maneuverable, but they weren't more skilled. Near obstacles and structures, an organic pilot's unpredictability came back into play, as well as the fact that even droidships would have to slow down when flying near capital ships.

[@TheGamingSyndrom]

bot to mention, the droids had no self preservation. onr of thosr vultures might just slam into your craft, re-producing them is cheap and taking out 2 pilots in a expensive superiority fighter at once is worth the price

[@ColeTrainWayne]

I kinda wish there was an entire Arc around starfighters/space battles. We only got around 1-5 episodes around space battles off the top of my head.

[@EwanJP2001]

I always assumed that, since most of the star wars franchise is inspired by WW2, the clone pilots were a nod to the RAF pilots who only had an average life expectancy of 4 weeks.

[@stuglife5514]

Anyone who’s played ALOT of the old school battlefront 2 and to an extent the new one, my fellow ARC-130 pilots feel the pain of being out menouvered and being such a big target against such a tiny target. But it’s a space stuka so it’s obv my favorite starship to fly. Sure I’m a big slow target and the droids are way smaller, but I’ve got the style points, the sounds points, and god damn do those cannons pack a wallop

[@tripandroctonus7787]

Pilot flying into battle: "Fuck fuck fuck fuck" *sees starfighter blow up next to him* "FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK"

[@berkaltuglu8140]

I love how thumbnail has Blu-Rey

[@iamjoeysteel]

There isn't a lot of specifics on mechanical strength, but in the real world many people think drones will replace humans. At the moment however, humans can take on G speeds that the the jets themselves can't. As in many jets have limitations to protect the craft from breaking up in a hard turn. Machines themselves have computer components to control other mechanical components which all have their own limitations to extreme speed changes. I suppose in Star Wars the CIS worked out a system where an engine mount doesn't break off when a sharp bank occurs, but I wish there was some mention of it.

[@ucitymetalhead]

They didn't have to put in cockpits or life Support so i guess that left more room for reinforced parts.

[@iamjoeysteel]

@@ucitymetalhead that one fighter that is a ball with the 3 guns that is super fast has what looks like a standard battledroid which is a bit weird bc those are the most agile. I can thow it up to SciFi though.

[@MalfosRanger]

Thank you, it seems like the implicit assumption in many channels is that removing the pilot out will allow a fighter or warship to achieve air to air missile G-tolerance.

[@virgilio6349]

Separatists: OK we will have fighters, Air superiority fighters, and bombers, that should cover all areas. Republic: ok so umm, a bomber, yeah, an a multirole, and umm another multirole, and a fighter but only till the end of the war.

[@shanenolan8252]

Not just clones but regular pilots in planetary star fighter corps

[@samspeed6271]

I think that 1 vs 1 a clone could take a Vulture droid in a dogfight most of the time. Maybe even with a Tri-fighter that would also hold most of the time. But with 5 vs 1, the clone has a very bad situation. Unless he can kill them quickly, and I mean at least 1 on the first pass and another on the second, he's going to be rinsed badly. The Republic could've gone down the route of BVR combat with missiles. You see, a missile has the same advantage of a droid of much higher G tolerances, plus the added bonus of no self preservation protocols. If a Y wing or an ARC-170 were refitted with missile launcher pods with dozens of small, agile and fast missiles, it could've made the battle easier for the clones.

[@csoggydoggy]

they fought mostly in space and that means no gravity which means basically you can go any speed and they went into hyperspace so with the logic they would die every time they went into hyperspace

[@hahabigben]

I love that you used a lego picture 😆

[@skvltdmedia]

Not so much flying at speeds, but changing directions. I'll urge everyone to find a way to watch Moonlight Mile Season 2 because unlike any other sci-fi or anime it showed exactly how physics would work in space with manned craft.

[@Dbunk0]

2:50 ayo that's in space engineers

[@RN-rl2du]

When all of your missions are litterly Kamikaze missions

[@TheRyujinLP]

And this is why the Empire favored superiority fighters and ended up phasing out snub fighters. I love how it all comes together.

[@crudesplash5583]

I always thought tri-fighters were piloted by b2 pilots in the sphere in the middle of the ship

[@eyesofstatic9641]

Hey thanks for recommending RelaxJack! I subbed to them

[@dukeofwar1003]

You mean organic pilots were limited by the acceleration their bodies could survive...not the speed

[@goldengam3rboss88]

Well I mean if you've seen these hard-core space battles where it's a cluster fuck of ships being shot and you make it out by the skin of your teeth you'll definitely live in fear of ever having to do it again. I'd rather be on the ground fighting droids than in the air with my life almost entirely dependent on luck.

[@CloneScavengerVulpin8389]

Respect to the clone pilots.

[@H_Hold]

Just came from the Null ARCs video, forgot to comment there so ill leave it here. You know shits going down when ARC troopers roll up

[@sketchy7943]

Are there any Laat type fighters? Multiple gunners and a single pilot seem like an interesting fix to a outnumbered scenario, especially since gunners wouldn't need flight training

[@geetslys]

Yes, but their canonicity (within Legends) is disputable - Gunship fighters and gunship bombers were both a thing in Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds

[@plaguedoctor1173]

I like the image of the LEGO Republic ships

[@Straderdelta]

Only problem I have with this video is the speed of ships there is no g forces in space so they should be fine going the same speed as droids (just looked it up the a wing is much faster then the vulture droid so that is a thing)

[@KarateWrestler205]

Piloting ships against endless waves of murderous robots in space for a job yea they living in fear

[@marxel4444]

SW BF2 501 Spacebattel Flashbacks intensifies!!!

[@afro_souledits2382]

Cis spaCe flEet n fIghtErs in SPaCe cOmBat aRe supEoiR .... .* Laughs in Thrawn n a small group of fighters* lol

[@derrabbit7289]

Definitely want to hear more about droid space fighters

[@LUR1FAX]

Seems similar to the reasons real war pilots will often suffer with bad nerves. Bomber pilots in WW2 would often spend 6 hours or more just flying to their target. Once over the target, they were bombarded by AA flak, and enemy fighters. All they could do was keep flying straight, and hope they didn't get shot down before dropping their bombs. After that, they still had to make it back to base in one piece. Truly a nerve racking job. Imagine being stuck in a flying whale, being shot at from everywhere, with no escape. You're only chance is to be lucky, or to get blown to pieces by flak.

[@benjaminmorris4962]

How is it that they could could keep organic beings unphased through hyper space (light speed or faster) - both entering and existing (exiting as a nearly immediate stop) but not fighter pilots in sub-light speeds?

[@slowedworks5237]

Rip prowse

[@Huntress_Hannah]

TLDR; Rock Paper Scissors Republic chose rock, CIS chose paper

[@Shadeem]

I find it strange that the republic never expanded into shockwave weapons to take out clusters of vulture droids, smaller mine based ones for fighters and massive ones for capital ships.

[@iyzu8413]

Wouldn't it then be smarter to build like a corvette that could farm through starfighters and only use pilots for the defense of the capital ships? That would also solve the pilot problem and the Republic could focus their venators on the separatist capital ships or was the armament of the Venator too weak for that?

[@MrRochester1206]

By the math droid tri fighters go around 104x the speed of sound

[@tonythegreat4275]

Modern World - F/A Super Hornet = 9g Starwars - Vulture Droid = 3600g THATS CRAZY

[@MalfosRanger]

Yeah, not buying that a Vulture droid's frame and subsystems can tolerate more than 20 times their own mass like a comparatively more simple missile.

[@ThatTallBrendan]

OHHH I'm a _CLONE PILOT.._ Duh, how could I have been so naïve?

[@Rex-jn4fg]

Just by watching the clone wars it’s almost a “duh” tons got shot down and die when crash landing.

[@evanraynolds8699]

so TIE fighters are the textbook example of superiority fighters.

[@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436]

They need a Salamander to crush their spine with a bear hug. I swear on my leg, this is wholesome.

[@hamobu]

It's weird how the Clone War seems to be go-to part of Star Wars Universe for new content.

[@clownworldhereticmyron1018]

Because the clones are fucking awesome.