Why Cloning Ganondorf is a Bad Idea (Zelda)

[@SwankyBox]

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[@Cliffordlonghead]

Mk

[@Cliffordlonghead]

First

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Awesome video

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Yes I did it

[@Cliffordlonghead]

K K

[@geistgrace6452]

I'd like to think they fight each other to the death to decide who the TRUE Ganon is.

[@SwankyBox]

Ganondorf 1 to Ganondorf 4: "I found you, faker!"

[@glennverschoren8462]

@@SwankyBox Ganondorf 5: Faker? Your all the fake ones around here! You call yourselves my fakes? Ha you are all equally not good enough to be my fakes! Ganondorf: 1-4: We'll make you eat those words!

[@ElegyXD]

@@SwankyBox Ganondorf 4 to Ganondorf 1: who you calling faker, faker!?

[@zman837]

There can be only 1

[@radretro3777]

Sounds like a round of smash I played a few times.

[@rtg5881]

8:15 "This, too, crashes Paper Mario" - Now waiting for "can you beat paper mario and OoT at the same time"

[@tuckergregory]

Bro spawned so many Ganondorfs he started crashing games he wasn't even playing at the time

[@Toadfish10]

yes actually, OoT is used for some Paper Mario TASes

[@GODOFAWSOMENESS1]

@@Toadfish10what?!

[@Teallen96]

8:09 Wow, you manage to crash Paper Mario from inside of Ocarina of Time? That truly shows the power of 3 Ganons

[@arcticxabyss]

I think we can all agree the reason why the game crashed so much was because 5 ganons were too evil for the game to handle.

[@InternetReview]

😂😂😂

[@davidmcgill1000]

Imagine most of the crashes is due to the effects sharing pointers. So one Ganondorf allocates memory for an effect and sets the pointer, then another does the same, and now the first effect is a memory leak because there is nothing referencing it. Few moments later one of the Ganondorf tries to delete the allocated memory... while the others are still trying to access it and have no idea what to do with the memory at that pointer.

[@bumblebeegamerreal]

Wouldn't be surprised if he makes a video about his copy of Zelda OOT being personalized where Link is fully self aware and corrupts the game, because of the amount of torture Link has gone through.

[@Green_Axolotl]

❤

[@Krispilol]

Bad idea? *Ganondorf doing the suave dance in the background* Oh

[@scintillam_dei]

Terminal Montage, eh¿

[@DaGamePlace]

Apparently 4 Ganondorfs break the 4th wall striking Link and the game directly. But 5 Ganondorfs goes beyond that and breaks the computer.

[@goose4349]

If he added 6 all ganondorfs would seep into reality and just beat swanky up.

[@KevinGarcia-Karatzu]

Link: Time to go up and fight 4 great evil. Ganondorf: BOOYA

[@BladeCrossEXE]

Bet Ganondorf punching the ground could help you tunnel through some cork boxes.

[@Olimarfrompikmin]

The 2 gannon fight actually seems like a good idea for an OOT hard mode mod

[@hahaphd6856]

8:08 it's so bad an idea that it crashes... Paper Mario 👀

[@DementisXYZ]

Still a great joke

[@hahaphd6856]

@BraindeadFromBoredom I'm aware of the origins and also that OOT can be used to perform ACE in Paper Mario.

[@oldhunter607]

I still remember the fps going down when you hit Ganondorf with the light arrow. No surprise the game crash with 2 Ganondorfs on the room

[@bumblebeegamerreal]

If Penta Ganondorf already kills link and crashes the game using their purple aura, Hexa Ganondorf would cause a floating point error and corrupt the console into shreds just by appearing ingame. Even if the console is recovered, the game would either be unplayable or no save option appears

[@pokiplus9672]

me and my son laughing our asses off thinking about this!!!

[@williamdrum9899]

And seven Ganondorfs... don't even think about it. Pretty sure your N64 will catch on fire if you tried.

[@ju_scy]

@@williamdrum9899 Octo-Ganondorf: Hold my dark waves

[@chargeminecraft]

8 Ganondorfs = Your N64 blow up 9 Ganondorfs = Your N64 blows up your entire room More Ganondorfs = Worse the explosion 20 Ganondorfs are overkill and you will not survive 50 Ganondorfs, not even the entire world…

[@brian8152]

Oops, All Ganondorfs!

[@shamwow2000]

i wanna see this done on the pc port if possible; from what i've seen with sm64, it's a lot more stable than the n64 version

[@loulou3676]

Frame rates were always a bit of a challenge for OoT. I remember the game would slow to a crawl in the Shadow Temple in that big room with the guillotines and Stalfos, because there was too much going on at once, which was probably like... 5 or 6 different things moving at once? And this mad lad decides to throw himself a Ganondorf jamboree.

[@AfterTheFirstNever]

The multi Booyah firing was awesome!

[@49ersfanMatt]

I thought you were gunna clone ganondorf on the roof with his beast form you should maybe do that next I'm curious what would happen if you did now

[@EvilJawa]

Could you reduce resources by spawning multiple Ganondorfs into Gohma's boss chamber?

[@TheGreatHalberd]

"What a worthless creation that -ghost- kid was! I will banish him to the gap between dimensions!"

[@alloounou6900]

I wonder if the reason for the first light arrow crash is because the game didn't know how to handle a Ganandorf hurt state with a magic orb still in play.

[@CLxJames]

I think it’s just too much for it to render at once. Sometimes just one Light Arrow hitting made the game slow down in the regular fight

[@alloounou6900]

@@CLxJames Oh yeah, that's true.

[@dominicbonogofski]

8:54 I don't know, Link doesn't seem very phased by it. In fact, he looks perfectly fine with it. Wait a minute, the thumbnail... I never thought I'd see Fierce Deity Link with his OoT green tunic, but here we are.

[@hopejordan2997]

One, two, three! Three Gandondorf hahaha!

[@Harmon2]

I’d love to see this cloning idea applied to the different bosses to see what happens 👀

[@enochliu8316]

I love " and as you guessed it, this too crashes Paper Mario!" Reference to Stryder7x.

[@nicholasdaisyawesomeness1291]

"I command you to return them to me! I command you to return them to me! I command you to return them to me! I command you to return them to me!" - Ganondorf "LINK! I can L LINK! I can't help you! Beca..." - Navi

[@pantheman2842]

*Sees what happens when there are four* Damn, if he was four times as strong, he could have killed us immediately!

[@theduckyman8710]

I think one Ganondorf is enough. 0:04

[@Greywander87]

Is there not a way to go in and edit the effects of things like the light arrow, the purple wave, or the ground smash so that it creates less of a load on the system and doesn't crash? Or, is there a way to take the limiters off of the emulator so that your PC hardware (which I would hope is far more powerful than the N64) can breeze through these effects? Or is that not why the game is crashing?

[@keiyakins]

honestly, for the health and safety of hyrule, i think the answer is in fact "one". one Ganondorf is too many.

[@GhostladAaron]

Think I remember reading somewhere (possibly the cutting room floor) that the boss Ganondorf is stored underneath the room during the cutscene. That might be what that invisible platform is for.

[@ChairyCrasher]

8:09 This too crashes PAPER MARIO

[@abstraction6212]

The game cannot handle his power especially if you spawn a million at once. The console will explode.

[@S0oo]

Thx for putting the music titles into the description. It drove me nuts that i couldn't figure out the last track but yeah Mischief Makers ofc!^^

[@unknp]

i like how when 2 ganondorf starts the battle the cape is just chilling

[@ManohangProto]

8:09 "This too crashes Paper Mario." OMG I REMEMBER THAT SERIES

[@No-vy4jp]

Paper Mario and Ocarina of Time have more in common than we think...

[@X23Ninja]

Love the fact you're playing music from Mischief Makers

[@nickmo.6049]

My pops told me not to play RuneScape if I want a life

[@scintillam_dei]

Popsicles speak to you?

[@williamdrum9899]

He wasn't wrong

[@MTA6996]

They’re breaking the rules of tennis, thus disqualifying all players in existence by ending the game.

[@SnakeEyesOfficial42]

You see, one is clearly Solid Ganon Liquid Ganon and Big Ganon

[@kristen34896]

You are tackling all the “what if’s” I’ve always wanted to know since I first played this game when I was 13 in 1999

[@Kitsudote]

Ganondorf's true most powerful attack: Crashing the world itself! 11:00 "This is not normal darkness... This is, advanced darkness!"

[@Henry00]

Thank you for including the game sounds! That's awesome! 😁

[@Heavymetalhunk]

i wonder if you spawn them in gurudo valley by bridge and you below if you can get better framerate and less crashes?

[@tjrhodes85]

How many Ganondorf’s does it take to screw in a light bulb?

[@arabidllama]

I think the plural would be "Ganondorves"

[@CLxJames]

5:30 - makes sense. Sometimes even with just one Ganondorf getting hit with the Light Arrow, the game would slow down a bit as is 8:10 - Paper Mario?

[@Bridgetrollhaspizza]

"They all simultaneously booyah me" is a sentence I never knew I needed

[@MikaV01]

Well...there goes my plan for the weekend

[@Z-Winni]

What does paper mario have to do with triple the chaos? 8:10

[@Adam-jm5un]

I can't tell if "this too crashes Paper Mario" at 8:10 was intentional or not XD oh well, just go with it

[@kevinr.9733]

I'm not too surprised that the game crashed on the Light Arrow hit with multiple Ganondorfs. After all, the 3DS version slows down drastically with just the one Ganondorf; it's already pushing the game's engine even without an entire extra Ganondorf to render.

[@blockedjuser1272]

8:08 Noo not paper mario well at least the current game didn't crash

[@camwyn256]

You don't want to go down that road

[@Gerudo-King-Ganondorf]

vouch

[@Yellowcloud34]

11:10 watching a cutscene crashes paper- legend of zelda ocarina of time

[@PokemonRebornFan]

Maybe the same, but with multiple Ganons

[@thomascunningham7164]

No hear ne out...what if a gannondorf was loaded in during the gannon fight?

[@Gerudo-King-Ganondorf]

Awesomeness happens

[@AU_Player]

"Yo did you study for the test?" "What test?" Swanky:"LETS SEE HOW MANY BAD GRADES CAN WE STACK UNTIL THE GAME CRASHES"

[@zediahtimmons9704]

Can you load one of each boss in Lon Lon Ranch or other places

[@themidnightotaku22]

Dorf x5 is too much Ganon for some people.

[@CooperDooper38]

"1, 2, 5?" My immediate reaction: "3, sir!"

[@yonnel9571]

8:10 Paper Mario? X)

[@tb3411]

8:10 That line was hilarious and sad at the same time. I miss Stryder7x...

[@ryangainey94]

Righty, well what if we render him in a spot where nothing else or little else needs to be rendered? What if we spawn Ganon with Ganondorf? What happens when we put all the bosses in one room?

[@kylestewart5973]

It would of been sweet to see you fighting all five without the game crashing. Keep up the videos 👍🏼👍🏼

[@Alex-95-Gaming]

Stryder reference making me hope he's doing alright

[@DieuDeMort]

"...this crashes Paper Mario" Well, now, that IS unexpected

[@pappy2690]

Including sound for these is great

[@CallMeFreakFujiko]

8:10 "This too crashes Paper Mario."

[@nonenothingnull]

8:09 huh? That's some funny looking bowser.

[@nitiad4564]

How man Gans can a Ganondorf dorf if a ganondorf can dorf gans?

[@EarthBound_Fan]

Aw yes cloning the the king of evil what could go wrong?

[@scatlinksean]

When Ganondorf learrns Shadow Clone Jutsu

[@The_hot_blue_fire_guy]

Would it somehow be possible to upgrade the amount of memory that the game can use so it doesn’t crash do to object count overload?

[@nicholasdaisyawesomeness1291]

Perhaps.

[@agnuswulf]

Wait a second. So ganondorf can summon an organ and unsummon it. Just like the Happy Mask Salesman. Hmmmmmmmmmmm...

[@Okeana_Aster]

Mischief Makers music ? Dang didn't expect that to appear in this video.

[@Zenkori]

I love the part where Ganon just starts blinking purple

[@nicholasdaisyawesomeness1291]

Strangely, I've had the game crash on Project64 Emulator just by being killed by a Stalchild. Seems like just an emulator problem, but still...

[@sirmythicgamer3242]

8:08 "crashes, paper mario"

[@finntendo1]

8:10 why die you say Paper Mario? 😂

[@Winningthewormoff]

Wonder if this would go any different on the 3ds port

[@pacoramon4233]

Hey SwankyBox I don’t know if you’re busy but I also don’t know if everyone knows already but I noticed that in Super Mario Galaxy that the playable Luigi is the same height in a way as Mario while the NPC is actually taller like how Luigi should be. Now while thinking about it I remember that the unfinished playable Mario in Luigi’s Mansion was also almost as tall as Luigi. I wonder if the reason why these 2 games had the playable characters in the same height besides the heads is because if they’re not made in that way, maybe the ability to control a different character would be impossible? Or maybe in a demo (not a public one) or something having the characters in same height is used for something? Also credit does not go to me I heard about someone talking about it and I looked into it and apparently yeah it’s true that both Luigi’s Mansion and Super Mario Galaxies playable Mario and Luigi are the same height. Again their bodies are but not the heads.

[@RawwkinGrimmie64]

What if child Link and adult Link switched weapon arsenals? Can you get the Kokiri Emerald by beating the Deku Scrubs with the Megaton Hammer? Is the Forest Temple manageable without the Fairy Bow and Hookshot? How long does it take to defeat Bongo Bongo with the Kokiri Sword, assuming you can even get that far?

[@Pasakoye]

Now a Ganon video. Then a Tingle. I think MM caps out at tin Tingles.

[@scintillam_dei]

Tingle is gay, in the truthphobic way. I don't like him.

[@KeebeThePlush]

Putting that many bosses with that much code into a game is not always bound to be eventful

[@williamdrum9899]

You'd think only the first Ganondorf would act and the rest would be ignored.

[@WDreamsZ]

swanky uploading just made my day

[@scintillam_dei]

finish your

[@WDreamsZ]

@@scintillam_dei ok

[@scintillam_dei]

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[@WDreamsZ]

@@scintillam_dei what

[@troys7954]

8:07 must be pretty intense if it’s crashing paper mario

[@BWoodRap]

Dude, you got sponsored by Jagex?? That's so cool!

[@Matt-md5yt]

awesome glad you did this after you did the Spawning Ganondorf in the Ranch

[@michaelfalcone7110]

Ganondorf got tired of losing so he brought all the different throughout time to kill link.

[@kiwirocket64]

I wonder if you cloned him in Lon Lon ranch like you said then maybe it would get rid of all the stuff in the cut scene and you could just find them there maybe I don’t really know but it is super interesting

[@That2ndGuyYT]

8:09 why did he say paper mario

[@nicholasdaisyawesomeness1291]

It's a meme.

[@user-vi4xy1jw7e]

8:11 crashes Paper Mario? 🤔

[@weirdtyrant6274]

I like to imagine that Ganondorf is just as confused as Link here.

[@Nintendude.]

Yeah, what was the point of the Purple beam in the first place? Was it really meant to end link? I don't remember Link's HP going down at all. Now as an adult I take it as a Flex but yeah the first time playing the game I was really curious.

[@camwyn256]

So it seemed moderately stable with the pieces of the Triforce. Kinda makes sense that more than that, which is more Triforce pieces than have ever existed, just doesn't work. :)

[@kiwirocket64]

Wow, I’m surprised. Honestly, I thought there would be more before the game crashes but I guess since you have to duplicate everything then I guess that’s why you can only have five