Why CM Punk Had To Go - AEW All Out 2023 Review

[@KingDumi]

I really can't wait for the inevitable CM Punk in AEW episode that's going to happen at some point

[@MazeDaGr8]

We're All looking forward to that

[@CUniverse]

I was literally thinking the same thing!

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

Dark Side of the Ring Season 5 😅

[@OrochiFlamez]

He was with the company for two years and half that time he spent out injured/suspended. That being said, he helped the company get new deals, more eyes on the product, and he had some great matches, the best being the dog collar match with MJF.

[@napalmblaziken]

His Dark Side of the Ring episode is gonna be great.

[@ramiking745]

Stuff like this makes me wish that AEW had a similar setup to WWE-Peacock with the ppv's being offered through a current streaming service. Spending over $100 on two PPV's within one week is a big yikes for me.

[@MrThesupremeking]

Get a VPN and it would be very cheap

[@joedavenport5293]

I think they MIGHT be doing that with HBO MAX (or whatever its called now)

[@Zombiekilleryamato]

@@joedavenport5293MAX

[@passose7329]

Honestly I just pirate them both, put both in hbo max and I will sub, ain’t no way I’m paying 100$ for ppvs these days

[@Phyrrax]

Just be european, the PPVs are not expensive for us. 😅

[@celticbat3792]

As much as of a CM Punk as I am, I believe All In and All Out deserve to be remembered for more than just the controversy and subsequent firing.

[@vientyoungho5907]

I think the worst bit is... he despite all his big words... doesn't care about others UNLESS they are in his corner.

[@realtalunkarku]

yeah did he really care about aew? because he didn't want to help the young talent , that was a lie @@vientyoungho5907

[@paulgibbon5991]

Agreed. It would have been great if people could have been talking about how cool the actual matches were (and how the women only getting 10 minutes of a 4+ hour show was a travesty), but nope, let's have another PPV become the CM Punk show.

[@dovlaing]

I don't think either show deserves to overshadow this. Neither worth the hype

[@rileyk5228]

@@vientyoungho5907I mean, I really don't care much about people who aren't on my side... It's not that far a reasoning... Not the most professional one, sure, but very personal

[@samanthamakesasmr]

I think the funniest part about the Perry/Punk drama is that if a 44 year old wrestler told a 26 year old Punk not to do a spot he ABSOLUTELY would have done it anyway too

[@sven_bender]

Well said 😂 since when did anyone in their 20s listen to reason?

[@TONYGILLEY]

It's why I found one of his tirades at Adam Page where he used Terry Funk as an example of not taking his advice to be laughably hypocritical, not to mention that he blew Page's actual comments completely out of proportion.

[@1stKindChris]

Thats not funny Thats just life lol. At 26 we all did dumb sh*t we wouldn't agree with at 44...

[@Obscusion2]

@@1stKindChris Someone actually shared an old interview on Twitter with Punk when he was WWE Champion where he essentially said "Man, when I get to be the old man in wrestling I hope the younger talent hear my advice & just ignore me, because that's just what the younger generation always does to the older generation", pretty much pointing out Punk's hypocrisy, since he couldn't even follow his own logic from a decade or so ago. Even though he said it in a slightly joking fashion back then, it's weird when that exact situation happens to him in real life he's the one who throws the first punch.

[@cypher515]

That is so true, now that I think of it.

[@kademay6004]

I was at All Out and everytime a CM Punk chant broke out, everyone would immediately start booing to drown it out. It definitely affected the 8-man tag match.

[@wh0r3chatas]

Workplace violence is workplace violence. It's a fireable offense and the fact that it's happened twice, and the same person was involved, he deserved to be fired.

[@custardgannet4836]

Someone gets it, try that shit anywhere else in full view of your boss and see what happens. Wrestling ain't what it used to be. You can't do that shit anymore and have the company being held liable for people getting their ass kicked or maybe even hospitalised.

[@mattm7798]

So then the bucks and friends should be fired too for starting the fight last time?

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

@@mattm7798 You don't bring the head of legal with you if you're planning on starting a fight. Punk was the problem.

[@knection1986]

Eddie slapped Sammy and didn't get fired. Andrade punched Sammy and didn't get fired. Sockface choked someone and didn't get fired. I just think its weird the line was drawn here when that line was crossed so many times before

[@bashamd96]

​@mattm7798 Unless you're gonna tell me the head of legal wanted to kick Punk's ass that's objectively not what Elite wanted

[@FullmetalNinja25]

CM Punk is not "Nearly 40" he's *45*

[@shawn.j.michael]

im late to this but he was definitely gonna say near 50.

[@mrlaidback83]

One thing about I personally love about AEW is that despite the often weak build for the majority of their ppv's, they almost always deliver regardless. All Out was awesome and probably even better than All In (as great as that ppv was) imho.

[@20marvelman]

Terrible opinion

[@mrlaidback83]

@@20marvelman and why is that exactly?

[@mrdude88]

@@mrlaidback83Because it could be better. The reason why they are allow to make magic happen is because they have some of the best wrestlers and can have many dream matches. The wrestler will always perform with what they were offered.

[@Raytheman581]

So what AEW is telling us is that there's no reason to watch the shows weekly then? Got it, builds are important, a lot of good wrestling wouldn't be remembered if all it was was a good match.

[@ChrisTomson]

If WWE had lacklustre builds to every PPV, they’d be mauled for it. AEW have been doing this long enough to be mauled for it too, otherwise it’s hypocritical

[@twig8523]

I was at All Out, I am the millenial Chicago wrestling fan that is Punk's core demo. The building was totally split on blaming the Elite for screwing Punk, & just being disappointed in how badly Punk fit i to AEW, cuz... we like AEW. There were definitely lots of CM Punk chants throughout, but they had to battle the other half of the crowd. But yeah, Chicago loved Hangman on the preshow, 100% behind Kenny, it's the Bucks that are the heat magnets.

[@vampfan1991]

I was also at the show, and you’re right. The chants going on throughout the show we very polarizing, and in my section any time a CM Punk chant would start, it would get immediately cancelled out my people that were very anti-Punk.

[@mattl2238]

I was also in the building and wouldn’t necessarily put it that way…half the crowd or more wasn’t “disappointed in how badly Punk fit into AEW.” Half the crowd was vehemently anti-Punk because they were disappointed the extent to which this dude we used to love for being this anti-establishment champion of the indie worker has become a complete whiny bitch. My section was probably 70/30 anti-Punk.

[@realtalunkarku]

thats pretty crazy @@vampfan1991

[@CubbieBlue902]

I was also at All-Out in the center nosebleeds, so I had a great idea of where chants were coming from. Hardcore millennial Chicago wrestling fan as well. I wouldn’t say “half” the crowd was in favor of Punk. Most chants started and died in one section very very quickly. I honestly think less than 20% was pro-Punk / anti-Elite. Hangman and Kenny were near-100% over. Young Bucks definitely got the worst reception, but I think they went into the show planning on acting heel if their reception wasn’t overwhelmingly babyface. Bucks often act heel even when they’re babyfaces.

[@Kingofb0ngstyle]

Punk did not fit in, in AEW. He was too much about himself and helping the company, he did not care about his co workers or his boss.

[@MCBigman]

AEW seems to just consistently defy odds. Despite a weak build, the Punk drama, and coming a week after Wembley, we still got s really great show. Strap Match and the main event were definitely my two favorites!!

[@mrlaidback83]

Those 2 plus Kenny vs Takeshita were my favorite matches in a night full of largely great matches.

[@vientyoungho5907]

Honestly I think after all out last year the whole crew were probably EXTRA determined for this last dumpster fire NOT to define them and their work for the next fucking year AGAIN.

[@t.r4849]

This show was pure buns. God you aew marks will slob the nob for anything out in front of you

[@vientyoungho5907]

@@t.r4849 so you've posted cringe

[@intrigued16]

​@t.r4849 it dose seem that way and I'm not some wwe mark or aew hater.

[@coltsfan354]

Its worth remembering that even if you wanted to take Punk at his word, that he was just there to do business, by all reports he was supposed to Main Event All Out before he was fired. So if you're really just about business, and you cost your company the main event of the follow up to the biggest show in company history, some things ain't addin up.

[@hatchetrave]

I think you nailed the whole Punk situation on the head in the opening. Nobody looked good in this situation but Punk definitely looked the worst out of everyone by a mile.

[@knection1986]

​@Dr.Quarex where was this 6 month probation thing mentioned? The first I heard of it was Brian mentioning it

[@SchmergDergen]

Jungle Boy looked like a lil bitch and Tony looked like he has no control over his locker room. This was the first thing he did in years as far as standing up.

[@MrSweetpoeticjustice]

Punk don’t gotta swing but that doesn’t mean the other side can say whatever they want 🤣 I hate these situations because to me I think the bucks and the elite side are no where near innocent and I think they are just more sneaky about it whereas punk will come straight to your face. It’s honestly weird to me how everyone is acting like Punk should’ve been the bigger man lol. Sometimes ppl need to get punched in the face 🤣

[@1stKindChris]

Punk looks bad because he's already been painted as the villain lol.... The Jungle Boy situation is the smoking gun for me. So JB was told not to do it by several people, Punk was ASKED to talk to him about it, then he's allowed to go on live TV, in front of 81k people and get away with it!? Huh!?! If nobody had a problem with it, why was Punk asked to get involved? Sounds like a set up to me

[@jsssmith66]

@@1stKindChris JB had already had permission to use real glass previously and Punk as a seasoned vet was giving JB advice as to maybe use fake glass for his safety which was probably good advice but JB felt he could use real glass safely. JB should not have made the comment on live TV and being suspended was the right decision, if all Punk would have done is asked TK to speak with JB everything would have been fine but he went overboard and deserved to be fired with cause.

[@Zombiekilleryamato]

Can’t wait for Punk in AEW

[@primusvsunicron1]

Punk in WWE first probably

[@comixproviderftw_02]

@@primusvsunicron1He did that already sorta with the Summer of Punk video

[@TyMarshall007]

@@comixproviderftw_02 I think he means CM Punk full WWE run

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Same

[@michaelsinger4638]

As someone who has been a big fan of Punk for years, he needed to go. You cannot have him flying off the handle and freaking out and getting into fights whenever someone takes a little shot at him. Especially since he takes shots at others constantly. He can dish it out, but he cannot take it.

[@harveymcelroy9332]

I agree I like Punk but he needs to have tough skin can't have everything affect u

[@Venemofthe888]

If he fought everyone who took a shot at him cause he didnt like it, half the fanbase would have a black eye. Hes a very paranoid person and wants respect from everyone when he hadnt earnt a thing in AEW other than a reputation of being a prima donna. His actions behind the scenes also takes away from the events that everyone works so hard to make a show good. He needed to go being a toxic prick who needs to learn to grow a pair and not resort to violence when someone says anything about him

[@1stKindChris]

Interesting take.... I don't remember him flying off the handle when Hangman went off script during their promo. All he did was respond in a separate promo. Hangman was the one that approached HIM. When Punk did the press conference, the Elite and friends approached HIM. See, this is the problem.... the pods keep telling us how punk was the problem, we forgot the real story

[@michaelsinger4638]

If I were in Punk’s position, I would have just let it go. Or talked to Hangman privately, You do not HAVE to escalate things. Also you do NOT take shots at your boss who has bent over backwards to try and accommodate you as well

[@BainesMkII]

@@1stKindChris Punk publicly *told* them to come to him if they were upset. They only did what Punk had just told them to do. Punk's response was to punch one of them.

[@diabeticman2194]

Given all the drama/complaints of the build, I think All Out exceeded expectations, really enjoyed it (wouldn’t go so far to say it was my show of the year tho). Loved Danielson/Starks, Omega/Takeshita and Mox/Cassidy, felt like a good reset show for the post-Punk era of the AEW. Speaking of Punk, firing him was the right call, I think while he could have legitimate issues with the Elite, Punk’s way of handling these issues I can’t agree with at all. With him going , hopefully all the drama in AEW can die down for a bit

[@tspawn35]

I was excited about Punk's first arrival and then sadly, I thought AEW got better while Punk was suspended.

[@Viaraze]

​@@goby1764punk couldn't draw viewers to the show tailor made for him, but please keep crying about OC you drone

[@MrJesus4132]

​@@goby1764lmao you do realize he couldn't even draw properly on the show that was literally made for him right?

[@daviejay]

Phillip Brooks is a punk. Fuck him, and if Chicago supports him they're punks too.

[@richborn6700]

​@@goby1764none of that should matter if One Bill Phil was the needle mover he claimed the network saw him as.

[@redbigun]

Look, 10 years ago, I thought Punk was a victim of bad management and I still believe that to a degree (who fires someone on their wedding day?), but fast forward to now and I think Punk is his own worst enemy. He had a second chance then a third and blew it twice. Seth Rollins was right about him. Also, between fighting backstage and fighting and yelling at fans, how is he getting into all of these fights when the man can't win a single MMA fight?

[@custardgannet4836]

He was givin his own show for fs! he had it all and could have just worked a few more years and made millions but he loses it over the most petty shit and in the most extreme way possible. I really don't think the guy is capable of working anywhere anymore and getting along with peers and I honestly believe he is not well mentally and needs genuine help.

[@nurdsmith]

Agreed. I don't know enough about whatever was going on after Punk was fired from WWE, but I always thought he could've massively benefited from like a really good sports therapist or something. Just my two cents.

[@dicklessvonloser6909]

He walked out of WWE and sulked at home for months. There's only two ways to look at him getting fired on his wedding day: 1. He wanted out of the company so they gave him what he wanted as a wedding gift 2. He thought he was a big enough star to make WWE bend over backwards and give him what he wanted so he'd return but instead they called his bluff. All of CM Punks problems are CM Punk himself

[@redbigun]

​@@williambuckley5601The point is, if you can't fight, stop f*cking with people. Jack was out of line, but that's not a good reason to start a fight like some douche with something to prove.

[@junior-corradosoprano9435]

Fighting professionals is one thing. Fighting Normal people is another. If anything it shows how weak perry and that one young buck is.

[@xxbobsetsfirexx4269]

Good to hear that Shawn Stasiak is finally getting over with the crowd after all these years.

[@BigK13372]

Wait he was never over? Or is it because he’s one of my Boys that I believe he is over?

[@Kingofb0ngstyle]

He became relevant again, talked about it online

[@Buckdawg]

He brings nothing.

[@joedavenport5293]

Look, CM Punk is a man in his mid-40's and although no one is blameless he could have handled it better. He seems to be the common denominator. When he came back I gave him the benefit of the doubt and was hoping he learned his lesson. If you are that thin skinned at his age then you clearly have issues. He should have stayed quiet and let everyone know that what anyone said wasn't gonna bother him. As much as I like his work in the ring CM Punk is clearly a narcissist and has to be the center of attention. Everything has to be his way or no way.

[@ChrisJZedStormzone-fz8od]

To me he's like Hulk Hogan😅

[@Garmanarnar2000]

@@ChrisJZedStormzone-fz8od we’ll at least Punk can wrestle.

[@Shellshock39]

I swear this whole debacle with Punk is going to be a future Dark Side of the Ring episode

[@wingnutistaken8917]

while i think it would be cool, i feel like Dark Side of the Ring has already established a much darker tone compared to what this situation is. It definitely needs its own documentary by someone, though

[@mezeporta]

Unless some really shady shit about Punk gets revealed, I doubt he'll get an episode

[@Venemofthe888]

@@wingnutistaken8917 I mean they covered the Bash at The Beach 2000 incident so they could do Punk in AEW eventually

[@wingnutistaken8917]

@@Venemofthe888 That’s actually true, completely forgot about that. Fuck it, now I want an episode lmao

[@jayford5533]

​@@wingnutistaken8917I second that 😊

[@tiredghosts]

this is the best take i've heard on the punk situation so far. nobody is completely innocent - plenty of bs popping off at the mouth from within an environment requiring egos to survive - but punk is the double-standard common denominator who has stirred up tensions and gotten physical more than once in a year's time

[@MrBeardsley]

Exactly. Guy’s been running around shooting on anyone he has beef with, then flies off the handle whenever someone does the same to him. Only difference is he’s like 15-20 years older than a lot of the people he’s been butting heads with and should know better.

[@korywilliamsO.G.1]

The first time he was in defense mode. When 3 people not just wrestlers but EVP's of the company approached him in his private space he went into fight or flight mode. I give him a pass on that one.

[@korywilliamsO.G.1]

​@@MrBeardsleyNOT saying that Punk should've choked Perry BUT if everyone is going to use the AGE difference as an excuse then Jack Perry should respect his elders whether he agrees with him or not. 26 is old enough to know better.

[@tiredghosts]

@@korywilliamsO.G.1 I mean he did shoot on them during the media scrum and specifically said to find him backstage after the interview. not exactly defense mode when you take that into consideration

[@korywilliamsO.G.1]

@@tiredghosts I give you that one. The main thing is that no one will ever know what REALLY happened that night due to the NDA's.

[@kenterminateddq5311]

1:41 Oh man, Zane! I can not wait for an retrospective video on CM Punk's tenure in AEW.

[@1stKindChris]

Facts..... I have a feeling he's going to switch sides

[@kenterminateddq5311]

​@@1stKindChrisZane will switch sides?

[@1stKindChris]

@@kenterminateddq5311 definitely..... give it a year... or a lawsuit when all the facts come out

[@shredenvain7]

I agree with you 100% about the firing of punk. It is a very level headed take.

[@austinsmith7731]

Brian Zane is usually my go to for level headed wrestling takes

[@TheWinstonSlip]

True

[@slifer875]

I have watched brian zane for over 30 years and i have never been more scared in my life.

[@vanderful2397]

The lamest meme ever@@slifer875

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@slifer875 - You are a Pound-Uganda-She-Shade-Yale if you don't know that these incidents happened all the time in the 20th century!

[@thereelpineapple]

I want Keith Lee vs. Luchasaurus vs. Big Bill vs. Miro, the meatiest match to ever meat

[@Jettison42]

Galaxy brain booking🎉

[@mrj3t]

Add Wardlow, Powerhouse Hobbs and Brian Cage to the mix

[@ChrisJZedStormzone-fz8od]

​@@mrj3tthe first ever seven man meaty match!

[@mrj3t]

@@ChrisJZedStormzone-fz8od book it Tony!!!

[@nno6646]

Beefcastle Battle Royale

[@PedroBenolielBonito]

At this point, CM Punk is the living embodiment of Buzz Lightyear's iconic line: 'you're a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity.'

[@claymathewselevator8121]

🤣

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Makes me think of Halloween Raw where Enzo and Big Cass dressed as Buzz and Woody to fight Gallows and Anderson in a Trick Or Street Fight

[@xandersthoughts]

50 bucks? Nah I only paid 20 bucks for it thanks to a certain VPN with an aquatic beast in the name, like *surfing* on a *shark* of sorts.

[@gatchywatchyentertainmentb2090]

0:09 That’s actually exactly what I was thinking, “Another PPV? Damn that was quick..”

[@cornchipz]

During the FTR and Bucks vs Bullet Club Gold, Dax did the CM Punk hand symbol, and a few people in the crowd started doing Punk chants. Then loud boos drowned out the Punk chants quickly.

[@t.r4849]

You think the boos were piped in?

[@cornchipz]

@@t.r4849 I was there, hell no I don't think the boos were piped in

[@t.r4849]

@@cornchipz so even the soft Chicago booty bandits turning on their "wrastlin' god"?

[@cornchipz]

@@t.r4849 it was weird for sure. Considering how excited people were in the United Center for that first Collision, a real wild turn of events.

[@streamofthesky]

Worth pointing out: It was Punk that leaked the glass story. So even if you think Jack "provoked" him by saying, "real glass", then Punk provoked him by making the whole thing public in the first place. But I know, Punk and his cultists are complete hypocrites and "its ok when he does it." Jack shouldn't be punished at all, he did nothing wrong. The glass spot had been approved by management before Punk overruled it. I think it's dumb too, but it's his body and his choice. He gave a "receipt" (I thought Punk was in favor of that?) after Punk provoked him, then was physically @55@ul+ed. He should press charges against Punk, it's all recorded.

[@CGaboL]

What really baffles me the most is that Tony Khan didn't try to get Punk through sensitivity training, or have a mediated meeting with him and the Elite, or something after Brawl Out had cooled down. I mean, they had Sammy Guevara suspended and go through sensitivity training during Speaking Out after we learned about some comments he made about Mercedes Moné some time ago. So we know that he's not above doing that, and to me it speaks worse of AEW than Punk, that they just enabled him to get to this point without doing anything to avoid it.

[@dandastardly2792]

If a grown man can't control his emotions when someone is egging him on, he the one to blame

[@realtalunkarku]

phil is a mangina

[@edalder2000]

ALL Out 2023 was great fun. The Strap Match and The main event were tremendous. Both on Match of The Year lists. Takeshita versus Omega, Miro versus Hobbs, The 8 man FTR and Bucks versus Bullet Club Gold and Kingston and Shibata versus BCC were all excellent. All Out 2023 was a good reset for AEW.

[@mrlaidback83]

Agree 100% I just hope AEW doesn't have to do anymore resets due to more drama and bullsh*t.

[@kami_in_the_skye]

@@mrlaidback83 OMG THIS.

[@bodins]

CM Punk had a second job as some sort of creative influence on Collision, which is where Jack Perry wanted to do the initial spot in the first place

[@mrdude88]

LOL. So he wasn’t happy that The Elite were EVP so he wanted a backstage position in his contract if he is to ever come back, so they gave it to him. I just thought in his contract, AEW had to hire Ace Steel as well; I didn’t know it also allowed him some creative control on Collision.

[@derrickw3360]

I totally agree with the title of the video. I actually like CM Punk and I was happy that he was back, but when I heard that he got into some shit again I was wondering if there would be any punishment. I didnt expect them to fire him but I totally understand why they did. Punk should understand why he was fired too. I hear Tony getting shit for "letting" this happen. To me its like at what point are adults supposed to just act like mature human beings. If you have to constantly plan for the possibility of an altercation then maybe that person shouldnt be around anymore. All In was such a monumental even and again it gets tainted by some CM Punk drama. I like the guy but I am not afraid to call it how I see it. Their product is more entertaining than ever if you ask me. I dont think that AEW needs CM Punk honestly, and I used to think they did

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

And you just proved to be a hypocrite if you think the DUMB BUCKS and KENNY OLIVIER deserve to still be employed after last year!

[@ryanjohansson8950]

What’s absolutely baffling to me in all this drama is the absolute cult-like CM Punk fans who think Jack should be fired, Hangman should be fired, the Elite should be fired, Ryan Nemeth should be fired yet they have convinced themselves that the guy who’s started 2 physical fights and initiated a bunch of other altercations has never done anything wrong and that he’s completely justified in whatever erratic and dangerous behaviour he engages in on the basis that he’s some kind of innocent victim in all this.

[@r_kratos_b]

33 seconds and already at 12 likes that is the power of The Influencer

[@DGS2605]

I like CM Punk as a wrestler but the dude is the Antonio Brown of pro wrestling. He's got all this talent but HOLY HELL he keeps finding new ways to make everyone around him hate him.

[@shyboss15x35]

Sum say u not doin the business rt if everyone doesn’t hate u - Words from triple h

[@AndyDandyMandy]

CM Punk In AEW is going to be a massive Darkside Of The Ring episode for sure.

[@fredcasdensworld]

People act like this is first time CM Punk pulled a stunt like this, when he had an established track record of a) getting physical with someone (Teddy Hart in TNA) and b) being a malcontent (Punk in OVW with the whole Tony Atlas situation, and basically his entire time on the main WWE Roster).

[@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo]

CM Punks problem is he can dish it out but can't take it.

[@stasikwinderbaum1297]

This is ultimately Tony khans fault. He refuses to have a backbone and lay down the law backstage and that’s why all of this was allowed to happen. Say what you want about Vince - this never would’ve happened in WWE

[@KHCdym93]

Bad take on Punk. While I agree that he should be punished for his deeds, I also think those that poked the bear should be at fault as well. That’s generally how it is in other places throughout corporate America. As far as the workplace is concerned, it’s also the responsibility of the top brass to set the tone for the rest of the company and TK has proven he’s unable or unwilling to do that. The Elite, Jungle Boy and Punk aside, look back for Sammy and his multiple situations. Tony has a history of not being able to not be friends or hurt feelings when as a business owner, you have to put the pizza parties and White Claws aside once in a while and bring the hammer down.

[@ChloeSunfloraVA]

To the Punk fans who are going to get mad at Brian for what he said at the beginning of the video, ask yourselves this before commenting: When a person is making legitimate arguments as to why this happened and has explained it in a way where Punk's behavior in his return is akin to that of a toxic relationship where everyone is forced to walk on eggshells around YOUR GUY, why are you still thinking he's the victim and deserves your support?

[@SirViolentDeath]

I kinda wanna be mad but I can't because Brian makes good points about it (plus Brian himself said he like Punk too,). Honestly, its hard to listen to the recent news about Punk but getting into more fights with him being the common theme paints a bad picture. It is a shame that Punk couldnt work with the lockerroom anymore. And this is coming from someone who listens to Going in Raw, Jim Corrnette and Wrestling with Wregret and ocasionally Wrestletalk. I do like get some varied opinions on things.

[@knection1986]

To the eggshells comment he was only acting that way because he was told his producer ace steel was told he had to work remotely. Everyone is pretending like Punk does things in a vacuum and its annoying. Would I have done that....probably not but I can see if he was told his guy can't work there then he started picking and choosing who he didn't want at collision

[@ChloeSunfloraVA]

​@@SirViolentDeath I say this as someone who likes CM Punk the character/wrestler but cannot stand Phil Brooks the person 99% of the time (the 1% being when he wore the trans rights and abortion rights shirts on programming to make a statement). The people who keep blaming everyone else for Punk's firing need to separate their love for CM Punk for the reality that Phil Brooks may not be the person they adored back in 2007-2013.

[@Raytheman581]

This really brings the full meaning to wrestling with regret lol. Its regretful that punk couldn't keep it together to stay with the company.

[@mattm7798]

I'd say it's regretful Tony couldn't be an actual boss and tell everyone to act like adults vs putting Punk on his own show because the elite and/or punk couldn't handle it

[@Raytheman581]

@@mattm7798 Oh no doubt its Tony's fault as well, even more so than punk, but punk was a problem as well and lunging at your boss is just...well something else. But Tony does need to actually be a real boss or someone else can take advantage of him, I may hate vince, but he'd never let someone just straight up walk over him.

[@Kev7035]

​@@Raytheman581bullshit, like shawn and the kliq didn't practically expose the business publicly, and shawn pretty much got nothing for it, while hunter only had to apologise lol, as if people haven't fought backstage at wwe many times before

[@jamie.777]

😂so ridiculous, a true snow ❄️ flake society. Amazing anyone is outraged...... jack perry is a glorified jobber, Tony kahn is a scared 😱 baby. Imagine if they had Dick Slater in that pathetic locker room

[@korywilliamsO.G.1]

YES fights happen in the WWE but the difference is no one is running to the Dirt Sheets and talking about it. Tony needs to find out who the person or persons responsible for Alvarez finding this out literally seconds after it happened. Also he needs to quit letting the Dirt sheet guys back stage at all of his shows. Make them buy a ticket and he will see how much they like his product. 😊

[@robertgossit]

He must be a loved person backstage because I seen a lot of wrestlers watching the match... You couldn't have said it better about Orange Cassidy... He's awesome

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

Orange Cassidy will always draw flies compared to Roman Reigns!

[@wooba1207]

My take is this: CM Punk was allowed to be upset, he has a right to that, but that doesn't excuse attacking another worker, and threatening your boss. I know this was a powder keg of factors that led to this, and all of that isn't on CM Punk, but that does not excuse what he did. There is no world where what he did is fine. And the fans trying to defend him and say this was Kenny and the Elite's fault...give me a break. He acted like this all on his own.

[@VMP666]

You hit the nail on the head, Brian. Bucks, Tony, Jungle Boy all should probably take SOME of the blame here, but ultimately, it's the guy who is starting fistfights left and right for no real reason really that is to blame the most. You know how many people I know that had beef with someone else at work? Or how many people I had disagreements? You know hiw many fistfights all of us started? I'll give you a second.

[@UberSkunk]

This PPV definitely overdelivered. Cassidy vs. Mox is one of the company's finest matches ever. Per the CM Punk situation, it felt inevitable. It wasn't being dealt with, a separate roster in a desperate attempt to help Punk get along was doomed from the start. I don't think CM Punk is a bad guy but I think it's undeniable that he just plain doesn't get along well with other people. In both of these major situations in AEW, CM Punk threw the first punch when the other party merely had words. And given how much time Punk spent making snide comments about other wrestlers who, correctly, chose to ignore him, it's wildly hypocritical for Punk fans to act like Jack Perry took things too far when Punk was shooting on Hangman and the Bucks for months. You can like CM Punk and still admit that he's a dick, and acted like a dick. Like everyone else, he's not beyond reproach, and this cult of personality, pun intended, that he's built around himself that basically dictates that he gets to be an asshole because he's CM Punk and that's what he does, is just immature. I don't care how big of a star you are or how many shirts you sell, when you start assaulting people, you're the problem, and in a company that went to extreme lengths to accommodate and appease Punk after the first fight that he started, he has few to blame other than himself for managing to still somehow get fired.

[@gobo6175]

😂😂

[@mrlaidback83]

Agreed. The sooner AEW moves on from all this CM Punk drama, the better the company will be overall imho

[@custardgannet4836]

I like Punks work, always have but the guy is no doubt a dick and seems impossible to get along with. Seems he takes issue with the slightest thing and will always view you as an enemy if you put a foot wrong around him. Like the Hornswoggle story where he asked Punk for a mutual friends phone number or something along those lines? Punk immediately cut the guy out of his life. I mean wtf is that about, total prima donna.

[@kevinramsey417]

I love CM Punk but I have no desire to meet the jerk.

[@danielparker8887]

As big of a CM Punk fan I am, the dude had to go. Jungle Guy is a grown man too, so CM grabbing ahold of him doesn’t really bother me if that’s what happened. Now putting hands on your boss, yeah thats definitely going to get you canned.

[@JW666]

AEW usually do promote their pay per views really well, but I do admit that for All Out it was very little of it, rushed & it clashed with their promotion on All In, which made it kinda confusing at times. Brian, your answer to the whole thing has been the most rational answer I've heard these couple of weeks & it feels like a breath of fresh air! I've been hearing that Tony Khan's answers & decision was a wussy & non believable thing, that he wouldn't be able to handle the tough guy wrestlers back in the day - though I doubt they actually threatend to hit their boss for real unless they got screwed in their pay or something! Why would Tony lie about it & wouldn't you have felt the same way If someone was threatning to hit you & hurt you?! Oh, he's a bad boss?! Yeah, too care for the safety about his workers & talent, that's a real bad boss! (Am being sarcastic for those who didn't get it, believe it or not, there are actually some people who wouldn't get it because of misinterpretation!) So Tony needs to be more of a leader, ok I can agree with that, but If I was a wrestler I would still rather work for Tony Khan than Vince McMahon! "But Vince is retired", is he though, IS HE REALLY?! And then there's the WWE purists & marks who has been using CM Punk's bad behaviour as an excuse to complain that AEW sucks & now they are so 100% sure that he will return to WWE & it will all be great! Well guess what, even IF he did return, he would still start another fight & drama there in no time & it will exactly be like what they have been complaining about before! But they're not gonna admit it, even though that's the truth! And yes I know Punk has made amends to Triple H & Miz, but there are still other people there who don't like him & chances are that Punk will definitely piss off other talents that hasn't meet him before or they will easily piss him off. It sucks that CM Punk got fired, I liked him too, he was freaking awesome, but sadly it was necessary. He's the only one who has been starting fights backstage twice, they gave him another chance (mostly because he is a big name & he draws a crowd) but he f**ked that up & he's suppose to be a mentor to these younger guys, but what kind of a mentor just beat the sh*t out of a young wrestler who obviously needs more learning?! This really sucks & I feel really disappointing for what Punk has been doing. It was so freaking awesome to see him again 7 years later in wrestling & then this idiocy happens! If he returns to WWE, I'm still not gonna watch it, WWE can have him & his dramatic idiocy! You're welcome, WWE-universe! Even Jack Perry f**ked up, but even I think he deserves one last chance, If he does it again then you can fire him! Hopefully while in suspension he has learned his lesson.

[@ChrisJZedStormzone-fz8od]

Finally someone else gets it I've been saying this for a while and I've been getting berated by the fanboys of WWE and Punk fanboys/ 🍖 riders

[@realtalunkarku]

seperate all in and all out imo

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

The fact that you don't consider the fact that THE DUMB BUCKS and KENNY OLIVIER should have been fired years ago is reason enough for why you deserve to be Salsa-Henry-Opus-Twins in the Hamlet-Effective-Aladdin-Dash with your Been-Lark-Ox-Oats-Dab and chunks of Butch-Rinse-Avocado-Intermission-Nuisance flying all over the place!

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@ChrisJZedStormzone-fz8od - And I've been saying that DUMB BUCK and KENNY OLIVIER Core-Otter-Clam-Kim-Smith-United-Crayon-Korea-England-Rochester-Syracuse like you are the reason why AEW does Seattle-Houston-Ireland-Tampa numbers! The Dumb Bucks and Olivier will never be big stars!

[@ChrisJZedStormzone-fz8od]

@@psychopathyoutubeemployees280 see it's people like you that proves our points alot of times

[@no_one01-5]

It's the bucks for aggravating the situation and Tony for not being a proper boss.

[@nate1066pollock]

What's it going to take for AEW to push Miro to the main event?

[@danielallen3454]

The fact that Punk shoulders most of the cost here does not mean that everybody else is utterly blameless. And more people need to get that through their heads.

[@claudiobeachball]

Nobody is saying everyone else is blameless. But there have been a lot of Punk stans who deflect from Punk’s outsized share of responsibility by blaming the Bucks, Jack Perry and TK for Punk choosing to throw hands over perceived slights. Could everyone have done things differently? Of course. No one is saying everyone else is blameless. But ultimately, Punk screwed Punk.

[@danielallen3454]

@@claudiobeachball And that works in reverse, though not to the same degree. A lot of stans for TK and the Bucks want to claim that they bear no responsibility for anything. Ever.That's my main objection.

[@karonuva]

@@danielallen3454 You're talking as if there's 50/50 blame, when its more like 10/90. "but they started it" only goes so far, sure if someone punches you and you punch them back, but Punk has repeatedly exhibited hypocritical behavior where he talks shit but loses his mind if someone else makes an offhanded comment that doesn't even namedrop him, and thinks the response to any disagreement is having a fist fight over it. For claiming he works with children, it's ironic Punk is the one who acts like a middle school "tough guy"

[@MrDegan2]

Bryan is the first person I've seen asking the real question on the Punk situation. Why was he policing someone else's spot? Whoever put him in that situation is quite frankly clearly in the wrong role themselves

[@jliller]

TK in over his head?

[@ssjup81]

Because he was asked to as far as I know…but it was for a Collision taping.

[@MrDegan2]

@@ssjup81 right but why was he asked too? He had no official role or capacity to be having that conversation and his history speaks for itself. Whoever asked him to is honestly just as responsible for everything that happened

[@wave201988]

CM Punk being fired unfortunate and but should've kept his temper in check and just let things be.

[@custardgannet4836]

Exactly, a veteran of the business but incapable of being a professional. Sad shit.

[@wave201988]

@@custardgannet4836 Indeed it's sad it's one of the reasons WWE probably won't want him back.

[@JokerzGallery]

Thinking Punk had to go for standing up to a notta dime drawing curtain jerker that stood up to his authority is pure comedy If Top Dolla confronted Undertaker and got choked for it, would Taker have to go?

[@haydenlawless3248]

I’m only just starting to get into AEW Boy oh boy i sure am looking forward to seeing CM Punk having a long, drama free run 😊

[@streetrat48]

Orange Cassidy's International Championship run is one of the greatest title runs of the modern era.

[@realtalunkarku]

yup

[@MarcusDpaixao]

BZ should make a video later talking about this new wrestling Boom

[@ChaoticMeatballTV]

Whelp, it was good while it lasted. Glad I got to at least see Punk live at Revolution with the MJF dog collar match.

[@IkeAurion]

I'm a huge CM Punk fan, he's my favorite wrestler of all time, maybe one of my favorite celebrities tbh... but he sorta got what was coming to him. Yes, other parties have blame in this, but this couldn't work anymore.

[@bigbay1159]

I would have loved to have seen your reaction to him being destroyed when he thought he could fight in the UFC lol.

[@IkeAurion]

@@bigbay1159 sadness mostly 😅

[@kaice28]

What people have to realize is that CM punk is a grown man. And if you cannot not take ridicule without putting your hands on someone, then you do not belong in a professional environment. He calls himself a professional wrestler. Professional comes first. He has no one to blame but himself. Lmao, I typed this before watching the video. The creator and I share the same thoughts.

[@JeremyCouderc]

Punk is living proof that everyone needs a drink to take the edge off sometimes

[@dicklessvonloser6909]

If CM Punk had a drink, he wouldn't chill out. The drink would need a drink of it's own

[@realtalunkarku]

and probably therapy

[@BigK13372]

All he ever needed was a bloody muffin

[@jliller]

If you need alcohol to "take the edge off" then you have problems that shouldn't be treated with alcohol.

[@MrKahlerHahn]

Brian… i once again am delighted to see you speak as one of the few reasonable people on the whole punk debacle, as you did so often! Huge respect

[@dbone3356]

If TK would stop trying to be everyone's friend and run his company like a business, no one would have needed to have been fired.

[@TheMikeskillz]

That makes no sense as it’s a complete contradiction.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@TheMikeskillz - Says the Dumb Buck and Kenny Olivier Core-Otter-Clam-Kim-Smith-United-Crayon-Korea-England-Rochester!

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

@@TheMikeskillz - Says the Retro-Eagle-Tiny-Austin-Robert-Dayton-Explorer-Dukes Dumb Bucks and Kenny Olivier Core-Otter-Clam-Kim-Smith-United-Crayon-Korea-England-Rochester!

[@lazypaladin]

3:40 is my point exactly; *_Jack Perry pulled a CM Punk but because Perry isnt Punk, thats too far?! BS! Justice for Jack Perry!_*

[@lancourt]

I think Chicago will always love Punk, but they had every opportunity to shit all over this event and they didn't... That says so much that even Chicago has its limits with him. I think that they love wrestling more than they love punk, and they know that if AEW goes down, then all the great wrestling goes down with it, and its back to watching "Sports Entertainment"

[@darwinespinoza3440]

I don’t agree with this. People did way worst things in the 70s and 80s. Had it been Undertaker telling Jungle boy not to do the spot, would he still have done it? This whole elite bs gives me nwo vibes and Tony is super unprofessional by thinking it’s cool to be friends with the talent. He signs cm punk just to not have his back. He signed him to boost Aew numbers up and then when he realized that cm punk wasn’t like the other dudes that he couldn’t control he tries to isolate him and treat him like dirt. Then TK tried to make Punk a locker room leader and tries to get him involved only for him to set him up. Most wrestlers are jerks and they don’t live in a world based on reality. So you got these young dudes who think they can do whatever without respecting the veterans. What ever happened to paying your dues? All of a sudden nobody likes punk? But when he shows up at survivor series watch how everyone will tune in. This isn’t high school, whether someone is older or not doesn’t mean someone can not trigger someone. We only know what we saw and what we’ve heard but we don’t know what actually happened or has been happening behind the curtain unless they release that. I like both but the other veterans should’ve had punks back too. Whether they all get along or not, if they want to compete with WWE the gotta do WWE things. AEW looking really playground-ish and good old boy clubish. It’s not everyone’s cup of tea. At the end of the day punk is responsible for what he did but everyone’s been in positions where they’ve been triggered and instead of walking away they reacted. I don’t judge punk for that and jungle boy probably walking on his high horse cuz the environment allows him to do so.

[@Blandalorian]

This is an incredibly levelheaded take on Punk’s firing.

[@wow1371]

Brian we are not surprised at your stance, you have as much grace in your takes as Meltzer. I would say you are basically walking in his steps 😂

[@Ryusuta]

I'm surprised he didn't go full Meltzer and rate Kenny Omega's forgettable spotfest as a 5-star match. 4.5 stars seems positively blasphemous from that flock.

[@wow1371]

@@Ryusuta Yeah, I am just unsubscribing from all these channels. smh

[@rileyk5228]

Ultimately, Tony is to blame. He let this fester and happen in the first place way back when. And his statements regarding the firing and such doesn't help him. Punk's behaviour wasn't the best, but he was egged on and pushed and prodded by people KNOWING he was a very emotional person. It was just one thing after the next. The Colt rumors, Page's promo, Elite storming his locker room when he was clearly upset in the first place, whatever happened with the travel accommodations, Elite refusing to meet and work this out and actually make money from it, Perry being a little shit... It's a very clear camp vs another. And it wasn't everyone struggling with Punk. We all heard many good things about him from a ton of people. He wasn't wrong; he worked with children lol

[@Halfdanr_H]

Phil Brooks was right about using real glass, it’s not worth the risk. Jack Perry was an idiot for saying what he said on air, but Brooks was equally wrong to get so physically aggressive towards him for it. Surely if Brooks felt like it needed addressing and he’s near Tony Khan, he could’ve said words to the effect of “What the fuck is that all about, Tony? Did you see that bullshit?”. It didn’t need to go down the way it did. Also, fries ARE chips!!!

[@barlotardy]

"Big meaty men slappin' meat." - Brian Zane, 2023

[@bobbow310]

Punk wasn't the only one to tell junglejack not to do the spot. They need an enforcer cuz TK sure isn't gonna discipline anyone

[@Techguyericd]

I have no idea what Shawn Stasiak has to do with Miro or Hobbs in AEW in 2023

[@claymathewselevator8121]

Best comment 🤣

[@toddpatterson7684]

This video is funny to watch after the Punk Helwani interview…

[@criminalmindsgirl2936]

Alot of people weren't backstage to know what Punk did to make people feel unsafe. Jack Perry hasn't had as much drama as Punk. And The Elite wasn't involved in this situation. So I'm sure there's a reason why Punk was fired. And Tony Khan talking about he's a wrestling fan. Yeah, that's the issue. A grown man calling himself a wrestling fan who is running a promotion. He needs to act like a businessman. Punk is a conversational person. Khan was more concerned with ratings/publicity and trying to beat WWE that he didn't think about how Punk is a egotistical jerk. Then you have the fans/media being blinded by nostalgia when Punk returned. Everyone was warned about his behavior. WWE doesn't need him or want him. Just let him retire and we all can move on.

[@realtalunkarku]

yeah he needs to stop actting like a mark

[@ROMANTIKILLER2]

All Out was a pleasant surprise. Given most of the focus went into promoting All In and considering how the planned main event had to be scrapped last minute, I was not really hyped or excited about the event, which instead ended up delivering a very solid show. As for the CM Punk situation, while I like what his on-screen character brings to wrestling show and I appreciate that pro-wrestling is a unique business, I mostly look at how a similar situation would have played out in any other workplace, and I see no way an employee under such circumstances would have not been fired, regardless of how much of a revenue-generating high performer he was.

[@SageVallant]

I want CJ and Miro to hug it out. You need to establish the drama and stakes first though.

[@realtalunkarku]

i can't believe they still think shes hot tho after slamming head first at mach speed into the wall

[@donesko81]

Punk wasnt at all right in what he did, but the way the bucks and kenny acted, doing a lap of honour and on BTE says a lot about how petty and childish the EVP's are.

[@fntb4gotten]

Finally someone tells it how it is. CM Punk acting the fool is why he got fired. No one should be bigger than the wrestling company that employs so many other wrestlers.

[@PattyMaxwell]

Let’s goooo! Always a pleasure to see a new video from you!

[@thatguyforte]

I find it funny the same people that advocate just letting jack use real glass still make fun of and call Goldberg a moron for the same thing 2 decades later. I just don't see nothing wrong with trying to save a young wrestler form themselves.

[@benjamin29471]

I am really liking AEW, even without Punk right now - was so excited to see CM come back, both times he came back, but Khan did the right thing in finally shutting down his nonsense.

[@jrenfalkpedersen8886]

Love Punk, one of the best ever, but Tony was left with no choice here

[@hectic105]

We need to see the video I think to know with certainty what happened. You’re basing what happened specifically on what’s been “leaked” and given out by the same sources that have been an issue with this for a while now. This was never going to work if both sides of the locker room didn’t come together. But that wasn’t going to happen and I can put the blame for that on the Young Bucks with the info we have so far. Punk expressed interest in meeting and hashing things out, but they refused on multiple occasions. So with that divide, it just created a mess of a situation that was untenable in the long term. Tony has a bigger share of the blame more than anyone. If he can’t get his talent to even talk to each other, then that means the talent don’t respect him. If Punk, Perry, Page, the Bucks or whoever feel like they can do what they want freely, then they feel that way for a reason. You can say that Punk was fired and that’s proof, but I’ll believe it when he dishes out similar punishments to those that are more closely to the Elite. Because it’s easier to fire one person than someone that’s part of a clique like that that might make your friends in that clique mad.

[@melasnexperience]

Agreed with all of this. It's clear that TK isn't really the boss at all and it's just the Bucks & their friend circle running things. And the fanbase is okay with that despite what a detriment it's gonna be in the long run.

[@risboturbide9396]

It was a very fun show. Mox vs OC and the strap match are instant classics.

[@psychopathyoutubeemployees280]

That will be forgotten in a couple of months.

[@DrZuluGaming]

That the strap match doesn't have the four corners stipulation makes it already one of the bests.

[@Rahimo]

Was that a subtle reference to the situation with Kevin Scampoli/TWFS @ 6:12?

[@ImakittyLAWL]

Brian you're a great guy. You looked last the CM Punk situation without bias and gave TK the praise he deserves.

[@spac18]

@@goby1764 It does not matter if Punk is a draw. Keeping someone like Punk in the company would kill it, just like Hogan and co killed WCW. AEW would have been in a much better place had they never signed Punk, now that he's fired, AEW can focus on creating reliable stars.

[@jayford5533]

​@@spac18Absolutely agree...now they can focus again on one of the things fans loved about them, creating new stars.

[@spac18]

@@goby1764 that's your pov, not the truth

[@spac18]

@@goby1764 MJF Orange Cassidy Darby Allin Hangman Ricky Satrks To name a few. AEW doesn't need Punk or any other washed up has beens

[@spac18]

@@goby1764 you better have your brain dissected as it's totally useless

[@sven_bender]

Youve hit the nail on the head there Brian. Perry is the young kid and Punk is the matured veteran, but Punk is the one losing his temper over words. Fragile mind indeed

[@1stKindChris]

The Elite approached him TWICE over "words"

[@round105]

I think Punk is trying to be like Taker, but the thing is Taker didnt push on stupid stuff.

[@ChrisJZedStormzone-fz8od]

If anything he wants to be Hulk Hogan

[@notgonnalieitsprettyfunny7884]

CM Punk wasn’t happy as he always had an issue. Punk needs psychological help/ support going forward. Punk should recognize his behaviors and know that he shouldn’t join a company that doesn’t have a locker room leader like the WWE. WWE had the undertaker that played a role as a leader. AEW needs a authority figure (backstage / locker room only). AEW will be fine and thrive again.

[@guillermosierracuellar9812]

Waiting for the cm punk in aew video

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

Funfact:he was in WrestleMania 21 as A gangster. He also wrestled in TNA when he was Blonde. Early TNA.

[@susanmadeski1296]

Wrestlemania 22*

[@dennisblackmon8773]

I see why cody rhodes left all this drama and being a bunch of babies it's crazy to see a company that I honestly thought was the new wcw but I see it's too much like it and that was the problem in 1998-2001 having too many people having too much sway on stories and being management and being involved or straight up being the booker it doesn't work

[@PainandSorrow]

I don't understand the appeal of CM Punk. How can people take him seriously after his pathetic MMA career.

[@shanehaney6040]

I for one look forward to the inevitable documentary about AEW, solely because at this point the backstage shenanigans sound more interesting than the in ring stuff.

[@fatemakhan3843]

Ngl CM Punk has had more backstage fights than he had fights in his UFC career 😂🤣

[@markdavidson1498]

Hit the nail right on the head, man. Jack Perry sort of, I guess you could say, “started it” but it could’ve ended there too. Instead this 20+ year veteran got in his fee-fees and disappointed a ton of us.

[@custardgannet4836]

Right? Total bitch move really. He should have been leading by example but Punk obviously has a hair trigger.

[@WickedCool23]

Consider the CM Punk All Out timeline 2021: Hero’s Welcome 2022: Brawl Out 2023: Fired (with cause)