Why Cole Cassidy Is The Worst DPS In OVERWATCH 2

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[@MemeBeans5]

Your right Cassidy is the worst they should replace him with mccree

[@malekhekal4238]

Couldn't agree more

[@xzivizx]

😂

[@NutNut-yv5jr]

You're*

[@___Bandit___]

@@NutNut-yv5jr Go NutNut all over yourself and go away💀

[@nmhjjp]

We need to bring back Mcree the child molester

[@TomahawkGaming-uh9ny]

Good or bad, Cassidy is still one of the coolest hero in the game. You've got a roster of Mech pilots, war robots, medics with cyber wings, a time warper, a cyborg ninja, and this guy is just a cowboy with a six-shooter and a couple bombs.

[@brixan...]

He also has a cyber arm

[@Phillospillo777]

Everything about him is so cool, his gun with the spurs is lit af, he wears a badass shawl, and he frickin’ smokes a damn cigar the whole time he fights. I especially love that in everybody’s eyes he’s kind of a loser. Idc if I lose every game cause he’s not meta, win or lose hes a badass and I’m picking his ass as my hero.

[@aguyontheinternet8436]

the Hawkeye of overwatch

[@littlelw319]

@@aguyontheinternet8436 funny how the guy who use gun and bombs is the hawkeye equivalent instead of the bow and arrow user just in case, i'm not mocking your comment or being sarcastic i fully agree with your comment

[@operationd--msday]

@@littlelw319 cause Hanzo is too effective to be compared to Hawkeye

[@NohrScum]

"Being stunned for 2 seconds is too oppressive. Let's force respawn any support that gets stuck while not 100%hp"

[@iSuckAtGamesGG]

unless ur kiriko and u throw grandma's ashes at ur feet

[@tamooz6649]

Most supports can outlive it with heals

[@yourenotbetterthanproplaye7511]

@@tamooz6649 You can time your shot with the Magnetic grenade so no healing can save the support/dps

[@welowee7610]

@iSuckAtGamesGG I don’t know OW lore, but is that really her grandma’s ashes? That kinda disgusting 🤣

[@iSuckAtGamesGG]

@@welowee7610 yes

[@spacecat7827]

that feel when bastion has more movement now than you ever did.

[@torpid5092]

Being able to roll mid-air lets you get across gaps or roll UP objects to get high ground, which is either impossible or much less consistent with Bastion's grenade jumping

[@french_toast223]

His ult is shit so dont worry

[@hedera_]

@@french_toast223 not anymore. characters that lack mobility are very likely to die to a well placed artillery strike, and even if they get out the ult at least applied pressure to get them away.

[@sidekic1109]

@@hedera_ also it helps with getting people off the point/payload, helps with contests and last minute defenses

[@-kobian-9596]

I've always hated his ult. It's not about if it's good or bad. It just feels crap. It's not exciting when you get it. I'm always like FK sake I'll just burn it here to zone the enemy.

[@iSuckAtGamesGG]

i love his ult, for purely cosmetic reasons tho one day when i hit that 5k i can finally go to Tahiti

[@Klemen1x]

Its such a cool concept for his ult but when you actually use it its just shit.

[@Evasiv]

use it to reload quicker, thats the proper way.

[@artimist0315]

It is sad because I really think this ult could work, it just still feels really clunky and it take so long to charge you always feel like you are getting kills by accident.

[@tankata2]

@@iSuckAtGamesGG got the 5k from sigma ult combo the other day

[@BucketIHead]

i love playing as Cassidy but you're 100% right about him needing to be changed

[@epicguardian44]

I agree, I think he just needs longer range. So that he can have more consistent mid range with his primary fire and a risky close range burst option

[@hejalll]

So the fix is, massively reduce the timer on the grenade, probably. If you're quick, you can still get out so he's not op, but, it makes it much harder and something you must prepare for.

[@justfriccoff3363]

Mccree*

[@lilyb_is_cool]

I read this as Casserole instead of Cassidy lol

[@danebengeschissen]

@@hejalll give him 2 rolls to improve his mobility, getting out of tensed positions or to close range to the enemy

[@kingkobra9610]

As a Cassidy main please I just want them to increase the range before damage drop off. Other buffs would be nice if they dropped the sticky bomb damage or range a bit, but for the easiest change damage drop off range would make mid range gunfights and peppering from a distance infinitely more viable on Cassidy, which I feel is where he should thrive

[@jamesdow211]

I don't, mid-longe range hitscans only make this game less fun for a great portion of the cast if there isn't double shields (as is the case.) The better solution is to increase falloff on all hitscans and sojourn so that maximum damage is inbetween close-midrange and make cassidy on par with ashe as a true midrange hero. Also remove widomaker.

[@sgtsaltstick2729]

As a former Overwatch player, i think they should skip the drop-off entirely. It never made sense, he's a cowboy. He's supposed to fire hard gun with accurate bullet that kills. He should've been the alt-sniper. A gambit. Either you miss and waste your time on range without a scope, or you score big. Either you miss your flashbang and get fucked, or you hit it and delete the lucio by shooting him to death with your gun. That's what i liked about Mcree. Unreliable but deserved wins, unreliable but deserved lows. Justice.

[@epicardie]

he has good range imo its about his horrid ult that requires a lot of setup to be actually viable and his braindead E ability blizzard needs to change his ult completely and revert the bomb ability back to the flashbang because that actually a bit of a brain

[@krunchyapples]

Played OW since season 1 and McCree has been one the most most changed and adjusted characters over the entire life of the game yet they still can't seem to get him right. Fan the hammer, range and damage drop off, dodge roll, ult all have been nerfed and buffed in various ways over time that kept going back and forth

[@Awesomelego3000]

McCree*

[@astrolotiger]

Hopefully this video picks up more. It feels like nobody else is talking about Cassidy's issues, passing him off as "playable". The moment that hit me was when I ulted 4 people, but somehow the Mercy survived by sidestepping the bullet. I didn't even know the ult could just outright miss someone in the open like that. Personally, I think Nade, Roll, Fan and Deadeye all just need to go (as much as I love Deadeye thematically), but I'll sit and wait anxiously to see what Blizzard do since they did say in a Tweet recently that they wanted to bring more utility into his kit.

[@neilarmschlong425]

when was this tweet?

[@bruno7912]

@@neilarmschlong425 dezember 6

[@riceyboi7069]

U got a clip of that miss? Cause that shouldn't be possible

[@astrolotiger]

@@riceyboi7069 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHiZdpx_h7Cjbpo

[@Ewalker26]

Probably a bug?

[@RemedieX]

His ULT is the ONLY active cc'able ULT that doesn't provide ANY value until the trigger is pulled. Even Phara who just stays in place provides consistent value throughout her ULT. His new nade is worse than flashbang in EVERY way. It's counterable, unreliable, usually unnecessary DMG (you'll kill them by the time the nade detonates) if you're a good Cass, and its aoe dmg is near non-existent if the enemy happens to use mobility to dodge or escape its range (if it didn't stick to the wrong target or to a wall because it curves). Additionally the nade ONLY sees usage at close range while SJ, Ash, and Soldier all have bursts that can be used long range as well, so you're dishing out less overall burst dmg because yours either requires you to be much more risky (potentially abandon some positioning, unlike the others) or have enemies on you already to see any value. In other words, it's much more situational and it doesn't make up for it against good players that know how to play around it (which is much easier for this than flexible short to long range bursts). Only time nade can be "op" is against noobs. His roll is also joke - wow a reload and a small WINDOW of reduced dmg instead of the full duration. Meanwhile, the afformentioned heros either reload faster, have more DMG potential, or have a better ability in place of what Roll takes. Next up is SJ, Ash, and Soldier over there taking high ground in half a second while Cass rolls/walks to it. 2 of these have smaller hitboxes than Cass. All 3 have better dmg falloff range. All 3 have better poke dmg. All 3 have better Ults that aren't as situation dependent and do just fine as when High noon is at its best while not putting the user anywhere near the same amount of risk. All 3 have better CONSISTENT, RELIABLE, and FULLY USER CONTROLLED bursts. All 3 have better mobility. All 3 have better synergies with other ults (such as Kiriko - Visor, Bob, and SJ can shoot and do everything else while her ULT is active). All 3 are better at dueling Pharmacy's and Echo's. All 3 are less dependant on their team to succeed (bc Cass gets dove and it's gg, at least Ash can push the enemies away while distancing or get high ground) Only one here that's slightly out of place is SJ bc she's not hitscan, but we all know she basically is with how little you have to lead your shots. Cass isn't even a jack of all trades anymore. He's just "gun, shoot" with a dumb inflexible nade and a master at nothing relative to the others. It's sad as a Cass one-trick who works his ass off to have God aim and good positioning, but gets punished for playing a barely ok character anywhere outside of low ranks.

[@pacotaconep4433]

I've actually seen reapers regress to wraithing in a death blossoming because almost nothing can stop them from doing it. (Also funny thing about the Cree v tracer match up now is that you can get stuck by the sticky nade on purpose so you can blink into him with so it does self damage and you recall)

[@allstarwoo4]

On the topic of Reaper I don’t know why they made him less vulnerable on teleport. We should be able to punish Reaper for recklessly teleporting.

[@h0st_le960]

Wish I was those reapers because the second it even looks like I'm gonna ult I get melted down instantly

[@vivelespatat2670]

I love predicting Reaper that are about to ult with Rein's Earthshatter.

[@livedcoffee1719]

I think making his fall off damage better, decreasing his ult cost so he can realistically have it up every 1 and 1/3rd fights along with some quality of life changes like a minor range buff to the roll would make him feel fantastic to play. He'd fill a niche of being able to force out defensive cooldowns like Tracer, but from range. Then he'd stabily facilitate plays for him and his team.

[@thesecondguywhoknowsthings7154]

Yes cause we need more mid range what most of the roster is mid range he can't force out defensive cooldowns he should be antiflanker like he was the entirety of overwatch 1 yah know the bigger niche of backline and all.wait what it's even more important now since theres one less tank to peel for the supports what it would stop half the bull that is in the game like unstopable ults and flankers and make people go wait let's not fuck around and find out :0 wow

[@livedcoffee1719]

@the second guy who knows things There are plenty of characters great at protecting the backline like Brig, Lucio, and basically every mid range dps that's not diving into the enemy. Cass would also still fill the previously mentioned niche cause he chunks damage which is more effective at forcing out defensive abilities.

[@pokemonpro8438]

I can't believe how well this was made by such a small channel. I'm amazed

[@mercury3512]

Man, I remember when people considered him as a counter to Roadhog because obviously his flash could cancel his health regen. But now you just have to fan hammer and pray hog doesn't heal and turn around to one shot you.

[@quie9128]

u should almost never be clicking fth on cass. it’s absolutely awful now, please just go for headshots and roll to dodge the hook

[@Longder09]

my biggest problem vs mcree (if they like it or not still not like call him cassidy) if he stun you out of ult, but now hog ult is manyully managable instead of instant action so the flash no longer affect that much, and they are correct when play cree now he is literally just sym without teleport, and his sticky yes can be sometimes doing bullshuit and one tap if you aim well but sometimes even if aim well sticky not as mention magnetize to enemy but jusst stick to props on map. or if they not wanna change that back at least give him ultimate which not require you be please shoot me widow, hanzo I am shinning almost unmovable object, with extremly slowly building ultimate charge during ult, and pray they not get behind wall.

[@eraser6908]

If I were to buff Cassidy to deal with flankers the way he could in Overwatch 1, I would make his sticky grenade explode instantly (no timer). but I would also nerf its damage to 100 instead of 130, that way in order to do a one-shot combo the Cass needs either a headshot or to weave in a melee. I think that would give him a fighting chance while also giving room for counterplay.

[@xXNinjaBurritoXx]

@BunsGlazing Kekd

[@myles1973]

Sounds like a nerf

[@illansuu9572]

You are forgetting cassidys most powerful ability. His ability to swap to Sojourn and play as her for the rest of the game

[@illansuu9572]

To be serious now, to add to this i feel like his damage fall off range needs to be buffed so he can be more effective at medium range. Right now he just gets fucked by every hitscan in the game

[@dakuitichi3591]

@@illansuu9572exactly bro… the fall off is ridiculous

[@belinskiparadox7687]

As nice as it is to not get stunned every five seconds in OW2, the lack of proper CC does make it feel like dive characters get to just run rampant most of the time. If your dps/tank aren't looking out for you or your Ana can't hit her sleep darts (me, I'm the Ana that hits zero sleep darts) supports like Zenyatta and Ana are absolutely going to get bullied.

[@taragnor]

Given a lack of CC, there's actually very little that can even be done to help healers if the healers aren't good at evading and defending themselves. I mean sure you can shoot the flanker, but if they initiated, they'll almost always have time to finish off your healer if your healer doesn't react in time. You have to basically be ready for the flanker before they get in close and shoot them first, which basically means you're babysitting your supports the entire game. Even then, those characters are hard to hit, so you've probably got to be more skilled than the guy playing the flanker to keep up with them. Honestly in OW2, you need healers that are skilled at protecting themselves otherwise you're screwed. It's what I love about Baptiste. Between his healing burst and the immortality field, he's nearly flanker proof unless they come with a lot of them.

[@katsdraws]

Even if you do hit sleep, it doesn’t help. Most of them time I’m being dove by at least 2 people. So yeah I’ll sleep the genji but the Winston is still just standing on top of me slowly zapping me to death and bagging. Because there’s nothing I can do. Even if I slept the Winston, the instant he wakes up, he can just jump and clear the whole distance I got away from him.

[@ihavevisionfearme]

Ana already has enough going for her, shes easy to pick up and simple to do well as. Moreso than often anas bully everyone else. Especially tanks, which is why doomfists focus her.

[@katsdraws]

@@ihavevisionfearme this is a funny joke! Ana is incredibly difficult to play well, considering she lives and dies on how well she aims. Her nade and sleep is easily countered by Kiriko, and any ability that eats projectiles. She has literally zero mobility (which is why doom bullies her. Not because she’s “bullying” people. It’s because she can’t get away) and incredibly low DPS. She’s the only sniper who can’t headshot. If you’re getting bullied by an Ana, I think you just aren’t very good.

[@ihavevisionfearme]

@@katsdraws She really isn't that hard to play, i have no idea why people make her out to be so insanely difficult are genuinely new to fps or any game involving abilities. Her healing shots, are huge, her sleep dart, also a very generous hitbox, and her nade can win a fight and her ult make a dps or tank who's already doing a lot, do even more. I see that you never play tank then, or junker queen specifically. Ana, is an easy and simple character to play, who also does have a high skill ceiling, which encourages people to get better with her. I really understand what kind of people call her difficult to play, because currently i'm led to believe they are playing with one hand or just started playing fps games. Because my god, you have to aim in an fps game ??? Is that why she's considered such a hard support ? Lmfao.

[@draunt7]

His flash was such a great skill. That's how CC on a dps should be. Fast, and force you to quick draw to be effective.

[@Harevald]

More like pinnacle of what's bad in Overwatch. He countered everything at close range and was good at mid range. The only things he struggled with were other hitscans who can outrange and still reliably hit him. Don't go back to fucking flashbang. Nerf other hitscans range so they aren't permanently meta who can do it all.

[@ihavevisionfearme]

@@Harevald Basically. Flashbang was a braindead hard counter to any flanker or anyone in general, roadhog, rein, doom, genji, tracer, moira, if not the entire roster got fucked over by flashbang. It's a close to instant aoe stun that's really not hard to use.

[@draunt7]

@@ihavevisionfearme Sure, which is why they could've nerfed the skill rather than remove it entirely. It should be a smaller radius and shorter window.

[@Willyt-zz7sl]

I think a cool different ability could basically be a pocket sand type attack that disables get away options. Almost like sombra dust. Got a reaper who dove you? Throw your dust so your team can jump him. Got a tracer who is being annoying hit her with dust and now you have a fair fight. If cass gets no movement maybe he should deny enemy movement. This would be weak vs long range however.

[@Pebbeyt]

That just sounds like flash tho tbh, but a cool idea

[@Willyt-zz7sl]

@@Pebbeyt I guess my idea was it wouldn't stun just deactivate certain get away tools. It would make diving more risky and less free like it feels now.

[@Pebbeyt]

@@Willyt-zz7sl Ohh, that makes much more sense lol, nice idea! They would just have to worry about the cooldown so it didnt turn into Sombra Hack 2.0

[@Jamie_241]

@@Pebbeytthe biggest problem is there’s no real way to balance it as a cooldown. mobility denial is *huge* so cass would go right into being a high priority dive target, and if you just stagger a 2 man dive by a bit then it’s basically game over for him

[@Reverend_Mohg]

Silence abilities are the worst and OW1 Sombra prooved that.

[@boones917]

Blizzard say they don't want stuns but then make doomfist be able to stun every 3 seconds in the most recent patch🤡

[@dooddoingstuff]

Every four seconds now

[@boones917]

@@dooddoingstuff yeah , i still think his normal punch shouldn't stun tho, he needed a buff but that wasn't the right move imo

[@dooddoingstuff]

@@boones917 agreed

[@vivelespatat2670]

Overwatch players when the dive tank does its job :

[@churg5258]

Cassidy was one of my most played heroes in OW1. He always felt consistent in most situations and was fun to me. Would love for him to get back into a similar spot where he was in the past when he was just a fun hero. Great video. Liked and subbed

[@myeternalsin]

This was a very good video, I can tell you’re passionate about the character and are genuinely frustrated, however you still offer insight and suggestions on how to better the character. Good video! My joke suggestion for an ability would be, to give him a horse. But my real suggestion would probably be what if he had a whip or lasso (to stick with the cowboy motif) as for what they could do I have no idea I don’t play him enough to have legitimate suggestions but I do feel the same way that he doesn’t have a same place in the game as he did before.

[@subz3ro358]

I think that Cass should fill the role as the 1v1 king. My proposed buffs would be to give him the old fire rate and reload speed, roll on 5 second cooldown and a longer range, and 75 damage pellets. To compensate i think I would give him the 200 hp, just so he's more frail if he misses his bullets/tried taking a big fight alone

[@belinskiparadox7687]

Remember when McCree used to be considered a Hog counter? Lol. Lmao

[@MoreBliz]

Exactly why I loved Ow1

[@thesecondguywhoknowsthings7154]

Or a tracer counter

[@aznracerboi1]

This is the overwatch stream of consciousness I didn't know I needed. Good job man

[@nxthanhehe6437]

you hit the nail on the head, mate. liked the video

[@Secret0zv]

They need to buff his range by a lot, maybe his damage as well, remove the grenade, and tighten the spread on his fan the hammer by a considerable amount, and I think he'd be good again. Still very simple, but good.

[@gaaratf2fanboy76]

Agreed, he needs a different ability instead of grenade

[@Harevald]

Nerf other hitscans range and you will see a lot more Cass.

[@Kyrious]

Increase his medium range damage. Increase his headshot multiplier at range 5-6 headshots is unacceptable damage for any burst hero. Allow Cas nade to detonate instantly by pressing the button again, or hold the button to remove the tracking on a throw. Increase his roll distance again. Being back flash so he cant protect his supports again.

[@vivelespatat2670]

So, Ash ?

[@Secret0zv]

@@Harevald Yea, if they nerf everyone else to be worse than Cass, then Cass will be played more. Like... duh.

[@blanejohnson4050]

Insanely well made video along with great gameplay to go with it, well done!

[@mr.froggy2899]

As a genji player I’m glad cc is gone, flash was ok and you’re right when you say you’re dumb if you run in thinking there is no repercussions but there were so much stuns it made it impossible to play dice or stuff like genji, stuff like shield bash, flash, sleep, hook made it impossible

[@Everafter282]

This reminds me of a wonderful video that I watched recently about how McCree went from One of the best Overwatch 1 dps heroes to the worst Overwatch 1 hero and a lot of the same points were made. About how his damage being nerfed to the fucking floor in long range and how his Mobility was useless against his matchups. Not to mention that his ultimate to this day still cannot hit targets out in the open when you cast the fire button. EDIT: Just found the old video. It's called 'WHY DOES BLIZZARD HATE MCCREE' by spumwack

[@katsdraws]

His god given name 😩

[@krunchyapples]

Lmao will always be McCree. Not gonna call him fukcin Cassidy. Also I have played since season 1 and I can verify that for a while he was one of the best dps. Fan the hammer could melt a Hog instantly and he could out snipe a widow. Then for some reason Blizzard decided they didn't like him being a viable choice so they nerfed everything about him from Fan damage to range and damage drop off. Removing his flashbang was sort of the final nail in the coffin because now he has zero maneuvers against whatever tank decides to rush him. Probably their worst change to him out of everything else

[@gaminggaming196]

thanks for finding the other video i barely played ow1 and i was mad curious

[@victorwallec2534]

MecRee has a special place in all of our pants

[@coquifrog]

I laughed...

[@McOmeg]

He was literally the only reason why i got into ow at all, it hurts to see blizzard massacre my boy...

[@octolirious5035]

I want them to lean into the bounty hunter angle, either give him some sort of information tool, that alerts him to nearby flankers or straight up, just Zen's discord orb. A way for him to mark a target and deal damage. I feel like dueling should be something he excels at.

[@nogunk147]

Here's some things I've been thinking to maybe make him a little more viable. -increase his base movement speed a little more so he's not the slow moving target and can disengage or engage easier. -Consecutive shots that hit increase his reload speed by 10% up to 60%. It cancels upon reloading or missing a shot. This will give him more stopping power vs tanks so he's not just peppering them even at close range since if he has to commit to being in a tanks preferable range then he should have a better chance at contributing more damage to them. Could even make it so his damage ignores armor. His bullets are hollow point after all, theyre designed to HURT so it makes sense lore wise and it would make another dps that specializes in tank busting. This should not really effect his vs dps or supp capabilities to where it's broken since it's much more difficult to hit those smaller heroes and even if you did they'd die in 2-3 shots anyway like it is now. -Turn control while combat rolling. Turning with your mouse while combat rolling will change the direction he rolls in. Maybe adding a self heal to it like 50 HP or something so it can actually be a defensive ability. The damage reduction alone doesn't do much since you can't shoot during it so it's only useful for surviving things that would otherwise kill you like tracer bomb or something. Obviously the reload is good but I'd like also if you could say roll while not pressing any movement keys and it'll keep you in the same position but still reload your weapon. -While in Deadeye you are immune to all forms of crowd control even roadhog hook etc and maybe bump the damage reduction up to like 50-60%. I personally think the ult is fine as a zoning tool but the fact that you can bonk him out of it completely invalidates that aspect and makes it so you don't really have to respect it like other dps ults. Just some of my ideas

[@bardedkgaming2529]

I know this is a bit late, but hollow points would actually be worse against armor since hollow points are made to dump all their energi into the target as fast as possible, which is what armor is really good against, speed is what beats armor, since a fast bullet dumps less energi into its target. sorry for the rant but I cant stand gun/firearm misinformation, and if I get help someone to get smarter then the world has gotten that small bit better.

[@zadovrus1624]

They removed flashbang and left Hog hook, that's all you need to know about OW balancing :(

[@theretardedcommenter3074]

At least hook requires aim to use

[@OpEditorial]

You're also playing a cowboy, with a completely ret-conned backstory, a cybernetic arm that doesn't do anything and you're running around with a lit cigarette in your mouth.

[@comiccraze927]

Yeah, playing him makes me want to join him in smoking, because I can't breathe when he has the short end of the stick on almost every front, gameplay wise.

[@cloberlobster2276]

I wish how he could use multie doges, multiple nades and use one giant slide (like soljourn) when using his ult, before auto-aiming all around him like a reaper ult.

[@andrewvillatoro4605]

I don't know about multiple nades but fuck me he definitely needs multiple or Atleast a long distance dodge. Or maybe reduce the cool down

[@koishisen]

I was just going to find an audio for my next edit and surprisingly ended up watching a 20 minutes long video of a person arguing why McCree is mid and how he could be better, actually nice and underrated video.

[@Clairehouse32]

This is the style of overwatch content I've been looking for. Great takes and an interesting video. Keep it up!

[@deanfromtarget3554]

Idk if these are good ideas, but what if they also made his flash an actual flash with white screen/concussed but at least the enemy can still move. Also what if they made his roll like hanzo and he could roll 3 times or something.

[@hedera_]

Extra rolls isn't a bad idea honestly, my main gripe as a cass main with a lot of hours is a lack of mobility and the terrible ult. Maybe he can stack 2 rolls like how zarya can have 2 bubbles saved up or how junk can save 2 mines.

[@murpl1462]

blizzard when the counter to flank heros is crowd control:

[@overloadedninja4208]

God you’re mentality about how others think about the characters and the abilities is so exactly the same as my own thoughts that I could honestly feel like I made the damn video myself and honestly you earned a new subscriber and like for that you had to. It was too on point with my exact thoughts

[@DrWavy-fq2qk]

Feel like I’ve been waiting for this video to pop up in my feed for forever but it never did till now. Very well said and constructed. Keep up the content

[@miwky406]

Always felt like McCassidy should've been balanced around a medium-close, enforcer/brawler that character that counters flankers, protects squishies, and occasionally helps the tank pressure the enemy to back up, but I feel like he never even really fit that role super well in ow1 :p

[@mysticwraith6667]

It's such a shame Jesse Mcgree got removed i loved playing as him

[@conkcreet1344]

Its good because they unsexually assulted all those people. So brave of them

[@vivelespatat2670]

@@conkcreet1344 Didn't know Tracer's Recall existed IRL

[@alleman0378]

Thanks for taking this up! My Cassidy feels hopeless some games

[@Xmark3000]

This is going to sound a bit weird but what if they gave him a trap ability like Junkrat but instead of a floor trap he wrangles you with with a long range rope like Roadhog's hook? The idk if the rope should cancel out abilities like hook but it temporatly reduces the movement speed of the captured hero and not let them jump. I think that would be an interesting idea and still go with the cowboy theme 🤠

[@Nikita_Runa]

Imagine Jotaro is reworked to bring out his new stand high noon and ora ora's all over the enemy team

[@Enlightenment99]

Hol horse ?

[@leviathan-supersystem]

Zen and cree teach perfect positioning.

[@slimsalads3491]

Honestly I think they should give him some sort of marked for death ability where he targets an enemy (visually he just pulls up a wanted poster of the hero) and while marked, any damage you do does increased damage or you get extra ult charge off them for a short period of time

[@piercebottomtext4827]

Yknow...that's not bad. Make him an ult machine, give him an ability that's like Discord and he can farm his ult quicker. Maybe he gains some temp armour for a short few seconds with it if he ends up needing sustainability. It sounds fun anyway, I really like that idea lol

[@wingedbluj1674]

So kinda like Lex from Paladins? He always has a target that he gets specific advantages against, like increased movement when near them, a little lifesteal when hitting them, being able to see them through walls when close enough, ect. Perhaps that can work a similar way for Cassidy.

[@Muteki_REN]

the suggestion to kinda fuse the two abilities is lowkey genius, sticky-stun on a timer is a good compromise

[@atomicmerp7549]

I'm not sure because unless you take the enemy by surprise or while they're on cool down, like in the vid, only 2 heroes are completely defenseless from it.

[@GHOSTTIEF]

That defeats the purpose tho unless it actually sticks so reaper and tracer or genji cant ignore it

[@aguspuig6615]

so you get the downside of the flashbang, it doesnt do damage, and the downside of the grenade, it doesnt explode inmediately, thats just a nerf right?

[@randomahnameisthename3147]

That’s a nerf is anything lmfao

[@fruitspunchsamuraig4546]

As a semi-casual player, another perspective that frustrates me is that its also just WAY less fun to play sticky bomb. What I've been saying is that the loss of his flashbang robs him of so much identity and player expression, there were levels and subtle different ways to playing him, the grenade could do 300 flat damage and Id still like it less than flash. You could tell a Cassidy playstyle purely by how they use their flash. Flash into headshot, flash into FTH, 1 shot into flash into kill, fucking flash just to get them to waste their invul like a psycho. There was mind games with flash against genji/tracer/reaper etc. You could just tell who played Cass and how they did it, SO much expression from a stun since his kit was built around it, give stun to anyone else and its a rock but with Cass its a tool. Sticky, how else do you use it except to get extra damage. I guess sticky, walk away but that aint reliable, and half the time I kill em before my sticky goes off, its just fuckin boring, no matter how good it is I dont enjoy having a skill I press for the sake of pressing. Sticky just makes Cassidy play like a tool designed for one role, rather than a character WITH tools. I like his other skills (roll, FTH, Deadeye) cause they can be fun but they also get bogged down by this character crisis. If stun is too oppressive, do something else interesting imo, as it stands rn sticky is just plan simple dull.

[@Blastopia]

In overwatch 1 I ALWAYS fan the hammer. I’ve escaped so many times from the enemy on one health because they went for a headshot instead.

[@ivlime9969]

That's impossible unless they didn't shoot you before hand if you were a hero with 250 health which only trash mccrees would do. Fanning the hammer was not a sufficient in OV 1 at high rank. That was low level strategy. I'd stun head shot kill and still have bullets to shoot.

[@Blastopia]

@@ivlime9969 after they nerfed his fire rate flash plus headshot and melee was inconsistent Id survive it constantly at masters

[@Blastopia]

@@ivlime9969 “if they didn’t shoot you before hand” *soldier healing, Lucio self heal, Reap wraith, Genji deflect, Moira fade,*

[@lauriasu2457]

But like can’t he just shoot you a second time in the body? Shouldn’t be too hard since you were in masters.

[@Blastopia]

@@lauriasu2457 not if you have any of the 10 million abilities that make you invincible

[@poundcake681]

Love this video! The depth and detail is great

[@jackomecamorfo6060]

just give him the kiriko teleport 💀

[@awkwurdknight2088]

Who else still calls him “Cree” in callouts?

[@joeynyesss1286]

me and my friends call him mcsexoffender

[@MarkStillPlays]

everyone who plays with vc off:

[@Pejgn]

Literally everyone lmao

[@aguspuig6615]

overwatch players be like, buff Mcree, then complain when his flash is buffed by literally 10 miliseconds, my brother in christ thats less than a frame

[@jasonmension3979]

What do you think off giving Cassidy a new form of cc that takes sound queues away onna grenade that also has a boop like junkrat or bastion which I think would combo well with his role. Edit: forgot to explain why I think a flash bag taking people's sound queues away would be so amazing for cassidy, but his ult is actually good but only when you get that rare ult off that everyone's to busy to hear, which if cassidy could take your sound queues away for a few seconds, Then he could actually get his ult off and I think it would add an extra level of skill to his ult that would be super fun to play around with on top of the fact he would synergize with others more where if others have ults or abilities they just straight up yell out and get themselves killed with, he would be a great pick with them, Like sombra or junkrat.

[@DRB30240]

Would love to see you talk about worst tank or support. Support I’d say Brig. Tank probably Junker Queen now

[@chiefinasmith]

I don’t know how they could change Brig without making her broken again

[@sQrLLZ]

@@chiefinasmith They are already confirmed to be changing her ultimate

[@tumultoustortellini]

@@chiefinasmith New ult, 25 more health on both shield and health

[@KURENANI]

@@chiefinasmith more hp

[@chiefinasmith]

@@tumultoustortellini that’s a good idea. Her shield is pretty weak

[@Mr.Corn-Bread]

Honestly feel like they should just give him his flashbang back, it was more of a punishment for people getting too close

[@redram6080]

I agree. Just let him be the one exception to the dps can't cc rule. We have a dps that can heal, many tanks that are just damagers with high hp, and healers that are damagers that also heal so why in the world can't at least a small minority of healers and damagers have cc?

[@comiccraze927]

It wasn't even a ranged CC, it was a "you best get outta ma' face" option for a character built around it.

[@Mr.Corn-Bread]

@@comiccraze927 exactly!

[@BucketIHead]

exactly

[@ashyslashy3636]

@@redram6080 a small minority of "Healers" do have CC. Ana's sleep, lucio zen and brig have boop. As to why its bad for dps to have cc is because its been proven it leaves the game in a bad state for the characters it largely affects. Cassidy's flashbang in Ow1 was oppressive and annoying and it was an easy one shot and counter for a large amount of squishies and ults. Blade, blossom, ball, shatter. Picture this, playing rein, putting ur shield down for a split second to get flashbanged, bashed, slept, hacked, etc. simply put, when you put cc into a shooter game it has a large affect on the game. CC was a huge problem in Ow1 for tank players anwwho.

[@CrumbCCM]

I thought this was from a big youtuber but you haven't even reached 1000 YET. Very impressive video, keep at it!

[@imab0t643]

This Is content I've been trying to see recently keep up the grind.

[@thesecondguywhoknowsthings7154]

Funny enough giving brig her stun and McCree his stun fixed half the game right there

[@taragnor]

Yeah it's kind of crazy they took away the stuns then didn't nerf flankers like Tracer to compensate. It also fixes the problem with Hog being oppressive as hell, because now you have more characters that can stop his healing. But apparently no, being stunned for half a second is too oppressive lol. Yet they leave in sleep dart which disables you for several seconds. lol.

[@meat.]

@@taragnor genji still getting clapped by new nade

[@ihavevisionfearme]

@@taragnor Ana seems to be just protected heavenly by the community, even though both her abilities are incredibly powerful. She's probably along with mercy the least fun supports to play against.

[@futanaritentaclefucker]

@@ihavevisionfearme because Ana requires skill

[@ihavevisionfearme]

@@futanaritentaclefucker Then why is widow, doomfist, sojourn so hated ?

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62]

*inhales* His name is Mccree

[@ryebananabread7843]

One idea I had that would take a ton of work, but would kinda solve the whole counterpick system, is that characters could have customizable movesets. Completing challenges could unlock different moves for you to use. Some people miss Doom’s uppercut, so make it a move that can replace his rocket punch.

[@theminecraftduo1434]

So like , the game "paladins" ?

[@ryebananabread7843]

@@theminecraftduo1434 only heard of the game never looked at it, but good to know my idea already exists

[@jamessnyder2652]

At around 15:00 Ashe's gun is missing from the screen, was this done on purpose, and if so how? because I'm kind of interested in playing without her scope on the screen lol

[@brqe]

It just didnt load I'm pretty sure. It happens to me

[@wysh6107]

cass was my primary dps pick back in ow1 but in ow2 i find myself picking my other favored dps (mei and pharah) more often because everytime i would play mccree i feel like im not contributing enough to the team and i couldnt figure out why, i 100% thought and still think removing flash was a good thing, and i also think the magnetic grenade (when it works) is a good ability, just not for cassidy

[@gipsydanger2391]

Cassidy should have like a defense Matrix where you press the secondary shot or idk and the zone in front of you Is "protected" and any grande or something bigger Is destroyed with a shot.

[@Skeletonin]

He’s not good, not bad, but he sure as hell ain’t ugly

[@iownarazor]

fav voice line

[@glassofwater281]

@@iownarazor I like spamming, "I ain't gatherin' no moss!"

[@Ophy.Yt.]

this is an absolute masterpiece

[@JarJarBricks01]

Replace his magnetic grenade with a lasso. It wraps around enemy's legs, so they can still shoot and use their abilities, but they're stuck in place. So basically a junk rat trap except you can aim it.

[@music4thedeaf]

He'll yeah. Imagine landing it on tracer lol

[@music4thedeaf]

That would be awesome against phara and echo even mercy

[@sharkkitty6881]

As a Cassidy main from overwatch 1 to overwatch 2 with like 600+ hours on him; yeah every point you made was what I exactly thought when I walked into the overwatch 2 beta. He’s only good if the enemy team isn’t a better; got absolutely dogged on last night by a pocketed soldier on high ground 😞 yet somehow some games I’m styling on the ulting Genji, flanking Tracer, and diving DoomFist who keeps killing Ana. Great video dude! 👍

[@Harevald]

Soldier always was better than Cass except for having cheese flashbang in ow1. 20 meters range vs 30 meters range is where Soldier shines. All that mobility talk yada yada, it's the fact that other hitscans outperform him by a mile. Cass vs Junkrat or Pharah or Torb is completely fair matchup based on positioning, surprising enemy or range. But try that against long range hitscans. You just get toasted above 20 meters, you have equal chances in between 10-20 and you have better below 10. But since you have no mobility or survability to hang around 10 meters, you mostly fight others at 10 and above, while longer ranges play at their comfy 20-30. So you have to play smart to have equal chances while they can for free have advantage over you and can beat you even if you stay in your good range.

[@clammymantis4884]

what happened to the cooldown timers at 14:12? And Ashe's viewmodel at 14:36?

[@eyen22buck]

Replace his nades with lasso lmao. The lasso would "stun" your target (disable their abilities and weapon because their hands are tied) but they can still move, and you can be pulled to them. Also because he's a cowboy.

[@iSuckAtGamesGG]

and his ult would be that he calls in a horse, lasso's someone, and drags them through the dirt lmao

[@eyen22buck]

@@iSuckAtGamesGG There's an interaction where Cass says something about Torbjorn refusing to build him a robo-horse, sooo it might just work

[@MILOPETIT]

Maybe lasso makes it so you can't go away from him Like you're locked within a certain distance from him

[@GoInGcRz]

Giovanni: *names all the heroes great abilities Talking about Zymmetra: "...what a sad life" lol

[@chestercs111]

To make Cassidy better I would say his ult has definitely has to change. Either buff it so it can lock on faster or can't be blocked and only avoided and make him move at normal speed at least. Or it could just automatically fire when it knows the shot it going to hit. Or just give him a new one all together but idk what I would make the new one. His damage definitely needs to be buffed to fall off at a farther distance or just not make the fall off as bad. Nothing feels worse than hitting like 3-4 headshots on a 200HP charcter at range and they still live. His abilities need to be changed too, I like the roll and reload since his gun only has 6 shots and sometimes u need ammo quick. But his grenade needs to change again, maybe change that ability to have his robot arm do something? Either fire like a powerful blast or some kind of blinding effect like a flashback in call of duty

[@tomwright4355]

I subscribed great video, great evidence

[@zemari5180]

What are you talking about as long as you hit every headshot at medium range and somehow not immediately get swarmed he’s great. Sounds like a skill issue. But seriously they neutered my boy.

[@abrakupokus1245]

Just lower Grenade damage slightly and increase range a bit. If he lands it, that can end up being a forced respawn for most supports and dps. However it’s only really good for close range. As a result, it just makes him annoying to play against.

[@ohthat-mad-lad-centurion4610]

On god they should add a lasso ability to him that works like a hook but will keep ‘em stunned a while after the tether and should have the option to either bring in the lasso’ed target or keep ‘em in place

[@MarkStillPlays]

8:17 dont forget the fact that kiriko not only has 2 ways to basically escape the nade/survive, she can also kill mccree with 2 headshots (might sound hard but trust me in close range you can kill him quickly)

[@torpid5092]

I mean, Cassidy can also kill basically any non-tank hero with two headshots. And his weapon is hitscan in comparison to Kiriko's projectiles (Not to mention he can reload instantly)

[@hedera_]

@@torpid5092 Sure, but that still requires well-practiced aim, good positioning, competent supports, full awareness of enemy positions at all times and cooldowns as well as your own, etc. There's simply too many counters or better options, not to mention there's heroes that can easily kill in the same amount of time or the same about of shots. If you're getting two-tapped that's because of a lack of awareness and positioning yourself in his effective range, considering his dmg dropoff is godawful.

[@MrMechLad]

Very well put video, they pretty much destroyed Cass' identity and role in the game, and now he really serves no purpose and everything he's good at, every other dps can do it better. At this point they should just give him the flash back

[@gritticus]

How did you turn off your gun models at around 15:00 minutes?

[@hoothoot7122]

I hated getting flashed and one shot or fanned, I wonder if giving him another roll would help

[@bluehugh2]

idk I've been doing well with Cass in Season 1 + 2 (Diamond 3). He does a ton of damage if anyone gets close. Just have to keep track of enemies' cooldowns so they can't dodge his grenade. Enjoyed the video though. I'd be happy to see a Cass rework

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

I mean I slaughter with Cree so I don’t really understand this video. I see how he could need a rework but I play him with little to no issue

[@mockingjay2054]

I don't really get what's being said in this vid apart from the ult, when I use him I don't suffer alot of the downsides mentioned and wreck house

[@maverick4255]

Yeah the ult is bad but his gun is really good. I think he’s the best midrange character, even a good tank killer. Road hog gets melted if you hit your headshots.

[@ICECAPPEDSKY]

I mean I regularly get double or triple kills using his Ult. It’s very reliant on good game sense but it’s definitely doable.

[@zarbonthebeauty5086]

I think he’s amazing for dealing with flankers other dps / healers. I see Cassidy more as a body guard to his team rather than someone who should be played aggressive. But if you’re a good Cassidy I’m sure you can find a balance between both. But he definitely has a more defensive move set. Roll, fan the hammer, and even sticky bombs are all stay back utilities.

[@TwoBadYe]

Actually L take

[@narnianninja4964]

@@TwoBadYe Not really, makes total sense to me

[@jacobmartinez8288]

The problem with that is his entire kit is shit. I would know because I'm a Cassidy main. The roll barely moves you so it's more of a roll behind cover instead of get away. His fan the hammer is useless against squishies since it has a random spread and does reduced damage from 70 to 50 so you would by some stroke of luck atleast hit 4 of those shots to kill someone at full health. The grenade while at times is very powerful is extremely inconsistent at targeting and sticking to enemies and is countered by almost all meta heroes. The only reason I still main Cassidy is because I like cowboys

[@heyfamilyguy]

Did you even watch the video? His kit sucks for peeling too now that he doesn't have flash. Flash was what made him good as a "bodyguard" but now he just has an inconsistent, unrewarding, generic sticky bomb instead

[@eugenekrabs6400]

But the sticky bombs are useless for defense, they’re super predictable and have a delay on them. You can just use a teleport, recall, wraith, freeze yourself or any ability that serves as an escape or cleanses status effects. It’s only able to be used on characters who can’t escape or cleanse themselves, which is most flanks, unless you’re sneaking up on them.

[@thunk6681]

5:05 By "respect her sightline" do you mean jump around crouch and spin like an ape till I find cover?

[@philipooi94]

If they keep his role as anti flanker, grenade change to an actual flashbang, partially blind(edges of screen, fade till middle), immediate impact, small aoe, 40% slow, and silence 2s, 30 damage. That makes it a skill based ability to land, also on landing it you still need to hit shots. Even if you hit this, enemy still can out aim you and kill you anyway since it isn't a stun. If they want to branch him into a mid range shooter, give him some kind of "take aim mini high noon" ability, for 3s slow himself for 40% and reduce damage drop off to super minimal. Can roll to cancel out of the ability. Screen could also fade in this mode and enemies appear slightly red like in high noon.

[@deadbot649]

This Cole Cassidy character seems to be a lot like Mcree 🧐

[@ScarasRealLover]

Ok

[@iSuckAtGamesGG]

they changed his flashbang to just a bang so they needed to change his old cool name to just a name

[@jamesbland5207]

If it were up to me, I would remove mag grenade and give him the coin from UltraKill. You hit the coin and it crits the nearest player. It also helps with shields cause if you do it right you could hit the enemy behind shields.

[@Giovanni-A]

That sounds cool. I also think that ability works better than a grenade for a cowboy

[@pineapple3558]

Just googled it and holy shit. That is perfect.

[@thecanadiandefender1451]

Reminds me of Saati from Paladins Only her coin sucks ass and I always forget to use it

[@airhead7379]

how do you get the no weapon or scope hud at 14:40 ?

[@JakeLuden]

Holy shit, what a quality video. I thought you’d have 500k+ subs when I went to sub. You will in no time with the effort you put into these.

[@WhoMusic]

I feel like at 11:14 you should have backed away to a safe position after you used both your abilities without killing him...

[@bets6800]

He has no movement abilities outside of the roll and even that's generous to call a movement ability

[@kujojotarostandoceanman2641]

Walking backward will literally make him move easy to be aimed

[@postonian425]

as a cass main, i agree with most of the points in this video but something i think you failed to mention is that optimal cass is so fun to watch, i might be biased but i love watching really good players play my favorite character and do really well with him

[@sonjakozlov6582]

underrated you deserve more subs tbh

[@vestingsmil3952]

It feels like they switched his and sombra’s roles. From sideline/adjacent dps to one that focuses on light/low health hero’s that rely on movement abilities.

[@Faliat]

As a Cass main for 5 years, they only need to do ONE thing to make him viable again. Take off the fall off damage or at least triple the range. Then he's a good counter to many heroes again. Including Sojourn who seriously needs one. Supports can self-heal now so why not?

[@dcv2009]

But then what is Ashe's role?

[@yaldythegrasshopper6293]

@@dcv2009 Halfway between Widow and Cassidy but with extra utility. However even with no changes right now I've actually had success playing as Cassidy recently by playing him as halfway between Reaper and Widow. So maybe adding some extra mobility along the lines of those two characters could make that a more viable new playstyle for him.

[@chiefinasmith]

They need to buff his damage drop off imo

[@srbflorin1804]

Not playing the high noon man but i was thinking the same thing. I noticed his pick rate dropped and everytime i encounter him he is SO killable up close. The flash bang was his ultimate f u button to cancel anything and the grenade is so pointless I think half of the cast can counter it with mere range or an ability

[@cornflake8294]

This is one of the most well-made and valid rant video

[@nekokoishi]

Imagine if the grenade thing was replaced with a quick mini ultimate where he does a quicker deadlock but can only do it on one target.

[@Klemen1x]

Maybe he targets on bodies instead of heads and deals damage. That's actually a good idea. I don't know who at blizzard decided to add bombs or stuns to a cowboy. If the Ability has like a 20 sec cooldown I would say its not broken at all.

[@nekokoishi]

@@Klemen1x tbh I kinda imagine somewhat like soldier's ult where if you aim above or at the head. It will hit the head instead of the body. If this will also be a one shot ability. It would be best to have it on high cooldown.

[@Jammy-James2]

Imagine Ana's sleep with damage instead

[@nekokoishi]

@@Jammy-James2 so basically his primary? XD

[@Jammy-James2]

@@nekokoishi yup

[@assasin8913]

Imagine if the ult was swapped to a red dead sort of thing. A dead eye ability that takes 3 seconds max, but anyone hit is down. If youre able to aim then good, but one missed shot cancels it.

[@Chipotle1318]

great video! I hope they bring back the flash one day T_T