Why Couldn't Japan Conquer China? | History of China 1937-1945 Documentary 6/10

[@kenleung7417]

The reason why Japan failed to conquer China is very simple ,the snake cannot swallow an elephant.

[@三十而立立不立]

是的，真理很简单的，人类不缺乏智慧，但总是欺骗自己。现在也是一样的，美国不愿意公平竞争，不愿意勤劳的工作，获取相等的回报，无论使用什么方法，都无法改变衰落，除非美国改变自己

[@Olav3D]

@@三十而立立不立 China is the country that has systematically stolen technologies and trademarks for decades, don't come here talking about fair trade lmao

[@Noctua8]

@@三十而立立不立 im not exactly a fan of the US but if you think china is any better youve been brainwashed. capitalism is bad but china is fascist, which is much worse. chinese citizens dont have the right to free speech and are barred from any information about the outside world. not only is it pathetic, its evil. north korea on steroids

[@awongabroad5520]

The rape of Nanjing is one of the worst crimes. They were not soldiers, they were civilians

[@jamieterrill]

But Japan makes better products and pop-culture than the rest of Asia. Therefore, none of the victims of imperial Japan's war-crimes deserve any apologies or reparations for the way the Imperial Japanese army treated them. Besides, China stole Japan's rightful place as the dominant economic power in Asia anyways.

[@awongabroad5520]

@@jamieterrill I really hope that’s sarcasm

[@jamieterrill]

@@awongabroad5520 It wasn't. I meant everything I said.

[@awongabroad5520]

@@jamieterrill what the fuck is wrong with ya

[@EvilSmonker]

@@jamieterrillthen why’d you delete the comment?

[@jeffma7507]

And people wonder why China-japan relations have always been rocky. Many Chinese people are still pissed about what imperial Japan did.

[@令喆孟]

血债需要血偿

[@davidchan3238]

​​@@令喆孟如果血债血偿是指像摩萨德一样刺杀/消灭所有侵华战争的发起者，主要参与者和当今日本仍然存在的军国主义者，我极其同意。但最怕的是你指的是法西斯行为，搞东京大屠杀，杀人比赛，化学武器。屠龙者终成恶龙。

[@papaldongzhuo3213]

many? most!

[@tamagomaniac]

Just like western people can’t never forgive the Nazis

[@QuantumentanglementAlpha]

Because of japanese sex maniac. That s how that japanese female end up as jav model.

[@SpaceMonkeyBoi]

Imagine getting lost after using the toilet just to find that your entire country used your disappearance as a reason to go to war.

[@LucidFL]

Another variation is that the soldier was at a brothel.

[@sto1238]

@@LucidFL that was the most likely reason. Young soldier got high on opium messing with hookers and didn’t show up

[@francozheng5617]

He certainly knew it in advance.

[@yixuanliu8368]

thats one fine excuse

[@blastpromotionz5866]

Am sure he got a medal from his General for the timely shit dump...that was used as a false flag op instead of the original false flag op plan...whatever it was. A missing soldier...that was found..was a better excuse. Note...u don't demand to go search across a border unless if u already planned and gathered a trained and armed manpower to backup your demand. Would love to see Japan try that move again! Bet Chinese gonna pull out a BruceLee JumpKick n stomp little Japan B4 they open their eyes from blinking😂

[@黑兔酱a]

China suffered huge casualties in WWII fighting against 2 million Japanese troops, the US only hit around 100,000 Japanese troops and got the biggest credit for 2 atomic bombs. In the international community, it is generally recognized that the United States and the Soviet Union defeated Japan, while China, which contributed the most and sacrificed the most, is forgotten. And many of the Japanese war criminals who killed and tortured Chinese got away with it, which is why China and Japan haven't completely reconciled like Germany and France, and why many Chinese still hate Japan. The reason is that the Japanese don't really apologize.

[@SH-uv5kv]

Casualties mean nothing. Without American aid, China would be easily swallowed by Japan. On the other hand, without China, US and the Soviet union could still conquer Japan.

[@支賤習]

Totally laughable. Most land in china is taken by Japan by the end of world war 2. And Japan acquired 2 million Chinese troop fighting for Japan. China just keep losing so badly and have negative contributions to the war. It is the American taking back lands one by one til taking Okinawa the japanese homeland. If it is not America Japan already conquered china. Talking about mixing history with lies lol

[@支賤習]

Yes lot of Chinese died. But winning the war is not about getting the most of your own ppl killed. War is won by losing less than your enemy while taking their territories. By taking the enemy's territories the war is won. In that aspect china has zero contributions perhaps negative contributions coz so many Chinese surrendered and working for Japan. Millions of Chinese troops are under Japanese command in Japanese conquered Chinese territories.

[@支賤習]

And china never apologized for invading Taiwan for hundred of years. Killing off Taiwanese and twist history even though the ming dynasty clearly stated Taiwan as a foreign country.

[@CharonTFM]

@@支賤習 US itself said it was thanks to China CPC holding back Japan, otherwise they wouldn’t have the opportunity to attack Japan. US was lucky their main Navy was away during the Pearl Harbour attack otherwise there will be no US nor China. US was also so displeased with Zhang Kaishek that they wanted to assassinate him due to his failures in pushing back Japan.

[@mingtangwu2716]

Japan learned from the Western industrial revolution earlier than China. While China was still in the agricultural civilization, Japan tried to invade and control China. This was a war with cannons, machine guns, swords and bows. Although the ending was tragic, However, the advanced Japanese military power failed in the end. There was only one chance, and China will never give Japan another chance in the future.

[@tvgerbil1984]

Ironically, it was the Russians who succeeded while the Japanese failed. The Russians managed to carve out vast swathes of Manchuria from China as Russian territories and it was with Russian military support that Mongolia managed to gain independence from China.

[@JiaruiChen_]

but russia failed eventually. China took half of mongolia and many Russians did die from the china virus​

[@haikalhadzik7744]

​@@tvgerbil1984 Fun fact: Mongolia wished to join the Soviet Union for decades but the USSR leadership keep refusing them not wanting to antagonize the Chinese leaderships.

[@Mglhro]

@@haikalhadzik7744 fun fact back in 1921 mongolian population was only around 600,000 however mongolians managed kick out 100,000 chinese troops and declared their independence

[@juanlu3958]

yep you are right mainland brainwashed commie Chinese.

[@strawberriesandcandy]

A history prof once told me “for a lot of the war China to Japan was like a bite of too-hot pizza. They couldn’t swallow it, but couldn’t bring themselves to spit it out either.”

[@aaaaaaaard9586]

​@上官竹喧 Manchurians were foreigners to chinese, and the CCP with marxist communism was very foreign to chinese. Manchurians killed chinese in vast number trying to take control of china, the CCP did the same during great leap forward + cultural revolution. Qing dynasty prohibited people living near sea to disconnect them from the outside world in fear of rebellion, and the CCP is doing the exactly the same with the great firewall. Qing dynasty was very aggresive imperialists and the CCP is the same. Rebellions and crackdowns kept taking place in Qing, also in PRC: Tibetan uprising and violent crackdown, East Turkestan independence movement and genocide, smaller scale but the same story with mongols, Tienanmen massacre in 1989, prosecution of Falun Gong in 2000s, zero covid protest and silent crackdowns happening right now. In so many ways the CCP resembles Qing dynasty, but I doubt it'll last 3 centuries, since Xi is going to be the last emperor of the CCP.

[@chomaning]

@@aaaaaaaard9586 LOL. What a load of crap. Manchurian is Chinese. There are a total of 56 ethnic groups in China and Manchurian is one of them.

[@carlc8930]

@@aaaaaaaard9586 You are talking nonsense !

[@davidliu2483]

@上官竹喧 Qing dynasty is China's history and there are nothing called foreign conquest because during the Ming dynasty, Manchuria already became part of China. The rebellion happened when Nurhaci was a subject of Ming. Of course, Japanese like you never understand, because JAPAN is never an multi-ethnic countries.

[@支賤習]

If it is not for America Japan already conquered china

[@richardhaw9757]

people largely forgot about the atrocities of the imperial japanese army...all they want and know now is anime.

[@rimanpele]

I think its pointless, these atrocities always happened and will keep happening in every war, from Alexander the great to Genghis Khan to the Vietnam war. Did any US soldier pay for Hiroshima or Nagasaki, or the bombardment of Dresden or Tokyo? No, throwing bombs or even nukes on civilians may not be war crimes if you're in the "right side". The winners always dictate history and in order to win, commiting atrocities may be beneficial. The only way to prevent it from happening is peace.

[@justsomedude6666]

If you look at all the outsourcing studios for Anime, majority of not all are outsourced and located in former occupied Imperial Japanese territories. :3

[@jamieterrill]

Does it really even matter how Japan treated the other Asian countries? They make better products and pop-culture than the rest of Asia. Therefore, not only are the Japanese too good to apologize or pay reparations for any of the war-crimes they committed against the rest of Asia, but none of the victims of the Japanese empire's atrocities deserve said apologies or reparations as well.

[@jamieterrill]

​ @justsomeguy6339 Only the really shitty anime is made in former imperial japanese occupied. In fact, that would explain why certain anime has become so poorly animated in recent decades. Really, non-Japanese asian countries can only do a half-decent job if they can get outsourcing from Japan.

[@xenilmh]

​@@jamieterrill if you ask me Japanese pop culture I shit their products are shit too

[@andychap6283]

The amount of work that goes into these videos is incredible

[@ReseCema]

Japan could not conquer China due to several reasons. Firstly, China had a much larger population and greater resources than Japan, making it difficult for Japan to fully occupy and control the country. Secondly, China had a highly motivated and determined resistance movement that utilized guerrilla warfare tactics, making it difficult for Japan to maintain control in the areas they did conquer. Thirdly, China's vast territory and difficult terrain made it challenging for Japan to successfully invade and control key areas. Additionally, Japan faced significant opposition from other world powers, including the United States, which imposed economic sanctions and ultimately entered the war against Japan. Japan also faced logistical challenges in supplying its troops, as much of China's infrastructure had been destroyed in the war. Overall, Japan's military campaign in China was ultimately unsuccessful due to a combination of strategic, logistical, and political factors.

[@toy315]

@Rese Cema At that time, China had 500 million people, and Japan had 100 million people excluding (Manchuria, Korea, Taiwan). Although China had 500 million people at that time, it was fragmented. Manchuria had defected to Japan, most of the eastern provinces were occupied, and Guangxi warlords were not controlled by ROC. If China had completed reunification at that time, Japan would have no chance. Japan was seizing the period of China's separatist revolution, and if it missed this opportunity, it would never lose the chance to conquer China

[@The_Art_of_AI_888]

It's funny so many ignorant people actually think the US was China's savior when the United States was the one selling weapons and resources to Japan which was a big help to the Japanese's aggression and invasion before turning against Axis powers seeing they were about to lose the World War.

[@medeliworld]

@@toy315 Actually the Manchus wanted to reunify China to continue the Qing dynasty. Had Japan won the war, the Manchus would still control China and eventually Japan would be absorbed by the Manchu controlled China just like how the Mongols and the Manchus were assimilated to become Chinese themselves.. Such is the trend in Chinese history.

[@mhow4967]

​@@medeliworld Agreed 💯

[@nikolaiyezhov5776]

These Chat GPT responses😑

[@Jesse_Dawg]

I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS SERIES. PLEASE, I NEED PARTS 7, 8, 9 AND 10. I have rewatched so many of the episodes in this series. This is without a doubt your best work. Please keep creating more and make sure to take breaks too

[@tayzonday]

What do you use to draw the maps/people?

[@tiago27272]

What

[@JabzyJoe]

I make all these on photoshop. With the maps I have the stock world map I keep using, then just find some maps online and resize them to fit. Then reduce opacity and draw over it. V. Similar for the people.

[@IronpenWorldbuilding]

@@JabzyJoe I thought the maps were made in wonderdraft. Looks similar to a theme in the map making tool

[@dariongutierrez4749]

Chocolate rain 🌧️

[@dsxa918]

Build a tent and say the world is dry

[@chemicalqueen5460]

The incident at Marco Polo Bridge was probably the start of WW2 given the scale of fighting and alliances formed during the period.

[@Tupadre97]

Nah Mussolini invasion of Ethiopia really started the war since that's what made Italy leave the league and create the axis with Germany and Japan.

[@1mol831]

@@Tupadre97 sounds reasonable. Let’s up this.

[@NeostormXLMAX]

@@Tupadre97 you can go earlier with the treaty of Versailles being a ticking time bomb

[@Nikolai....]

I blame the Serbs for starting WW1 that lead to WW2.

[@jamestonbellajo]

This is incredible even more so than the rest of your fantastic library. I always say that the Chinese front of the war gets forgotten once the Americans get involved.

[@Ace-mw9pm]

If America didn’t get involved I think China would be a Japanese territory.

[@scott-h8w]

Time to sit down, have a beer and enjoy another Jabzy video.

[@PaulRudd1941]

Ive had 5 personally

[@scott-h8w]

@@PaulRudd1941 take it easy mate

[@PaulRudd1941]

@@scott-h8w dOn T teLL mE wHaT t0 dø. 47

[@EchoVortex713]

And people say Mongols were sadistic brutal killers . If Japan conquered as much as the Mongols probably one third of the population would got annihilated. Mongols spared those who surrendered and they lived at better conditions than before .

[@phuhoang4549]

I think the Japs are just 20th century Mongols tho. Can’t see much different between the two, tbh

[@p00bix]

Cannot wait to watch the completed series in one sitting

[@Ninjaluga]

Chinese battles In ww2 have the casualties of entire campaigns in ww1

[@epicworldespanol8312]

Honestly best video about this topic I have ever see, the details, the explanations and the pictures and maps make it apealing and interesting at the same time, it is also a great way to comprehend this chaotic and horrible period of the history of China, hoping to see the conclusion of this series soon as well as the many more videos that would come to this channel. Greetings and most support from Spain.

[@Penguinyao]

hello, maybe the contribution of China in WW2 has always been neglected.if u find it meaningful , u can read some books~ and i have interest in the history of Spain too~

[@reneeday5348]

I ran into tears when I watched this video. I absolutely love it. Thank you for telling the truth and show other people the real history between Japan and China.

[@OrbitalAstronaut]

It’s here. It’s happening. The fire nation has finally attacked.

[@Game_Hero]

lol

[@concept5631]

China = Earth Japan = Fire Who is Air and Water?

[@axelNodvon2047]

@@concept5631Not relevant

[@OrbitalAstronaut]

@@concept5631 if you really want a comparison the Tibetans are the closest analog for the air nation. For the water tribes you could say islands like the Philippines or Indonesia could represent them. In reality there is not a perfect analog and ATLA is only loosely inspired by this time period and location. Fun fact the Dai Li in ALTA is based on the KMT spymaster who was also called Dai Li. Lake Laogai is based on the Laogai system of convict labor in China.

[@concept5631]

@@OrbitalAstronaut Ight ty

[@TheEmiljoergensen]

thanks a billion for an amazing series, keep it up. I feel very priviledged to be a subscriber of yours

[@TrickiVicBB71]

This is a great video. Indy Neidell's WW2 series hasn't touched on China campaign since the start of the war

[@blueberrybuttercake2942]

Japan at their peak couldn't even conquer China at their worst

[@GilesMcRiker]

What does that even mean?

[@zack2804]

@@GilesMcRiker It means Japan was weak.

[@Triple_Alliance]

@@zack2804fym

[@Tirana-qg1ft]

Lmao true

[@davidw.2791]

@@Tirana-qg1ftAnd yet they then thought they could destroy the USA thru Le Decisive Battle 😂

[@ShadowWizard123]

Answer: it's huge.

[@zhubajie6940]

One of your best! And one of the better summaries of the very difficult-to-explain Second Sino-Japanese War.

[@AY-dl1wc]

Back then when my grandma was still alive, every time she talked about Japanese she would be full of hate and anger. She told me when she was a kid the Japanese army invaded their village and some females were caught, raped and slaughtered. As a little girl she and some other people hid in the mountain, when the solders left she back home and found the rice in the storage pot was gone, instead, some crazy Japanese left a pile of shit in the pot as a gift.

[@cleve21ful]

So basically: - China was still in the midst of a civil war for more than a decade when the Japanese invaded. - The two parties in China fought less frequently but not fully united fighting against Japan. - The KMT, led by Cheng Kai Shiek came into power through assassinating favorite leaders to take over the KMT party after Sun Yat Sen's Death. - Cheng and his wife was super good in getting aid from the US, but most of the money went into their own personal pockets and bought a whole block properties in New York. - Mao Zedong was actually part of the original founder of the KMT party!!! - Because Cheng was so corrupted, massacred civilians, and ignored the nation's concerns, the people started supporting the Communist. USA was the same, knowing that Cheng wasn't a good guy still supported him, because they hated anything communism, which still holds true to today's government. - Japan massacred millions of civilians, including babies. They then abandoned Japanese kids in China after they lost the war. The kids were adopted by the local Chinese people. - China with a disunited army were equipped with spoons and forks to fight a well equipped Japanese soldiers, including warplanes, tanks, and other advanced weapons - Despite all this, the Japanese still had some success in the Northeast China, but significantly failed the further they expanded to the southern territories after two years of invasion. - When the Japanese feel they have a strong army, they will start invading other countries, like they did twice to Korea and would've succeeded if China didn't help. They also invaded China twice, Russia once, and the rest of SEA. - But today, animes, mangas, and as a US ally/vassal, people are led to believe that they've changed even till today where their government is still led by direct descendants of war criminals who led the offensive invasion and massacre. -Okay....Good luck!

[@山龙-k5e]

you summed it up well

[@jacksonross5941]

it is very unfortunate how many people today think Chiang and his KMT were good just because they have blind hatred for Communism

[@hiimryan2388]

Cleve good summary. People on both sides of the argument on the legitimate party of China leaves out many of these details thank you

[@rickhouten1622]

In the end the communists benefited so maos strategy worked out

[@darthparallax5207]

Well to be blunt we dropped 2 Atom bombs on them. Science suggests at least some mutations should occur. We did not exactly trust them to change out of the goodness of their hearts. Just to be sure we stuck them in a radioactive microwave and set the heat to "The Sun." So yes, I do think the Japanese have changed. I think I saw one with three eyes one time.

[@foodparadise5792]

Not many analyses WWI and WWII in capitalism/imperialism perspective. Japan became imperialist after westernized in 1860s and adopted the western expansion model. UK and US were transferring technologies, supplying raw materials, oils to Japan prior the invasion of China.

[@ReizarfEgroeg]

Japan's attempt to conquer China was a daunting task, and ultimately unsuccessful due to a variety of reasons. One of the major factors was China's sheer size and population, which made it difficult for Japan to maintain control over the vast territory. Additionally, the Chinese had a strong sense of nationalism and were willing to fight fiercely to protect their homeland. Japan also faced challenges due to the harsh terrain, extreme weather conditions, and the guerrilla tactics employed by the Chinese resistance fighters. Moreover, Japan's military resources were stretched thin due to their ongoing battles in other parts of Asia and the Pacific. In the end, Japan's attempt to conquer China proved to be a costly and ultimately futile endeavor.

[@Crashed131963]

The US was going to destroy mainland Japan at some point. Japanese troops inside China were not going to fight on after their homeland surrendered and was occupied by the US.

[@Crashed131963]

@Rob The US navy had Japan blocked in and out. The US was not sharing almost defeated Japan with late comer Russia after 4 years of fighting. Plus Russia did not even have landing crafts?Navy to get onto Mainland Japan. Like German had none to cross the narrow English Channel.

[@alexlo7708]

The small who wanted to eat large. In early of the war, US lured Japan into war by pledge their logistic and fuel support to the Japanese had the war occurred. Finally Japan become a permanent state of US imperial as well as south Korea.

[@Crashed131963]

@@alexlo7708 Ask any South Korean if the regret the US kicking the North Korean invasion out of their country today. Do you know the miserable living standards of North Koreans ?

[@Huanghanyimin]

@@alexlo7708👍

[@5h0rgunn45]

@19:20 The Japanese eventually did capture Changsha on their fourth try during Operation Ichi-Go. You mention this later in the video at @34:55. Anyway, great video. I don't think I'd be able to summarise such a dense and complicated topic into a 39 minute video and still find time to talk about goings-on in Xinjiang, which is a whole world of dense and complicated topics unto itself.

[@mengwei980]

The Chinese ancients said ：人心不足蛇吞象 simply it means snake want to eat elephant Because of greed

[@unifieddynasty]

It's pretty insane when you think about soldiers using swords in World War II. It's like that story of the Polish hussars charging on horses when Poland was invaded.

[@danshakuimo]

Some Mongolian soldiers were still using their bows and arrows as well

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

Jack Churchill anyone?

[@polarvortex3294]

The French still used small catapults in WW1, to launch grenades.

[@auguststorm2037]

China lacked weapons during WWII. However those swords - Dao Dao were particularly effective during nights raids on Japanese positions

[@Tirana-qg1ft]

Only have bolt action rifles, reload is long. Dadao is a good backup close quarters weapon.

[@Z_Y89]

The whole Asia and Southeast Asia, islands were pretty much invaded/taken, and China was pretty much the only country that was still defending after 1943 in the region.

[@りんごT-i3t]

Yeah

[@jiasunzhang8001]

That's why Japan has so much fear when China raised, just image what will happened if the table had been turn around.

[@henryng7893]

I disagree, Chinese are much more civilized to commit such barbarism. It is not in our DNA to be bloodthirsty. Confucius taught us better than that.

[@johnyqu5745]

That’s not true. Chinese won’t do the same thing as previous Japanese, because the Chinese hate this behavior, but they don't become what they hate.

[@ReichLife]

@@henryng7893 Bruh, cope harder. 2nd Sino-Japanese war still pales when compared with internal Chinese Wars like Taiping Rebellion.

[@ReichLife]

@Mr Anderson You tell me. That time Mongols wiped out bulk of Central Asia out of petty revenge. More modern? That time in Cambodia when native lunatics wiped nearly a quarter of population. Plagues? Third plague pandemic started in China. Black Death also came from Asia. Slavery? It was nearly everywhere in Asia. China, India, etc. And it was slavery. Not even touching subject of serfs/peasants which were basically slaves with extra steps and were widespread in Asia as well.

[@江宁路牛奶棚]

日本自己提高的比例更高。

[@chizhang4369]

Such is my opinion: When you try to conquer a nation you either literally conquer every inch of its land or you force its government to surrender and officially end it. China is too large for Japan to literally conquer every inch of it. And whatever you may say about Jiang Jieshi, he never surrendered to Japan, which force Japan has to keep on fighting. And communists within Japanese occupied area ensured that resistance will not died down. So yeah that’s why China cannot be conquered

[@shaebrown2872]

Couldn’t

[@twizz2955]

Best comment here. Chiang Kaishek never surrendered to Japan, western chinese islamic warlords remained loyal to Chiang and still supported the KMT against Japan, sending more western chinese troops to central china, then in the east, volunteer chinese forces practiced sabotage against Japanese forces. A united China, west, east, south, north and central of the country, and civilian chinese and military chinese alike, purely united in defeating the Japanese, who came with tanks and planes that the Chinese nation did not have at the time.

[@timoc5880]

@@twizz2955China had tanks and plane just on much fewer number and of inferior quality compared to the Japanese one.

[@Gmlscf]

老蒋确实是坚定的不投降派

[@Kabutoes]

34:40 Chiang was not able to take his elite troops from Burma which he should have been in Southern China. The UN/United States and Britain demanded Chiang “play his part” in the “international effort” against the Japanese by saving the European colony in Burma (to appease Britain). Chiang demanded Stilwell to send those troops but was not allowed. So the inexperienced distrustful troops ended up getting slaughtered in southern China. When Stilwell visited Guilin airfield, he realized his mistake but still blamed Chiang despite the fact it was US Mis judgement of Chinese desperation to defend their own country. One of the greatest last stands in ww2 came from Ichi-go, in the 44 day seige of hengyang where the Japanese were impressed by the Chinese defenders.

[@NeostormXLMAX]

exactly, the amerimutts has always been backstabbing left and right, chaing was right to never like the amerimutts, in fact he preferred to work with the germany army,

[@tvgerbil1984]

From mid 1941 to the end of WW2, the borders between the Soviet Union and China were closed off and no Allied supply could get through to China that way because the Soviets had a pact with the Japanese. With the coastal regions also under Japanese control, the only route Allied supplies and weapons could be delivered to China was through British Burma. That was why it was so critical for China and the other Allied powers to keep the Japanese away from Burma. If the Japanese managed to block off this route as well, China would be completely isolated. Chinese forces without Allied supplies and support would be unlikely to hold central China.

[@Huben57]

@@NeostormXLMAX exactly, the brits and amerimutts are all rotten to the core, backstabbers, cowards and liars. the british laughed at us until they cried to us to save them. and now those cowards still have the audacity to laugh at us.

[@Huben57]

yes, the japanese feared the nationalist elite units the most. thats why they always had to use large numbers of their soldiers to attack them. such as battle of hengyang, battle of changde, and a sub -battle in the second battle of changsha. The battle of Chunhuashan, where the japanese sent their elite 3rd, 6th and part of the 4th divisions to try to annihilate the Chinese 74th army. But only for both sides to suffer huge casualties. If only our leader who was lead poisoned by the americans saved our elite german trained units in the battle of shanghai, instead of having them heroically fight to the death.

[@fargr5926]

@@tvgerbil1984 The hump was the main source of logistic supporting during the period of 1942~1945, but its capacity only became significant until Oct 1944. The supply was mostly controlled by Stillwell before he went away and mainly purposed for US air forces in China. No heavy vehicles or equipment could be shipped in. After USA moved away from Operation Matterhorn in March 1945, finally started to focus on supplying the Chinese army, the war was near to the end. British presence in Burma was mainly for protecting its base in Bangladesh for counter-attack later in 1944, not for China. Over the whole time, US support played a insignificant role, due to the fact that China was on the remote end of US communication.

[@alehaim]

Some notes from me: You mentioned after the describing the battle of Changsha and how the Japanese never conquered it, which is incorrect as it fell to Japan in 1944 with the Ichi-Go offensive. An additional thing I feel should have been mentioned was how the Japanese in total attacked Changsha four times. First in 1939 with the initial failed offensive, a second offensive between september and october in 1941, a third spoiling offensive between december 1941 and January 1942 in order to stop the Chinese from reinforcing the British in Hong Kong, and finally the fourth attack in 1944 in which the city finally fell. Regarding the Ichi-Go offensive, it wasn't exactly that Chiang didn't expect an offensive on the main front, but more of him expecting it to come from the south and not the main front, if this video by Potential History on the matter is correct: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmXddWefqLpgmdU (Alternatively it could have been mentioned on this video as well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q16keoKKftd8Z9k). As such not only did the KMT have its best forces spread out in Xinjiang and Burma, additionally the Chinese forces left to defend the main Hunan front were instead initially prepared for an offensive from a different direction. Regarding Joseph Stillwell, he was basically the wrong person for the China front, with him sowing distrust of the Chinese towards the US, he almost caused some of the best Chinese troops in Burma to be destroyed under his command and he even wanted to coup the Chiang and turn China to an US puppet, before his dismissal, as told in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inOxi6R5aM2Sj5Y. In short Stillwell was a good army driller who was good at drilling the troops and training them basically, but he sucked as much as one could while leading troops in combat and basically everything that he was assigned to do. In the end the Chinese would only really begin enjoying more success once Stillwell was replaced by the much more fit for the role Wedemeyer. Connecting to Wedemeyer, and the late war Chinese counter offensives, this US army history paper describing said late war offensives: history.army.mil/html/books/072/72-39/CMH_Pub_72-39.pdf. Now to summarise the things told in this paper; following the appointment of Wedemeyer to leading the US mission in China, an ALPHA force planned to encompass began to be trained, which would constist of 36 US trained and advised divisions, which was a compromise owing to Chiang's fear that the communists would attempt to convert the troops in the inevitable civil war. These troops began to be trained under the supervision of Wedemeyer and thanks to his efforts in building up positive relations with the Chinese, he succeeded in having all of the Chinese troops of the ALPHA force being placed under US guidance, with all Chinese officers who refused to follow American instructions/guidance ending up getting replaced. As these forces were training in south western China, Ichi-Go was launched and the ALPHA force was in no way ready, due to which Wedemeyer relied on Chenault's 14th airforce to bomb Japanese supply lines in order to buy time for training and supplying the ALPHA force, combined with the Burma offensive and completion of the Ledo/Stillwell road promising expanded supply shipments from India. Thanks to the disruption efforts the Chenaults fourteenth airforce, the Japanese attack on western Hunan which you mentioned already struggling from disrupted supply. Meanwhile the Chinese troops of the ALPHA force had thanks to Wedemeyer's efforts become much better supplied with reliable food and ammo supply, in addition to an improved supply situation allowing for continued operations of the fourteenth airforce and better radio integration making communication more efficient than before. The Japanese attacked western Hunan near the Chihchiang airfield in January 1945, where the Chinese forces lacking the full training due to time constraints from the Japanese offensive were forced to face the Japanese attacking force. Following a counteroffensive plan being approved by Chiang, the battle became a masterpiece of Chinese defensive strategy, where the Japanese force attacked the force in the center, while the flanking armies moved behind the Japanese force to strike its rear and supplies, forcing the Japanese to eventually retreat due to their supply lines being compromised by the flanking enemy divisions and being under attack from all sides. Following this stunning success, operation Carbonado to liberate southern China was conceived where the Chinese forced spearheaded by the ALPHA force would push first the former French consession of Fort Bayard (modern day Zhanjiang) through which further supplies could be shipped through the recently liberated Philippines, followed by furhter offensives northwards, while simultaneously the Japanese were retreating already all the way to the Yangtze due to a worsening situation. I hope you are able to make a truly in depth explanation of how the Communists won the Chinese civil war in the next episode, as all the videos on it seem to describe how there was combat in Manchuria, followed by a rapid Communist push south that broke the Nationalists. I truly need a good explanation of how the communists won in China, that brings all the aspects together beautifully, and I am hoping that you can provide that.

[@VeggieRice]

kick rocks, bud. you just watched a 40min video so you could "well akshully" a bunch of Wikipedia paragraphs. make your own video & link it, or go whine on Reddit.

[@China_Secret_Police]

Remember.... The CCP never had, and never will have control of Taiwan.

[@frosticle6409]

Put simply, ROC was exhausted by the war, the Soviets set up Manchuria for the communists, and USA did not give the ROC more support fast enough. Nuances I’m not super well versed in.

[@penggoh9934]

Thank you for your input. This is something I don’t get from school history text books .

[@China_Secret_Police]

@Clem Fandango Watch the epithets, buddy

[@korakys]

This series just keeps getting longer! Now I'm not so sure it wont just continue up to 2019!

[@Game_Hero]

up to 2019????? What???? It'll be so long it will loop back to the past, what an accomplishment!

[@davidcunningham2074]

A really excellent video that comprehensibly covers very complex story of the Japanese invasion of China

[@vscppvscpp9001]

When China was encircled, the road to Burma was actually built in 7 months by hand and primitive tools instead of 7 years estimated by many western allies.

[@sll6773]

感谢博主讲述那段沉痛的历史❤

[@Jesse_Dawg]

Please keep making more in this series. Please make more parts

[@Game_Hero]

Stepping right into the time period of Tintin and the Blue Lotus, amazing graphic novel.

[@joshreichardt2485]

"Never start a land war in Asia"

[@jackpackage8550]

Civilization 4

[@tesserae-c2y]

Awesome video! Can't wait for the next episode.

[@Wbliss]

This historical account is unfortunate between these two countries before & after ww2 , but what should be the direction in the future relationship between the two nations, is far more important for obvious reasons. If Japan proceeds to its constitutional changes without the consent of its populace for a military buildup, than China would proceed to annihilate that country in the event of hostilities, there will be no total recall of ww2 this time around.China would make sure that won’t happen despite of US backing.

[@kooklockklan1974]

This time around, I’ll make sure that the people of the Japanese islands would all speak mandarin. Japan will be just another province. I’ll make sure of it.

[@TheWhiskyDelta]

So one of the main aspects of the war with china that is overlooked is the chaos of japanese politicis. In 1912 when emperor Meji died, his son was intellectually disabled leaving a massive power vacuum. While the military mainly aimed to fill this they were heavily split not only between Navy vs Army, but even within their was immense and intense factionalism. The functional result is that from 1912 all the way until 1940 when the imperial family made a serious effort to recentralize control, the Japanese leadership was insanely divided and in constant disputes and competition. The majority of military operations throughout this time were not deliberately planned long term invasions, but mostly small segmented decisions made by specific factions, with high command trying to do what they could with whatever landed in their lap. For example when the radical faction failed to gain power in HQ, the leader instead got himself posted to one of the field armies on the mainland (this may have either been a consolation prize, or an effort to keep him away from Tokyo). He then conspired with the other field army on the continent to launch the invasion of Manchuria. Since this was always his aim he figured if he can't take Tokyo he would just invade china anyway. Documents found that HQ was furious, but the operations success largely blocked them from taking major action against the generals. What becomes most significant however is that by 1939 the relationship between high command and field generals was at a tipping point. So many officers kept taking action without orders, that ultimatly HQ ordered that new operations would no longer recieve support. At Kolkhan gol for example Japanese intel discovered the soviet plans, but were forbidden from providing it to the army group, essentially leaving them to be surrounded and destroyed. Along with similar actions in china, high command finally reigned in the generals, but they were left in an awkward spot; the military failures weakened the armies political position allowing the navy to gain dominance and worse they feared losing control in china again if they overinvested into the army there. This resulted in the pacific plan; instead of reinforcing the army in China proper focus on disrupting their supplies. They started with the invasion of French Indochina, but this would lead to the US cutting off oil supplies and ultimatly pearl harbor. Put in other words from late 1939 Japan largely avoided trying to directly win on the battlefield in china, sending few reinforcements and conducting very little offensive operations until 44 and that only to connect with Burma/Indochina. At peak China only had around 1/6th of the Japanese military forces.

[@huabinsitu6459]

To be fair, the communist have been fighting guerilla war and have a large influence behind Japanese lines. However, with a small army and almost no industrial base for arms manufacturing and little artillery, they couldn't mount any real offensive.

[@3a146]

对, 战史丛书里面有华北治安站.

[@عليياسر-ذ5ب]

​@@3a146 You mean the barbarian kingdoms

[@3a146]

@@عليياسر-ذ5ب maybe you can ask chatgpt for what I mean

[@汝爱花否]

因为中国的军队由国民党掌控

[@yankev0u]

Smart move not to mount any real offensive, this was under the instruction of the Great Chairman Mao : 70% self development, 20% deal with KMT, 10% fight the Japanese. The master plan turned out perfectly after the Janpanese's defeat.

[@taWay21]

Jabzy never misses!

[@nanningbear]

Japan is a small island country, sort of like England. But unlike England in the 1930s, Japan had no colonies to provide itself with war materials. The Japan in the 1930s wanted to conquer China, would be similar to that England before its industry revolution wanted to conquer Europe

[@WagesOfDestruction]

During World War II, General Joseph Stilwell's performance was often criticized by his superiors Many military historians and analysts have since assessed his command abilities and found them lacking. Stilwell's leadership is now widely viewed as ineffective and inadequate.

[@user-pn3im5sm7k]

Obviously. I doubt this would have changed if you put another US officer from WWII in charge of the Chinese. What I have in common with US leadership at the time is our view of the Chinese. We don't see them as equals. This was an alliance of convenience, America's global empire was only threatened by Japan, not China at the time, thus we helped the Chinese.

[@WagesOfDestruction]

@@user-pn3im5sm7k Probably but using this general as a fair observer as this video makes out, is wrong. A decent video on this question is here kzbin.info/www/bejne/inOxi6R5aM2Sj5Y

[@user-pn3im5sm7k]

@@WagesOfDestruction Interesting. Thanks for the video. Stilwell may be a runner up for the worst general along with MacArthur. MacArthur is incredibly overrated and was in command of the worst defeat in US military history.

[@WagesOfDestruction]

@@user-pn3im5sm7k actually, many feel that MacArthur was one of US's most brilliant generals.

[@user-pn3im5sm7k]

@@WagesOfDestruction Indeed, my point is he is quite overrated. Look into the fall of Philippines to know more. Far from a brilliant tactician.

[@seventian6117]

Japan never had any chance, they were popped up by Anglos as an offshore balancer to Russia and China.

[@Charlie0l9]

Its always funny when some Russian or Arab tries to claim that America lied or exaggerated about Japanese war crimes to justify nuking Japan, then gets mobbed by a horde of angry chinese comments.

[@عليياسر-ذ5ب]

America, no, you idiot. The bombing of nuclear bombs was only to warn the Soviets

[@Charlie0l9]

@@عليياسر-ذ5ب And it also got the Japanese to surrender early. Don’t really care about the rest.

[@عليياسر-ذ5ب]

@@Charlie0l9 America, not Japan, was surrendering, but I saw the Soviets advancing, so I dropped nuclear bombs to warn the Soviets.

[@Charlie0l9]

@@عليياسر-ذ5ب of course it’s the guy with the Arabic name making stupid comments like this. Very well, let me spell it out very slowly just for you. The daily life for the people living under Imperial Japan’s occupied territories in China and Southeast Asia is a living hell. There’s a shortage of everything from food, water and medicine. On top of that, we also have the occupying IJA walking around venting their anger and frustration out on the local populace if we are very very lucky. If we are not, it’s the Kempatai, who are literally devils in human skin. Every day is a gamble with death, and a close brush with death, another Nanking or Sook Ching massacre waiting to happen because there’s no telling when the Japanese will decide the locals need to be reminded of their place beneath their boots, usually with fatal results for anyone they catch. So yes, if nuking Japan and killing thousands of Japanese civilians means we get to be liberated from their brutality earlier, so be it, better them than us. That is why, we don’t really care about the rest of the politics and details behind the bombing. Get it now, Arab? Did you even watch the video?

[@عليياسر-ذ5ب]

@@Charlie0l9 The CIA is the one who said this, not me

[@carterf7025]

my favorite part was when chiang said "it's chiang kai-sheking time" and proceeded to create the united front

[@danshakuimo]

Which is ironic since he didn't even want to do that (and probably regretted having to do so later after he ended up losing)

[@masijack5113]

2:25 Imagine becoming the flashpoint just because you got lost while going out to take a shit

[@shencheanglow3726]

Chinese always remember the July 7 incident of 1937. The invader carried out war game at the border, then they claimed one of their man was kidnapped and wanted China to let them in to search. The request was denied and the attack begin. War game at your gate is always an excuse for aggression. Chinese remember that. Uncle Sam.

[@manwell235]

This reminds me of Uncle Sam and the Gulf of Tonkin.l incident. The 2nd attack of US ships never happened but the US government used it as pretense to enter the war.

[@PaganMin-1966]

Imagine those people during WW2, so much sufferings and hardships, its really hard to survive

[@TSUTENKAKU007]

That's because Japan was only able to mainly control the major cities by the coastal areas; however, Japan was not able to control the country side mainly because of lack of sufficient manpower and eventually the guerilla forces will defeat Japanese forces, it was the same thing in the Philippines.

[@scott2452]

A good overview of a very complex subject…would it be possible to get a list of sources though? (Particularly for the quotes)

[@PaprTape]

Westerners telling Asian history is like Westerners making Asian cuisines. Some might get it right, but for some weird reason, most people add some weird personal twists and flavors that changes the dish. It might look similar, but it certainly isn't the taste we're all familiar with.

[@QWERTY-gp8fd]

west is definitely better. like dude when its easier to smoke weed in mongolia u are f,u,cked up.

[@sarven5974]

You missed that they signed the non aggression pact with the USSR after a very costly defeat in a minor border war with them

[@auguststorm2037]

26:05 .The non aggression pact was signed at the beginning of 1941

[@CrocodileWhispers]

Did u talk about John Rabbe? or did I miss it? That german saved a bunch of chinese and got a honorary burial in Nanking

[@petersiep]

An interesting listen as always! good shit

[@fannewman4916]

看这个地图，就能感受到中国是多么的危险和困难，抗战胜利是多么的难能可贵。

[@baoxidiaoyu]

If it took the Khans generations, why wouldn't an outside island group take longer?

[@Jake-dh9qk]

Dang its easy to forget it took Mongols 60 years to fully conquer China

[@gagamba9198]

@@Jake-dh9qk And about 75 years for the Manchus to do so. The Seven Great Hatreds were composed and declared in 1618. Battle of Fushun was the same year. Taiwan, the last holdout of the Ming, fell in 1683. Whatever remnants there were evaded the Manchus fled to Vietnam. One could claim that it began earlier with Nurhaci's war against the other Manchu groups favoured and promoted by Ming. They battled from 1582 to 1587. Whether 100 years or 75 , the Manchus certainly were tenacious.

[@user-qwertyuiopasdfghj]

Never again those northern slanted bastards

[@Huben57]

@@gagamba9198 The Manchus only won by using deception again, just like what the jurchens did. tricking the emperor into killing Yuan Chonghuan, just like how the jurchens tricked the Song into killing Yue Fei.

[@massalleh5255]

​@@gagamba9198 Are there still manchus in China?

[@bigdoggy3031]

China would have won easily if they used 7-2 templates with support engineer and anti-air. Also shame that they didnt guard naval base:(

[@3a146]

又一个P社战犯

[@bigdoggy3031]

@@3a146 人人皆校长

[@Song-TheNiceGuy]

They can't. Japan back then had the strongest navy power in the world. Chinese navy back then was just wooden ships with small cannons. The Chinese couldn't hold onto their naval bases because we were at least 80 years behind the industrial revolution processes at the time.

[@bigdoggy3031]

@@Song-TheNiceGuy i personally think its difference in the focus trees. They shouldve given more navy buffs in waking the tiger dlc

[@auguststorm2037]

In this "real life" mod. For some reasons China couldn't produce its own artillery, tanks or planes so it had to rely on other countries equipment

[@MenEnhanced]

Really helping with my A level exams, please finish off the series

[@jdkessey]

Keep up the good work man.

[@papabear90]

When I see Chinese history during the century of humiliation, I can't help but think how pissed I'd be if I were Chinese.

[@henryng7893]

Over a billion Chinese are pissed right now, it's been over 150 years but it seems like it just happened yesterday. As an analogy, pretend Columbia and the US goes to war over crack cocaine and US loses, as war reparation Uncle Sam has to give up Miami, San Francisco etc. for couple hundred years to Columbia. Can you imagine the hate, the humiliation, Americans must feel? 😢

[@commie5211]

Yep, that is why they can not get over the Taiwan issue, due to it was taken by the Japanese, still not returned. 😂😂😂

[@hiyukelavie2396]

​@@henryng7893 It's just propaganda to rile up Chinese nationalistic sentiments The 2nd Opium War was actually just a minor incident, compared to what was actually going on China was actually at the same time dealing with the Taiping Rebellion, the bloodiest civil war in human history The so called "century of humiliation" is actually a concept created and propagated by the Chinese government, because it allows them to appear as heroes who "ended" this so called "century of humiliation"

[@hiyukelavie2396]

​@@henryng7893 ​​Look at this this way -China fought a war with Britain and France -which were two of the most powerful nations at the time -while simultaneously fighting an extremely devastating civil war -which would end up claiming 20-30 million lives And the only territory that China lost is a tiny, miniscule patch of jungle near Hong Kong which was a backwater at the time? I mean, how is that a humiliation? It's a win all things considered But no, the Chinese government wants you to think that China suffered some kind of great humiliation So that they can appear to be the saviours who lifted China out of this so called "century of humiliation"

[@exu7325]

Now you get it. I always find it funny when Western MSM portrays the current government in China as hawkish and nationalist. The current leaders of the CPC are the moderate doves, by far.

[@robertlam2000]

What were some of the sources you used for research?

[@MenRot]

They had awful defuff to attack and defense in China.

[@yunongli2872]

spotted the hoi4 player

[@jmalko9152]

Informative, thank you 🙂

[@nightwatchman4723]

This is the final telegram of the Chinese defending troop during the battle of Changde: “Ammunition depleted, backups gone, fighting troops are exterminated, the city limit is breached. I, the commander of 74th division, along with deputy commander, commissar, and chief of staff, shall defend the stronghold of Central Bank. All surviving regiment commanders are each assigned a room to defend. We shall resist until our death, and wish the final victory for our nation. Long live 74th division, long live Generalissimo Chiang, and long live the Republic of China!” That’s why China had never been, and will never be conquered.

[@twizz2955]

The same thing was said by Yang Jingyu of the volunteers army and Xie Jinyuan defending KMT positions in Shanghai

[@BruhTNT4258]

China in history has only been conquered by Mongolia, and China.

[@ThePanosassasin]

mongosl conquered china

[@bingliu-china]

那是因为蒙古没有大规模屠杀奸杀平民老人小孩。蒙古也在后边的融合中被汉人所融合了。

[@ElBandito]

Well researched!

[@silentwatcher1455]

Japan doesn't have enough soldiers to fight China.

[@TheWorkersNewspaper]

The parallels between the Second Sino-Japanese War and the Eastern Front of WW1 is amazing. The Russians never pushed back the Kaiser’s Army back to Germany either.

[@rocknrollkid90]

Hiroshima was hit first, before Nagasaki.

[@JabzyJoe]

That was a dumb mistake

[@lurven141]

Imagine trying to conquer a country like USA where more or less every civilian has a gun. Imagine the horror for the invading soldiers to try maintain occupation and keep the resistance challenge under control. Also, Japan holding on to China where the population more or less learnt martial arts to beat the soldiers in resistance. We have all seen IP man x)

[@ace74909]

And taking months to take over a city where everybody was still using spears

[@mhow4967]

No wonder most of the ASEAN countries hate Japanese past.

[@麻吉-h5b]

Because Japan literally invalid ever country in Asia

[@exu7325]

Past? I hate Japanese still.

[@mhow4967]

@@麻吉-h5b “ invaded every" Except India

[@ItsHonski]

@@mhow4967 they invaded burma which was under administration by the British Raj at the time

[@louisdbs5699]

Love it when you say "year"

[@Huben57]

the battle of shanghai for 3 months had devastating consequences. if KMT headquarters and our leadership had made the right decision and saved our elite units to go fight the japanese in prewar built german fortifications away from the japanese naval guns, then the japanese would be held down for more months. and forced to take even more casualties among their elite divisions, weakening them greatly for future battles. this potentially could've avoided what happened in nanjing. and delay the japanese linking up north-south in xuzhou. which means the 3rd rate warlord units would have time to encircle and destroy the japanese elite 5th and 10th divisions at taierzhuang and 14th division at lanfeng unlike the original timeline. having more time would also mean there wouldn't have been a yellow river flood

[@jotarothedixieboo3435]

Unfortunately the elite kmt divisions had to continue fighting in shanghai for political reasons and not tactical reasons

[@no1xtz765]

Loving this! Thanks for producing this video and letting more people familiar with this particular period in history. Without a doubt, Japanese individuals from nowadays have nothing to do with this, but we Chinese will not have shed blood in vain. Japanese’ll repay the price eventually

[@MA1S0]

what a weird and fucked up comment

[@sirius1807]

getting manchuria and korea was already enough for japan empire - yet they want more

[@okayunekomata]

そもそも大陸進出自体が間違い

[@AlternityGM]

I don’t think Japan by itself could have conquered all of China but they did conquest Eastern China around the coastal areas & even the capital. The Chinese forces fought bravely but hampered by inept & corrupt military leaders and less technologically advanced than Japan. China has no real Air Force during WW2. Without US involvement in the war against Japan I’m not sure China could beat Japan entirely.

[@ex0duzz]

Russia would have cleaned up Japan either way like what happened in history. Japan can never conquer all of china

[@AoikeKara]

Japan did not anticipate such resistance and huge war expenditures before starting the war, which spurred them to attack Pearl Harbor. If they had not done so, they might not have been able to continue the war expenditure and thus decided to withdraw. Such statements were not politically correct in the Japanese government of the time (even later, when Japan was bombed with the atomic bomb, an officer tried to hijack the emperor to prevent him from deciding to surrender), but it is difficult to guess what would actually happen.

[@twizz2955]

Without US and Soviet aid, Japan still would've taken around 20 years to defeat China, and even then there would be martyrs fighting Japan to the last man.

[@emilianohermosilla3996]

Jabzy’s great!!

[@pafuuu]

What is the music in the background it is fitting the vibe very good

[@Historywithstickmen]

You made a mistake. Hiroshima was bombed first, not Nagasaki.

[@JabzyJoe]

Yeah that was a dumb one on my part

[@NeostormXLMAX]

im so glad that you explained wang jin wei's poltical shift so well, so many people ether think he was an idiot or just an japanese puppet or just a traitor. ultimately he thought that china would have been better of or all asians in general if they just collaborated with japan and pushed all european powers off from asia,

[@grapeshot]

Because China is a very large landmass. And occupying such a large landmass can be quite costly.

[@just_dmitri3192]

Watch the video first, damn 💀

[@grapeshot]

@@just_dmitri3192 don't have to I served in the military and I know that trying to conquer large land masses fail. Especially when you can eventually match the army that's trying to conquer with equal technology You see my finger it's my middle finger.

[@Godzilla00X]

When the Emperor of Japan at the time asked if China is causing problems for the army Why would they attack the USA one of the commanders said "you see...China is very large" lol Emperor hit back with "bigger than the Pacific?"

[@grapeshot]

@@Godzilla00X but they did not conquer China much like when the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union with three million soldiers the largest Invasion force in the history of warfare,eventually they were worn down and then they were pushed back all the way to Berlin.

[@brianlong2334]

@GRAPE SHOT Obviously not very good at understand more than your job as basic cannon fodder/ infantry... Sorry your understanding is exstreamly flawed and simple. The Japanese, like Germany, were defeated by multiple nation's it's very unlikely they wouldn't have succeeded in winning their wars eventually, had it not managed to join such a vast and large coalition against them selfs, but even in 1944 there was still opportunity that the Axis could have won or even fought the allies to a stand still, a small one but not impossible, luckily that didn't happen. The fact that you dismiss or don't know/ don't understand the majority of history is just so ignorant. Sorry, I was in the military also doesn't mean I didn't come across people bad at there job's, it was the first thing that shocked me, including the large amount of unfit personal / a large amount of people with the wrong mindset for war let alone being a soldier, yet they are Portrayed as this great effective fighting force that's better then the average person, yet they are majority the same as the average person unfortunately, some of the best personal out in the field/ fighting the war are often the worst at taking orders/ following them, marching around like a good show off ect. A lot of great personal in war time are shuned from the military in peace time's/ not full scale war. The military is unfortunately the same as most jobs, you have people who are great at it, and people who shouldn't be involved in it. The military is also in terms of fitness, like the guy at the gym who worked out hard, but doesn't do it correctly that's also why so many personal have injuries due to things not done properly, and command response is normally yeah but that simulates real war conditions or it didn't happen.... lol An army of arthritic 20 year olds is a great fighting force... at least in the short term, right because they can be replaced once they die or become unusable to the military.

[@TheArmouredOne]

Good but it is important to point out whilst the KMT did the majority of the resistance, the value and importance of the eighth route army cannot be passed over in single lines and phrases.

[@joshuahoffman1458]

Video suggestion: What were Napoleon's goals for Europe?

[@tcheung4936]

During World War II, Japan basically achieved primary school education, and the world entered a civilized period. Massacres of civilians and torture of prisoners were only done by Japan on the world battlefield. For example, Japan used poisonous gas, bacterial weapons and other inferior methods against China and other Asian countries when it had superior force. However, Japan did not use it against the Soviet Union, the United States, and the United Kingdom. It knew that others would retaliate. This is an extremely twisted psychology. Japan is not a respectable opponent. Asian countries are deeply aware of Japan's crimes, and Japan is also deeply aware of its own crimes but not been paid off badly...

[@Mestrecker]

The bloodiest war in history happened... ...because a guy got late while using a toilet

[@michaelcao5883]

Say what you will about Mao, the choice to the Chinese people then was clear. Chiang's regime was built upon the support of land and business owners who have exploited the peasantry for centuries. KMT's New Life Movement and the White Terror were glorified fascist purges. Communism offered the peasantry the only way towards a better future than enslavement. Mao winning in China was a historical inevitability shaped by centuries of Qing & Colonial repression. The misguided and overzealous tragedies that happened after the winning civil war were also inevitable overcorrections against colonialism and capitalism. That's the thing about history - it's always more complex than we think.

[@fargr5926]

All bu***t, Mao was the winner mostly because USA gave up on Chiang due to George Kennan's miscalculation that "China isn't important" and the neighboring USSR provided strong support.

[@michaelcao5883]

Sure if the US were to intervene hard in favor of KMT that could've changed the war, but how is that a plausible scenario? Would Stalin have allowed the USA to play in their neighborhood in 1946? It would have become a proxy war. One that the western allies are unlikely to stomach due to incredible war weariness. KMT started with significant material advantages over the communists. They proceeded to throw that lead through incompetence (which the US has witnessed throughout WW2), corruption, and lack of popular support. The countryside belonged to the communists, they could see KMT's every move, sabotage their facilities, ambush supply lines. KMT-held cities often switched loyalties, because they were only a loose coalition of warlords to begin with. With China in that state, as USA, do you really think KMT can win a proxy war against USSR-backed communists? One side is connected by rail, the other is across the Atlantic. Was it worth the cost then? at 1946?

[@jordyj4126]

@@fargr5926 nah mate u are brainawashed🤣 so sad.

[@fargr5926]

@@michaelcao5883 USA had absolute power back then, if they wanted, they could totally beat up USSR. 50% of GDP of the whole world, and the only holder of nukes. Just go to check how much material USA provided to USSR during WW2, and how they provided the material, it's not a problem to provide same material in similar manners. Part of material Stalin provided to CCP was directly from the USA supply. Stalin was watching closely at USA's response before he took further actions. And the argument didn't start from 1946, when Marshall mediated in China and forced Chiang to make a couple key concessions, the starting point that USA decided to give up China was Yalta Conference; without USA let-go, USSR wouldn't dare to get in Manchuria. USA had its reasons to give up China, Korea and even Taiwan, until suddenly the war of Korea burst. The reason wasn't due to how smart they were, rather due to how selfish they were. Not

[@michaelcao5883]

​ @Farm Ground Absolutely in terms of materiel, nuclear power, naval and air dominance, etc. Although most of these assets would only be employed to their full degree in times of total war. I'd argue that, given the moral and political implications then, the US was not willing to go back into total war state against two former allies right after winning WWII. Not because they were selfish either... we having the benefit of hindsight could see the folly of the cultural revolution/great leap forward under Mao. FDR/Truman could not. Half the world at the time supported communism as their ideology. Having just gone to World War for democracy, peace, and self-determination, how can they turn around and immediately side with an unpopular government in a major ally? To say it was a selfish decision would sell short the immense calculus of human lives at stake.

[@tasty5716]

It's interesting to listen to an English explanation of modern china history

[@edwin1justforfun285]

Hey where do you get your sources?

[@kitrichardson2165]

All of this is the backdrop for the current political stage in the world. It’s very important to understand this and this is the best, most concise version that I’ve seen anywhere. It helped clear up some misunderstandings in my parts, such as the believe that Chiang Kai Shek was a leader of a primarily democratic movement. Also, very interesting was to learn that Mao and the communist Chinese, while lambasting the KMT for not focusing on the Japanese, took less than 3% of the casualties in the war against Japan. Zhou En Lai later, thanked the Japanese for making their takeover of China possible- which it probably did. This is a completely inhuman perspective, but for a government that later went on to kill tens, of millions of their own citizens, the death of countless people is apparently a small price to pay for whatever your goals are. Also, I’d never heard of unit 731 before and the grotesque savagery and inhumanity of the Japanese imperial forces. Most of what I had familiar rarity with, were things like the Batan death march, and the death of allies in the Philippines, and in the road building that went on in Southeast Asia, but these were nothing compared to what happened in China. The rape of Nanjing is documented in the west, but very little of the rest of it. And much much more that have provided food for thought, but the short version is thank you. A great job. A lot of detail research went into this, and of course you could see much much more, but for people with jobs outside of academia, this was fantastic.

[@chozer1]

Well just look at taiwan today. all thanks to mr Kai

[@yucol5661]

That’s a very hard part of understanding history. Remembering that the people inside history had their own perspective of their past. That they heard news of other counties at the time, that they had memories of events in their own lifetime’s history.

[@joe1112007]

History is written by people, be careful of what you read or hear. What the author says here is his own belief, and might not be necessarily true. And he is not even Chinese.

[@joe1112007]

The author keeps talking about propaganda this propaganda that. The internet is the biggest propaganda invention. You can imagine who is the true propaganda master of internet.

[@tvgerbil1984]

Chiang's forces were the main resistance to the Japanese invasion. The Chinese Communists only played a very small part in comparison. Also, Chiang managed to string together substanial Allied effort to help China despite very difficult circumstances. It is very doubtful the Chinese Communists could manage that if they were in charge. The main backer of the Chinese Communists was the Soviet Union and yet it was the Soviets who formed a pact with the Japanese in April 1941. The Soviets not only withdrew all aid to China but actively closed borders to prevent Allied aid reaching China through Soviet territories. China was only able to receive aid from the US through the British India - Burma - Yunnan route and the difficult flights over the Hump.

[@scarletcrusade77]

Why did Japan share a land border with Chinese in Ya'an but never launch and offensive into it? Also why did they give up offensives into Mongolia/ western china after losing 1 battle?

[@7rashbag785]

mountains

[@justacommonman5935]

they had frequently attempted to charge towards xinjiang, but they were always stopped and annihilated by Ma qlique's light cavalry. Yan'an and Taiyuan were the communist and Shaanxi Qlique's last line of defense, if those two cities fell they would instantly be wiped out from the war... one could say they gave their all to protect their last line of defense as best they could, meanwhile Attacking Mongolia would only kill Japanese soldiers faster, why? because mongolia has 300 thousand soldiers who have been preparing and waiting for a long time if japan tries to attack them... not to mention the 3 million soviet troops on the border of Manchukuo have also been prepared for years to strike back at japan (I think adding 4 million trained enemy soldiers is not a bright idea dude)

[@curtiswong7280]

Yan'an was situated in a very mountainous province, which meant that the Japanese would've found it difficult to attack. Furthermore, the neighbouring provinces occupied by the Japanese experienced the height of communist guerilla efforts, which were largely situated in northern China - the IJA simply lacked the ability to move much in these provinces due to a hostile population.

[@scarletcrusade77]

@@justacommonman5935 Sorry if I didn't make it clear by I never meant why didn't they invade Mongolia proper i meant why after battle of west suiyuan did the IJA just stop proceeding out west to China? Its not like they couldn't have tried against with more motorized infantry or tanks right. Since they attacked Changsha many times after losing why just give up on that front? they in theory if they broke through could have made contact with Xinjiang and perhaps done a daring campaign to knock out the Ma Clique and stop supplied coming overland from the USSR.

[@scarletcrusade77]

@@curtiswong7280 I get the mountains part, which at the same time is a little odd since those same mountains would be the site of many chinese civil war battles so its curious how they can fight in them but IJA couldn't? Also IJA would go on to fight in Burma AND PNG which is Mountains + Jungle (literally the worst terrain to fight in) and win in many cases, how is it possible there where their supply lines are even less secure but Ya'an is impossible when they have the whole of northern china and rail line supplies? I get the partisan attacks but they largely could do both in theory, sorting out the partisans and offensive into Shannxi. i'm not saying you're outright wrong but the idea that IJA are just scared or logical thinking to not fight in horrible terrain and then at the same time in other theaters we seen fighting in horrendous conditions worse than Ya'an like the Kokoda track campaign and even getting success in areas, but then for some reason attacking Shannxi is literally a no no? Seems like there's something more to it.

[@codyshi4743]

Because of the soul of many patriotic, brave, and determined Chinese. There is a saying in China during the Second Sino Japanese War, “一寸山一寸血,"- An inch of a mountain is an inch of blood.

[@Game_Hero]

and mongols, manchus, yi and the like. Edit: this is trying to bring credit, name recognition and awareness to minority groups war effort, geez.

[@alexliu5806]

@@Game_Hero Mongols, Manchus, and Cantonese are all Chinese though? Not to mention "Cantonese" people are Han.

[@Game_Hero]

@@alexliu5806 Perhaps they want proper credit as the distinct minority nations/cultures they are? I give them that.

[@alvinlin8140]

@@Game_Herothe Cantonese people are Han

[@Game_Hero]

@@alvinlin8140 Cantonese (also called the Yue people) are who they want to be, and they have their own language, cuisine, cultural figures and the like. So a little respect toward their distincthood would surely be appreciated, especially in regard to assimilation attempts.