How did the Communists Take over China? | History of China 1945-1955 Documentary 7/10

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[@zainmudassir2964]

The Chinese Communist Revolution was one of most significant and consequential events in modern History.

[@Heike--]

An utter disaster for the Chinese people. Their standard of living was better under the Japanese. Let that sink in: a brutal conqueror whose policy was "Kill all, burn all, loot all" was actually *better* for the people than communism.

[@rttrttyan]

I agree. They were as important as the Nazis.

[@yuanyuan4714]

@@rttrttyan you’re brainwashed.

[@dalao2yang]

​@@rttrttyan Nazis are losers. Chinese comiis win the whole thing. No comparison.

[@zeflute4586]

@@rttrttyan Nazis were not that important TBH, they had little impact from ecnomical perspective. Yeah they launched a huge war and killed millions, but so did the Japanese.

[@the_ratmeister]

KMT try not to screw everything up for 5 seconds challenge (Impossible)

[@fargr5926]

You kidding. How could KMT screw up the situation? It couldn’t be worse any more, yet it kept on fighting until the end of ww2.

[@the_ratmeister]

@@fargr5926 To list a few: - Starting the civil war with the communists in the first place, and then letting them escape to Shaanxi - Yellow river flood (I don't need to say much more) - Abandoning Nanjing - Sitting on their asses in 1942-43 only to get curbstomped by the Japanese in 1944 (again) - Engaging in a conventional war with a guerilla army

[@cyborgchicken3502]

​@@the_ratmeister got to admit, I give props to Generalissimo Chiang Kai Shek for defeating the Warlords and uniting China, but man he was an arrogant idiot during ww2 and in the Chinese Civil War

[@the_ratmeister]

@@cyborgchicken3502 Except he didn't really defeat the warlords, the war showed that quite clearly. He got most of the warlords on a similar page, but they were still present.

[@scarletcrusade77]

@@cyborgchicken3502 He didn't defeat them he just strong-armed most into joining him and defeated only 1 -2 cliques. He should have been replaced as leaders in the early 30's

[@tomli9793]

The main force of the Kuomintang was wiped out in the Northeast and the North China Plain because of Chiang Kai shek's arrogance and the corruption of the army. When friendly forces were besieged, the Kuomintang generals chose not to rescue but to flee the battlefield to preserve their private army. This exposes that the national army is still a group composed of a group of warlords Thank you for 115 compliments. Glad everyone is so interested in China's civil war In addition, the failure of the Kuomintang was largely due to Chiang Kai shek's poor command. He always gave the wrong instructions at the wrong time to put his troops in a dangerous situation. He also appeared hesitant when it was necessary to make a decisive decision whether to withdraw or attack, which led to his loss of the main cities in the Northeast. On the other hand, the generals of the National Revolutionary Army are mostly composed of warlords who personally loyal to Chiang Kai shek during the period of melee warfare. These private armed forces, despite military assistance from various countries around the world, are equipped with advanced infantry equipment from various countries, even tanks and aircraft. However, the organizational form of these armies is still similar to the old feudal armies of the Qing Dynasty and the First Republic, and the sources of soldiers are very complex, ranging from forced omen farmers to rural bandits and hooligans, to students who participated in the revolution under the influence of Western democratic ideas and labor movements. The organization of the National Army is loose, and due to the corruption of the military, most of the time, these troops suffer from severe pay arrears. Soldiers can only rely on the supplies withheld by the military and sometimes rob local people for a living. Only the most elite Kuomintang troops can avoid these problems to some extent. And the Communist army had the same problems as other warlord forces in its early days. However, after Mao Zedong launched the "rectification movement" within the Communist Party, these issues were completely resolved. Western media summarized the movement as a dictatorial action by Mao Zedong to use his personal prestige to eliminate dissent, which was not comprehensive. This movement has completely revolutionized the Red Army in terms of organization and morale. They have established the Party organization at the company level and appointed political commissioners to each unit. Political commissioners are not the military supervision teams that only shoot their own soldiers, as claimed by Western media. They are more responsible for political education and rectifying military discipline. They even teach soldiers to read, write, and understand maps. In the Communist army, there is a term called "military democracy", which proposes to involve every grass-roots soldier in the discussion of combat operations. For officers who do not respect the human rights of soldiers, they establish a soldier committee to report bullying in the army. All this has made the Communist army the only modern army in China, with morale comparable to that of the European army, despite their extreme lack of weapons and equipment compared to their enemies. This led the Communist Party to always be able to survive every encirclement and suppression by the Kuomintang and, as they grew stronger, to defeat Kuomintang forces several times their own and ultimately rule China. It is difficult for us to connect today's CPC with that of the past

[@mastermirror3888]

Indeed. Battles around Xuzhou in 1948 precisely demonstrated that why KMT forces failed against an army that was much weaker and smaller.

[@Tupadre97]

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[@tomli9793]

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[@stoneruler]

Source : Chinese communist propoganda

[@altaparis]

What's the difference between rescuing and fleeing? Sorry, I'm not an English speaker.

[@LolxdgamerZocker]

Still insane to me, he came out on top despite all odds.

[@chizhang4369]

Because he was the greatest of all!

[@bjorntheviking6039]

Greatest mass-murderer of all time.

[@joshuaharvey8165]

​@@chizhang4369 Mao Zedong was a hero

[@victoneter]

@@chizhang4369 Really? Great leap forward?

[@wuhaninstituteofvirology5226]

Because Japan saved the CCP.

[@emperorshowa8842]

Turned many in China against him. Hence when the Communists arrived many defected. He had long-standing relations with Japan, and Chiang Kai-shek even taught military studies in Japan

[@jackoofman2560]

One of my favorite history channels on KZbin

[@SpeculativeConjecture]

I'm sure this was never originally a 8 part series, but im all for it

[@korakys]

Originally 3 parts, then 6, now 8. I'm not convinced it wont go to 9 parts (part 8 covering Mao's rule, part 9 covering Deng, Jiang, and Hu).

[@korakys]

Welp, the Mao-Deng transition got its own part; 10 parts now, lol.

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[@balabanasireti]

Cringe

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@@balabanasireti You are.

[@kensearle4451]

Can't wait to watch this new one - you still reviving the Stuff I find Interesting, Jabzy?

[@JohnDoe-bh2lp]

Tigray's genocidal and evil

[@taWay21]

I'm a simple man. I see jabzy, I click like.

[@balabanasireti]

What an unoriginal comment 😂

[@Jesse_Dawg]

Please MORE of this series. Please don't stop at 8. Please make it like 500 series. This is my favorite series from you by far. Keep it up please

[@alehaim]

When it comes to Manchuria's industry, you failed to mention that the Soviets had stolen a lot of it, leaving the cities kind of worthless for the KMT who got to occupy them in many ways. instead of being able to take advantage of their industries and produce guns and such locally, they had to transport them from the war torn cities of East and South China

[@kevinchang6979]

While the Soviets did forcibly take a lot of Manchurian industry, the KMT did not occupy Manchuria in any large parts as the territory was quickly given to the Communists. I think that KMT territory was at the southern border of Manchuria.

[@scarletcrusade77]

@@kevinchang6979 Also worth noting most of the Japanese Kwangtung army was defeated and taken as POWs left a lot of equipment to give to the communists giving them an advantage

[@noahpeng1689]

The three most powerful forces in the world in the 20th century, the German Nazis, Soviet Communism, and American liberalism all supported the Kuomintang. The Kuomintang still cannot defeat the Communist Party. A century of rotten party.

[@powergrassp7769]

But the KMT was driven to Taiwan, and the KMT's fighting capacity was low😅

[@alanxu1238]

KMT had really serious internal problems, KMT lost the war with a troop that is four times the army of CCP’s and half of their army turns their back on them. That is where you now they messed up.

[@NightPhoenix.Y]

Well KMT massacred the new fourth army in the south when both communists and nationalists had a treaty cease fire to fight the Japanese. Chiang also started the war with the communists in the first place

[@tinteoffnen]

@@NightPhoenix.Y共產黨根本沒有抗日！

[@Spanner249]

Brutal history lesson.

[@chizhang4369]

Glad that you mentioned those fighters in Northeastern China! And yes, although many of them are communists, many other of them are indeed mere bandits who also fight against Japanese and many of them were indeed Koreans. The fact that many of them were not communists but in fact bandits who just fight alongside communists were probably a big reason why many of them defect and surrendered to Japanese. Many leaders of the army, such as Yang Jingyu and Zhao Shangzhi, were essentially killed by traitors. Surrendering to Japanese was so often that the most vile insults those fighters used were “you fucking traitor” instead of some more common ones

[@tomli9793]

​@光荣属于中华 为了反对旧社会你把旧社会的旧社会当做头像

[@JoeSmith-gj8be]

Hey, I like your videos. Would you mind listing your sources in the description so we can read about it too?

[@8-bitstream379]

That would be like 30 pages of links alone

[@Notimportant253]

@@8-bitstream379 could link to a google doc with all his sources

[@stoneruler]

Ok you really exaggerated Daili's importance. He definitely did not have enough influence to stop US aid to nationalist China. Chiang's biggest mistake was overextending his army into the north east region (Manchuria) of China. It was far from his power base, and bogged down his army. While the CCP had support from neighbouring North Korea and USSR. It was an unfavourable battlefield for the KMT.

[@zorro4266]

你是对的。

[@timwong8935]

Japan left all their industrial power base there, they really built Manchuria as new Japan. they treated that area as part of their homeland almost, so had Jiang simply just let them take it, within a few years the communists will have better industrial output than him. Its a lose lose situation for him, but more importantly his generals' incompetence along with lack of support from the local population doomed the KMT. At the time Stalin wanted a divided China, so he tried to balance out both sides so no one can completely dominate, but he didn't expect the US to not back up the KMT, thus allowing communists to completely steamroll KMT in Manchuria. Another thing to consider is its the geography of China, North and West are higher elevation, compare to South and East, so as the war progressed, KMT faced literal uphill battles where Communists often had higher grounds. It's so challenging to fight up north which is why Jiang himself shifted the Japanese forces to Shanghai from Beijing in 1938. Trading space for time he was able to halt Japanese forces using higher elevations of western China to his advantage. Had he tried to take on Japan like how he did during the later civil war, he would have almost certainly lost.

[@stoneruler]

@@timwong8935 well I disagree with some parts. Kmt generals were not as bad as you say. Early campaigns saw Kmt win most large battles. It’s just that they didn’t have enough supplies to carry on. Also the whole economic situation just crumbled in Kmt bases.

[@tomli9793]

​@@timwong8935 American aid only stopped after the Kuomintang lost the Northeast

[@JeffSmith-yk1xb]

​@@timwong8935 ，actually, US helped transport Jiang s army from south to northeast, Russian secretly changed its neutral position

[@thatsnodildo1974]

Nationalist forces be like "how did we lose??? All we did was loot and murder our own country men"

[@dirt-kw7cy]

+ if you are poor that communist propaganda is like getting a free ticket to heaven. Ideology that fills your mind with great dystopian images of the future or bald autocrat bribing and assassinating to keep power.

[@Rannos22]

So did the communists

[@concept5631]

Roosevelt wanting to hand French Indochina over to China is probably the worst thing he could've suggested in that situation.

[@bjorntheviking6039]

A very FDR-tier thing to do, then. We seriously lucked out that he was a sickly cripple and died when he did.

[@Alex-pj8nz]

Considering what happen next it was a good idea but the French got it back which led to the Vietnam war.

[@concept5631]

@@Alex-pj8nz Vietnam was always gonna end up in a lose-lose situation

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

Any situation that didn't involve "allow Vietnam indepedence" was a bad option.

[@concept5631]

@@KaiserMattTygore927 Correct

[@JXSMS]

By far the most detailed video on this topic on KZbin! So informative. You're doing a great job. Keep going!

[@Jesse_Dawg]

Please more episodes in this series. This is my favorite series you've ever made

[@jw1731]

23:45 this picture of the CPV soldier is from the cover art of DML’s scale model Korean War Chinese soldier set. I bought one as a kid in 1998.

[@Iris-gr1rn]

My grandfather was a kmt lieutenant colonel who went to Taiwan and waited to come back to China his whole life after the communists killed his family because they were land owners. Pretty sure he hated the kmt at the end because they were so hopeless.

[@kongqiyiwang]

好杀，地主该死光光了😂

[@kingdaymon6433]

I wonder how many people needlessly died or lost everything because of the KMTs ineptitude

[@Iris-gr1rn]

@@kingdaymon6433 not nearly as many as the ccp murdered

[@Iris-gr1rn]

你支持他們，因為你很窮。農民男孩@@kongqiyiwang

[@kongqiyiwang]

@@Iris-gr1rn 我是学生😂，农民反抗暴政永远是对的

[@Churrb]

YES, I NEED THIS

[@Dedog0]

Good video! I think, especially towards the end, it could have used some more editing, as you repeated some phrases, and didn't redo a take when you mispronounced something and went back to say it again. Also at the beginning it felt like the map was kind of out of sync with the voice over? Other than that really good work! I am excited to compare this to other documentaries on the topic!

[@JabzyJoe]

Hey man - can you let me know when that happens so I can remove it?

[@Dedog0]

@@JabzyJoe Oh yeah for sure, I'll take a look again tomorrow :)

[@Dedog0]

@@JabzyJoe Sorry, I can't find it anymore. But I also gotta say, I saw the Princeton Chinese Politics course after this here on youtube, and that just confirmed how good your research is! Well done!

[@lvetg8928]

@@JabzyJoe 31:33

[@xinel4576]

I love this channel

[@HarvestStore]

Great video.

[@geometrytestament2024]

As a chinese myself, I would like to bring an vital point of how communist win the civil war: ECONOMY. China was like 95 percent farmer and only 3 percent worker. There is no industry and only produce are agriculture sector. And KMT’s big 4 family signed comprador treaties to let foreign goods flow into China with minimum import tax, which kills any domestic industry. And because KMT’s 51% tax are from import tax, that means they are willing to follow the interests of foreign colonizer on market control. This is important there was no industrialization and every industrial goods like machine or medicine are imported. So the economy model at that time was comprador/ landlords who sell out farmer's surplus to trade industrial goods from imperialists. basically the loop : imperialists exploit local comprador, and local comprador exploit landlord, and land lord exploit peasants. Therefore that’s how Maozedong's thought deviated from western marxism. Since there is no industry set in China, and only labor and resources are taken by colonizers. Therefore knocking down capitalism doesn't provide industrialization. Therefore, Mao’s policy is essentially is to use the surplus of the farmer to create the domestic industries and working class first. One prominent example is Mao's method of giving land to peasants. Which angered other communist colleges who studied in soviet and followed a “orthodontic marxism”. They criticize Mao for “capitalizing the farmers”. (btw, he changed conscript policy to volunteer red army policy. but red army still quadrupled under him, because now farmers are defending their own property). Mao rooted deep in villages and encircle the city from village, and since all raw material and veggie/ grain/food in the city comes from village, Just like how US weaponize the patro dollar, Mao able to weaponize the all village production by anchor the CPC currency to village productions exchanged in villages. compared with KMT's inflating bills (they actually have a 6 million paper money, and it can only buy one carrot). In the KMT's later age in mainland, even KMT have to store CPC's soviet currency if they want to buy foods. and by then, CPC can print money to manipulate KMT's city economy. Also Mao welcomed cooperation with domestic patratoit industry capitalist if CPC was able to constrain them. Which got him criticized by other communists as a right winger and almost got expelled from the party three times in the early age of CPC. But later, those capitalists quickly got into CPC's industry and even able to export the products for goods (like medicine/weapons) that blockade by KMT. there are even KMT officials/ capitalist who want to start their own company defect to communist because KMT’s import policy kills all domestic industry. It is very rare for a communist got support from all the classes

[@zorro4266]

1、先要了解国民党的资源委员会所干的事情。四大家族只是陈伯达编撰出来的。 2、资委会的经济政策和罗斯福的新政是一个模式。 3、国统区的资本家出口到解放区的原因是，可以获得能源和工业生产的材料。 如果说“国民党控制了商品流入”是成立的，那“国民党用苏币”和“出口国民党封锁的商品”就不成立。如果上条成立，那我说的就是对的。 实际上很简答，就看解放区的范围。在查看当时中国的油矿和大型煤矿位置，以及运输道路，就知道了。 还有拿到苏币有什么作用？存起来？这是农民想法，资本家的钱是拿来买生产资料，继续生产商品的。也就是说解放区有资本家需求的资源。

[@user-yx3sy5ep1s]

@@zorro4266 这些是细枝末节上的，各个史学家、党史学家与经济学家的意见上的不同，可以慢慢讨论，但唯一一点你得承认这个评论是对的：国民党几乎站到了当时中国从上到下所有阶级，包括民族资产阶级甚至是地主的对立面，国民党的败亡台湾不是没有道理的。

[@zorro4266]

@@user-yx3sy5ep1s 不是几乎全部。比如跑到香港和台湾的那些。香港的崛起就是依靠上海跑去的资本。 事实上，大陆上的资本家跑了70%，其中60%在香港，其余跑到东南亚和台湾。 我研究历史是按时间线对比。而不是依靠同地区学者的研究。如果查询1949年后的香港资本就很有意思了，再查询东南亚的华人资本也有意思。 实际上，共和国的副主席荣毅仁家族各个成员的去向就可以一窥一二。 （同地区也有对立观点学者，我不会排斥任何观点。分辨资料真伪需要人类独有的逻辑推理。）

[@zorro4266]

@@user-yx3sy5ep1s 有时候的宣传也会暴露历史细节，用这些细节再去查询其他地方资料，就会击破宣传的内容。当然我只是研究历史，而不是参与政治。

[@zorro4266]

@@user-yx3sy5ep1s 比如，改革开放时候荣毅仁副主席邀请他家族的人回国投资。在大陆的只有他一家。 这证明什么呢。不就证明跑掉的是多数，留大陆的是少数。当然，资本家第一代的大多数留在了大陆，比如卢作孚。

[@FF-le3ps]

Love your vids. Will you do a video on the history of the muslim world from the 1700s

[@WriteInAaronBushnell]

@25:00 ....what? The people didn't take up arms to defend the landlords😮😮😮😮

[@tomli9793]

…What?The American people have not taken up arms to defend their bankers?😱

[@lunarmodule6419]

Very interesting thank you

[@luffy101311]

Wake up babe, new Jabzy just dropped

[@rayyankhan343]

Hello on the last video I said a KMT Muslim general was buried on my mosques burial plot the individual was General Tung Ching Ma the whole family is buried there actually

[@lonelychameleon3595]

Seems like Mao didn't need to do much except watch the KMT turn everyone against them

[@CannibaLouiST]

He needs Soviet aid - lots of them

[@theactingace]

Mao did some trolling

[@scarletcrusade77]

Especially asking people to give honest critiques of the ccp then promptly killing them all after promising they wouldn't punish them. Biggest snake moment

[@TrickiVicBB71]

28ish minute mark. That's one way to deal with the war on drugs

[@netizencapet]

Just wonderful drawings.

[@caseclosed9342]

03:54 So this is how Eugene Sledge ended up becoming a China Marine…

[@Razzle_Dazzle-]

13:30 Damn, the KMT was so incompetent that they almost created another civil war front in Taiwan

[@diegodlv1001]

The "poor management of the economy" by the kmt refers to their policy of opium production i assume?

[@user-qg2di3vv3d]

If you want to chase that red star, go east.Across the Dnieper River, over the Ural Mountains, at the end of the Siberian plain, still burning.

[@ErikHare]

Would you like to have Chinese subtitles available?

[@19MAD95]

It would be cool if you did the like of Deng Xiaoping.

[@unifieddynasty]

The war was the ROC's to lose. They had nearly every advantage except popularity among the peasantry.

[@BoneLord303]

those "serious blunders" he keeps mentioning the nationalists did are just to be expected from a group such as the KMT

[@wuhaninstituteofvirology5226]

It would have been better if you showed Tuva as well, so that everyone could see the Soviet Russia's plans at that time.

[@HW-sw5gb]

Tuva was annexed in 1944

[@twoforcesinbalance1543]

"Mao had therefore defeated the landlords, businesses, warlords, and most serious opposition in China" Damn, think he could come back for like a week?

[@saikou1490]

ill pass on the famine part tho.

[@twoforcesinbalance1543]

@@saikou1490 i like food too but that's why he's only allowed for a week just to spook people a lil bit

[@cyborgchicken3502]

​@@twoforcesinbalance1543 I'm not too keen on another Cultural Revolution either...

[@DarkBoy-zd8qz]

​@@saikou1490there would be always pros and corn but what is important is what surpasses higher

[@leileijoker8465]

And you my guailow friend will be put on a struggle session too.

[@FlyingRazzo]

I didn't know that KMT have been so brutal in Taiwan...

[@tomli9793]

They have always been like this. Do you think the Chinese people do not support Chiang Kai shek because they prefer to be killed during the Cultural Revolution?

[@brunokagawa6287]

That's because the Western propaganda machine won't allow that to reach headlines.

[@dxelson]

man there should be more English language Chinese civil war movies

[@joeshmoe8345]

Cool thanks

[@Savke100]

Dude really used McArthur quote. Dude was bloodlust anti-communist lunatic.

[@linik70]

Historia de pesadelo😢😢😢😢. Kmt no inicio cassou o poder dos senhores de guerra. Desentralizados que dava algum balanço de poder entre as parte em brigas internas isso abriu espaco para japoneses e comunistas.

[@firemangan]

Roosevelt be like: They’re called Indochina so they must be Chinese 🤓

[@patrickblanchette4337]

25:47 On boy, that sure sounds like a witch hunt to me😕!

[@user-st5cm2if8r]

当做是冷战时期发生在中国的麦卡锡主义就好了。就是政治迫害。

[@user-zu4nl7bm9e]

And druing Liberty war, most of KMT army was not wiped out, nearly half of them revolted theirs officer, then joined the CCP army to fight against the evil KMT. They were promised to have theirs own farmland, then soldiers have reason to fight on, to protect their farmland, simple reason, simple motivation, simple result.

[@fritzbasset8645]

And then in the Korean War they were the shock troops that Peng Dehuai ordered against the Americans in the suicide attacks near the Yalu River/Chosen Reservoir. That's where the 1 million casualties suffered by the People's Forced Army came from in that war. Before you freak out: I have a degree in Asian history; my wife is from Shenyang and my father-in-law is a retired Party member living in my house in the US. Always remember that the "evil" KMT achieved a more perfect democracy on Taiwan than in the US with the work done by Jiang Jieshi's son CCK and Lee Teng-hui; China has a poor man's Mao in Xi Jinping. Someday mainland Chinese will realize that Mao is in the same category as Stalin, Lenin, Mussolini and Hitler.

[@user-st5cm2if8r]

@@fritzbasset8645 看看这家伙的甲叠的多厚啊，很难不想像他是不是1450。但是美国历史学家约瑟夫谷尔等的the untold story of the war里的数据怎么和你如此不同，不会是这位德高望重的先生编的吧？我觉得不可能，可是他如果没有撒谎的话，你就在撒谎了。

[@afonsopereira2703]

As Portuguese, I tell you in this video you are wrong: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH-vf3eGnM2Hipo Yes, we use Grandola Vila Morena as a sinal to prepare the revolution and E Depois do Adeus to start it, but that happened on the night of 24th April 1974, and not during the Eurovision! Actually the Eurovisions's final happened on 6th April 1974, so even the music used in the revolution was the same, the time that happen is complete different!

[@alfred-vz8ti]

he came to power by not being jiang, by being an active champion of the poorest people, by attacking japanese instead of chinese, by having a vision of a better society, the usa tried to stamp him out, which is a measure of usa, wholly owned by the rich, and rabid about socialism. this was a mixed blessing for jiang, all the guns he needed, but a stamp on his forehead, saying 'foreigner's lapdog.'

[@mappingshaman5280]

"Attacking Japanese instead of Chinese." Lmfao did you not watch the previous video in this series? Even during the sino Japanese war there were clashes between the communists and kmt. And if that wasn't enough mao later thanked the Japanese, saying if they hadn't invaded he wouldn't have won the civil war.

[@hiyukelavie2396]

​@@mappingshaman5280 Tbf, Jiang JieShi and the KMT started it with the Shanghai Massacre, where they brutally suppressed the CPC and the Chinese left in Shanghai The subsequent communist witch hunt, known as the white terror, saw more than a million people losing their lives

[@aroonsubway2079]

@@mappingshaman5280 You mentioned "clashes between the communists and kmt", but it cannot prove it was communists who initiated attacks on KMT. You mentioned "mao later thanked the Japanese", but it actually means nothing，because it's pretty much a satire.

[@fremiloant1186]

@@aroonsubway2079 doesnt change the fact that chiang spent zillions on fighting the communists while the Japanese ate up more and more of china and only began fighting them on the last possible moment lest his whole reign collapsed When mao thanked the Japanese or whatever, he did because they finally pushed far enough was the landlord puppets in the kmt that they finally laid down the weights against them, fraternal chinese and started laying their efforts to combat chinas enemy.

[@BBunny_CA]

@@mappingshaman5280 There are just uneducated kids that do not understand satire and sarcasm.

[@anyoneattheendoftime4932]

9:10 "Appointing Dai Li to the the head of police" - Wait, what?

[@Praisethesunson]

World tells Mao: Make peace with the fascists. Mao: THE LAND YOUR CLASS HAS STOLEN BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE. PREPARE TO BE EXILED TO AN ISLAND.

[@user-vu5dp2wm4e]

Chiang was a complicate person, with some wierd sense of honor, many of his screw-ups During both sino-japanese war and the civil war were done with full awareness of the advantages for the alternative. Arrogance and stubbornness was kind of his charm as well as his downfall. He even had a shot During the great leap forward except the US intervened because they didn't want more instability and they didn't want to povoke the USSR. But I do believe China would be at a better place today under KMT. But the USSR just has way more influence on China than the western.

[@user-mp8pr8kn2h]

为什么西藏地图标色和中国其他地方不一样？Why is the map color of Tibet different from that of other places in China?

[@CannibaLouiST]

點解要一樣？

[@cart172]

​@@CannibaLouiST Because it's one country as recognised by the UN, duh.

[@CannibaLouiST]

@@cart172 well the UN doesn't run this channel.

[@zhenzhai1574]

@@cart172 It isn't, do your fact check. It claimed to be a country for 40 years after Qing Dynasty collapsed but 0 country recognize it.

[@zorro4266]

2:14 1946年之前是只有小米加步枪，1946年后获得了日本关东军的的武器和装备。以及美国在远东支援苏联的美军装备，还有苏联从欧洲运来的德国装备。 （来源：朝鲜支援中国东北解放战争纪实） 2:38 当时蒙古人民党控制这个地区。乌兰夫能控制内蒙东部，蒙古人民共和国给了帮助，也就是说苏联在1945年10月就开始帮助中共。（来源：内蒙古史志） 2:51 1945年9月国民党就开始裁军。直到1946年低已经裁军了大约150万。（来源：抗战胜利后的国民党军官总队） 9:14 戴笠和美军情报组织合作的很愉快的。戴笠一直坚决对付日本军队和共产党。你这里转述和事实有很大偏差，估计是采取了左派的资料。 10:56 国民党战争失败和共产党发动农民的关系不大。现代战争是热兵器战争，有大量的资源消耗。美国在1946年6月5日开始“六月停战令”，持续到1948年才有军火支援国民党。 导致这时候的共产党军队火力已经超过了国民党军队。 淮海战役共产党就消耗了80万发炮弹，后面攻打山西太原动用了60万发炮弹。（来源：各种国共内战资料） 13:22 错误资料。大米和其他食物是被走私船运到了日本。台湾的工业设施在二战中被盟军轰炸，又经过1945年的海域封锁，台湾的工业设备大部分已经不能用了。 我知道你引用的资料来源来自台湾绿营的资料，但这是错误的。这和“韩国大邱10月事件”一样，查询韩国历史资料就知道台湾当时经济情况。注意韩国没有被盟军大规模轰炸过。 台湾228事变，鼓动暴力的有两派，1、共产党。2、向往日本的台湾人，俗称台湾皇民。（来源：在韩国历史找到的灵感） 还有一点很重要。还和国民党为什么在城市的经济管理不善相关。 这时候的中国是贫油国，唯一的油井在西北的甘肃、陕西地区，煤矿在东北和华北地区。这些能源绝大部分是共产党控制和骚扰地区。 台湾有煤矿提供能源，但挖掘和提炼设备二战中被摧毁。要恢复生产需要日本提供配件，这时候的日本又处于去工业化时期，无法有效提供。（来源：参考美军太平洋战役规划） 22:36 西藏有达赖VS班禅。 30:28 山东学生澎湖七一三事件，和原住民高一生。 澎湖事件是39师师长韩凤仪要扩大军队，私自罗织罪名导致的。 高一生的嘉义民兵在1947年抢夺军火库。其行为在当时背景下和现在背景下，都不是很正当。但是他写了保证书后，国民党并没有惩罚他，继续担任吴凤乡的乡长。 1949年继续和共产党一起开会，在1950年共产党在台湾的最高领导蔡孝乾被捕后，高一生在1954年被处决。 （Jabzy。您有疑问的话可以联系我，我可以解答一些问题。不过我英语不好。）

[@zorro4266]

国民党下属的资源委员会，其经济政策是参考了罗斯福的新政。也就是政府管控金融和物质。 资源委员会在1949年后全部向共产党投降，并且一直获得共产党优待。

[@felixmbandandayitabi4536]

The limit of this expose is its lack of political analysis.

[@scarletcrusade77]

Would it not have made sense for the allies to pour support into the KMT post surrender of Japan and help chiang win the civil war? Seems like china turning communist led to major headaches later on in the Cold War onwards

[@insertobject4002]

hindsight is a luxury reserved only for people in the future

[@dirt-kw7cy]

idk what I am talking about but The United states politicians favored him and saw him as a figure of Democracy potentially in the future. They basically fell for the communist propaganda.

[@HolyShitNew]

@@insertobject4002we now know that it would have goos but why didnt they know this back than? sounds important if a big country like china might have communist influence or not

[@drumagus2258]

then who would have made all our stuff?

[@vorynrosethorn903]

Recent historians talk a great deal about communist infiltration of the US state department when looking at this, there was a sea change in thought after Chinese documents and sources finally started getting translated into English and the severe unreliability of most English sources came to light. In short there was a great deal of campaigning on mao's behalf by people within the American camp and they certainly weren't above fabricating information and lieing through their teeth.

[@barryirlandi4217]

Wow.. That's depressing

[@youwayo]

20:01

[@mattluck2826]

Common Mao W

[@royc635]

You said no public movement after 60s , But culture rev is a millions people's public movement 😢. It even almost started a civil war in china. It failed at the end, but achievement were great. Privileges was greatly weakened, workers allow to set production plan by themself. Before70s, most education and healtheth sources were in the city, city-countryside gap was huge. But it became smaller in 70s. People's commue failed in 60s, but success in 70s.

[@JXSMS]

That sounds dubious. Not sure if the Cultural Revolution helped much in bridging the city-countryside gap.

[@concept5631]

129 views in 6 minutes

[@concept5631]

20 likes

[@emperorshowa8842]

9:05 my question is Why allying with the Japanese generals is just one of Chiang Kai-shek's mistakes?

[@JabzyJoe]

Turned many in China against him. Hence when the Communists arrived many defected.

[@emperorshowa8842]

@@JabzyJoe He wanted to recruit Japanese military experts to fight the Communist Party.

[@emperorshowa8842]

@@JabzyJoe I ask you a question, what if the alliance with the Japanese generals is beneficial to the Chinese anti-communist regime?

[@yoloi2470]

@@emperorshowa8842 the kmt relation with the japanese wasnt that bad initially. But due to the backfire of the pan asian movement the japanese wanted to influence china to join them in the fight against the west. But China of course denied this and dispute over influence within the mainland which initiate the sino - japanese war.

[@emperorshowa8842]

@@yoloi2470 The Kuomintang did not have a military force, as some believe, because the reason for Japan's surrender in World War II was the Soviet invasion of Manchuria in 1945. The West was at war with each other, and whether you knew it or not, a Japanese invasion of China was a very bad idea.

[@discordiancommunism]

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of plane crashes

[@georgekostaras]

Honestly I got a chuckle out of what Mao did to the landlords

[@thewestisthebest6608]

I assumed they did it

[@tomtomtrent]

Damn, this was some brutal stuff. But then again, so is a lot of Chinese history, and the CCP isn’t even close to having a monopoly on historical brutality

[@cart172]

Wait til you hear what the British Empire did around the world.

[@alessioskomneos655]

Hah no Chinese saw CPC as brutal dictator but those westoid do, they try everything from embargo to color revolution to turn Chinese against CPC but to no avail, they too coward to start a war even back then when China is piss poor never mind now when China is rich and prosperous under CPC. It's just funny to see your enemies that try to kill and plunder you have concern over CPC that pull China out of centuries of humiliation

[@alexlo7708]

Infrastructure were ruined down by the war. Poverty spread all over. US has not any policy help China re construct it's infra structure such Marshall plan in Europe after war. Many big guys in KMT horded essential goods making profit fuel more struggling among people. The CCP which was boost up by Japan weapons warehouse which Soviet had left to them. Add up with furious of people on failure of KMT in economics restructuring. Finally the KMT was losed to CCP. In conclusion , American who stupid used Japan as a tool to reshuffle table of European power in eastern Asia had unintentionally help CCP to power in China. The Japan start invaded China after US govt pledged to support them all logistic materials and fuel oil in the war.

[@johnwick9273]

The biggest reason why the Communist Party was able to take power was that China was an agricultural country at that time, but the peasants did not have land. The Communist Party redistributed the land and let them get the land.

[@alexlo7708]

@@johnwick9273 You are white , so you are shallow in knowing China. Lands in China are different in their location. Land on west northern part is lack of organic sediment while land on the southward is fertile. So the majority of farmers in the South have their own land because the land can feed their families. That's why farmers in the south resisted the commune rice paddy policy of Mao Ze Dong. So the CCP started its fortune after the American govt pledged to support Japan in opening war with China.

[@flutee6162]

Hell yeah, China time

[@ansonang7810]

RP corruption, communist manifesto in Mandarin and Russian. Support from rural region.

[@smallkorean-tx5jl]

精彩的视频，但是视频开头的地图里你漏掉了西藏。 即使是不提及西藏与中原在更早时候的历史。从清朝完整统一西藏的三百年里，到清朝覆灭中华民国建立，再到中华人民共和国建立。西藏一直是中国的一部分，从来没有符合国际法的程序表明西藏脱离中国。

[@user10u7]

Mao might not be a perfect leader but he stopped all the warlords and unite the country. Now the CCP is super centralized government

[@lazynow1]

Mao was a criminal

[@_marlene]

Lol this one went so sideways at the end. Bye

[@Magicrabbit76]

0:53, US offered Chiang to send troops to occupy those islands, and Chiang refused. Brush up your historical knowledge a bit, would you?

[@vvpp8992]

Have to reminder that the Manchuria (north east China today) was a independent country stands with Japan though not widely recognised than later occupied by Soviet. Itself alone has the best industrial capability on the Asian continent that can massively produce shells and aircrafts, while Kuomintang can't even build a truck without western parts. Soviets gave Manchu and weapons to CCP. Then after US ended supporting Kuomintang in 48, they became fish in barrel.

[@vvpp8992]

CCP's troop by then were quite Sovietlised. After civil war its number of artillery divisions owned reached a staggering number of more than 100. Which was the largest in the world. In many memoirs from warlords and Kuomintang officers, heavy artilleries made any type of defence paper thin...

[@bobjones2959]

It was never independent, it "stood with Japan" because it was a Japanese puppet state and the nominal leader, former Qing emperor Puyi had no real power in the government, which was de facto run by IJA officials. It also wasn't called Manchuria at the time, it was Manchukuo. Its industrial capacity was fueled by slave workers, mostly drafted from Chinese civilian populations.

[@kianvandenberg6364]

If only the Americans had helped the KMT

[@StevenZJ]

They had, but KMT was way too corrupted and incompetent.

[@eastern2western]

The major reason was ww2 allowed the communist grew and the hyper inflation afterwards.

[@leeming2781]

What do you know? The main reason is the corruption of the Kuomintang government and the lack of food for the people at the bottom. Landlords invaded a lot of land, and the corruption of the Kuomintang government made the people unable to live. So the army of the Communist Party fights voluntarily, they come from the bottom of the peopl

[@leeming2781]

If someone else took your land, and government officials oppressed you, and you couldn't even eat food, would you take up arms and resist?

[@alex88271]

By spying

[@hunggiang1475]

Easy to control the uneducated.

[@samwill7259]

Taiwan ended up fantastic in the modern day. Free, modern, democratic. But honestly, if the Kuomintang had won, would that still be true? The KMT didn't seem too much more democratic during the fact, only afterwards. I'm not defending the CCP, far from it, I'm just saying, maybe a free Taiwan was our best outcome.

[@otten5666]

It is a pretty big what if but I'd say that the reason Taiwan embraced democracy after being very authoritarian is that they, just like Japan and South Korea, saw the free market really is the best way to produce wealth. It is not a coincidence that South Korea, Japan and Taiwan all followed more or less the same steps to where they are today.

[@samwill7259]

@@otten5666 And, like most other democratic movements, it reached a point where the people got mad as hell and decided they weren't going to take it anymore

[@zorro4266]

@@samwill7259 国民党是自由民主1和2的问题。共产党是0和1的问题。也就是说美国人在这个时候是白痴。

[@bjorntheviking6039]

Historically, "right-wing" authoritarian governments have a greater tendancy to peacefully transition to democratic systems over time, Franco's Spain as opposed to Castro's Cuba. But China has a very deeply ingrained authoritarian bent because of it's geography and great population, so I'm not sure there would be sufficient incentive for a mainland RoC government to become democratic.

[@wingkeungkong415]

I think Taiwan will become Ukraine in Asia If the Taiwan people do not wake up

[@tl2245]

It's a easy question. Because all the people support CPC.

[@ArnoldTeras]

Guys, do you ever sometimes wonder whether Asia today would be at harmony and peace had the benevolent Nationalist China (ROC 🇹🇼) won the Chinese Civil War? Personally, I think things would at least be much better than they are today. If only we had some kind of time machine, brothers and sisters. :( 1. North Korea would have been quickly destroyed, reuniting all of Korea under a democratic republic. 2. The Indian subcontinent would have been one happy family, and China and India would remain close allies and partners. 3. The Tibetans would be peacefully practicing Buddhism under an elected government. 4. Russia would have been changed into a pro-Western democracy, one way or another. 5. China and America would be the world's foremost superpowers, and best friends together leading the Western and Eastern civilizations, perhaps forever and ever. :) 【 USA🇺🇸 India🇮🇳 Japan🇯🇵, South Korea 🇰🇷, Philippines 🇵🇭 Singapore 🇸🇬, France 🇫🇷, Australia 🇦🇺 Brazil 🇧🇷 Ukraine 🇺🇦 Europe 🇪🇺 Israel 🇮🇱 and China🇹🇼】

[@yoloi2470]

Nationalist china isnt benevolent under chiang kai shek regime.

[@smallkorean-tx5jl]

台湾人吗？如果国民党赢了，中国的毒品问题会怎么结束？当时中国有2000万吸食鸦片的人，以及全国各地几百万土匪。国民党从来没有建立完善的户籍制度，可以解决得了？

[@smallkorean-tx5jl]

然后你第五条就更离谱了。美国一个政治家布热津斯基在《大棋局》里提到过，苏联想要解体成俄罗斯后与美国共同主宰世界，但是美国不肯接受。那么美国怎么可能在三十年后接受一个中国共同成为超级大国😅 如果真的是国民党赢了，那么国内会有 ①2000万吸毒者和几百万土匪，基本社会治安怎么解决？ ②马步芳、阎锡山等军阀都有自己的部队，自己的地盘，甚至自己的兵工厂。这些军阀存在着，中国会形成多少土皇帝？几十年后还能维持和平统一吗？ ③当时与美国大概形成了零关税，请问在倾销下怎么实现工业化？

[@JXSMS]

lmao. You might have been trolling or it's just some sort of meme. But a serious reply is that KMT actually kept a dictatorship in Taiwan for decades, and it's hard to envision them being so corrupt and ineffective as also narrated in this video, that China would not fall into some sort of internal strife under them, or worse, cease to be a united nation (and maybe lead to further bloody civil wars etc.)

[@jxmai7687]

Keyboard war has started in the comment section. 🤣🤣🤣

[@jxmai7687]

张灵甫: "不是国军无能，而是共军太狡猾！”🤣🤣🤣

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

nah it's just 国军无能 LOL

[@jarrodyuki7081]

ccp vs kmt.

[@booradley6832]

Stillwell suggested abandoning China to the communists? Just how many times can one man be so wrong and still be allowed a command? To not be executed for treason? The world would be so much better of a place if he were never born. I mean every word that, full stop.

[@Discussors]

The communists were more competent than the KMT. It’s baffling to see people watching this series but still boot licking the KMT.

[@dwijuliantoro]

Just how many times US and UK sparked genocide and starvation in other countries? Do you even learn proper history ? Or all you do is believing all your teacher and television said ?

[@leningradcowboy2953]

Based mao purging the landlords

[@truthaboveall7988]

America is never a helper I love it that u think otherwise

[@jarrodyuki7081]

youtubue adn facoebook still hold the axes over head i cant even anaytghin remottely hatefuly or fascist withotu riskgin losign my acount!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@chuckruckus3648]

How? Chinese Democrats is how

[@tom7258052]

The truth about the ROC illegal IN Taiwan 1.The Constitution of the ROC was formulated by KMT itself，and it was made in mainland China，without going through democratic procedures 2. The Constitution of the ROC was formulated without Taiwanese participation ，So the ROC constitution is illegal for Taiwan 3. The ROC was founded in 1912, At that time the ROC hadn't ruled Taiwan at all，Until 1945 KMT troops occupied Taiwan 4. until now Taiwan wants to have its own constitution，But the KMT and ROC constitutions do not allow Taiwanese to formulate their own constitution Long live for Taiwan Independent

[@brunokagawa6287]

Learn grammar before you write.

[@mjorangejuice0829]

你好丟臉啊兄弟😅

[@tom7258052]

@@mjorangejuice0829 我台獨份子 怎麼，抓我啊～！白痴 報警啊～俗辣XD

[@mjorangejuice0829]

有事嗎，我是說你的文法，外國朋友都這麼說了....

[@tom7258052]

@@mjorangejuice0829 沒關係，他們已經知道 綠底藍白十字旗 這樣目的也就達到了 台獨份子 大勝利

[@brickingman]

Ccp

[@jamesmvp9238]

It’s a tragedy to china