"Why DBD Players Are At WAR"

[@TootenTV]

DBD players are waring again. The reasons aren't any different than the past 6 years either.

[@luthergames6930]

I was under the assumption that we were always at war

[@TootenTV]

Lmfaooo fair. Welcome back Luther.

[@luthergames6930]

@TootenTV lol been a while since I been on this channel, was just talking to ya on Twitter so I was like you know what, what has this man been up to

[@TootenTV]

I thought that was you on Twitter. You inspired a video that is coming out in a few days.

[@luthergames6930]

@TootenTV glad I did lol just know that is just how I view it, obviously there are other factors that could be why dbd lost alot of hype

[@TootenTV]

I feel you, you made some really good points, even if I disagree a little bit. I did make sure to make a mention of the more direct leaks in the comments of it tho.

[@Epicness560]

Killer tunnels to get an edge on survivors, survivors get angry. Survivors use chase perks to artificially increase their chase time. Killer gets angry. Killer slugs, survivors angry. Survivors bring gen builds, killers angry. Its just a never ending cycle where people are constantly frustrated with the other side. Especially the people who "main" a side

[@TootenTV]

Best comment. Said it for years, it’s a never ending cycle of, because of how the game plays, the game creating its own toxicities. It’s a revolving door of anger and rage, leading to the inevitable of everyone who plays the game eventually caving and using that toxic build or play style.

[@tmoney1487]

I see allot of killers angry because survivors do XYZ thing. I mean personally if a survivor is being toxic then i feel like all gloves are off play how you want with them at that point. But if survivors are just doing their thing trying to escape bringing good perks and items then im not gonna be mad, I'll just accept my loss and move onto the next game. People care too much about losing, its like if they lose then they take it as a personal insult and carry that anger and hatred into the next game with them. Just learn to let go and have fun sometimes, a video game shouldnt be more stressful than your 9-5.

[@that80ssongyoulove84]

When BHVR plans to nerf the killer’s incentive to hook, slugging will become the new meta after the next hotfix. BHVR just definitely fuels the fire.

[@TootenTV]

I agree. I feel like most of the “them vs us” mentality comes from BHVR lack of being able to provide incentive to not play in “toxic” ways. It’s been talked to death about by now, they’ve been given solutions by very knowledgeable content creators, as said in the video, and they just haven’t done anything substantial about it.

[@dezignatedkiller1359]

I hear a lot of people talk about how Nurse and Blight are so OP but no one ever mentions that is only the case if the person playing them knows what they are doing. I've recently started learning Nurse and even when I don't do well I get crap for even playing her.

[@taragnor]

Nah you hear that quite a bit. Honestly the only thing keeping those two killers from being utterly despised by the community is that they're not that bad if the guy playing them isn't an expert. But if you run into an expert with either it's pretty much impossible to win. Otherwise they'd be hated more than Skull Merchant.

[@TootenTV]

They do take skill to be good at for sure. But when you get even MODERATELY good at one of those 2, you’ll destroy most teams you go up against.

[@blackopskiller1996]

Dude right? I'm doing an all killer adept challenge and nurse took me so long to do. Though blight was acually pretty easy for me despite being on RPD and my first time playing blight. Surprisingly enough legion was the hardest adept to do so far. Both nurse and legion took me around 10 games to acually get done

[@dezignatedkiller1359]

@@blackopskiller1996 I loved Legion from the very first time I played him. Nurse and Blight however are the bane of my existence. I do ok with them but just can't seem to get the hang of either of them.

[@stevenobrien7686]

I get this viewpoint, I suck with Blight.

[@Bossman6598_]

The unfortunate thing too is a lot of the people that get mad usually only play one side or the other, or if they do play the other side they do the same thing that they were complaining about. I love dbd, but people take it too seriously.

[@TootenTV]

I 100% agree. It's a party game that people take serious in a competitive manner. Although.... I am guilting of doing what I complain about lmfao.

[@Bossman6598_]

@@TootenTV I think most of us have done that you know lol. Especially when we see it works. Like when i get frustrated with killer I go over to survivor. It has helped me over the years to not take it so seriously. Even though there are some serious issues with the game lol.

[@Bossman6598_]

@@TootenTV also can’t wait to watch you stream again sir it has been far too long I hope everything has been going well for you and your family.

[@TootenTV]

@ I appreciate you man. Im just waiting on my capture card to get to my house. Also, we’re well bro, thank you. I hope you’re well too ❤️

[@crunchycakegaming1507]

14:09 bro has gotta be trolling to call them mid tier killers 😭

[@TootenTV]

My point is that every killer outside of the top 5 are basically mid-tier lmfao. I haven't kept up with many recent updates as I said in the video. I'm working on catching up so I can be completely knowledged on the current state of the game, but the topic of this video was so generalized and most of it's been a problem for years, I didn't think it would be an issue. I honestly don't know where those 2 sit right now, and I just went off of where they were and how they felt to me last time I played. Drac felt mid, with some interesting stuff and after Chucky's nerf, he felt horrible. I'll update myself though.

[@jadedkratos5528]

I get "tunnelled" every so often and it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I find it entertaining, I laugh and joke that I won the race back to the campfire XD

[@TootenTV]

@@jadedkratos5528 that’s a great way to look at it lol

[@LanaVentus]

I had a 40 minute singularity match (i was survior) and that was wild

[@TootenTV]

@@LanaVentus My longest matches have always come from survivors hiding when there’s 2 left 😂

[@isaiahjones7929]

Me personally I could care less about the communtiy waring against each other when I just play the game.

[@TootenTV]

That’s great for you!

[@jeffythesomething8772]

I think bhvrs been trying to discourage killers from doing unwanted behaviors, mainly tunneling, by giving survivors more things to counter it such as basekit borrowed time and other perks to help. I guess they hoped over time killers would eventually stop these unwanted actions from killers after they’ve had to deal with their 100’th decisive strike but this has just made killers more frustrated that the play style that once worked is actually becoming detrimental to them. So now they just camp tunnel and slug even harder to try and make up for the different things working agains their playstyle.

[@neilsiegman3270]

Genrushing isn't toxic repairing gens is the only way for survivors to leave and win, sometimes you just get put up against a good team- a killer main

[@Demonsouls1993]

genrushing isnt toxic just like tunneling/slugging/camping isnt toxic its the survivors job to escape and the killers job to kill

[@TootenTV]

I don’t think playing the game the way it forces you to play, is toxic at all. For either sides. As I said in the video, it’s frustrating, but you’ll do it if you play the other side. It’s just how this game works.

[@asheruswiftwind]

As someone who's worked for BHVR killers do get less love due to them only caring about money. Who gives more money 4 survivors or 1 killer. At the end of the day that is all they care about.

[@TootenTV]

That’s always been my assumption when it comes to the balancing and I guess you gotta respect the hustle. 4/1, you gotta go with the 4.

[@sasukelownwolf]

Well when Wesker is crazy good and probably the line for a “fair” killer, then realize there is like 7-10 killers even more broken…it makes survivor miserable

[@TootenTV]

What 7-10 killers do you think are broken? Not being aggressive, genuinely asking.

[@sasukelownwolf]

@ I didn’t think you was being aggressive at all, just asking a question. nurse, Blight, and Hillbilly for free. Spirit gets called broken but strangely I’m still split on if she still is after the nerfs. Like she is strong, but is it unfair, I don’t think so. Unknown and singularly are absolutely unfair and it isn’t spoken about enough. Now you called chucky mid tier which made me want to laugh. Unless this is Smash Ultimate where even the mid tiers have juice. But Chucky absolutely just steam rolls, and ends chases an instant with nothing to do. Then some people would throw in Plague but I think that’s only with her most crazy add ons so I don’t think it’s fair including her. And I did this off the top of my head. I’m sure I’m missing someone if I had the list in front of me. So 3 no brainers, 3 more people know are strong but don’t even realize are also broken until they think about it. Then one that commonly still added to the broken list I think no longer deserves to be there but is still powerful. And one that is game over with like 2-3 add ons but otherwise fine.

[@sasukelownwolf]

I actually just looked at the list. Artist gets commonly put into as unfair. But I personally don’t know on that one. Like bruh you hear legends of how strong Artist (and twins) are, but when do you ever see gameplay of them? 😂 so in good faith I can’t say. Bc I’m not an artist main nor can commonly find just artist gameplay of dominating anyone and everyone. But some I was missing were cenobite and Dracula. Absolutely can see people go on 100 game win streaks for free. So add them to the list. It’s actually comical when people say Dracula isn’t broken. When once you master Dracula you are just better spirit. Cenobit just slows the game inherently and gets free chase start if they do the box. And Dracula has all the mobility you need and ends chases in 20 seconds. Like once you master them you have close games but you don’t lose. But artist is a question mark and I’ve watched hundreds of hours of gameplay or played killer myself. She might just be really strong but fair

[@TootenTV]

I think outside of the obvious strong killers, top 3-5 you’ve listed, most of the rest are pretty subjective. Singularity may be strong, but we don’t have a ton of data on it because barely anyone plays him. When people who are decent play him, he steam rolls because hardly anyone has experience playing against him. Cenobite I think is the most subjective one you’ve listed, but I would argue he’s objectively mid, but with his best add-ons, subjectively right below the top 10. I would agree that when Chucky first came out, he was incredible, but after his nerf, not so much, even the buff after that, he’s only good if you can consistently do his tech. But that leads me to more of my point, with only 3-5 “broken” killers in the game, another 5 “really good” killers and the rest being pretty mid, or upper mid in certain situations with certain perks. Is it really that bad for survivors? I feel like the main problem when something like this is said, is because of repetition. It’s a problem because, when you’re consistently losing, it’s to the same 3-5 killers. If BHVR were to balance it out, and bring more killers into the same realm as the top 5-10, it wouldn’t be much of a problem anymore, because there would be variety to the killers you were playing, and potentially losing against.

[@FireflyABQ]

I think "honor" is pretty non existent in the game and that's the way the devs set it up. There are very few rules. And if you want to have "honor" - it becomes a rulebook and the rulebook is so all over the place because opinions like "you can't go after me if I 4% off the hook" or "You can't body block" or "you have to hook us all one at a time - slugging never allowed" - well. All of that is up to interpretation and it goes against the basic (and only) goals of the game: kill survivors. Survive the killers. So now you have two sides with different rulebooks and nobody agrees. Sounds like a recipe for war.

[@TootenTV]

The “rule books” of DBD kill me lmao

[@thebigbadwolf]

I play both roles. But enjoy playing Survivor for the moments. I see it like a mini horror movie each round. It's mostly just chaos. If I die I die. 😆 I even enjoy playing the role to be a savior or causing chaos.

[@TootenTV]

That sounds like a great way to look at playing the game. Probably 10x less stressful lol.

[@thebigbadwolf]

@TootenTV Oh absolutely. Heck sometimes my teams in solo gang up on me because I used red herring while on a generator put at 70 to 75 percent alone by myself and they come running over on mine. Nah. That's my gen. 😈 👈😡😠😤

[@stevenobrien7686]

As a 2k hour survivor main (probs about 500 on killer), who's played against high level players fairly regularly (As in I've done some exhibitions, and played against content creators and comp players on occasion for whatever that's worth), I have to say I get people having a bias. What I don't get is players that clearly go out of their way to make others miserable, and only care about their own experience. Or getting so in their own ego that they don't consider anyone in the opposite role with opinions other than theirs valid. But tunneling is just a part of the game, and I can't ever fault killers for playing a killer that they think is fun to play as, who BHVR just designed so poorly that they're unfun to play against. Mostly in the KZbin space I only see killer players discussing the state of the game, and survivor players are treated as universal invalids, and I wish that wasn't the case. For all the talk about sweaty survivor swfs being an issue, I can tell you the game is not very fun right now for casual survivors who don't like to efficiency max like me and my friends. I just like looping and going for hype flashbang plays, and so do my friends. But when every killer comes in prepped for a full gen rush squad, it kills the fun for everyone. I really feel like skill isn't even a big part of the equation anymore. It's just whoever brings the more sweaty broken nonsense into the match and plays the safest and most try hard. Sad to see.

[@TootenTV]

I agree. It’s so easy to also say, as a killer main, “I only bring the best in slot for my killers because I know the survivors are going to be sweaty”. Flip side, as a survivor main it’s, “I bring meta perks because I know it’s going to be an OP killer with gen slowdown”. And you have the never ending cycle of toxicity, with each side player more toxic the next game because the killer/survivors were toxic to them the previous match. It’s a never ending cycle that can only be stopped by BHVR and the direction they take the game in. They need to incentivize more natural play, instead of rewarding play styles that could be considered toxic or unfun for the other side. I’m definitely guilty of being a “killer main” and talking about nothing but how survivors and their perks need to be balanced, but I really do try and sit back and remember that I got broke shit too. I also have been trying to play more survivor. I’m not survivor illiterate, I’ve been rank 1/high mmr more times than I can count with survivor, but I play killer so much more that it’s easy to forget.

[@SweetLeavesXbox1]

Played this game since May 2018. Put over 5k hours into Survivor alone & about 1k into Huntress alone. From the years of experience & watching the game change countless times since Behavior hates nostalgia. Found that DBD in general promotes toxic gameplay. Tunnleing is the best strat for gameplay at its highest level. Gen rushing and getting the killers attention just to run them forever is how Survivors win. Survivor hates being slugged for the endgame mori when they could just hook them. Killers hate when Survivors just stand at the exit gates and teabag when they could leave. Behavior wants trials to end under 10 mins. Better for que times which is understandable. So tiles have been nerfed & gens are completed much faster than 2018. Killers have recently been getting major perk buffs thats considered OP at times. Stuff like 3rd Seal & Huntress is absolutely busted since the effect works with the killers power. (Busted for the majority of pub matches, comp play isnt the standard in DBD) Seems like Behavior wants us to rip each other apart. The winning mindset & the hatred for the other row creatives this addiction to log onto DBD. I personally enjoy the "toxic" gameplay. Enjoy the personality my trials have. Totally againts a "balanced" DBD. This game was peak when thing was completely busted. Creating more fun vs a competitive feel everygame. It was about having fun, not winning.

[@TootenTV]

I heavily agree with the game being more fun when it was busted. I think that in the aspect of perks though, not like, old infinite tiles lmao. Bring back old Dead Hard and old Hex Ruin.

[@lordsalmon7243]

No dis credit to the video its very good but i always see these vids in my feed and as someone whos been avoiding the community "drama" this game for my friends and i is still a great time. Its just crazy how staying out of touch i enjoy the game way more. Great reaction btw 👌 Also completely agree with the For Honor take 😂

[@TootenTV]

@@lordsalmon7243 that’s honestly very fair. You’ve developed your own opinion, instead of being spoon fed one by CCs. A lot of people in the community just regurgitate what they hear their favorite CC say and it’s a never ending circle of nothing ever getting done lol. Also, thanks! And yeah, best comparison I could make 😂

[@DillonMeyer]

You know what's OP? Whining about any single balance thing in DBD and it actually getting changed because a developer randomly saw the comment on social media that one time, four months ago.

[@TootenTV]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I doubt that's ever happened.

[@KronosSupreme]

Real talk, and I know most content creators are too cowardly to say it. There are way more survivor players than killers. For the most part most killers can play survivor. BUT majority of survivor players never touch or play killer. (too hard, too stressful, many excuses) Game creates a US VS THEM situation. Survivor players feel they re "entitled" and have a rule book in their head when a game is fair or unfair. The average DBD player is a casual survivor player that comes back every update to play for a few days or a week and come back again on the next update. That is the reality. And these players have the most insane amount of entitlement and toxicity I never seen in other PVP games.

[@TootenTV]

Honestly, this is facts.

[@Kinyoku]

While you are not wrong, that is kind of the nature of the game at least as far as killer to survivor ratio. 1 v 4, so there will naturally be more survivor players though I do get what you are saying in terms of mains and people making excuses. I predominately play more survivor, though I *do* play killer. Not often because it does give me anxiety and not because its hard. I just want to make sure I give people a fun match as I know from personal experience what it is like to be the survivor. My first soon to be P100 is actually killer to boot, Wesker is currently P93.

[@tyler69]

The gag is this game is not even supposed to be competitive but weird people like you made it like that to the point where average people don't want to play this anymore because they don't want to play a sweat fest

[@TootenTV]

Fighting games are inherently competitive. There have been tournaments since they’ve existed. What you said is just uninformed.

[@tyler69]

@TootenTV thanks for ruining the game

[@TootenTV]

Yw bbygirl

[@kendriccoley7053]

I won't lie I was playing Chucky for a friend and got gen rushed so damn quick I only got 3 hooks in

[@TootenTV]

Like Ardetha said, both sides aren’t inherently wrong. Both made good points. Gen rushing exists, tunneling exists.

[@scootboot69420]

Personally i would be more than willing to give up tunelling if it meant the devs also got rid of gen rushing. I see tunelling as the counter to gen rushing and while both are unfun to go up against i would gladly give them both up What annoys me is when entitled players, (usually survivors) hate one but are perfectly fine for the other "ehm tunelling is bad and stupid, but Genrushing is efficient and good!!!" Why yes i would gladly take tunelling being harder to do if genrushing was harder to do.

[@TootenTV]

@ that’s honestly fair

[@cinderefell1399]

Conceited developers? Yeah, sure. But at the same time people acting like a company is supposed to listen to them- They're not. BVR is a company, and we're not their shareholders.

[@TootenTV]

BHVR themselves made a program for the top, popular content creators to funnel advice and feedback from the community, through those creators. They did not listen to those creators at all and that’s where my statement stemmed from. Also, I mean, we paid for this product, feedback on a product has existed since a market has. It’s not uncommon for the developer of a product to listen to the feedback of the consumer and make changes. Most of the time when the developer doesn’t, the product, doesn’t always fail, but definitely takes a hit in popularity.

[@Seoul_Soldier]

Someone told me that I Trapper was overpowered.

[@TootenTV]

I’ve been told that as well lmao. Even with as bad as he is, he’s one of my favorite killers.

[@SpikeBarren]

I’m surprised people are still playing this game. I quit years ago

[@TootenTV]

I quit playing it too, but I enjoy keeping up and talking about it.

[@nuclearpugg]

He didn't mention even mention SWF lol

[@TootenTV]

I think SWF has generally been heading in a decent direction.

[@nuclearpugg]

@@TootenTV No updates have been made on SWF?

[@TootenTV]

@@nuclearpugg Perk balancing around SWF. There have absolutely been updates to perks that SWF could abuse and make killers miserable.

[@severinevans346]

I'm a killer in DBD I don't hate survivors I just don't care about their complaints. I have my own but bring what you want. Do what you want. Don't complain to me though I don't care.

[@TootenTV]

That’s fair.

[@antidreams]

Your mic only outputs on the left side at times

[@TootenTV]

Yeah, I had some audio issues with OBS. Annoying issues I’m working on fixing. When the video is paused and it’s just me talking, it’s a different audio recording software.

[@antidreams]

@@TootenTV u can make the OBS mic audio mono

[@TootenTV]

@@antidreams Yeah, I'm actually working on that now lmao

[@ThatGamingHer0]

myers not being op? so being able to end the match in 4 min is not consider op? yeah ok lol.

[@TootenTV]

@@ThatGamingHer0 My brother in Christ, you’re not gonna try and argue that Myers is op lmao

[@ThatGamingHer0]

​@@TootenTV pretty rare to see a myers without tombstone so yes i am saying hes op. plz tell me how that doesn't make him broken?

[@TootenTV]

@@ThatGamingHer0 My brother in christ lmao. GOOD LORD.

[@Xpertman213]

I see this tunnel being anti-fun so often but I don't get it. Chases are the fun part of the game, why is it not fun to have 3 chases and then go next? And if you are SWF then there should be people around who can be altruistic and extend the match having fun that way. I don't get it, why do people love being AFK on a gen so much? I pray to get tunneled every game. edit: Not to mention trying to be altruistic as the Survivor is also more engaging than AFK on gen if you aren't the one getting tunneled. I just don't think its about fun, I think its about not winning. If it was about the fun people would just have fun being chased and being altruistic. And as a killer tunneling one survivor also usually leads to more chases overall in the game, which is ironic, because you have more time to chase. I would understand this about camping, sitting on a hook for 140 seconds is trash, but being chased?

[@TootenTV]

I definitely understand the frustration of being tunneled off hook. Getting downed, hooked, get off hook, only to have the killer who was staying close to the hook, jump right back on your ass, is frustrating. I understand being chased is what makes the game the game, but getting into a match, only to get immediately eliminated, is super annoying.

[@Xpertman213]

@@TootenTV If there wasn't a plethora of anti-tunnel perks I would agree. As it stands any one of them makes the chase after being unhooked playable like you had 2 health states. Off The Record even suppresses groans of pain so that's not a factor. Zarina is F2P so it's not like its a hard perk to get either. We have to put some burden on other people too. If a killer has that easy of a time tunneling you its because your team is playing like a 1v1. At that point its not just a killer problem. You can safely unhook someone from a proxy camp even as solo queue. If the killer doesn't chase anyone else when you are hooked its 4 gens worth of progress, so i'd consider that more camping then tunneling at that point. edit; Basically, it seems like there is a point where the frustration might be the usual 'bad teammates' frustration of any team game that is inevitable.

[@TootenTV]

Honestly, all good points. I can’t help but agree. Especially when it comes to teammates. I definitely know the difference between playing SWFs and solos, because it is harder to tunnel a SWF when I feel the need to.

[@StoneweaverEnt]

you know its crazy seeing how much worse the servers over there are than AU. We have dwarf versions of all these problems. Usually, the worst I get is In game bullied and T-bagged, which sucks but there's no personal assaults in the end game chat (mostly). To that end one thing I do disagree with you on is "honour" in video games. I know its not going to change but we don't have to use games as an excuse to shit on other people we can uplift our opponents win or lose. That sadly requires individual choice and allot of people prefer to take the easy rout of just being a dick after the fact. But with that being said I don't think using the tools the game gives you is dishonourable. stunning, flashing and gen rushing, all a part of the game. As is tunneling slugging and proxy camping, they all have their place. There are counter strategies to most of these playstyles if people take the time to learn them.

[@TootenTV]

I don't mean honor doesn't exist or you shouldn't have it, in the aspect of; you should be a dick to everyone you run into. I just mean in the aspect of; I don't have to play a certain way to make you feel better about potentially winning or losing. That goes for both sides as well. Using what the game gives to win, regardless of what that is. Outside of obviously bugs, glitches and other exploits. Also, yeah NA is pretty toxic, and from what I've seen, EU is just as bad.

[@almadondo]

0:38 I mean if you don’t like the game ? Easy solution, dont play it.if you play it you have no right to complain

[@TootenTV]

Plenty of right to complain about something we’ve spent our money and time on. If it was free, sure. I and everyone who plays it, paid money for it.

[@dre439]

Stupidest thing ive ever seen, "if you play the game you have no right to complain about it" swear u guys love sucking the devs nuts so bad,

[@TootenTV]

I’ve never understood that take. Like, we purchased this product lol. We absolutely have a right to give feedback, albeit, it should be in a mostly respectful manner. I say “mostly”, because there have been a few devs on livestreams that have hella disrespected the player base.

[@Chris_M_Romero]

There's no such thing as a worst killer. There's no such thing as a weak killer. Every killer is op because of the mere fact that they are faster than the survivors, making every mistake they make irrelevant and being stupidly different for survivors. One mistake is all it takes for them to be eliminated from the match and dragging all their teammates with them. That without counting the increasing numbers of anti loop killers. Anti loop it's the most bs mechanic in the game. Looping it's literally the only tool survivors have to escape. It should be pretty impossible to kill a survivor, but the devs push the killers goal to 4k. Then there's the killers that refuse to play the game and just camp the first survivor they catch and snowball from there i.e. raised hatchet huntress and hill camping slingers to name a couple. And one of the most ridiculous things in the whole environment of the game is how the devs wrote the survivors as slaves and killers as an elite. Like I'm surprised multimillion franchises are handing over their ips to be slaves. I hope BhVR goes bankrupt and other franchise emerges where the heroes of horror games are the focal point and where they can drag the villains through the mud.

[@SweetLeavesXbox1]

This comment is extremely bias. DBD META has always been a 4man squad. If we was talking about every Killer being OP due to speed. Then why don't hardly any Killer preform extremely well againts comp players? Also, why are Killers tunneling if it's so easy?? This video shows that other people have different opinions depending on their gameplay. Your opinion screams Survivor main only. Since you don't respect how HARD the game is when playing Killer. Your theory, since Killers are a TAD faster, that means their all OP.. which is insanely false. Your pathing, mindgames and map knowledge is key to winning games. Don't seem like your any good at any of that if simple speed is a problem for you. Survivors have loops, tiles, 3 other team mates & several powerful builds. Some of these strats include 2 Survivors. So how can you possibly speak about how OP Killers are when your not playing at an optimal level???

[@Chris_M_Romero]

@SweetLeavesXbox1 what an insane and deranged idea that you think that swf is the meta. Solo queue is the standard. Having just 1 person to play with it's a highly rare event, coordinationg the schedule of 3 other working adults, it's absolutely unreasonable. But it doesn't surprises me coming from a killer main. And ah yes, the simple task of pathing, ah yes, it's so easy to get stuck in weird corners and lose all your speed against an enemy that is faster than you, in the middle of a dead zone, it's so simple. It's a walk on the park while playing as a survivor made of led who can't spin nearly as fast as the killer. When a survivor complains about playing at suboptimal conditions we always get the "git gud". When killers complain about the same, BhVR nerfs survivor perks. It's even more bs that you completely disregarded something mentioned in the video: BhVR insists in incentivating survivors to throw matches for stupid challenges. You have to stand still for 90 seconds against an enemy that is faster than you which is ridiculous and the terror radius isn't even directional, so most of the time you end up running directly into the killer. I play in the south american servers, which are in Brazil. I'm in Chile so the ping is absolutely fvcking sh1t, and BhVR never addresses it. It would as simple as reducing the size of the survivor's hit box. And lastly, killers tunnel because they're lazy and tunneling is the path of least resistance.

[@SweetLeavesXbox1]

@Chris_M_Romero Do you or do you not agree that a swf is the most efficient tactic available?? It's definitely not solo so idk wtf your bringing that up for. Btw, I have over 5k hours into Survivor & about 1k into Killer. I called you out for being bias. Uno reverse don't work when your making no sense.

[@TootenTV]

Whew this made my head hurt.

[@SweetLeavesXbox1]

@Chris_M_Romero Read the rest of the garbage you typed. It's not the killers fault that survivors fk around to do challenges. Personally don't give af how anyone feels about that since it's behavior. Why TF bring that up? Why can't most killer beat comp players? Every killer is faster in your 2 year old mind. So how is it possible that comp players live againts damn near every killer MOST trials??? Your theory of "oh he's slightly faster, every killer is OP" is a complete joke. I wanna test it and see how good of a killer you are. Most Survivor main only NOOBS like yourself SUCK AT PLAYING KILLER... I MEAN ABSOLUTELY SUCKSSSS!!! But still say Killers are OP... OK @$$ clown whatever.

[@Chris_M_Romero]

No you're wrong. You don't NEED to tunnel, you need to lose.