Why Debuffs are MORE IMPORTANT than Buffs

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Red Evony

Red Evony

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@ken3051
@ken3051 4 ай бұрын
Aka, you continue to impress me with not only your ability to break it down, but your willingness to share the information with others! Thank you, Preacher Aka!!!
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, and I'm glad you enjoyed it ☺️ 🙏
@LarryHairelson
@LarryHairelson 4 ай бұрын
Preacher Aka, no need to convert me, I’ve believed in this concept for a long time. I have a couple Ziskas and several Baldwins as sub generals. Ground attack debuff is SO hard to get! Having strong debuffs make you able to punch above your weight. Great video!!
@jkc3640
@jkc3640 4 ай бұрын
even if there are no 3000% debuff players, you only need 1700% debuff to drag the big players to their knees!
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Right now, I think the strongest players in the game are around 4000% buffs, so 2000% debuffs would be the highest required. And I agree that if you have 1700% debuffs, that would be enough to defend against most players. But even getting that 1700% is extremely difficult 😅 Which is why I think every reasonable increase in debuffs is worth getting, and more valuable than increasing buffs 😇
@rsimpson69
@rsimpson69 4 ай бұрын
Or at least to make your 2k buff get more done
@Otter555
@Otter555 4 ай бұрын
What your saying is wasting -400😂
@shakilahmed8992
@shakilahmed8992 4 ай бұрын
I agree with Aka...Viper, Caramoor, Tae, Neo and few more have around 4700% buff. And 4200-4400% buffs are very regular nowadays...
@ScratchTillUDance
@ScratchTillUDance 4 ай бұрын
Just wait till k50 comes out
@sherree1663
@sherree1663 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. You confirmed my position. I've been focusing on defense and Debuffs.
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear that 😊 From my own experience, I can confirm that focusing on debuffs will benefit you for a very long time 👍👍
@openmythirdeye
@openmythirdeye 4 ай бұрын
Good video. Debuffs are a balance. You don't need 3k% debuffs when people are sending 4k% seige. Run it up to the max 50%, then focus on other debuffs so they are maximized
@andreimicle
@andreimicle 4 ай бұрын
Very very true. I am mashing the seals, military academy, duty generals, senate generals getting them to 10 stars...14 seats opening 16 tomorrow...my siege debuff is 1800...I 50% debuffed a siege rally where the k44 had 3.6k buffs...I could have higher debuffs but I don't know...I am focusing on the right side of the MA. I'm a very low coiner...less than 3k over 2 years...5.3b keep on 983...I am having problems since I don't get hit in svs or battlefields anymore....my defense buffs are under 2k at k39 which I feel are small...siege is 1.9k ranged almost 1.8k...
@MrAdam-ry2rh
@MrAdam-ry2rh 4 ай бұрын
Once I got to the point that all my important debuffs were between 1,000 and 1,500%, I stopped worrying about them so much; cause I found that I was halving peoples buffs almost every time. Or at least 9 of 10 times. So at that point, I shifted back over to getting my range attack & siege hp buffs as high as possible for my defense.
@umsalsabeel7285
@umsalsabeel7285 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much Preacher AKA for all useful videos has much informations. ( Ahmed AZAZI )
@JAVIERRODRIGUEZ-ct5wr
@JAVIERRODRIGUEZ-ct5wr 4 ай бұрын
I'm a T1 player, so I've witnessed what 1200% debuff can do against 2500% buff. It still hurts, but the power exchange works in my favor. Very useful knowing 1700% mark could be reachable ✊🏻 Would be good to break down acha gear and their upgraded newest versions for sub generals and see which pieces give the best debuf for every troop type for defense. Wonderful video, Thankyou Preacher Aka.🫶🏻🍻
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
You are a believer 😁😁 Thank you 🙏 I have covered debuff gear in previous videos, so maybe you might want to check those out 😉👍
@Triggerfish70
@Triggerfish70 4 ай бұрын
Helm, chest, legs, boots.... just pick the piece with two buffs instead of one. The single debuff ring hits archer, so lead with that, but add a few of the double debuff ring to balance debuffs/address shortcomings. Lead with axe, add a few spears to fine tune.
@JAVIERRODRIGUEZ-ct5wr
@JAVIERRODRIGUEZ-ct5wr 3 ай бұрын
​@@RedEvonyWonderful! Thankyou again Aka🫶🏻🍻
@Triggerfish70
@Triggerfish70 4 ай бұрын
The importance of debuffs is why T1 traps and bloated T1 keeps (T1 meat wall) should spend their blood of ares on sub gens before duty gens. The in city percent buffs aren't going to help much when you don't have many millions of each high tier. For quite a while now I have gone hard on ascending sub gens from the Tavern. During the Trial of Knights event I take one or two sub gens as high as I can go to complete red stars (no partial) then spend any left over bloods to take each duty general to one star (low cost for first star, decent return). I've got great defense. If I don't ghost ground or Cav I can take a 4,500% atk solo (yes, I've done this) and break even on SVS points (or better). If I've ghosted then I win big.
@richardsutton296
@richardsutton296 4 ай бұрын
I am an avid and loyal follower..thank you for your time and making things clear
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for your support ☺️🙏
@michelleoli4201
@michelleoli4201 4 ай бұрын
Preacher Aka 😂! I love this video. Its been a while since I've focused on the game but your videos are always so great to watch! 🤩😘 thank you very much!
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
I'm really glad to hear that. Thank you very much ☺️ 🙏
@steveover6253
@steveover6253 4 ай бұрын
Best teacher aka, you. Make it fun and knowledgeable.
@sarahharris8336
@sarahharris8336 4 ай бұрын
Hi Aka De buffs are certainly priority and yours are the boss !! Don't ever hit AKA it's like hitting a brick wall 😂🥰
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
😂😂 Thank you ☺️🙏
@legion2440
@legion2440 4 ай бұрын
any problems solving not same depending on circustances and conditions, and that depdends on where you at now for buffs/debuffs, which buffs you pick, attacking/defending/universal, how often you take defences or solo hits, what debuffs comes from sub or unconditional
@Anime_LegendsYT
@Anime_LegendsYT 4 ай бұрын
I love and appreciate your videos as always but I have some questions pls... No. 1, is it better to have multiple copies of some generals on your sub cities or different types? Also, who would you recommend as an assistant for Hestia between Mordred, Zhao Yun and Poligenus, the purpose being PvP?
@lennartvdsluijs
@lennartvdsluijs 2 ай бұрын
Best intro so far lol 😅
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 2 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it 😁
@lennartvdsluijs
@lennartvdsluijs 2 ай бұрын
@@RedEvony brother, we are on rhe same humor page. 😀😎. Abd thank you for delivering valleuable content.
@JamesDeLaFuente-s4n
@JamesDeLaFuente-s4n 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your videos Aka
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Glad to help 😁👍
@jkc3640
@jkc3640 4 ай бұрын
also advantage of debuffs on sub cities, they are invisible and cannot be scouted out :)
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Yes, that is very true 👍
@darkknight569
@darkknight569 4 ай бұрын
We got preacher Aka before GTA 6 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️ 🔥🔥🔥
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
😂😂👍👍
@rsimpson69
@rsimpson69 4 ай бұрын
The great things about defending is that you can have both sub city debuffs and reinforcements. Attackers have to choose one or the other
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Yes, that's true, but attackers can come in numbers. Filling up a rally with 8-12 people can be quite devastating for most players 😅
@rsimpson69
@rsimpson69 4 ай бұрын
@@RedEvony can you friend me in the game so I can share reports with you? Just got a couple good ones in CoC
@jamescromer550
@jamescromer550 4 ай бұрын
Preach it, Aka! 👍
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Yes Sir 😁😁
@EvonyTipsTricks
@EvonyTipsTricks 4 ай бұрын
Very Good Video as usual ! 😊 As a K33 that I am , I got stuck in the same mindset as you in building debuff. I'm stuck at -500%ish but slowly slowly build up my debuff. Focusing on Achamenidae, Senate, Duty Officers, Sub Generals, Ideal Land (lev 3 as of now). Until half a year ago I had only 5 subs but have 6 now and will get two more closest months. Debuff generals I have a couple but no sub slots. O_o // Best Regards, Patrick
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Patrick 😊🙏 I'm glad to hear that you are trying to get more sub slots. Having more subs will be a tremendous boost to your defence 💪 From where you are now, if you manage to get up to 7-8, that would be awesome!! Keep working at it!! 😇💪
@EvonyTipsTricks
@EvonyTipsTricks 4 ай бұрын
@@RedEvony Thanks, yes I will get my 7th now in a month or two, will get another from the ranking thingy I'm just 20 places to reach next level. I am already happy with my almost 900 M troops in my little K33, I have took off all castle decorations so the big guys K40-45 most of the time blind hit me. It's always same fun. Now CoC starts in two hours, let's see if I can perform as good as I did last two seasons there. But I have messed up my gear in my pvp generals and subs. Trying to get set debuffs in my subs instead of having uneven number of gear on a general. I'm still using Queen B (awakened, 8.4 M) and Isaac Brock on my wall. They perform good together / way better than Leonidas and Marshal in my personal tests. Thanks for you always answering, I appreciate that, alot. 👍🙂 If it's ok, I sent you a friend request on Discord maybe 2 months ago. 🌻 // Best Regards, Patrick
@leighasplet642
@leighasplet642 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great video. Could you please do a video about stamina. I know Sanada fully upgraded leading Nathanael works, but Maria and Nathanael Nathanaels' main skill is blocked. Are there any other ways to save stamina
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
I plan to do that soon 😉👍
@SolidSnake1
@SolidSnake1 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the Video!! Ive been looking for that kind of video. Question: I have all my sub gens geared up, now im at the point of ascending them (wall gen and attacking gens done), ive got premium gens like baldwin and hojo, but i know i will never be able to ascend them... so what should i do? do i use them regardless? or do I keep my AJ and harald and ascend them one by one?
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoyed it ☺️🙏 Actually, I'd recommend you do neither. I think doing duty generals first would be more beneficial. The highest sub generals I have ascended are only 1 star 😂 That being said though, If you do want to upgrade your sub generals, then it's a matter of what debuffs you want, and not the ascension. So in that case, it might be perfectly fine to keep your Hojo and Baldwin, even though you can't ascend them, as long as they are providing you with the right debuffs you want 😉👍
@savethehumans7460
@savethehumans7460 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the share Aka007. Did you just get a bunch of new subcity’s?
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Thanks bro ☺️🙏 No, but I finally upgraded my native sub to gold 😇
@savethehumans7460
@savethehumans7460 4 ай бұрын
@@RedEvony I only asked because of their level. Got to keep two builders going all the time. 🤪
@Dunkingdad1
@Dunkingdad1 4 ай бұрын
Important that can only debuff 50% of enemy’s buffs. And that flat refines cannot be debuffed
@mokranehoussem8627
@mokranehoussem8627 4 ай бұрын
You dont have to get 3k debuff just 1,5k will be enough and more buff to resist against rally . And yes for solo debuffs are more important compared against rally
@atiliochume6226
@atiliochume6226 4 ай бұрын
Aka I would love to have your advice on how to play against big guys. I'm k33 currently on server 481 and I would like to be able to defend maximum k37 attack. What would you recommend me?
@jdsilvaca
@jdsilvaca 4 ай бұрын
I had two Harald in my sub cities. Down to just one now.
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
That's cool. Hope you switched him out for someone nice 😁
@rsimpson69
@rsimpson69 4 ай бұрын
I love Harald
@jdsilvaca
@jdsilvaca 4 ай бұрын
@@RedEvony yes, Hojo
@littlefinkle7757
@littlefinkle7757 4 ай бұрын
💯 Professor Aka
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
😁🙏
@ShiuE577
@ShiuE577 4 ай бұрын
Preach brother Preach
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Yes bro. Preacher Aka in the house 😁😁
@62867ed
@62867ed 4 ай бұрын
Amen!!
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Amen!! 😇🙏
@MatthewGee-rq7lg
@MatthewGee-rq7lg 4 ай бұрын
Aka how do you make such excellent videos legend
@marcuscopeland1250
@marcuscopeland1250 4 ай бұрын
Love the video debuffs all the way
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Woohoo 🥳🥳
@marcuscopeland1250
@marcuscopeland1250 4 ай бұрын
@@RedEvony I played coa yesterday and was hit with a ground rally and the rally spotter had 4100 buff I was zeroed of course
@bryanrocker5033
@bryanrocker5033 4 ай бұрын
Buffs and Debuffs are important for attacking/defending against your peers and near peers. If you are hit by somebody 3, 4 or even 5 keeps higher than you, all the debuffs in the world will not make you any less zeroed. In fact during the BOG this pas wed, there was a K37 with 100M t1's and 155M troops total, 3 of us rallied him one K38 and 2 K35s and zeroed him in one hit. Imagine getting hit by a K42 wth 2000+ buffs. Debuffs are essential to surviving, but only to a point. I myself focus on my debuffs and I am doing decent, buffs, well there is only so much I can do until K36.
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Actually, I got hit by a K42 this SvS and survived it easily 😁😁 Well, you might feel that way now, but trust me, I can tell you 100% that focusing on debuffs the right way will help you out more than you can imagine 😇 You will become a believer 😁😁
@bryanrocker5033
@bryanrocker5033 4 ай бұрын
@@RedEvony I max out my debuffs as much as possible......
@DanielGibbons-v9k
@DanielGibbons-v9k 4 ай бұрын
I agree. The point is to narrow the spread between your buffs/debuffs and the opponents buffs/debuffs. Debuffs have no special magic. All-Stars and Chalons are a different game than regular battlefield and svs. The buff and debuff differentials are much greater. BTW, a K42 with 2000 buffs would be terrible player for that keep size. Military academy and Senate open up a lot of buffs.
@queenlip6152
@queenlip6152 4 ай бұрын
20% buffs because I'm a 90 lb weakling and need those muscles to solo monsters etc. 😅
@Otter555
@Otter555 4 ай бұрын
I'd like to hear your opinion on whales not using debuff and using solo rally to hit keeps.
@Otter555
@Otter555 4 ай бұрын
By this I mean they set a rally so they can use their in rally buffs and sacrifice the debuff.
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
They can afford to do that because their buffs are so high that they will overwhelm a.lot of players, even without their subs. But don't forget that most of these players have gone very far with their research in the military academy. So they already have a ton of attacking debuffs and might not need their subs.
@muc536alt1
@muc536alt1 4 ай бұрын
So should we use generals with debuffs on wall instead of generals with buffs ?
@realBarbLife
@realBarbLife 4 ай бұрын
when you first showed your monarch preset gear around the 8 minute mark and gave the example of ground monarch gear with enemy ranged troop attack debuff... you actually want enemy mounted troop attack debuff for the ground troop preset. just an fyi
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Fair point 👍 but I think differently on that. The way I see it is that I wouldn't want to be sending my ground March in where there are a lot of cavs. I'd be sending it into archers, and for that, debuffing the archer attack would be more helpful. But to your point, if you have a strong enough ground March that you can solo keeps with ground, then having the mounted attack debuff would make sense since the keeps would have lots of cavs in there 😇👍
@trptkrazed
@trptkrazed 4 ай бұрын
If you had the resources to do so, would you add at least 2 pieces of of either Abbas or August gear that has good debuff stats to your subs?
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Yes, I certainly would. But in my case, they would have to be supremacy civ gear pieces 😅
@Jseerockhead40
@Jseerockhead40 4 ай бұрын
A lion can chase down an antelope with a broken leg faster then an un-injured one
@ebonyman23
@ebonyman23 4 ай бұрын
What are Neos debuffs???
@IamEnygma
@IamEnygma 4 ай бұрын
I am now a believer, amen!
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Yes you are bro 😁👍
@rossjones9494
@rossjones9494 2 ай бұрын
Where can I find debuffs?
@littleozarksfarmstead
@littleozarksfarmstead 4 ай бұрын
AMEN!
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
😁🙏
@mariusmau8349
@mariusmau8349 4 ай бұрын
What is better for sub general buff ore debuff ?
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Debuff 👍
@jdsilvaca
@jdsilvaca 4 ай бұрын
Preacher DeBuff!!!
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
😁😁👍👍
@maverick1776.
@maverick1776. 4 ай бұрын
I think the other way....buffs are literally unlimited, while debuffs will only debuff 50% of the enemy. I would understand if there was no limit to what you can debuff, but the fact is debuffs are limited.
@jarvel4194
@jarvel4194 4 ай бұрын
Amen!! 😆
@jdsilvaca
@jdsilvaca 4 ай бұрын
So, dumb question here, my gear for sub-city generals, I want the gear that has "in-city" buffs, correct??
@stevenmah2070
@stevenmah2070 4 ай бұрын
Gear from ache & civ gear has innate debuff ability, you just need a debuff general to wear those gear, most debuff have certain type of debuff that specific for certain debuff general
@jdsilvaca
@jdsilvaca 4 ай бұрын
@@stevenmah2070 ok, thank you
@Stephen-ro5jc
@Stephen-ro5jc 4 ай бұрын
For subs, debuff is far important than buff. Buff only affects the small number of troops from that sub. Ideally, you need to start putting full sets of achae gear on all your subs. Focus on debuffing range first. Classic is the Axe, Courageous Helmet, Courageous Armor, Fearless Leg Armor, Courageous Boots, and the Courageous Ring. If you are bigger (K35+) and start facing more ground attacks instead of ranged, mix in 2 or 3 of Spears and the Fearless Ring to increase your ground debuffs. Later on, you can upgrade achae sets to Parthian sets. It is important that you do the upgrades as sets, so you keep the full set debuffs. Similarly, you neeed to get sub mayors that debuff ranged at first and then put some in later that debuff ground. Current group is 3 Baldwins, Darius, Jan Karol, 6-star Amr ibn al-As, Mark Antony, Hojo, and the Nordic Barbarian King.
@stevenmah2070
@stevenmah2070 4 ай бұрын
@@Stephen-ro5jc those are mostly premium general & not everyone could get those unless you are gonna coin big, I would recommend to get debuff gen from tavern which way way cheaper, like Margeret, Andrew Jackson, Nero, Catherine, Harald
@jdsilvaca
@jdsilvaca 4 ай бұрын
@@Stephen-ro5jc awesome, thanks for the advice!
@RiotGrrrrlEvony
@RiotGrrrrlEvony 4 ай бұрын
Flats and debuff before t1s (for t1 traps)
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Exactly! 👍👍
@RiotGrrrrlEvony
@RiotGrrrrlEvony 4 ай бұрын
@@RedEvony not that I know anything about t1 traps, I'm not a trap guise 😇😙😆
@littleozarksfarmstead
@littleozarksfarmstead 4 ай бұрын
​@@RedEvony Would you mind making a video about explaining the different types of Keeps? Fortess, Ghoster, Hybrid, The Trap, etc. What are the advantages and disadvantages of each one? Which fighting styles fit each type? Which wall generals are best for each type? My server (1251) has an alliance that is pushing it's teammates to build fortresses without any explanations besides a possible server merger sometime in the future. 🤷🏼
@chefrd381
@chefrd381 4 ай бұрын
Amen 🙏🏼 😂
@DanielGibbons-v9k
@DanielGibbons-v9k 4 ай бұрын
Do you still think the same after all-stars?
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Yup, 120% 😁👍
@Otter555
@Otter555 4 ай бұрын
I got 1700% siege attack atleast 😅. 3400% biggest ive seen hit me.
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
Nice debuffs 🥳🥳💪💪
@Otter555
@Otter555 4 ай бұрын
To my point all debuffs are not the same. Siege Attack is easiest 😅. Give it another year and you will be obsessed with Siege Def and hp debuffs😅
@Evonywithme
@Evonywithme 4 ай бұрын
Bro i want to sale my Evony account
@jfrie63780
@jfrie63780 4 ай бұрын
Sadly, unless you coin for the civ gear or premium sub gens, your debuffs won't really matter much. Unless you fully ascend the tavern gens and even that becomes a chore for f2p players, you're not going to max debuff most players. Either not enough boa or gems to ascend both attack and sub generals. The game is becoming more lopsided each event for even those who coin moderately.
@stevenmah2070
@stevenmah2070 4 ай бұрын
This case I do agree, it's very hard to get the civ gear frag & think of other area that need to improve the buff & debuff, f2p is not have the previlage to get much better attack or defense
@luckystarz9845
@luckystarz9845 4 ай бұрын
Not entirely true. There are realy good tavern generals and important note is to think about what stats you actually need to debuff.
@jfrie63780
@jfrie63780 4 ай бұрын
​@@luckystarz9845 Unless you coin you end up with basic generals, little to no civ gear, less sub cities and over all lower debuffs. Once you face the 3k + corners you realize Evony killed the f2p players and is slowly killing the low to mid level coiners in the game.
@luckystarz9845
@luckystarz9845 4 ай бұрын
@@jfrie63780 I'm 100% f2p in 120B alliance and I can easily defend alone multiple times from 3k solos. I prefer using brain instead of wallet.
@Israel_il
@Israel_il 4 ай бұрын
Surely you can't find a 3k% debuff player, simply because there's no 6k buffs players around just yet 😆
@DanielGibbons-v9k
@DanielGibbons-v9k 4 ай бұрын
Once we start seeing players with 6000 buffs, we'll start seeing 3000 debuffs. We can't see 3000 debuffs before that.
@RedEvony
@RedEvony 4 ай бұрын
I understand your point, but I disagree with it slightly. Right now, the strongest players in the game are around 4000% buffs. So my question is, how many people have 2000% debuffs or more? I would imagine very few people The point I made in the video about 3000% debuffs was to highlight the fact that buffs increase much faster than debuffs do. That is one of the reasons why increases in debuffs are more valuable 😇
@noelalicozerrinkocovali2826
@noelalicozerrinkocovali2826 4 ай бұрын
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@paulramirez1774
@paulramirez1774 3 ай бұрын
People still playing this game🤦🏻‍♂️
@louisbarton688
@louisbarton688 4 ай бұрын
These videos are pointless the game is pointless unless you spend 1000s of dollars your not gonna compete against someone who does try debuffing 4k buffs when your f2p good luck on that one 😅
@littlefinkle7757
@littlefinkle7757 4 ай бұрын
Not true at all. Our server has a pure T1 trap player that defeats the solo attack of k45s all the time. Always scoring positive by a couple B points each svs. It can be done with parinthian gears and great refines. Just be patient and do what is possible one day at a time.
@louisbarton688
@louisbarton688 4 ай бұрын
N play the end game attacking and defending
@jamesmoody9890
@jamesmoody9890 4 ай бұрын
I can see your point boss but let me ask you how you know that there's no one with 3000% debuff cause you only see Hafe of your debuffs on a report an you'd have to have someone with 6000% buff to see if you are debuffing hafe 🫣🫣
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