Why did jesus descend to earth when he did? 4th Century Christian Arnobius tries to answer the issue

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

More on Arnobius in the new year folks :) As ever, any suggestions for new videos please let me know in the comments.

[@thousand1183]

Patreon supporter and pagan here 👋 loving your work. Just wanting to spread some support, looking forward to listening to this asap!

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

You rock 😁Thx partner and thx for your support. Creating videos can be time consuming so always appreciate the backing!

[@svijetlanradov8235]

Always glad go see a new video of yours!

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

Many thx friend! Appreciate the support!

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[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

Hey hey thx bro. Just wish I was a natural at video-making so I could get them out faster.

[@gphilipvirgil355]

Super… per usual. Really look forward to your presentations. Thank you.

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

🫡 Appreciate you taking time to watch!

[@freedomclub6969]

I like before watching. This amazing channel indeed needs more views!

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

Ha ha appreciate the 'vote of confidence' my friend! The channel is growing - hopefully even faster in the new year!

[@freedomclub6969]

Maybe a live QNA could help?@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361

[@sarahsarah2534]

Thank you so much for this Christmas present. I always delight in hearing the hilarious arguments of ancient Christians. Looking forward to the next installments in the series.

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

Thx as ever for watching! Definitely more coming up on Arnobius in the new year!

[@hedgiecc]

Very good arguments! You sent Arnobius packing 🙂

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

Thx! Will be covering more of Arnobius’ arguments in the new year

[@Vyom4676]

A great christmas gift,as usual amazing analysis sir. 🙏

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

Thank you kindly!

[@Vyom4676]

​@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361Thank you sir for this amazing video,these answers seem to be the same which the apologists still repeat.

[@ZerozenOnes]

Oooh, what a great find your channel is. Excellent content, many thanks! I am particularly interested in the way Christian apologetics changed over time. Do you have a video where this is covered more in depth or a source you can point me to?

[@sundancezb]

Cheers Flavius Claudius Julianus... Love your channel and the appreciation you put on Pagan history revolving around Rome/Julian. I'm curious, have you ever read 'The Diegesis: Being a Discovery of the Origin, Evidences, and Early History of Christianity' by Robert Taylor? The content is right up your alley and Taylor's take on this subject is second to none, hence why his work was banned and his reputation attacked. Look forward to seeing more of your videos to come.

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

Thanks, glad you like the content! No, I haven't read Robert Taylor's book but on your recommendation, I've just downloaded the Kindle version - really looking forward to reading it :) Regarding apostate priests, I would really recommend 'Testament: A Priest's Dying Confession' by Jean Meslier.

[@aldiboronti]

Arnobius is a fascinating writer, he has some really strange stuff in his writings.

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

Quite so. It's interesting that many point to the Diocletian persecution as being very harsh towards Christians. But Arnobius like others seems to have been quite free to practice his faith and write his book denouncing paganism and openly promoting Christianity at just this time.

[@henkstersmacro-world]

👍👍👍

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

Thx my friend!

[@wickhunter7733]

The Jesus myth wasn't well thought out or It was comedy with God being the biggest clown in all this.

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

Thx for watching! Always find it odd that Paul was more enterprising and more successful in spreading Christianity than God (Jesus) himself. I find I have more respect for Paul.

[@Vyom4676]

​@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361what an amazing observation sir,also wanted to know why did the christians especially paul used to appropriate customs(spoke like a jew to the jews etc)in order to gain more converts,where they so weak as to argue their point of view ?

[@EdwardM-t8p]

There was a fourth critique of Christianity that was also a history of the Roman Empire that survived until the early enlightenment when French scholars inadvertently alerted the Vatican to it, and the prelates had the history promptly burnt. :^(

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

Not heard of that. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

[@EdwardM-t8p]

​@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361 I wish I could remember the name of the Roman historian though. I only remember what the church high officials said about it: "...has been committed to the flames."

[@eudidjen3083]

I often see the claim that ambitious Pagan kings would cynically adopt Christianity to advance their own power rather than out of genuine belief How true is this do you think? And what advantage would converting to Christianity have given a pagan king anyway? Could be interesting subject matter for a video Great work as always!

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

Thx for watching! Yes it was the case in Northern Europe with various pagan kings. Conversion to Christianity for a pagan kIng or prince would have been a pre-requisite if marrying a Christian princess for instance - or certainly strong pressure would have been applied before and after marriage to convert. The Frankish King Clovis is a good example. The Goths, Vandals and other tribes also quickly adopted Christianity. Prince Vladimir of the Kieven Rus wanted closer ties with Byzantium. Similarily so with the Bulgar kIng, Conversion made them acceptable and opened doors in terms of trade and marriage alliances. Great subject for a video - I'll put that on the to-do list!

[@anyob]

​​@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361Spot on reply, people also fail to understand that Islam spread in the same way but with a bit more violence against much tougher opponents in comparison to Europe, Africa and the Americas and not because they saw the truth in Mohamed's cult.

[@kaidendavaul7924]

I loved this video

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

Thank you! More videos coming up!

[@derauserwahlte5402]

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[@mybiblechurchnews]

He should have came when Adam and Eve ate the fruit 🍑 🍅🍇🍈🍉🍊🥭🍌🍋🍍🍎🍏🍑🍒🍓

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

That would make complete sense! Or even earlier and have stopped the snake!

[@lovecoversall-e9x]

Ooh that's a good one. I always wondered who allowed that snake 🐍 in but didn't kick him out, when Adam and Eve was told to hit the road Jack and don't come back no more...😂😂😂😂😂😂​@@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361

[@miltonbates6425]

So much intellectual dishonesty in your assessment. Where to even begin? You said that the pagans were a minority in the time of Constantine and his successors so that their was little reason for Christian apologetics, but fail to acknowledge that a small but vocal minority can have outsized political influence and power over public policy. You also state that Jesus could've came just before "the end of time" in refuting the claim of an apologist that the timing is not of major concern because of the nature of eternity. Eternity has no "end of time". There are several other non-sequitor takes on your part, but I don't have the time or interest in listing them all.

[@clovergrass9439]

Believe in our religion of peace and love or lights out for you. Lol. No thanks.

[@FlaviusClaudiusJulianus361]

A divine being - knowing his followers would become intolerant and that his religion would result in forced conversions and the Inquisition etc - would surely have aborted his mission I suspect.