Why did Leupold discontinue the LCO?

  Рет қаралды 617,650

Hop

Hop

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 762
@aethertech
@aethertech 2 жыл бұрын
So, not drunk Leupold is like a regular gun company. Drunk Leupold is Kel-Tec?
@A-G-F-
@A-G-F- 2 жыл бұрын
Kel-Tec isnt a regular gun company
@MotoCampAdventure
@MotoCampAdventure 2 жыл бұрын
@@A-G-F- Kind of exactly what he just said.
@JohnBlaze505
@JohnBlaze505 2 жыл бұрын
Kel-Tec is drunk Kel-Tec
@y0h0p38
@y0h0p38 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnBlaze505 Drunk Kel-Tec is Kel-Tek
@leroyjenkins4811
@leroyjenkins4811 2 жыл бұрын
Saying Drunk Leupold is Kel-Tec is unfair. Kel-Tec gun’s don’t work and they’re held together with bolts and screws, clamshell style. Drunk Leupold stuff works and is held together with much better stuff than a bunch of bolts and screws. It works very well. You’ll just end up being extremely frustrated using Drunk Leupold products and wish you had spent your money on something else. Let me be clear. Kel-Tec products do not work. The designs are cheap, poorly executed, and they break. The designs look cheap, feel cheap, feel like they’re constructed from cheap materials, and don’t handle abuse well.
@dasauto7346
@dasauto7346 2 жыл бұрын
This combo looks dumbass and impractical. I love it. Wish we had more American optics that did fun and good things.
@scottdpugnificent
@scottdpugnificent 2 жыл бұрын
@Brookie it brings back the concept that HK had with the g36 carry handle optic, and its faster than a flip up magnifier or lpvo.(in theory) if the eye box was forgiving it.
@MrObeast44
@MrObeast44 2 жыл бұрын
I was a skeptic myself until I got some trigger time with the D evo. Man let me tell ya it was amazing once you got it down. Imagine going from nonmagnified to magnified without having to change anything with your cheek weld, you just look a little lower.
@JustCantGetRight
@JustCantGetRight 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrObeast44 Exactly... I've only fired this thing in Virtual Reality... BUT... it immediately became my go-to just because it was far better for my application than a pivoting magnifier or even an LPVO. This concept could have been as incredible irl as it was in vr with just some more work put behind it.
@jkellyid
@jkellyid 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrObeast44 my feelings too. Cool piece of kit. Insane price tag
@MrCrabs231
@MrCrabs231 2 жыл бұрын
I think the concept behind it seems good itself, we just need a better example to improve upon it
@OperatorVanta
@OperatorVanta 2 жыл бұрын
Leopold really should try the D-EVO concept out again, along with the HAMR and LCO. They could REALLY do some good if they put out a second generation or new sights with similar concepts.
@swiftaudi
@swiftaudi 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the hamr and the lco. I still own the lco. It is clear and I never noticed the dot flicker. I do think it’s probably a pretty fragile optic though. Battery lives is fine on mine but it sits in my safe. The hamr I actually owned two and while I liked them I really wanted an lpvo so I sold them. Wish they would make a second gen hamr. The lco has way too much comp now to even make a second gen unless it comes in around $500.
@saltysaty8686
@saltysaty8686 2 жыл бұрын
The devo is an awsome idea. I'd love a instant red dot to a 6x... but actually using it.... well if you can't use it...
@robertsears8323
@robertsears8323 Жыл бұрын
The D-EVO is the only good magnifier ever made.
@pramusetyakanca1552
@pramusetyakanca1552 Жыл бұрын
@@saltysaty8686, how do you think they could improve upon the D-EVO's design? I hope it's just a next step, instead of an overhaul. I really love the design as it is.
@bezimienny_andzej6425
@bezimienny_andzej6425 11 ай бұрын
@@pramusetyakanca1552 3,5 instead of 6 times magnification - the author of the video proposed 4x, but with 3,5 they would have even more margin for improvement, since lower magnification optics are generally more forgiving.
@pnuemagger
@pnuemagger 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Leupold... never change. LOL. Let’s talk about the VX6 and VX6HD 1-6x scopes... true 1X, offered in a nuclear bright firedot or a traditionally illuminated etched BDC reticle (depending on your preference), crystal clear glass Leupold is famous for, shake awake for crazy battery life (for an LPVO of that era) and feather weight (I think they were like 15oz) ... it was probably one of the 3 best LPVOs on the market at the time and to this day snagging a used VX6 is one of the best bang for the buck LPVOs you can find and one of the lightest to boot. So of course Leupold discontinued it. Oh, but the VX-6 story don’t stop there. Fast forward to 2022 when not only quality 1-8x are prevalent but a handful of quality 1-10x LPVOs hits the market... Leupold reintroduces the VX6 1-6x with basically no meaningful changes. At this point I’m convinced Leupold is a money laundering operation that periodically has to control their cash flow by making bizarre marketing choice or else they’ll draw unwanted scrutiny to profitability.
@paul1
@paul1 2 жыл бұрын
Make this make sense: “The VX-6 is the enhanced version of the VX-7 and is now the flagship scope from Leupold.”
@davida375AI
@davida375AI 2 жыл бұрын
But Leupold's ultimate LPVO is the Mark 8 CQBSS 1.1-8x24 with the H-27d reticle it's just bad ass! Have one on the SCAR 17 and also on a 10.5" SBR/ACR. Love that that Mark 8!
@sackychin6267
@sackychin6267 2 жыл бұрын
@@davida375AII think they discontinued it?
@android61242
@android61242 2 жыл бұрын
Leupold survives by selling fudds gold ring scopes.
@kwiturbitchin5277
@kwiturbitchin5277 2 жыл бұрын
I’m definitely NOT a fudd, but when it comes to my hunting rifles, yes they get Leupolds. He is right about drunk Leupold though😂
@NACAM42
@NACAM42 2 жыл бұрын
Leupold is more American made than most scope companies and has the best warranty so it's not just fudds.
@ShortArmOfGod
@ShortArmOfGod 2 жыл бұрын
They have the same warranty as everyone else.
@NACAM42
@NACAM42 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShortArmOfGod Not true at all. In actual practice, Leupold will make sure you're taken care of at the end of the day where a lot of others will straight up ghost you.
@arguy3297
@arguy3297 2 жыл бұрын
@@NACAM42 most companies honor lifetime warranties. Leupold was the first thought
@brandonschwertley2723
@brandonschwertley2723 2 жыл бұрын
I remember Karl at InrangeTV using an LCO and a D-EVO for a little while and not liking the D-EVO for very similar reasons. I also remember him saying he would release a video review on it. This was 6+ years ago, and it never came out. Thankyou Hop for reviewing optics from my early adulthood that I never had the money to buy, and telling me to stay away from them. It still wont stop me from making other outdated purchases though and convincing myself it was worth the money.
@justinm.791
@justinm.791 2 жыл бұрын
@Brandon Schwertley Your comment made me chuckle and I can appreciate where your coming from...😂
@johnbeauvais3159
@johnbeauvais3159 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus! 6 years ago? Seriously? When the hell did I get old?
@rodiculous9464
@rodiculous9464 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen these for sale at deep discounts before, probably a lot on the used market too I would suspect
@gabemando7823
@gabemando7823 2 жыл бұрын
The front lens came out, just like in the freedom rds and delta point micro
@COLT6940
@COLT6940 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabemando7823 common complaint about holosun close emitter optic that chicom fanboys love to dimiss.
@Cmoth040
@Cmoth040 2 жыл бұрын
I had an opportunity to try out a CQT optic when our agency's entry team cross-trained with another. I was really impressed by the optical clarity, the true 1 power image, and the nearly zero scope outline. Seriously, it looked like you were gazing through a thin, dark halo. Light transmission was excellent and the reticle pattern was useful and uncluttered. I would have bought one, but my patrolman salary couldn't eat the near $1000 price tag, and that was 2003/2004 money. I still try to find one on the used market, but they're still priced high for what they are.
@williamflowers9435
@williamflowers9435 2 жыл бұрын
Saw one on EBay for about $850 not too long ago. There’s one now at $999.99 plus $35 s&h… maybe people into clone rifles but them at that price based off the one photo of a Delta/CAG guy with one a while ago
@davida375AI
@davida375AI 2 жыл бұрын
I have 5 CQ/T s and I love them. I might let you talk me out of one. They more or less just sit in the safe. 3 of the 5 are still new. (And I must disagree with this review on the LCO. I love the thing. Have 3 of those as well.)
@LiquidForce392
@LiquidForce392 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard rumblings that they have a plan for a Gen 2 LCO, makes me hopeful
@WHITEBELT44
@WHITEBELT44 2 жыл бұрын
Heard the same. But I’m assuming it’s years away
@Hoplopfheil
@Hoplopfheil 2 жыл бұрын
Heard the same but assuming it won't be good.
@mstngo
@mstngo 2 жыл бұрын
Gen 2 will be out this year. Has NV mode and gets rid of the 1/2 inch bolt on the side to mount. Better battery life. That's why they discontinued it.
@Colonel_Flanders
@Colonel_Flanders 2 жыл бұрын
@@mstngo blessings upon you
@tee.m7216
@tee.m7216 2 жыл бұрын
It was supposed to be announced at shot but I guess it was delayed again
@aquatica1193
@aquatica1193 2 жыл бұрын
Have always admired the LCO D-EVO combo but had never gotten the chance to shoot it. Appreciate the detailed breakdown of it all.
@JohnDoe-kt9em
@JohnDoe-kt9em 2 жыл бұрын
Best gun reviewer/story teller on KZbin. Not exaggerating
@Muddabitch
@Muddabitch 2 жыл бұрын
It’s all in the voice and delivery
@woodchuckcider1
@woodchuckcider1 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who doesn't shill a company's products is a great gun reviewer.
@jacobt1027
@jacobt1027 2 жыл бұрын
@@AnAxetoGrind Ian and Karl calling companies BS at shot-show gives me a lot of joy
@soulSSeekingbullet
@soulSSeekingbullet 2 жыл бұрын
That's Paul Harrell
@greglinsmythe3375
@greglinsmythe3375 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure that adding the “gun” qualifier is necessary. Hop is great.
@Motoboo_Marine
@Motoboo_Marine 2 жыл бұрын
As bad as the D Evo was, I have to admit it was pretty innovative. Definitely cool, just not practical.
@georgekromidas5097
@georgekromidas5097 2 жыл бұрын
It’s pretty good if you can get used to it which some can. Move your eyes down a bit and now your target is magnified. Can’t get faster than that but it’s not illuminated so I’d still prefer a regular LPVO with an offset.
@cgoins1993
@cgoins1993 2 жыл бұрын
It’s very practical. It just wasn’t executed well. It should be 1 single optic instead of 2 and instead of the 6x being an offset prism it should just be one straight piece at 6x with a piggyback red dot. Sure it would eliminate the ability to run an IR device at 12 o’clock and force people to run offset irons, but most people run offset irons with LPVOs anyway
@trevorbronson100
@trevorbronson100 2 жыл бұрын
I used to work at leupold for about ten years on the machine shop floor when this was being made. It was an interesting time.
@kdworak4754
@kdworak4754 2 жыл бұрын
so why did they discontinue it?
@trevorbronson100
@trevorbronson100 2 жыл бұрын
@@kdworak4754 cost of manufacturing it and not using a solid block of aluminum and then they out sourced the whole thing
@asalmon2112
@asalmon2112 2 жыл бұрын
I want to suck as bad at my marketing job as the Leupold folks or the sadists at Subaru who won’t make a WRX hatch
@ghostpunkkilla
@ghostpunkkilla 2 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Subaru owner with two wagons I understand this pain.
@Innes
@Innes 2 жыл бұрын
When the S203 came out they put a specific question on Subarus website “Will it come in a hatch? No.”
@easygordonnn
@easygordonnn 2 жыл бұрын
I aspire to be as great at my job as the Steyr and HK marketing teams. "F*ck your wants" and "You suck and we hate you" are brilliantly amazing marketing strategies that somehow get the job done.
@elsenorloco84
@elsenorloco84 2 жыл бұрын
Wrx hatch or wagon would be kush AF
@TEAMHUMAN1
@TEAMHUMAN1 2 жыл бұрын
Toyota GR Corolla is the car Subaru was meant to make
@FATMAN_tactical
@FATMAN_tactical 2 жыл бұрын
The LCO and a D-EVO seems like a good gaming or FPS optic. Good on paper, but impractical in practice. o and 2 grand cost doesn't help.
@Axl4325
@Axl4325 2 жыл бұрын
That´s why I have only seen Hamr scopes in games (Like Black Ops 2 or Escape from Tarkov) and the LCO D-EVO combo in game mods
@Chincarachas
@Chincarachas 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, it works good as a insurgency mod replaced original 2x optic, seems not gonna work that good irl
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 2 жыл бұрын
That HAMR just SCREAMS: “$35 ‘Green Beret Navy Seal Ranger Scope’ from Amazon.” 🤣
@SGCXD
@SGCXD 2 жыл бұрын
Just needs green AND red multiple reticles so it’s super mission configurable
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 2 жыл бұрын
@@SGCXD you get it!👍🏻🤣
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 2 жыл бұрын
Think of the Iron Man movies.
@buttnutt
@buttnutt 2 жыл бұрын
screams ARMA3 to me
@manganvbg90
@manganvbg90 2 жыл бұрын
But my 25 dollar wish multi reticle red dot has 5 star reviews. Cant beat that.
@randomidiot8142
@randomidiot8142 2 жыл бұрын
Your dedication to slowly going broke keeping us entertained is impressive.
@emoryzakin2576
@emoryzakin2576 2 жыл бұрын
Man the people at leupold NEED to see this video, very well put!
@diet_dr.demoncore
@diet_dr.demoncore 2 жыл бұрын
You would think that, being the "old money" in the game, Leupold would innovate a little more
@MandoWookie
@MandoWookie 2 жыл бұрын
Being old money doesn't incentivize innovation, it works against it. Look at Colt. But Leupold does come out with some great ideas every once in a while, it's not lack of innovation with them it's lack of follow thru. That and unreasonable prices. That killed more of their new launches than anything.
@surfingtothestars
@surfingtothestars 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda like Cmore with their red dots.
@Hamun002
@Hamun002 2 жыл бұрын
You don't understand what being "old money" means. Besides, this is the firearms business. See whats happening to Remington and Springfield if you want to understand how much a pedigree means.
@DaveSmith-cp5kj
@DaveSmith-cp5kj 2 жыл бұрын
@@MandoWookie The age doesn't matter to innovation. Ruger and S&W are old companies but they have some of the top selling products on the market on release. Colt's issue was that they partnered with Clinton thinking they would get exclusive mil rights and then the DoD immediately shafted them with a foreign contract to FN, because muh globalism. Colt basically made a deal with the devil and lost badly. Ruger and S&W almost went that route but they un facked themselves during Obama.
@Kyle-sr6jm
@Kyle-sr6jm 2 жыл бұрын
Old companies define the entrenchment of status quo and destruction of initiative.
@kothliim6429
@kothliim6429 2 жыл бұрын
❤️ aunt Hop.
@Matt-xc6sp
@Matt-xc6sp 2 жыл бұрын
Such a slight, soft spoken man you almost forget he’s 7ft tall
@Dakurar
@Dakurar 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the HAMR on a gun in EFT and I fell in love with it. It cost me a hefty sum but I love having it on my 14".
@Techn0mancer
@Techn0mancer Жыл бұрын
Where can I find a HAMR for sale?
@sheepherder911
@sheepherder911 Жыл бұрын
Ebay ​@@Techn0mancer
@OlehBilov
@OlehBilov 2 жыл бұрын
Never seen such a good video about devo, thanks! All the gases from an ejection port that are just flying right at the lens...
@Tusk_III
@Tusk_III 2 жыл бұрын
Love the content Hop, keep it coming! Thanks.
@GBGuns
@GBGuns 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a spot-on assessment of Leupold.
@JimYeats
@JimYeats 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish Leupold improved their mid tier offerings. Their 1” Freedom scope line is fantastic for its low price, but to get into a 30mm tube you jump to their higher end lines and have to pay a fortune.
@bubblewhip382
@bubblewhip382 2 жыл бұрын
Mk4 and Mk6 series isn't a bad value compared to the S&B, Nightforce, US optics, counterparts. Leupold is basically the only optics manufacturer that cares how much their scopes weigh too.
@JimYeats
@JimYeats 2 жыл бұрын
@@bubblewhip382 Agreed about the weight! Thats one of the main reasons I lover their lvpo’s and fixed power scopes. I believe the mk4 is a spotting scope series, and the mk6 scope line is over 2 grand, a little more than I am able to spend.
@stewmeat9261
@stewmeat9261 2 жыл бұрын
2nd that. I wish they'd bring back the VXR line. the new VX3 HD line looks nice though
@fermentillc
@fermentillc 2 жыл бұрын
@@stewmeat9261 the vxr 2x7 turkey plex is killer.
@jakejackson8395
@jakejackson8395 2 жыл бұрын
Hop is my favorite guntuber, just above short shorts
@AndyCigars
@AndyCigars 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. His dry humor and delivery make him the Steven Wright to James's Carrot Top.
@thee_adam_jagger
@thee_adam_jagger 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew they made that d evo. Pretty cool idea really but I could definitely see it being hard to use.
@somedude288
@somedude288 2 жыл бұрын
I have one on an airsoft gun and i gota say its a pretty slick optic
@GrendalTheBeasty
@GrendalTheBeasty 2 жыл бұрын
I gave serious consideration to buying one a couple years back. Only thing that stopped me is the crazy price tag. Very cool concept, love the idea of both red dot/holographic with a 5x+ prism within the same field of view. But eye box does need to be generous for such a setup.
@deanfirnatine7814
@deanfirnatine7814 2 жыл бұрын
One of those in theory it sounds good things
@Brinkplayer1
@Brinkplayer1 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how descriptive you are Hop. Thanks for being so in depth
@ItsSkeletor
@ItsSkeletor Жыл бұрын
I run a Leupold CQT-Mark 4 and it’s probably my favorite optic I’ve own. It’s definitely my favorite reticle to use with Nods.
@simulacra7885
@simulacra7885 2 жыл бұрын
You've heard of height over bore, now get ready for horizontal offset from bore!
@0214Bub
@0214Bub 2 жыл бұрын
Boy did you nail Leupold correctly. I have one of the DPP red dots and it works well except for the adjustment button which is inside the optic. When adjusting you finger covers up the red dot and since there is only one adjustment button you have to run through the entire spectrum to get the one you want.
@acemace3618
@acemace3618 2 жыл бұрын
I have one, you hold the button for about 2 seconds which will change the brightness sequence
@XaviarCraig
@XaviarCraig 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this optic! I actually was going to get an LCO D-EVO combo for my AR10 build last year but found them completely discontinued and unobtainable. I ended up going for the Elcan specter line as an alternative.
@samhinnant4416
@samhinnant4416 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Lco for sale if your interested
@leroyb1876
@leroyb1876 2 жыл бұрын
@@samhinnant4416 do you still have a LCO for sale?
@samhinnant4416
@samhinnant4416 2 жыл бұрын
@@leroyb1876 Crap I just sold it.
@or6060
@or6060 2 жыл бұрын
the d-evo was made for army rangers. they wanted basically the acog + rmr combo, but lower height over bore. it isn't illuminated to prevent distracting light when passive aiming.
@ralphpezda6523
@ralphpezda6523 2 жыл бұрын
They must all have unit matched eyeballs. In order to see anything through it your eyes have to be able to match the fixed focus and fixed parallax. If not, you can't see clear targets through it and there is nothing you can do about it. It's also annoying that certain reticles similar to that of the D-EVO, which I like, come only on Leupold's very high end scopes which are then only sold to the government.
@or6060
@or6060 2 жыл бұрын
@@ralphpezda6523 it's no surprise rangers don't use it except for at least one who made a video with garandthumb, that's how i learned it in the first place.
@MagicPrepper
@MagicPrepper 2 жыл бұрын
I want more American red dot options as well. But for now, I'll just roll with Aimpoint. Even my Trijicon Credo is made in Japan. That's just where we are I guess.
@Skeletomania
@Skeletomania 2 жыл бұрын
But aimpoint isn't American
@MagicPrepper
@MagicPrepper 2 жыл бұрын
@@Skeletomania exactly. Because I can't get a better American alternative.
@vicnighthorse
@vicnighthorse 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent narration skills as always.
@kilroy5166
@kilroy5166 2 жыл бұрын
That caterpillar footage was riveting
@saintsinningsword
@saintsinningsword 7 ай бұрын
Managed to find a DEVO copy and wonder if it's worth getting for fun. Just seems like if you can't mount a flashlight or laser on the right you just mount one on the left side, not an actual problem. Sighting in and compensating for the offset scope I get. LCO seems funny to me when cheaper or even better red dots and holographic sights exist, bundling it with the DEVO I get at least.
@deancarr4507
@deancarr4507 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE the idea of the D-EVO and it would be cool if someone tried it again and improved it
@traceyevans2757
@traceyevans2757 2 жыл бұрын
Many have already improved it. It’s still a shit design though
@bezimienny_andzej6425
@bezimienny_andzej6425 11 ай бұрын
@@traceyevans2757 Could you please provide the name of such products?
@SniperKing029
@SniperKing029 2 жыл бұрын
These are great videos! This channel should be more popular!
@SasquatchTX
@SasquatchTX 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Leupold discontinued the deltra reticle version of the Delta Point - literally killing the thing that the product was named after, sticking with the round dot more common. I wound up with the Holosun 507C for my Walther PDP - because Trijicon's RMR sucks for everything but its ruggedness - from removing and re-zeroing to replace the battery, to the single dot reticles - my eyes do better with chevrons or circle-dot style reticles on RDS's. Its unfortunate that the Chicoms beat American dot makers in features and options. Trijicon and Leupold make a killing off their reputation, but like Glock they take forever to listen to what the market asks for. Supposedly Holosun was / is going to open up production here in the states, we'll see. Ultimately I think its still a Chinese company so the money is going to the CCP and its supporters, even if the sights do get made here in the US. I love my traditional Leupold scopes for what they are, and maybe they should seriously just stick to doing traditional rifle scopes since they won't stand behind their "tactical" models in the same way they do the Fudd-scopes.
@deangullberry5148
@deangullberry5148 2 жыл бұрын
Holosun is an American company. They use the same factory as Primary Arms, Burris, Leupold/Sig, Steiner etc
@66Yoyomaster
@66Yoyomaster 2 жыл бұрын
@@deangullberry5148 holosun is owned by a Canadian holding company but the actual company is an oem based in China that makes stuff for alot of other companies, so Holosun is infact a Chinese company that is made in china
@taterc229
@taterc229 2 жыл бұрын
gotta love whining about muh chicoms when it was good old fashioned American megacorporations that moved manufacturing over there in mass
@deangullberry5148
@deangullberry5148 2 жыл бұрын
@@KeterMalkuth the owner of Holosun lives in California. Not even gonna try to spell his name. Their main office is (was?) In Florida.
@trunkmonkey56
@trunkmonkey56 2 жыл бұрын
Like a lot of things, no fault is given to the American citizen who is extremely happy buying tons of cheaper items from some other country. It's just as much the consumers fault as it is the manufacturers fault for outsourcing. In a free market, the consumer is telling the manufacturer what they want in an indirect way, with what they will buy. This global market is probably what's avoided major war for this long. Major countries don't want to lose the business deals with other countries...... For now. So ultimately the whining isn't just because of corporate decisions. It's also how a free market, Capitol gain system shows the consumer to also choose and share just as much of the responsibility.... Not just the big bad corporation
@milesrost6674
@milesrost6674 2 жыл бұрын
Traction picking up. Hard work paying off "Biggly" this year. Thanks. - Godspeed
@johnbeauvais3159
@johnbeauvais3159 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the DEVO and thought it was the coolest thing out there. The ability to immediately go from wide FOV scanning to a 6 power optic without having to do anything other than look seemed great. Honestly I still harbor a belief that it was just ahead of its time, before the optic design was there to make it practical. Maybe in another decade someone will try it again with a better eye box and design and will have a hit out of it. Of course I still think that a mirror inside a scope so you can use the angle of the ghost image placed on top for ranging would be useful so clearly I’m not a person to reference for optic design
@kw2519
@kw2519 2 жыл бұрын
It was discontinued because it’s incredibly difficult to machine 😂
@DaveSmith-cp5kj
@DaveSmith-cp5kj 2 жыл бұрын
@@kw2519 It's not hard to machine. It's basically an optical periscope which is way easier than making a prism scope. Their issue was poor design.
@dabeln1
@dabeln1 2 жыл бұрын
That is one well defended caterpillar.
@isaaccreech1920
@isaaccreech1920 2 жыл бұрын
drunk leupold is the keltec of optics
@theREALdingusMD
@theREALdingusMD 2 жыл бұрын
My CQ/T is pretty neat for what it is, much like a Kel-Tec.
@durkhurker6268
@durkhurker6268 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit that D-EVO is some crazy stuff I've been looking to pickup a HAMR off/on because of mw3 nostalgia. 🤣
@williamflowers9435
@williamflowers9435 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re really into the HAMR, Thor has one on his rifle in the movie EXTRACTION
@PriatingParrot
@PriatingParrot 9 ай бұрын
@@williamflowers9435the optics selection in that movie was very strange
@williamflowers9435
@williamflowers9435 9 ай бұрын
@@PriatingParrot the SRS on the UMPs for sure.
@PriatingParrot
@PriatingParrot 9 ай бұрын
@@williamflowers9435 and the kobra on the mp-5
@williamflowers9435
@williamflowers9435 9 ай бұрын
@@PriatingParrot actually, that’s a trijicon RX06 dual illumination reflex sight… but still a strange choice since they went out of style pre-GWOT
@alexs1972
@alexs1972 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad drunk Leupold exists, the optics world would be boring without drunk Leupold
@f308gtb1977
@f308gtb1977 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hop! Hopefully they didn’t torture you at SHOT too much. You kind of looked like you were there under duress most of the time. Like James had dirt on you and made you do interviews.🤣
@frankholub4673
@frankholub4673 2 жыл бұрын
"Hop if you don't do these interviews I'll tell everyone you secretly love your PTR."
@tg2z
@tg2z 2 жыл бұрын
Can't forget re-releasing a product, and changing nothing about it except removing the gold ring, ala the Patrol 6HD.
@axelmilan4292
@axelmilan4292 Жыл бұрын
6:11 is just one of those Hop moments that lives in my head rent-free😂
@superfamilyallosauridae6505
@superfamilyallosauridae6505 2 жыл бұрын
being featured in Battlefield 2042 is not a selling point. They also featured the ugliest underbarrel grenade launcher ever made. Yes, it's real, and it was for the Grot.
@pewpewTN
@pewpewTN Жыл бұрын
MSBS is a seksie gun
@th3b0yg
@th3b0yg 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is sharp. Another great video, Hop.
@user-vg3yc6gk5f
@user-vg3yc6gk5f 2 жыл бұрын
I was so excited when I heard about the Devo, then I saw it at SHOT and had the same conclusion. I wish they'd kept working on the same concept, and maybe they are. It's exactly what many would want. The immediate transition from red dot to magnified optic, without a separate magnifier. An AimPoint T2 that had a switch to 4X would be about perfect, but that's just a pipe dream. But who knows what technology may bring soon?
@kglethean
@kglethean 2 жыл бұрын
The DEVO was so fucking wild. I wish I had just one just to have it.
@pdxmarine1430
@pdxmarine1430 2 жыл бұрын
I've got one currently collecting dust since I switched to a 2.26 riser for my red dot and it doesn't pair well with the D-EVO anymore
@TimberwolfCY
@TimberwolfCY 2 жыл бұрын
Great video but have to say, damn what a great camera-shooting opportunity with that snowfall. Perfect.
@scottbowen4997
@scottbowen4997 2 жыл бұрын
Hop’s comments on Leupold , HK (diff vids) and other companies are truly spot on.
@the-sj3vq
@the-sj3vq 2 жыл бұрын
“Ancient Piece of Sheet” hahahaha 😂 I love this guy, subscribed!
@sd09gfh8sfgjmsf9yhkm
@sd09gfh8sfgjmsf9yhkm 2 жыл бұрын
My man Hop, please explain @8:40 Did you no scope some steel at distance?
@Hoplopfheil
@Hoplopfheil 2 жыл бұрын
Only 25y
@wonderbubble3980
@wonderbubble3980 2 жыл бұрын
Got to put a mag downrange through someone's D-EVO once. It's a really outstanding idea, honestly, being able to just glance down and boom you've got magnification exactly where you're already aiming? Big brain. But it is the most belligerently abusive eyebox I have ever had the displeasure of attempting to use. The TA31 can only dream of forcing your head into such a specific position. Heck, I've used wholeass telescopes before that were more forgiving than the D-EVO. Shooting from a bench, it was little more than a frustration machine to attempt to keep your head in place to actually use it, any positional or dynamic shooting isn't something I'd even consider attempting with one. Outstanding idea. But the execution of it is an embarrassment that shouldn't have ever gone out the doors.
@commandZee
@commandZee 2 жыл бұрын
Leupold really does make impressively clear glass, even their cheaper scopes are usually very clear. I wish they'd just make a simple affordable American made ( or "assembled") T1-ish micro clone and optional magnifier as the foundation of their tactical optics line; refining them every few years as their competitors have been doing for over a decade now. I would buy that and support it in a heart beat.
@davida375AI
@davida375AI 2 жыл бұрын
Leupold Prismatic is almost that small - if you can find one. Love that one since I have 2 of them. I wish they would bring back that one too!
@YukarisGearReviews
@YukarisGearReviews 2 жыл бұрын
What really makes me angry is that they discontinued the HAMR, now the closest thing I can get to it is in ARMA or chinese clones also you don't need to hammer through 30 settings on the eotech, just press NV button and you can flip between modes. It'll even retain day brightness setting
@deancarr4507
@deancarr4507 2 жыл бұрын
You've got the vortex prism optics too
@YukarisGearReviews
@YukarisGearReviews 2 жыл бұрын
@@deancarr4507 >poortex Ahahahahahahhaahaha
@deancarr4507
@deancarr4507 2 жыл бұрын
@@YukarisGearReviews Just won the NGSW optic contract though...idk they're a weird company to me. Lots of budget stuff on one end, and then a high-end red dot and a few different LPVO's that range from bad to great.
@YukarisGearReviews
@YukarisGearReviews 2 жыл бұрын
@@deancarr4507 The optic that won the NGSW contract is produced in an entirely different division than the ones that make their $200 chinese toilet paper tubes
@deancarr4507
@deancarr4507 2 жыл бұрын
@@YukarisGearReviews I know, that's why I'm saying they're such a weird company to me.
@The6698Clown
@The6698Clown 2 жыл бұрын
The HAMR is one of my grail optics. It's one of my main goals in life to own one. I don't even remember where I got my love for it I just know I have to have one. I just think they're neat.
@jonnyt16
@jonnyt16 2 жыл бұрын
Was it from the movie "Extraction"? The main character has a HAMR on his M4. What a great movie that was too.
@The6698Clown
@The6698Clown 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonnyt16 Not quite, this love comes from WAY before then. I faintly remember the cover of a magazine maybe. Some sort of Guns and Ammo or something with it on the front. I could be wrong though! Also, good movie.
@stevemc6010
@stevemc6010 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the old CQT scope that was covered in rails, very 2008 tacticool
@065Tim
@065Tim 2 жыл бұрын
Did anybody, anywhere, ever put something on it? Or on the sides?
@RedactedbyRobco
@RedactedbyRobco 2 жыл бұрын
@@065Tim No. Not even the Airsoft world where such autistic abortions abound.
@stevemc6010
@stevemc6010 2 жыл бұрын
@@065Tim probably an early micro red dot Or small laser/light
@davida375AI
@davida375AI 2 жыл бұрын
I have 4 CQ\Ts and love them. (and even thought this guy doesn't like the LCO - I had it next to my AimPoint Micro, EO, ... and it was hands done much better than any of my others RDS, IMHO. Looking to buy another one if I can find one.)
@balldip
@balldip 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, this channel is a gold mine for people that are getting into guns like myself. I almost made numerous mistakes with purchases until I watched your videos. Keep up the great work and you'll be in the 1M club one day brother :)
@jerome3941
@jerome3941 Жыл бұрын
i will never get tired of shots of hop struggling to use a product and you can gradual see his face start saying "this thing fucking sucks"
@ricardoa1661
@ricardoa1661 2 жыл бұрын
the HAMR is my fave sight in escape from tarkov lol , great video as always
@Fiterpilot
@Fiterpilot 2 жыл бұрын
First time seeing your channel, I have to say that it is awesome.
@mrshort2379
@mrshort2379 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it would have been nice to get ahold of one of those HAM'R's I personally think it would have been a good seller in today's market. There are not allot of optics south that integrate a dot sight with an actual magnified optics. It would be nice to see an offset dot sight and a magnified optic built as one unit in one housing
@namtatehtmit3056
@namtatehtmit3056 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you made it back to the woods
@davewebster5120
@davewebster5120 2 жыл бұрын
great review, hop!
@johnmarston2616
@johnmarston2616 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting the final nail in the coffin of this optic for me
@GarinEtch
@GarinEtch 2 жыл бұрын
Nice mastery of Willamette Valley geography. We Wilsonvillians appreciate it.
@UnexpectedInquisition
@UnexpectedInquisition 2 жыл бұрын
Good job Hop
@jae-86
@jae-86 2 жыл бұрын
Top tier outro b roll
@aquaisuseful682
@aquaisuseful682 2 жыл бұрын
I remember I saw this sight when I was a kid and now that I own my own rifles I wanted this. Thanks for explaining what the hell happened to it
@limpetarch98k
@limpetarch98k 2 жыл бұрын
You know the video is profesionally made when the end features a caterpillar hugging brass
@m1industries873
@m1industries873 Жыл бұрын
This was a great video and one I would encourage anyone to watch when researching optics. Out of the hundreds of optic review videos that have been posted, I think we can all agree the majority of those videos out there are essentially the same “shill campaign” they read the brochure to you, they shoot it, they whack it with something, they shoot it again and that’s it. The points you made are what people should be really looking for . Glass reflections, battery life with real world examples, brightness settings under various lighting conditions. Seeing the emitter reflection, and the mounting design are major design flaws compared to what’s currently in the market. Instead of announcing the features you provide a description of them which is something a lot of reviewers are lacking these days.
@BROperatorTIME
@BROperatorTIME 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I was 5 seconds away from asking Kyle at SHOT about this. I have the LCO and D-EVO combo too and it irks me that it never went anywhere haha.
@TheDCScout
@TheDCScout 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not going to lie the Devo really intrigued me. I’m glad someone went down the rabbit hole with one. Without being a shill.
@bolawdean
@bolawdean 2 жыл бұрын
Great content as always bro 👌🏼
@lucastonoli3256
@lucastonoli3256 2 жыл бұрын
There was a short-lived Russian company making scopes that worked in a similar way to how the D-EVO did. It was a more traditional scope with a secondary picture inside of a bigger scope by using a prismatic design. Can't imagine how much of a clusterfuck it was to use and make. They went out of business AFAIK.
@AndroidFerret
@AndroidFerret 2 жыл бұрын
Love those sights ...
@JakeCamo
@JakeCamo 2 жыл бұрын
Love your takes
@megastarsport
@megastarsport 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve wanted a HAMR since the Arma 3 alpha came out almost 10 years ago. Just need CMMG to make an MX rifle to put it on
@jonathonspears7736
@jonathonspears7736 2 жыл бұрын
Having just bought an EXPS3 and G33 magnifier, can't say i'd ever go back to other red dots, but these things are just wacky and cool... that is what draws attention at gun ranges.
@jimmybronco5336
@jimmybronco5336 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Hop. Love hearing you speak the truth.
@DoubleXPWeekend
@DoubleXPWeekend 2 жыл бұрын
Great content hop
@aaronwilcox6417
@aaronwilcox6417 2 жыл бұрын
You summed up Leupold as a company quite accurately.
@bulletsandburnouts5596
@bulletsandburnouts5596 2 жыл бұрын
I grabbed a DEVO when they went on clearance for $750 as they were being discontinued. I Put it behind an Aimpoint. It’s akkkshullly not awful. Some of the drawbacks Hop pointed out are present, but it was a lot of fun at an unknown distance course. I think you have to put a substantial amount of time behind it before you really get used to the dynamics of shifting your eyes instead of your head. It Has the CMR reticle in it and it’s canted to account for the body offset. I found the BDC accurate out to 500m. Also gets all the boomers wound up at a public range. Cool to see it get some Airtime in the tube! Good shit Hop.
@izaak1509
@izaak1509 2 жыл бұрын
Only used the hamr in video games and have always liked it good to know it’s actually a decent scope in real life.
@williamflowers9435
@williamflowers9435 Жыл бұрын
Thor used it in Extraction
@manuelporro-vizcarra184
@manuelporro-vizcarra184 2 жыл бұрын
I still love my Hamr. glass is superb.
@DistantThunder89
@DistantThunder89 2 жыл бұрын
Bro your reviews are on par with Sage Dynamics in terms of quality. Subscribing.
@AngelbeastSix
@AngelbeastSix 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to subscribe based solely on this review. Very well done.
@jonnyt16
@jonnyt16 2 жыл бұрын
Have a LCO on one of my rigs and I love it. The glass is amazingly clear. I typically run Eotechs and Aimpoints but I'm still not getting rid of that LCO.
@davida375AI
@davida375AI 2 жыл бұрын
I'm with you. I have Aimpoint Micros, EOs,... and the LCO is hands down my favorite!
@funkfist1337
@funkfist1337 2 жыл бұрын
I worked for a company that made lenses for them and they paid absolute shit. I'm also willing to bet the reason leupold cancels so many products stems from the company I worked for struggling to make large batches of lenses that met their specifications.
@ZApe1102
@ZApe1102 2 жыл бұрын
I love my hamr with dpp 6moa piggyback. On my shtf rifle and has been for almost 10 years. And my lco is on my 12.5 hd gun. Have had it over 3 years. Sent it back to leupold after the first week cuz of the emitter reflection. They sent it back and said there’s nothing wrong with it just deal with it so I have. Waited over two years to change the batter on the lco and now change it almost yearly when I change all my other batteries. I have beat the snot of the hamr and the lco and frequently shoot out to 500 yards with both. Glass, eyebox, and eye relief are all better than acog. Great video as always. I wish leupold would drink more. Hashtag bring back drunk leupold
@ripHalo0002
@ripHalo0002 2 жыл бұрын
fuzzy caterpilar movin fast!
@frankyjames9833
@frankyjames9833 2 жыл бұрын
Early pricing killed it. Trying to get $999 for a LCO was NUTZ
@goinhot9133
@goinhot9133 2 жыл бұрын
I just noticed you have a Gemtech trek2 suppressor. I just got mine last week, very first one. Hope it holds up!
@TinkerTailorSoldier1
@TinkerTailorSoldier1 2 жыл бұрын
Still have a LCO on my go to rifle. Big fan of it.
@Scraps_Underscore
@Scraps_Underscore Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie though, the LCO with D-EVO mod for Insurgency (2014) was tier one cheese. Why have a red dot or a scope when you can have both?
@TheL046Kid
@TheL046Kid 2 жыл бұрын
You have really nice non doucher reviews. Please keep up your content. Thank you!!!
A GWOT-era Classic: The Leupold Mark 4 CQ/T
7:43
Hop
Рет қаралды 84 М.
World's First Holographic Sight
10:50
Hop
Рет қаралды 880 М.
Bullpups are Unpopular for a Reason
26:32
Hop
Рет қаралды 1,5 МЛН
Leupold's ACOG Killer
11:33
Hop
Рет қаралды 245 М.
Trijicon's Secret Shame: The SRS
12:25
Hop
Рет қаралды 186 М.
How to Build Your Own PVS-14
17:12
S2 Underground
Рет қаралды 1,3 МЛН
Generic Video Game Red Dot
7:30
Hop
Рет қаралды 619 М.
First Focal Plane v. Second Focal Plane
10:55
Vortex Optics
Рет қаралды 1,6 МЛН
Flow through suppressors are good, actually
13:54
Hop
Рет қаралды 122 М.
The LPVO Illumination Paradox
11:18
Hop
Рет қаралды 112 М.
The EOTech Clone Wars
14:42
Hop
Рет қаралды 1,2 МЛН