Radahn: What happened? Miquella: I revived you! Radahn: Where's Leonard? Miquella: ...
@BorderlinesАй бұрын
You're MY Leonard now!
@Laoruperteen18Ай бұрын
@@Borderlines Miquella wanted an epic mount
@Giacomo_112Ай бұрын
Imagine your half sister, before nuking you whispered "Yo Miquella wants you." But then gets nuked wandering for years. We finally kill him thinking we freed him and bro gets revived
@kos2919Ай бұрын
Miquella: "Tarnished killed Leonard! Yes, funnel your anger at Tarnished!"
@jo_smoughАй бұрын
"It seems in your anger, you killed him."
@kowaikokoroАй бұрын
miquella: ''promise you'll be my consort'' radahn: ''look leonard i crushed that star'' miquella: ''malenia end him''
@sniperfity2327Ай бұрын
"Radahn wants to ride leonard, not miquella"😂
@OnlySinusodialАй бұрын
Nah bro that line was crazy 💀
@DESCENSUSSАй бұрын
Would prob be the other way around 😭
@armandaneshjooАй бұрын
Of course Radahn loves Miquella. Ask Mohg.
@jawelNeezekerАй бұрын
Is miquella gay or is he genderless. This I dont understand very well.
@Charolette21Ай бұрын
Rahdan is a horse girl, he chooses Leonard obviously.
@MrCrownedClownАй бұрын
You know how this vow sound. When a 6 year old tells you he is gone marry you when he is older. And you say yes yes to shut him up while you play a game.
@guighee7310Ай бұрын
Ignorant and thoughtless comment. Miquella looks young but he's as old as Malenia and not to mention he's was genius at incantations even before abandoning the Golden Order
@generalsheep4169Ай бұрын
@@guighee7310miquella may be smart but he's emotionally and mentally immature he Abandoned his sense of love, compassion, doubts, fear, regret, and in an effort to make everything humane, lost his own humanity in the process
@realnito6422Ай бұрын
@@guighee7310 it’s an observation made about a fictional character. You don’t have to take it that seriously. Learn to maneuver that Margit sized stick out of your ass
@guighee7310Ай бұрын
@@generalsheep4169 ''he Abandoned his sense of love, compassion, doubts, fear, regret, and in an effort to make everything humane, lost his own humanity in the process'' Miquella was someone willing to sacrifice his corporeal being in order to unbind himself from the Greater Will and start a new order that would create a better world, unlike Ranni that selfishly sacrificed poor Godwyn instead. Godwyn is the soulless monstrosity that lives in death now because of Ranni. No demigod is an upstanding citizen, but Miquella is by far the best one
@generalsheep4169Ай бұрын
@@guighee7310 and in the process he stripped himself essentially into the same as the frenzied flame Wanting all to be equal and treated equally And the frenzied flame isn't really a very big force of good His intentions were well meaning, but just as an immature child, his methods of going about it were not
@TheScrootchАй бұрын
Miquella couldn't have chosen someone who fits his ideals less. Radahn loves the thrill of battle and waging war, he loves the Golden Order and his heritage and he loves Godfrey and his legacy. Pretty much everything Miquella is going against
@lancestewart9013Ай бұрын
Then wouldn’t it also make sense to take control of the personification of your opposition and make them fallow you in the attempt to bring everyone under their banner to your control
@TheScrootchАй бұрын
@@lancestewart9013 I guess that's pretty much what Miquella did to Radahn, I doubt Radahn really liked being in kahoots with Miquella
@tashkashkaАй бұрын
Im headcanoning that miquella just has a crush on radahn and everything else is a shoddy justification. Plus radahn is like radahn level strong
@sondikku2318Ай бұрын
@TheScrootch I mean we have evidence that he did resist, when malenia led her siege to caelid and fought radahn, he fought back, not wanting to go along with miquellas plan
@mesmedorАй бұрын
He has a weak spot for bad boys it seems. He can change him, for sure!
@courygaffney4408Ай бұрын
This may sound like a joke, but I genuinely think the “vow” is Radahn saying: “Over my dead body” Miquella took that literally
@garrulousgoldmaskАй бұрын
Honestly, I could totally see that!
@wispfire2545Ай бұрын
Absolutely horrifying. It works perfectly and shows petulance a divine child could display.
@real_surreal_sirАй бұрын
That would be the most FromSoftware hidden lore to ever lore ever
@BulldogFromHell10 күн бұрын
That's an objectively wrong interpretation. The Secret Rite Scroll says he had to die for the Lord's Consort to ascend to godhood.
@BulldogFromHell10 күн бұрын
@@wispfire2545 ''It works perfectly'' It really doesn't. There's lore directly contradicting it within the game.
@deathsyth8888Ай бұрын
Maybe the real villain of Elden Ring were the incestuous relationships we made along the way.
@marcoonroad7Ай бұрын
Yet tarnished still remains maidenless, but nowadays and hopefully for the greater good of between lands 😅
@fearslayersoro1589Ай бұрын
Nah elden ring is just some random mf tryna clean up a royal family fuck up of the ages, literally
@tristanneal9552Ай бұрын
@@marcoonroad7Idk about you but this tarnished is honeymooning on the moon with his 4 armed maiden
@apolloisnotashirtАй бұрын
@@tristanneal9552dolls dont count.
@bobbywalker2980Ай бұрын
Under rated comment.
@scribble8447Ай бұрын
Love the idea that Radahn is more or less just trying to get away from a crazy stalker. Clearly this game was set before the invention of the restraining order
@LordKnightBaneАй бұрын
Now cometh the Age of the Restraining Order?
@ninjarldАй бұрын
MAY COPS TAKE THE WEAPON!!
@Deflamed_SphereАй бұрын
@@LordKnightBane It appears The Tarnished need to obtain that ending
@zm9498Ай бұрын
@@LordKnightBaneGOLD COMMENT😂
@kos2919Ай бұрын
The question is who wants to enforce restraining order on demigods?
@errantvice7335Ай бұрын
I like how Miquella’s three braids and the use of three in his symbolism (the interlocking rings of light, the three discuses he taught to radagon, the three stats raised by his crown) invoke the three fingers. Miquella’s order would be like the flame of frenzy, instead of all things being melted into a indescribable slurry, everything would be made one by Miquella enslaving everyone, making perfect, and total order, where everything would be in endless stasis, forever nascent, much like Miquella himself
@garrulousgoldmaskАй бұрын
Oh I never made those connections-that’s great! I especially like the idea that Miquella’s age of compassion is just a blended together hive mind where All is One. It's also interesting that Miquella's circlet doesn't raise Mind, which governs resistance to Sleep and Madness...
@kann4915Ай бұрын
I had thought about this too, miquella's order would be an absolute order, and as such it horseshoes around and becomes no better than chaos
@alchemicalalek7535Ай бұрын
@@kann4915 Knowing that Radahn was reborn without his horse, it horseshoeing around somehow becomes more ironic
@Lazarus_CardinalisАй бұрын
Oh if only we had access to that ending
@CirBam24Ай бұрын
Which means Ranni is still best ending four armed blue mommy for the win
@danieldirocco8282Ай бұрын
Speaking of Metyr, she could be the root of the corruption at the heart of so many things. It has been speculated that the greater will doesn’t care about what form order takes as indicated by putting forth Malenia as empyrean despite being under influence of an outer god, but I don’t think that’s the case. The Greater Will seems to have abandoned Metyr and thus the fingers that chose empyreans. Metyr constantly trying to contact the Greater Will may have been what attracted outer gods in the first place, or she may even be trying to invite a new god to rule over the order, as Kowtower’s Resentment implies she has become hateful towards the Greater Will that abandoned her. The theme of intergenerational trauma and parents abandoning their children runs deep in the DLC.
@garrulousgoldmaskАй бұрын
That's a great point about the intergenerational trauma! My next video is all about Metyr and how she lost contact with her mother.
@Cman04092Ай бұрын
@@garrulousgoldmaskit's. Crazy to think that the greater will might not be the POS we all thought, and metyr is the real issue here.
@YtinasniiableАй бұрын
@@Cman04092well only really being an issue because the greater will abandoned her, in a desperate attempt to get the greater will back, she brought, well, all of the problems, but they still stem from the greater Will's actions
@Cman04092Ай бұрын
@Ytinasniiable that's not fair, merry and the fingers chose how to react to the greater will missing, and who's to say the greater will abandoned then on purpose, and even so, it doesn't excuse these dirty dirty fingers, who cause immense pain and suffering on innocent people who have nothing to do with the greater will.
@YtinasniiableАй бұрын
@@Cman04092 what one does in response to trauma they cannot always be held accountable for The greater will is one of those uncaring cosmic horror gods that likes to start shit and then ADHD onto something else and ignore the chaos it created when it left
@TGZ-vx1itАй бұрын
It might have been Miquella's curse that caused all of this. The situation with young Radahn sounds awfully close to a child asking their parents to marry them when they grow up and the parent humoring them with "of course, honey." I think Radahn agreed to the vow while assuming that the child would never actually accomplish his goal. The statue at the Haligtree (with the older brother holding the twins) shows Malenia clearly older than a child (appears to be a preteen), so Miquella might have asked Radahn for this vow while being a preteen and knowing the implications, but Radahn still saw him as a child due to his stunted growth. In some sense, Radahn may have been correct in his assumption that Miquella was still too naive, because Miquella, being cursed with eternal youth, seemed to have never outgrew his childish mindset and ambitions. Thus, he forced his will on Radahn, who thought he was making a promise that would never come to pass. Radahn never realized how fearsome and twisted an eternal child with godlike powers could become.
@TheSexyqueendivaАй бұрын
You seem to forget that in the ancient royalty, marriages between family was an everyday matter. It dosen't sound to crazy of them both making that vow, to extinguish the flames of war between Caria and the Golden Order reignited when Radagon leave Renala
@halletelen9825Ай бұрын
There's a vid of showcasing Miquella's 3d model and he has a ring on his right ring finger iirc. So I don't know if Radahn was serious, joking, or pressured to be his consort but the ring is proof I guess that he did proposed and not some off hand promise (Doubt its godwyn's proposal ring since the dlc items described radahn as miquella's wish consort). Then the whole engagement was called off and now the present.
@TGZ-vx1itАй бұрын
@halletelen9825 The vow sounds to me like it was worded as "When I become a god, will you be my consort?" Whether Radahn was serious or not, I think he accepted thinking that Miquella was too weak and naive to accomplish his goals (again, seeing him as a child). Radahn never actively helped Miquella achieve godhood. Miquella had to prove that he could become a god before Radahn had to make any changes to his plans/lifestyle. So he just kept warring and living out his own ambitions till his duel with Malenia. However, once Miquella resurrected him and became a god, Radahn decided he might as well honor his vow. It's also possible that Radahn didn't know the full implications of godhood when he promised himself to Miquella. After learning that godhood would be an eternal prison for Miquella, he actively opposed it because he couldn't put that fate on the one he loved.
@Kn1ghtborneАй бұрын
It's like you're all ignoring the fact Radahn's soul is in Mohg's body....who was ALREADY BEWITCHED. This wasn't Radahn's call. You don't waste an entire army for a duel.
@halletelen9825Ай бұрын
@@Kn1ghtborne ye i do agree he was already controlled at the gates, also the army thing also makes sense
@SmoughTownАй бұрын
Great video bud - really like the idea about Godwyn, and how the three siblings worked against Miquella.
@garrulousgoldmaskАй бұрын
Thank you so much mate! This DLC was absolutely stacked with lore revelations! Though I don't think any of them can ever top the majesty of the Albinauric Bloodclot.
@alchemicalalek7535Ай бұрын
Grand to see you here you magnificent madlad! I have written an analytical essay once or twice for English class, and your work just leaves me astonished every time
@iruga7379Ай бұрын
Me: OMFG RYKARD WAS A GOOD GUY?! Rykard: Always has been...TOGETHAAA!!!
@Existentialist649Ай бұрын
“Radahn wants to ride Leonard, not Miquella.” This is art. Pure, unadulterated art.
@nathanwaibel454Ай бұрын
Save a horse, ride your brother..
@eldenfindley186Ай бұрын
Twinks commanding the hearts of gigachads? Tale as old as time.
@tajdaffa15269 күн бұрын
You know i instantly sing it 😂
@raydhen88403 күн бұрын
I read this in Morshu voice due to your pfp
@YamiRikuАй бұрын
when Radahn pulled up without Leonard I just knew it he wasn't himself. :(
@chrisnatale5901Ай бұрын
That's such a good point re: the dichotomy of "endless war" for Radahn and the concept of an age of compassion.
@badandsloАй бұрын
I don't think Miquella used Mohg for the formless mother, I think it was because Mohg is an omen who are touched by the crucible. The Omen cannot return to the Erdtree where all spirits of the lands between go after death as seen with Erdtree burial and spirit summons. Those devoid of grace, who cannot return to the Erdtree are sent to the Land of Shadow to be killed by Messmer. Omens relate to the hornsent too who are more close to the crucible and even have the gate of divinity. The blood ritual Mohg conducted under Miquella's influence is probably the thing that allowed him to enter the Land of Shadow.
@edwartvonfectonia4362Ай бұрын
In my view, I thought when Miquela says "I am going to be a god", he sounds as if he does not want to and believe it, but must to to "save" the world.
@GoldD.MachinuАй бұрын
I think this is accurate, especially considering that his other half St. Trina desperately wishes for Miquella not to become a god. In order to do so he had to abandon his doubts and St. Trina alike
@liamatteАй бұрын
One thing to note is we know rykard was essentially trying to usurp the gods himself. How exactly we know now. The cave he lives in is lined to the brim with the same corpse-like structures as the gate of divinity. I believe rykard was trying to become a god by building his own version of that gate.
@obamabidenАй бұрын
this is an interesting insight although i still think rykard's plan for usurping the gods was probably just the very simple one he tells the player: he's just gonna eat them
@Nemo12417Ай бұрын
In Sekiro, the women of the Sunken Valley would often ritually "marry" the serpent god by feeding themselves to it. And now that Elden Ring has officially confirmed Tarnished Archaeologist's theory that being a god in Elden Ring is defined, at least in part, by taking a consort as Lord, we can see why Rykkard is one of the two demigods who the game calls "Lord": he became a Lord by "marrying" a god.
@dharmdevilАй бұрын
@@Nemo12417 That should have been obvious. Being a god is being a vessel of an "outer god".
@chrisdiokno5600Ай бұрын
Here's on theory I stand by. Miquella didn't want Radahn as a consort romantically. Rather he wanted Radahn as an eternal bodyguard of sorts
@nathanwaibel454Ай бұрын
Platonic consort...sure, I see..
@df0rdeath58Ай бұрын
Yeah I feel the same. Probably the same way Marika saw Godfrey as a means to an end through his strength.
@war.neverchangesАй бұрын
I agree with this. It’s better to think about mohgs body + rahdan soul would make a better host to conjoin with like what marika and radagon did. With the other half that has abilities to control everything with speech, that would make everything op in all stats. No weakness and even if there was “talk no jutsu”
@nathanwaibel454Ай бұрын
@@chrisdiokno5600 they actually don't mince words in this game. You shouldn't stretch too far to find the meaning..
@chrisdiokno5600Ай бұрын
@@nathanwaibel454 Fair, but some do suggest his feelings for Radahn may not be purely out of love. Rather half love, half pragmatism.
@whatsnewbois9814Ай бұрын
Radahn: "I am not gay! i refuse to be Consort to a twink, YOU CANT MAKE ME!" Malenia: "A little brainrot should fix that"
@thebigdoginthisbitch4733Ай бұрын
And she still lost the fight
@bowenjudd1028Ай бұрын
Lol, I don't think it was about Radahn's sexuality. He just didn't want to be with Miquella
@stefanpestritu2308Ай бұрын
bro needed brain dmg in order to be with miquella
@jalpat2272Ай бұрын
Well if Miquella like his mother has opposite sex other self... Its kinda ooo(and I remember forever youth curse which mean St Trina is Lo..) never mind.
@thedukeofchutney468Ай бұрын
@@bowenjudd1028The two are not mutually exclusive.
@thanh5703Ай бұрын
Miquella at the Divine Gate: "I am stuck My Lord Step Bro"
@Psychx_Ай бұрын
It's been my own headcanon too that Godwyn was Miquella's first choice. Miquella had to give up on that due to the eclipse failing though. The boy is every bit as deranged as his mother and just doesn't know when to give up. I also think that his relationship to Malenia isn't as sincere as she believes it to be - much akin to the one with his followers. As for Mohg, I think he was necessary to enter the land of shadows because he was a demigod AND shows extensive traits of the crucible. That naturally creates a much stronger connection to this realm than his siblings (Morgot sealed his "accursed blood" and thus wasn't viable).
@WispFigmentАй бұрын
I kinda think the post final fight memory was Miquella talking to Godwyn tbqh. His hands were clasped in prayer, and he was by himself, if he was talking to Radahn I think they would've shown another demigod throne
@kevinvolchok14Ай бұрын
Also Morgot was really loyal to Marika whereas Mogh wasn't. His ambition probably made him more likely to be charmed, or at least easier
@gravegaming2023Ай бұрын
I disagree, Miquella specifically saw radhan as a hero lord like Godfrey and his father
@guighee7310Ай бұрын
This doesn't make sense at all. The Eclipse Miquella tried to use on Godwyn was to give Godwyn a true death from the soulless monstrosity he had become, which only occurred when Ranni assassinated Godwyn in the Night of the Black Knives, event that cause Marika to shatter the Elden Ring and cause The Shattering period. Miquella chose Radahn because he was strong and yet kind. You can see that on the item description for Remembrance of a God and a Lord. It reads, and I quote, ''In their childhood, Miquella saw in Radahn a lord. His strength, and his kindness'' Marika is responsible for the biggest atrocities in the story and you're comparing Miquella to her because he charmed Mohg in order to get access to the Land of Shadow? That's a crazy way of thinking to me. Multiple genocides = making some people like you? See how silly that sounds? ''I also think that his relationship to Malenia isn't as sincere as she believes it to be'' This makes zero sense. ''As for Mohg, I think he was necessary to enter the land of shadows because he was a demigod AND shows extensive traits of the crucible. That naturally creates a much stronger connection to this realm than his siblings (Morgot sealed his "accursed blood" and thus wasn't viable).'' I like this part. This is also how I believe how Mohg gained access to the Land of Shadows when it was sealed away by Marika, by being an Omen and by being a child of Marika. Good thought.
@WispFigmentАй бұрын
@guighee7310 I think it's possible that Miquella could've looked up to Radahn and chose him as his consort, it's just strange that there was absolutely 0 connected between the 2 even hinted at at all in the story. The biggest issue I have canonically with this was what was the reason Radahn took part in the shattering war on his own side and not just join Miquella then to be his consort
@mourad505Ай бұрын
"Lord brother... promise me you'll be my consort." I'm beginning to worry for GRRM's sisters
@DonPetexXАй бұрын
If only Marika invented restraining orders!!
@cynreiusacari3163Ай бұрын
@@DonPetexX Her children needed a protective order against her. 😂
@guighee7310Ай бұрын
@@cynreiusacari3163 Facts. Marika might be the shittiest mom in all of videogames' history 😂
@KKKumaАй бұрын
@@cynreiusacari3163She is the worst mother ever. Let her children live with their dad. The demigod raised by Radagon and Renala turned out good (except rykard but it was way later after he left). And the childen raised with Godfrey were good too (except mogh but that due to how Marika treated him in the first place. The one that were involced with Marika were manipulated, setup, abandoned. She should not have the kids
@Cman04092Ай бұрын
@@KKKumabruh, mogh was charmed by miquellas, so everything he did was miquellas fault.
@marcus22greeneАй бұрын
As an old Scholar once said "Young Hollow, there are but two paths. Inherit the order of this world, or destroy it. These are the roots of our world. But only a true monarch can make such a choice. Peace grants men the illusion of life. Shackled by falsehoods, they yearn for love, unaware of its grand illusion. These are the roots of our world. Men are props on the stage of life, and no matter how tender, how exquisite...A lie will remain a lie." -Never thought quotes from Dark souls 2 would fit so well in Elden Ring-
@garrulousgoldmaskАй бұрын
Aldia is the absolute GOAT! Once I've had my fill of Shadow of the Erdtree, there's another Aldia video I can't wait to make. And ofc an Aldia speech would fit perfectly for Dark Souls 2 2!
@wakamoon1910Ай бұрын
you forgot to mention ansbarch's dialogue when he dies during the radahn boss fight, asking for the player to usher in an age for men rather than gods.
@TheAuspiciousGoldmaskАй бұрын
Thats why i choose goldmask ending as the best, if the gods are no better than men, let men rule its own world, making ansbach wish reality, ruling the world for men not for the gods. Great vid goldmask, im eager for more dlc lore. Take care
@tegar.wicaksonooАй бұрын
Good choice. I chose ranni's ending, as i am inclined to put ratio before faith. Ranni's godhood is removing herself from lands between, letting natural courses to go as it goes. It was neither good nor bad, love how rational that is
@Khann_2102Ай бұрын
@@tegar.wicaksonooGlad to see a fellow based Indonesian here
@Basthor_1Ай бұрын
I think Ranni's ending is better in that sense, it is practically the same ending but this time there are no lords or gods directing anything, when Ranni and the Tarnished become god and lord they leave, leaving each one in the lands between have their own will and choose their own destiny.
@TheAuspiciousGoldmaskАй бұрын
@@Basthor_1 My problem with Ranni’s ending is: 1-Ranni herself, bc of her godwyn and fortisax are in eternal suffering (No the ends don’t justify the means, we saw that with miquella) 2- The age of stars take care of the gods problem, but what about the ppl ? Men can be as evil and twisted as any god, just with less destructive power. When we take the order from the lands between we leave it in a anarchic state (the absence of order is chaos or mayhem), a lawless land where there is no major power to enforce the law to protect the weak against the worst human kind can offer or against demi-humans or misbegotten, there is also a power vaccum as well, so a tyrant could take over and make life there more miserable than before. Men can slave its own kind and make the most atrocious things of it, the gods are like 60% of the problem, the other 40% is ppl, thats why the elden lord ending is the best for me, not only we stop the gods from meddling with the Elden Ring, but we are the law, the major power that that can be a beacon of hope to the weak and defenseless.
@amaimon1494Ай бұрын
"Righteous Tarnished, become a lord, not for gods, but for all men." - Sir Ansbach. Best character in the game and someone we can’t let down.
@ProbablyLyingАй бұрын
How come no one’s talking about Miquella’s 4 arms on Radahns back. Just like Ranni
@FirstnameLastname-tl1bqАй бұрын
It’s what happens when you’re an empyrean
@drazzytime9353Ай бұрын
@@FirstnameLastname-tl1bqMalenia is empyrean and only has 2 arms. Technically 1 arm 🤷♂️
@nickytheanimal2413Ай бұрын
And he even says let’s go on a thousand year voyage
@jungtothehuimangАй бұрын
@@FirstnameLastname-tl1bq that doesn't really make sense because she is a doll, and her doll is fashioned after her witch mentor who was not Empyrean to my knowledge. None of her siblings except Miquella has four arms. Also Ranni's true body has only 2.
@FirstnameLastname-tl1bqАй бұрын
@@drazzytime9353 they may also be empyrean but are they really acting on it? Does the game really treat them the same? Miquella’s age of compassion and the diametrically opposed Ranni with her age of isolation are the only demigods with a real shot at winning
@goosemama5223Ай бұрын
I totally agree that Radahn stopped the stars with Ranni's knowledge. I like to think that he did it to buy her time to figure out how to get rid of Miquella. Radahn knows his strengths and the strengths of his siblings, wholeheartedly. What if Godwyn also had to go because he was too much of a variable for them?
@thedukeofchutney468Ай бұрын
So Radahn is even MORE badass than we previously thought! What a gigachad!
@goosemama5223Ай бұрын
@@thedukeofchutney468The ultimate gigachad, "I'M GONNA TANK TIME ITSELF"
@doncolbus134Ай бұрын
I personally think that radahn stopped the stars so he could halt his own fate with miquella, and ranni being affected was just a side benefit. Outside of ranni just trying to establish her own order, we don’t really see her explicitly trying to stop miquella. Also, we don’t really have evidence that radahn wanted there to be a change in the order, especially given he practically worshipped radagon and Godfrey, the 2 mascots of the golden order. However, godwyns death could have occurred so miquella didn’t get his first choice in a consort (presumably), but I don’t see any affirmative evidence for either godwyn being miquellas first choice, or that this was why godwyn was killed by ranni.
@chief9907Ай бұрын
@@doncolbus134 It's never explicitely stated that Radahn was a big fan of the Golden Order, just that he admired Radagon and Godfrey which makes me think he admired them for their prowess on the battlefield on not on ideological grounds. Also Ranni trying to ascent to godhood is in itself already her working against Miquella. As the item description of Miquella's boss incantation says, one god and lord consort are already all the world needs
@pearljaime2Ай бұрын
Why wouldn't he? He's tall, well mannered according to lore, comes from a rich family, is strong and is also a man with a huge academic accomplishments, very inteligent. He's a catch❤
@kurenianАй бұрын
Also Miquella’s order is opposed to Ranni in a more thematic/character driven sense. Miquella basically wants to be Marika 2 electric boogaloo, but has given no indication for him being any different. And to Ranni, him “stealing” Radahn might be the same to her as Marika stealing Radagon from Rennala, a potential source of her trauma/motivations. She would not want her family to be stolen again. Ranni clearly values genuine attachment to people given her questline and ending, not forcing us to serve/wed her. In addition, Ranni’s order of stars would exist but she would be unknown to the lands between. Miquella specifically wants to be known, he cannot mind-control people through affections, if he is unknown. They even use different domains of sorceries vs incantations.
@Randelo2013Ай бұрын
Miquella isn’t a child. He was cursed with eternal youth but mentally he’s an adult. He’s fully aware of what he’s doing.
@briggy4359Ай бұрын
This is the Genshin Impact take
@alperalyanak962721 күн бұрын
Not entirely. It's implied in the DLC, that even though miquella is older than his appearance suggests, that he still has the maturity (or rather 'immaturity') of a child. He's innocently insensitive to the extreme. He sees no problems with the horrible acts he commits, in the same way a child still learns morality and develops empathy.
@Ron322Ай бұрын
I'm glad this video said what I started to believe -- Radahn halted the stars not in opposition to his sister Ranni...but to halt Miquella's ambitions. Ranni likely was reluctant but understood what had to be done.
@abdelrahman788Ай бұрын
Ofc radahn doesn't want to ride his brother, but his horse, and he doesn't want him on his shoulder, but his cat.
@garrulousgoldmaskАй бұрын
That cat could have been his Serosh!
@abdelrahman788Ай бұрын
@@garrulousgoldmask yap + The video was great as usual, keep going 💜.
@akechijubeimitsuhideАй бұрын
@@garrulousgoldmask They should have restored Radahn's Cat (a very fearsome warrior obviously) and also Kalé's questline while we're at it.
@oldensad5541Ай бұрын
I like how everyone overlook one simple aspect of Miquela "monstrosity". He is a threat only to gods and great heroes. 99% of population is ALREADY subjugated to a greater beings and have zero will, choice, and say. More on that if they have rebellious streak they would be brutally forced in line with pain and suffering... And Miquela will just say them "hey, don't do that" and that's it. So, from the perspective of those zombie like creatures ( we kill in droves all the time, btw) we are the bad guy, refusing to grant them peaceful subjugation, instead of brutal one, for the selfish reasons. It's so fascinating,
@user-it7rw7vt8jАй бұрын
what are you talking about, people in the lands between do have free will
@oldensad5541Ай бұрын
@@user-it7rw7vt8j no they don't. You can't have free will with literal Gods exist alongside you, and dictate their will with force. You can have any internal disagreements with them, sure, but any moment you decide to voice your choice or even thoughts about making this choice potentially, you will be overpowered and punished. This is not an existence with free will, coz you unable to act according to your will.
@user-it7rw7vt8jАй бұрын
@@oldensad5541 there are literally tons of characters running around doing whatever
@oldensad5541Ай бұрын
@@user-it7rw7vt8j which is either great heroes, challenging God's, or servants of the Gods. As I mentioned before you either have power to act on your will, or you are one of those pathetic creatures roaming around from Marika Shire to Marika shrine. Shocking revelation - regular people of Land Between is not those who challenge the gods. Not even those who serve them as a heroes. This zombies IS a people of Land Between.
@user-it7rw7vt8jАй бұрын
@@oldensad5541 but the zombies roaming around do have free will
@CalemCooper7Ай бұрын
"Rahdan wants to ride Leonard, not Miquella." I need a shirt that says this. I cackled so hard.
@SuperUniverseАй бұрын
So the true villain of Elden Ring was Miquella. What a twist!
@AndroteshАй бұрын
And Marika
@AndroteshАй бұрын
And Ranni
@generalsheep4169Ай бұрын
@@Androtesh 85% of the cast
@TheTinMan2077Ай бұрын
@Androtesh Ranni is innocent, maybe you like living under someone's thumb and be controlled by otherworldly beings
@AndroteshАй бұрын
@@TheTinMan2077 tell that to Godwyn.
@Iowan3-0Ай бұрын
Radahn did something stupid when he was young and deeply regretted it. Very relatable lmao
@abstractnonsense3253Ай бұрын
Ah, a Goldmask ending appreciator. Rightly so.
@kriegsmaschine4050Ай бұрын
I do believe your interpretation of Radahn's actions is correct. The description for the Light of Miquella incantation says that Miquella found one who refused to be embraced. Honestly Radahn has now transcended his idol Godfrey in my eyes as the true Chad, because it seems he was bewitched, and yet somehow broke free of Miquella's mind control, the first and probably only person to have done so
@cynreiusacari3163Ай бұрын
@kreigsmachine4050 Radahn has a good head on his shoulders like his father.
@obamabidenАй бұрын
"the one who refused to be embraced" could also refer to our hero, John Eldenring
@finalomnislash79Ай бұрын
"the one who refused to be embraced is refer to the tarnished
@amaimon1494Ай бұрын
Something else interesting to point out too aside Goldmask and Ranni’s ending be valid is the Hornsent further expands on the implications of Dung Eater’s Fell Curse ending. The DLC added more room on what ending you choose to pick from and results thereafter in greater context.
@garrulousgoldmaskАй бұрын
Definitely! The connections between the Hornsent, the Omen, and the LOATHSOME DUNG EATER are really fascinating and something I'm planning to explore!
@amaimon1494Ай бұрын
@@garrulousgoldmask I always assume that because the Elden Stars is an Erdtree incantation, then the crucible is derived of the Elden Beast therefore the Omen are a natural part of the Order of things. What Dung Eater was implanting was simply a deviant interpretation that he has no real connection too. Now however the Hornset appear as a precursor to Dung Eaters torture methods as a godly saint act.
@LamrenАй бұрын
I picked the death mending rune because I wanted to fix a land where nobody could die with all those decrepit zombie like aristocrats and whatnot, and also to correct Godwyn's fate that got destroyed by Ranni and the growing influence in the land from his living body festering and corrupting everything. But the ending didn't give any clue to what would change (aside from the concept of death being back, even for the undead), nor what it did for Godwyn. And the Shadow of the Erdtree is supposed to be an entire realm entirely, yet there were two differents area with Godwyn's cloned face in it and it was full of "Those who live in death" which is quite surprising, but no mention of Godwyn at all in the DLC I'm so sad that this whole thing is left open ended and as a mystery :(
@amaimon1494Ай бұрын
@@Lamren that’s disappointing I wished they did expand on aspects of Those who Live in Death
@akechijubeimitsuhideАй бұрын
I feel like Dung Eater is really bad at advertising his ending. If he wants to make everyone Omens because he knows it was once considered the blessing of the Crucible / hates the Golden Order's anti-Omen bullshit, he sure does a bad job at explaining it and just look like a batshit crazy serial killer who does it all for the evulz.
@horacevonbergamot5093Ай бұрын
You forgot to point out that Malenia beeing Fujoshi was forshadowed by her beeing a literal rotten woman.
@Soulute367Ай бұрын
Damn you right.
@svenornitierАй бұрын
@@Soulute367HA
@Ravi9AАй бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@hugoguzman4985Ай бұрын
🐝🐝🐝🐝
@dusti9353Ай бұрын
don't do my fujosisters like that
@hericbssАй бұрын
2:15 “That traitor V.IV… the dolts in Command, and worst of all, you! The pest of Rubicon that stirred the cinders! You sicken me, ALL OF YOU! I will crush you underfoot…I AM ARQUEBUS!”
@chakwainahuyana3354Ай бұрын
~Radahn wants to ride Leonard, not Miquella~ Best sentence of the video
@prisonerofthehighway1059Ай бұрын
Rykard makes sense as well. He was the nuclear option. Able to devour the very gods! All three carian children were trying to prevent their half brother’s reign of terror.
@lorddervish212quinterosara6Ай бұрын
I find it funny how now we know the GW was never behind anything and everything bad thing the GO did was Marikas/Radagon and the Fingers' fault.
@mistahanansi2264Ай бұрын
Gotta say dude, I think you nailed it with your interpretation of all the jumbled lore from this DLC. And yeah, I’m convinced that Goldmask’s ending is the superior one, even if our waifu is essentially a lifeless broken mannequin that was once Marika.
@cynreiusacari3163Ай бұрын
@mistahanansi2264 we deserved the chance to establish Radagon as the new god! The man has interests in academia, smithing/building, and being a good dad that also understands the importance of order. 😂
@thedukeofchutney468Ай бұрын
Melena > Ranni
@crow3958Ай бұрын
@@cynreiusacari3163I'm not sure about "Being a good dad" dude, last time I check dude bred 3 child with a foreign woman then left them for selfcest, ultimately made her chronologically insane and his 3 children has daddy issues
@thesnatcher3616Ай бұрын
@@cynreiusacari3163Isn't it implied that its sort of his fault that the Golden Order was so oppressive?
@cynreiusacari3163Ай бұрын
@@crow3958 until we hear his side of the story he gets the benefit of the doubt for ditching Rennala. All three were accepted and I would even argue sane despite being disgusted with the order in the case of Ranni & Rykard. It would be great if we were given more information about Rykard pre-shattering, he appeared to fulfill all his duties and responsibilities regardless. Ranni only cares about Ranni and is happy to murder anyone to get her way. I lean towards her being an experiment with the amber egg to account for her empyrean status. She seems emotionally detached from everyone else and doesn’t even have a picture of any family member in her tower. Yes, there’s the item about Rennala and her looking at the moon but it’s likely the affection is mostly one sided. Radahn is interesting and the most similar to Radagon. While he was infatuated with the tales of heroes and war to the point he would excel he is also interested in academia. Any battles he participates in likely have clear objectives and few civilian casualties unless a purge is ordered. Even then he’s likely to pass the buck onto someone else or whoever is giving the order wouldn’t ask. Out of all of the demigod children only Godwyn and Rahdahn seemed not to mind being stepchildren and willing to interact with any of them.
@OrdoMalliusАй бұрын
Miazaki writing the lore for DLC: take everything the community has thought up and turn it upside down
@flags5765Ай бұрын
So a golden femboy falls in love with a jock( whos his brother) and send his tomboy sister to kill him while he rizzes up and manipulates his step brother into bieng playdough so he could remake the jock into liking him....
@rabbidguarddog27 күн бұрын
"Only in a Fromsoft game is the most fearsome enemy is a child wanting to make the world a gentler place!" 😂 I am quoting that!
@edwardthetree830814 күн бұрын
deadass Goldmask's whole ending can be summarized as "The Elden Ring was made for one very specific purpose but the gods can't seem to stop fucking with it so I'm putting it on the top shelf where they can't reach it anymore."
@kylesmith5633Ай бұрын
I love that after the dlc, “star wars” is an accurate title for elden ring.
@garrulousgoldmaskАй бұрын
Funnily enough, the showrunner for The Acolyte just revealed she was inspired by Elden Ring no-hit challenge runners!
@vilek_7235Ай бұрын
They even added Yoda as a mini boss lol the Demi-human Swordmaster Onze
@ironmonkey349Ай бұрын
Jarren was his best friend, they made a vow to die in glorious battle. Freya betrayed him. Also, the dlc makes me believe that Ranni's ending is the Good ending because of Yemir's line: We are all children of the stars, isn't that divine. An age of the stars would be an age bereft of gods, where the free will of the people rules.
@CreativeUsernameEhАй бұрын
That statue in the Haligtree Promenade is of Godwyn, not Radahn. The hairstyle on that figure does not look like Radahn’s. It looks like Godwyn. Remember how Godwyn defeated the dragons and then befriended and made peace with the dragons? That shows the strength and kindess Miquella was after. Radahn is a warmonger, and not at all compatible for an Age of Compassion or a gentle world. As you mentioned, Miquella calls Godwyn “Lord brother” in the Golden Epitaph and Castle Sol is to restore Godwyn’s soul. But it fails. But it’s clear Miquella wished to restore Godwyn… not Radahn. In the memory of Miquella, he doesn’t seem “happy” to be an empyrean. Rather, his voice sounds emotional and on the verge of tears. And although some assume he is speaking to Radahn, we don’t see Radahn there at all. Instead we see Miquella kneeling, hands clasped together, speaking to an empty room. He is praying to someone not there: Godwyn. Radahn was never the promised consort… he was the retcon consort. Even when working backwards with DLC lore, it still doesn’t fit together. It’s a retcon that ruins Elden Ring lore for the sake of Radahn return fanservice and an obligatory hard final bossfight. Poor Miquella, retroactively ruined. His other motivations ignored (Malenia?!) all for the sake of the Radahn retcon. The DLC ruined his character.
@variant6478Ай бұрын
the fact Godwyn's soul was what died means he couldnt be brought back to life in the most conventional sense (the cursemark of death says the prince of death perished in soul alone, so Fia didn't bring it back), and his body was so distorted and absorbed into the roots it would be incredibly hard for Miquella to bring it to the land of shadow and implant another soul into it. so in what manner could they have used Godwyn. imo its far more fan service to force Godwyn back into the story when his death was such a catalyst for important events.
@FelonOWАй бұрын
Then explain why malenia said what she said to rhadan in the battle of aoenia
@fakechloe207Ай бұрын
@@FelonOW The battle of Aeonia still makes no sense with the current dlc revelations anyway. The dlc ending is dogshit
@FelonOWАй бұрын
@@fakechloe207 yeah i agree i think theres a lot of unanswered questions for sure but i also believe thats intended becausse if you give all the answers it loses some of the magic behind the unknown. I wish the lore was a tad bit more fleshed out and i thought the ending was light weight for what the games are
@DonutSwordsmanАй бұрын
I think miquella sounds scared
@CosmoskindАй бұрын
When you read that one little item description on that set of equipment and see that one little quote and suddenly it feels like one big plot twist that puts a puzzle piece in place that makes the whole image look different.
@Women_RespecterАй бұрын
I like to imagine Miquella’s motivations are similar to CC from Code Geass. She too has an ability that causes anyone to love him/her. Maybe Radahn was so strong in heart and mind that he was able to resist Miquella. From Miquella’s perspective that would be a very interesting and captivating person
@AquatyxzАй бұрын
Goldmask’s Age of Order being the “best” ending was my interpretation after the DLC as well!
@boxman704415 күн бұрын
I think the biggest lore revelation of the dlc was that the greater will was never there to begin with, which recontextualizes and confirms a lot of suspicions, especially those of the Perfect Order ending (this only affirms my belief that it is the best ending)
@fgmcruz7 күн бұрын
"Radahn wants to ride Leonard, not Miquella" - GIVE THIS MAN A PRIZE FOR MARIKA'S SAKE 👏👏👏👏👏👏
@ivorywee1855Ай бұрын
So basically Miquella is Griffith, Radahn is Guts and Malenia is Casca with power
@HittingBandyАй бұрын
Ngl when you think about it, this is even more tragic. If Radahn did know Ranni needed the stars to open up Nokron, he literally could not or Miquella may have resurrected Godwyn to be his consort instead. the Carian house's final goal is literally gatekept by the sole threat of Miquella possibly acquiring a more powerful and possibly more brutal demigod if Miquella called Radahn of all people kind. Godwyn fought Fortissax during the war against the dragons, he was there fighting with Godfrey, while Radahn could hold up the stars, Godwyn was always the favorite child of Marika, and that meant he had something in him. Additionally, his curse, just like Morgott and Mogh are omens, Messmer has a cursed serpent inside him, Malenia had scarlet rot, and Miquella had eternal youth, probably was indeed the death blight. Imagine Miquella getting hold of the one person that could kill someone even with the rune of death sealed away.
@MgaugeАй бұрын
Seen like an obvious choice to me. Radahn and Malenia were the absolute strongest of the demigods. Malenia is loyal to him, but her Scarlet Rot infection would make her unsuitable to be a consort as she's basically a ticking time bomb. So Radahn is the obvious next choice.
@QuestionsleeppАй бұрын
Radahn and Miquella are half brothers, not step brothers
@SuperUniverseАй бұрын
I just realize something. Ranni had Godwyn killed. If Miquella refers to Godwyn as "Lord brother" Perhaps Ranni is sparing Godwyn from becoming a slave to Miquella
@lol-xu4fpАй бұрын
is the true and ranni is miquella and the part male of miquella is godwin and malenia say same things after you kill her
@RandomPerson28337Ай бұрын
I don't think so ranni only killed him as part of her plan.
@Tensh1nАй бұрын
These words haunt me, could it be that Mikella did not say this with good intentions?
@guighee7310Ай бұрын
Miquella is referring to Radahn, not Godwyn
@Tensh1nАй бұрын
@@guighee7310 he also addresses Godwyn this way if you read the description of Golden Epitaph
@Idea_of_LustreАй бұрын
1:40 I always find it funny how people can look at Starscourge Radahn, a selfish and power-hungry warmonger idolizing a similarly warmongering past, and conclude that he is a noble and generous hero despite all evidence to the contrary. Even the care for Leonard has a self-centered foundation. If it was actually motivated by a selfless desire to take care of him, he would've gotten the horse a retirement plan and grabbed a magical chariot or something. Learning gravity magic to continue to ride Leonard is a manifestation of the same character flaw that led to him holding back the stars. That being his inability to let go of a past and status quo that he was sentimentally attached to and held an undue reverence for.
@sebastianboyce678Ай бұрын
I don’t know about that, he’s described as kind and being much more than a warrior - which is why Miquella wanted him and thusly why he rejected Miquella
@AB-fl5xuАй бұрын
Yeah I am very surprised at this reputation people keep attributing to Radahn. He is a warmonger, corrupted by the Great Rune. You can see how rotten he had become in the story trailer of the base game. He looks demonic.
@shobooknightАй бұрын
What is this "all evidence" you speak of? I doubt he would be loved so much if he was just power hungry and violent.
@DepressedMicaiahASMRАй бұрын
He's cool and a baddass.
@RandomPerson28337Ай бұрын
Probably but comparing him to everyone else he is a saint.
@XHUERO3Ай бұрын
8:28 if you think about it, it's true horror all your family and friends, people you love, turn on you, cause they love miquella more ( a stranger)
@bavarian995Ай бұрын
What if Miquella is just Griffith, bewitching with love you as long as you oblige, just sacrificing you for his goals if you try to run. People often mistake him as this radiant entity of pure good will, promising a safe and bright future, while being an absolute narcissist monster. What if he only tried to safe his sister for his own good and all the lore we got from the basegame is just people (in game) misinterpreting, hence praising him as kind and loving
@theagingmillennialvarietyh7751Ай бұрын
“We CHOOSE to simp after Rani” Now why did you have to call me out like that, dude? I mean, it’s true, but I wasn’t expecting it 😂😂😂 Great video btw!
@garrulousgoldmaskАй бұрын
I was calling out myself, anyone else was just collateral damage 😅 And thanks mate!
@zinzolin14Ай бұрын
To me, Miquella in his flashback didn't sound excited, in fact he sounded terrified. His tone was like that of a scared child who was just reprimanded after doing something bad. That was possibly charming Radahn, which he would've taken offense to. He could've been pleading Radahn for forgiveness at the end.
@GrieveIV10 күн бұрын
It also may be possible that since Radahn’s motivation to stop the stars was for Leonard, he maybe was able to bypass the control of the great rune. Or the rune made him think only of kindness, resulting in Radahn going to the extreme for Leonard, and accidentally or purposefully halting the rune’s effects
@GvjrapiroАй бұрын
This seems like the kind of thing that works in a lot of ways in hindsight, but should really have had a bit more setup. Fromsoft excels at giving you most of the puzzle pieces and still shocking you with the final shape of it, and I think this was a case where we were missing too many pieces to feel that sense of “wow, how could I not have guessed?!”
@garrulousgoldmaskАй бұрын
Oh for sure!
@HenhousetheRedАй бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time an infirm prince piggybacked off his brother in a FromSoft game, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice, right?
@garrulousgoldmaskАй бұрын
You'd also have two nickels for every time we fought a femboy master manipulator who was the child of a powerful god who doomed our reality!
@gustavomartins7614Ай бұрын
What freija failed to understand is that her being accursed with scarlet rot was miquaelas fault in the first place.
@Cosmic_HorrifiedАй бұрын
Miquella is like the US with how he believes that endless global violence will somehow lead to peace.
@xcutioner5537Ай бұрын
I personally didn’t like radahn being the last boss. I should’ve been just miquella
@ChessheromusicАй бұрын
Miquella is very clear of his intentions Not I'll help the world not I'll teach them I'll make them "I'll make the world a more gentle place" "There is nothing more terrifying " It's really incredible that redahn held back the stars but was powerless to a eternal child And he is absolutely still very immature in his mind Making Miquella , with a child's mind , a literal god He is truly the most fearsome empyrean😮
@leictreonАй бұрын
So Age of Order remains the best ending, got it
@Cas-ed9obАй бұрын
"Woahhhhh, what are you trying to do to me, step-bro?" -rahdan, probably
@BasicallyBaconSandvichIVАй бұрын
I still think Ranni has the better ending over Goldmask. Goldmask just brings an Golden Order 2.0, slightly refined, with more freedom for men. But still with all other issues of before. Ranni upends it all, separating all emotions and desires of everyone from influence the laws of the universe (kinda like in our universe). Don't misunderstand, there will still be emotions and desires. There will still be free will. And people can still effect the world. However they won't be able to change the laws of the universe on a whim. But honestly, I don't think it matters that much. Both are nearly tied for best ending in the game, and it's personal preference which pushes the scale to one or the other. Fia's is also up there, but like the other two, it has it's flaws. And that's exactly the thing: there is no perfect ending. There are a couple of better ones, and a couple worse, but no single perfect ending. Each has it's strong points, things it excels at fixing. Yet each also has it's weak points, things it doesn't, or debatably, addresses. So I'm not judging if you prefer the one ending over the other, at least if you don't judge me preferring Ranni over Goldmask. And no it's not because Ranni is hot, have you seen Goldmask's arse?
@Cal2Or9iesАй бұрын
"Radahn wants to ride Leonard not ride Miquella." lol
@yao5921Ай бұрын
If you have to call someone with the kind in front every chance you get, that someone is probably the opposite of 'kind'.
@chibieris865919 күн бұрын
woah, the lack of falling leaves in goldmasks ending is an AMAZING detail to notice. that definitely sells me on goldmasks ending.
@kidoumaru4942Ай бұрын
Oh man, Miquella DONT WANT TO REVIVE GODWYN, for god sake everyone stay saying that, the sword description is "a sword made to COMMEMORATE the deathof Godwyn the Golden, first of the demigods to die, infused with the humble prayer of a young boy; "O brother, lord brother, please die a true death." NOT TO MOURNING BUT TO COMMEMORATE AS HE WANTS HIS BROTHER TO DIE, TO REST IN PEACE"
@owlbatross9187Ай бұрын
Fantastic video! Love the point about the circlet on the statue being possible evidence that Radahn was charmed. Keep up the great work!
@shanagbaimuru3926Ай бұрын
Interesting that I interpreted Miquella's "I'm going to become a god" very differently. To me he sounds extremely scared rather than excited, for he likely knows what becoming a God entails, which is why all of his actions have a very strong sense of desperation to not follow exactly Marika's footsteps. Posting my little twitter rant I had about this: Miquella literally takes us on assuming we're Marika's champion here to preserve her Godhood over his. Man's aware he's being hunted by us and is likely rushing things. Literally first time we get to see another agent in the world progress it's state without our direct involvement when the rune shatters, that's how hot on his trail we are, and we're canonically fiending to murder him since we're trying to become Lord. We're prime Godfrey hunting the Fell-God because the pretty woman of our choice told us we need to to be king. While he's not perfectly rational, I think people are overselling the "dumbness" of his actions. Namely that, he's following Marika's footsteps as much as possible, because as far as we and anyone else can tell, these are unnegotiable steps to transmogrifying one's "mortal" self into a God. He's operating under the principle that HAS to perform these steps to get to his goal. The failed Haligtree probably cemented this fact for him, that there were no shortcuts. It's clear to me at least that he's doing everything in his power to cause a different outcome while under these very strict restraints. Namely his consort choice is a very significant factor, but also the interactions with his followers paint a more interesting tale. One description that stuck out to me was the emphasis on Miquella uncompromisingly choosing Radahn for his kindness rather than the usual criteria which is "strongest homeless man available" that Marika used for vengeance. Radahn's kindness & non-physical strength was so particularly unique in the world to Miquella that he refused to even consider any other option even after all the years, instead making this very extreme plan to make sure Radahn was the consort because it was the only chance for the kind world he hoped for to come to pass after he would be forced to abandon all of his own humanity. Radahn's gravity magic I believe plays a huge role in this. Miq didn't want Ranni's ending, because the destiny of the stars is still a destiny. By combing Miq's severing from Marika's order & the greater will, Miq's use of unalloyed gold to resist influence of other outer gods, & Radahn's ability to halt the fate of the Stars, Miq truly could create his ideal world as free from these external actors as much as possible while also potentially being able to revive Godwyn now that the Eclipse can be pretty much toggled with control of the celestial bodies. I know it may seem like Miquella is just another God for the greater will, but he very clearly views you as a holdover/champion of the older order & since all the vessels for the Greater Will have to arrive via starfall, Radahn's gravity abilities allow for him to cut off any subsequent Elden Beast/Fingers from landing.
@onepiece666Ай бұрын
Congratulations on understanding way more than other people who just see Miquella as a little sick (physically) child, and not a demigod on par with his brothers
@shanagbaimuru3926Ай бұрын
@@onepiece666 Yeah it's kinda weird how many people are STILL under the impression of him being a childlike figure rather than an extremely respected being that's merely cursed
@onepiece666Ай бұрын
@@shanagbaimuru3926 Now we know how Miquella felt, always looked as a child. And also most people will hate you if you happen to be very good at making people follow you, one way or another. Wait till they heard about the dozen ways humans influence each other
@theresnothinghere1745Ай бұрын
"Namely that, he's following Marika's footsteps as much as possible" Disagree with this. He's trying to distance himself as much as possible from Marika. The whole thing about cutting parts of himself off isn't required to become a god, Miquella is choosing to do it as a means of removing the 'sins' inherent in him from his lineage. That's why he thinks he has to perform these steps, not because there is no other way but because he views himself as irreperably tainted by the sins of the order. That's why people consider him childish because he fails to recognize how the parts of himself he views as tainted are the parts of people he's trying to protect. In fact an npc even criticizes him on this by asking how he will save those who need saving when he abandons his other self that represents exactly those aspects. The end result is that he as a god now has no doubts or reason to not use his charm to rob the will of man to create the world he desires and its shown by him being very much willing to use that on you. Which just as the npc said will make him unable to protect those who need protecting, instead Miquella is going to change people into those who can be protected by following his will.
@foureyes84026 күн бұрын
Miquella's first choose was Godwyn as his consort for his age of compassion, but I believe Ranni tried to stopped or at least delayed his plan so her age of the stars could be realized. Severing the greater will's influence of her, she use the opportunity to kill 2 birds with one stone.
@Silly_IllidanАй бұрын
I wasn't convinced radahn wasn't a degenerate too considering the track record of all the demigods. But your 'primal instinct' explanation feels right
@maxkotkov9453Ай бұрын
The fate of the Carian royal family is guided by the stars. - Radan just wanted to escape being Mic consort
@facundovera3227Ай бұрын
Well, we know Radahn earned considerable renown as the Starscourge in his youth, and Miquella used to be a Golden Order fundamentalist like his father at first but later abandoned fundamentalism, for it could do nothing to treat Malenia's accursed blood. Radahn being older than Miquella could hint to the Starscourge Conflict happening before he made the vow. When Miquella and Radahn made the vow Miquella sounds terrified, like he's desperate to solve the world's problems so he devised a convoluted plan to become a god and replace the Golden Order. If anything Miquella is against the influence of every single god except himself, and Ranni is against the influence of everything except the stars. I find it plausible that Miquella needed Radahn _because_ he's capable of holding the stars back. I'd argue Radahn was honoring the vow they made because he had Jerren, an expert swordsman duty-bound to get him killed, who is seemingly his second in command as well, which means he might have wanted to secure an honorable death for himself.
@stephenlucas8836Ай бұрын
7:18 don’t forget Rykard and his blasphemy would also be stopped with the stars stasis. Would also also say if Rahdan wanted execet the vow after becoming the star scourge, his stagnant fate probably wouldn’t allow him to, or Sussecfuly become a lord. He may not even callable release his hold of the stars without outside intervention as he lacks a fate to unclench. Thamaticly, The only major thing that changed about Radeon after getting the rot was losing sentience.
@kaden1991Ай бұрын
I think Miquella needed Mogh's blood. His Hornsent heritage. I think it was Gideon who commented that no matter how much Mogh shared his bloody bedchamber with Miquella it made him no closer to creating the Moghwyn dynasty he desired. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the lord of blood would attempt to share his own sanguine essence with his God, and was ultimately infusing Miquella with enough Hornsent blood that allowed him to access the Realm of Shadow.
@ericjensen7580Ай бұрын
Hey Goldmask, I think the vow has been sitting in front of us since the base game. There is a church dedicated to it and a turtle pope who will tell you all about it. Miquella and Radhan did not make the vow, they are simply trying to honor it: "Radagon once cleansed himself with celestial dew, repented his territorial aggressions, and swore his love to Rennala. The Order of the Erdtree and the fate of the moon were conjoined, and all the wounds of war forgiven." This is the original vow. It is to repent of past sins (Miquella is trying to do this in the wrong way for the wrong reasons), unite Erdtree and Moon, and end the shattering war.
@eastward98Ай бұрын
I thought when Miquella said "I'm going to be a God..." he sounded afraid more than excited 🥲
@nemesisundead83Ай бұрын
Wait the hornsent were gods, hmmm so in the end there were plenty of bodies for the godskins not just Marika's children, well thats good to know i didn't think the Divine wall thing was made by the hornsent
@garrulousgoldmaskАй бұрын
I never thought about it that way but that would make a lot of sense!
@_Smile_TodayАй бұрын
No the hornsent aren’t gods they worship the Crucible (they are pagans) trying to make a god by using Merika’s people the Shaman, thats what you find in the Gaol in Bonny village
@obamabidenАй бұрын
they are described as having "tutelary deities" who it appears once lived among them in some form, and (lore from the ascetic outfit) it was apparently possible to become one from being an ordinary hornsent there's also the unspecified*divinity " the grandma calls on to inhabit the lion that may or may not exist finally she's also apparently an Empyrean, so hornsent have at least the potential to become Marika style capital-G Gods so they've got a lot going on religiously speaking
@EldenRingBuildsArchiveАй бұрын
Not quite all of them, but someone had the potential, think of it as the concept of apotheosis, with some Roman Emperors becoming Gods after death
@mr.e3123Ай бұрын
Miquella's Age of Compassion is the embodiment of the phrase "All will know of our peaceful ways, by force."
@AshesOfTheKingАй бұрын
Explains why so many hands in the Carian manor spying on Ranni or trying to capture her for Metri
@UltravioletNomadАй бұрын
The cutscene at the end and the figure in the statues HAS to be referencing Godwyn. Radahn loves his heritage and looks up to Radagon, but I have NO IDEA where people get this idea that he 100% loves the golden order or the greater will. The idea that he would pull freaking stars from the sky just to fight godlike aliens, does not sound like something in the best interest of the fingers. That statue is in no way depicting anything related to the choosing of a consort, it is clearly depicting the two afflicted empyreans seeking refuge in the hands of someone. While it could be cool to recontextualize that moment as the person giving refuge not doing so of their own accord, it seems to me that it would sooner represent the young demigods being assisted. And if they first tried Golden Order Fundamentalism to cure them, then it would more clearly be related to Godwyn the Golden, someone who actually practices it. After all, we need a reason to for Miquella to even try to revive Godwyn, they had to have been close, and that scene has to have been near or before the shattering. Getting Mogh and Radahn had to have been a plan B. But then there lies the problem, not every item description makes this sound like a plan B. Maybe it sounds different in Japanese, maybe its a retcon, maybe its just Fromsoft lore being intentionally inaccurate and vague. But IF they're serious about this one true consort thing, and IF they thought they were cooking by giving us a reason for Malenia and Radahns fight... well that's just stupid... we already had a reason for their fight. I mean the Shattering War and the Haligtree's altruism being opposed to the Redmane's opportunism is already enough, but Castle Sol gives us this great little mystery, and it might point to Radahn arresting the stars. And prioritizing this recontextualization of the lore, if that IS what this is, is kind of disappointing. We get no further context on Godwyn's relation to the Haligtree and the afflicted duo. And Radahn's a certified badass, and while I normally want characters to have a deep background, him avoiding Miquella takes away SO MUCH autonomy from him. Not to mention it makes Malenia and Miquella seem like idiots. Miquella has the power to charm people, and Radahn is just fundamentally opposed to Miquellas values. Not only could Miquella charm literally ANY demigod or would be Tarnished Lord, but he could just charm Radahn. If that cutscene is between him and Radahn, how the hell would Radahn not already be under that spell? Unless Radahn is resistant and Miquella... liked that? But Miquella divested his love, so why would we assume this is about Radahn being a perfect choice anyways. And if Malenia was trying to deliver Radahn as a consort, why reduce him to a mindless mess? Did they need too because hes resistant... why jump through so many hoops to choose someone whos resistant when literally WE, the Tarnished, are prospective lords but CAN be charmed. His plan ALSO hinges on a Tarnished finishing Malenia's job for them, and Malenia just thinks Miquella is going to return, but if she was in on this plan, surely she'd put together that Radahn needs to be dead now. I mean what the hell is Malenia even doing now? Ultimately me trying to justify this all is cope, because they make Malenia say that line. She wasn't there after learning that its Radahns fault the eclipse didn't come, shes there to deliver an unwilling mail order husband. And Mogh steals Miquella way when shes gone, and maybe possibly, she's in on that too... like if Radahn was of sound body and mind before their fight why would Miquella need Moghs body tho, he only needs Moghs body if Radahn is damaged beyond repair... so using Moghs body had to be an after thought after Malenia failed and he just wanted to enter the Realm of Shadow and Mogh lets him do that somehow, but now Radahn needs a new body... I want to believe there's a great story here but... it might just be bad... So like, Miquella tries rizz... someone, doesn't work (if its Radahn hes not giving up on him for... some reason) Tries to make his own Erdtree, doesn't work Tries to revive Godwyn, who may or may not have been the choice of consort, doesn't work Sends Malenia to get Radahn, maybe first, or maybe second, choice of consort Gets Mogh to steal him under pretense that HE could be consort, so he can access the Gate of Divinity and REALLY make a new Erdtree Malenia can't beat Radahn and instead leaves him a mindless beast, she may or may not know the full extent of this plan but who knows Miquella pivots AGAIN and hopes that some Tarnished kills BOTH Mogh and Radahn at the same time so he can Frankenstein them together And then gets his team of charmed tarnished to clear the way to the tower... why none of these charmed tarnished weren't sent to kill Mogh or Radahn is beyond me. Why we, the PROSPECTIVE LORD, aren't charmed during any of this, is beyond me. I suppose what I'm really getting at is that while it could be super cool entwine all these character's actions, and have them all be tied to Miquella's actions... this kinda takes the wind outta my sails with all the other implications it raises and the jumps of logic I need to take. But maybe Vaati will have some super secret and conclusive evidence that convinces me otherwise.
@spiralistichope9216Ай бұрын
Miquella sounding excited he was going to be a god in the memory? Really? I feel like he rather clearly sounded terrified, and this is backed up by his crosses which show the feelings he had to leave behind to become a god, such as his doubt, vascillation and love. The final cross at Enir-Ilim's Spiral Rise emphasizes it even more so, stating "I abandon here all my fear." I think Miquella wanted Radahn to be with him because of his fear, and what he would lose by becoming a deity (as we see from Saint Trina's questline and her desire for him to be slain), drawing from his childlike disposition. Miquella was afraid, but foolishly pushed forward anyway, compelling those around him and losing his humanity in the process. Edit: In general, while your interpretations are pretty interesting and valid, I do think it leans a bit too much into everything being a conspiracy of Miquella's or everyone being against him, which these lore figures are usually a bit more grey than that, both in Souls games generally and with GRRM's characterization style. We're not even really sure Radahn was controlled or whether he just wanted a pact of being beaten by Malenia in battle to occur before agreeing, it's purposefully left unclear. Miquella obviously errs in becoming a god, but he's not this evil mastermind either, I feel.
@mesmedorАй бұрын
Yeah, a lot of the theories right now depict Miquella as the evil mastermind behind everything terrible that ever happened. It's easy to see him as evil because he's manipulative, but that doesn't sit right with me either. He was built up to be more complex than that. We didn't learn about all he tried to achieve just to dismiss it as lies. I really like your idea that he wanted it to be Radahn because he was afraid.
@MeneltirFalmaroАй бұрын
The "vow" must have gone something like this: Miquella: Bro marry me Radahn: Sure kiddo, over my dead body Miquella: 👍 Malenia: Say no more Radahn: I am loath to admit it, but even at this very instant I wish to run very far away indeed.
@gianlucaherrera5472Ай бұрын
11:49 ranni could also be referring to Miquella, he’s seen by those who don’t align with the golden order as a monster that takes away people’s free will. Knowing how royal families have no problem with incest they could’ve intended to marry Miquella to ranni to keep their blood “pure”