Miquella's Full Story Explained (Elden Ring DLC Lore)

[@kishinpain]

"I'm sorry, Miquella. But my heart belongs to my horse"

[@clamzy7]

Woah wasnt expecting you here

[@crew_the3rd]

If Radahn can justify riding that under sized horse. Then Miquella can justify riding that over sized Radahn ... pause 😖 😱

[@christiancividino455]

But why is he riding Torrent in the official art and who gave Melina Torrent

[@James-9999]

Ayo???

[@lapislazuli3703]

And his Cat

[@Azaganna]

Did anyone notice Miquella after stealing your heart and saying let’s go together, stretches out his hands for yours just as Ranni did

[@samf.s.7731]

I got why she's got 4 though, it's because she's in a custom made Marionette But Miquella... Did he just see her and think "She looks cool, better look like that myself, and that one closed eye? I'm gonna close both of mine I bet that looks cooler!" 😂 Edit: Granted, her closed eye is because she's a busted doll eye, you know that kind that open and close as you lay down the doll or sit her right up. Yeah Miquella, not as smart as I thought he was.

[@anecro]

​​@@samf.s.7731you're glossing over deliberate character design decisions that have deeper meanings than just "oh that's broken". Don't forget that Ranni's doll body was constructed based on her teacher. Miquella could've assumed that personality and role, pulling some strings from way, way back. Either that or 4 arms signify something related to godhood or something those have in common that we haven't figured out yet. The closed eye is arguably even more important. Both Melina and Ranni have a closed eye and both times it is marked. Melina's closed eye is purplish as seen in the frenzied flame ending, possibly hunting at a connection with the gloam eyed queen who may have existed within the current realm of shadow. She was also in opposition to Marika, something shared with Ranni. There are a lot of coincidences here that I'm 99% sure aren't just that. We just need to dig deeper, Miquella's godhood form is extremely suspicious.

[@spracketskooch]

@@anecro Miquella was born after Ranni, right? After Radagon abandoned Rennala. So he couldn't be her teacher. Also, I'm fairly sure we never see both of Marika's eyes. Could be that in order to become a god, one has to give up an eye. Like Odin gave up his eye for wisdom.

[@x3papichulo3x78]

@@spracketskoocharen’t the soreseals in game the eyes of Marika / radagon ?

[@spracketskooch]

@@x3papichulo3x78 Didn't notice it, but now that you mention it, yes, sure seems that way.

[@yitoupig]

Miquella: I like you, and I want you. You can choose the easy way or the hard way. The choice is yours. Radhan: We are not gonna be doing anything in any kinda way. Malenia: Oh oh I see you choosing the hard way.

[@silentwabbit1065]

How is this not the top comment? :D

[@Arankchess112]

Miquella should have just chosen Malenia or St Trina tbh.

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

I think they made a vow that Miquella would give Radhan a honorable death

[@phuct4980]

@@RavenGamingOverLordIf Radhan knew about what happened when he make that vow, being used as a sock puppet with zero to no free will and inside one of his half brother corpse. He might heavily reconsidered it.

[@samf.s.7731]

There's no way he didn't consent, he matched on Leyendell against the Golden Order, and stopped the stars. His entire life he looked up to the two Elden Lords. But not even a scarlet rot nuke was able to kill him 😂

[@dbsin]

I was thinking that Radahn was chosen for a few reasons: 1) His personality was kind, so somewhat aligned with Miquella's ideals 2) He has the strength to be a Lord, seeing as how the past few Elden Lords needed to be strong enough to enforce and protect the will of their Gods 3) Radahn is probably the only sibling left who isn't 'tainted' by another God. Thinking of the other demigods who still live: Malenia has the scarlet rot on her, Messmer has snakes in his head, Melina was given a task by Marika to burn the Erdtree to make way for a new order (and being without a body and may be the gloam eyed queen or inheritor of that power), Ranni is possibly being hated for killing Godwyn, and Rykard is being blasphemously digested by a snake. Mohg and Morgott were out from the beginning since they were Omen, having traces of the Hornsent in them. And the Hornsent are susceptible to transforming into man-flies and/or going mad with aggression. Malenia going to Caelid to kill Radahn to get him to fulfill his 'vow', whether Radahn actually agreed to it or not in the first place, was also probably because Radahn was very much loyal to the Golden Order, and stuck 'holding back the stars' to do any weird 'consort to my brainwashing half sibling' shenanigans. What is interesting to me is that Miquella's journey to creating his order started when he realised just how flawed his mother's order of gold is, but in the end, he is still treading the same path as Marika. And while Marika tried to destroy her own order, with her other half Radagon trying to stop her because he represents Order, Miquella is trying to create a new order and his other half Saint Trina is trying to stop him out of love.

[@Archontasil]

Melina is also afflicted with an unknown curse (gloam eyed thing?) just like her old bro mesmer afflicted by a snake, his eye was replaced by marika. Both makes fine kindlings

[@willyoupunchmeyesyesyes5866]

"Ranni is possibly being hated for killing Godwyn" Ranni isn't hated, she is the biggest hater. If that femboy tried to mindfck with her she would unalive that boy so fast.

[@Gingerninja738]

A bit unrelated but you just made me think up that mesmer and melina could be twins because both are afflicted with curses both are born around the same time and it would follow the fact that all other children of marika have a set of twins mellina and miquella morgot and mohg. Mellina and mesmer. it makes sense that all of the twins are cursed ast the only child of marika left unaffected by curses is godwyn her only non twin it has no real solid evidence only speculative but you know its not completely impossible.

[@akarirei]

I agree. I doubt radahn wants anything to do with miquella to begin with… like, bro all this while i thought mogh was being the weird one but apparently it was miquella who’s gay asf? Mindblown.

[@NitoGravelord69]

“Mesmer has snakes in his head “ is my new favorite thing ever 😂

[@macc-qg3ku]

After fighting Prime Radhan, I understand now why Malenia had to nuke Caelid.

[@RossMullis]

Read my mind dude

[@nataniell6230]

To think it wasn’t even prime Radhan, didn’t have half the physical prowess the Starscourge had

[@phillmoore1561]

It wasn't Prime Radhan. It was Mogh's body and Radahn's spirit Frakensteined together. He doesn't say a word... or make any kind of noise. He's a puppet, created by Miquella.

[@noamias4897]

"Had to" bruh she chose to nuke half a continent for her brother to fuck their other brother

[@ShowtimeLaw]

That was not prime radahn, his armor is called "young lion" so he's definitely just a young radahn

[@MR-cf2bi]

I went and did exactly what you said. I even took it a step further, inheriting the frenzied flame and quelling it with the unalloyed needle after defeating both Plasidusax and Malenia. I then allowed my heart to be stolen by Miquella and recieved the "Let's Go Together" gesture. I moved on without killing The Lord and The God, finishing off Radagon and the Elden Beast. Unfortunately, I was left disappointed at Marika's body without an extra prompt for a secret ending. I tried using the gesture at Marika's feet without response. I also tried the "O Mother" gesture with the same outcome. I tried repeating both in Malenia's set of armor; also nothing to report. Maybe inheriting the frenzied flame was a mistake? I'm not sure. I'm very open to suggestions.

[@sloppyoctopus6940]

was looking for this comment. dam, would have been the so amazing if you could do that

[@Kayfear]

I'm afraid, even if they initially intended that kind of another ending, they eventually cut it. The dlc story is self contained, it doesn't affect main game sadly.

[@manthacake7881]

@@Kayfear Which is unfortunately a FromSoft staple. Still, I wish they would've given us a Miquella ending, or even two - either the "Age of Compassion" would've been essentially mind control for the denizens of the Lands Between, OR we defeat Miquella and Radahn and get to convince Miquella to repair his rune for us to attach to Marika in the end. Maybe it would've had the same outcome, or maybe the Lands Between would've been enveloped in the embrace of bounty. Idk, could've been cooler than it ended up being, imo.

[@Kayfear]

@@manthacake7881 I agree. It just makes sense narratively to have another ending involving Miquella. I suspect they couldn't decide how to implement it in the main game, or cut it due budget reasons.

[@Shirubakaze]

Thank you for your contribution.

[@ipip5516]

I love how Miquella has this meta narrative of gaslighting the audience very Miyazaki

[@Ale-ey3xv]

The bewitching branch always made me weary of miquellas intentions.

[@Dressyone223]

Honestly I did hope he was a good guy and while I don’t think he’s evil I still like the way the dlc went

[@VictorIV0310]

@@Dressyone223Me as well. Was hoping very hard that he would truly live up to being the kindhearted altruist that the base game built him up to be but alas.

[@caikv7781]

@@VictorIV0310 he's not evil, he just does not understand, as a god, that mortal beings want to have a free will. He has pure intentions but mortals would never abdicate their free will

[@breakies]

Hes basicly Madara thats Charismatic enough to charm everyone into believing the Infinite Tsukuyomi is good for them.

[@noamias4897]

Idk why everyone forgets that Mohg still kills maidens and lures tarnished into becoming his minions for his dynasty of blood in a literal SWAMP OF BLOOD

[@PekoXXL]

exactly🤷🏻

[@biggreen1456]

We don’t know now how much if that was Miquella’s doing, he can influence people more than outergods as shown by the golden needle warding off the three fingers

[@noamias4897]

@@biggreen1456 but what possible motive could Miquella have to make Mohg meet the formless mother and create his dynasty? If anything it's a hindrance because it made Mohg stronger and harder to kill

[@ruanvictorcabraldelima4752]

I mean so? Everyone in this game is fucked up, miquella wants to brainwash everyone, malenia nuked a whole region, radhan loves war, so yeah there's no good guy, so mogh is less bad then we thought

[@richardrussel4567]

​@noamias4897 the formless mother is basically the God of the occult and miquella needed occult magic to reach the land of shadows? Maybe sacrificing maidens had a part to play in the ritual?

[@jungtothehuimang]

I knew Miyazaki wouldn't be able to resist having his own Griffith

[@WorlBoss]

Facts 😂

[@average4154]

As Berserk stan, first time I've seen the statue of Miquella, I screamed HEEEEEEEEEELL NOOOOOO. I'd never trust a mf who looks like Griffith.

[@chargyisonline7790]

@@average4154 he's literally nothing like griffith lol

[@xmeatmymumx]

@@chargyisonline7790 a femboy boy that has god like hair literally all u need lmao its close enough

[@jungtothehuimang]

@@chargyisonline7790 He uses you, and uses others the way Griffith does. He intends to sacrifice others the way Griffith does. He can charm people, though Griffith doesn't have powers he is just very convincing. His looks also are pretty Griffith coded, apart from being a child. I kind of hoped Miquella wouldn't turn out like this but honestly it's Miyazaki, idk what I expected

[@Marco-fs9bs]

I think that Miquella didn't choose Malenia because she was an empyrean and a vessel for another outer god.

[@doolenny9458]

Also i think it is fair to say he did have feelings for radahn The item description and the way he speaks of them gives that vibe Aswell as how when you beat the boss you see miquella hug radahn as they both die

[@anecro]

​@@doolenny9458I believe it has less to do with his feelings and more with the fact that Radahn was literally the only person capable of telling him "no". Miquella, either due to being a child eternally or because he thought he should just get whatever he wants, couldn't accept that answer, so he found a way through his manipulation of his believers to reconstruct Radahn stripped of his own free will to get his way. I also believe he viewed Radahn as a powerful potential candidate who had no problems from birth, unlike Malenia.

[@doolenny9458]

@@anecro well we know why he had feelings for radahn He viewed radahn as something he wasn’t strong physically and unlike most people of thay power radahn was kind I don’t think radahn was chosen out of strategy but love When you defeat them you see miquella hug radahn whilst dying also the fact he faught alongside radahn at risk of himself

[@doolenny9458]

I also don’t believe radahn was against miquellas plan and miquella might not have even had his power over radahn since going of his rune breaking he would have lost control of mohg and while he has his grab he didn’t physically appear until the second phase of the fight

[@needmorequarts1081]

@@doolenny9458 ah yes another follower of miquella the twink, haven't you even considered that radahn was actually being controlled because he isn't riding Leonard in the last fight? There are no happy endings in Miyazaki games so embrace the despair.

[@Amferam]

Mohg beat the allegations! Mohg was Miqulested!

[@Zepimo123]

nah Mohg still freaky af. That's like blaming the child for being groomed cause they were not told better. Mohg is still a creep

[@RaewCZ]

unlike DrDisrespect Kappa

[@nfa_copium2479]

Miquella miquellested mohg to make mohg mohglest miquella

[@RaewCZ]

@@nfa_copium2479 did you notice he is after the big guys? He wants dat big D

[@邱俊融]

Miquella the Miqroomer

[@nobuffer101]

I’m willing to argue that Miquella pulled a Griffith and Radahn pulled a Guts for two reasons. 1) Miquella’s goal was originally just and based on compassion and kindness. The Outer Gods are responsible for toiling with everything they had loved in the Lands Between, every bit of suffering can be traced back to one of the many Outer Gods, and the only two people who have displayed a desire to sever that connection was Miquella and Radahn. Miquella admired Malenia who fought the rot she was afflicted with, but knew it would only delay the inevitable, it’s why he studies under Radagon and abandons the Erdtree to research Unalloyed Gold. Ultimately, his solution to sever the Lands Between from the Outer Gods was to become a god himself, and to do so had to abandon all that made him “human”, his kindness and love, his fears and doubts, even his flesh, Miquella separates himself from his once righteous goal through the darkest method possible. Forcing others to follow his ambition until they are no longer needed. Only then does he become an innocent monster. But he himself doesn’t want to do it, but knows it is necessary, as his other half, his original flesh, St. Trina, was aware that such an existence would be an eternal prison for Miquella, a fact she would know with certainty as his other half. 2) Radahn had also shared a love for the Lands Between and a desire to sever the connection between the Outer Gods that reigned over them. He did this by conquering the stars to prevent further influence and to protect his own family, the Carian royalty, from ever meeting their fate, which was dictated by the Dark Moon. But again, that too was an action that only delayed the inevitable, and could not ultimately solve the issue. Whether he agreed or rejected Miquella is only made clear by one simple fact, the aftermath of Aeonia. At the very least, it is when Malenia unleashed the Scarlet Rot does Radahn reject Miquella’s wish, despite either agreeing or rejecting the vow initially. This is shown by the sheer fact that Radahn resists succumbing to the Scarlet Rot. If he had completely agreed with Miquella’s plan he would’ve known he must die for his soul to traverse into the Realm of Shadows, and accepted the rot and died. But doing so would undo his conquest of the stars and allow his family to perish as their fate guided by the stars and the moon continue once more. Radahn did not want to save the world through Miquella’s method, nor did he want to be a puppet in his game of shared ideals. So he resists the Scarlet Rot and holds on to the stars even in his own insanity to prevent his death, and his soul from falling into the kind but inconsiderate Miquella’s hands. If even in his own insanity he wouldn’t harm or kill Leonard, in his sanity, he never would’ve agreed to betraying Jerren, Ohga, his loyal Redmanes, by letting Malenia harm Caelid if her only goal was him. The Scarlet Rot was Malenia’s last resort as she knew she couldn’t defeat and kill Radahn without it. But his fight with Malenia is proof that he rejected Miquella, and that Miquella would go through any means, even sacrificing his beloved sister whom he betrayed the Golden Order for, to get what he wants. Though their wish was the same, an age of compassion, someone who never betrayed their family, would ever serve someone who could so easily abandon them. Miquella’s compassion and love would be forced and false, a shadow of its original righteousness and nobility, which was long since abandoned with St. Trina. The Miquella Radahn might’ve followed, was not the Miquella who awaits him at the Divine Gateway.

[@KyngD469]

Big if True, did Elden Ring spoil the ending of Berserk?

[@Courier604]

@@KyngD469I just wanted to say that i feel amongst even other content creators, this hits closest to what i feel is “miquella” and his story. Theres been too many videos on the subject which seem to sidestep or forget Miquellas legitimate kindnesses, his ideals and work for others, and the very shedding of his flesh and the effect we know this had, particularly with the severing of St. Trina (aka Videos that claim Miquella was this horrific black and white manipulative evil or “insane”). In some ways Miquellas story is tragic,he truly did have noble aims and goals - and yes, he did some very despicable things to get there, but had he not shed his flesh and the essence of what made him “kindly” including but not limited to St. Trina - he might actually have created something worth savinf and worth fighting alongside him for. His mistake was discarding who he was to become this god - a fact echoed by St. Trina, who even asks us to take pity and save miquella, to forgive him. Miquellas story is heart-breaking and i feel like to many view it as this “he was the true evil manipulative bad guy all along” which missed so many key dialogues along the way that say otherwise. Kindly Miquella... I see you've thrown away... Something you should not have. Under any circumstances. How will you salvation offer...to those who cannot be saved? When you could not even save your other self? Miquellas story is tragic, what he could have become and offered for the actual salvation he did desire had he made different choices .

[@gimligloinson972]

@@Courier604I wholeheartedly agree

[@elijahherstal776]

Now I understand why Radahn had the Godslayer Greatsword in his tower basement.

[@jayjae6171]

holy shit that was a nice find.

[@yourtypicalniceguy]

Whats the connection? Isnt that the sword of the gloam-eyed queen?

[@blnkblnk9985]

​@@yourtypicalniceguy there is a theory that the gloam-eyed queen is melina, and now we know that she is the brother of messmer. As a child of marika, she might have been in contact with the other demigods. Torrent being the basis, melina gave torrent to us and torrent's master is speculated to be miquella, since ranni knows who torrents master is, that goes to show that perhaps melina and radahn might have interacted at some point. now this is all speculation, but i think melina herself has a split personality like marika and miquella, that being her and the gloam-eyed queen and melina is aware of this. (The lord of frenzied flame ending forced the gloam-eyed queen persona to finally take control, like what marika did to radagon and miquella to st. trina.) Now, if melina spoke with miquella and radahn before, then maybe radahn knows melina and her other self, and requested the godslayer GS weapon from melina in case miquella finally shows up and confronts him."

[@yourtypicalniceguy]

@@blnkblnk9985 ok I get what you're saying but werent the powers of black flame stripped after the defeat of the queen as the destined death that it was tied to it was sealed by maliketh and therefore blackflame no longer holds that power. It is also related to why Hewg is tasked with making "a weapon fit to kill a god," wouldnt the game be just about getting us to steal the godslayer weapon instead of it was capable of doing just that?

[@elijahherstal776]

@@yourtypicalniceguy it might have been a 'restoration project' work in progress, hence it being in the basement and not on his hip

[@blackvalio4060]

Why is nobody talking about the two finger's plot twist. They dont make communication to the greater will at all

[@nathanbutler7534]

Wait, they don't?

[@vashtanarada1729]

​@@nathanbutler7534 no, they were communicating with their mother. A very interesting plotline that I belive should be covered.

[@nathanbutler7534]

@@vashtanarada1729 interesting, any say on who their mother is? And is the three fingers a sibling?

[@karmapolice1337]

@@nathanbutler7534 lol yeah you fight the mother of fingers, and find out shes been trying to talk to the greater will and they have never responded completely abandoned , the 2 old ruins in the game are from the elden beast and mother of fingers

[@samf.s.7731]

​@@vashtanarada1729that's so cool! Then everything Enya said had been ... BS? Or at least just as liable to be false as any other outer God's philosophy or interpretation... Is that why Ranni killed hers? Hmmm

[@bacon-237]

"Sorry Mohg" we say in unison

[@miruajin6448]

Bruh even now he’s getting disrespected… it’s mohg 😢

[@jungtothehuimang]

Turns out Miquella has thing for half brothers

[@simonkisielewski3327]

We shall treat mogh with respect

[@agm5424]

Mogh: "It should've been me, not him!!!"

[@briannenurse4640]

I've been feeling for a while before the DLC that Mohg was being used by Miquella, not the other way around. The DLC just confirms it for me. Mohg wasn't a perfect person, but he's also not the creepy kidnapper we were led to think he was in the base game.

[@TheMrSherko]

That empyrean eye, so that explains why Ranni has a closed eye, she divested herself of it just as Miquella as a rejection of being an Empyrean. Why Melina also has a closed eye, hers must have been sealed by Marika after her rebellion (since she is most likely the gloam-eyed queen) as she only opens it after the Frenzy ending. Always wondered what the deal was with their eye.

[@SUNOGDRAGON]

Now that Radahn is using Mohg’s body as a vessel, I find it funny that he is now kinda considered a son of Godfrey, the person he idolizes XD

[@kostakonomi]

Yea i dont think he had any brain left as he literally never speaks in this fight and his horse is no where to be found this is the only thing you know he would never abandon as he loves it so much that he learned gravity magic to not hurt it when riding it

[@davidpitre5364]

@@kostakonomidoesn’t the horse perish with him after we defeat him in base game

[@kostakonomi]

@@davidpitre5364 i dont know if we kill it or not tho in his starfall attack that slams at us like a meteor the horse is in the ground helping him exactly where to aim

[@thesilliestgoose5990]

@@kostakonomihe’s essentially a lobotomized meat gundam for Miquella to pilot and use to kill anyone who opposes him.

[@haze1647]

​@@kostakonomiwell to be fair, his soul isn't full, resurrected yet

[@th3Daikine]

Just listened to a Deku Tree Video and the whole video especially the Haligtree having zelda background music just made me smile. Love ya, Bandit

[@anonfinally1692]

When Malenia stabbed herself and Radahn during their fight she was actually breaking her needle the one holding back the Scarlet Rot

[@vindex57]

Seems quite plausible

[@Saint_Mono]

would explain why we find it both in half, and at the center of the flower in caelid

[@curryquipique6098]

The same way Messmer broke his eye to let the Abyssal Serpent come out.

[@varsoonhks3211]

They literally fought to a standstill. Unleashing the rot was the only way for her to actually win. And even then, she still lost.

[@ReinerIsDaddy]

@@varsoonhks3211she didn’t. The game told several times they stalemated. Unless you mean she lost because she couldn’t fulfill her mission.

[@BottoEntertainment]

You knocked me for a loop with "hawk tuah". Well played!

[@lemmytron]

Also worth noting that "Miquella's body" in the cocoon shares an identical model with Morgott after you beat him..

[@aaronm9158]

It is similar, but not identical. The faces are different.

[@Mohmar2010]

It's a reused model

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

Not really same model but close enough

[@VAL420]

It's mohg, you just fought his blood.

[@trevor7514]

No way thats Miquella's physical body in that cocoon. No way dudes

[@Syhyronica]

another thing, sprouting an erdtree requires a SHIT TON of blood sacrifices (or at least its speclated as such), and it is speculated that the fleshy gate in the trailer and at the end of the final boss arena was the primordial crucible, a chaotic wellspring that all life originated from. a font of life that fuels the erdtree even to this day, as the greater will feeds on it like a parasite. miquella, not wanting to have to hurt others, threw out his compassion (Saint Trina) in order to establish a new order.

[@DA_Strom]

Miquella discarded his flesh. That is why his body is in the Lands Between and his spirit is in the Shadow Lands

[@zerobemix]

Hmm, maybe this is why we don’t find his actuall body parts? His flesh Mogh took them back and glued them? Lol

[@leonardomatias1863]

Just like Ranni real body, that would explain the "two faces" and "four arms" thing

[@ducminh7568]

@@zerobemix His body parts are the golden stick pop near the site grace in the DLC

[@XXXmarkysanXXX]

strange that we never see Miquella's fourth (real left) hand. If not only St. Trina was his literal part...

[@KyngD469]

He literally has sites where you discards his body parts. "Here I abandon my right arm..."

[@Florjb0rjTheFloorboard]

15:41 But heres the thing, all other Demigods (Minus Radahn, but his body was alright decaying) leave behind a corpse, Godrick has his stump, Malenia has her bloom, and Rykard's head is just sitting there.

[@0scarWalsh]

Plus Ranni's body is still there from when she burned it too.

[@Airaranae]

What about Messmer? Where is his body?

[@expertofplaying6734]

I don't think you can count these. Godrick was just just a distant relative to Godfrey (don't know why he is called a demi-god), Malenia leaves Aonias everywhere so I wouldn't call it a corpse and Rykard (or the snake) is immortal. You have a point with Ranni and by extension with Godwyn though. But I guess there were special circumstances, considering both just half-died.

[@zix5442]

free my boy mohg he aint do nothing wrong

[@eddieford9373]

Other being a bullshit boss fight where he heals half his health while forcing you to use most of your healing items or do less damage because you ise half your flask to deal with it. That's worth some hate.

[@ghxulish]

@@eddieford9373mohg was pretty fun in my opinion but i can totally see how he can be a pain in the ass

[@noamias4897]

Idk why everyone forgets that Mohg still kills maidens and lures tarnished into becoming his minions for his dynasty of blood in a literal SWAMP OF BLOOD

[@tehCostHD]

@@noamias4897yeah but he’s not a pedo so he gets a pass

[@noamias4897]

@@tehCostHD I mean he's definitely not the worst of the demi gods but he's also not a good person

[@1_Simple_11]

29:30 so I decided to do a run just like this, get grabbed by radahn and got miquellested just to try out if theres an alternate ending. Sadly there is not, ive gotten my heart stolen, ive speed ran through the base game and i see no summoning sign of miquella inside the erdtree, only the option to touch fractured marika and mend the elden ring. I should also point out that when i got miquellested miquella said "lord of the old order, let us go together" so i believe when youre fighting radahn you are in fact the elden lord. It takes place after you mended the elden ring.

[@Berserk0098]

i hope there is more to it. like the "May Erudition Light the Way!" emote that can open locked magic door. and we didn't even get credit scene after finishing the dlc.

[@1_Simple_11]

​@Berserk0098 ill test out if the emote "let us go together" will work if i do it in front of marika. Ill let you know if it does anything 👏🏼

[@1_Simple_11]

​@@Berserk0098 yep. I re-did everything. Got grabbed by radahn and got miquellested. Went to speed through the game and i used the emote. It does nothing unfortunately

[@bjayblast]

the "hawk tuah" genuinely caught me off guard so i'd say you earned your like lmfao

[@tayloro5795]

The best implementation of the meme yet. I about died laughing

[@bastianeiler8400]

I was so invested in the lore then the fucking hawk tuah meme popped up, instant follow and like to the video and channel followed :D

[@johndodo2062]

​@@tayloro5795that shit got old a week ago

[@LetMeGetAUhhh]

it's not funny and has never been funny

[@cagdasekinzohra300]

It ruined the scene for me

[@apexthelegend]

my mind did NOT understand how miquella was leaving stuff behind in the shadow realm, while also being in the cocoon at moghs palace

[@samf.s.7731]

Yeah, he'd already shed his flesh... Hmmm 🤔

[@anecro]

It's the shadow realm. His corporeal form remained in the physical world while his spiritual one had separated and was acting within the land of shadow. This is why he waited for Radahn to be killed in the festival, so that he could capture and re-purpose his soul in the shadow realm. At least that's how I think it works.

[@KyngD469]

@@anecro But he said he discarded his flesh in the shadow realm.... How did he discard a part of himself that's in the Lands Between? That's like double dipping

[@Issaviewer91]

Agreed, it's moments like this when you notice game creators make story lines and do too fucking much. To the point where the story doesn't even link up correctly anymore . I love this game but the plot holes are EVERYWHERE and it's like they just didn't give a fuck .

[@TheOBros3]

Seeing the Master Chief getting a weapon upgraded threw me for a loop lol, great video!

[@SilverNightbane]

My guess as to why there really aren't that many Albinaurics in the Halligtree (if any sans Loretta) is because they probably went to the Moghwyn Palace portal by mistake.

[@Paladin_Lawbro]

That’s actually exactly what happened

[@SilverNightbane]

@@Paladin_Lawbro Doesn't help it's in the same area.

[@LeggoMyGekko]

Weirdly enough, while we see no living Albinaurics in the Haligtree, there are cocoons which are shaped JUST like the 1st Gen Albinaurics, like we find in the Village of the Albinaurics. So it seems that any who make it onto the Haligtree die and the cocoons are how their “souls” are transferred to the Haligtree similar to Erdtree Burial. I do find it strange that there aren’t any second generation Albinaurics there though, perhaps they all end up getting lost and going to Mohg’s portal? Or maybe the Misbegotten were hostile towards them… Who knows

[@nathanbutler7534]

I don't think it was by mistake that the Albinaurics went to Moghwyn Palace, I think they we're following Miquella's presence or something and followed him to Moghwyn Palace

[@samf.s.7731]

And that's how that area became our go to place for farming runes in the base game LMAO 🤣

[@TheSilverwind93]

I think another reason Miquella chose radon is that its a perfect mixing of all the blood lines. Moghs body, child of Merika and Godfrey, rodan, son of ranalla and radagon, and Miquella the son of Merika and radagon, makes them the complete combinations of merikas children.

[@andrejnovak]

who is Merika? And who is Rodan? And who is Ranalla?

[@TheSilverwind93]

@@andrejnovak lol ya ya ya i didnt check the spelling before hand, i trusted in the ability of adults to figure it out.

[@garethlawton5278]

@@TheSilverwind93and we trusted you would be an adult and have actually feasible theories. Too bad.

[@TheSilverwind93]

@@garethlawton5278 Jesus, it's a video game you child. Go touch some grass and chill out.

[@TheSilverwind93]

@@garethlawton5278 also you tacobell smelling little geek, what about what I said was not "feasible" the world building was helped with by gorge rr Martin, who we know uses bloodlines his work, along with the fact the "golden lineage " is a huge mystery in ER. On top of that these games are intentionally vague so that the player can essentially create their own lore. So everyone's theories are supposed to be possible. So sit down you 15 year old edge lord before I school you for being a little brat

[@PerfectlyLost]

YOU MONSTER. HOW DARE YOU SPOIL ME... I was just looking for a comprehensive video on the entire story and journey of Miquellas life. HOW WAS I SUPPOSE TO KNOW THERE WAS SPOILERS... For legal reasons this is a joke. Great video, man XD

[@adolfpotatoler7624]

I think bro's lost

[@visibledarkness1181]

If not tell him to get lost

[@visibledarkness1181]

Specifically his sanity

[@sse12345]

Bro is lost

[@jonathangoodwin5609]

It literally says DLC Lore.

[@leakydolphin4709]

Wow, I never even thought about that theory about the third ending. I am only about halfway through the DLC, but I am definitely going to test it out.

[@samf.s.7731]

A lot of people have brought up that they wanted to see that ending. I am curious too, for sure!

[@angelo423]

There's no third ending, you're welcome

[@chumorgan443]

Mohg finally becoming consort. " Not like this..."

[@ayemjake]

As for why it wasn't Malenia. 1. Well for starters, she's under the watchful eyes of an outer god, namely the god of rot, which could clash with his goal of achieving age of compassion. 2. Secondly, both are empyreans, which would essentially mean that two of them are competitors (by nature) towards godhood.

[@delta_1632]

I don't believe Radahn refused the vow and actually accepted, however that doesn't mean they can't end up on opposite sides. Let me explain, what I think the timeline looks like: In their youth Miquella asked Radahn to make that vow to become his king consort. I believe Redahn accepted, since his name in the final fight is promised consort, implying a promise was made, as well as the vow being honored, must mean a vow had to be made in the first place. Now if Radahn made that promise willingly/or due to Miquella's charm is another matter. This vow stood tall until Miquella got disillusioned with the golden order due to it not being able to cure his and Malenia's affliction. Miquella turned his back on the golden order, Radahn stood by it and now they were on opposite sides. Radahn now doesn't want to keep up the vow. Miquella tries to manipulate Radahn with his charms, however Radahn due to being from the Raya Lucarian royalty has his fate tethered to the stars, so by halting their movements he can resist the kind of enchantment Mogh and everyone was under. I believe that is the reason Radahn originally challenged the stars. So Malenia is sent to fight Radahn in order to make him keep the vow. She nukes Caelid in the process, but doesn't succeed, since Radahn manages to not only survive, but keep living with the help of his great rune keeping the scarlet Rot from killing him. The tragedy here is, Radahn even in what is basically his death manages to hold on and keep Miquella's plan from succeeding, until we come along and go through the events of the Redahn festival. The rest is explained ingame already. Mogh gets brainwashed by Miquella and forced to bring him to Mohgwyn palace, where we kill him like Miquella wanted, becoming probably the most tragic character in the entire game in the process. Miquella puts Radahn's soul into the body and resurrect his Frankenstein's Redahn as the Consort that was promised so long ago.

[@XERX_740]

Well if Radahn accepted or went through with the vow only because he was under Miquella control then obviously he refused the vow himself

[@dshearwf]

This is definitely biased by my own view about Miquella, actually not being a truly benevolent person as everything he does is self centered, even the curing of Malenia. But maybe that vow was something different in the beginning and Miquella actually held back what it truly entails, namely becoming his consort and creating basically a whole new world. The vow initially maybe was something along the lines of forming an alliance to end The Shattering by joining forces and rebuild together after ending the war. Just because I believe, while Radahn definitely was loyal to his lineage and Godfrey and Radagon being his idols for the champions they were, I can't see him being the biggest fanboy of the Golden Order itself. He doesn't use any incantations and outside his basic infantry donning the "standard" attire with his colors, literally nothing symbolizes The Golden Order in his domains, quite the contrary, he is deeply aligned with Glintstone magic, Caria and their rituals with one of those giant half bowls right in his courtyard. Not even his men use incantantions, they all use Glintstone magic stuff. I think he never intended to recreate the world and get rid of his beliefs. He also loves war and in a "Age of Compassion" there is no war. What would be his place there? That's against every fibre of his very being in addition to the fact that he has to become the consort of his "little" brother, which could have weirded him out even more. So, I think, Miquella definitely tried to talk him into his weirdo plans some other way and Radahn realized in time and took his measures fully realizing how powerful both Miquella and Malenia were. Also, I feel like Radahn was the winner at the end of it all. He may have been mindcontrolled in the last dlc fight, but he got to fight in his prime and truly earn his death burying his enemy alongside him with a worthy and incredibly powerful tarnished as the victor and someone who picks it up from here. After all, this is what Radahn revered all of his life: True warriors and the art of combat. I can absolutely not see him ever having revered Miquella as he is the complete opposite to that and then without any shred of honor on top of that.

[@briannenurse4640]

@@XERX_740 Yeah, gotta agree here. A "vow" made via compulsion wouldn't be a vow freely given. But it's possible a younger Radahn agreed without recognizing what he was really doing. Maybe people had a habit of treating Miquella as a child because of his appearance, and Miquella banked on that fact. Who knows?

[@delta_1632]

@@XERX_740 Yeah but the end result is still him accepting the vow initially. I personally believe Radahn accepted willingly, since how would he free himself from the charm to begin with, after succumbing to it that early on. Miquella wouldn't relinquish control if it was necessary for Radahn's compliance. And also you gotta remember, in the beginning that vow was completely fine from Radahn's perspective if he liked Miquella. Only once Miquella wanted to abandon the golden Order and prrsenst World itself him becoming a god could be considered a bad thing. Radahn accepting that vow in the past of his free will isn't a stretch.

[@adanneo6580]

@@delta_1632 Well Miquella was pretty much on good terms with the golden order. His relationship with Godwyn and Radagon are proof that he was okay with it. So Radahn accepting the vow make sense cuz he thinks it was the "benefit" of the golden order, until Miquella abandon it all after witnessing everything the golden order/Marika had done to the rest of the lands between

[@ilGG-it9mr]

thank u so much for mentioning that last part of the gameplay trailer since the dlc dropped i've been looking every where to see if anyone has got to that cutscene but just no one talks about it

[@angelo423]

It's almost like it was promotional material and not an actual cutscene, crazy right?

[@JamesStrugglingSwordsman]

I more like the idea the Radahn was the one person capable of resisting Miquella’s manipulation. It frames the situation much like the 2nd battle between guts and Griffith where Guts is the one person that Griffith can’t have, so he desires him even more

[@samf.s.7731]

Pffffff Nope. The lore is written by GRRM bruh

[@KyngD469]

@@samf.s.7731 GRRM made the characters... Miyazaki wrote the lore...

[@the_honey_badger2435]

@@samf.s.7731 GRRM made the world and characters then Miyazaki through it into an apocalypse war with a lot more messed up things.

[@jackcois6077]

@@samf.s.7731 There is literally a gravestone for Miura in the game. The Erd tree, a core component of the lore and the story is entierly bassed on the world tree from Berserk. This game and especially the DLC is a love letter to Berserk. Fromsoft's game and character design has for many years been heavily influenced by Miura's work. Artorias from DS1 DLC entire design is just Gut's in berserker armour. Here is also just 5 extremely specific ways within which Miquella is Griffith. 1: Both of their bodies are host's to a child and a god, the moonlight child and Femto/ Griffith, Saint Trina and Miquela. The gods both being held back by the child who they have to remove from themselves to become more powerful. 2: Both had to give up what they held closest to them to gain godhood, Griffith sacrificing the band of the Hawk to the Behlit and Miquela sacrificing Melania to kill Rahdan so she had a consort. 3: Both create a divine tree and use it to bring 2 different worlds closer together. Griffith killing Genishka and using his body to create the world tree bringing the human and spirit worlds closer together, Miquella growing the Halig tree and parting the veil over the land of shadow. 4: Both form a militia through their powers of coercion, Griffith through both iterations of the band of the hawk and Melania through mind control over multiple groups. 5: Both characters core driving force for what they do is to become the ruler of a safe and prosperous kingdom, Griffith's current kingdom in the manga is very arguably the best place to live in the Berserk world and Miquela's age of kindness. All of those points also ignore how Miquella's character design especially in the DLC is extremely similar to and based off of Griffith's design. Miquella's entire character ark and actions are Griffith's. You are very very much wrong you dismissive fool.

[@tylergamer2695]

Bro the backstab on the misbegotten while you’re talking about how the haligtree is a gentle place for the downtrodden was peak comedy.

[@BigBilly2009]

If we draw parallels to Miquella being Griffith (too many similarities) and Radahn being Guts (since he is THE chad of the universe and has all qualities of Guts i.e. being extremely strong while being extremely kind), it is safe to assume that Radahn must have made the promise long ago in their childhood as perhaps a part of a child's play. The problem was Radahn grew up whereas Miquealla did not, just like Griffith and Guts. Radahn chose to follow his own path while Miquella held on to the childish promises made in a much different time long ago. And just like Griffith, Miquella's mind goes completely cuckoo when Radahn or Guts says No.

[@Ariviste]

How was Miquella supposed to "grow up" when he is afflicted with eternal childhood both mentally and physically? Miquella is more like a kid with benevolent intentions that made mistakes along the way, partly because he is eternally a child, rather than someone like Griffith who just wants absolute power for himself alone.

[@TrueReverse74]

​@@Ariviste Was it ever said he was forever mentally a child?

[@Ariviste]

@@TrueReverse74 I'm going with the information presented i the video which does say so around 4:45

[@BigBilly2009]

@@Ariviste I don't think that his affliction is supposed to be applicable to his mind though. Also he did make elaborate plans and tools to solve issues across Lands Between especially with his siblings so clearly he is not so childlike that we all want to think.

[@Ariviste]

@@BigBilly2009 Yeah Im also skeptical of the claim that Miquella is mentally a child I just went with it because thats what was told in the video

[@thegameknight5906]

19:46 “Dang this is great, I love watching lore videos… wait WAS THAT MASTER CHEIF?!?!”

[@MrWinthrup]

This may be a crazy theory of mine, but after reading Leda's sword and what its ability can do (cure the attacked of all aliments and buffs), I think that Miquella may have finished his needle. Because if it can do that, that means it can cure Scarlet Rot. So I wonder if he couldn't do that before the land of shadow, or what if he didn't cure Malenia on purpose at some point? Maybe, it helped his plans. Oh and I just remembered, I had the thought that the Blacksmith must be one of the last Hornsent survivors. He mentions how he saw how terrible Marika was.

[@illyria7756]

I was wondering about him curing Freya, before the lands of shadow..with a kiss? So wait, if he could do that, couldn't he give his sis a daily goodnight kiss to rid her of the rot? If one wouldn't be enough.. He cures a random stranger instead. If he would be unable to cure Malenia, maybe cuz she's the source of the rot, a direct link with the rot god, how about healing the lands and creatures she poisoned during the fight that he himself ordered? Sometimes it feels like he wasn't trying to cure Mal, at least not anymore, he was only containing the infection. Until a moment he could use the rot, like with Radahn? Idk, but its a bit weird, especially since we learned he could just casually heal Freya with a kiss.

[@1Fye]

I don’t think this is crazy at all, rather it’s pretty plausible. I never even considered that Hewg could be Hornsent, so that’s a huge revelation for me and it makes perfect sense, as Marika’s guilt about her genocide of the Hornsent probably started her assignment to Hewg, to create a weapon that could kill a god. It is quite ironic she would task someone of the race she spent so much of her life despising to do so too.

[@aaronzeezer]

Just my own thoughts, but I curing afflictions and curses are two separate things. So while it’s easy for Miquella and his needle nights to cure people afflicted by scarlet rot, it’s difficult or impossible to cure Malenia of a curse from an outer god. He’s found a way to cure scarlet rot, but not rid Malenia the curse that gives her scarlet rot. Which is why in her case, the best solution is to halt the spread of it.

[@1Fye]

@@aaronzeezer I was under the impression that Miquella was pursuing godhood so that he could definitively stop all influence from the Outer Gods and usher in an age where only he had the power to influence people. I would also like to mention that using Miquella's Unalloyed Needle eliminates the inheritance of the Frenzied Flame on your character(after the 3 finger ritual), which seems to be more than just it's influence, but a physical manifestation of power as it needs to be transferred or given. In this regard, I personally think he has at least the capability to partially cure or erase the effects of Outer God powers to some extent and not just halt the spread of it.

[@LunaRyuu]

​@@1Fye Hewg is a Misbegotten. He has the same model as them with little wings and a tail. He isnt hornsent

[@deadnoobie2859]

25:00 I disagree with this conclusion and the assumptions made to reach it. First, it was clearly difficult and convoluted for Miquella to reach the land of shadows, meaning the Radahn likely couldn't have 'just gone with'. Second, its repeatedly implied when mentioning the vow and promise, that Radahn was part of that. What exactly the vow and promise were explicitly, we don't know. Third, your own comment and understanding of him not backing down to Malenia because he is the war general also counts against your assumption that he would just go along with no issue if he had agreed and therefore he must not have agreed. He very well could have agreed under the stipulation that Miquella could have him/his soul as consort once he is defeated in combat. As a general as renowned as he was this seems more likely imo. This also feeds into why he wouldn't just attack Malenia when he had the upper hand as you suggested he could have, but instead wanted to fight her on equal terms and was more concerned with his honor and the fight than he was in preventing his soul from going to Miquella. And even further back to my original point, Miquella had to leave his body behind to enter the land of shadow. It isnt impossible to assume Radahn had to be killed for him to join Miquella in the land of shadow as well. I genuinely suspect, considering the wording used and how its repeatedly said that he is the 'Promised' consort, that Radahn accepted Miquellas proposal, but under the stipulation that he would be Miquellas consort only once he was defeated in combat. Or possibly that he agreed but only IF he could be defeated in combat. Both of these scenarios make more sense in what we know of Radahns character, how the story played out, as well as fits the dialogue more accurately.

[@faselbaum]

Did my man just beat vaati to a lore video? 😎

[@RandallBalls]

He takes a lot more time and Care in his videos than most people

[@richardrussel4567]

That's not hard, vaati posts once a winter solstice

[@samf.s.7731]

Yeah and tbh all the lore videos released till now have at least one of more major gaps in logic. I still await Vaati and Smough, maybe Gingy may have something? Love bandit's work though!

[@elementoflight6834]

Vaati and our community is too stumped at all the inconsistencies between the DLC Miquella and Marika and the base game ones. Because everything Miquella did before the DLC is very opposite to what he does in the DLC

[@varsoonhks3211]

@@elementoflight6834 Not at all. Your reading comprehension being shit doesn't make the text inconsistent.

[@Sven-wu2ek]

For the Radahn not agreeing to Miquellas plans the only thing i want to point out is everyone says "promised consort" which kind of implies he promised he would. Of course it could just be Miquellas promise and hes gaslighting him into thinking he agreed. However, I like to think that initially Radahn did agree maybe because he was young and had no attachments. But after his life experiences he couldn't just die. He had to hold back the stars, he had to protect Selia, he had to be with his soldiers, and ultimately he wanted to die in battle. So Miquella sent Malenia to make good on his promise. I also want to know if Malenia was under Miquellas charm as well. Because in my opinion it could be either way. Shes super loyal to him, but that could be for the obvious reasons. I also think she couldn't be his lord, even tho itd be the easiest option, because she is an empyerean herself and because she holds the scarlet rot. Just my own thoughts.

[@BanditGames]

What did you guys think about the final boss of the Elden Ring DLC? Satisfying or no?

[@ScarletHaze]

Heck yeah Was hoping they did a bit more with mesmer though

[@ShikiRyougi05]

Peak fiction.

[@Amferam]

After the specticale wore off I was very disappointed. Everything felt like it was building to Godwyn being the final boss. Also phase 2 is bullshit.

[@Zepimo123]

I don't like the lack of new interactions or new endings in the base game after beating the DLC. Idk, the player should be able to tell Malenia about Miquella, or Renalla about Rellana, or hell, Melina about killing the Lord of the frenzy flame? idk kinda disappointed in that regard. also the lack of alternate endings to the actual dlc is a bit odd as well, makes it so the choices with St Trina for example amount to literally nothing.

[@ShikiRyougi05]

@@Amferam literally NOTHING was building up to godwyn. Radahn on the other hand had a whole questline as build up.

[@punisheddante5879]

This is the only video ive seen pointing out the missing cutscenes from DLC trailer, so far there are 0 info about secret endings but I'm still holding out hope

[@frankiefromky]

10 out of 10 jump cut of all time... u gotta give 'em that hack tuah!! LMAO 🤣 I'm ded 🤣

[@milos.requiem]

I think the concept of "two" showing up a lot is a persisting theme Miyazaki has been telling since dark souls. Its representative of the duality of man and the conflict that comes from it

[@willsword8100]

Makes me wonder, which happened first, the night of black knives or the Promise Vow of Miquella?

[@TheNamezZ]

Gonna assume the vow after the shattering miquella seemed ego already be doing his haligtree business.

[@willsword8100]

@TheNamezZ because I stand by the idea of the age of stars, not directly interfering in the lands between. All other ends feel very overbearing.

[@TheNamezZ]

@@willsword8100 I agree although I think goldmask ending is the actually the best. A golden order with no god and death returns making erdtree useless. A world with no god is chaotic in nature but better than living in falsehood. Miquella would’ve been perfect for a world such as the goldmask ending as he could’ve been who he was meant to be as a saint wandering the world saving those who needed it without having to be in complete control as a god with no will.

[@willsword8100]

@TheNamezZ but free will much remain. Also, Marika and Radagon deserve to be smacked for betrayal of their respective spouses. Godfrey deserved better, and Rennala deserved better. Hence why I stand by the Age of Stars. And as It must be an Empyrean to be successor and seeing how we (as of current date) cannot side with Miquella or Melania, Ranni is the horse to bet on.

[@gordonoboh833]

24:32 A testament to Radahn’s strength. Radahn is fighting Malenia without killing intent with the goal of stalling her and sending her back to Miquella empty handed, but Malenia came with the goal and intent to kill and she still had a fucking hard time and she had to resort to some desperate tactics. What hope does our tarnished have in surviving any fight with Radahn.

[@Cayden.1]

all while holding back the stars

[@gordonoboh833]

@@Cayden.1 I completely forgot about this.

[@varsoonhks3211]

And Malenia still lost.

[@gordonoboh833]

@@varsoonhks3211 more like a rough stalemate, Radahn had his mind fucked up, Malenia wore her body up.

[@robertarias7059]

Again um why is the reason malenia is fighting radahn

[@LeoParejaAbbate]

The twilight princess song at the beginning 🤩

[@thalesvinicius2571]

15:45 not only the bodies of the omen twins, Godrick's, Rykard's and Malenia's bodies too remain in some way after we defeat them. a withered husk, a broken giant head and the giant aeonia flower. the only demigods that disapear like other bosses are Mogh and Radanh

[@Halfgnomen]

i'd imagine if there is an ending it involves the frenzied flame needle

[@Midnitethorn]

I've been waiting for this! Please keep making Elden Ring content. This DLC was really shocking but interesting. My one complaint is I wanted more boss cutscenes. Side note, but I wonder if the body in the cocoon is Mohgs? Atd the Mohg we fight is a apparition? Idk. It's all still confusing, even more so now (like we all knew it'd be 😂)

[@petrstraka7334]

I didn’t expect zelda music as background music

[@Kuron_san]

I was looking for this

[@metalreita]

I believe the reason that Miquella chose Radhan was, that Radhan learned gravity magic to continue ridding his horse. In a young child's mind, which Miquella seems to display, that would have be seen as an act of kindness in a world so cruel and unforgiving. Therefore he saw Radhan as fitting to be his Lord Consort. I know, it's quite a simplified reason. But seeing it from a young child minded perspective, it makes good sense. It's could be in Miquella's eyes: "Everyone is fighting and doing cruel things for self gain. But big brother Radhan learned gravity magic to aid his horse, yet he did not have to. He must be a good and kind man"

[@LunarBloodRose27]

Bookmarking this for when I finish the DLC

[@HadiaVin]

update?

[@LunarBloodRose27]

Bashing my head against Messmer lol

[@BlueFlamer-vq1iv]

Ansbach during the battle: Radahn your skin is not your own

[@onesecgaming8102]

Miquella the tickela 😞

[@KyngD469]

Bro thinks he's Drake

[@chrisjulien7698]

Christ bless you, i love how crazy the story has gotten

[@GODWYNDEATHPRINCE]

The emote you get during the second phase when grabbed twice!! Maybe if it was used during the boss fight!!! I didn't finish your vid when I made this comment😂. Great to see we came to the same idea of a another ending.

[@ZachPrime]

The whole Revelation that he is eternally youthful not only in body but in mind fully makes me believe that the whole "promised consort" business played out exactly like a kid saying she's going to marry their teacher when they get older. "Big brother, when I become a God will you be my husband" "Yeah, sure thing buddy." And he's just like well, you promise so you got to keep your promise whether you like it or not. Actually horrifying.

[@N13J]

The mind of a child is truly a terrifying place. As some man child once said “Kids are cruel Jack, and I’m very in touch with my inner child”

[@zachspath494]

So basically miquella wants to force a perfect world on everyone.

[@yurinoworry]

6:15 gave me big “the brother’s code” vibes in the BEST way

[@royalfoxy7935]

I haven’t gotten to play it yet but I started up a new save file for the dlc a month or so ago and I just got back into the game and I beat mohg just like 5 hours ago and I’m getting the dlc tomorrow I’m super excited for it

[@aBitTedious]

Make sure you are at least between the levels of 120-150. Most people are over exaggerating how hard the DLC is. But those levels will make you have a comfortable amount of health and endurance because the DLC isn't really meant for leveling up I would say. I need around 300,000 souls to level up once so it's mostly about the gameplay and experimenting with new items and spells

[@RandallBalls]

Unless you're a Pro Gamer it's definitely as hard as everyone says it is. The first two enemies I came across killed me like 10 times each. So I gave them the Sentinel treatment and came back later. Then I realized trash mobs kill you in two hits

[@pasunna]

level is not really matter the new fragment system is more important just look for it first for easier run

[@klashikari7930]

One very important lore implication that was lost in translation was in the description of "Light of Miquella". In English, the text says " Miquella sought to accept all that was and would be, but found one that refused to be embraced. No wonder, as one god, and one king consort, is all the world needs." However, in Japanese, it says this instead: "ミケラは、全てを受け容れ、抱こうと望み だがひとつだけ、そうできぬものを知っていた 絶対の神も、その王も 決して並び立つことはない" Which translates into "Miquella wishes to accept and embrace everything/all. However, he knew one that refused to be embraced. The absolute god and that Lord They would never stand equal/would never stand together". As far as I could share my opinion with other JP players, they also concluded that sentence refers to the relationship between Miquella and Radahn, and the latter was definitely not vibing with Miquella's idea. This would explain why Radahn was pretty much acting like a puppet even when Miquella claimed Radahn soul was back.

[@BIGESTblade]

Radahn is chad. He was literally offered the world and he said no purely out of loyalty.

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

I don’t think he said no to Miquella but sure believe whatever you want

[@samf.s.7731]

He ... didn't His loyalty is with Miquella. You honestly think he wanted to be his step mom's (Who's also his dad) consort? Then why did he march on Leyendell and clash with Morgot's forces? Or halt the stars to stop Ranni's fate? That won't add up at all.

[@deadmanplays2684]

@@samf.s.7731Then why sent Malenia to kill Radahn?

[@BIGESTblade]

@@samf.s.7731 Considering he was a huge fanboy of both Godwin and Radagan -yes. The reason why he went to Leyndell was because Morgot was an omen who aren't the most popular people around. If he had any intention of becoming Elden Lord, he would've done so. Radahn was the strongest demigod besides Malenia, who had no intention of fighting him at first.

[@akalichamp7030]

@@samf.s.7731 Radahn is literally stated at several points to be a borderline fanatic of Godfrey and a fanboy of Radagon. He was obsessed with the Golden Order at every turn and even had its iconography imprinted into his armor. He was a Golden Order loyalist through and through. Also, do you really think being his brother's consort is much better than being his step mom's? Lol

[@kag2576]

18:35-The one thing that seems to throw a wrench in this for me is that Torrent is given some kind of recognition i.e. they seem like a specifically important steed, since Ranni recognises and even seems to respect them. Plus there's how Melina seems to rely on them for guidance to find us in the first place, a lot about them is shrouded in mystery

[@AM_61102]

I like the twist on miquella’s antagonistic ways, while his intentions are pure he is still naive and not aware of the full extent of consequences of his actions. By abandoning his “love”, aka St. Trina, those who followed him begin to question his motives and even one spirit can be found that asks how they expect to be saved by someone who couldn’t save his other half. He also has a lot of empathy, perhaps too much, and takes it upon himself to carry the burdens of his family’s past and their afflictions and that’s why he does what he does

[@AM_61102]

I like to think one of the writers for the game looked at the safety episode from Gumball and based Miquella off of Darwin

[@gugno284]

Your choices for background music are fantastic

[@chaincat33]

Actually seeing Miquella in the dlc, that's not a prebuescent child. That's a young adult or very late teen at the youngest. Miquella is never described as having eternal childhood as far as I know. He's described as having eternal youth, which is a VERY broad age range. I sincerely doubt that someone with the mental faculties of an 8 year old could 1: Grow a second divine tree 2: Invent two entire schools of magic 3: Found a theology with actual practical backing 4: Create the Unalloyed Gold Needle 5: Mastermind the entire events of Mohg's story and SotE

[@_Tzer]

his model in the promise cutscene is different. Miquella broke the curse but lost themselves in the process.

[@gamerchords4526]

You made an EXCELLENT point about a third ending where Miquella wins being out there somewhere, even if it had been cut; I was wondering the same thing when that gameplay trailer footage never appeared

[@Rivas1028]

been waiting for this

[@triocatsinthehousedailydos2737]

27:20 totally agree that's the ending most likely to happen, considering how freaking strong Radahn is.

[@arkcantoscreampsnpc7274]

I thought radahn was chosen because he was able to resist miquilla’s charm to a degree with his conviction and that resistance “enchanted” miquilla with his strength of will

[@wutzerapple3]

Unless I’m mistaken, I’m pretty sure the lines spoken at 28:30 is what he says if you get grabbed during phase 2, there’s multiple lines if you get grabbed more than once in the fight with the help of the shattered great rune

[@_Tzer]

Everything just leads back to every demigod being hot and not entirely good people(yes including you radahn you war loving scoundrel). Including the omens too. Marika is a horrible parent. and someone could make an entire series about the characters going to therapy/psychiatrist ngl i'd watch it. It just sounds like greek mythology which was probably an inspiration i'd also watch someone do an entire series about them going to therapy/psychiatrist too it'd be interesting.

[@hasslibergs]

Loved the video, and the very scientific approach with the sources. Keep up the great work

[@tha_juice3262]

Feel like everyone is taking the face value of Marika and the hornsent too literally while glossing over the hornsent claiming she betrayed them...for all we know it was her betrayl that lead the hornsent to stuffing shaman in jars. You do not try to hide evidence of THE ORIGINAL SIN without being guilty of throwing the first stone.

[@Apperratus]

@banditgames: I did the test you requested, thanks to my habit of backing up my save before hard bosses for re-fighting. I tried both simply interacting with Marika's torso as well as using the gesture before interacting with the torso, as well as holding the gesture for about a minute. In all cases, no specific response.

[@phillipvogler4233]

Another reason for Radahn being a high candidate for consort is the fact that bro singlehandedly held back cosmic horrors. A very useful ability for an essentially apex being to have if your goal is a world of peace

[@FayN_]

Miquella is indeed genuinely kind. Its just that all this shattering war, his sister curse and the truth about the golden order and marika drove him mad. Enough to made him throw away his love

[@segaherman_twitch]

Elden ring is so popular, right now. Twitch is blowing up with elden ring gameplay

[@Maxjuliann]

It’s one of best games ever

[@raphael.portela]

deserved

[@arkkrogue3870]

Easy pass.

[@raphael.portela]

@@arkkrogue3870 looser

[@lizzykayOT7]

Yup, this was my take too. Radahn was super unwilling which is why he's giving a piggy back ride, and Miquella just coulndn't call back Godwyn's soul.

[@Fishc27]

I'm still at "who the fuck's arm is that in the cocoon?"

[@goroakechi6126]

Miquella is missing an arm during his godhood. I think we know the first thing he sacrificed to enter the Land of Shadow.

[@Fishc27]

@@goroakechi6126 True that is weird. But that arm in the cocoon is the length of Malenia, and Miquella is supposed to be child size? And the cocoon-arm is a right-arm, Miquella is missing a left arm.

[@BoniekKurdupel]

@@goroakechi6126 wrong arm tho. the model of the thing in the cocoon has all limbs in tact and is a reused asset of morgott's corpse just curled up with one arm poking out. In the land of shadow you also find miquella left behind both his left and right arms at different crosses

[@Leonesaurus1990]

Speaking of arm, I didn't even notice this until watching the cutscene again in this video.... But why does Miquella have 2 right arms when he's wrapping himself around Radahn? I mean, Melania is missing her right arm (hence the prosthetic) but.... Now that I look again, he has 4 arms... What's up with that?

[@tehCostHD]

@@Leonesaurus1990he’s literally a corporeal god. He can have as many arms as he wants

[@oliverfletcher771]

Leda confirms that Ansbach was the one who led the retinue of Pureblood Knights to kidnap Miquella from the Haligtree, and that Ansbach himself cut Miquella from his place in the tree. It seems more likely that Miquella was travelling freely around the Lands Between, like St. Trina appeared to be able to do even after he had been sealed inside the tree, during the Malenia's march on Caelid. Maybe Miquella was in the back lines, and that it when he met Freyja. Far be it from a Demi-God like Miquella to be hindered in the enacting the finer elements of his great plans, like healing, and charming, a scarlet rot infected Redmane Knight.

[@1Fye]

I’m pretty sure that Miquella didn’t bring back Godwyn for one very important reason, his soul is completely obliterated. The night of black knives explicitly states that Ranni used the curse mark of death to rid herself of her body at the same time Godwyn was killed, using his soul and her body as a complete sacrifice. Furthermore, whatever Miquella planned to do at Castle Sol for Godwyn failed, this inevitably led to Miquella not being able to use Godwyn’s Soul in Mohg’s body, as he was unable to restore it or even give him a true death.

[@1Fye]

I would also like to comment on Mohg. Personally, I don’t think he is without blame. I think Mohg is charmed *after* he takes the cocoon from the Haligtree. His character motivations all align with him wanting to start his own Dynasty based around the Formless Mother and his blood of which he’s been shunned his whole life for. More specifically, I think he shouldn’t be apologized to because he is still a terrible person, his realm is bloody and festering, like the sewers he grew up in (see the swarm of flies incantation), and the culture he cultivates of his Pureblood Knights and Bloody fingers is that of the hunting and mutilation of others seemingly only to please the Formless mother entity. A bad person got taken advantage of by another bad person, after he tried and failed to use what he thought was Miquella for his own means, is all I really think happened.

[@Ryuzaki280]

I think mohg needed godwyn for his dynasty i mean MOHGWYN

[@Doommarine-sr8y]

I never understood the Godwyn eclipse theory, because the eclipse is specifically said to be tied to the mausoleum knights and the soulless Demigods that rest within them and the idea that Miquella wanted to resurrect Godwyn is outright disproven in the base game because the golden epitaph description basically states how Miquella in fact mourned Godwyn and wanted him to die peacefully and not be in the state we see him in, so I always thought that theory made no sense.

[@1Fye]

@@Doommarine-sr8y Yeah I agree. The discourse around the Eclipse theory is confusing and seems to have a lot of variance depending on who you ask. Personally, I always thought Miquella was trying to use the Eclipse to achieve Godwyn's "true" death and not as a tool of resurrection. Although, seeing as Malenia failed to fully kill Radahn, the eclipse is moot anyways as it won't happen with Radahn holding the stars(and what I can assume also the Moon) at bay.

[@angelo423]

Bro did not watch the video, all of this is mentioned

[@kingwafflemonger5703]

I've been trying to figure out what's going on in Elden Ring for some time now. I'll be watching all your lore videos. You've earned my subscription!

[@vibingwithchaos5349]

Miquella chose Radahn because he is strong. Just as Godfrey says. "A crown is warranted with strength." And Godfrey was the first Elden Lord afterall. And the reason why Malenia and Radahn fought, I think Radahn made a vow with Miquella. What vow, I don't know. But something went wrong. The Shattering happened. So Radahn, probably broke his vow, and began to go to war. That's all he lived for. Just like Godfrey, his idol. So, probably, Miquella sent Malenia to take Radahn by force. Malenia stood no chance and she nuked Caelid. But this didn't work because, although he lost his wits, he was still alive. So Miquella's plans, for now, came to a halt. Until the Tarnished arrived. And it wouldn't be too far fetched if Radahn was forced into this. Because Radahn was also kind underneath all the war. And Miquella used this kindness to make him King Consort.

[@S_B-]

22:05 I think that may have been why miquella was so bent on restoring godwyns soul at castle sol (that description on that one sword said that miquella desperately hoped his brother would die a true death... maybe so he would be able to be respawned in the realm of shadow?) He wanted godwyn to be his lord but his soul was not able to be brought back (via what that spirit says at the top of castle sol), so radahn became his runner up choice?

[@Potalio_]

We thought, moghlester But it was instead, miquelester

[@Zzues]

Excellent video, I love Elden Ring lore so much.

[@BigBilly2009]

Well, even the Marika's cutscene where pulls out a golden strand out of a bloody womb and ascends to godhood at a bloody and piled with bodies Gate of Divinity, which was in trailers, is nowhere to be found in the DLC. So even Miquella's trailer cutscene may be a ruse or we have still not found out how to get those cutscenes.

[@kaiyz4222]

Sadly. That stuff is probably cut content. St. Trina has a 4th line in game with no triggers, and The knight before Trina the pestulance knight is called gloameyedknight in game files. Meaning somewhere along development things changed.

[@TheNamezZ]

Marika sacrificed melina her firstborn who she had with the seduced male counterpart of the GEQ then consulted formless mother to assist in ascension and it required a literal Mountain of blood and Marikas lineage was cursed as a result with aspects of the formless mother (the crucible). The greater wills original mistake. Miquellas deal is he sacrificed his very flesh and power itself which would’ve had him acend but he would’ve been a puppet god just as radahn was his puppet consort. He would’ve had none of his will left intact which st Trina knows. This is the fate of emperyans who ascend they sacrifice the most important thing to them. Marika her children and miquella his love and eternal innocence even his flesh which has the innate abilities of blood and the formless mother. I believe the GEQ must’ve done something similar (if she indeed ascended).

[@sk8legendz]

It is in the dlc it's just implied not show That wrinkled flesh was the Head of Metyr, the eye was Metyrs Eye and Marika was seduced by it into becoming the elden rings vessel In exchange for the strength of Gold to avenge her people and to ascend to God hood. Metyr came to the lands between in the golden star and was bearing the elden beast

[@Ryuzaki280]

​@@TheNamezZMelina is messmers younger sister he was her first born child

[@TheNamezZ]

@@Ryuzaki280 ah right well still I think the swaddle cloth we see is still melina in the trailer and in fact still sacrificed just got order wrong and in terms of messmer well I guess he just born already? But the ties to the formless mother for messmer and GEQ for melina still ring for me.

[@pencilguinz]

deserved a sub for mentioning the most amazing book ever in the beginning amazing comedy

[@xSean0607]

Lucky Radahn, it should've been ME ahhhhhhh

[@fearlessfailure2848]

...Miquella has the body of a child.

[@samf.s.7731]

Said everyone who follows Miquella

[@amazingd74]

@@fearlessfailure2848 How would Radahn be a consort of Miquella then if he HAS the body of a child

[@_Tzer]

@@fearlessfailure2848 during the fight he's aged up his model is different to the cutscene you get after defeating them. ssj3 hair

[@yourturn1942]

U need jail time

[@rodrigolimadev]

Just did this 2min ago and nothing happened, I killed elden beast before going into the dlc but didn't finish, I went to radahn, he got me 2 times, I received an emote, I tried to go to radagons remains and clicking, also tried to do the emote but nothing changed, maybe it needs more steps

[@rodrigolimadev]

but i truly believe you ard right about this hidden ending, i just can't believe nobody found yet

[@vladimirdao1235]

What if you need to let Radahn\Miquella live? There will be no future god if the god is dead. There is a mod on PC that can ressurect bosses. If you play on PC, I assume it may work.

[@Marco-fs9bs]

​@@rodrigolimadevdata miners would have already found that ending if that's the case, the fact that no one knows means that it probably just doesn't exist

[@rodrigolimadev]

​​@vladimirdao1235 but i did not kill them, i died having my heart stolen and went to the end of the main game

[@rodrigolimadev]

​@@Marco-fs9bsI agree, but it is sad, what the fuck happened to that cutscene? it was in the trailer itself

[@rabinsivadev3999]

Great video! Just adding a few speculations/thoughts I have regarding the lore. I think the memory scene where Miquella asks Radahn to promise him of being his consort is the moment where he charms Radahn and makes him accept the request. Radahn and Miquella make a vow together and Radahn becomes the promised consort. Radahm would later go on to conquer the stars (probably because he is worried that an asteroid containing Astel like creatures might land on his town of Selia). But this act changes his fate of becoming consort and breaks the charm. This also creates a new fate for Miquella - St. Trina, which is not of godhood, but of a loving compassionate being that is opposed to godhood (which is what Radahn would have wanted of Miquella). This is why St. Trina wants you to kill Miquella. To attain godhood, Miquella had to reach the gates of divinity, so he was faced with Messmer who guards it. Messmer was like an older brother to Radahn and fiercely loyal to Marika and so he naturally disagreed to Miquella's plans and blocks the entrance to the divine tower with Scadutree thorns, sealing it with his sealing tree that can only be burned by him or his fire. Of course Miquella tries his luck with Messmer of charming him but the base serpent within Messmer would break the charm. At this point, Miquella and his gang had nobody with enough muscle to take on Messmer so he continues to charm different people from different worlds and hoped one of them defeats Messmer. This is why we the tarnished are given his steed Torrent in the hopes that one day in our journey, we shall kill Radahn (which is what Ranni wanted too, Miquella and Ranni shared a common interest here, hence it is through Ranni we get Torrent), then Mogh and then finally Messmer.

[@GRIMM2197]

Miquella the unemployed

[@FreedomIII]

ooo, the miquella ending speculation is pretty cool 😮