WHY DID THESE INCREDIBLE YU-GI-OH DECKS FROM THE OCG... completely flop in America?

[@firefliesowlcity12]

"We are here with another X thread" That just sounds wrong

[@Sassaparilla]

Y'know, it's kinda a double entendre. X Thread because of the Rebrand And X Thread as in "X" thread, as in, "fill in the blank" thread.

[@bl00by_]

Thank Elon for that

[@Raminator243]

I think the reason Dragoon was so good in the OCG was that it’s the strongest boss monster you can spit out in a singular summon (Red-Eyes Fusion), which plays around maxx C super well

[@shawnjavery]

Nah, I'd say its more because droplet and talents weren't printed when it came out initially. They got dragoon like one or two sets before rotd in the ocg but we got it after rotd and dragoon just had more main decked answers.

[@glrbrasil]

Both answers are solid actually

[@pwny1000]

Dragoon with Maxx C. Too strong.

[@ivanmaterazzo2631]

Dragoon was insanely good and meta warping in tcg as well, you'll never buy me with MegaCapitalG's arguments. Sure, having a "one special summon omni negate towers in TOSS format" was ridiculous, but what about one of the best endpoint for a combo line we ever had? Going first at worse it was a dude aiming for combo's choke points once you've baited most of your opponent's interactions. Going second it represented an easy line for lethal being able to pop 2 and burn while boosting himself if you'd dare to activate anything. I believe going second it was even more troublesome since Kaijus and Talents were unusable and Droplet maybe got wasted onto something else. Clearly the problem card during that period was Verte, and DPE was even more flexible allowing you to go +2 next turn, but having played extensively drytron format Dragoon felt as the furthest thing from a flop .

[@VladimerPootis]

I need a time machine banlist check for if the OCG still had grinder golem and pre-errata firewall still legal in some capacity because Dragoon also had the capacity to be an ftk or an otk going second.

[@Majoraspersona]

I remember the Dragonmaid thing. I think the problem was that people kept trying to play it as a wombo combo deck similar to Chaos Thunder Dragon, when it was always more like a midrange deck like Salamangreat. Yugioh players didn't even know the term midrange EXISTED until like late 2020. Before that it was either "Control" or "combo".

[@michaelkeha]

Even then their definition of control is just combo but with slightly less summons most of the time they end on the same big board of negates

[@Xeamless]

​@@michaelkehathat is midrange

[@michaelkeha]

@@Xeamless there is no such thing as true mid range in Yugioh because you would need for a game to develop more than a turn a pop before the outcome is generally decided for midrange to be a viable deck style what yugioh calls midrange is just slower combo

[@kaisermaximal8123]

I still don't know what midrange means in the context of yugioh

[@michaelkeha]

@@kaisermaximal8123 it takes you two turns of solitaire to make your opponent scoop cause they didn't have a hand full of specific outs which players think is balanced to require that many mandatory cards just to get to have a turn instead of one

[@o7_AP]

It's funny how so many people STILL don't comprehend how OCG is it's own entire separate thing from the TCG and not just "TCG but with newer cards" specifically how Maxx C being legal completely warps the whole meta

[@baxterbruce9827]

I would argue that the card existing warps the meta whether it's allowed or not, people are just THAT affected by a card sometimes

[@philbuttler3427]

Nobody thinks that. You just think people are stupider than they actually are.

[@GranMaj]

OCG Pendulum player is just that good. In Master Duel, you will most likely encounter 2 types of pendulum player, one is alphabet username garbagale, the other is japanese username god.

[@fryenchill2817]

It’s gotta be because their PSCT format is so much more legible, makes so much of a difference for comprehending a pend card compared to other ones

[@amamiyaharuto8407]

@@fryenchill2817 yeah OCG PSCT is more Comprehensible compard to TCG Thats why when OCG announce they would release Asean English again i wish it follow the OCG PSCT

[@Tokumastu1]

To address why Zefra just fizzled over here, it's due how other decks could achieve a similar end board for less and the pricing of some of the Zefra cards were just bananas at the time. So mindset was why go for this expensive combo heavy deck, when the other options we have can achieve a similar result and cost less to build.

[@TheEagleAndTheApple]

Wut. Zefra Guardragon was incredibly cheap, and unreasonably powerful at the time. TCG just doesnt like pend.

[@Tokumastu1]

@@TheEagleAndTheApple Not at the time. Some of the extra deck cards were worth an arm and a leg, not helping that this was during a period in which the minute a field spell was seen as core to a tier 1 deck it would balloon in price over night. The TCG prices have and always will be insane, as well as being a factor in why certain strong decks just don't become top tier over here.

[@TheEagleAndTheApple]

@@Tokumastu1 I literally played the deck competitively man, it was like $50 lol

[@Tokumastu1]

@@TheEagleAndTheApple buby, the Zegra deck in question aint the guard dragon varient. Might want to watch the vid again. The Varient that was in question to making the rounds is the one that was too expensive and was outclassed by other decks that did the same thing. I should know I was a seller at the time and was making the rounds during tournaments to make money.

[@yugimumoto1]

Yeah it was sad to see zefra flop. It's genuinely my favorite pendulum deck but it's hard to justify what it did over any other deck at pretty much any point.

[@lamiaprincess6371]

I can explain the 3 Ogiers, it was because the combo lines that were resistant to Nibiru started off with Ogiers, since you could send God Phoenix Gearfriend to the GY with it and recover it with Renauld later on. A really big difference I wasn't able to highlight was that the OCG had more copies of Emergency Teleport than we did at the time, which meant they could run Psi-Reflector as an incredibly easy way to just make Level 9 synchros for free.

[@geek593]

Ogier coming back around to being the best Infernoble normal summon is vindicating. I always felt perfectly safe opening Ogier and a way to Renaud.

[@xatuyou8045]

There was no nibiru when infernoble was first released in the ocg. Rise of the duelist came out around may and they didn't get nibiru and dark ruler no more until a few months later.

[@glrbrasil]

Reducing the TCG from West (America, Europe, etc) to just America, and the OCG from East (Japan, China, Korea and Asia in general) to just Japan was the most American think I’ve ever heard Joseph 😂

[@jimeagle3213]

What is a europe?

[@Luckingsworth]

Only two relevant countries in each group.

[@Khaot1c_]

What is a Corea?

[@williamgonzalez2846]

Europe doesn't count.

[@Raminator243]

@@LuckingsworthI mean the TCG has US, Canada, the UK and Germany. I’d say those are all fairly relevant Yugioh demographics.

[@DemonGodAsura91]

Spright's lack of dominance in the TCG can almost entirely be attributed to POTE also containing Garura. The existence of that card alone reshaped the Spright end board from Elf + Toad + Red + Carrot to Elf + Toad + Djinn Buster because you had to play around Super Poly. It was too late when it was discovered that Runick Spright was the best Spright deck (maybe best deck in the format) because it rose to prominence right before the Ishizu cards were released.

[@lancerguy3667]

At the very least I’m proud of the fact that the 1.5 weeks that D/D was at full power without Zoo was enough for them to top exactly one event. At least they could be called technically meta for a minute in the TCG.

[@babrad]

It was 2 weeks! And they got a top during Zoo before Grass Paleo became popular. It's one of the unexplored formats i hope gets noticed in the future like Edison. ABC PALEO DDD INFERNOID counter each other really well, while there were Metalfoes piles etc before the coming of Ash, Zoo, and Draco.

[@EnergyBurst2]

@@babrad So which of the 4 does Infernoid tend to counter in this example? Legit asking because I'm not familiar enough with what was available to Infernoid at that time.

[@babrad]

@@EnergyBurst2 DDD counters Paleo, Paleo counters ABC, ABC counters DDD with Infernoid countering both DDD and ABC but not having that good of a match against Paleo.

[@Zerato]

That week was my first 4-0 at locals lol

[@doughbag2951]

OCG Pendulum players are just build different. In a format permanently hostile to everything they do they almost always find a way to top with Pendulum Magician, Endymion or Zefra.

[@blastmole299]

Just look at Master Duel, except for the latest cup, which is dominated by Tear 0 and Sprights. There's one or two Pendulum deck players that placed in top 10

[@phanquang7839]

and dont forget Vaylantz with FTK/ Dyno fossil secret village lock. Now they also run roll back ghost meet girl The deck just capable with all degenerate lock smh

[@monstermilk6092]

Pendulum players in both metas have the same advantage: People hate reading long card text and also have difficulty understanding how the effects interact Source: I play Endymion and win through ignorant opponents quite often

[@xCorvus7x]

@@monstermilk6092 To be fair, almost all your interruption has only soft once-per-turn clauses.

[@jirehjirehjirehjireh]

I feel like certain decks stick around in the OCG more so because of the cult following , rather than being the actual best deck in the room (Dragon Maid, Hero, etc.)

[@tumage8592]

I mean Hero kinda can achieve something

[@LLewliet-pz6ve]

With Dragonmaid, you get a negate in one special summon and the archetype is backed up by all the generic dragon support. At least there's a potential somewhere. They keep exploring new ideas instead of staying boring.

[@DCDsauce]

@@LLewliet-pz6ve too bad it got powercrept hard by Bystials, it used to be a good engine in dragon link/dragunity

[@mario-k.]

​@@tumage8592but not a negate

[@nbassasin8092]

As opposed to the TCG where no decks have cult following?

[@comebackqing8452]

Zefra was like a top 3 ocg deck for years. Much jealous

[@Synactive]

in general you want each summon to be more high impact in formats with maxx “c”, this is also why adventure tenyi is crazy in the ocg, each summon means so much, you can make barronne in 2 special summons, dpe in 1 or 3, set up adventure in 1, and you can fit tons of hand traps into adventure tenyi so if you’re in halq format you can very reasonably just do nothing pass and still reliably stop a halq play with your hand traps alone, or just set up smth simple with only 1 or 2 summons thats should be enough to interrupt your opponents plays. whereas something like anything with dangers (e.g. smth like spyral) where it takes ages to get a playable board, stuff that can’t reasonably stop before the combo is done and survive, is just not gonna be as good in a maxx “c” format.

[@michaelkeha]

It's part of why I find the OCG more interesting is because Maxx C forces efficiency of plays it often feels like the turns are strong but less time consuming on average

[@cipper12]

The reason pure Dragonmaid works in the ocg is probably cuz of the mid range decks being meta. Compare to all the other mid range decks, Dragonmaid out advantage them all quickly and easily.

[@mateusrp1994]

Playing Dragonmaid in early MD formats was a blast, the deck can easily snowball into a ridiculous advantage, but it has a very weak turn 1 setup, so the big fuck off combo decks that are common in the TCG can easily overwhelm it before it has a chance to start snowballing.

[@haxmode6935]

Actually, it was never meta. It just had alot of people playing it and topping LOCALS with it. Most ocg reports people see are from locals and dont actually give a good view on what was meta. Like dragonmaid of heatsoul turbo being locals legends but not remotely meta.

[@r3zaful]

​@@haxmode6935a CS and duelist cup is counted as competitive, why Adachi cs 2019 Razor burn won ps5 then?

[@noahbriske839]

​@@haxmode6935Meta stretches into more than just everywhere. If people are consistently topping at their locals with it, then that would be considered meta in that store.

[@haxmode6935]

@@r3zaful competive means people there are actualy trying to win. Saying a event is competive means shite. Saying a event was high level and has actaul good players in it is what actually means stuff. Also cs/dc isnt that competive

[@ShiroiKiba]

"I legitimately think that the OCG didn't experiment enough with alternative Tear brews" Which is wild, considering that Tear shines in almost any deck you put it in

[@michaelkeha]

In my experience against Tear Maxx C does actually hamper the deck more than you would think since there is a good chance you can fire it on your own turn against tear and be able to draw enough additional gas to power through their interactions anyway

[@leoornstein3963]

Dragon Link for TCG and Dragon maid for OCG? Balance, as all thing should be.

[@r3zaful]

People still play dragon link my dude, just people get bored

[@leoornstein3963]

@@r3zaful I know, D-Link still going stronk after 4 years💪

[@andrejv.2834]

​@@leoornstein3963dlink hasn't even existed for 4 years?

[@leoornstein3963]

@@andrejv.2834 late 2019 to now (2023)

[@andrejv.2834]

@@leoornstein3963 but wasn't the first instance of dlink at a tournament that cherubini turbo deck after the january 2020 banlist? And even that doesn't really resemble what the deck would turn into later on in like september-october 2020

[@ultimatedbz2]

"who's watching MBT at 3 in the morning" Me in intense dental pain "oh boy! 3 am!"

[@kurtposehn1677]

adventure tenyi lacking galaxy tomahawk and olion also definitely hurt it over here

[@captainH023]

A lot of time it's partly because of Maxx C and partly because the OCG scene is much more midrange leaning. Also because the OCG scene tend to have a few decks that a lot of players latches on to more than they should for whatever reason

[@lordofgarbageprogenitoroft4147]

30 year old Japanese salary men will lay eyes upon a yugioh card and will devote the rest of their life to playing that card and like 7 times out of 10 it's an anime girl variant

[@sarthakarora3212]

They have standard yous mean, they are not harlots like meta slaves.

[@charlesfort6602]

​@@sarthakarora3212more like they have issues and think with their dicks rather than brains

[@michaelkeha]

It's also because they have far more tournaments so their stuff evolves so much faster

[@Evan_Schaefering]

OCG is more midrange leaning because Maxx C is legal so I don't think they are really two different points. That one card is holding back their metas from becoming as combo dominant as the TCGs meta always is.

[@TrevorAllenMD]

The new Twitter logo looks like some exclusive Yacht Club's, except the club is called something like "Epstein and Friends". Pls dont let this series die when Twitter dies. Also shoutout to Fluffal not getting Patchwork for 100 years.

[@EinDose]

TUMBLR THREADS

[@okisemporium]

Threads Threads

[@DrAiPatch]

Its Funny how Rikka is the reverse of this in the TCG Rikka is pretty good but any format that has Maxx C Rikka is trash.

[@theblastzone3037]

Surprised Chronomaly didn’t make an appearance it was a Tier 0 in the OCG, but because of the delayed release of Nebbra disk, a completely flopped over here and the TCG

[@Kylora2112]

Kinda hard to be relevant without your most important card. And Chronomaly was like 3 years old and dropped into the middle of the start of the modern age of Yugioh. A good 2012 deck was *not* going to cut it in 2015 with Shaddoll, BA, Qliphort, and Nekroz.

[@YourKingSkeletor]

Next X Thread needs a few X Videos to show of complex combo decks.

[@ianr.navahuber2195]

0:07 I suppose Dire is now going for videogame references

[@InvaderWeezle]

Big Bang OTK was a powerful OCG deck that would never work in the TCG because of a ruling difference. Originally in the OCG, Gift of the Mystical Elf was ruled that each 300 LP gained was a separate gain, so if for example there were five monsters on the field you would gain 300 five times instead of gaining 1500 once. This interacted with Fire Princess (Big Bang Girl in the OCG) where if you had multiple Gifts of the Mystical Elf and multiple Fire Princesses you would burn your opponent for enough times to win. But by the time the TCG started coming out in 2002, Gift of the Mystical Elf had already had its ruling changed so that the life points gained are all just a single gain.

[@miguelmata6883]

My head canon about the Spright vs Tear OCG incident is that we just red pilled the Japanese players into becoming gambling addicts through milling and now they've played Tear consistently for 1.5 years 😂

[@sarthakarora3212]

they are just better players

[@cynthiacrescent]

@@sarthakarora3212 mfw "better players" let Spright become tier 0 despite Tear being near full power at the same time.

[@felipebarreto97]

​@@cynthiacrescent In a format with Maxx "C", POTE Spright is stronger than POTE Tear by a large margin. DABL support for Tear was the game changer there, Spright stopped being Tier 0 when it released. Remember in the TCG we played Tear mostly with Dangers, sometimes with Scareclaw or Spright. These decks simply die to Maxx "C", they have massive engines and can't fit the Maxx package.

[@HumanoidCableDreads]

It's not gambling when you fill your entire deck with cards that trigger when milled. And by that logic, all decks use gambling since you draw random hands from a 40-60 card deck. But the gambling canard is from people coping after being beaten by Tear.

[@Teixas666]

@@cynthiacrescent the issue with spright in the OCG is that maxx C is legal. sprights make maxx C searchable jumping their potential to the moon.

[@XionSteel]

As someone who had a friend who absolutely loved going off on zombie combos back in the day... can confirm Zombie DAD was very explosive. 👍

[@potatoexe5410]

Hieratic was crazy in the OCG on release but failed to really show up in TCG due to the difference in cardpool. One of them being Gustav max not existing till after REDMD was put to 1 in a banlist

[@anarbor2282]

The ocg dragonmaid tops are just litterly their version of our rikka tops

[@mmmsheehoo]

I started playing(OCG) when junk doppel was the top deck here 👀

[@Dw7freak]

I love how the only things between a deck being successful in OCG and TCG are that one card that's integral to the combo being released late or banned and Maxx "C".

[@babrad]

I'm still salty for paying 300$ for Desires and 150$ for Crystal Wing/Omega then we got hit with the delayed Structure Deck. Thanks Dire for putting that in!!!

[@moonshinespaz8559]

I think Dragoon just came out at a bad time here in TCG. It dropped right at the beginning of the covid quarantines and there was no tournaments. I love my Dracoslayers. It's complicated enough to make me think of lines before I make them and it can combo off very well. Pendulum decks are some of the most fun decks I have ever played and it is my favorite mechanic. I have my Dracoslayers and an Endymion build

[@pie6088]

the zombie DAD mirror was probably the best episode of history of yugioh

[@thanatosxmesiah]

7:28 it stop being played because of the spright hit, most of the top are that variant

[@yuricahere]

It boggles the mind when people unironically think "maxx keeps combo in check" when combo in OCG is even more played than TCG.

[@drewcummings2453]

my conspiracy theory is that dragon maid wasn't even good in the ocg, it's just that it was so insanely popular over there that a critical mass of players ended up playing it for fun, so much so that it managed to sneak into top cuts consistently just off sheer numbers

[@StarfieldDisarray]

I'm honestly convinced that Japanese players just really love Phantom Knights. We all joke about Phantom Knight players overhyping the deck "it'll be meta this format!" but I think maybe 80% of Phantom Knight mains live in Japan. I remember seeing Master Duel tier lists when Adventure released and while Western players had Phantom Knights as 4th-5th best deck, I consistently saw Japanese players say it was #1. No Maxx C diff to blame there.

[@gubigubigubigubi]

Dragonmaids to me is entirely unplayable without maxx "C". Like thats the night and day difference. It gives you so many cards to play with you will never get without it. And it NEEDS those cards. And Dragonmaids don't really care THAT much about it getting dropped against them. They really need the draw power badly.

[@eleonarcrimson858]

no they just liked the deck. even with maxx c that deck is just bad.

[@marteenavila]

You just describe any deck uh

[@mateusrp1994]

Nah, its because Dragonmaid needs multiple turns to snowball into massive advantage with its own engine, but it has a very weak turn 1 setup, so it needs Maxx C to survive that turn 1.

[@thiccupcake]

You are aware that maxx c resolves like 2 times every 10

[@cawrhy]

LMAO - the switch intro caught me so off guard and caused me to have SUCH a giggle.

[@LordParaDax]

Wait does this mean Twitter freaks are now X freaks

[@Ragnarok540]

And the twitter files are now the X-Files...

[@abdurachmanromzy4778]

Yes

[@GamerNym]

I was so excited to muck around with Gishki-Spright but once the banlist revealed Elf it was just "Nope, deck's dead"

[@michaelkeha]

Ironically the OCG had started moving towards pure gishki hand looping again by the time we got gishki spright

[@burntfish123]

True Draco Kozmo Meatlfoe is my favorite deck of all time, but they neutered it like 2 seconds after it became a thing by limiting set rotation because people found some cheese with it. Real shame too because the pop off potential at the time was great - give yourself a diagram, give them a kozmotown, pop the town, get a search, etc etc. Miss that deck

[@LordParaDax]

Love late night uploads

[@babysinclairfan]

Vaylantz is a good example. That deck had a lot of representation in the ocg, but just couldn't cut the mustard here

[@AhmedAyman-ro5ht]

7:20 It was actually more so that they found out Synchro Tear was playable, which runs the Ishizus, and with how much Tri-Brigade needs the GY, it wasn't particularly a great match up for one of the top decks at the time, it still saw play just not as much, and later down the line Elf was banned and Blue was limited which effectively made it just Old Tri-Brigade that is a bit more consistent that's about it. The deck is like the 3rd best deck in Master duel right now or something.

[@chasehill04]

Just for the record, worlds 2011 finals was junk-doppel vs agent (also the third place was a junk-doppel as well) and the banlist split happen 2 years later on 2013... so the junk-doppel one is actually wrong

[@fentimablader]

we didn't have librarian or quasar widely available like they did till later though

[@chasehill04]

@@fentimablader Quasar didn't came until much later and t.g was a jump promo from a month or so earlier, so t.g we had

[@fentimablader]

@@chasehill04 widely avail meaning not only as a jump promo

[@chasehill04]

@@fentimablader how do I say this... you see how competitive players just buy what they need? T.G not been widely available is not a factor for that, it could even be seen as a point to my favor in the sense that "T.G was not widely available and even with that junk-doppel got result" after all it "just" got tops at worlds right? Nothing special

[@fentimablader]

@@chasehill04 yeah i know, i'm just saying it could never have gotten the same representation in tcg as ocg cause we were missing full access to those crucial pieces

[@RoanWitchArt]

Surprised no one mentions magical musket, I remember those cards being hyped as the best thing that could ever be put on cardboard only for them to do absolutely nothing

[@xatuyou8045]

Part of dragoon’s dominance was lack of counters. They didn’t have dark ruler no more and droplet and triple tactics talent didn’t come out until a few months later.

[@LexAnarchy]

There have been formats in the TCG where Zefra has been pretty good even before we got Denglong back but now that we have it back there is literally no excuse to not play the deck. I really think people just don't know about it.

[@michaelkeha]

It's because the meta hive mind hasn't been shown and told it's good so it might as well not exist

[@LexAnarchy]

@@michaelkeha yup, sad truth

[@hopelessblond2507]

"hopefully at least rescue-ace is good" feels like a bad omen in hindsight

[@michaelkeha]

DDDs in fact they also had a reanimator variant that basically dodged the need for links but it was just overshadowed by well Zoo

[@nnnp634]

Other way around would be interesting. Drytron was pretty weak before xyz, Adamancipator were useless untill SHS got new support.

[@TKHedgeHog]

This has nothing to do with yugioh but I got a shiny charizard in pokemon legitimately.

[@winter945]

Hey, the pokemon soundtrack in the background of the video makes this relevant

[@quangchau3907]

I am happy for you

[@lokid.r-k-9608]

X thread: cards that were successful in tcg but failed in ocg

[@johnnywilson3071]

I don't think Rescue Ace will be as tier 1 as it was in the OCG, but I don't think its unplayable/do not take to YCS level bad, it has a pretty decent Kashtira matchup and its Purrely matchup is also pretty good. Maxx-C shouldn't be a reason for Rescue Ace outperforming Labrynth and Vanqiush Soul in the OCG two decks that also benefit a lot from Maxx-C. But anyways it doesn't matter, the deck becomes super cracked post AGOV (43% top spots in the last Next-Play OCG tournament).

[@hoshi314]

it's turbulence, you can't ash it and Maxx C? don't really give a shit if hydrant is already out. instant set 4 is huge

[@brutalnobody5240]

​@@hoshi314evenly match,game 2?

[@babrad]

@@brutalnobody5240 Not after the firewall combo, since here there isn't a roach to stop it.

[@hoshi314]

@@brutalnobody5240 bitch please, Inspector Boarder

[@kianakaslana1210]

Diabellestar also covers 1 major choke point of the deck.

[@bryanporter4897]

What you keep missing in every OCG-TCG video is not just that Maxx "C" is legal, but Ash is run at x3 alongside it Ash is not a turn stopper or even main deck staple in the TCG because you can extend past it. You cannot beat Maxx "C" by extending, meaning Ash, and by extension omni negates like Baronne and Dragoon, are a lot stronger. Decks that are successful in the OCG need to navigate through both cards

[@manporo5865]

I feel you are underestimating the impact of our great protector, Earth Insect!

[@forrestbell4146]

I’m literally in bed eating McNuggets. Then he mentions McDonalds lol

[@ashemabahumat4173]

Speak for yourself, my mind has been awakened to the greatness that is zefra since it came out... now if only I could win a game in the tcg with it

[@roninwarriorsfan]

So...does Skill Drain work with Dragonmaids?

[@Rairiky]

A reason my beloved maids were meta for so long in thr ocg? Virtual world was a great match up and they were really good much longer than in the tcg

[@crondog]

I dream of pure dragonmaid being playable here. Surely some day Konami will print new support (cope). For real though, new dragonmaid support would be like printing money. People like the dragon waifus, those singles hold way more value than they have any right to.

[@elisabethpoland2967]

We still need Chamber's dragon form so there's a chance

[@esrohm6460]

isn't it funny how the ocg just didn't play tear during spright format just for them to refuse stop playing it now that literally every card in the deck is limited or banned

[@Carlet_S]

kitkallos gives her hardest battles to her strongest soldiers

[@jeditwin6582]

Oh boy! I can't wait to see how many people were unable to read the initial prompt and reply with a completely unrelated answer!

[@ozymandiaskingofkings3484]

He's correct about Zefra. You actually have to be more pitch perfect with your plays than you'd like. There is little to no flexibility in the lines.

[@tuvillo]

Synchron Runick wasn't playable because Auroradon and Halqifibrax were banned, LOL Tactical Masters was delayed by a couple months during covid, making it release AFTER POTE. Yeah thanks Konami.

[@xatuyou8045]

Only auroradon was banned here.

[@jayd.doubledubs]

Love the pokemon music in the background. Thank you Dire!

[@keithallen8355]

Zefra integrates 5 Archetypes, using tools from those to boost cosistency does stuff, dont try the ritual beasts

[@RoseZ7323]

It was so subtle But i really loved the MBT version of the Switch logo lol

[@shadexvii3975]

I know Chronomaly got Nebra disk way late in TCG, which hampered it. Would it meet the requirements for this thread, or was it not that good?

[@homerman76]

I'm surprised Chronomally didn't pop up, the deck that got neutered in the TCG just simply because one important card arrived later than it should have 😅

[@Kylora2112]

Not really a flop, just the good card came out 3 years too late for it to be relevant. A good 2012 deck didn't stand a chance against BA, Shaddoll, Qli, and Nekroz.

[@goldenarmour7975]

The rose dragon adventure deck... I played it myself. It's surprisingly inconsistent in its end boards. Half the hands end you on 4 interruptions while playing through handtraps and the other half you just lose to one hand trap with 2 interuptions at best. I really didn't like playing it. If you didn't draw red rose it wasn't fun. Strictly worse than pure Swordsoul imo.

[@blackrosed8068]

"Because Maxx C" as if no combo deck existed in the TCG when Maxx C was legal.

[@Billy_Wyatt]

Still crazy on how format warping Maxx C is but yeah..I think everyone is no stranger on how different the OCG and TCG formats can actually be.

[@michaelkeha]

It literally informs all aspects of deck design without it players can go for the longest most drawn out combos imaginable with limited repercussions with it players are forced to build for hyper efficient impactful combos with as little fat as possible

[@doyoulikemywatch]

Europe: am I a joke to you?

[@joelroman-mk5le]

Does anyone know what his t-shirt after whats on screen?

[@ariaakee]

My favorte MBT intro yet

[@nauticoom]

We have Synchro Tenyi in master duel for a short while. It was ridiculously overpowered. Your board was unbeatable if you could get the combo off. The combo also took almost all the time 😂

[@vtgare]

Yeah the deck ended on an FTK and could even play through handtraps with certain hands. On top of that Crossout was at 3 and CBTG was at 2. It felt so ridiculously overpowered to anything else in the format back then. And then Halq got banned and the power level of the format went down significantly

[@tricmagic]

Honestly I really enjoyed Zefra when it came out. Specifically in Ritual Beast.

[@DazeJokerz]

ah yes japan and america, the only 2 places yugioh is played

[@havoc697]

As a kid i watched a Japanese account who'd talk about new packs but because i was a dumb kid i misheard what he said as the the ocean card game rather than the official card game

[@LeAndre_McCoy]

D/D/D Took like 2 years before it was finally ported to the TCG and by that time, MR4 was already in effect, Zoodiac just released, and Double Helix was around the corner

[@birdofclay9581]

Now that there is no more Twitter threads, it´s time for more Writing X-ercises or Card X-amintations.

[@Shinde425]

Their spright could make toad and search maxx c. That’s a big difference from ours.

[@andrejv.2834]

Ours could make toad too

[@Shinde425]

@@andrejv.2834 but not search maxx c

[@MeiteiReviews]

Yeah, my boy Heatsoul made the list :)!

[@m7in]

speaking of denglong did this card find it's footing again?

[@THEGRUMPTRUCK]

Dragonmaid took a cult following simply because they're based off of Kobayashi's dragon maid. Before his passing they were even given the blessing of the series's developer. But the deck isnt that good on its own.

[@FeatherAndWings234]

The director of the anime is the one who’s dead and not the original Artist/Writer so what the fuck are you talking about

[@Solo1028]

There are countless little reasons why these decks flopped in the TCG, but the main reason is just one letter, right in between B and D, becaus his power is Maximum.

[@Leonardo.ohime.i]

Adventure tenky aka halq turbo was probably a tier 0 in md

[@jakeoakley7254]

Chronomally and getting nebra disk late was another one

[@worm_9912]

Rose dragons were fucking insane here in TCG

[@taeza007hd]

Maxx C has make so many deck playable.

[@Teixas666]

and many more unplayable because maxx C effectively gatekeeps them off the meta #banmaxxC

[@dhanyl2725]

​​@@Teixas666Ppl care more about what got into the meta than what didn't sadly

[@Sassaparilla]

@@dhanyl2725 it's the illusion of choice. And, no, people just want to make excuses for themselves. If it's for their pet deck, they need it to play. If it's for the meta, the need it to counter their opponents combo, disregarding the fact that they will also combo the following turn. If they want less cards banned/more variety in deck building, Maxx "C" makes cards like Ash, Called, Cross, and Droll far more powerful. Meaning a third of your deck will be based around these cards. Maxx C is like Scheherazade in MTG. Unfun, complicates games for no reason, noncommittal, so on so forth. The card might as well read "Your opponent chooses one effect for you to activate: 1: Draw Seven Cards 2: It is the end of the turn" Nothing about that is fun. The game is already "Draw the Out" simulator. This card not only cements this idea, but dumbs down interaction to the point that it requires no skill to really use.

[@dhanyl2725]

@@Sassaparilla Good luck drawing the out to maxx c when most of the commonly usable outs are on the f/l list kek

[@Sassaparilla]

@@dhanyl2725 don't need to draw the out to Maxx C, because it's A: Banned in my Locale And B: I'm antisocial, so seeing me in a place where a banlist is relevant is less likely than seeing me cook or sweep.

[@darkwolfgamer1617]

it funny Zombie DAD is brought up, in a prog server im in I play zombie DAD and thanks to us having a custom banlist I was able to play 3 copy of Destiny HERO - Malicious and MAN! MBT is right, the deck is super explosive.

[@MultiAmmar2000]

TCG is just America? Average American.

[@SuperRedNovaDragon]

Finally something good to watch at work.

[@tas-zc1jm]

5:30 We got agi-

[@lukemacinnes5124]

It drives me nuts when people use the term PK to refer to phantom knights, only because i have no clue if they mean phantom knights or prank kids

[@shendelzarescathach1674]

These vids need to be longer