Why did Urahara LIE to Isshin?

Why did Urahara LIE to Isshin?
Urahara, Isshin Kurosaki, Visored, bleach, bleach tybw

[@divineboi97]

Bleach is literally just urahara and aizen having a chess match

[@gentlepeeps3351]

Literally urahara aizen and then ywach in the background all scheming

[@whichhunter7087]

You could say ichibe would be the black king and ywach the white king

[@RG-df2lr]

​@@whichhunter7087Yep

[@dnhyp3rx]

​@@gentlepeeps3351even ywach was a part of their chess match.

[@janosd4nuke]

​@@whichhunter7087 nah, it's more messed up than that. Round1: Urahara vs Aizen as players Round2: (arguably a sub-match between the queens/viziers of Round1 players) Ichibe vs Yhwach But in all scenarios Ichigo is both the black and the white king on the board at the same time.

[@Grayson-Winchester]

Urahara understands Isshin’s concerns , revealed in the novels

[@roywempor8395]

urahara has a son?

[@TheZephyrsWind]

Huh? Why that question?

[@InnerTriggerer]

@@TheZephyrsWind "understand isshin's concerns" = understand father's concern

[@dnhyp3rx]

​@@roywempor8395I wouldn't put it passed him, the man is a great mystery

[@strider_hiryu850]

@@roywempor8395 imagine if him and Yoruichi had a kid? i wonder how Soi Fon would react... although technically Ururu & Jinta exist. so, kinda yes?

[@aayush7289]

Bleach's writer : aizen His editor : Urahara

[@JarvisBaileyVA]

Post Bleach I feel bad for Ichigo. He was everyone's chess piece and was constantly getting thrust into these ridiculous grudge matches.

[@joaquincortescasas8114]

Bro was a pawn his whole life without knowing. Being pushed by both Aizen and Urahara. Then being controlled by Ginjo. Finally being pushed by Yuha Bach and Ichibei. Even when TYBW ended, nobody knows if he will ever be trully free from the control of Soul Society. At ANY TIME, Ichiibei can and, if needed, will ambush him, take away his powers and turn him into a soul king, a fate worse than death, wih a form of eternal and meaningless suffering for Ichigo.

[@kocojack]

More like he's the chosen one....

[@maciekwucow3989]

​@@kocojackChosen pawn

[@dnhyp3rx]

​@@joaquincortescasas8114yes, the metaphor is greater than you think, as you said about what ichibe could do to him, the pawn has the potential to become the queen, the strongest piece on the board yet still subservient to someone else.

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

@@dnhyp3rxthat’s probably the exact character used for the soul king, worst part is ichigo would only have one option, Kill Ichibe, which would not only be hard but gut wrenching

[@killuazoldyk2727]

Urahara is the producer of Bleach

[@Guyle]

And what about Aizen? The plot maker?

[@olo703]

​@@Guyle Aizen is the director. Yhwach is the writer.

[@Guyle]

@@olo703 ahh. Makes sense now:)

[@rajendraprasad-gm5pz]

​@@olo703soul king is the writer, yhwach is director, aizen is screenplay writer, urahara is producer

[@olo703]

@@rajendraprasad-gm5pz Soul King is the copyright owner

[@Idkjustleave]

Batman of bleach for a reason

[@daydreamdirty]

Personally I’d love ❤ to see Urahara match up against Batman. Probably destroy him in most scenarios though

[@shiningarmour6805]

I always took it that Urahara did not know what side the Vizard would take in the end. It's a mirror image of how Ichigo influences others, Ichigo being an ally to the Gotei 13 was basically the final vote to where the Vizards would side.

[@artypyrec4186]

The side that turned you into wizard and tried to kill you, or the side that tried to kill you despite your years to centuries of service.

[@shiningarmour6805]

@@artypyrec4186 To me, I always took it that their choices were "side with Soul Society and try to kill Aizen" or "Finish off Soul Society... and then try to kill Aizen"

[@conic2721]

​@@shiningarmour6805Except all of them except Hachi, Hyori and Love, rejoined the Soul Society as captains.

[@akshatsingha3193]

​@@shiningarmour6805 for them it was never killing the soul society. They were soul reapers in the end and despite all the anger they subconsciously still had that attachment and being ex soul reaper themselves they too understood soul society expectations+ Urahara would never want them to do it. Yea they might want to stand neutral even of soul society falls but they will never try to actively harm them

[@The_DJMITRI]

I am part of someone's plan

[@blessingsheridthapelorants5672]

God's plan😊

[@-devilslayer-6126]

He probably low-key didn't want Isshin to think his son was a monster

[@FelixTeeberg]

What a coincidence. I just rewatched the episode where this happened and asked myself this exact question.

[@WrittenbeforeBC]

That happened to me either

[@dreamsickle955]

Same rewatching it with my gf and I couldn't explain to her why that made me so angry 🤣

[@human239]

Isshin been mewing since before his death.

[@Taiga-16]

He didn't lie, Kubo simply didn't plan this.

[@rajarshibakali]

Well we can't tell that for sure.

[@corruptangel6793]

It fits the scene well enough. Also, you're right, Urahara never lied. He just didn't say what was really going on

[@killuazoldyk2727]

Urahara took 100 steps when Aizen took 50

[@mugetsu1821]

KUBO already plan it just you are so dumb that it

[@gabrieldevoogel6225]

Everyone forgets that Urahara at least in the beginning was protective of ichigo, his staff remark on how helping ichigo is the first fight they’ve had in quite a while, and he also went out of his way to strengthen ichigo through shikai training and bringing his hollow/Shinigami powers more to the surface, essentially he knew OMZ wouldn’t let ichigo take more than his surface power, so good old hat and clogs decided to make the hollow a good portion of the surface power

[@maciekwucow3989]

Urahara lies to keep the story going.

[@ergoleon2970]

Urahara: I’ll tell you it’s all fine so that you don’t interrupt my experiments results

[@metal87power]

Most importantly, Isshin DIDN't ask. He wasn't interested in that. He was not a guy who ask questions.

[@justsomeguyonhisphone709]

"Hey there, kiddo! Uncle Urahara here to train you, but make you don't tell your dad about this" -Probably Urahara

[@Resh-3221]

it sounds like a retcon but im glad it was like that.

[@zechariahcaraballo8765]

This is why harada is my favorite game dev (creator and director of tekken) he likes video games he pushes for bandai namco to have smaller devs work on their games like having arc sys make dragon ball fighters

[@andrew6464]

Urahara is the type to not say more than what’s needed ishin couldn’t help ichigo at the time so he didn’t say more than he needed to

[@shawnneal9297]

With holding the truth because it will help the future generations is the majority of life’s problems.

[@mybigwillie6153]

I never noticed it but Isshin carries his zanpakuto like a tachi rather than like a katana

[@LeonardoLuna-zd3xx]

What’s background song from these shorts I believe it’s suicide boys but idk what song exactly

[@Law-of-EnTropy]

Isshin is still a Soul Reaper

[@ichegonicc]

He didn't lie technically he just didn't tell him the truth 😅😅

[@revenantronin8377]

He didn’t lie to Isshin, he simply didn’t tell him the truth. There’s a difference.

[@gyyyyaaatttt]

urahara planned kubo’s birth

[@robertsiemon410]

Honestly I thought it was because Kubo didn't know yet that he wanted urahara to have known them. Much less have been partially responsible for making them into vizards.

[@GSnugg]

Ichigo's hollowfication would've shattered Isshin's beliefs about why most soul reapers hollowfied, and Central 46's orders & explanations. Urahara lied to Isshin for Isshin's own good, likely knowing Isshin would abandon all causes he believed in.

[@Intrepid_Explorer]

Kubo didn't think of it at the time.

[@WrittenbeforeBC]

He is

[@Chilling_Chilling]

Exactly Kubo is NOT Oda. Oda has planned things YEARS AHEAD where as Kubo forgets things like Byakuya/Kenpachi fighting against the "Zero" Espada so he has to end it off screen 😂😂😂

[@ananaskarandash1060]

The least biased one piece fanboy:​@@Chilling_Chilling

[@Chilling_Chilling]

@@ananaskarandash1060 I haven't read/watched OP in YEARS little boy. You Kubo defenders however can't accept valid criticism without screaming: RIIIIIIIIIIII 😂 Give some VALID Oda criticism and I'd accept it. He's not my hero, he's just a mangaka like Kubo. Not like they're out there saving lives or something lmao

[@ananaskarandash1060]

@@Chilling_Chilling I haven't seen you post any valid kubo criticism yet and im not looking forward to it, cause I don't care enough.

[@strider_hiryu850]

the questioners second idea weirdly makes more sense than Kubos. i mean yeah, they hadn't interacted in over 100 years. why should he know their intentions? granted, they hadn't made their moves until after Ichigo and the others came back from Soul Society. so i guess his thought process was something like: "well if they haven't gone rogue yet, they must be waiting for something. or someone. probably Ichigo. yeahhhh... i best keep Isshin in the dark on this one."

[@justinfox1432]

This is the biggest cop out of all time

[@Antonio124Blue]

Facts

[@zortexboco306]

This could have been a 10 second video

[@ChrisMALUKAI]

it was all Aizen's plan

[@thedrx7007]

What episode in the anime are these panels?

[@yahyawihamza4064]

Goated keep up

[@alanespinet8423]

I am sorry to ask this, but what's the name of the music in the background? Thanks

[@regmatshiya1437]

But Isshin could’ve been told this years before Ichigo even gained his Soul Reaper powers

[@kissadev.]

Isshin and the Vaizards didn't have a "relation". It would have been Just gossip. Isshin was Just someone that Urahara helped.

[@kakuzugoated873]

What? The answer doesn't even make sense

[@tharealrebels]

I think it’s just another bleach plot hole tbh🤗

[@shukei26]

Isshin lost his powers so how could he sense that Misaki was in danger that night?

[@corruptangel6793]

I think it's supposed to be like Uryu after losing his powers. He still had his spiritual energy and could sense things. A Hollow even attacked him, but he didn't have any powers to defend himself. Isshin, likewise, wouldn't have any way to help Masaki

[@quaso7558]

​@@corruptangel6793 clearly it was husband's instinct

[@InfuraxOminous]

Hollowfication ... not hollowification

[@zenkaiser9534]

9 comments in this short is insane

[@tgrmftechgamer]

Everyone say aizen is best manipulator but i say urhara is better than aizen in manipulating

[@arquanlockett4714]

How strong is renji's bankai

[@John_Doe742]

Not very strong

[@regmatshiya1437]

It’s strong in TYBW cuz he easily took out a sternritter (Mask de Masculine) that bodied two visored captains (Rose and Kenshi) Meaning he was massively stronger than the two of them combined This was also after Mask had undergone multiple evolutions from James powering him up but Renji still beat him easily without a scratch on him

[@corruptangel6793]

Which one?

[@4nimeeditz608]

Philza?

[@necromancer1463]

Isshin fights who?

[@ikari6399]

Isshin would've had zero qualms with offing his son if he knew back then.

[@InnerTriggerer]

but how ?

[@crafty_prop]

its called retcon.

[@yahyawihamza4064]

What is it exactly ?

[@yahyawihamza4064]

What is it exactly ?

[@shukei26]

​@@yahyawihamza4064 retcon is the process of removing something that was once canon in a series. For instance in the Ben 10 series episode Ben 10000 there is a girl who was confirmed to be Bens daughter however in the later episode Ken 10 Bens son Ken is an only child. She was "retconned" out of existence

[@yahyawihamza4064]

@@shukei26 i see thank you

[@kakashihatake1029]

True. And there's no way to deny it in this particular case