Why didn't Ed Reed wind up coaching at Bethune-Cookman after all? | Brother From Another

[@thaddeussmith8394]

That mindset that is displayed on this show is why HBCU are struggling. Edd Reed was the best thing that could happen to BCU. Yes I did attend an HBCU and it was a mess and still is.

[@TyBeTroLLing]

Facts 3 beta males and a feminist

[@slapjones1959]

Right I haven't said the word Bethune-cookman since high school and never thought about it and I'm black raise in south and I'm 48 years old

[@rend1846]

Right on Bro 😎

[@justice172005]

Thank you!

[@TheRealTruth06]

​@@slapjones1959 and who supposed to give af that you ain't mentioned our name. 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@Kalitheartist]

So the panel watched the interview Ed Reed had with Roland Martin but didn’t watch the interview Roland had with the school president, school SGA, Football players, and alumni association. The BCU president literally got caught lying on multiple topic. Are you serious! And as a Morgan State grad, I’m ashamed of Professor Jackson commentary.

[@kingsaco]

Yes, the are talking blindfolded.

[@Smartriide]

Exactly, plus the hate for Coach Prime is real. This panel of black journalist. I am intelligent, black folks, really dropped the ball here

[@ervins1416]

Why are we Like this. I thought it was me. I don’t know if it’s the crab in the bucket mentality or they can’t see the bigger picture. These kids are living in inhumane conditions . But they mad at Ed Reed.

[@Smartriide]

@@ervins1416 they think there smarter then the dumb football players trying to coach and over looking the real issue

[@EAJ1980]

Thank you....Ed Reed is mad about the conditions these kids live in. And this man has led men on the field as a player , worked in Buffalo as a coach in 2016 and two years at UM and runs the Ed Reed Foundation yet these cats are questioning Ed Reed as a leader. Ed brought to light an issue that these kids apparently could not get the board to move on prior to this. Ed Reed didn't attack all HBCUs, Ed Reed addressed BCC's issues and I bet you they expected Ed to do what Deion did and use his own funds to fund that program.

[@ravensfan2380]

I don't understand the need to call either Deion or Ed clowns. Ed may have handled things the wrong way but clearly his words carried a ton of weight if there are non student athletes protesting as well. While this panel makes some good points, it feels more like they are pissed at Ed and Deion for shedding light on the problems as opposed to the fact that there are actually problems. If the kids are truly what most important to everyone, I'd love to see less name calling and more educated people coming together to find solutions.

[@dalecarter7158]

I totally agree with your point. It seems they know there’s a problem with Bethune Cookman, but because Ed and Deion are not hbcu culture, Deion and Ed still brought things to light. Why is that a bad thing?

[@1hermitcrab4u]

I totally agree. It's smtime we stop talking about Ed Reed and it's been time to move on from D. Sanders and address the important issues here. THE STUDENTS! How much longer are we going to ignore the blatant disregard for those kids! As for the whole gov. Funding ISSUE. that's irrelevant in this case because these kids are paying 30k if not more per year to attend this PRIVATE INSTITUTION! Where is their tuition going!

[@ervins1416]

These 4 people pissed me off. With there BS talk I thought I was the only one

[@derrickjones5041]

Facts!!!!

[@kevsnoop81]

Exactly. Dude that made that comment was all in his feelings in this interview. They act like Deion and JSU didn't use each other for equal benefit. JSU knew he didn't have experience but they saw an opportunity to lift their profile exponentially.

[@ChefDeli87]

Ed Reed handled everything terribly, but the Deion slander is coming off as jealousy and hate from this panel. How did Deion "pimp" Jackson State?? He brought the city $30M in revenue from coaching football games... 2 back to back SWAC chips, TV deals, new facilities, Under Armour and Walmart sponsorships, I mean what are y'all talking about man lol. So what if he left after 3 years, who else has contributed even a fraction of that?

[@LouisianaBoy]

Two things could be true! He used them and did all those other things.

[@pakONEoh]

Exactly!!! Deion was doing the actual work and spending his own money. Hell, he even had his children enroll at the school. The Deion slander is BS and is the only thing truly disappointing in the commentary.

[@robertx5880]

....and when it was over not only did he leave, he tried to take every bit of talent with him. It was always about Deion. He has been telling us that every since his FSU days.

[@kingsaco]

Deion had several school interviewing him for the head coaching job, but he chose Jackson State!

[@teemigo6921]

@Robert x Isn't that what a coach is supposed to do? You really think those kids were going to stay there?

[@arizenmusic]

The panelists laid out a case for why someone who can and want to actually help improve circumstances at HBCUs may avoid doing so. They offered fair criticisms of Ed Reed but attacked his public approach to criticism the issues he saw at BCU. Thanks to Ed Reed the issues have been exposed and the players were given a chance to be heard on Roland Martin’s show. None of that would have happened without the issues being made public. 3/4 of the panel reminded me of Fox News pundits who pretend like they don’t understand why people protest police killings.

[@WrightOne89]

Bingo

[@DonBrownII]

thank 👏🏽you 👏🏽thank 👏🏽you👏🏽 thank 👏🏽youuuuuuu 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 I'm a Black man and I'm listening to these ppl talk like, wthhhhhhhh?!?!?!

[@ghostingdagame7090]

These mf is lame period. They trying to push the narrative that ed was the wrong n….a for the job. You need one of these n…. On this panel right? Thats what they doing is making him sound like a ignorant n….. lame as f…

[@registame2878]

Exactly…. why on earth would they want to work or help people who think you are not worthy of them.. telling someone they don’t know something without telling them what it is they should know is a skill only a few can truly perfect; to the panel’s credit they made it clear HBCU’s don’t really care about sports rightly or wrongly so go else where: this technically means black people who want to help or work for HBCU’s to actually develop programs should actually go else where.. simple

[@derekm4819]

Many (too many) black Americans hate the truth and or criticism of obvious faults. This BS panel is a prime example of that reality. These black denialists are part of the problem and a solution to anything besides az kissing our enemies and backstabbing our people.

[@do140511]

This was a weak one sided discussion. This group already made their mind up and are completely ignoring what the students are going through at that school. Ed Reed went about the wrong way but this is bigger than Ed Reed. There is clearly something wrong with that administration at Bethune Cookman and all this panel wanted convey was their distain for Ed Reed and Deon.

[@regd8202]

Facts

[@caluke85]

Ater watching most of the program, I had to turn it off. I got the impression that we should just accept the financial and leadership problems at our HBCUs. Ed Reed's message was needed because most of us were unaware of the shape BCU was in related to its finances and leadership. We must demand better and commit to being better instead of making excuses. We can dislike Ed Reed's approach and bad judgement but we must look at the most pressing concern which is the students' experience.

[@wytelester-green8891]

Why because they not bowing for your favorite football players FOH

[@llc8508]

It's DISDAIN... not distain

[@llc8508]

This is not about the administration at bethune cookman... it's about Ed Reed airing out his grievances to social media instead of THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO HIRE HIM. You have an issue at work? TAKE THAT SHIT TO THE BOSS. NOT SOCIAL MEDIA.

[@Dialedup-]

The students are correct end of story. There's no such thing as a perfect messenger just a perfect message.

[@HTHAMMACK1]

BS!

[@stanleygreen9073]

💯💯💯 These fools dont care about the students. These fools keep saying the same tired ass ,"they dont know HBCU history, tradition" etc. Coach Reed was really shedding light on the higher ups (AD's, Presidents and committees). These fools want to gloss over the fact those higher ups control the money and not putting it to where it's supposed to go.

[@TChalla007]

🎯🎯

[@kevsnoop81]

This whole interview was more about four people venting their emotions and less about stating ALL of the facts. They even took time out to bash Deion about his time at JSU. I don't know a football coach in America that is hired on to save a whole university from sinking financially but from the sound of some on this panal, that's what they expected of Deion and Ed lol.

[@anthonygodfrey8189]

Exactly

[@mmossjr]

Fact!!!!!!

[@ronaldwilkinsknowledge3748]

Facts damn 🤡 show.

[@Angld003]

I totally agree with your statement bro! Just our people bashing our people!

[@nareeansar8340]

You dumb

[@thomasclark1466]

As an HBCU athlete I really hated hearing “HBCU don’t care about athletes”

[@ronjea]

Yeah he sounded dumb when he said that. Dude don’t even look or sound like he watch sports so he probably don’t care.

[@soda8736]

@@ronjea He writes for deadspin and their goal is to cover sports ,but make everything racial or sexist

[@michaelcook4321]

That podcast is coming from a group of folks that wish they were athletes and since they can't ever be one they fill big talking down on athletes.

[@jclemons121384]

Yeah I won't feeling that.

[@kennyconrad3332]

Wow!! My ears just explode when I heard him say..." if you want to be a better person come to the HBCU schools " but I can sleep in my car as I'm going to school there. WOW!!

[@MixedByDnyce]

All I heard was no accountability. Ed exposed them... we can see with clarity their problem because the alums and students are now vocal about it but we are supposed to act like it’s not valid because Ed was EXTREMELY unprofessional... if he didn’t do that nobody would even care about the story... it took the outburst to start the outrage🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️ the two situations are married. And yes I went to a HBCU

[@tagon70]

Sir Let’s be honest Most black peoples couldn’t name 10 Hbcu’s. We worship black celebrities..BCU students protested in 2018..crickets!!!If black people don’t care about their institutions,that’s on us.. we gotta wait for some unhinged dude to go on social media?not to mention Politically we are lost…biden gave 2.7 billion to black institutions,11 billion to Hispanic institutions and 5 billion to Asian..but no one has the smoke for the Democratic Party..We only jump on each other with old news..I went to Florida A&M btw..It’s simple.are going to chase the white bag or are we going build and repair our own..

[@BigGameVision]

That’s exactly what I heard. Caping for these schools mess.

[@MagnusMedina]

But no one denies BCU has issues. So why go live on IG? What tangible constructive benefit was achieved by doing so? It only served to humiliate the poor 3700-student church school that just got hit by a hurricane 2 months ago. Did he hope the people on IG would send in donations? To the contrary, it only opened the floodgates to further denigrate the school (and all HBCUs). Everything is worse off than before, directly due to his behavior.

[@KingStreetBrody]

@@MagnusMedina we’re talking about it. They can no longer pretend it’s put up or shut up

[@BrandonSmith-rb1bf]

@@MagnusMedina I can't believe they have just 3700 students. I think that's about the same amount my JUCO had. If they only have 3700, they are probably not going to get much funding in the first place.

[@CitizenEdge]

*It wasn't meant for Ed Reed to Coach Bethune-Cookman. BC wasn't ready for Ed and Ed wasn't ready for BC. I'm just glad the trap house now finally got surveillance footage! This was a necessary punch in the mouth for BC, HBCUs, The Black Community, and the American Community.*

[@CitizenEdge]

@@Beautifulsun8 *The days of putting your head down are over. Either speak up or GTFOH!*

[@ronaldwilkinsknowledge3748]

Accountability

[@DonBrownII]

8:28 if BCU wasn’t ready for these conversations, then that is an indictment of themselves

[@ronaldwilkinsknowledge3748]

💥

[@romeheux]

I graduated from NC A&T State. We are currently the biggest HBCU. We have a world class track and track team. 4x Celebration Bowl winners before leaving the MEAC. My campus was clean. I am sorry to hear about some other situations, but all HBCUs are not in poor order. Ed Reed was wrong for generalizing all HBCUs.

[@ujamaa4]

Exactly, and AGGIE PRIDE

[@Kevinschart]

Aggie here. I've been saying the same thing. Don't throw my school in the bag with the others.

[@Bradley5221]

Agreed

[@countlessworld620]

HBCUs are Dog houses with shit everywhere 💯

[@wisdomislove7098]

I'm sorry 😞 for your ass, but I can also tell you ok, you came from a decent place, & thank God you came from the exception, but I can guarantee 💯 that the majority of those "HBCU'S" that are run by that "BOURGEOISIE" group is sub-par at best, & just because Black people put up with that crap & have actually got use to living in that type of environment 🌊🦈🌊shark waters, where the dorm life on the kids are all but intolerable & many other thangs that only the kids can break down, that's why "ALL" of them are out their fighting for 👉"WHO"👈 🤔? It ain't for that damn "Bourgeoise" oh no, they screaming get rid of their asses & bring back "ED"👌🏼; another thang, this man ain't exactly looking for no damn job, ♨️☄hell🤷‍♂️he's already a 🤑millionaire, so what the hell🔥 y'all talking bout, "Ed" saw how "Deion" was helping those kids over there, & so he wanted to help with his free time & with his multit- ude of connections help raise that school up from the damn dead🪦, what's wrong with that, another thang, that same "Bourgeoisie" group that "Deion" had to deal with of course with different names, & if truth be told it is the very same reason why he left having to have to deal with that jive ass jealous "Bourgeoisie" group 👌🏼, that's exactly why he left, he just didn't tell it like "ED" is telling it, "Deion" covered it over with love, cause he didn't want to expose the bad greedy ass actors & once he saw the game being played with the 👉💰bank for 3 seasons he said 👌🏼, I'm out of here & I won't tell on you "Bourgeoisie GATEKEEPER'S", but because of all the "C🦧🦧N'S🐕" on every level of life, Black people are now facing "Genocide" 💉& most of them don't even realize it. Amen 🙏!!!

[@Kevinschart]

Ed can't even conduct a proper interview without his handler beside him, and he still shat the bed. He's up there looking like Kanye West while trying to be a head coach at a university. NO! It doesn't work that way here in reality. Maybe in imagination land Ed gets to be a head coach in 2023, but here on Earth he is not ready. Dude threw Jackson, Grambling and Deion under the bus in a single sentence

[@blacknetsmed]

A head coach at a university is a position where they are essentially corporate representatives of the school. How that person comports themselves matters. Forget about BCU, Ed Reed has exposed him at the moment as someone who is unfit for ANY Collegiate Head Coaching job.

[@lindanash3187]

Exactly

[@ckbama17]

Exactly. Every time Ed Reed opens his mouth it more so confirms he’s not ready.

[@TheRealTruth06]

You are exactly right, but the celebrity idolators will never understand. That mic drop at 24:14 was LETHAL. And as an alumnus, former resident, and residential assistant at Bethune Cookman, I can assure you that the issues being raised about the school are much more nuanced than they are being presented. Everybody is piling on our university that is still recovering from a crooked president who was stealing MILLIONS. This was the financial mismanagement that almost cost us our accreditation. We could've easily been Morris Brown 2002 right now. Along with some bad business deals and debts that had to be restructured, financially the school is just now getting into a position where they can breathe again. And finally I'll say that the students are placing a lot of blame for their living conditions on the administration when a majority of it boils down to poor hygiene. Notice they didn't say mold in the library or cafeteria. Mold in the dorms. Don't come complaining to me about mold in your shower because that tells me, you haven't been cleaning your bathroom. In hot humid Florida right next to the Atlantic ocean in a flood zone, there are certain games we cannot play. And as a former residential assistant who was responsible for room checks, I've seen personally students being unclean on a regular basis. So I don't wanna hear it.

[@eugeneyoung1796]

Did he really call Deion Sanders and Ed Reed clowns these ppl are jokes

[@lovellecannon1067]

That dude crazy

[@blacknetsmed]

Carron Phillips is a clown. A "woke" buffoon who writes for Deadspin of all publications, not The Root, Essence etc. He whines and cries about portraying negative stereotypes onto HBCUs, but had no issues reinforce negative stereotypes onto Deion Sanders by calling him pimp.

[@bbginc694]

Not everyone is enamored by former pro athletes. Stop the worship already lol

[@ronjea]

@@bbginc694 them top high school players and sponsors are enamored to those pro athletes coming to the school and that definitely matters

[@youdub7926]

@@ronjea yeah not really, Look at Eddie George he is not getting any big timr recruits. Prime is an outlier, his crazy personality and the fact he was a 2 sport pro athlete makes him a rare one. Doesnt mean Ed Reed is going to do the same, they are 2 completely different personalities.

[@cooperdeshawn]

For this panel to be so educated they like to speak aggressively knowing that they wouldn’t speak to Ed nor Deion with the same level of disrespect if they were in front of them.

[@robertx5880]

Ed Reed and Deion has been just as disrespectful to the people that was there doing the work prior to the spotlight.

[@DonBrownII]

come on and talk 👏🏽about 👏🏽it! 👏🏽 they'd be singing a diff tune.

[@DonBrownII]

@@robertx5880 hmmmm...that is a good point right here. I do think sometimes these new hires can enter a scene a little more gracefully than they currently do. It does seem like ED Reed did some homework on the university and its origin, he seems well-educated on that. However, i think he let his emotions get the best of him, and didn't see the full picture of how the schol couldve wound up in its current condition. A LOT won't get done when youre consistently defunded, and thats what a lot of HBCU's eperience.

[@cooperdeshawn]

@@robertx5880 neither Deion nor did Ed Reed call either one of these panelists out of their name or even mentioned them. These people are trying to troll their way into mass appeal by getting a response from those HOF players.

[@robertx5880]

Well, they both walked into their situations starting out talking about what is wrong. And both declared that they have done more in x number of days than.....You don't walk into any situation like that.

[@blacktonight2919]

Every time I watch this show it reminds me why I don’t

[@Eccentricmarkets561]

This show is fuckin ass, no wonder he got fired from espn

[@Chance_ForForeverBV]

FACTS!!!

[@tical2399]

Yea nobody cares what you do or don't watch uncle ruckus

[@ghostingdagame7090]

Worst fucking show i have every seen period. My last time ever watching.

[@freemypurplesoulchannel4337]

Big facts these black ppl look like us but not us! #nosoul

[@archied2696]

I hate this. Without HBCU’s a lot of black kids wouldn’t have an education. I went to a HBCU 30 years ago and believe me they have come a long way. It’s disrespectful to the people that have worked hard and sacrificed to help our black kids get an education that we couldn’t have gotten anywhere else.

[@tobinknightsamuels]

This hate for Prime is so sad, when did the man he was going to stay at JSU for ever? They wouldn't be talking shit about white coaches or when they themselves take a better job.

[@glosyreq]

This is why nothing changes in the community, they are delusional and haters. Calling them clowns very disrespectful.

[@freshtadet]

Deion telling Ed Reed sometimes you have to let it go is no different than any friend saying the same thing about just about any other subject (job,relationship, friendship, investment, children) sometimes you have to let go. I bet those students at BCU glad Ed Reed said what he said

[@rodjones101]

Yeah I bet the students are glad that this puts some pressure on the admin at BC to do more cosmetic stuff on the yard. But that's only a bandaid for a more severe wound.... Which is the lack of funding from state and local governments that HBCUs have to deal with. That's where the protest/attention needs to be, the powers that be that control the purse strings.

[@MagnusMedina]

But that wasn't the issue. It's about how Deion so-called "empathized" with Ed's grievances as if they worked at the same school. Deion used it as an opportunity to denigrate all HBCUs when this is/was specifically a BCU issue.

[@BrandonSmith-rb1bf]

@@rodjones101 They need to get that mold out the rooms first. Period.

[@BrandonSmith-rb1bf]

@@MagnusMedina that facetime call, specifically, was Deion telling Ed that it was over and to move on. If you all are talking about something other than that facetime call, then IDK

[@MagnusMedina]

@@BrandonSmith-rb1bf yes I'm referring directly to that particular FaceTime call

[@Thewavegodp]

I usually roll with y’all when it comes to a lot of these topics, but for this one, I’m particularly disappointed. For four black panelists to not only malign these black men but to position yourselves in a way that says that the BS these campuses pass off as culture is not only dishonest but detrimental. As someone who has attended a BLACK University that was filled with corruption, and filled with discontent, it saddens me. It also is telling when the passionate every expresses is good enough to play in the NFL league enough to be in the Hall of Fame, but not good enough to coach youth sports; Something that he’s been doing and cities all across the country since he retired from the NFL. What’s even more ironic you may ask? You tear down Deion Sanders, for being someone who is not an HBCU graduate but is a black man who can articulate the issues and come up with solutions to those problems and you you don’t want someone like every who is a bit more passionate, but is actively trying to address the issues as well. So just say unless you’ve gone to an HBCU we don’t want your help and support. because in my mind, we’re going to need people that look like us to support the cause that is HBCUs. Because I’m pretty sure we don’t have the same criteria for them white folks who are keeping the money out of our schools, or are unwilling to support through any investment.

[@Bluejacket4life2]

Its obivous Mr. Phillips doesn't like Deion

[@jrideaux1632]

I go to Texas State University (a PWI) reason being is that I have 2 kids and couldn’t just pick up and move to Houston (closest HBCU) but I have a classmate who was on a volleyball scholarship at BCU (before the hurricanes and Ed Reed) and well her reason for leaving BCU is exactly what Ed was ranting about and why the students were protesting. She informed us that it was the worst experience in her life because of the conditions of the school, but what stuck out the most was how she said that sometimes professors didn’t show up to class and that she got the impression that they didn’t really care if she (and the rest of the students) got their education (mainly because you have to be paid in full before you can attend) so putting athletics to the side what about the non athletes who are suffering? BCU has been on probation for misrepresenting funds . So the history of HBCUs is to give their students less? With an average cost of $17,000 after aid I’d be pissed too if I had to sleep in a room with mold or mildew, I would also feel some type of way if unauthorized people were allowed to be on campus

[@scabini22]

That’s not the history of HBCU’s!! That’s a specific problem you spoke to regarding BCU! Not All HBCU’s. This is the danger and problem with this situation. NCAT, FAMU, Howard, NC Central and several HBCU’s don’t give less! Had you attended any of these institutions you would certainly feel that you got more.

[@jrideaux1632]

@@scabini22 I might be wrong but judging by my comment BCU was the only school I mentioned…. I never once said ALL HBCUs. I said that I don’t go to an HBCU because I couldn’t just pack my family up and move to Houston which is where the closest HBCU is to me

[@elvinprice2453]

so because one student had a bad experience at BCU thats all HBCUs? Come on man yall gotta stop acting like all PWIs are great and every student at PWIs enjoy their time there. I can name hundreds of co-workers I work with that had horrible experiences at PWIs (well known in texas PWIs) so if you not gone be a part of the solutions mannn just stop talking and worry about your school and your degree man period!

[@jrideaux1632]

@@elvinprice2453 all you had to do was read the whole comment, I specifically said that I don’t go to an HBCU because I don’t live near one and can’t just pack my family up, and the person who had a bad time was specifically at BCU idk where yall are getting that I’m saying All HBCUs but maybe that’s half the problem yall only want to comment instead of comprehending just like BCU isn’t interested in fixing their problems only pointing fingers at Ed Reed. At the end of the day if I were those parents I’d withdraw my child and my money from BCU until they get their shit together…. NOW you can say that I shit on an HBCU

[@jrideaux1632]

@@elvinprice2453 and just so we’re clear I’ve heard nothing but great things about PV my specific argument was towards BCU

[@tysportstv]

Ed Reed reaction was exactly what was needed black people need to hold black people to a higher standard so we can become stronger and better it's insane to be mad how the message was delivered but not be mad at the problem

[@CoCoFantastique]

Ed can be held to a higher standard as well. That IG rant was ridiculous. His behavior was emotionally immature. You can be passionate and professional at the same time. He apologized for his unprofessionalism but he needs to understand that unprofessionalism cost him the position.

[@tysportstv]

What's unprofessional is those kids breathing in mold and homeless and crackheads walking through campus and them cutting kids scholarships off in their senior years trash all over the campus rats in the buildings and admiration and leadership not having any relationship with their students those young men and women chose college to better their lives and most to get out of bad situations so they can do better Ed Reed has already lived his dream I don't care about his behaviors I do care about what he said and is it true if it is give these kids at least healthy living conditions and a safe campus and that's minimal

[@professorxaviour3649]

@@tysportstv was Ed going to build bcu new dorms within the next 2 months?? So what purpose did he serve???

[@tysportstv]

@@professorxaviour3649 my point is you fired Ed Reed he's gone students and alumni are telling there's problems there it's almost like bcu has the street mentality blame the snitch not the shooter when y'all done with Ed Reed them kids still need answers

[@eddieray7094]

All that was talked about was how bad Ed Reed was for Bethune Cookman. It’s sad to hear the excuses made about decades of poor support the HBCUs when the problems identified were basic sanitation and security issues. These issues don’t take millions of dollars to fix. They only take the fat lazy excuse making leadership to get off their cans consistently walk the campus and make people that are already there do their jobs. These “administrators” make high six figure salaries but won’t supervise to get the fundamental issues fixed. You don’t need a huge endowment to clean and secure the campus!

[@Kevinschart]

That's the topic of the conversation. The video name told you exactly what they were going to be discussing. Just because you don't know how to stay on topic doesn't mean they can't have a separate conversation about Reed. This is a sports show, not a university town hall.

[@eddieray7094]

@@Kevinschart The conditions the football team faces isn’t a relevant topic for a sports show, but Ed Reed’s frustration and rant is a relevant topic for a sports show?

[@thespadestable]

@@eddieray7094 - Ed Reed's complaint is not exclusive to just HBCUs. Everyone loves to set sights on the top sports college programs in the U.S., but there are tons of small colleges and universities that are in the same shape as HBCU programs, with some having to discontinue their programs. Living conditions are in need of constant repair and upgrading, but with all, there is limited funding to be drawn out of their endowments. Just because a school has an annual endowment of $50-$75m, does not mean they have access of $50-$70m to put towards dorm and facility repair and maintenance. Ed Reed attended the University of Miami and played well enough to enjoy the perks of playing for a major football program. Then played in the NFL for over a decade, returned to U of M, then took a major step down to coach at Reed-Bethune Cookman, and quickly realized he was no longer in the world he grew accustomed to, and did not have the maturity of properly address it.

[@craigferrell3966]

Attended two HBCUs and this will be my last time watching this channel. What was JSU record before Deion?

[@TheRealTruth06]

They've gone undefeated in the SWAC before. They've had much more legendary coaches that impacted their program much more than Deion. They had the highest attendance in ALL FCS football (not just HBCU) football before Deion. If you think Deion made JSU, that's only proof that you don't know JSU

[@Alpha-pe7nz]

How can they call someone that’s more accomplished, have more resources, have more to offer, and probably help more ppl than everyone on the panel a clown?

[@DonBrownII]

i know, right!?? seriously...these ppl on this show are bugging rn

[@dot4126]

More money does not mean your more accomplished than someone. They are speaking the truth it starts with state funding and states don't fund black schools. If you know anything about education you would know that

[@DonBrownII]

9:48 homeboy in the lower left corner BIG MAD 😂😂😂😂

[@ThaRealM3]

Dude speaking mad emotional and just talking down... Only person I could kind of take serious was the woman who atleast tried to give facts from both sides don't feel like they took it that serious

[@oilyque]

Facts. he took it personal. Like Prime or someone football player snubbed him.

[@_CPerk]

Giving weirdo vibes

[@ronaldwilkinsknowledge3748]

classic hater with alot of feminine energy.

[@PickJ]

Real spicy! Unnecessarily so.

[@dougsarjeant]

So Deion should have kept quiet about the school stealing from him even though he came out of his pocket for them???? 😂😂😂 And dude had the nerve to call Deion a clown, we live in a wild society.

[@Wideout4]

Nobody stole from Sanders you are just repeating a social media lie knock it off

[@dougsarjeant]

@@Wideout4 I’m pretty sure there’s an interview where he comes out and says it

[@Wideout4]

@@dougsarjeant no it was a hypothetical this has been debunked over and over and over

[@dougsarjeant]

@@Wideout4 if you don’t mind, who debunked it?

[@leroygardner1026]

Doug this is why our hbcu sport programs will always be considered an after thought. Once this fool called these two gentlemen clowns I was done.

[@RollinwitBen]

It would not be this much conversation about HBCU if coach prime wouldn’t have went to JSU

[@rodjones101]

Yeah but Coach prime couldn't get a head coaching job anywhere else.... He went to the only place they would give him the opportunity to be the face of the football program, an HBCU.

[@ladyc9188]

This is ridiculous. The BCU students are being mistreated and should request a refund - money talks.

[@mike56b]

Talk about these schools stealing or Mishandling money

[@hieian]

By the way, those billionaires that Ed was going to bring will not give any money to that university where they know that it would go into the administrators' pockets.

[@TexasAutoInsurance]

If he really had "billionaires" lined up...he shouldn't have any problem getting another opportunity benzoate other colleges would love to get those donations.

[@hieian]

@@TexasAutoInsurance Looks like you did not do any reading & research where he chose Bethune over two other universities. He was more concerned with the black youth to choose Bethune.

[@monden636]

@@hieian So what were the other 2 schools?

[@Romans128renew]

These guest panelists are very sad and disappointing. I didn’t attend a HBCU and I know more about them than those who attended. You don’t have the sole authority to speak on them just because you attended. That guy hatred for Deion is baffling and that female panelist needs to be exposed to something more than Mississippi. Jason is the reason I stop watching MSNBC , he is an emotional woman who constantly shows his bias and can’t be objective.

[@samm.3164]

This conversation is so heavily one sided….this is ridiculous! Those in the administration are going to be fine. Ed Reed is going to be fine. What about the freaking students??? The conditions that they are living in and practicing in is unhealthy and disgusting!!!

[@theworkethic]

F Ed Reed

[@jsutigers06]

You was only listening to respond. 😂 Watch it again to listen and understand. They clearly told you the reason why there are issues.

[@Godgifts28]

Roland Martin reach out to the administration they declined interview

[@bighutch2202]

@JSU TIGERS 06 perhaps everybody doesn't agree with their narrative. There have been issues of financial mismanagement as well but they didn't mention any of that. Whenever a black person brings those points up as part of issue beyond the systemic racism. they are bashed as anti-black or at a minimum, anti-hbcu. It's as if there is a code that prevents us from honest self-examination.

[@theworkethic]

@@Godgifts28 They don’t the bs for these show chasers looking to build content, neither do they need to explain anything to anyone. That’s how you handle things. They have things to do, not be your entertainment

[@TheJuice5403]

I also have to say that this is a one-sided conversation. I went to an HBCU... I know what it's really like....yall too politically correct...And yall too woke, so yall be going out of your way to not paint certain people in certain lights cause yall be afraid of the backlash. I want to love this channel, but Holley and Smith didn't build this show of having real and honest conversations because they just cave to being woke.....HBCUs are great socially....they suck in all other aspects, and it's not because of funding...which yes, they are cheated out of in a major way, but the issues I've seen with HBCUs over the last 20 years is less about the obvious lack of funding, and more about the people who seem to be put in charge of the areas that are the most importance and significance to the students. That's where they fall. Yes, they are not getting the money they should be getting. Now that we've addressed that, let's look at the money we are getting......wow, where is that money disappearing to? And we all know that's happening, but not one of you were willing to address that very real situation....we just want to make Prime and Ed Reed look like they are just crazy beyond understanding. We can sit here and make the issue about these two men, but it's not....these schools have real issues, and it's not all about what is being done to them, but a very large part of the issue with these schools are internal. That's part of the conversation too, black people. We can't bring ourselves to a better place if we ain't going to have real conversations.

[@eddiemoorer2367]

This is the comment and my main issue with the conversation.

[@gamedwards]

Disappointed…national platform used to bash individuals that I too think handled their situations wrong, but where was the part of the discussion that 26:35 focused on accountability for these young people. The acting President of the University and the AD have both given conflicting information on the conditions the students are dealing with. As one of you stated…”Either someone is dry snitching or straight up lying.” To take your jabs at individuals attempting to make things better and not address administrators that have made decisions that made things worse is a terrible waste of this space to have a conversation that is focused on working towards positive change.

[@Kevinschart]

Read the title of the video. They stayed on topic. You should try it.

[@kevsnoop81]

@@Kevinschart It literally strayed off topic as soon as Carron Phillips got in his feelings and started talking about Deion and then said "no one cares about those athletes". And they kept bringing Deion back into the conversation. Half of this interview about Deion's time at JSU or crying about the financial problems HBCUs are facing as a whole blah blah blah. This whole interview was from a place of emotion and less about the facts.

[@corbinbarnes]

Y'all ain't nothing but some house niggas 😂

[@soccerlove_dad]

21:40 so when BCU keeps replacing their presidents after a few years, do you get angry for that?

[@battlescorn]

Apparently many in the comment section are disappointed at not getting enough confirmation bias. They explicitly stated, "two things can be simultaneously true." BCU leadership is a mess. And ER has demonstrated to not yet be ready for the role of HC of a college. Q

[@kelj4517]

I attended a HBCU back in 2002 for one year. To make a long story short it was one of the worst experiences in my life. I thought going to a HBCU was going to be a uplifting experience because I’m black and most of the student body is black. I had been stolen from twice in the dorm and was being bullied by my own race! When I did report my issues to leadership they did not take my concerns seriously! I joined the AirForce the year after and that was the best decision I made in my life. I’m a better person because the military gave me a better life. This was just my experience.

[@dannydglover]

Go see a therapist. Let that hurt go-bullied fool? 😂😂😂

[@SmartDave60]

Which school?

[@TheeDrPrincess]

Which HBCU bc ALL HBCUs weren't the same

[@kelj4517]

@ NEW SZN I’m not saying all HBCU’s are the same! That was my experience at the HBCU I attended.

[@TheeDrPrincess]

@@kelj4517 well say which school instead of " HBCU "... bc u can be talking about any 107 hbcu

[@ericbrown118]

Who is this guy?? Deion did an amazing job.

[@impervious99]

Man none of this had anything to do with admins stealing money. Not having security on campus, terrible facilities, bad teaching, inadequate staffing etc. This is why we don't have anything. Y'all so worried about hbcu "street cred" . This victim mentality is trash. Do better

[@Kevinschart]

because they are having an Ed Reed conversation not a Bethune Cookman conversation. what part about that don't you understand?

[@Mr813Fla]

The "Upity" "Educated Negro" vibes from this panel. They definitely have an axe to grind against people that didn't go to HBCU's. Deion and Ed Reed was trying to help. Deion absolutely helped. They come off as being a "know it all". If this is a snap shot on how HBCU alumni think, well it will be hard to change things. They have a "I'm better than you" "I know more than you" "You didn't go to a HBCU, so you can't tell me nothing" attitude.

[@charleswhite7035]

Why is it that when a black man becomes educated and can express himself in an articulate eloquent manner he is called "Upity" and called an educated negro especially by other black people. Whatever happened to striving for excellence.

[@Mr813Fla]

@@charleswhite7035 That's how they are coming off, not bc they are educated but saying if you didn't get your education from a HBCU you don't have a say in the matter. The way they talk about Prime Time etc... It's a level of smug and arrogance.

[@mrdavidashley6892]

"don't nobody care about these athletes" ? Aren't they students? What the hell are these people talking about?

[@_CPerk]

The bro wearing the Spelman and Morehouse gear is talking nonsense. He basically saying unless you attended a HBCU, you can’t work there. Smh. No wonder these schools can’t get right with that mindset.

[@TheQuietStorm08]

Ed Reed went about outing Bethune-Cookman University the wrong way but you have to admit this: his heart was in the right place. Maybe he felt the students wouldn't have a voice so he shown a light on it. Malcolm X said it best: "Early in life I learned that if you want something, you better make some noise." Ed Reed made that noise and then some.

[@corneliusjones7183]

This is why HBCUS will never get elite black players and coaches. They are corrupt the core.

[@Kevinschart]

so you're just gonna generalize hbcus huh? you're another crab in the barrel

[@corneliusjones7183]

@@Kevinschartyes i am what have they done for black people? They are boule elites who look down on black people because they are in bed with their Greek letter freaks and white liberal masters. They are stealing money from the black students and putting it in their pockets

[@soda8736]

Sorta like African countries and black run Caribbean countries . Corrupt people at the top living good and everyone else suffers. At some point we got to stop crying about white people.

[@andreoates8405]

Gentlemen, he was never hired to the University he was a candidate for that position they never signed a contract. He was not employee of the University, Ed reed showed he has no emotional discipline to communicate he had no experience coaching a team. They were willing to take a chance on him, but he showed he’s not ready for that position.

[@qt1622]

To see him on Roland Martin crying was just too much . He gotta tighten the emotional intelligence up, whether with therapy or something else idk . But I wouldn’t trust him to mentor my son. Respectfully

[@angelicaharrell6818]

Agreed!!!

[@andreoates8405]

@@qt1622 in the workplace you can’t go off and see what you want to say in a meeting and think you’re gonna have a job, I’ve learned you have to move within the system, gradual steps, and to communicate or convey the things you would like to change I guess you say you have to be diplomatic 🤔

[@terrancea.7027]

Deion did have a coaching resume to go coach D1 out of high school!!!!They are butt hurt about them putting HBCU standards in the limelight. Totally didn't expect this conversation. Not acknowledging the mold situation and money allocations just defending their HBCUs.

[@bladerunner27x]

I'm CONFUSED, so HBCU's are supposed to remain BROKE and sports should not be funded. Is that your point. I'm a HBCU Graduate (LOC1996) Memphis, TN.

[@regd8202]

Yeah it sounds like people are being defensive about just pointing things out. Is he right or wrong about what he said.

[@dfrnt_hues]

The Deion slander is wild. Folks act like coaching isn’t a profession. Deion was professional the whole time as a coach. Ed Reed was unprofessional and lost the job. These folks are acting like Deion is Terry Cruz or something smh.

[@blacknetsmed]

Exactly, they are intentionally conflating Deion Sanders with Ed Reed. When in reality those are two completely different situations.

[@bbginc694]

Well Ed Reed said Prime offerree him the job at JSU. One of them 2 are lying.

[@shakim3000]

Yo Deion was just as dusty making wild accusations about JSU that wasn't true, like somebody breaking in his office and ticket sales being stolen. FOH with your celebrity worship. He got elevated remember? To his white Zaddy losing school. That dude was nothing but an opportunist.

[@dfrnt_hues]

@@bbginc694 definitely sketchy. I remember the vid of him saying he wants it to be TC. But still these folks were KILLIN Deion like he’s Ed Orgeron humping everyone breathing

[@derrickghostware]

This is why successful black people often times isolate from other blacks and HBCUs ...U be damn if u do and damn if u don't...It's always something...the complaining and getting called out of your name and the Hating because you want 2 better yourself...We as blacks have got 2 stop this..we are our own worst enemy...💯

[@PickJ]

💯

[@kjee09]

I understand ER but you don't go blasting your employer on social media... He was unprofessional and handled it immaturely so it comes as no surprise that they decided not keep him. Also, I'm not defending BC but it was just mentioned that they had gone through a hurricane several months back and that was the reason why his office wasn't clean. He should have given them time. He wasn't officially hired, didn't sign a contract yet. Im pretty sure if he brought it to them directly, it would have been done. They were giving him an opportunity with no experience as a head coach. All I'm saying is he should have handled the situation differently.

[@thedarnelltheory]

No. Like they said. This is a job. They were 2-9 the past 2 season. They needed a coach.

[@whispers7182]

This conversation is so sad and one sided. Basically nobody should talk about how bad HBCUs are orr we’ll get blackballed. So if you don’t go to HBCU then I guess we’re sellout smh.

[@heroesandkingz9271]

As a Morehouse Man 95, this conversation DISAPPOINTS ME. I just sent my two kids, one to Oregon and my daughter to Arizona State because of the mindset. Ed Reed was unprofessional, but he did not lie. For years I was disconnected from the institution because of my experiences. It took my travels around the world in my Morehouse apparel and foreigners acknowledging the Brand. I returned, donated money, open my house to friends who Son's were accepted to The House and those of us who still live in Atlanta are connected. HBCU are in there own bubble and any issue like a pin busts the bubble. Ed Reed and Coached Primed sadly, made public what has gone on in Some schools. I am a MBA and Six Sigma Lean Green belt....I observe process, quality and actual results....a few former NFL players who did not go to HBCUS want and opportunity to coach & mentor....OKAY.

[@jasonjohnson3357]

Ed Reed is talking about one school. BCU, which everyone acknowledged has issues. That's not ALL HBCUs

[@thespadestable]

@Heros and Kingz - Brah, Morehouse and Spelman are in the hood, nested in the same blackhole shared with Clark Atlanta, but has its own set of issues, both within house, and those that have been made to the public. Sorry, but it's people like yourself who publicly put on display the downfall of HBCUs. I'm a graduate of Delaware State College 1987, and I bear witness to when Blacks became vocal on how HBCUs were an inferior education as opposed to Ivy League and in general "White" schools. The Black talent pool began to drain during the 70's via integration and felt Civil Rights accomplishments, and the effects just manifested after that, to what we see now. You claimed MBA and Six Sigma Lean Green are the very ilks of the 50's and 60's who set the downward slide in the late 60's and into the 70's.

[@jonezin2662]

Listen to the students!! They are validating that there are some SERIOUS problems at BCU. Ed just put a spotlight on the issues. Deion did the same about JSU on 60 minutes.

[@alansjf33]

This guy calling Dion a clown is ridiculous. He did more for Jackson state football than anyone in the past 20 years.

[@lexis4490]

Which helped the school overall.

[@alansjf33]

@@lexis4490 exactly

[@barak-rocky-giles2081]

13:30 Idk about that. I've seen more people succeed (in sports and in life) from listening to Deion than I have from anyone on this show. Dude hardly ever takes an L, and always figures out how to land in an even better situation than the last. And that's without mentioning that we wouldn't even be talking about these issues with HBCUs (at the moment) without Deion. Maybe we should try listening to his advice. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@terrykilpatrick5799]

Preach bruh!!!

[@bOmBAsTiK]

Dude on the bottom right is a supreme hater.

[@1muddylifestyle]

This is why I don't listen to random folks talk. Deion and Ed are PROVEN, they shouldn't be exposed or down talked for shining the light on problems. Everybody always wanna complain until it's time to do the work!

[@deerocker6987]

Coach Prime never called out JSU. When he saw a problem, he tried to fix it.

[@thespadestable]

@Dee Rocker - Deion did not fix anything. Deion used the perils of Jackson St. to leapfrog to a bigger school program. He did a lot of talking, but he also knows Blacks love hype more than they do substance, so he used the power of the internet to play a shell game at the expense of Jackson St., the students/football team, and the City of Jackson, MS.

[@Smack_Smizzle]

I respect all opinions but for a man on this panel to call Ed and Deion clowns, I will never visit this platform again.

[@StevenBikoS]

Ed Reed may not be the most professional however his presence on campus had more positive impact in a smaller period of time

[@lamarhicks437]

You see Roland Martin's trying to find out about the issues they're trying to avoid the issues and just talk about

[@RollinwitBen]

Coach Prime brought the spot light

[@charlesparker1837]

The panel has me confused. I haven't met an educator or administrator with a PhD who didn't have an ego. Here we are once again talking about the delivery of a message rather than the message. It is like some of the panelists are saying to Deion Sanders and Ed Reed to just "Shut up and play" That they are not capable of having an opinion on issues. The money issue has always been there. There are athletes who are connected to prominent people who have the means to generate funds for our schools that our schools don't have the relationships to "crack the code". Where as Under Armour might have said no to JSU, with Deion they said yes. We can all get there together. Even an imperfect process can yield a perfect product. We have to embrace the We concept. As an HBCU graduate, A&T, "Aggie Pride", my University had problems and issues as well as significant achievements. When I was there everyone knew they played an important part of making A&T better. This is an opportunity for all of us to push HBCUs up to a better level so that HBCUs can continue to produce leaders in all fields. Just my opinion.

[@antoniojohnson5825]

Would appreciate a real conversation on this issue. This is very one sided. No need to even have 4 people, one person could've done that.

[@blacknetsmed]

Roland Martin Interviews with Interim President of Bethune Cookman, student athletes of Bethune Cookman, Student Leadership at Bethune Cookman all gave a more well rounded picture.

[@Kevinschart]

@@blacknetsmed Roland gave softball questions to Ed and didn't hold Ed accountable for his firing. Roland wanted to spend the entire conversation on what's wrong with Bethune. He was absolutely not well rounded.

[@caluke85]

I was offended when the panelist stated that in order to be a better person, an African American must go to a HBCU. In 1981 I was accepted at an HBCU and wanted to attend. However I was unable to attend the HBCU because of the lack of adequate financial aid. Based on the panelist's aforementioned statement, I would have been better off not going to college at all. I went to a national small liberal arts PWI and thrived during my four years there. I would not have had the successes in my life (personal and professional) had I not gone to the PWI that was able to meet my family's financial need. We as African Americans need to stop causing divisions between those of us who went to PWIs and HBCUs. My wife is a graduate of an HBCU and she is rightfully proud of that accomplishment. We also cheerfully send annual donations to our respective alma maters. We believe in helping our young people whether they attend an HBCU or a PWI. The issue is getting our young people educated. Also, contrary to popular belief, HBCUs are not for all African American. In addition, even if the 106 HBCUs had strong operations and leadership, they do not possess the infrastructure needed to educate the over one million African American college students. Our students should not be made to feel less African American if they choose not to attend an HBCU for whatever the reason. Students need to go wherever they believe is best for them and their family situation. Since I did not attend an HBCU, I wonder if the panelists object to a portion of my hard-earned money going to an HBCU and the United Negro College Fund on an annual basis?

[@PickJ]

💯

[@mr.j.2822]

THANKS MR. REED FOR EXPOSING BSU.

[@annettesmith156]

Was BCU ready for students living in Mold and Mildew. Your kids are not living in mold and mildew.

[@bpoydras9]

So the black athlete doesn’t matter at HBCU’s just the money they generate to keep the school open. Also y’all said if you wanna be a better athlete go to the SEC, BIG 10, and others but isn’t that the issue as well black people having the black athlete not choosing HBCU’s and going to PWI’s. It’s funny how we as black people want to come together but then when we hold our universities accountable and showing them if there’s a new way of making money instead of stealing it from the kids we got a problem with it and say don’t talk about what you don’t know but y’all literally don’t even look at the athletes are HBCUs as real students on this panel

[@lamontellis8430]

This conversation is too bias. Callin Ed Reed and Deion “clowns” is over the top. Prime brought more to Jackson state than anybody in the last 30yrs. Black man calling another black man a clown but we should listen to you? Nah thumbs down

[@tnastytfv25]

So from what they said you can't talk bad about hbcu, if you want to play sports professionally don't go to a hbcu, but if you want to be a better human being go to one...niggas missed the whole mark & there is a reason why the students protesting at bcu smh

[@Dehow78]

I went to an HBCU I’m Wildcat for life I enjoyed Cook-men and it’s hard for me to look at this situation because I know a of what is being said about the school is true I experience a lot of this but when you try to bring this up it’s we not perfect or we a private school or a lot of other excuses when there’s a problem but you bring it up you going against the people

[@kevinmccreary7439]

Bougie black people talking about Ed Reed. But no one is talking about the conditions of the program.

[@liferealgood]

Exactly!! It almost comes off like HBCUs are perfect in this conversation.

[@willielittle9301]

I am an HBCU product and there are bourgeois corruption that happens at certain HBCUs...You can kill the messenger...but...damn...don't kill the message...BCU...step up your game...put and keep the students...FIRST...

[@RollinwitBen]

Why is everyone Mad at Coach Prime

[@erickmack4131]

You know why?

[@noblejones11]

I am so confused. They are all hating on Coach Prime and didn’t he stay at JSU for 3 years, establish some sort of standard, put his own money into the school and program. This was nothing but a hate conversation.

[@jap4391]

For this show to be ran by 2 journalist, this was a piss poor job of telling the whole story. This was just a bash Ed Reed segment! 😢 Shame on the brothers!

[@halliewilliams7194]

You're dead right!

[@monden636]

Might want to revisit the title of the video.

[@TerraRyzinglives]

What about the interviews with the school president, the student president, homecoming court, alumni, Roland wanting to visit the campus. Thats the story. I get you don't rock with Prime and Ed,but what about Eddie George?

[@derrickjones5041]

Hold up ... I think everybody made valid points on the bigger issues at HBCU's.. But the whole Panel came off as smug .. The one dude called Deion a clown, is we educating one another or Judging folk because they go about things a different way. Deion came to build a football program not save the university, he came to put a spotlight on HBCU athletics and he did that!!!.. The athletic department is the life blood of most universities I'm sure Jackson st as a whole benefited from what that Man did.. Yea I wish he would have stayed for at least one graduating class but he didn't that still doesn't diminish what he did do.. This panel doesn't like the approach ok well what group of people in yall area of expertise are yall galvanizing to effect change!! 🤔

[@beeroll499]

Don’t nobody give a dam about athletes at HBCU’s. They are at the bottom of the social ladder and climate of HBCU’s. Wow 😯 he really meant that. It’s disappointing to hear that and to witness, someone feel that way about HBCU athletes.

[@mikeb6150]

There’s alot of hate on this channel. JS wasn’t shit before Prime got there.

[@Pop-lr6yb]

JSU has been graduating black folks for years when pwis wouldn't look at your or my black azz 58 years ago.

[@ronjea]

Exactly. I went to a HBCU (FAMU) and I didn’t know wtf a jackson state was until Deion got there and Deion turnt that school up. It just shows how unappreciative people can be and I’m happy he left.

[@carmelpleaser]

HBCU's graduates do not even give to their own school but you blaming Dion. Yall werent saying all this before Dion came but didn't Dion get the facilities fixed and paid for? So if Dion doesn't understand the problems. Then why did it tske Dion to get the kids taken care of? like wtf. Yet yall doing all this talking. Yall didnt have a voice till Dion.

[@RollinwitBen]

When did coach prime attack HBCU

[@unarepublic]

HE DIDN'T!! Thank you for the question!

[@PickJ]

I had this same question!

[@stanleygreen9073]

Michael Smith the only one on that panel with some sense. The other 3 dont give a damn about the students. They more worried about they're universities name being sullied then hold the higher up accountable and supporting the students.

[@robertmckinnon1231]

Did not Deion stay 3 years? I'm confused. In addition, what are we going to do differently?

[@ksolo614]

I think the problem is that people use HBCU's is that people use them as a stepping stone. Rather than staying and using his influence to build up Jackson State to white institutions standards.

[@Method2DaMadness]

Bottom line. Bethune-Cookman does not want to do right by the students. Period. It's disgraceful!!! You can't even keep the campus clean. That's basic. Why should we donate, when you can't maintain what you have!!!! This panel was a useless conversation.

[@DonBrownII]

Ed Reed is passionate, and I don’t think we can fully blame him for that when we praise OTHERS for the same passion. Yes he was wrong for his comments but it could have been a opportunity to learn and to come closer rather than separate in anger and discontent. 2:20

[@Kevinschart]

Grown men need to control their "passion". He is not ready for a head coaching job. Everytime he opens his mouth he proves it.

[@DonBrownII]

@@Kevinschart tell that to Herm Edwards, Dennis Green, Deion Sanders, Jim Mora, ALL great coaches who were animated, passionate and opinionated, who have sound bytes all over the internet of things they have said. They were allowed to be passionate and not considered unprofessional. Give Ed Reed that same luxury.

[@michaelsmith-ws2mb]

Those guys didn’t call their bosses mfers before they got the job either. Reed is a powder keg and bcu did the right thing by letting him go. He’s not ready to lead young men

[@trapmuzik6708]

@Donald Brown stop it brro u can't talk about professional ppl like that if u looking for a job

[@Kevinschart]

@@DonBrownII I'm telling YOU. Grown men need to be in control of their emotions. Especially in public. Ed lacks the ability to comport himself in the face of adversity. How is he going to teach young men to do so? Stop making excuses, you sound like a child when you do so. All those guys you mentioned are now memes because they looked nuts when they lost their cool. "you play to win the game", "they are what we thought they were", I have no idea why you put Deion in with this bunch, "Playoffs!?" When you try to justify bad behavior by saying someone else got away with bad behavior you make yourself look silly. All three of those coaches were fired and never won championships.

[@beeroll499]

Im not understanding the Deion hate. Seems like Feelings we’re hurt on both sides. This panel is definitely not listening to the students or Roland Martin experiences.

[@GodBody-tk9cu]

I know somebody gonna be hurt by this but what Ed Reed pointed out was exactly why I decided not to go to an HBCU. The stereotypes is real…most campuses of HBCUs are in the hood and in just generally bad conditions, especially the dorms. I really wanted to go to FAMU when I was considering colleges in the early 2000s but couldn’t do it after seeing the overall conditions and talking to some of the students. I’ve been on the campus of 7 different HBCUs and they all were of similar conditions. Maybe things have changed since I visited those colleges so many years ago but it was shame seeing Bethune still like that, especially when they charge so much for tuition.

[@ronaldwilkinsknowledge3748]

And exactly why I'm not sending my on son to a Hbcu.

[@terrykilpatrick5799]

Misallocation of funds and poor management. The same people spewing all that hate on Ed Reed and Coach Prime are sitting around talking about what those two Gentlemen did. I'll take doers everyday and twice on Sunday over talkers.

[@Enduce40]

Yea... 👎🏿 no. Cause I was at FAMU in the early 2000s and what you're saying is factually incorrect. I don't know what students you talked to and what you saw. But my campus has always been a higher standard. Don't get on public platforms spitting rhetoric that is false. I can tell you countless number of HBCU students that came to our campus and inside of dorms as well as other facilities and stated "wow this is nice, I need to transfer". Plus I've visited at least 30 of the HBCUs and the air is thin only allowing a few at the top and we are in rare air.

[@duecejj]

These hbcu defenders making me sick. I attended an hbcu and we can do better but when someone ask for better and demand better you immediately go to the struggle.

[@DBen0217]

Man take that Morehouse cap off. Bad representation. He the goofiest on the panel. Deion hater. Deion don’t run his life off your expectation. If he wants to move on so be it. Why he got to be ball and chained to JSU. Another guy talking with “feeling” than his “mind”

[@jonzboy01]

It's crap like this that gets under my skin about my people.. Ed Reed went about it the wrong way .. Did he really? We have become so educated and uppity that we forget or forgot how we talk to one another when we get pissed off and passionate about something. Ed Reed doesn't need a Job he doesn't need or have to do anything just sit back and enjoy the fruits of his dedicated years of labor playing at the highest of highest levels. He's a retired Super Bowl Hall of famer of the NFL, Respect on his name and legacy is needed. His concern now is the kids that attend this particular HCBU school and most likely hits home more to him personally because his own nephew or nieces attend the school and a few of those kids came there to play for him, So his outrage was warranted in my opinion. I also watched the Roland interview I listened to the kids say the President was a liar and what they have to go thru on a daily basis just to practice and I'll take there word over anybody. We have all been to places where they let you view what they want you to see but don't open that door that's locked. Ed got to see what was behind the locked door and exposed it and ya'll bougie folk are now mad sorry upset with it. Funding Funding or the lack of when are we as a people gonna stop looking for handouts from this government why is it that we can't or haven't gotten ourstuff together yet ? So I'm guessing until we get what we think we deserve from the government we'll just let our kids suffer and live in conditions that's inhabitable don't put a spotlight on it and be happy, the Vice President of this nation is from a HBCU we can ascend to the highest level of office but can't figure out how to finance our schools? We as a people need to do better and stop condemning those that speak out on the truth of what's actually happening in our communities and schools.

[@ebrown9345]

Trying to figure out how Ed Reed turned down JSU when T.C was the front runner and was requested by Prime in the Dec.4th episode on Well Of Media????

[@GB81369]

nine times out of ten Deion talked to Ed Reed to see if he wanted him to give recommendation. Ed being Ed took it as Deion gave him his job. I love heart but he jumps the gun a lot

[@sherimosley3095]

How can you dispute the benefit prime brought to the jsu campus and the athletic program… the money… the donations … the tv time!! HOW CAN YOU BE AGAINST THIS RESULT!!! JSU RECEIVED NATIONAL attention… This is a good thing!!

[@darrylchristian5541]

The solution is that we as individuals need to dominate our own area of expertise. How many of us are millionaires or billionaires. we are blaming Football Coaches .we are cheerleaders of them when we need to excel in our field of expertise. We own less than 1% of the wealth of American we got to stop looking for a savior and as ourselves what is in our own hand . No one is going to save us .

[@derrickjones5041]

Facts!!! That first sentence sums up this whole conversation!!

[@polo48]

But they take advice from everyone else lol

[@DonBrownII]

Calling Deion a quitter is a little over the top. 13:19 this dude is a little extra and butt-hurt and needs to shut up. He didn’t provide much value to this segment. YES, Deion was wrong for that statement. But let’s keep it in bounds. Deion wasn’t a quitter. He took a new job just like you and yo momma did y’all whole lives.

[@HoneyBee4163]

Both of my parents went to HBCU'S. My mother has a bachelors from Paul Quinn College, the oldest HBCU is now closed. Why? It's not for a lack of alumni giving back. Simply put...mismanagement....embezzlement etc. Money was not invested from municipalities because they did not see the value to their city. They only saw prime properties in a prime location for the picking. If you do not understand the economic source fb programs bring to a college and a city, then shame on you. You are part of the problem. Very few HBCU'S can generate funds for operation based solely on academics less you are Morehouse or Spellman.