Does Jaylen Brown outperforming Jayson Tatum matter to the Boston Celtics? | Brother From Another

Michael Holley, Vinnie Goodwill, and Natalie Esquire debate whether or not Jaylen Brown really is better than Jayson Tatum, and discuss the value of winning the NBA Finals MVP award. #NBCSports #NBA #BostonCeltics #DallasMavericks
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[@drewn5271]

As a Celtics fan, I'm much more comfortable watching jaylen Brown take a shot then Jayson Tatum because he usually makes it and Tatum usually misses it. But Jayson Tatum is almost becoming the new rajon rondo, he makes everything work... He breaks down the defense and is an assist machine

[@josepruna5222]

My feelings exactly Drew!

[@kingcollins3965]

​@josepruna5222 you got alot of time on your hands. You should get a job! 😂😂😂

[@markydan1232]

It literally only matters to media and fans. Those brothers only care about rings and getting paid.

[@xxxxbigrich5752]

Definitely 💯

[@therealdarrell282]

@@xxxxbigrich5752I agree. Celtics win the chip, nobody can say the Jays are not good enough to win a chip together.

[@josepruna5222]

Lol 😂 😆, you got a point there Markydan!

[@iguesss]

You didnt watch the Indiana series if you think Tatum was the MVP

[@josepruna5222]

Tell me about it!, who were the judges on that !?

[@MuscularMario2300]

The Media is trying to turn JB and JT into Kobe vs Shaq part 2.

[@JDigg99]

"Are we to blame?" ..um hell yes, the media is to blame.

[@truthbearer7891]

Natalie sounds ridiculous trying to make everything about her fandom of Steph Curry and making a ridiculous comparison of the gap between Tatum and Brown being like Curry ha Iguodala. Or saying Finals MVP wasn’t a big deal until Curry when everyone knows that 6 Finals MVPs was used as gold standard of saying why Jordan was GOAT over someone like Kareem who has same amount of titles. Also that tired argument about coverage in direction of Tatum is just used to excuse him being historically inefficient in Finals

[@natfluential]

You sound ridiculous like you don’t listen. I used an analogy. I was entirely focused on Tatum and Brown. Also multiple Celtics fans have used the same analogy.

[@King_Mac80]

In the ECF Jaylen Brown averaged 30ppg on 51% shooting from the field and 37% shooting from 3. Tatum averaged 30ppg on 46% from the field and 30% from 3. Meanwhile Jaylen Brown absolutely played WAY better defense in that series.

[@johnbradley8780]

👀

[@logicoveremotion3321]

Exactly 😂 relax ITS OKAY 😂

[@iguesss]

Ikr, how she gonna say he didnt deserve the award.. tryna go after the voters smh

[@jamargraham6707]

Tatum avg in ecf was 30 10 and 5 put some respect on his name.

[@King_Mac80]

@jamargraham6707 yeah on lesser efficiency than Jaylen Brown

[@dnice4145]

This woman seems to view everything through the prism of Warriors fandom.

[@truthbearer7891]

It’s almost unwatchable because of it

[@natfluential]

There are literally multiple media members and Celtics fans who have said the same exact thing. But sure.

[@natfluential]

@@truthbearer7891so don’t watch

[@natfluential]

Are you listening to how questions are asked to me? It was framed as “you’re a warriors fan” b/c of the past FMVP debates and yet y’all are mad the Warriors came up. Pls stop using BS. Y’all are just mad b/c you don’t like me or don’t like women. Which is fine. That’s your business. But stop pretending like I just made the convo about the Warriors. I did not. Others referenced the Warriors. And the convo wasn’t about them. It started about the Js and organically evolved into something else. So stop making it about me when the men also brought up the Warriors too. Y’all are insufferable.

[@dnice4145]

@@natfluential nah, I have nothing against you being a woman, and I generally like your commentary. But that Warriors fan in you takes the lead sometimes imo, lol. No offense.

[@sherlyb4705]

Winning a championship matters most to both players.

[@CidiMayaka]

Yes but they are not superstars, luka can't afford to go 6/22

[@CidiMayaka]

JRue was the mvp in game 2, he can be arguably bonston's best player

[@therealdarrell282]

@@CidiMayakaGo blame Mark Cuban for his roster construction of the Mavs. Going into the Finals, a large number of fans were picking Dallas to win the chip because of KI and Luka.

[@josepruna5222]

JT doesn't have natural fluidity whereas JB does!😅

[@MichaelMurphy-kj3xf]

Vin should see the similarities between this Celts squad and the 2004 champs. Tough defense at all spots on the floor, and on any given night your leading scorer could be JT, JB, Jrue, DWhite, or even Porzingis or Big Al. Kinda like Rip, Rasheed, Prince and Billups.

[@masewindu]

She showing her fan hat. Pepridge farms remembers...GS fans screaming that curry is the goat. So what Stephs "demerit" came from was not getting a finals mvp over kd, despite his "goat" status. So instead of shading andre, hate on kd for going to gs. Smh

[@blackezi3]

Black Women and arguing on screen destroying the conversation, it never fails

[@orlanderjohnson2026]

She sound foolish. Finals MVP has always been a thing

[@andrewgraham6344]

Good debate

[@josepruna5222]

I played Ball all my life and I know who's the shit and who's not. Jalen Brown is the main man on the Celtics!

[@plainsimple244]

Tatum vs. Brown: It's the classic game of 'light skinned' vs 'dark skinned' stereotype against who?...You see how stupid this is?...Guys on the same team cannot even enjoy one another winning as a unit because of this?... Now the Tatum vs. Brown issue is even occurring because the guy the entertainment industry has promoted via corporations is Tatum...the problem is Tatum is NOT the best performer at the highest level in The Finals...so yet again, corporations invested in the wrong guy looking at 'the look' and perception of public appeal (white male comfort/appeal) instead of actual work-related production.... So the problem isn't with Tatum or Brown UNLESS Tatum actually believes this crap and tries to do his 'own thing' worrying about his own stats and production instead of just helping his team win -- this is the ONLY WAY the Celtics can lose and feed into that foolishness and it will start/end with Tatum's insecurities -- thus the tattoos and the psychological interviews because Tatum said it, he just wants to have fun and he was 'nervous'. See? So right there Tatum has spoken to a casual mentality and nervousness, which mean he's not MENTALLY as focused on winning but focused on FUN and running away from the pressure to win. Brown: I don't think Brown is doing anything else but trying to win while improving on himself and proving critics wrong, that's it.

[@King_Mac80]

People keep trying to use the defensive coverage argument for Tatum, the Mavs are playing zone and they collapse on BOTH Jaylen Brown and Tatum equally when they have the ball. Also there's no damn credible argument for Tatum getting ECF MVP over Jaylen Brown.

[@johnbradley8780]

👏 Someone knows what he is talking about, Tatum fans are delusional and blind when it comes to looking at the games it bother them because Brown has become a super star and alpha.

[@King_Mac80]

@@johnbradley8780 yup as a Celtics watching these Tatum stans try to clown Brown or blame him for every post lost has been ridiculous

[@johnbradley8780]

@Lord_Clarke Yep, you noticed the bias towards Brown. Why can't they say he a super star, a top 10? The media don't want to acknowledge that tatum has been exposed he doesn't have a reliable go-to move or In between Game, what makes it so bad Tatum can have 1 good game and win final mvp.

[@iguesss]

JB is the better 2 way player and never gets to take 25 shots a game even tho he is more efficient

[@josepruna5222]

People are lying about Tatum because he's pretty boy but for real for real man no way better than Jayden Brown and everybody knows it, stop playing!!!

[@josepruna5222]

I agree with you sister!

[@dabu8701]

Im sorry, how did this become a GSW and Steph curry problem?? Get outta here Didn’t finals MVP matter with Jordan? That’s part of his GOAT claim. 6 finals, 6 💍 6 finals MVP. Tim Duncan is 5-1 in finals , he doesn’t have 5finals mvp and he’s always overlooked I don’t get why people so bothered by JB and JT . When Murray hits clutch shots no one looks to diminish jokic. For years people have been asking when AD gonna take over and be the guy on lakers When 76ers get eliminated it’s always Harden and Simmons didn’t help embiid. Yet when Celtics duo perform it’s a problem 🤷‍♂️

[@natfluential]

Well it wasn’t that. If you listened to the convo a question was asked about FMVP, and it went there organically. Y’all just mad in these comments to be mad.

[@CidiMayaka]

Boston is going to win , nobody is going to care , they are the better team

[@steveee_]

how is this a comvo

[@logicoveremotion3321]

😂 Jaylen is the better player on defense and offense when the pressure is on AND ITS OKAY 😂 now relax

[@seanisabel]

JT still leads the team in points, rebounds and assists in these playoffs. He also leads the NBA these playoffs in +/-.

[@josepruna5222]

Jaylen Brown is the best Celtic, Jayson Tatum is suspect; he misses so many shots he should make when is going to the hole all clumsy. He's not all that. Jaylen Brown is! 😊😢😂

[@josepruna5222]

Trying to disc Kyrie Irving same way they did to James harden when he was here in Philly, SMH

[@josepruna5222]

Stop lying to yourself and realize reality that Jaylen Brown is and has a way better game than Tatum, stop playing!😅🎉😢😂

[@TCrimson05t]

My goodness every media member keeps asking this question. Banners. That's the only thing. Trophies.

[@LanceMcClaren]

JB been playing better then dawg in the playoffs. Why is this even a conversation. Yall just hate when you pick a guy and you’re wrong.

[@xxxxbigrich5752]

Kawhi was the MVP In 2013 and 2014 but since the lost to the heat he didn’t get it. Ask Lebron the look on his face when Kawhi checked in says it all. Duncan was on his last legs!!

[@natfluential]

Danny Green was actually the front runner in 2013 but ok

[@josepruna5222]

Bro about the money and rings I wouldn't even be on here if I weren't just someone appreciating the sport because we know we don't have that money so why do you even bothering if you don't appreciate the sport?😢😅

[@dnice4145]

The goal is to win.

[@garycollier6950]

Kobe Bryant lovers states that league MVPs and finals MVPs means nothing.Are they smart or stupid?

[@logicoveremotion3321]

Okay well WE CARE NOW so deal with it ... Step curry aint performed when under pressure SIMPLE ... he was UP 3-1 best team and LOST... thats all the context you need. If you guard the best player and bring down their points it as good as scoring 😂

[@rowanmurray7523]

YOU ARE MISSING THIS POINT ?? THEY ARE STRIVING TO WIN A LONG-TIME & A LONG-EARNED CHAMPIONSHIP : THIS IS THE BOTTOM-LINE PERIOD ! EVERYTHING-ELSE IS YOU T R Y-I N G TO MAKE A DOLLAR

[@juliusrickles]

Does she not understand most valuable player?

[@geno6464]

Dumars and Thomas great comparison

[@jaybeeaustria9706]

JT has double doubles in both games so far.

[@craigalaneleazer4473]

2024 Finals comparison (so far- 2 gm) JB = 21.5/5/4.5 JT = 17/10/8 *near trpl dbl PPG/Reb/Asst

[@macattack8658]

Also gotta add in 3 stls and 1.5 blocks a game for jb too. His defense has been elite the past 2 rounds.

[@mrcuret]

JB is also averaging 3 spg & 1.5 bpg while shooting 56% from the field. Tatum is shooting 31% FG.

[@aieshadaniels6104]

Hello blind people if is Jrue One night JB another DW another yet JT consistently avg. 10 rebounds and 5 to 10 assist clearly JT is the MVP making everyone better! ​​I thank GOD JT not taking the bate and just looking to score! Because I do not see anyone else on the team getting triple team and making everyone else better while playing defense! They prefer to both do what it takes to WIN a Championship!!!!

[@truth3412]

This conversation has always been a low basketball iq conversation. Anyone who says brown is better, ive always said well why dont other teams defend him like they do tatum. 😅

[@macattack8658]

Then I rebuttal with when Tatum been out just him & not other rotation pieces why jb has a 9-6 record avg 29 ppg, 7 rebs, 4 ast(in context he 16-16 overall when Tatum doesn't play avg 28,7,3). Team then even try to double jb but can't because their plays styles are so different jb gets a lot of cross matches cause he plays with pace and he can work off ball. Big example of this is the kings game this yr he was 4th in touches but lead the team in scoring. Also was one of the Celtics highest scoring games too