Why Didn't Islam Abolish Slavery? | Q&A Series | Imam Tom Facchine

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[@BloggingTheology]

A superb exposition of the real issues by Imam Tom!

[@fidelcatsro6948]

🐱👍🏿

[@bauan98]

I think he is right but Dr Thomas Cleary’s lecture on “slavery in Islam”. Dr Cleary makes a distinction between cattle slavery (as practiced in the west) and Domestic slavery (as was practiced by Islam) and he is right that domestic slavery was a way to reintegrate victims of war into society. However what Imam Tom doesn’t mention is that the Quran and the Hadith make it crystal clear that one of the best ways to get close to Allah, is to free slaves. And The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah says, 'I will be against three persons on the Day of Resurrection: -1. One who makes a covenant in My Name, but he proves treacherous. -2. One who sells a free person (as a slave) and eats the price, -3. And one who employs a laborer and gets the full work done by him but does not pay him his wages.' " And don’t think slavery is abolished now… now there’s economic slavery. Millions of undeveloped countries work like slaves to sustain the economies of the developed nations. It’s slavery in disguise.

[@nothingnobody9946]

@@bauan98 yes Kafala is basically slavery. You have no way to escape suffering or leave the country when your employer controls your visa. Literally everyone but places like UAE consider it akin to slavery.

[@SonoftheFortunate]

@@nothingnobody9946 It is a result of foreign ideology from primarily the West. The teachings of Islam would solve all of these issues, only if the Muslims unite under Tawheed and put aside any Bid’aah and return to the Sunnah of the Prophet ﷺ.

[@1goal1]

Agreed. This should be widely spread.

[@ameenadeyemi1987]

Your channel is so underrated. Your subscribers should be wayyyy more

[@hassankassim8078]

Indeed

[@animatedislamichistory]

Superb explanation starting by separating islam from the concept of slavery as it is understood in the west. Great distinction to make.

[@Ashleii]

Absolutely love these bite size golden nuggets. Beautifully and concisely explained More of these please as they are often the questions non Muslims ask us too.

[@werak.8595]

Look at how refugees integrated in Poland. I know its not exactly how Islam teaches but its similar. People, mostly women and children came and were taken into homes of Polish people. They were given a lot, for Free. But resentment in the nation didnt rose, cause they wanted to work and assimilate . But it was possible cause we live in 22st century and women have a lot of oportunities to work, Poland is a really safe country and children came be taken care of. But what in different Times? Only Islamic way of dealing with this issue would bring similar results. And religion is ment for all times,not only ours, isn't it? I really appreciate Islamic rulings,even though Im not a Muslim.

[@ghofranesalhi7386]

Thank you for this wonderful way of explaining this issue. The wisdom of islamic law continues to surprise us. Indeed Allah knows best.

[@servanttoall4037]

May Allah Almighty increase your knowledge and preserve you in the both worlds Aameen.

[@talksense6648]

Ma sha Allah, treat to watch Imam Tom ❤️🌻

[@redman6790]

The more I learn about the Shari’a the more I love its divine wisdom and justice. Subhanallah I just want to learn as much of it and apply it to today’s social issues, wallahi its so profound.

[@excelsior31107]

Deluded

[@ambivalentaxe]

@@excelsior31107 your delusional

[@kofiboat779]

Only ignorant people will take his word for it. Arab slavery in Africa was the evilest. Google it

[@majorlobster3443]

@@excelsior31107 Typical islamophobe. Emotional calling instead of refuting points.

[@Expatnema]

May Allah preserve you, Sheikh. JazakAllah for your insights.

[@fidelcatsro6948]

ameen

[@shahnazmalik2399]

Alhamdulillah for Islam is perfect JazakALLAH Khairan Katheera for excellent analysis of the beautiful verses of Noble Quran may ALLAH protect and bless us all AAmeen YARABB

[@daliafarah8540]

Thank you for addressing this topic. It’s not typically easy for us to explain the issue of الرق. Very informative Imam Tom. Jazak Allah Khair.

[@Diamondraw4Real]

You can search Fadel Solaiman on YT as well.

[@ef2883]

Awesome, we need more of these videos on misconceptions of Islam 👍❤

[@irened8457]

JazakAllah for your level headed explanation. Its humbling. May Allah guide us

[@AminulIslam-nv4dl]

Mashallah dear Imam. May Allah reward you and increase your knowledge more to help the Ummah.

[@nabamuni9054]

Lie ,lie ,lie !you are a cursed towards humanity imam!

[@fidelcatsro6948]

May Allah make it easy for all suffering from the wars

[@jangofett2666]

New knowledge for me. Thank you.

[@fidelcatsro6948]

🐱👍🏿

[@maryanne7161]

@@fidelcatsro6948 Lol. Nice name

[@amalan7119]

I just subscribed. The explanation is very clear and very helpful.

[@ES-se2ck]

Very similar explanation for how traditional Judaism views “slavery”. Thanks for the explanation.

[@StudentOfKnowldge]

Added to my playlist 💯

[@jesminaktar4816]

Wow beautifully explained….. masah Allah

[@Al-himathy]

One can make a temporal argument. Ownership/bondmenship existed in history for vast passages of times; centuries! Even today there is slavery, but does man think he will not return to that state? Who’s to say? - what will be the state of non-combatants after war or during war, or slaves? Lawlessness. But you’re re-conceptualization and contextualixarion is superb and correct and honest to the tradition.

[@ef2883]

Slavery still exists... When someone works for the world's richest man (Bezos) at minimum wage which allows him to barely house and feed himself, how is that any different the Pharaoh's enslavement? They fed and clothed their slaves too...

[@thairinkhudr4259]

If somebody ever asks me this question, I'm going to send the link for this video to them.

[@mohammadabdullah556]

SubhanAllah! Sheikh, you explain things that seem complicated so well. May Allah Bless you!

[@naveedaali2378]

SubhanAllah JazakAllah fi ahsanul jeza, perfectly articulated, perfect reasoning, SubhanAllah the Shariah is Allah's Law. It has to be perfect, SubhanAllah.

[@handhikaramadhan]

Beautifully expained ya sheikh

[@aneesashafi8360]

Gold!💯

[@aminaayad4928]

Jazaka Allah khayran 🤲

[@zipzap6783]

This guy didn't even talk about how Islam allows sex with war captives.

[@delatorrecilla]

Superb explanation by imam Tom! Amazing

[@AbdulKareemAbdulRahman]

omg so clear. jzkllh

[@rubenk1414]

Very well explained Sheik jazzak Allah

[@supporterofeastturkestanin2871]

Quote from a book: European women who live in the East and often complain of Arab servants would be surprised to hear of the devoted lifetimes given by these people (i.e. Arab slaves) to their native masters. They enter a household and become part of it, and think of no private life beyond; and if they happen to be bad at things like valeting or waiting, this is taken as a dispensation of Providence, is borne as one bears the unfortunate deficiencies of a son or daughter, and does not interfere with the natural kindliness of the relationship. I have never heard an Arab speak roughly to his servant, even under severe trials of patience. The Queen of Iraq, when I was there, had a particularly bad cook, so much so that King Faisal offered to send her his own excellent one instead; but the queen, a gentle and charming woman, was attached to the cook's wife and used to go with her to the cinema now and then, and refused the exchange. In the Hadhramaut, a small slave or servant is given to every infant member of any well-to-do family, and they grow up devotedly together. Taken from 'The Southern Gates of Arabia: A Journey in the Hadhramawt', Ch 3.

[@zak992]

Best explanation of the islamic view on slavery, well done Tom, now I understand why our prophet ( pbuh ) did not ban it, As cruel as slavery was to have totally banned it would have lead to more problems, Islam`s approach of reforming slavery was the pragmatic choice so that it did not end up being like slavery as practiced by the Europeans in the Americas, indeed Allah is All Wise

[@pellesvansl]

you must change your condition then Allah helps you

[@haatpraat2993]

This is the most sickening, disgusting comment I have ever read on KZbin. Slavery is a CRIME against humanity itself. Have you ever read about how moslems moslems enslaved millions of black Africans - much more than the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade? The moslem slave trade lasted over 1,500 years in which estimates state almost 100 MILLION lives were destroyed. Have you read about how moselsm would capture innocent, free people in central Africa, march them chained up to the east African coast, then CASTRATE the males before loading them on to sinking dhow ships to be sold off in the Gulf and wider Indian Ocean in their millions? Now, if your Prophet explicitly states slavery should not be banned- then your prophet is NO GOOD and is also a criminal like the moslem slave traders.

[@sarahsamaria8283]

Great explanation on so called slavery in Islam. May be this concept should be utilised in some way to solving the immigration problem facing the world. All the countries involved those be made to take responsibility for the chaos they caused.

[@katalaksi1566]

This could also be utilized to fight against the prevalent international human trafficking that operates outside the law which exploited a lot of disadvantaged people

[@BinuJasim]

In the modern world where manual labor is becoming less important, I don't think this system works anymore. It was suitable for the most part of history in which working hard in the farm lands and doing manual labor was the only life line.

[@nabilmuhammadsani2827]

​​​@@BinuJasimmanual labor will always be important, even within Europe there is demand for manual labor. Also they aren't meant to undergo tedious tasks that's not the purpose of the system, the system was designed as a way to bring these people under the same roof as Muslims to see the benefit of Islam. Sure they would work in those days, but just the same amount as the one who maintains them. If let's say the ummah eventually unites, and definitely there would be wars against non Muslims because a united Muslim ummah is their worst nightmare, these refugees would be taken into homes, they would assist in home chores, or day to day businesses of their maintainers, the fact that there's less work doesn't mean the system becomes extinct.

[@rubenk1414]

Thank you Shiek you explain it so well

[@SamiaB2009]

Thanks this question is asked all the time and I had no answer

[@userfromdz]

Very eloquent explanation 👏

[@zahraabuji4901]

Very well put, jkhairan!

[@safuanrazali3580]

Amazing explanation by Imam Tom. Have been wondered for a long time why Allah make it possible for new slave to be created. Finally my question been answered.

[@EB-gt1pq]

Really brilliant response

[@user-vr4sc8dh5t]

Can you recommend a book in English and Arabic on this subject? I would like to know how this used to go and the details. Loved the video!

[@UTICAMASJID]

Jonathon AC Brown's book Slavery and Islam -Imam Tom

[@sharizulyaseen]

very rational explanation tq Imam

[@sunset2.00]

I comment on western morality is that all that glitters is not gold...

[@yusraal-sabahi5309]

Amazing explanation

[@mr.nobody9955]

MashaAllah

[@fatmacon9758]

MAŞALLAH TEBAREKALLAH

[@ef2883]

Also another aspect is that everyone used to own slaves at that time. Abolishing it immediately is like telling everyone in modern times "you can't own phones" starting tomorrow. It wouldn't work so had to be phased out...

[@user-vz3pd3nh4t]

Yes it can... ribaa can be prohibited straightforward.... Slavery can also prohibited if there is verse about it for example slavery is a big sin and all humankind shoud be free Why need thousand years to wait for europe kafeer who PROHIBIT SLAVERY first and the fact that Saudi and Yemen became THE LAST country who prohibit slavery in 1960s after international.pressure?

[@ambivalentaxe]

@@user-vz3pd3nh4t slavery still exists. and will always exist

[@Hamooouud]

BarakAllahfeek Ustadh. one question though: Are you aware of Br. Abdullah Al-Andalusi's comprehensive presentation on this topic?

[@AdilAli-yv8zd]

Awesome explanation.

[@zipzap6783]

Worst explanation possible. The guy didn't even talk about how Islam allows sex with captives. Here is a hadith that shows this: *Chapter: It is permissible to have intercourse with a female captive after it is established that she is not pregnant, and if she has a husband, then her marriage is annulled when she is captured* *Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:* *" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end).* -Sahih Muslim 1456a

[@johnnydeclanbarnes116]

Nice explanation

[@hm-hq4bf]

Subhanallah

[@PantherParty84]

My apologies Assalamualaikum to my all my brothers and sisters.

[@eyebutterfly]

A lot of things sheikh Tom explained here I hadn’t fully understood until now like what رق is in reality with regards to modern times mashaAllah. Allahu Akbar how we have solutions for every situation. I would say however that everything Allah made halal is good and everything he made haram is bad/dirty as our great scholars of Islam have described it. I do see how though that halal doesn’t always mean we will like it or make us comfortable such as a woman who’s husband takes on a second wife she may hate it but Allah made this halal for reasons that benefit the man and society as a whole.

[@StudentOfKnowldge]

MashaAllah 🔥🗿

[@-AHMADAL-TAIE]

I appreciate the the enormous effort but I feel like a better analogy could be presented to the one with the refuge camps

[@nitsujnewbie1408]

great politician

[@mhk5272]

We have to come out of denial. 1- assimilation and being owned like a property are complete opposites. 2- if assimilation was the goal why was sex allowed as many "not-slave" girls as one can own. 3- if assimilation was the goal why umar enforced "not-slave" girls to be bare breasted. ... the list goes on. Also if you believe being a sex "not-slave" was the best solution. A 15yo child can come up with a better solution.

[@muslimuddin3656]

1. A bullshit explanation of islamic riq If they are owned like a property, then why they are having same food and clothes If they are property, then why they are not mistreated or overworked, but should be treated well If they are owned like property, then why they can take legal action for a breach of their rights, and may be freed as a result If they were property, then why they can get married if their owner consents If they were property, then why there guilty of crimes can only be given half the punishment that would be given to a non-slave If they are owned, then why female slave cannot be separated from her child while it is under 7 years old If they are property, then why Islamic law allows slaves to get their freedom under certain circumstances Our prophet Muhammad said [He will not enter Paradise who behaveth ill to his slaves. The Companions said, 'O Apostle of God! have you not told us, that there will be a great many slaves and orphans amongst your disciples?' He said, 'Yes; then be kind to them as to your own children, and give them to eat what you eat yourselves. The slaves that say their prayers are your brothers. Be kind to slaves as to your own children...and those that say their prayers are your brethren. They (slaves or servants) are your brothers, and Allah has put them under your command. So the one under whose hand Allah has put his brother, should feed him of what he eats, and give him dresses of what he wears, and should not ask him to do a thing beyond his capacity. And if at all he asks him to do a hard task, he should help him therein.' 'There are three categories of people against whom I shall myself be a plaintiff on the Day of Judgement. Of these three, one is he who enslaves a free man, then sells him and eats this money'. al-Bukhari]

[@muslimuddin3656]

2. Another ignorance you showed Sex with female slave is prohibited, only with Christian and Jews are allowed Now tell me, if sex was the motivation behind the islamic riqq, then why sex is not allowed with every female slave? This is clear indication that in islam riqq is not for sex but for something else

[@muslimuddin3656]

3. This is hilarious 😂😂😂😂 A free woman has three types of clothing obligation (how much she has to wear الستر) A satr in front of non mahram A satr in front of mahram A satr for praying The Satr of female slave is same of how much a free woman have to wear in front of Mahram I hope you will never talk about big issues without sufficient knowledge 😊

[@user-vz3pd3nh4t]

​​@@muslimuddin3656you seems have zero knowledge in islam... All ulema agreed that SEXUALLY PENETRATED your slaves is HALAAL... it is ijmaa... you can read all tafseer and hadith If you prohibit something that Allah allowed it means you are DISBELIEVER or KAFEER

[@user-vz3pd3nh4t]

​@@muslimuddin3656you must read asbabun nuzool of hijab... Slave girl awrah is form navel to knee... it is in fiqh..to differentiate slave and free woman

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

As A black Muslim, this sounds great! The issue is that this brother is not black and likely does not know the damage his nonchalant attitude does to black people who have been bombarded with accusations that it is exchanging one slave master for another to be Muslim. How about telling black people that Muhammd (SAW) was raised by a black woman? How about talking about her son Usamah (RAA)? How about talking about the black grandmother of Umar (RAA)? Do that! Stop trying to lesson the whip of slavery.

[@UTICAMASJID]

Imam Tom actually did 4 back to back khutbas on this topic called Lessons From The Black Companions, you can find it in the Khutbah Playlist kzbin.info/www/bejne/gorZqGSBgdZ9ps0

[@movietower6095]

I have some questions on the this topic. What if the female slave doesn’t want to have Sex with her master? Which woman wants freely have Sex with somebody who killed her husband, brother, father or all of them? What about the women whose husbands are still alive? What if a female slave has got children? Has the Master the duty to keep them all together or can he separate them? Like for example one son goes to one master, the daughter goes to another one and so on. Would it not be cruel? Can a Muslim free a slave which doesn’t want to become a Muslim or can a Muslim only free a slave who converts to Islam? Is there a tool which can guarantee, that slaves will be threated well?

[@zipzap6783]

Slaves can't consent. So, a master can force himself upon her. Here is a hadith which shows how Sahabas had sex with captives whose husbands were alive: *Chapter: It is permissible to have intercourse with a female captive after it is established that she is not pregnant, and if she has a husband, then her marriage is annulled when she is captured* *Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:* *" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end).* -Sahih Muslim 1456a

[@movietower6095]

@@zipzap6783 This is not a proof, that a Master can force himself Upon her. I Need a clear proof.

[@zipzap6783]

@@movietower6095 They are slaves, which means they are property. No one asks permission before using a property. Why would the captives give permission to have sex with someone who killed their families?

[@mr.nobody9955]

❤️❤️

[@mohamedacharki6527]

We could define the essence of slavery as an institution in which persons are divested of their freedom and are owned by another. That is, people become property. This definition can include the phenomenon of slavery in European or Islamic (legal) cultures. We can then analyze the properties of slavery within these various cultural milieus. However, we shouldn't pretend that there aren't shared core meanings. This will only confuse people further. It was only permissible for free persons to be indentured through the type of processes described by the speaker. However, Muslims could, in principle, acquire already enslaved persons being sold in internal and external markets freely. Though, as the speaker mentioned, Islamic law had clear directives, laws and ethics related to their treatment.

[@mr.nobody9955]

❤️

[@Balharbor28]

Defense takes all kinds of irrational explanation.

[@ashketchum1793]

Salam, the refugee analogy breaks down with Allah allowing sexual relations with slave girls that have no say who is going to buy and sells them for profit. How to deal with Muslim refugees is much more obviously related to muhajirin. I feel it's better to say I don't know when asked for a reason then to give an answer based on logic divorced of any hadith or ayat that should be quoted instead of hypotheticals. And allahu alem

[@joshuaalfred7746]

Slavery in any form is bad regardless of how it is worded. We should strive to live in a world society built on justice no matter what your race, creed, or color maybe. We should only participate in things that will produce contructive results an guarantees that the people who need the most help get the help they need.

[@eattheprogrammingcookie3957]

yeah but if war happen so we should prison them or what

[@soldier1661]

Salam alaikum! I thought this was very insightful, jazakallah for sharing!! I’m just wondering why Allah wouldn’t allow these captives/wives of combatants to simply choose what they wanted to do as opposed to have to go into the believer’s house and become part of his household? If they didn’t have a good chance of surviving on their own, that is fine, but they should have been able to choose what they wanted to do, no?

[@skyline8222]

VERY GOOD QUESTION MY FRIEND

[@zipzap6783]

And this guy didn't event mention Islam allows Muslims to have sex with captives. Here is a hadith that shows this: *Chapter: It is permissible to have intercourse with a female captive after it is established that she is not pregnant, and if she has a husband, then her marriage is annulled when she is captured* *Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:* *" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end).* -Sahih Muslim 1456a

[@fadhakintilerewa7509]

Am sorry I have a serious question ,I am from west Africa but why does islam put Arab first, I saw a video of a sheik saying to spread the caliphate they go to village and tell them to surrounded under the caliphate and pay taxes or be killed. THis forces tribes to be at the mercy of large caliphate and take people into slavery, this was done in the Arab skave trade in North Africa,meaning if the small tribe doesn't join the big caliphate they die,then when Islam want to band something like Alcohol or Zina its bans it straight up,why doesn't it band slavery straight up, o have heard sheik say if slavery was banned instantly it will shake the stability of the nation, his point was it was abolished gradually, that means if I was born a thousand years ago as a black muslim I will be a slave, at the mercy of my master if he decides to free me or not

[@redtimez4520]

Did Islam say Black's should be slaved? No Slaves were those who lost in a war regardless of their colour or background lol

[@Isak_Real]

What changed the Imam's opinion on slavery? When did the majority of scholars change their opinion?

[@slightlyopinionated8107]

Sheikh Tom has an excellent way of speaking. Speaks rationally and gives modern concepts to run it all home. May Allah bless you for your knowledge

[@pablobarroso7193]

Agreed, as a Buddhist, sometimes people use Tibet's serfdom to condemn Tibetan Buddhism. The point is that from a Marxist point of view serfdom can be abolished when there is a superior system of social productive relations.

[@user-zu6qu1uj8r]

In Somali culture, when tribe wars would occur, prisoners of war would be tooken to prevent the opposition from regrouping and coming back in the future due to their resentment. This is also why they hated having daughters, because when they lost a war, their women would be taken and produce offspring for their enemies, making their enemies strong again.

[@yousefshokir6481]

May Allah reward you for this clarification.

[@1aninterpreter1]

Can slavery benefit the modern world? If a person commits a crime here in the US, is enslavement a good option for his rehabilitation?

[@UTICAMASJID]

No, slavery is never appropriate as a punishment for crime.

[@reckondragon2130]

Can anyone explain this: Sahih Bukhari 3:41:598

[@skyline8222]

No explanation needed. the messenger of GOD Mohammad openly bought and sold slaves

[@ZAYYAN18]

Alhamdulillah we r blessed Muslims❤we Muslims don’t worship any Manmade idols or animals as god,,we worship Allah the one ☝️ the king of the worlds,none is worthy of worship except Allah ❤❤❤the unique ❤❤I lovvvvvvvv u Allahhhhhhhhhh

[@zipzap6783]

Yeah, worship the Allah who allowed sex with slaves. Disgusting people! Here is a hadith that shows this: *Chapter: It is permissible to have intercourse with a female captive after it is established that she is not pregnant, and if she has a husband, then her marriage is annulled when she is captured* *Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:* *" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end).* -Sahih Muslim 1456a

[@unmatched9491]

since this form of slavery comes from the intention of mercy, why not ask the captives what they want after they lost the war? do they want to be right hand possessions or maybe they prefer living on their own? you didn't cover this which I think is very important, also how do you see this applied in our day an age? I mean what you said sounds closer to what isis is doing than what international law dictates, and assume we have a better model for taking care of captives after wars, would you abandon all the Islamic laws related to slavery or do you aim for establishing a slave market once khilafa is established? the issue is not slavery itself, but how you understand sharia law in the 21st century

[@RayOfHope8]

❤❤❤🌹🌹🌹🌹

[@pellesvansl]

what about arabs involving in slavetrade? they were muslims both

[@pellesvansl]

@@Elite_Elif yes that was wrong, Arabs selling black slaves to white Christians, you know those slaves were MUSLIMS...what is this nonsence...what bad Muslims...

[@jinn_1891]

......... yet the ottoman empire didnt want to get rid of this law...... islam allowed slavery to be moderated... ...... ...... NOT ABOLISHED! Saudi 🇸🇦 didn't abolish slavery until the 1960s ........

[@Diamondraw4Real]

some slaves maybe can the sheikh talk about sura muminuun verse 6? As opposed to surah 4... there were slaves before Islam who were still slaves when Islam came on the scene. Barak Allahu fik. Btw NAK talked about this in a video about sura muminuun. Peace. Edit: please give references

[@kamlasayeen]

Jazakallah khair Imam Tom. Will you do a video on the right hands possess and consentuality of sexual relations in that relationship?

[@BEING_A_MUSLIM191]

And imam Tom has reduced the whole topic into "settlement" program. The way slave women are treated in terms of Satr is quite problematic and many other things. I don't see this as any solid explanation.

[@eattheprogrammingcookie3957]

freeing a slave itself is a form of abolshing slavery

[@daviddoran2116]

So in short slavery is allowed in Islam, and by the way the type of slavery found in America was indemic across the Muslim world untill America ended it

[@UTICAMASJID]

So in short, you didn’t watch the video.

[@daviddoran2116]

@@UTICAMASJID nope I watched the video , he was talking out of his ass , the type of slavery as you know that existed in the Muslim world was not thd type he has described and was not abolished by Muslims, Americans had to form Muslims to stop it . I'm sorry you do not like reality

[@UTICAMASJID]

@@daviddoran2116 And what type of slavery existed in the Muslim world exactly? Because we all know the type that existed in the US

[@daviddoran2116]

@@UTICAMASJID a combination of chattel [practiced in the us ] slavery and bonded slavey , depending on the country some slaves had far more rights than others. The issue is there is no defensible slavery , fortunately the Americans got rid of most slavery

[@UTICAMASJID]

​@@daviddoran2116 Hypothetically, let's say that is true, what does Islam say about the treatment of slaves, can they just be used and abused as they were in the US?

[@superdflye]

Can’t fool me. Devil is a liar

[@rahel5622]

What other excuses will Muslim come up with for slavery ! 😅😅😅

[@doctorsofgoldenhour]

Refugees resettlement Jaza kallah You made it simple in two words As a muslim i was always apologetic about it

[@zipzap6783]

He didn't even talk about how the Muslims are allowed to have sex with captives. Here is a hadith that shows this: *Chapter: It is permissible to have intercourse with a female captive after it is established that she is not pregnant, and if she has a husband, then her marriage is annulled when she is captured* *Abu Sa'id al-Khudri (Allah her pleased with him) reported that at the Battle of Hanain Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent an army to Autas and encountered the enemy and fought with them. Having overcome them and taken them captives, the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace te upon him) seemed to refrain from having intercourse with captive women because of their husbands being polytheists. Then Allah, Most High, sent down regarding that:* *" And women already married, except those whom your right hands possess (iv. 24)" (i. e. they were lawful for them when their 'Idda period came to an end).* -Sahih Muslim 1456a

[@AhmetFurkan55]

I couldn’t understand what is the word we Muslims use for this topic. Can anyone write down it here?

[@artemis1127]

الرق

[@AhmetFurkan55]

@@artemis1127 thanks a lot 😊

[@AhmetFurkan55]

@Aziz Rahman same 😶

[@knisayusuf]

@@artemis1127 thank you😊😊

[@bettermetal8306]

Saudi Arabia only ended slavery in 1962. The slaves were not war refugees but instead mostly Africans were trafficked from east Africa across the Red Sea into Arabia. Forms of slavery are still practiced in countries like Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Saying that it isn’t “slavery” is insane. You should be ashamed for condoning a 100% (not 50% or 60%) evil act

[@Notajerk12318]

Bro its very simple just show them the bukhari hadith4993

[@taherramartin7362]

You avoided the entire question. Please explain the raids in the Horn of Africa which were merely to gather people. Again talk about the sexual exploitation of the women and children. This went on for centuries and is still going on in Muslim countries such as Lebanon.

[@yemi3266]

Islam is perfect people are not perfect.

[@fatimaking184]

Hey, ever heard of bad/ corrupt people? There are rules and not everyone cares about following them therefore they go on to break them within Muslim lands it’s called ✨disobedience✨

[@taherramartin7362]

​@fatimaking184 He still did not answer the question 🙄 We understand there are disobedient Muslims but it should have been completely outlaw under the major sin of oppression.

[@user-jr8te4so1d]

No matter how you try to paint it, owning another person against their will is still wrong. Slavery is evil in all its forms.

[@sph1226]

I guess you weren't listening with understanding… He just explained that it's not owning. It's a way to provide displaced people with the necessities of life while avoiding the resentment of the people providing it through their taxes.

[@bettermetal8306]

@@sph1226You didn’t say it wasn’t owning. You simply tried to justify owning another human. Slavery is evil no matter which way you try to spin it. There is no scenario in which forcing another person to work for you is justified

[@khalifh3907]

may allah bring back the practice of concubinage ameen thumma ameen 🤲 ya allah grant me female concubines both in the dunya and akhira.

[@kelvinthomas9945]

What about sex slaves?

[@agvagv9514]

Islam is beautiful and its ways are perfect. The concept of slavery in Islam is different from that in the west for sure. However, in Qatar a muslim country a friend saw slaves in chains, people who were being treated like animals.

[@petraravn5421]

Is Islamic slavery beautiful and perfect?

[@s.h.2697]

To determine the correct way Islam is practiced, you refer to the example & practices of the Prophet (pbuh) and the rightly guided Caliphs (the first 4 caliphs of Islam)...anyone else after them could be "practicing" Islam incorrectly. Islam is perfect, but Muslims are not...

[@SalimBJKD]

JazakAllah for this explanation. Can the person have sexual relations with the female captive or force himself upon her?

[@yomista]

Are you for real?? Obviously not that’s haram! You need to be married to have sexual relations with the opposite sex

[@iliriandedvukaj4022]

@@yomista Sahih al-Bukhari 2542 says otherwise...

[@swordoftree]

There are certain topics that are better if you privately research because not everyone has positive views about Islam and sometimes things can be taken out of context no matter how much you mean well if you discuss them publicly. In fact, him making this video was very risky as it is. Anyone can take it out of context no matter how positive his intention is and some probably will as more people watch the video.

[@shahriarkabir6924]

@@iliriandedvukaj4022 i don't know what u r saying but if that female slave gets pregnant then the master have to make her his wife and give his inheritance+ he can't force her to sleep with him

[@user-vz3pd3nh4t]

​​@@yomistaAstagfirullah, dont talk WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE In Sharia ALL ULEMA AGREED that sexually penetrated your slaves doesnt require consent and you can having sex with them whenever you want

[@anumnasir2964]

I'm sorry but slaves were not just prisoners of war..

[@zipzap6783]

And he didn't even mention about how Sahabas were allowed to have sex with female captives.

[@bonnyfaal2068]

Watch the Zanj than you will think twice about Arab and Islamic slavery, stop the justifications

[@jamesk1k]

No slavery - of course not just call t something else.

[@investirenbourse-brvm1328]

Slavery of any form is not acceptable. I totally disagree your arguments here. And the way you present it in your talk is Allah Couldn't find a better solution to the economy at that time? Are you kidding? Why can't God just forbid in one sentence slavery of any form. The explanation given here try to tell some forms of slavery are acceptable and that is a big problem. I am a Muslim and your explanation is like the Coran Couldn't be from God? Becos you say it was the system at that time? What about now?