Why Didn't Link Age In The Wind Waker?

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HMK

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4 жыл бұрын

When Link pulled the Master Sword from the Pedestal of Time in Ocarina of Time he was sealed and aged for seven years for being too young. Why didn't this happen to Link in The Wind Waker?
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@HMK
@HMK 4 жыл бұрын
So why did Ocarina of Time get Timeskip treatment and The Wind Waker Link ....SKIPPED out on it? Let's Dive right in!
@Conor426
@Conor426 4 жыл бұрын
FIRST!
@insanemakaioshin
@insanemakaioshin 4 жыл бұрын
Because he was put asleep by Sage of light in Ocarina of time
@Mysticgamer
@Mysticgamer 4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the sage did it because he knew nine year old link would be no match for Ganondorf. Remember he was watching over him and knew Ganondorf was waiting to ambush link after he opened the door. He knew link would need light arrows and more advanced tactics and gear to defeat ganondorf so he probably intervened and if not why was he watching over link if he wasnt going to protect him from being murdered?
@austinparker9238
@austinparker9238 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone forgets WW IS SIXTEEN!!! He was 7-10 in OoT
@BLOODY__FATALITY
@BLOODY__FATALITY 4 жыл бұрын
I personally just brush it off in my head either as it not being at full power and lacking that ability when he pulled it from the stone or him just simply being mature enough when he pulled the sword.
@DarkPhantom747
@DarkPhantom747 4 жыл бұрын
The reason Link didn't age is because the badass imagery of a little kid jumping 10 feet in the air and sinking the master sword into Ganondorf's head was just took damn cool to pass up for the developers.
@flaco3462
@flaco3462 4 жыл бұрын
that is the coolest reason in existence
@crashban4t.f.s.b783
@crashban4t.f.s.b783 2 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@asrieldreemurrthe1st
@asrieldreemurrthe1st Жыл бұрын
@@crashban4t.f.s.b783 yes.
@jettfire4424
@jettfire4424 4 жыл бұрын
I just assumed it was because the master sword lost its power
@shinyray01
@shinyray01 4 жыл бұрын
same
@zachattack1279
@zachattack1279 4 жыл бұрын
I always assumed it’s because ocarina of time link was too young to be the hero of time but wind Waker link was not too young to be the hero of winds
@spacehog10
@spacehog10 4 жыл бұрын
same
@adamyusuf1805
@adamyusuf1805 4 жыл бұрын
IKR. I thought that since this was the “adult” timeline the hero of winds would be an adult.
@TheUltimateRare
@TheUltimateRare 4 жыл бұрын
yeah if it has no power, time powers can't exist either.
@TaliesinMyrddin
@TaliesinMyrddin 4 жыл бұрын
There was no time travel, he just took seven years to pull the sword out because he was weak
@Tsuki_0718
@Tsuki_0718 4 жыл бұрын
So this is time travel
@smartstuf1026
@smartstuf1026 4 жыл бұрын
Yandere Fan no he was put to sleep
@mogu_art
@mogu_art 4 жыл бұрын
@@smartstuf1026 idk man, if you put the sword back you go to the "past", also the master sword its in the temple of "time" so i guess it is time travel
@carlosflores9890
@carlosflores9890 4 жыл бұрын
He trained with the sages for seven years becoming strong enough to wield the Master Sword
@jisanpissan2900
@jisanpissan2900 4 жыл бұрын
No matter what you say when adult link put the master sword away he then would “Sleep” to the past so it is time travel
@lordnul1708
@lordnul1708 4 жыл бұрын
And here I was thinking it was because the powers that be recognized sealing Link away might not have been a smart idea because of Ganondorf, and did a "let's not do that again".
@Shadamyfan-rs8xc
@Shadamyfan-rs8xc 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with this.
@OmegaX5000
@OmegaX5000 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@spacehog10
@spacehog10 4 жыл бұрын
That's probably the most intelligent thing that the gods have done in the entire series
@lapersianaperta
@lapersianaperta 4 жыл бұрын
I was sure WW Link was already 17, but seemed a child because of the artstyle. His grandma said "you are the same age of the hero". If we can't trust grandmas anymore this planet is doomed
@HMK
@HMK 4 жыл бұрын
Easily can be taken as a misconstrued interpretation of a Legend, especially when it is unclear as the age of Link from OOT when we deal with 2 different ages
@ShadowVincent3
@ShadowVincent3 4 жыл бұрын
I always took that to mean that he was the same age as the Hero of time when he began his journey
@raiguard
@raiguard 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowVincent3 I agree, it's pretty obvious that link is already of age in WW.
@omegaharbmaster
@omegaharbmaster 4 жыл бұрын
ShadowVincent3 that’s what I think.
@clonecommanderrex8542
@clonecommanderrex8542 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowVincent3 Same
@willlovendahl2309
@willlovendahl2309 4 жыл бұрын
In Ocarina of Time, Rauru, the Sage of Light, explains that he sealed Link in order to make him older in order to face Ganon. The sages aren't present in Wind Waker, thus he didn't age. Thought this was common knowledge.
@FridgedOtter
@FridgedOtter 4 жыл бұрын
Me too, I thought OOT explained it pretty concisely. He even shows the clip right after Rauru says it.
@alexanderacosta9733
@alexanderacosta9733 4 жыл бұрын
Not exactly true since the sages were still around in wind waker, granted they were two spirits and also the two new sages that become the new, but they were there
@paris-1911
@paris-1911 Жыл бұрын
@@alexanderacosta9733 But still exactly true seeing as the remaining sages clearly didn’t have the same type of influence or numbers as they once did in Ocarina. No Rauru sage here to seal Link for seven years - not that that’d be necessary anyways when the entire world is flooded.
@iviyohane
@iviyohane Жыл бұрын
Not exactly. It was the Master Sword itself what sealed Link's spirit into the Sacred Realm. However, the Master Sword lost its power before the new Link pulled it from the pedestal.
@paris-1911
@paris-1911 Жыл бұрын
@@iviyohane So when power was restored, why didn't it seal Link into the sacred realm? I assume it's because it wasn't present _at_ the Temple of Time, right? That's usually the gate to the sacred realm, according to Ocarina of Time.
@sageoffire3964
@sageoffire3964 4 жыл бұрын
Take a shot everytime HMK says "time"
@Rhobeni
@Rhobeni 4 жыл бұрын
Welp judged by this chart I have here *unravels papers*. Welp, I would be dead. P.S. Don't ask where I got this chart.
@robertwindshade7629
@robertwindshade7629 4 жыл бұрын
When he says *Link.
@Tiana_atr
@Tiana_atr 4 жыл бұрын
I figured that it was because he wasn't actually chosen as the hero. Technically he's just some kid who just so happened to be strong enough to be the hero which is why he had the raise the Tower of the Gods and complete the trials within. As he wasn't chosen, this was a trial that had to be overcome to prove himself worthy of being the hero. By completing the trials he showed himself already strong enough to wield the master sword without needing to be aged up.
@scuffed2597
@scuffed2597 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. The vid is taking too much from other games. Yes it has ties with Oot but WW Link is not reincarnated with the power of Courage. It's within him yes, but not the Triforce Power. He proves himself to the Gods and is granted to secrets of the royal family. The sages are still waiting, as their pearls were brought together, trying to find a courageous vessel to test and try to end another reign.
@BloowySawa
@BloowySawa 2 жыл бұрын
@Patrick I recently played WW and at some point it says the hero left every equipment he had behind to go on his own journy, also spoiler alert, at the end when the triforce of courage is restored it fuses with WW link hand and the king proclaims this happens because link is actually reborn and a reincarnation of the past hero, the reason he did not had the triforce as he was born is because in this timeline the past hero Link loses his courage and the triforce he holds gets shattered across hyrule, but more than 3 times in the end of the game it confirms that the hero of winds is indeed another incarnation of link.
@Chris-gx1ei
@Chris-gx1ei 4 жыл бұрын
Why He didn't aged in Wind Waker? Because of the Same reason why he didn't aged in A Link to the Past and A Link between Worlds (even with 1 Year Difference) The Master-Sword was NOT in the Temple of Time
@HMK
@HMK 4 жыл бұрын
That is debatable when it comes to the concept of Ruins, and Where is this 1 year difference coming in?
@TetraForceAC
@TetraForceAC 4 жыл бұрын
I just posted this same idea
@Chris-gx1ei
@Chris-gx1ei 4 жыл бұрын
@@ligerjgold6686 Well... I might have some doupts about that... But that might be true...🤔
@Chris-gx1ei
@Chris-gx1ei 4 жыл бұрын
@@HMK With one (or maybe two) Year(s) Difference I mean they still seemed Not to be 16+ like the others, Just 15 or 14 And I don't think that a 16 year old's body would normally still be on the height of a 14 year old and still having a high pitched Voice.
@firionkaiser8291
@firionkaiser8291 4 жыл бұрын
@@ligerjgold6686 That isn't confirmed though
@shelbybayer200
@shelbybayer200 4 жыл бұрын
Here's my theory The Master Sword in Ocarina of time was being used as a Key inside the Chamber of time to keep the Sacred realm sealed While the Master Sword in Wind Waker was being used to seal time within Hyrule castle
@SDHVFS
@SDHVFS 4 жыл бұрын
its probably just depends on if you are tall enough to hold it with one hand or not pretty sure in OOT the master sword was actually bigger than young link Also could be because young link was destined to be the hero of time which had requirements whereas the hero of winds was just proclaimed by the king of red lions and he had no legendary prophecy thus no requirements
@scuffed2597
@scuffed2597 3 жыл бұрын
Just a bad ass Island Kid with a whole lot of determination and courage.
@twilightdeku
@twilightdeku 4 жыл бұрын
Wind Waker Link is still one of my favorites because he had to prove himself as a hero since he didn't carry the spirit of the hero. He forced the gods to choose him as the next hero (Which I believe made his soul the new spirit of the hero to be passed down to Spirit Tracks Link)
@yowza9638
@yowza9638 4 жыл бұрын
This. Wind Waker Link is the GOAT.
@kedorichint503
@kedorichint503 4 жыл бұрын
Wait if thats the case where is the OG spirit of the hero?
@yowza9638
@yowza9638 4 жыл бұрын
@@kedorichint503 It probably just pops back up in the next chronological installment.
@twilightdeku
@twilightdeku 4 жыл бұрын
@@kedorichint503 The original (which resided within the hero of time) went back and stayed in the child timeline
@IndicaEuphora
@IndicaEuphora 4 жыл бұрын
@@kedorichint503 It doesn't even exist anymore in that timeline
@criticalhard
@criticalhard 4 жыл бұрын
This is the kind of zelda theory videos that KZbin needs, i'm sick of 'does this rock gives a hint on the timeline' or 'this bridge has a huge mystery' those are bs. Hmk is quality 💯.
@al-hullandi
@al-hullandi 4 жыл бұрын
Never attack Zeltik like that again
@domino3861
@domino3861 4 жыл бұрын
criticalhard who r u referring to?
@KevinsYeah
@KevinsYeah 4 жыл бұрын
A la verga recuerdo ver tus videos cuando era un feto pensé que estabas muerto hahahs
@criticalhard
@criticalhard 4 жыл бұрын
@@KevinsYeah Hola feto 👀 gracias por haber visto mi trabajo lo aprecio mucho ❤ y no xd aun sigo vivo jaja
@IndicaEuphora
@IndicaEuphora 4 жыл бұрын
@@al-hullandi Zeltik is a good youtuber but he definitely goes out on a limb sometimes
@jesterjaded73
@jesterjaded73 4 жыл бұрын
WW Link already had his badassometer maxed out by the time he reached the master sword. That's all there is to it :0
@sageoffire3964
@sageoffire3964 4 жыл бұрын
Bro I just started playing Wind Waker over the weekend. Now THIS is timing. Currently in the Forbidden Woods dungeon. Loving the game so far.
@pingucrimson750
@pingucrimson750 4 жыл бұрын
It’s my favourite zelda game simply because of the pirate aesthetic! (I’m very biased as it was my first zelda game)
@criticalhard
@criticalhard 4 жыл бұрын
Best zelda game with no doubt. ❤
@SSlash
@SSlash 4 жыл бұрын
Bite Za Warudo honestly I’ve just started getting into one piece and wind waker might just be some of the reason that it’s making it easier to enjoy, I guess I just like pirate stories?
@pingucrimson750
@pingucrimson750 4 жыл бұрын
Superslash Lol same for me but I watched One Piece and then enjoyed Wind Waker more because of it. It was my first anime so I didn’t realise how long it was and caught up really quick
@SSlash
@SSlash 4 жыл бұрын
Bite Za Warudo haha pretty similar situation in a way I guess, small world huh? Both are pretty great so I guess it’s only fair if one can make an impression on liking the other
@KryyssTV
@KryyssTV 4 жыл бұрын
You overcomplicated the reason. The answer is far more simple. In OoT, Ganondorf entered the Sacred Realm to claim the Triforce. We are told that the Realm "is a mirror that reflects what is in the heart of one who enters it and touches the Triforce". We know that this corruption happened because the Temple of Light was under seige and was the last bastion of light in OoT. At the end of OoT, Ganondorf is sealed in the "Dark Realm" and in WW we see that he returned from that Realm when a purple rift is found under the Gerudo Fortress. The Master Sword did not seal the Hero of Winds in the Sacred Realm because it didn't exist - it was now the Dark Realm.
@kirbaffle8970
@kirbaffle8970 4 жыл бұрын
it’s also that Link from the windwaker doesn’t have the soul of the hero.
@TheDarkFuryKnight
@TheDarkFuryKnight 4 жыл бұрын
That makes sense. Good video.
@eefle_weefle
@eefle_weefle 4 жыл бұрын
That makes sense. Good comment.
@MCWalter126
@MCWalter126 4 жыл бұрын
2:11 i still say he's 17 but i wont argue with no one
@flextape7993
@flextape7993 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought that he went from 10 - 17 too
@MCWalter126
@MCWalter126 4 жыл бұрын
@@flextape7993 I still do but like I said i won't argue with someone who disagrees
@blues4509
@blues4509 4 жыл бұрын
@@flextape7993 have to ask from your name. Makoto or Sae
@flextape7993
@flextape7993 4 жыл бұрын
@@blues4509 Makoto, but don't get me wrong they are both awesome
@blues4509
@blues4509 4 жыл бұрын
@@flextape7993 i agree with both sentiments lol
@chrisgranger5477
@chrisgranger5477 4 жыл бұрын
He was originally going to but the idea was scrapped during development
@mariocisemusic
@mariocisemusic 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if maybe Fi regretted the chaos caused by time-traveling Link in OoT and just decided it wasn’t worth it
@adrianaklima3463
@adrianaklima3463 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Chil Link fromm Oot 10 yrs old and then + 7 years= 17 years old???
@ErenYeager-oi6hu
@ErenYeager-oi6hu 4 жыл бұрын
They changed it for whatever reason. Apparently, the amiibo says he was 10-17, but Nintendo also says 9-16. So you’re technically correct.
@minatorisato861
@minatorisato861 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't WW start on links 10th birthday? That's the information I grew up with
@ErenYeager-oi6hu
@ErenYeager-oi6hu 4 жыл бұрын
@@minatorisato861 No it was on his 12th stated by Nintendo and his brawl trophy. They explained that the legends messed up the age.
@joshuabrown6791
@joshuabrown6791 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video man! Thank's for finally being the first youtuber to ask a question I've been wondering my self for a while. I think you even brought up a really good point that there may not have even been a need for WW link to be sealed in the first place. Thank's man!
@porobotboyxxx
@porobotboyxxx 4 жыл бұрын
3:56-4:08 *Majora's Mask:* Hey, how's it going?
@Mark_Wise_
@Mark_Wise_ 4 жыл бұрын
It could be because time travel is the reason Hyrule had to be flooded in the first place.
@gizmo.427
@gizmo.427 4 жыл бұрын
He forgot to mention that time was stopped in the temple before link pulled out the sword the moment he pull the sword out the flow of time returned
@JoeMaw97
@JoeMaw97 4 жыл бұрын
No way, you made a video about this! Good theories!
@noahstrong4875
@noahstrong4875 4 жыл бұрын
According to the Champion book for BOTW Link was around 12-13 when he very first obtained the blade. And then had it up until his defeat.
@Krakenjackz
@Krakenjackz 4 жыл бұрын
My boi Link slayin demons at 16 years old. What were you doing at 16?
@reonmckenzie9377
@reonmckenzie9377 4 жыл бұрын
My theory is that hero of winds had to go through a trial in the tower of the gods to prove he's ready, well as the hero of time didn't so he needed to get older to be worthy. Just a theory
@windgod1109
@windgod1109 4 жыл бұрын
I sub to the "hero of winds" was not hylias chosen hero but due to his courage of willing to do anything to get his sister back even fight against the essence of pure evil deemed him worthy of the master sword.
@therighteously8454
@therighteously8454 4 жыл бұрын
The Master Sword had been weakened by the time WW Link got to it. And when he did restore it, it wasn't by placing it back in the pedestal of time otherwise he would've most likely been sealed for 4 years until the blade felt he was ready
@MartinClifford74656
@MartinClifford74656 4 жыл бұрын
I always figured it had to do with the fact that the Master Sword had lost it's power so it wouldn't have had the same effect as it did in OoT. I also figured that it didnt seal him away after it's power was restored was due to Link having proved himself worthy of wielding it by being the one to restore it.
@donweiss2326
@donweiss2326 4 жыл бұрын
There is evidence in BotW that the link in that game pulled the Master Sword at around 12 or 13 and he didn't get time skipped either. I think one possible variable could be lack of propper training for OoT link. WW Link Trains his swordsmanship with one of the old men of the island, and BotW Link trained from a super early age and was a prodigy. OoT link doesn't really have pre existing combat training from what I remember. I don't think that alone would be the reason, but it might be part of it
@kordeliiius9821
@kordeliiius9821 4 жыл бұрын
Children on Outset receive the green clothes when they turn the same age as the young hero of time, so wouldn't WW start on Link's 9th birthday?
@SonOfGoth
@SonOfGoth 4 жыл бұрын
It was stated that Wind Waker's production was pressed for time to meet the deadline. There were 2 whole temples cut out of the game actually. So it's possible that they might have originally intended to have him age in some way and had to cut it out for the sake of time. From a narrative perspective, i have a couple more ideas. The Master Sword in WW was what kept Ganon's minions from moving. Once WW Link removed the sword, the flow of time returned to normal for them. So in a sense, rather than inhibiting the hero with a time skip, it held Ganon's minions in time instead. So they went through a time skip where the hero could move freely, it was probably intended to hold Ganon as well, but with his triforce of power, he was able to break free of the bind. My other idea was that WW link wasn't actually supposed to be the hero. The King of red lions said to Jabun "I don't believe he is related to the hero, but I believe in his courage" or something like that... So it's possible that the sword didn't exactly recognize him as the hero, but without its upkeep from the sages, it couldn't deny him either. WW link became a hero through his own will and was recognized afterward, which also meant that he didn't need a time skip, he had already proven himself, as shown by his wielding of the Triforce of Courage.
@chrispork1443
@chrispork1443 4 жыл бұрын
Breath of the Wild Link was around the same age as the Hero of Winds or slightly older when he first drew the Master Sword before the Great Calamity according to Creating a Champion.
@ErenYeager-oi6hu
@ErenYeager-oi6hu 4 жыл бұрын
True
@deadchannel4177
@deadchannel4177 3 жыл бұрын
And then link is 100 years older then any other link
@Leonardo-cw1dd
@Leonardo-cw1dd 4 жыл бұрын
now that ive been done with school i think i will FINALLY go to finish up my wind waker play through for ganecube
@ZaaltheDragon
@ZaaltheDragon 4 жыл бұрын
Toon Link went through a series of trials to prove his worth. He became worthy by collecting the 3 Goddess Pearls, going through the Tower of the Gods, going through the two temples to restore it's power, AND even went through the process of gathering the 8 shards of the Triforce of Courage. Toon Link worked soo much harder to just attain the Master Sword, and even more to restore it's power. That's WITHOUT going through the trouble to collect the Triforce shards! Toon Link bypassed the age restriction due to going through soo many trails prior to getting the Master Sword and becoming worthy through his hard work and dedication.
@elasmar1337
@elasmar1337 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t the mastersword pedistal already manipulating time by freezing hyrule/ the castle for all those years, when it was pulled and it got released it wasn’t strong enough probably to enact another time holt for years, it was drained after all
@tinotcg5815
@tinotcg5815 4 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Always good to see a classic Zelda theory from the OG :)
@therealsabey5142
@therealsabey5142 4 жыл бұрын
I never thought about this and now I can't get over it man
@born0fkokiri
@born0fkokiri 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Everything made sense! I believe it happened when the Master Sword lost its power that prevented Link from aging to the same age as the Hero of Time.
@ChoZinBomb_86
@ChoZinBomb_86 4 жыл бұрын
I have always wondered about this, thanks for the explanation, hero of time!!
@TheBoldImperator
@TheBoldImperator 4 жыл бұрын
WW Link not being sealed away is simple. He was needed NOW, not seven years from now. Giving Ganondorf seven years unhindered in the Great Sea would allow him ample time to rip the Triforce of Wisdom from Tetra and piece together the Triforce of Courage. In OoT, Link was given the Triforce of Courage as soon as Ganon touched the full Triforce in the Sacred Realm. As a result, sealing OoT Link away kept the Triforce of Courage safe for as long as necessary to build up his strength. Simply put, the powers that be in WW did not have the same luxury of time.
@kyzorend.tirrem4457
@kyzorend.tirrem4457 4 жыл бұрын
One thing between them is that WW Link had proper swordsman training before his adventures began, OoT Link was a boy in the forest... To quote Zod from Man of Steel, as he was leveling up mid-fight like a damn Saiyan, "Where did you train, on a farm?!"
@jamesmatthewhilton4676
@jamesmatthewhilton4676 4 жыл бұрын
Because Wind Waker Link is 16 years old, just like the Hero of Time
@tylerhughes9090
@tylerhughes9090 4 жыл бұрын
Nintendo did say that they will going to age in Wind Waker as you progressed through the game would have been awesome if they did, lots of fans of including myself were hoping to see this in the HD remake as well as deleted dungeons and islands ! If u look at artwork of Wind Waker which was in Hyrule Historia there is a cel shaded link ageing the reason they didn't include Link ageing, deleted islands and dungeons is because they didn't have enough time to do this, such a pity we will never get to see this game how it was going to be release as !
@ssjgotenks2009
@ssjgotenks2009 4 жыл бұрын
tyler fans should try give ntiendo to do this for siwthc prot of wind waker if they wont do the ageing at last add the dealted islads and dungoens
@dioscelto
@dioscelto 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't Toon Link also be 9? The whole premise of the beginning of Wind Waker was that he was finally the age of the Hero of Time, that's why he donned the hero's clothes, which as you've said is nine.
@ErenYeager-oi6hu
@ErenYeager-oi6hu 4 жыл бұрын
No, because it’s confirmed that the legend was messed up due to the hundreds of years between OOT & WW
@mastercobragaming8780
@mastercobragaming8780 4 жыл бұрын
Jotaro Kujo it’s actually a 100 years between OoT and WW. This is still the adult link timeline, but I think Toon Link is around 12 years old (yes, I’m going off the trophy description from Smash)
@ErenYeager-oi6hu
@ErenYeager-oi6hu 4 жыл бұрын
@@mastercobragaming8780 but the legends and king Daphness say several centuries.
@mastercobragaming8780
@mastercobragaming8780 4 жыл бұрын
Jotaro Kujo no, WW is still exactly 100 years after OoT
@juanlaise1059
@juanlaise1059 3 жыл бұрын
@@mastercobragaming8780 Not possible. You don't change your entire culture and forget about the life of a previous kingdom in just 100 years. Centuries is more logical.
@weesedaboi8663
@weesedaboi8663 4 жыл бұрын
reasons toon link is best link 1. fucker just turned 12 and his sister gets kidnapped 2. the master sword got fucked up and it was like "welp you go fix it" 3. gods didnt give no special shit, he had to fish the triforce of courage peice by peice just for it to be snatched by ganondorf
@thelittlebosniaexperience8181
@thelittlebosniaexperience8181 4 жыл бұрын
I thought Rauru figured out at the last minute that Gannondorf had played them all and kept Link hidden to keep Gannondorf from busting into the temple and killing him.
@flaco3462
@flaco3462 4 жыл бұрын
I think its because it woulda conflicted with the themes of the story, since its more about a regular goofy young man who only does this dressup as tradition and becomes a hero in his own right when something he cares about is taken away from him, that being his little sister. The overarching important stuff only comes in progressively and that's where Toon Link 'grows up' so to speak. It's about a normal boy becoming a hero and aging him up woulda derailed that along with the friends he made just by adventuring and finding them on his way.
@duyanhpham9227
@duyanhpham9227 Жыл бұрын
I think because Zelda at the end of Ocarina of time removed Adult Link from the timeline, the mastersword was removed along with him (it was strapped to his back) and the mastersword we see in windwaker is a completely new sword forged by only two remaining sages instead of six.
@GameparkGames
@GameparkGames 4 жыл бұрын
To me Toon link is the age of adult link, he's just on the stubby side and the biggest proof is his sister, she would be the age of child link and we see toon link is considerably older, old enough to leave home on an adventure and to be seen as an adult by the swordsman of the island. The game also starts on links birthday and they say when people hit the age of the legendary hero they wear a green tunic.
@deadchannel4177
@deadchannel4177 3 жыл бұрын
Here is why he said that botw link is 17: In one of the memories, Zelda says that mount Lanaru only allows people that are 17 or higher, and we see Zelda and link going down the mountain, meaning the that link is 17, and for 117 (which in mind that would be crazy) because he slept for 100 years in the Slumber of Restoration,
@syrenity64
@syrenity64 4 жыл бұрын
Like other people pointed out that in OOT link was Sealed away for seven years and it might be because of the triforce and the ocarina of time missing. But in windwaker they didn’t need a hero in seven years, they need a hero one month prior to windwaker
@HEROX05
@HEROX05 4 жыл бұрын
He originally was meant to.
@Joe-ik1ph
@Joe-ik1ph 4 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting theory, but I have another one. What if wielding the Master Sword is not a matter of age, but size? Have you noticed that the Master Sword is larger in Oot than in WW? They should be the same size, and if they are, that means The Hero of Winds is bigger than he seems. So he is able to wield the sword properly because he is about the same size as all other Links despite being the youngest. When the Hero of Time first pulls the Master Sword, it is bigger than him. He would have had a challenge using it in battle. That leads him to being sealed away for 7 years.
@fame_smg-expert3079
@fame_smg-expert3079 4 жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched it yet but I’m guessing because he wasn’t the hero :( I was wrong lol
@minatorisato861
@minatorisato861 4 жыл бұрын
I mean you aren't fully wrong, he just proved himself to be a hero since he's not related to OoT link
@messyng4561
@messyng4561 2 жыл бұрын
Because that wasn't the actual master sword. The real one disappeared with the hero of time. Even Ganon tells you that it's not the real one and mocks it, telling you to take it back down to the people that made it. I think you also have to bless it to get it to work
@Omnitrickster0207
@Omnitrickster0207 4 жыл бұрын
I thought I heard some where that in the WW there is a ceremony where every boy that reaches the age of the hero of time which is 16/17 will where the hero’s garb
@Avatarzillus2000
@Avatarzillus2000 Жыл бұрын
Link in wind Waker from some concept art was originally in game supposed to grow from child and adult which implies that there was supposed to be such a mechanic where link can grow up watch beta64 for more things cut from wind waker
@lnsflare1
@lnsflare1 4 жыл бұрын
I assumed that he was as old as 16 year old Link since the timeline Wind Waker is in only knew of the Hero of Time in the form of the guy who had already pulled out the Master Sword.
@Solstin
@Solstin 4 жыл бұрын
Probably because they initially intended WW Link to grow slowly over the course of the story, showing that his journey across the seas spanned across years. That probably would have had him old enough to be the hero by the time he got the Master Sword.
@mastermold10
@mastermold10 4 жыл бұрын
There is a much MUCH simpler explination for this actualy, for links village and culture as of the begining of his adventure he was 'technicly' an adult, from the moment his grand mother gave him that green tunic by tradition of there village he was technicly (if not officialy) considered a grownup
@eljaminlatour6633
@eljaminlatour6633 4 жыл бұрын
At the beginning of WW, that day was Link's 12th birthday, so Link's grandmother gave Link, the hero's clothes for being old enough to be a hero, that's reason why he couldn't age by being sealed by the master sword.
@aimarlana9980
@aimarlana9980 4 жыл бұрын
I think that WW Link must be 16, because its said that they dress themselves as the hero of time when they are his age. The thing is that they only know OoT Link as a hero (before that he was kown, but not as a hero, not for the hylians at least) after he pulls the master sword (16 years). So WW Link is 16 years old. Also, from what i remember, Tetra and Link are the same ave, so it would be weird to be captain of a ship with 12
@TimmysohnLP
@TimmysohnLP 4 жыл бұрын
I dream of a Zelda game where the Ocarina of time becomes an important Item again wich will Link allow to travel through time again. Wich could make some interesting puzzles for the dungeons or open world exploration. But because we already got the concept of time travelling I don’t think that will ever happen. Even tough I think that today’s technology can make much more out of this idea.
@SSlash
@SSlash 4 жыл бұрын
Timmysohn hell, a game reusing concepts from majora’s mask made anew with current tech could be wild too, I mean even just the mask system alone and allowing you to swap between playable characters/species in any capacity would just be so cool to have again imo
@TimmysohnLP
@TimmysohnLP 4 жыл бұрын
Superslash That would be really nice. The first idea that came to my mind is being able to put a rito mask on and then fly through hyrule. Or you could make underwater areas explorable again with the zoras mask. And with the scale of a Botws Hyrule just these two masks could lead to some interesting puzzles/mini games and secrets. Makes me kind of sad that these ideas were already used even tough I love Oot and MM and would never want to miss them.
@SSlash
@SSlash 4 жыл бұрын
Timmysohn I just couldn’t understand why they wouldn’t want to try new things with old ideas, you know? They say you can’t teach an old dog new tricks or whatever but I don’t quite think they need to apply a similar level of thinking towards every single new zelda game tbh
@SilverRyuu
@SilverRyuu 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes concepts are done again but in new ways. Skyward Sword had a section of the game where time travel was an important mechanic, so I don't see why they wouldn't implement time travel in future Zelda games. It just depends on what they want to do.
@TimmysohnLP
@TimmysohnLP 4 жыл бұрын
Soup I don’t think it’s impossible but I think it’s not really likely. I didn’t even had skyward sword in mind because sadly it is the only 3D Title I couldn’t play up until now. But as you said we had time travel already two times and skyward sword kinda did it the way I imagined it so I don’t see much chances for it to happen.
@chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031
@chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031 4 жыл бұрын
.............I never even thought about this subject before now.
@prptheawesome4911
@prptheawesome4911 4 жыл бұрын
I saw a theory once that suggested the Master Sword transports its user to a time in which it was best to try and save the day. If Link stayed young in Ocarina of Time, he would’ve died for sure. If he waited five years in Wind Waker, the world would’ve already been destroyed. I’m not sure how that ties into other games, but it kinda makes sense.
@Animemusiclover_
@Animemusiclover_ 3 жыл бұрын
I always like saying that the master sword, being a living being, changes in both appearance and choice of when and how the hero is ready to wield the blade, much like the fact that link couldn’t wield it without dying in breath of the wild unless he built up his physical/spiritual strength.
@porobotboyxxx
@porobotboyxxx 4 жыл бұрын
2:07-2:41 *Botw Link:* Uh, I started out as 4 years old when I started out as a warrior.
@slasherz2477
@slasherz2477 4 жыл бұрын
I too was a warrior at 4 ears old fighting imaginary monsters with a plastic sword
@porobotboyxxx
@porobotboyxxx 4 жыл бұрын
@@slasherz2477 *Botw Link:* What drills did you do? Curl Ups, Push Ups, Ippon Uchi, Renzoku Waza?
@slasherz2477
@slasherz2477 4 жыл бұрын
@@porobotboyxxx none I just wing it or at least I think I did I don't remember
@porobotboyxxx
@porobotboyxxx 4 жыл бұрын
@@slasherz2477 *Botw Link:* At the end of the day don't we all?😏 But yeah, Link winged it too, when I woke up with no memories except my name.🤔
@slasherz2477
@slasherz2477 4 жыл бұрын
@@porobotboyxxx I mean it's not like I had a tablet that summoned remote bombs at will or freeze things
@Prexztle
@Prexztle Жыл бұрын
I thought it was because the sages made that one in replica of the master sword in ocorina and when he disappeared the master sword did with him. And needed different requirements to get the power to seal away Gannon and when he turned to stone that was the sages powers.
@Flamyll
@Flamyll 4 жыл бұрын
I always assumed because WW Link was already the age of the Hero of Time, hence the significance of his birthday.
@speedy_brennan
@speedy_brennan 4 жыл бұрын
Umm...does the sacred realm even exist in that timeline anymore after Ganon escaped...or there could be another reason Wind Waker Link may of not of aged is because he doesn't have the Spirit of the Hero that is bound to the Cycles of Demise's curse.
@romano-britishmedli7407
@romano-britishmedli7407 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting question, I have never thought about that. Great video and explanation.
@LinkingYellow
@LinkingYellow 4 жыл бұрын
A few extra things, link from WW was not a chosen hero like the rest. He was just a brave kid who rose to the occasion. If there could be a chosen hero in that timeline, hyrule would never have been flooded. He was only in green because of tradition. Also, the reason there is adult link concept art is because the team wanted to make link age slowly over the course of the game. It was a mechanic that got scrapped.
@jamesscurryiii193
@jamesscurryiii193 4 жыл бұрын
Or it could be the whole lack of a hero thing that causes the Great Flood. WW Link is brand new in that part of the timeline and as such the Master Sword doesn't have a pre-established optimum age for wielding to go off of.
@hannityfoster6
@hannityfoster6 9 ай бұрын
There's also a theory that the MS is a mere replica in WW. See "The Fake Master Sword" by the Game Theorists for more info.
@WarrenValion
@WarrenValion 4 жыл бұрын
I thought about his as well. My assumption is that because the Master Sword isn't in the Pedestal of Time, within the Temple of Time, acting as a key that brides the Light World from the Sacred Realm - there is no place for the Master Sword to seal WW Link to age up a few years, as well as the sword being weakened initially.
@loose-hotline5026
@loose-hotline5026 4 жыл бұрын
There was a few tales were you’d think he’d age
@conn7900
@conn7900 4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps it had to do with the maturity of the sages that link was locked away. Young link could have wielded the Master Sword in OOT, but the sages were not ready to do their thing. Zelda, Ruto, and Nabooru were all children still. Who's to say there were sages alive at the time of the same power. Circumstances didn't line up so Link had to be set on pause for everyone else to get ready.
@davidjimmerson6434
@davidjimmerson6434 2 жыл бұрын
2:16 in Ocarina of Time I still say link was 10 years old as a child in 17 as an adult
@panterraorosuke7049
@panterraorosuke7049 4 жыл бұрын
This video has me wondering if the hilt of the master sword is made of time shift stones since its part of the equation for time travel in legend of zelda.
@Solibrae
@Solibrae 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's simply because the forced stasis done to the Hero of Time was all just Rauru's plan. He thought that the Master Sword had to be wielded by a 16-17 year old, just based off the fact the previous and original wielder of the Master Sword was 17, so he forced Link to remain the Temple of Light until he was the "correct" age. "The Wind Waker" has nobody around to make Link wait around until he gets older. The idea that it's connected to the Master Sword not being at full power makes sense too, though.
@blackatron666
@blackatron666 4 жыл бұрын
Windwaker link wasn't a descendent of the hero. He was just a kid. where a big bird kidnapped his sister, and he took it upon himself to save her. He wasn't born with hero blood. He worked hard to become a hero! That's why he had to do the trial of the goddesses and ring that bell! Had he been a descendent, he would have probably been locked in the chamber and aged. But like you said, Hyrule was flooded, which could also play a part on it.
@blake2697
@blake2697 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking its because he wasn't even the chosen hero
@blues4509
@blues4509 4 жыл бұрын
Wind waker link is so cool the master sword just went "yeah you're good"
@Psyberify
@Psyberify 4 жыл бұрын
The goddesses realized they made a terrible mistake the first time. Lol
@axels3188
@axels3188 4 жыл бұрын
I think that the reason Wind maker skipped the Timeskip since the Triforce was lost and temple of time was washed away along with Hirule.
@bloodblues85
@bloodblues85 4 жыл бұрын
WW Link is definitely the most BA Link.
@greyhood3447
@greyhood3447 2 ай бұрын
I've always been of the opinion that the hero of wind was already deemed powerful enough to wield the sword and that young link from the ocarina of time wasn't strong enough.
@ThePageofVoid
@ThePageofVoid 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll edit this once I’ve watched the video in full but I’ll wager that drawing the Sword in the Temple of Time had a hand in the process in OoT. In Windwaker the Sword is found in Hyrule Castle. Edit: Solid points in the video. I still feel that the location is a large reason as to why but not the only one
@cristiansaucedo4707
@cristiansaucedo4707 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was because Ganon hadn't taken over the world in Ocarina of Time so the Master Sword/Sages thought he should grow older while in Wind Waker, Ganon was taking over and Link had to take him out. Think I heard it somewhere
@hanino6453
@hanino6453 4 жыл бұрын
HMK. DUDE YOUR ZELDA VIDEOS ARE GODLIKE
@gavynvillarial
@gavynvillarial 4 жыл бұрын
Well link was supposed to age in windwaker throughout the game concept art backing it up. Whether he was supposed to age throughout periodically, or like ocarinas age system after he pulls the master sword is unknown, but was an idea at one point.
@dicedown_
@dicedown_ 4 жыл бұрын
I thought about it like this, The Hero Of Time is the “Hero of Time” he was meant to travel through time. WW link is the “Hero of Winds” He has no need to go through time. And it is possible that WW link was stronger than Oot link. So he did not need to be sealed for 7 years.
@Powerjoy64
@Powerjoy64 4 жыл бұрын
Yay Zelda Theory! Been awhile!
@benjaminsteele4161
@benjaminsteele4161 4 жыл бұрын
I think it’s also because the sword was moved from the temple of time to underneath hyrule castle.
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