Why Do Atheists Hate Jesus So Much? | The Atheist Experience: Throwback

[@canderson5098]

I don't hate jesus but some of his followers can be real tools sometimes.

[@royjacksonjr.4447]

​@wooshifgay462Mahatma Gandhi. You beat me to it!

[@CarlHobson-zm2gk]

​@wooshifgay462 yeah, Churchville called him a sick-fakir cause he wouldn't help at all against one of the worst tyrants the world has ever known.

[@adamjohannesson3434]

Definitely

[@Jodariel.]

Sometimes?

[@RobertCampsall]

@@CarlHobson-zm2gk Which is a little obtuse, since to Ghandi the British were the oppressors - very present and personally known oppressors. Of course, if Hilter (intentional) was the colonial power in charge of India, passive resistance would have simply meant a LOT more corpses in the streets. But still, I do comprehend his position at the time. The crown had allowed one of it's "authorized" companies oversaw the intentional starvation of tens of millions of Indians.

[@petyrkowalski9887]

I feel very sorry for this woman and the level of indoctrination and brainwashing. Its very sad.

[@kam3410]

Religions entire strategy is to pray on the weak and vulnerable. It is no different than a pimp.

[@scholarlyanalyst7700]

She DID say she was half way (half way to being in the other camp I think she meant?).

[@dwightfitch3120]

@wooshifgay462She isn’t dumb for believing, but for asking why atheists hate J

[@DK666999]

@wooshifgay462no she’s just unreasonably hostile and irrational because of it. It makes her rude, combative, interrupting, and confused. There’s literally nothing good about it and your bs “pretend” atheist comment is just that. You 100% sound like a god believer pretending to be an atheist to get others to agree with you for some sad sense of accomplishment. Sad.

[@Alltime2050]

@wooshifgay462 Superstition was natural for millions of years when humans were too ignorant to understand anything without it. Today, it's a vestige of that ancient world. Its followers are the percentage of the population who either can't or won’t adapt to the changing conditions of a planet filled with billions of people. Their irrational thought process combined with an end-time superstition from the Bronze Age has turned into an actual threat to the survival of our species.

[@CrawfishDeluxe]

We don't hate the dude, it's much simpler than that. We: - Question whether or not he even existed. - Have no reason to think he was a magical person even if he did exist. - Find many of his moral teachings to be unimpressive, such as his failure to denounce slavery, apocalyptic nonsense, views on vicarious redemption, etc.

[@AmericaTheSimpleMinded]

Not to mention that he said he has come to not bring peace, but a sword and that you have to be willing to hate even your own family. Most importantly he said that nonbelievers should be killed and said they are his enemies.

[@TheRealLucifer_Morningstar]

​@@AmericaTheSimpleMindedAnd it's odd that Jesus never denounced the slavery that he reasonably must have witnessed on almost a daily basis. Instead he went with "Slaves, obey your masters, especially the cruel ones..." 👍😳👍

[@davidderubeis7335]

Maybe he did. We only have the writings of others years after the fact to record what he supposedly said, and I doubt anything written opposing slavery would be allowed to circulate in the Roman empire.

[@TheRealLucifer_Morningstar]

@@davidderubeis7335 We can't prove what Jesus said, nevermind what he doesn't say. 👍😳👍

[@TurboWorld]

Ignorance. It's not hard to check ancestry and bloodline results .... Proof has been there the entire time.

[@TheKosmikid]

This call started off in the usual frustrating manner, but once she was willing to actually listen the call went so much better.

[@Leith_Crowther]

No one could have predicted that call would be saved from the dumpster fire that it started as.

[@Chronorust]

I believe this is an important point to consider with just about all arguments on sensitive topics, especially politics and culture. We have to get past the emotional resentment part of an argument in order to have a productive argument.

[@aleaflm4663]

Judging by the comments, only a couple of us watched the entire video. Everyone else is just commenting the title

[@Shellackle]

​@@aleaflm4663or they got so frustrated with the beginning that they just said screw it, commented and turned the video off lol

[@EVPaddy]

@@aleaflm4663 I just find the 180 degree turn very hard to believe...

[@bulwinkle]

It is very difficult to hate something you don't believe exists.

[@mistylover7398]

Y you hate almighty purple unicorn creator alot??

[@deenman23]

actualy its pretty easy lol,i hated joffrey baratheon,i have heard people rly say they hate voldermort,nothing weird with it

[@Chronorust]

@@deenman23 These are tangible things within fiction. Not a personal hate towards somethnig assumed to actually exist within reality. It's all about context.

[@sherlockholmes6990]

One can love or hate Bilbo Baggins. This would be understood as loving or hating the character Bilbo Baggins, of course. Likewise one could love or hate the character of Jesus as portrayed in the Bible.

[@l.n.3372]

​@Chronorust considering that it's fiction, it's not really tangible but I get what you're saying. However, the Jesus of the Bible is no more or less fiction than a HP, LotR, or GoT characters, so disliking any of them is equivalent.

[@waltercunningham1033]

Woman was open and willing to listen. Good on her, I hope she keeps learning

[@davidmitchell6117]

Open your mind not your heart

[@georgem2334]

We don't hate your Jesus. We can't hate something that doesn't exist.

[@IamValak-j9e]

we just hate believers

[@XMeK]

@@Steve-sg3uz No... it's only that silly theists are annoying.

[@kimberlybaldridge5767]

They seriously cannot comprehend this...amazing...

[@TheAginG420]

One cannot hate what one doesn't believe is real. ​@@Steve-sg3uz

[@scholarlyanalyst7700]

Jesus might have been based on a real person (not sure?). But I definitely don't believe the divine Jesus (as described in the bible) exists.

[@E-s.thoughts]

Mahatma Gandhi already gave an answer to that question years ago: 'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.'

[@ruthmckay9086]

@@E-s.thoughts And he was spot on.

[@EVPaddy]

@@ruthmckay9086 if you read the bible, I'm not sure whether therenisnso much to like either. 5% decency, 95% end of time hate everybody but myself bullcrap.

[@Capgpro1]

They are hypochristians.

[@mauriceconnell5900]

You must read Ruth Green's book The Born Again Skeptic's Guide to the Bible. The best book on Atheism I've ever read. Have read it three times over now.

[@XEndlessSteelX]

This woman is so deeply indoctrinated, so blinded by religion, it's seriously depressing to see.

[@KarlBunker]

You should watch a video before commenting on it. Just a thought.

[@XEndlessSteelX]

​@@KarlBunker What the hell are you talking about? You got a secret version that doesn't start with her deeply indoctrinated and then finally being taught to use reason?

[@KarlBunker]

@@XEndlessSteelX Yes, that's what I saw too. So please explain to me how your comment is appropriate to the video. Note in particular your use of the present tense in "is so indoctrinated," and your use of "depressing." This is the most un-depressing TAE video ever!

[@XEndlessSteelX]

@@KarlBunker Indoctrination: bad. Person needing to voluntarily talk to atheists to even learn of other perspectives: bad. Adults never having been taught to think for themselves: bad. Yes, a happy end is nice and all. But that doesn't negate the fact that this poor person was indoctrinated this severely to begin with.

[@KarlBunker]

@@XEndlessSteelX Your excuse for a badly written comment: Lame.

[@drziggyabdelmalak1439]

I've said this many times before - the arrogance of these callers and the ignorance! Wow!

[@Ghalaghor_McAllistor]

Why do christians hate Krishna, Horus, Zeus, Odin, Quetzalcoatl, Pangu, Buddha and co?

[@mistylover7398]

Guz their sinful and lost without horus and will be judged on their judgment day ⬇️🫀⚖️🪶⬆️. And osiris will and must 👎 them to wrath and judgment. Horus iz light and real, religious jebus Christians deny truth and righteousness. They know horus will take da wicked to da throne and thoth will record their life.

[@petemccutchen3266]

Props for spelling Quetzalcoatl.

[@korganrocks3995]

@@petemccutchen3266 I always think of it as spelled Quezovercoatl, after encountering a god with that name in a parody book. 😄

[@petemccutchen3266]

@@pj45670 well, Jewish Ten Commandments.

[@thompson9400]

Because those gods never existed but the real one does if you don't think God exist the Bible isn't true but what's going on in the world today the news The war is rumors of war earthquakes famines All that's predicting the Bible

[@Where_is_Waldo]

My parents were visiting family on a long road trip not long ago and were narrowly missed by a drunk driver swerving down the icy road. They didn't have cell service to report it and heard from a stranger at the next rest stop that the drunk driver had slammed into and killed someone. My mom told me she was sure that god "put his hand down and deflected the drunk driver away" from them and I said "Too bad he didn't do it for the next guy too."

[@DanSk451]

When she said “I don’t know”, she has a good chance.

[@TimHonisett-m1x]

I cannot hate an imaginary friend

[@karapalmer7228]

Some people do hate their imaginary friends apparently actually lol

[@captainhowdy2782]

I've met people who've claimed to have a personal relationship with Lord Krishna. They felt his presence in their hearts. That made him real to them. I don't hate Krishna either.

[@ShabbaDabb]

Thanks for sharing. I love your attitude

[@paulgemme6056]

People mock others in hate and not in love. This evil world, atheists and the devil hate Jesus Christ and everything he stands for. Unbelievers nailed him to the cross because they hated his message and people still hate his message today. The truth that Jesus Christ taught is that we are all sinners in need of God's grace and mercy. John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

[@DarthJediMan]

@@captainhowdy2782 do you belittle and mock them for their belief? Do you use terms like “sky fairy”, “sky daddy”, and “fairytale” when talking about Krishna with them? If not, that probably explains why they don’t claim that you hate Krishna. I’m not saying you do those things when discussing Jesus either, but just some food for thought.

[@captainhowdy2782]

@@DarthJediMan I don't hate Jesus, but I'm not to crazy about Christianity. If Jesus were still alive (if he ever lived) I imagine probable wouldn't care for it either. Based on what I've read. He didn't like hypocrisy. BTW I did attend the Self Realization Foundation as a young man. They included their version of Jesus into their worship of Krishna. Both being avatars to a higher power. I tried to get into it, but ultimately couldn't make myself believe it either.

[@captainhowdy2782]

@@paulgemme6056 I don't know about all Christians, but I think most of pushiest of them don't seem to follow the sayings of Jesus. If think many of them would've nailed him up themselves, if he were alive today. Reread everything in red letters if you doubt me. They would label him a weirdo and a socialist today.

[@Mr_Porter]

The question, "How did you know that God is the good one and Satan is the bad one?" is compelling because the book in question only provides a narrative of one figure’s actions. Without a balanced view of both entities, how can one confidently distinguish between good and evil based solely on one perspective? This highlights the need for a more nuanced understanding rather than relying on a singular, potentially biased source. I've always loved that question and I've used it for a rebuttal a few times when I debated a theists. He was a kindergarten Christian so it broke his brain as soon as he thought about it for more than a second and defaulted to deflecting.

[@kriss3d]

However if you actually go with what the bible says. God is not the good character here..

[@captaincookie2785]

Hail Satan! (Unironic. Check out TST.)

[@jackwhitbread4583]

​@@kriss3dright? It blows my mind he could ever be considered the good guy. From what I've read Satan doesn't even lie, he kills maybe 10 people while in contrast you have the bible itself stating that God creates both good and evil, he slaughters 99.9 per cent of the earth, he lies and cheats, hes insecure and jealous and spiteful. It blows my mind how anyone could possibly see the Christian God as the better of the 2 beings.

[@qwadratix]

Well, Lucifer (as he prefers to be known, apparently) had his own series on Netflix, so you can't complain about an unbalanced view.

[@thedave1771]

I’ve been wrestling with this one for some months. The Satan character as presented by christians is far from perfect, but he’s pretty clearly the protagonist in every interaction with god that I’m aware of. But god? As portrayed in the bible? He’s terrible. The morals are terrible, the lessons are terrible. He’s an insecure psychopath, lying constantly, changing rules at a whim, and gaslighting his subjects into thinking he’s the good one. Maybe he tried to get sober and behave better with the Jesus shtick, but old habits die hard and the pity party kept on going. I just don’t get how he’s the good guy, or love, or any of that. Not the god in the book, anyway.

[@acgsmith5937]

I told someone years ago that I didn't believe there was a God, and her response was to ask me why I hate God.

[@vitast2000]

I grew up religious but then abandoned those beliefs as an adult. I told my sister I did not believe in god, and her response was, "But you believe in Satan?" I understand why she says this because we we were taught that someone who says they do not believe in the Christian god were actually lying, and worshipping satan.

[@UTU49]

@@vitast2000 "But you believe in Satan?" That is a profoundly stupid question. That makes about as much sense as the following. "Hey, sis. I don't actually believe in God anymore." "So now you're a Hindu?!"

[@Ooshgaar]

I've answered this as "the exact same reason you hate Zeus"

[@AvaEFF]

Wow… this took an unexpected turn.

[@jerrods7223]

Word

[@jens2old2care]

Frickin hilarious that i just got an ad during this video for some christian movie with a bunch of B-list (at best) actors by Epoch pictures. Its called Firing Squad. Lol. The irony.

[@emoryogglethorp8180]

I mean it seems like a good thing that they wasted their money lol

[@phoenixkingtheo]

Honestly, one of the best theist callers I’ve heard on any of the call in shows. She came in a little hot but was open to being corrected and actually seemed to listen to the host’s instead of waiting for her turn to talk. I wish them well wherever their journey took them

[@johnsperry9494]

Ron thinking he had the luck potion, Dumbo's magic feather, and Nicole thinking Jesus helps her. All examples of the placebo effect.

[@marvez9188]

Omg this is crazy, it’s the first time I actually see a believer doubting and starting to deconstruct

[@UTU49]

I would settle for them simply listening carefully and trying to understand what the hosts were actually saying. Very few theist callers do that.

[@johnsperry9494]

You want to know about Jesus? How would you like it if someone came up to you and said, “I love you, I really, really love you, but if you don’t love me back, I’m going to set you on fire. That’s Jesus. That’s not salvation, that’s extortion. And it’s definitely not love. It’s like a Mafia thug telling you to obey the boss or I’m going to break your kneecaps. If you can love that person, you have a twisted idea of love.

[@lh1673]

Agree, also even if this god does exist, I rather ask, why you allow your NAME to be used something like a product to many Christian sect, denominations or cults and let those pastors say to the followers ‘Jesus loves’ you so give us money😅

[@kosherjew4223]

If this situation was a married couple, this would be domestic violence. Why is it not the same with Jesus? Sounds the same to me. an abusive relationship. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@DarthJediMan]

Are you familiar with the perspectives of Christians who don’t see it as Jesus setting people on fire?

[@paulgemme6056]

@@lh1673 People mock others in hate and not in love. This evil world, atheists and the devil hate Jesus Christ and everything he stands for. Unbelievers nailed him to the cross because they hated his message and people still hate his message today. The truth that Jesus Christ taught is that we are all sinners in need of God's grace and mercy. John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

[@markuspetersen1109]

@@johnsperry9494 “ Hey, a nice life you got there, be a shame if something happened to it. I tell you what, this is my son Jesus, you believe in him and you’ll be fine. Alright, I’ll see you next Sunday.”

[@MrCanis4]

Now, why do I hate Santa Clause so much. You tell me, because you seem to know better than I do.

[@paultimson6674]

satan claws and krampus, the season of merchandise that replaces Jesus at Christmas. And Halloween replaces All Saints Day at October 31st. everyone of our holy festivals are polluted by an evil alternate version. Someone is working hard to market the crap.

[@williamskinner]

I know NASA knows that NASA is a liar to kids that call in. That is my reason for not liking Santa or NASA.

[@imawake805]

Kind of like how you placed your holidays conveniently over well established holidays of other religions and cultures.

[@davidmitchell6117]

Nooo you cant hate Santa he's such a jolly cool dude. He's brought me gifts every year for 68 years now. How could I hate him?

[@MrCanis4]

@@davidmitchell6117 Mmm, one year he didn't bring me the gift I asked for. Still a little angry, tho. 🤣

[@Dr.TJ1]

I don’t hate Jesus, I hate the idea of Jesus. The idea of Jesus has been responsible for more misery in the world than just about anything else I can think of.

[@paultimson6674]

You make your own misery. You vote in Satan's politicians. Who picks out 24 freemasons? as Presidents. Did anyone actually pick out politicians that have no affiliations to a secret society? That worship LUCIFER. there is no Lucifer in the bible. Who is that? You blame Jesus. You have satan's men in power. This is Satan's kingdom, Milton lied when he said better to rule in hell than serve in heaven. Satan rules Earth. He is restrained by the Church, if we did not restrain him, it would be like Rome in 33AD. No islands of reason. No push back. It all would be like the DRC or a Mexico narco state. The bible states Jesus returns and deposes Satan. Puts him in a cage for 1000 years, he is useful. His followers are not. Stealing billions and trillions is what they do, Bush gave contracts to his friends. They carve it up. You blame God. When you should be seeing the TRUTH. God gives you a life time to see corruption at work. To see what rebellion of heaven leads to. Absolute degradation on earth. You listen to tv shows bad mouth God. When Satan is giving 200 million to Bob Dylan for old songs. lets donate a million to a charity is a joke. They steal a trillion, smile and give back a billion. Thanks. you are my hero.

[@ChrisM-zm4li]

I disagree with that. The idea of Jesus is SUPPOSED to be that humans are all brothers/sisters and need to treat each other as they would like to be treated, be humble, charitable, and accepting. So the EXACT OPPOSITE of Christians. Magic isn't real, so people who use it for their own power are EVIL and of course they'll use Jesus's name to take power while rejecting everything he taught.

[@michaelmay5453]

Not really, religion has been used by people to gain power over kings and emperors by the people who proclaim to know gods mind since the dawn of time. Jesus was pretty much a hippie when it comes to this because he stood with the peasants, the whores and the meek. What you hate (I would believe) are those that are using religion in the way it has always been used and thereby perverting the message of Jesus. I'm an atheist but hating the idea of Jesus is ridiculous, out of all of religion he's the single thing that isn't all bad and if they followed his ideas of the most important thing was tolerance and love then it would be fine, but they don't because that isn't how religion has ever worked, as I explained before. Jesus has nothing to do with Muslims murdering women for not wearing the Hijab, Jesus has nothing to do with the instruction that leaving the religion means you are to be put to death either, that's Mohammad. Different religion, same shit and in no case do they observe the message of Jesus. I could be wrong though, if so I am always ready to learn.

[@theparadigm8149]

What about Austrian Painterism? Pol Pot Thought? Genghis Khan Imperalism? I think these ideologies have caused more destruction than Christianity, and they have nothing to do with Jesus

[@DanSk451]

I don’t mind the depiction of Jesus when he was alive. He sounds like the most progressive liberal minded ancient of all the stories about ancients. Minus the magic stories.

[@erikgilson1687]

Christians like to phrase atheism/agnosticism as hating God because it's a lot more comforting of a concept for them than the idea that people actually truly don't think a god exists

[@Onio_Saiyan]

Jesus only exists in the minds of believers. Or in my case, I have a new coworker named Jesus. “Hey Zeus.” Electrician and welder. Smart dude.

[@countsd1]

This turned out to be a pretty good call once she put down her guard and started to listen to reason. Kudos to Nicole for having an open mind.

[@TurboWorld]

Staged videos be like that, i just converted 25K atheist's on twitter with a question video. Who created the rocks for the big bang, and how did the apes get created from nothing? Now who can't prove something? Common sense, it's just rare is all.

[@Mr.Maryland_]

To an atheist, being "angry" with Jesus is like being angry with Harry Potter - it's non-sensical.

[@Leith_Crowther]

Except the fact that, unlike the Bible’s protagonist, Harry Potter isn’t the bad guy.

[@l.n.3372]

​@Leith_Crowther Harry doesn't free his slave at the end of book 7. Maybe Harry was the slave owning hero the Bible wanted all along lmao

[@KeithRadzik-o9x]

Feel the 'Horcrux'-haters

[@korganrocks3995]

@@l.n.3372 Eh, "his slave" was an extremely old, deranged, brainwashed creature who had suffered decades of abuse from his former owners. Freedom would have been a huge shock to the system, and quite likely would have killed him. As with most problematic things in the Harry Potter books, this is a case of Rowling taking a real world mythical thing and popping it in her books without any thought of the morality of the issue.

[@l.n.3372]

@korganrocks3995 I agree with your assessment that JKR put real world stuff into her books without any care or thought. Slavery is a major example. But I'm gonna call you out on the "defense" that you gave for Harry not freeing Kreacher. There is no reason to not free a slave. In book 5, we had the excuse that Kreacher knew too much about the Order, but the war is over at the end of book 7. Harry is allowed to keep his slave cuz JKR promotes that benevolent masters can keep slaves while mean or cruel masters (Lucius, Crouch Sr.) are frowned upon. JKR is essentially biblical where she doesn't oppose slavery but she encourages benevolent slavery. Which is hugely problematic

[@Andre-zw5kl]

In general if you're having a good day don't put it up for a sky daddy or just luck, give yourself some credit and accept that your day is great because you're doing great.

[@Sundae_Times]

If Nicole's 'proof' for Jesus/God is that she's felt him in her heart, does that mean the fact that we _haven't_ felt him in our hearts is proof that he _doesn't_ exist? Christian 'logic' - always good for a laugh :)

[@danwhite1198]

christian logic is a oxymoron.

[@UncleBuZ]

Maybe the excruciating pain children with bone cancer endure is just God's way of giving them a direct line to his 'presence'-after all, they literally feel him in their bones.

[@danwhite1198]

@@UncleBuZ It is very sad that this happens to children, it makes me think that this god is a very shitty creator or he or it does not actually exist. The good news is that at least he did not murder all of us with a flood again and start over.

[@Gerryjournal]

If you feel anything in your heart other than a regular and consistent beat.............. get to a hospital

[@Shellackle]

Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.

[@marcioperesbiazottijunior8421]

Tears on my eyes! Hail from Brazil, TAE!

[@suburban-vampire]

This is another caller that I would classify as "incredibly emotionally immature". I honestly think that being heavily indoctrinated at a young age causes developmental problems in these people. I feel like religious indoctrination makes life more difficult for the victims because they end up being adults who cannot grapple with reality on its own terms and end up retreating into emotionally fulfilling fantasy. Doesn't seem like a good thing to me

[@OsssV]

@@suburban-vampire All Christians (and other religions) are sold on the idea that all sins are equal and all sins can be forgiven. Thus, people are ready for the afterlife that no one can substantiate

[@jondorr4011]

I think you've hit the nail on the head. It's also something that has come up more than once on the show but I think the best example was from the caller Manda, I think is what her name was. They even got into the whole thing about how religion doesn't really give people adequate coping skills. It's a good call and I would recommend listening to it if you haven't.

[@UTU49]

@@jondorr4011 Do you happen to have a link or video title?

[@RelativeReality7]

It's a critical thinking issue. When you are force fed a reason for the good and bad in your life and not taught to think about it and come to a rational conclusion, it's incredibly damaging.

[@Tahkyn]

I fully understand the caller's anger, the same thing happened to me before I stopped believing. Indoctrination is so, so hard to break and I love seeing that breakthrough moment. This show has done so much for my journey out of it, once I started accepting that I don't have any real reason to believe.

[@platinumnitrocharge4218]

If Jesus did exist he would be ashamed of the hatred, bigotry, violence and abuse that his name has been used to excuse.

[@jay_344]

not if we’re going with a biblically accurate jesus

[@Miodrag.Vukomanovic]

@@jay_344 Cult leaders are praised with high regard.

[@starfishsystems]

Let's hope so. But the (possibly fictional) account of this person doesn't coherently support your claim, so it's hard to draw any constructive inferences from it.

[@TheDahaka1]

@@jay_344 Biblically accurate Jesus would be much closer to a secular humanistic point of view than to any of the bigots XD

[@skindred1888]

Well yes, but he also said that gods laws/commandments were perfect...which includes all the bigotry​@@TheDahaka1

[@heiyuall]

Very good call. Nicole, I sincerely hope you find your path to a good life, in or out of religion.

[@joshsheridan9511]

Hating Jesus would be the same as hating captain hook. Bloody pointless.

[@Leith_Crowther]

What are you talking about? There’s a point there. It’s where his left hand was.

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@Leith_Crowther 😆😆😆😆😆😆

[@UTU49]

@@Leith_Crowther Hi you two. Have a couple of thumbs up. lol.

[@johnosborne3187]

This one made me emotional. Excellent job. Let’s just all work together to make this world a better place for everyone:)

[@ColinHarris-g6g]

Why do theists hate reality?

[@joshsheridan9511]

Because they fear death.

[@mistylover7398]

Guz hate Dat magical complex complicated supernatural iz fantasy.

[@paulgemme6056]

@@joshsheridan9511 True born-again believers do not fear death because they know the giver and sustainer of life. People mock others in hate and not in love. This evil world, atheists and the devil hate Jesus Christ and everything he stands for. Unbelievers nailed him to the cross because they hated his message and people still hate his message today. The truth that Jesus Christ taught is that we are all sinners in need of God's grace and mercy. John 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

[@joshsheridan9511]

@@paulgemme6056 you fear death being the end, your faith is just hiding from that.

[@paulgemme6056]

@@joshsheridan9511 Jesus Christ is the Prince of peace. Those who know and love the Lord do not fear death because Christ Jesus has conquered death. The Spirit (Holy Spirit) of truth gives us a peace that passes all understanding and an unspeakable Joy, something this evil world, atheists and the devil (Satan) cannot give. It's a free gift. The gift of God is eternal life - to know him. No religion needed. Just faith, faith plus nothing. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. -Jesus Christ

[@ClaytonJonesImages]

You can't hate something in which you don't believe. They don't understand that concept...

[@icikle]

Nicole didnt even want to have a conversation.

[@unknown6390]

I wouldn't blame her, she was probably having a little existsntial freak out. Probably moved away from the Christian family and was struggling after learning about Athiest Experience. Most of the time the theists struggle because of being around people who want them to stay Christian and ignorant

[@debdo1960]

Now THIS is how to have a civil conversation. It's a way to explore life.

[@dieseljester]

We don't hate your fictional sky daddy. We just hate what his followers are trying to push onto the rest of us through legislation.

[@mistylover7398]

AND WAR on education and reason 🔴⚛️⚔️✝️🟣 megatron is LORD

[@chongeiktong3426]

​@@mistylover7398 True . Agree. To them faith is education and reason .

[@mistylover7398]

@chongeiktong3426 lol. I guess so. Or they're special ⚗️🥴. High on faith. It's a magical war, it's always been a magical war.

[@DarthJediMan]

See, when you use terms like “fictional sky daddy”, you shouldn’t be surprised when people think you’re being hateful.

[@dieseljester]

@@DarthJediMan Yeah, well when Christians think that I'm going to burn in hell for not believing in their god, they shouldn't be surprised when people think that they're being hateful either.

[@SuperChicken666]

KZbin recommends this video every few months. Every time I watch it, I'm surprised at how quickly she turns around. Something weird seems to be happening.😊❤

[@williamwatson4354]

That went in an unexpected direction.

[@pneumike1]

Nicole wasn't listening, she was waiting to talk.

[@korganrocks3995]

You call that waiting? 😄 I've never heard a caller with worse timing; she would start to say something just as the hosts had started talking, and would go completely silent whenever you'd expect her to reply... must have been incredibly frustrating!

[@Bubbalum]

This caller was the Atheist Experience’s Susan Boyle. Love it!

[@trigguerrier1308]

We should be acknowledging and being supportive, after the initial interaction, of her willing to be honest and vulnerable to uncomfortable ideas about the reality we share. And her willingness to acknowledge the humanity we share.

[@beetsar]

Theists putting words in atheists mouths.

[@t800fantasm2]

I'm going to steal that line for future use...

[@unfoldingskin]

It's kinda their thing! It's the only way they can come out of a debate looking sane

[@ketorising81]

I don’t hate Jesus. That would be like hating anyone else I never met. I simply have no reason to think he matters.

[@evolutionaryadvantage]

Some people just can’t fathom the fact that other people don’t have a religion and don’t believe in a god or prophet etc. Some automatically think we worship Satan or are Wiccans etc not grasping the fact that the belief in those is just as preposterous. It’s the supernatural connotations that are associated with these beliefs that we don’t believe in.

[@chagadiel]

I think maybe those who do are a little insecure in their faith and the fact that someone doesn't beleive threatens their insecurity somehow. The peaple I know who are Christian don't give a toss most of their friends are atheists. One friend who is very religious married another Christian who was very much been only in Christian circles. She insisted he had to hang around her atheist friends to get a bit more worldy and see what a great bunch of peaple we heathens are.

[@h.c.9738]

Glad to see you getting through to someone. Most seem to just go around in circles with false beliefs.

[@smochygrice465]

As an atheist I don't hate Jesus Christ, but if there are atheists that do, then it's JC'S father "God" that wills it to be. And a good Thursday Morning 🌞 AXP Fans and Theists ❤❤❤ Peace Love Empathy From Australia 💪🤠☝️

[@lennym1636]

Live long and prosper.

[@sultan.savalan]

Let's give this lady a round of standing ovation 👏. I didn't go through my religious journey this easily. You are an amazing human being. Kudos 👏 💐

[@GuitarGuy057]

That went suspiciously well. All I'll say.

[@jmhaces]

Kudos to this lady for coming out of the gate with the most closed-minded stance possible, but actually listening to what they told her and changing her mind. Most people who call and sound way more open minded than she did at first end up refusing to answer what's been asked and repeating the same talking point over and over. "I do have evidence," "but you do have a choice not to go to Hell," "god loves you."

[@EmersumBiggins]

That poor woman😐

[@IamValak-j9e]

if shed shut up and listen she might learn something

[@gilvis4052]

@@IamValak-j9e Did you not watch through the whole video? That's literally what happened

[@dominikschlatter1428]

A truly good example of how people should interact. Bravo Nicole!

[@mort8143]

It's those freakin' Leprechauns that I really despise.

[@tommccarthy3052]

😁😁😁

[@EricM-8536]

One of my favorite calls

[@richardharris8538]

How can one hate a mythological figure? There's a reason why atheists are also called rationalists.

[@diggie9598]

From a rational perspective, atheism is not synonymous to rationalism. The absence of belief in gods does not automatically entail a rationalist worldview. # equivocation fallacy

[@richardharris8538]

@@diggie9598 I haven't committed the equivocation fallacy. That entails the use of a particular word or expression in multiple senses within an argument, which is clearly not the case. Anyway, atheism is rational by virtue of not believing that for which there is no objective evidence or ontic necessity.

[@DarthJediMan]

People get to the opinion that atheists hate god because of the presence of so many internet atheists who behave with vitriol. I’m not saying that their view of atheists is correct, but that’s where they get to that belief from.

[@RelativeReality7]

God haters have existed since the dawn of time. The ones that go out of their way to make their hate know aren't atheists. They are wounded beleivers.​@@DarthJediMan

[@DarthJediMan]

@@RelativeReality7 yeah, there needs to be a clear distinction made between atheists and anti theistd

[@123Its_just_me]

The root of anger is fear. So essentially, she started her conversation being angry because she was afraid and already starting to doubt….because how dare those people on the show put more doubt into her heart. But while discussing it rationally she’s able to come to terms with her doubt and get some of her questions answered which helped her through her fear.

[@Leith_Crowther]

I wish English had two non-interchangeable words for “hate,” one for hating people and one for hating other things. That way I could say “I hate Mark Driscoll, but I [other word] Jesus,” and it would clear up so much confusion.

[@Mixolydio]

“Nothing warms my heart more than a change of someone else’s” I wish I didn’t get that line from the villainous recruiter guy from Deadpool, but I love it

[@ARoll925]

This is sad, It feels good, therefore it's true

[@AnotherHomeChef]

Children sometimes invent an imaginary friend and it gives them comfort and they talk to him/her and can have an elaborate relationship. Christians have the adult version of an imaginary friend.

[@Noa......]

"How can we hate someone if we do not believe they existed?" Not sure why some theists find it hard to understand?

[@johnwilliamson7506]

When you’re floundering in the dark, and somebody gives you a candle…that’s great! When somebody lights that candle so you can see where you’re going…that is much better!

[@myanbeach]

“I believe this immoral, divisive, hypocritical, bullshit, theology, ‘cause it was the cultural horseshit I was told to believe as a child, even though I know there is no shred of verifiable, data or empirical, science, based evidence of any magical sky fairies!” If these theist callers would simply state this fact before spewing out their absurd, delusional beliefs, these calls would be considerably shorter!

[@DarthJediMan]

Except that they don’t see it that way, and not all theists are so because of the way they grew up so I’d encourage you to refrain from making statements like this that only reflect a certain percentage of theists, regardless of how cathartic it may feel for you.

[@myanbeach]

@@DarthJediMan I wholeheartedly disagree. Without being introduced / indoctrinated into this immoral, divisive, hypocritical, bullshit, theology, as a child, or as an adult, there would no reason to believe such delusional, fairytale nonsense. You and I both know it.

[@DarthJediMan]

@@myanbeach you wholeheartedly disagree with the fact that there are Christians who weren’t raised that way? Try telling that to those Christians.

[@DarthJediMan]

@@myanbeach and no, you and I don’t “both know it”. If you’re going to make a claim, you need to substantiate it with evidence. Not merely respond with vitriol for the sake of whatever warm, fuzzy feelings it gives you. Understand? Now try again. Or don’t.

[@DarthJediMan]

@@myanbeach also, when you use terms like “immoral, divisive, hypocritical bullshit” and “fairytale nonsense”, when referring to religious belief, something people find extremely important and meaningful to themselves, what are you hoping to achieve with that? Do you think that’s going to encourage anyone to open their minds to what you have to say? Is it supposed to lead to progress of thinking? Is it meant to satisfy a prideful, egotistical sense of superiority you feel by mocking and belittling people who think differently than you do? Try and practice some damn diplomacy and empathy, you absolute arrogant buffoon.

[@TheGnewb]

This is one of the better discussions on the ytube so thanks y'all.

[@Croconator]

"He brings happiness and love" and yet if you for a second dare to think for yourself and break away from his oddly specific and stupid rules he will gladly send you to hell Interesting how this supposed loving god is willing to extort people

[@Taylor-vz4ot]

the internal struggle is palpable. it was like this for me during the early stages of my deconversion.

[@johnsergei]

I don't hate Jesus. I'm not a fig tree.

[@AlexeiX1]

I remember watching this video a while ago, it's such a wild ride. Nicole came in hot asking why do they hate jesus and ended the call almost being converted into atheism.

[@onlyme219]

Even If he did exist he died for his own sins not mine. I wasn't around at the time and wouldn't hate or like him, each to their own.

[@mistylover7398]

Same lol

[@brianherndon1209]

God and prayer are like placebos. If some belies something will help them then their mind can make that manifest.

[@Mulakulu]

I hate Jesus just as much as I hate Voldemort, and I can't hate Voldemort

[@Sherpa92]

Such a good call and a real 180 in attitude!

[@yasintorkman4813]

This caller probably was drunk or high asf

[@AngelaJonesReviews]

Hopefully the caller will continue to ask questions and listen to answers

[@heiyuall]

Personally I don’t care about religion as long as it isn’t hurting anyone, including believers. Unfortunately it usually is. Protect yourselves by studying everything.

[@tw3235]

Well, it's damn hard to hate something if you don't see or believe that it exist

[@icikle]

It's either A or B. Logic 101 failed right there.

[@Looneybob1]

No hate for jeebus at all. I will fight for their right to believe in their religion. BUT, their right to believe ENDS at others right to believe what THEY want. Reading their bible made me an atheist, and for the most part, that is true for a large portion of atheists. Believe what you want, live YOUR life according to YOUR beliefs, but keep YOUR religion OUT of other peoples lives. THAT is all the argument needed.

[@ronwhitehouse23]

Now I know what insanity sounds like!

[@mtbiker4life918]

Nicole will now never look at a church the same way after this call.

[@nandorsantho7115]

Beyond gone😢

[@MegaPeedee]

This segment made me feel good. There is hope after all.

[@topherkingz8546]

Awe, congrats you two!! You seem to have gotten through to her! I wonder how she is doing now.... I hope she is well and free!

[@rodseller9936]

All right, assuming that he existed. That slavey thing really bothers me. He has a bad habit of not keeping his word.

[@johncunningham739]

Hate is not apart of my being.

[@karegairegi9071]

Y'all need to screen some of these callers smfh! She's the type that you guys need to skip over... She seemed disconnected right from the start.

[@robhaskins]

Such a good conversation.

[@Beacon80]

I can't speak for others, but I don't hate Jesus.

[@XMeK]

That'd be like saying you hate Darth Vader.

[@grateful3300]

Jesus who?

[@Beacon80]

@@grateful3300 Any Jesus. There is not a single Jesus that I hate.

[@grateful3300]

@@Beacon80 👍

[@jackkraken3888]

Nicole is high as a kite.

[@DavidRichardson153]

"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." - Mahatma Ghandi

[@antinatalistwitch111]

Nichole's whole life is been about what she has "heard." Not her own mind and her own critical and analytical thinking...

[@danielrussell9416]

We just see the Jesus story as mythology, just like Paul Bunyan and Johnny Appleseed. We don't hate any of these mythological characters.

[@Specialeffecks]

Hindu to Nicole: Why do you hate Brahman? Scientologist to Nicole: Why do you hate L. Ron Hubbard? Hate Zeus? Hate Amun-Ra? Nicole: Doesn't hate those...doesn't believe.

[@roguebotanist]

Nicole sounds like it would be so easy to convince her Hatty Potter is real.

[@itsaboutthattime4425]

Hatty Potter could be. Harry Potter is fictional tho 🤭

[@loggrad9842]

​@@itsaboutthattime4425 there are actually many real Harry Potters. Plenty of them alive right now.