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Easy Catalan fa vídeos en català per a totes aquelles persones que vulguin aprendre la llengua. En aquest vídeo som a Barcelona, és l'11 de setembre de 2019, diada nacional de Catalunya. Des de fa anys se celebra una manifestació i preguntarem a la gent perquè volen la independència de Catalunya.
La diada nacional de Catalunya, l'11 de setembre, commemora la derrota que els catalans van patir al 1714.
Per a què serveix manifestar-se?
Recordes per què et vas manifestar per primera vegada?
Escriviu-nos als comentaris com us reivindiqueu en els vostres països i per quines causes us heu manifestat.
Easy Catalan makes videos in Catalan for everyone who wants to learn the language. In this video we’re in Barcelona. It is the 11th September 2019, the National Day of Catalonia. For many years people take part in a protest to celebrate this day and we will ask the people why they want Catalan independence.
The National Day of Catalonia, 11th September, commemorates the defeat that the Catalans suffered in 1714.
What purpose does protesting serve?
Do you remember the first time you protested and why?
Write to us in the comments section about how you speak out for what you believe in in your own country and the reasons why you protest?
Nota: Si els entrevistats fan errors, els corregim en els subtítols entre parèntesis.
Note: If the interviewees make mistakes, they will be corrected in the subtitles within brackets.
lo que - el que
allò en el que creus - allò en què creus
lo necessari - el que és necessari
bueno - bé
oportunitats per tothom - oportunitats per a tothom
sempre he cregut de que - sempre he cregut que
que tal, que qual - si això o allò
[heavy] - fort, important, dur...
arrel de la sentència - arran de la sentència
tot lo de l'1 d'octubre - tot allò de l'1 d'octubre
pues això - doncs això
la millor solució per la societat catalana - la millor solució per a la societat catalana
un país més just per ells - un país més just per a ells
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Location: Barcelona, Barcelonès
Host/interviewer: Sílvia
Camera and editing: Joan and Sílvia
Subtitles: Andreu, Laia and Sophie
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[@jay23cr]

Makes it sound like all Catalans want independence; while support for independence is at 41% FOR and 48% AGAINST

[@kiliritongs]

That data is FAKE. You know nothing about it, we voted and 90% voted in favor, even though most votes were lost because of Spanish police who beat everyone they could find on the streets.

[@KLabye]

Escuchando a este fue como escuchando a una mezcla de español, portugués, francés, italiano e latín todos juntos. Guau! Es una linda lenguaje, y ahora estoy muy interesado en aprenderla y también la cultura, la gente y sus dificultades

[@shaide5483]

*lengua (Lenguaje is masculine)

[@SabrinaRene4565]

ANTES DE LEER TU COMENTARIO ESTABA DICIENDO LO MISMO A MI HERMANA 😱

[@ordemeprogresso727]

@@SabrinaRene4565 Spanish people only speaks spanish boring, brazilian portugese is 10x more beautiful than Spanish in Spain.

[@ericmorris1409]

@@ordemeprogresso727 thats your opinion... i personally hate the way portuguese sounds especially the brazilian accent. spanish is prettier

[@RESPUESTAful]

Me aceptaron en la universidad de Girona; soy de Perú. Tengo miedo de no poder comprender el dictado de clases en el idiona Catalan; no obstante, esta comunidad es tan hermosa culturalmente que, quiero intentarlo esforzandome.

[@santakosoundsystem7542]

Es como si vas a estudiar a Corea y tienes miedo de no poder comprender el coreano. No te queda otra que aprenderlo. Lo que no puedes hacer es ir ahí e imponer tu lengua a los demás.

[@robertrodriguezharo1906]

Desconozco el caso de Girona, pero en la mayoría de universidades catalanas los profesores preguntan, al inicio de las clases, si el lenguaje de preferencia del alumnado es el catalán o el castellano. En el caso de no tener opción en ello, la universidad ofrecerá o señalará dónde es posible acudir a cursos, normalmente sin coste, para aprender la lengua. Las instituciones y las comunidades catalanas son siempre muy agradecidas con quiénes tratan de aprender su lengua. Ànims!

[@jesussanchezherrero5659]

@@santakosoundsystem7542 en Corea el español no es cooficial. No tergiverses las cosas, sofista.

[@sergiomontessuarez]

@@santakosoundsystem7542 ¿Dónde pone en el comentario que quiera imponer su lengua? Dios, estáis muy alterados a un nivel que se os escapa el victimismo a la mínima 🤣

[@cristianaminespinosa4093]

Me encantan los catalanes. Los escucho y siento que estuviese viendo un partido de fútbol eterno

[@user-rb3bb7mi3u]

Should be named. "Why some catalans want independence", they have this bad habit of trying to make people think that the mayority of catalans want independence, which is not the case.

[@santakosoundsystem7542]

Catalans want independence. We won the self-determination referendum, but the Spanish violence, and the Catalan leaders' treason against the people will, has stopped the independence process provisionally. Catalan people will fight again, and Catalonia will be free!

[@user-rb3bb7mi3u]

Santako Sound System I am catalán, I do not want independence, I am catalán and spanish, which aré and have always been mutually inclusive.

[@user-rb3bb7mi3u]

Santako Sound System You sound like the typical nationalist supremacist, if you want independence crawl back to your underground cave, and be happy.

[@EduardoCanizalez]

@@user-rb3bb7mi3u Qué bueno, hermano. Hagan ruido ustedes también. No dejen que les pase lo mismo que a nosotros, que siendo parte integral de España nos quitaron nuestra nacionalidad por culpa de gente bruta. Saludos desde América.

[@sergiomontessuarez]

@@santakosoundsystem7542 🥱🥱 you guys repeating the same lies and nonsense over and over are getting boring

[@jipsonantony]

good work

[@altair738]

You really should cover the other side of the story (the anti-independence movement), because you know...neutrality and all that... The title suggests that Catalans "in general" want independence, whereas the reality is very far from being that simple. Given that your goal is to help people learn the language and not to be a mouthpiece for any particular ideology (I hope!), you should be doing a video showing the other viewpoint as well.

[@monoyamono]

They are at a demonstration for catalan independence that's obviously why all the people present want independence. Whatever side you're on, if you watch this video that is evident. This channel has no obligation to show the other side because any intelligent human who knows how to use the internet, like KZbin for example, which you obviously do, you can just look for that other side... and then make up your own mind. Don't demand this channel adapt everything for each individual's tastes. Go out and do the work instead of asking them to do more. They've done enough, and their focus is language so they aren't obliged to offer every side of every story. If it has been a useful way to access and learn the language then it has been a success.

[@altair738]

@@monoyamono> They are at a demonstration for catalan independence that's obviously why all the people present want independence. Whatever side you're on, if you watch this video that is evident. >> Agreed. I've never said anything to the contrary. >This channel has no obligation to show the other side because any intelligent human who knows how to use the internet, like KZbin for example, which you obviously do, you can just look for that other side... and then make up your own mind. >> If they want to solely focus on the language, as you say, then I would argue it is in their interest to keep it neutral (and have an implicit obligation to do so). Of course they don't have the explicit journalistic obligation to be neutral. > Don't demand this channel adapt everything for each individual's tastes. >> That is far from what I implored them to do. >Go out and do the work instead of asking them to do more. >> This is not my primary source of news, thank you. What work are you talking about? >They've done enough, and their focus is language so they aren't obliged to offer every side of every story. If it has been a useful way to access and learn the language then it has been a success. >>I'm not going to repeat my comments above, but I would argue it is in the interests of the Catalan language for people to have a balanced picture. I've been in Catalonia multiple times and know many Catalans ("ethnic" Catalans if you will, as well as Catalan speakers) who are anything but pro-independence. Misrepresenting the situation (as has been done in the title) will only present the wrong picture to potential learners.

[@lincolnlog5977]

I mean the other side is objectively malevolent like China.

[@myerwerl]

Its like a mix of portuguese, spnish and frenchm

[@qrsx66]

But the Catalan language closest cousin is Occitan in southern France (not the French you know.)

[@perrymanso6841]

Well It could be if It wasn't because Catalan language is aprox 180 years older than "Spanish" (Castilian)...

[@joselugo4536]

@@perrymanso6841 bueno podría ser más antiguo si pretendes que todo lo escrito en provenzal es catalán. Sin embargo los documentos demuestran que el catalán es una invención artificial posterior al Esperanto.

[@perrymanso6841]

@@joselugo4536 Catalan language was created in XI century, and comes from Latin. I guess linguists will get some laughs with your claims.

[@joselugo4536]

@@perrymanso6841 as I'm laughing with the Pompeufabrés!🎗🤣

[@ArragatangaSpears]

Moltes gràcies

[@Marcel1969MZ]

Gracias por el vídeo.

[@laram5816]

Para mí Cataluña es Cataluña y España.. m'agrada molt aquesta llèngua i la seua cultura però m'agrada també la llèngua espanyola 😊 Saludos desde Alemania 👋🏻

[@Rolando_Cueva]

Seua. Tú parles valencià oi? Visca Espanya!

[@FerranLorenteV]

@@Rolando_Cueva La meitat de Catalunya diu seua, no us apropieu de del dialecte occidental.

[@gemmasands4321]

Doncs a mi m'agrada més la llèngua alemanya.

[@taleblamaani6012]

Para mi catalunya es espana catalan es dialecto espanol

[@jrclatoba1]

Parece que han conseguido más visualizaciones con este video. El título del video es un topicazo totalmente parcial. Deberían de tratar el tema de una manera más inclusiva.

[@emiliopedrosa5183]

Interesting to see the other point of view. There are several things I'd like to point: 1) independentism is not an ideology but a strong feeling, you either feel it or you don't. 2) some people are saying their reasons for wanting to become a separate state from Spain and most of the reasons are more than reasonable (a more equal country for the people, better control of our taxes, etc), some of the reasons not so much ( political prisoners who are in jail for doing nothing? It takes a lot of nerve to say that. It's unbelievable how a lot of people are buying that lie. The politicians who are in prison have not only broken the constitution, the have also broken the Catalan Parliament laws and have been repeatedly warned their acts would incurr in crime sentences. I don't blame the people for wanting to vote, I blame politicians for lying to citizens and for promising them something that was unattainable. They are not in jail for their ideas, they are in jail for their acts. 3) Spain is a full democracy ( far from perfect of course) where every Spanish citizen has full rights in regards to everything, there is speech freedom, LGBT marriage, etc, etc. 4) Other languages like Catalan, Galician and Basque are official and protected by the Constitution. People study in those languages at school in those regions where they have their own language, there are TV channels, radio stations, press, books, films etc in those languages. I don't think that happens with regional languages in many Europeran states. Come to think about Italy, France and Germany for instance and regional languages are not so well taken care of and encouraged. 5) The title should be; why does a part of Catalan society want independence? The title implies everyone in Catalonia wants to secede when it isn't the case

[@iliasbaker3870]

D'on ets? Ho dic per curiositat? De donde eres? Lo digo por curiosidad

[@emiliopedrosa5183]

@@iliasbaker3870 soy de Málaga

[@sylviam4455]

Totally agree and I am Catalan. Many Catalan people do not want independence.

[@emiliopedrosa5183]

@Chexa gracias a ti Chexa, sólo es mi opinión pero quería compartirla porque me parece que el vídeo no es en absoluto imparcial

[@taleblamaani6012]

actually catalan is a spanish dialect with some words of french in it

[@ritajn1689]

Gran "feina" Sílvia, gràcies pel vídeo!

[@e.c.3991]

Moltes gràcies Rita! :)

[@ferranmateo4803]

Thank you very much. It is appreciated that someone, in this case this platform and you in particular, expose a language that in Europe is still unknown. It is the 9th most spoken language in the European Union with more than 10 million speakers. I think that the European institutions should encourage people to know more about it instead of hiding it as the Spanish authorities do.

[@BillDeef]

Ten million speakers! We know where that number was pulled out of.

[@sergiomontessuarez]

The Spanish authorities are not hiding any of the spoken languages in the country. You should leave that paralel universe you seem to live in.

[@wanderleyalves7136]

Yo voy a aprender hablar catalán. 👋👍👍🏼👍🏿

[@liriosilvestre7644]

Jo també

[@e.c.3991]

@@liriosilvestre7644 i @wanderley alves esperem que amb els nostres vídeos pugueu aprendre una mica més de català ;) A més a més, ens podeu seguir a les xarxes socials: Facebook: facebook.com/EasyCatalan/ Twitter: twitter.com/EasyCatalan i Instagram: instagram.com/easycatalanvideos/

[@taleblamaani6012]

en realidad catalán es un dialecto español con algunas palabras de francés

[@gabriel_of_spain]

@@taleblamaani6012 jajajajajajajajaja en serio..?

[@herman1francis]

@@taleblamaani6012 el català és una llengua que data del segle XI sent el seu text més antic lo jurament de Radulf. El català és una llengua que té més a veure amb l'occità que amb el castellà. And you are an ignorant

[@raphaelbernardo8190]

Jo soc de Filipines. Aprenc català. Quan vaig a començar estudiar el català, es parla de aquest tema. Vull aprendre-ho perquè vull coneixer la cultura catalana, però crec que no puc evitar aquest tema. Sóc neutral.

[@diegonayalazo]

Gràcies

[@orestes67]

Me encanta esta idioma. Quiero estudiar alla. Buena suerte a la gente de Catalonia.

[@user-oi5nf2dk5c]

Catalans, take care. God bless you.

[@dieGeigerin]

As far as I know, Catalan is strongly taught in schools and universities as any other autonomous language and is widely used. I see much exaggerated claims in the video...

[@sammumoo8186]

Yeah (: I made a friend who's on Erasmus, she told me that she studied Catalan at her uni, and I spoke with her. Her level wasn't the best - but hey! She had the intent of learning it and understood what I said when I spoke!

[@iliasbaker3870]

Alguna vegada has considerat que hi ha una chance xiqueta que "el que tu saps" no sigui la veritat?

[@RafitoMembroza]

Own police, parliament, health system and a large etcetera.

[@matte9076]

there are only 10 million speakers. hardly a 'widely used' language.

[@Ghaek17]

In the high school I had 30 academical hours (25 hours in Catalan, 3 in English and 2 in Spanish) and I think it's the same for all schools in Catalonia

[@Chinookdog]

Molt bé, gràcies per gravar aquest vídeo molt important!

[@lovemorenk6501]

Puedo perceber un poco

[@LifetimeTravelmates]

en el fons, és un tema de monarquia vs república. així de clar.

[@jangofett7857]

Cada uno lo haceis por un motivo. Pero la razón principal es que Cataluña es la región más rica después de Madrid y no quereis.ser solidarios con regiones mas pobres como Extremadura. Esa es la razón principal.

[@LifetimeTravelmates]

@@jangofett7857 creo que la mayoría de los catalanes no tienen problema en ser solidarios con las comunidades más pobres. Catalunya es muy solidaria. Pero tener un estado central que decide cosas que Catalunya haría de otra forma es lo que les hace querer ser independientes. La familia real, el gasto militar, el poco interés en la diversidad cultural...el unionismo no va con España.

[@jangofett7857]

@@LifetimeTravelmates Poco interes en la diversidad cultural? ¡¡¡Pero si España es la unica nación de Europa donde te pueden multar por rotular tu negocio en español!!! Creeme que España es posiblemente el pais que mas protege su diversidad cultural. -Te quejas del gasto del ejercito pero te parece bien pagar a todo un nuevo cuerpo como son los Mossos d'Escuadra. Además que el gasto en ejercito de españa comparado con naciones similares es infimo. -La corona apenas tiene poder, eso me parece algo sentimental mas que racional. Sin embargo en cataluña se obliga a los niños a dar las clases en catalán y los pobres están deseando salir al recreo para poder hablar en español. O hablar en español con sus amigos, sus canales de youtube...Vosotros sois los que no respetais la diversidad cultural de cataluña, queriendo imponer una cultura y forma de pensar uniforme. Y a este paso se separa antes Tabarnia de Cataluña que Cataluña de España

[@albertperez2375]

@@jangofett7857 mentira es porque catalunya es una nación con su lengua, cultura, tradiciones propias que queremos proteger si se hubiese dado más autonomia a Catalunya y hubiera menos odio sin sentido hacia nuestra cultura ya que muchos españoles piensan que es un capricho y que eso de hablar catalan lo hacemos por joder(los mismos que dicen "estamos en españa y se habla en español" porque creen que mandan ellos) seria otra cosa pero ya es demasiado tarde, +de 300 años imponiendo y diciendo como tenemos que actuar y pensar y cuando hacemos algo que está mal visto nos autocorregimos nosotros mismos como si fuera malo ser català! Cada uno que sea como quiera y que respete a los demás.Si la gente de catalunya NO se siente española (como tu no te sientes francés o italiano) entonces se tendría que independizar y ya está! podemos ser amigos igual siendo païses vecinos lo que muchos politicos quieren confrontación porque el odio les beneficia electoralmente.

[@joselugo4536]

Repitiendo las estupideces del Romanticismo Alemán que nos regaló 2 Guerras Mundiales, por seguir los sentimientos......⚔💀😂🤣

[@iliasbaker3870]

Hi ha una versió sense subtítols?

[@e.c.3991]

No, de moment no oferim la versió sense subtítols. Potser més endavant hi haurà aquesta possibilitat, igual com fan altres Co-Producers en els seus Patreons.

[@monoyamono]

Tapa el fondo de la pantalla con la "mà" y au.

[@felipepinheiro82]

No soy catalan pero tengo mucha simpatia por la causa independentista catalana. Vosotros tienen una cultura, una historia, una lengua proprias y merecen la libertad de poder manifestarse y demonstrar sus opiniones en un plebiscito. Aqui en Brasil siempre que puedo veo la TV3 de Catalunya en my smart TV y acompaño lo que está pasando por ahi. Quería que los brasileños salieran tanto a las calles a protestar, asi como lo hacen los catalanes. Fuerte abrazo, amigos!

[@taleblamaani6012]

en realidad catalán es un dialecto español con algunas palabras de francés

[@herman1francis]

@@taleblamaani6012 false

[@warriortown8742]

Normal que siendo de otro país sientas simpatía por un movimiento que debilitaría a nivel internacional a otro país y una de sus provincias... Imagínate que tu país se parte en 2. A ti como brasileño te dolería. Pero seguro que alguien como tú en otro país se alegraría de quitarse de en medio a un país y competidor como Brasil.

[@davidsoriavalls3466]

@@taleblamaani6012 falso

[@joselugo4536]

No soy brasileño pero tengo mucha simpatía por cualquier movimiento secesionista en Río Grande do Sul.

[@masterjunky863]

1:11 So us Italians aren't the only people tha use that gesture.

[@ControlledCha0s]

😁😁😁

[@PetitSucreBlau]

Raó: purament cultural❤

[@xushenxin]

I feel very strange. The reporter should ask do you want to do die for it?

[@MajorMlgNoob]

Why would they? Spain is still democratic it's more of a move due to frustration with Madrid than real oppression like there was in the 20th Century

[@buzfatih]

Europe always supports kurdish people when they protest in Turkey..But they dont do that for catalan people..Kurdish party's some kurdish deputies in the jail right now in the same way like catalan deputies. And European Union is just talking about for kurds..Eu is definetly hypocritical..And finally,i read a comment.Someone asks this question to channel; (Why do you bring politics into a language learning channel? ) I wanna give him or her an answer; I tried so hard to write my comment:)And İ learned a word; deputy;) So,why not?

[@jangofett7857]

Maybe is because Catalan independence movement is based on a sham. And European Union parliament is a serious parliament

[@javierangulo4224]

That´s simplifying the matter. Catalonia is a region where individual freedom is recognized, and one of the most autonomous regions in the world. Of course, they could have a more autonomous fiscal system, which is the mayor opression issue for independentists. On the other hand, I think very dangerous to take decisions based in the result or a referendum which don´t go over 60%. That would be the case for Catalonia. Yet, the right of selfdetermination should be aplied, but this may cause a larger problem for Catalonia. What if independence is hugely refused by Barcelona and mayor urban areas (what is expected) for example? With which autority would the new state impose their rule over non independentist voters? Wouldn´t it be the sourse for a larger problem of stability within Catalonia? Attending to economic issues, rich regions always claim to be contributing in larger proportion to the state, but they benefit on the free market, free movement and financial statal system more than other regions. An alternative is recognizing Catalonia as a free state within the European Union, but the inclusion of another little state would do the decision making even more difficult in the current european political system, and given the case that independentists don´t want to cede sovereingty, isn´t that a problem for the development of a solid and legitimate political system for Europe? Wouldn´t it be a dangerous precedent for the balcanization of Europe?

[@joselugo4536]

A parasitic society cannot become independent, the oligarchy of Barcelona needs to extort the rest of Spain, as much as leeches need blood.

[@marcuschen786]

Soy un taiwanés desconocido que pasa....

[@perotrocaguinarda8977]

Molt bon vídeo..!! Els catalans, com qualsevol nació, aspiren a la seva plenitud. Això inclou la independència, obviament. La solució: un referendum, que ja vam fer el 2017, i que es va guanyar amb un 90% de vots favorables. Punt.

[@Fahmbo]

are you SURE? Where's your army. Being a country is hard work people.

[@santakosoundsystem7542]

We have been occupied and dominated for 300 years. So it's not easy at all for us to behave as free people and build our own free country. But we are doing our best and will never give up.

[@perrymanso6841]

Your lack of logic is astonishing, how can you create an army BEFORE having a country? You must be dense boy...

[@nbcn]

This is a completely misleading title. Although there’s a big support for independence, the number of Catalans who are against is higher. As of January 2021, the percentage of Catalans who supported independence stood at a 43% and I’d say it’s never gone over the 50%. It’s a big support, but not enough for this heading. Please, be rigorous!

[@jay6science]

Well, I guess these percentages are only estimations, and they are pretty close to 50-50 anyway. Maybe if Spain would allow to ask them, we would actually know what are the real percentages...

[@sergiomontessuarez]

@@jay6science Surveys exist for a reason... They're where the last percentages come from

[@disbauxa]

Que sí, que sí... no t'enrecordes del 52%?

[@gearoiddom]

Parlen molt rapid.

[@shobarsch]

Yes, and that's why these Easy Languages videos are almost useless for beginners

[@e.c.3991]

Hola Gary, no et preocupis, tenim els vídeos SuperEasy que són ideals: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iH3EaKB8qb-dg9k :)

[@Ballykeith]

Was Catalan ever brought to the Americas?

[@PedroArRoyo-di2mu]

Obviously not. Only Spanish, even though many Spanish people from Catalonia migrated to America for making money

[@Omar100Traveler]

Hay que evitar mezclar la política con ese canal el cual su objetivo es aprender idiomas y pasarlo bien. Cada un@ tiene derecho de pensar en lo que quiere, pero no mezclarlo cob este canal

[@taleblamaani6012]

en realidad catalán es un dialecto español con algunas palabras de francés

[@herman1francis]

@@taleblamaani6012 false

[@davidsoriavalls3466]

@@taleblamaani6012 falso

[@adribleunoir501]

Je me sens plus chez moi en Catalogne et en Occitanie que à Lyon par exemple.

[@danielan980]

Por qué? Todo bien chez toi?

[@alvarolorenzo3728]

Cuando mezclas el aprendizaje de una lengua con trasfondo político ideológico es cuando creas estereotipos. Creo que hay muchas cosas bonitas en el mundo para tener contenido de calidad y precisamente la política no lo es. Pulgar abajo.

[@user-ik4wk8gz9v]

Once there was a choice to learn Spanish or Portuguese. I asked many people what language they would choose. There were always an answer Spanish. Than I asked what for? They said it's widly spread. Than I asked what country they would choose to live besides Spain. And guess what?! Nobody was able to name at least one. Then I started to learn Portuguese. And never since regret. I wish the catalans to start their own state.

[@qrsx66]

If you're interested in language learning don't always go for the most spoken if you love languages, because you're participating in the extinction of language diversity. Tibetan, Kurdish, Tamil, Cantonese, Catalan, Lanna... await you.

[@sergiomontessuarez]

@@qrsx66 the Catalan language is not even close to extinction when there are roughly 10 million of speakers lol

[@occihum9115]

@@sergiomontessuarez That's a lie!! The native speakers of Catalan are 4 million! 10 million include those who are learning it as a foreign language

[@sergiomontessuarez]

@@occihum9115 I mean, people living in Catalonia, the Valencian Community, Balearic Islands and Andorra alone are more than 10 million, and most of them know Catalan to some extent. If they have been born in these places, they are taught the language at schools

[@occihum9115]

@@sergiomontessuarez That's the problem with Catalan Nationalists like you, that assume that number of people from these autonomias equals the number of Catalan speakers! No! From Balearic only Mallorca speaks Catalan, same goes with northern Valencia too. Not to mention coastal Catalonia is hispanophone mostly.

[@robinnewton5757]

Per què no parleu amb els catalans que no volen la independència? També seria bo saber que en pensen. It's a shame this video is so biased. There are many Catalans who don't want independence and it would be good to hear their views too.

[@burcuercan]

Can someone explain me about catalan matter? Im turkish , is too difficult to understand me catalan matter

[@joselugo4536]

It's as if the Kurds establish a republic inside Turkey, because they feel to be different, and all the expenses for being independent will be paid by Ankara.

[@qrsx66]

There are Catalans in Spain and also in Southern France. They love their culture and language and identity wich has been severely erased in France, a very centralized state, and under severe repression in Spain, with a bad history with both the monarchy and Francism. But they defended better their rights in the south and don't want to be forever maintained and limited by this status quo where they always always have to fight against Spanish linguistic pressure, against the monarchy and Spanish governement manipulations to limit their potential to express their will as a free society. And I support the Kurdish cause and their fight for their rights too.

[@joselugo4536]

Not a chance inside the European Union.😂🤣

[@herman1francis]

@@joselugo4536 it doesn't matter. As long as spain goes to shit and everyone in it suffers greatly and in total misery everything is fine.

[@joselugo4536]

As long as a socialist regime bent on marginalizing the society by gender, class and ethnic origin, nothing good will come from that.

[@joseramonpr]

La Diada used to be the day of Catalonia but right now is a demonstration of people who support the independence. Not even 50% of the catalans support the independent, this video is not very objective

[@jaskatpon1]

Recently i met a Spanish guy from Madrid and we discussed a little on Spanish and Catalan politics. He says that Catalans purposely protests whenever they need to achieve political objectives like extracting more money from Madrid. He also told that basque government is very good compared to Catalan government in the sense they negotiate well with Madrid for budget money, level of autonomy and non interference from Madrid government and basque government are financially disciplined and Basque Country is generally more prosperous than other provinces of Spain.

[@ferranmateo4803]

To begin with, the Basques have their own taxation, that is, they collect and then decide to give a share to Spain. In Catalonia it's the other way around, it's the Spanish State that decides what stays and what it invests in. And for two years now the Catalan economy has been completely controlled and audited, giving zero autonomy to invest in what we want. So before making comparisons you should understand them.

[@user-gi2op5gl1m]

If you support Hong Kong, you should also support the freedom of self-resolution of Cataluña

[@iliasbaker3870]

Doesn't surprise me that he's from Madrid then

[@jaskatpon1]

Ferran Mateo I guess different Spanish people have different political views. I haven’t yet met a Catalan or basque people and heard their political views. Would love to hear their views and comments. Why don’t Madrid agree to give Catalunya the same autonomy given to Basque Country?

[@jaskatpon1]

hengyulin 2000 Do you think the political situation is the same in Hong Kong as in Spain? I feel you are comparing apples with oranges.

[@Thefutureis96]

O my Gosh Catalan sounds like Portuguese. Am I right?

[@mauropedrosa7317]

As a Portuguese speaker (from Portugal) the accent is ridiculously similar, but the words are different enough that I have a hard time understanding it. Reading it is much much easier

[@juliuscaesar7795]

Same for me. Also I get some north Italy accent, somehow

[@Rabidanti]

Catalan Politicians and Catalan citzens should come up with a proposal of an independence referendum BY PROVINCES. The Spanish State would accept that, but y'all could lose Barcelona 👀👀

[@joselugo4536]

And in that scenario Barcelona would lose Tabarnia.

[@herman1francis]

@@joselugo4536 tabarnia doesn't exist. Just like the castillian empire doesn't exist either

[@joselugo4536]

Do you mean as non-existent as French speakers inside the United States of America?😂🤣Actually there are more French teachers than students enrolled to learn the French language! That's beyond of pathetic!

[@herman1francis]

@@joselugo4536 hey at least france has it's own money and doesn't need to have the eu's cock deep inside their ass like spain is gonna be after the coronavirus. You are so stupid that all you are good for is to be bar waiters. And now that there is no tourism you will all be unemployed xDDDDD

[@joselugo4536]

Are you talking about the country that keep in its Bank the entire currency of African ex-colonies? With what moral high ground?😂🤣

[@user-fl1dc9ju3g]

Interesting, in my universe, only "balearic islands" are independent as "Catalonia" and Argentina+Catalonia are "Catalophone".

[@johanneskiefer6912]

Thank you, great topic to cover, I've always wanted to hear what people in the street, not the Catalan politicians, think about it. I personally agree on the claim for independence as a region in general, but this is only 'cause I think that the whole of Europe should function that way: European Union for bigger topics like trade deals, defence and overall governance, but other rights should obviously lie in the hands of the regional governments. With that system implemented, we could get rid of the Nation states, which have never properly functioned, led to great damage for the continent and the world and still maintain a strong, solidaric Union as a whole. When I look at the world and Europe right now though, it seems like to me that the overall populace isn't yet ready for that, so I'd like to encourage the Catalan people to endure this current state as long as we have no real better alternative like a reformed EU in sight! Thank you for reading.:)

[@roboman2445]

Gollum Mullog EU should only be an alliance not a government making rules. All European peoples should have independence, divided among both tribal, cultural, and philosophy differences. For instance if half population wants free market and right to own guns, and other half wants regulation and strict rules, split the land give half to each so both can live the way they want to. European nations would then all form a alliance with all of Europe and new European nations like USA, Canada, Australia. And this alliance is for defense and war only, no EU or UN making rules, just one that focuses on core aging military if the west or our allies are ever attacked. European people do too much for the world and for minorities, it's tome Europeans and westerners start to look after our own. Europe should only care about Europe, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel and our allies like Japan, South Korea, etc. the rest of world we should let burn for all I care, only invest your energy in people who share your cultural values and ethics

[@fjcsmix]

Easy languages no deberia permitir videos de indóle político. El video representa parte de la ciudadania de Cataluña, es realmente irritante, sobre todo el lenguaje belico tan innecesario como "lucha contra el gobierno español" "somos una colonia" "bestialidades contra los catalanes" Catalunya is the richest region of Spain, and with levels of autonomy never seen in Europe. Even so, some mediocre politicians helped by a victimizing discourse have managed to DIVIDE and POLARIZE. NO MORE POLITICAL VIDEOS BY EASY LANGUAGES!!!

[@taleblamaani6012]

Catalonia is poor of resources

[@gerardovelazquez346]

I do understand what there saying is so close to Spanish

[@EdwardRock1]

👨🏾🇲🇽

[@petearan]

You only asked independentist (42%) about independence!! Not fair!!

[@aidsandcheese5834]

idk man the language gives me anxiety

[@perlyax]

It's simple. The spanish constitution states that the territory it's indivisible, so anything made towards a division of territory is against the constitution.

[@folkloricogeek1]

Igual que aquí als Estats, de vegades em pregunto si sent "progovernamental", però al mateix temps per a una societat justa, quan l'expresident Trump era president, va causar l'infern per a mi i altres, així que per a mi m'agradaria estar en un lloc on veure on també podrien altres països.

[@Lampchuanungang]

Si kataloy vle endepandans li dwe negosye ak Òganizasyon Trete Nò Atlantik ak Inyon Ewopeyen an ak nan kou gen sipò nan men lòt rejyon tankou Valencia, Aragon, Aran, Mallorca. Lòt rejyon ki pale katalan pou kont yo difisil. Epi Katalan yo gen idantite kiltirèl yo fòme. Andorra ta dwe entèsede ak Nasyonzini ak Òganizasyon Trete Nò Atlantik pou endepandans rejyon sa yo ansanm. Otorite kataloy yo dwe gen plis pridans pou yo gen sipò nasyonal nasyonal sitou sipò entènasyonal pou pwopoze kreyasyon yon nouvo peyi. Bondye ede kataloy nan vwayaj endepandans sa a.

[@mrr3808]

Creo que tendrías que preocuparte por tu país, España es sólo una nación. Deja de decir estupideces

[@Sophusq]

Fun fact my last name is barcelona

[@Rabidanti]

Spain Is one. And it is a democratic and free country. Even though lot of Catalans say it isn't. I haven't been to Catalunya yet. But I have been to Basque country, Galicia, Andalucia and Madrid. And even though I can spot some differences (specially from north-south) it is still Spain and it will ever be. Catalunya in the past was a political and identity fight. Nowadays they can speak Catalan, they even had an 'embassy' in Brussels. Nowadays it is more than anything an economical fight. Let's face it, was Spain as rich as Germany the Catalans would never want independence in 2019. However I think they need a referendum on independence though, but they should do it by provinces. Like the one that Canada did on Quebec. And one more thing, people saying that Spain is a dictatorship because of the trahison laws clearly know nothing, because Germany, and all other democracies in Europe have similar laws too!! In Germany if you do what the Catalan leaders did you would get jailed and nobody would say nothing. And by the way, Catalunya has a public TV channel (TV3) that is 100% against the Spanish State and that basically preaches independentism 24/7 even if it includes fake news. Needless to say that a TV like this would never be publicly financed by the public in most democratic countries.

[@taleblamaani6012]

actually catalan is a spanish dialect with some words of french in it

[@MrJosu.]

@@taleblamaani6012 qué pesao eres Taleb. Que noooo

[@just1frosty516]

I hope someday Catalonia is it’s own country❤️

[@erminiopreziosi1967]

I hope Southern Itály will go back to the Kingdom of 2 sicilies we are neapolitans not italians

[@sergiomontessuarez]

Then take a sit and be ready to wait :)

[@taleblamaani6012]

Your country won the world cup of football in 2010

[@osmanemral6092]

Los españoles y catalanes son hermanos por eso deben unirse debajo de la bandera española.Ojala Cataluña siga siendo una parte de España para siempre

[@herman1francis]

I què passa si no volem?

[@rdkdkf5032]

@@herman1francis 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@herman1francis]

@@rdkdkf5032 no pots obligar per la força a algú a estar amb tu. Això no és unió és coerció. Els catalans hem de decidir si volem formar part d'espanya o no.

[@joselugo4536]

Sorry Herman Göring but there's not a right to secession.

[@claraartnow6645]

Aquesta frase és una contradicció. Imagina't que algú digués: "els catalans i els espanyols som germans i per això ens hem d'unir sota la bandera catalana". Que no veus que si fas servir una per les dues, suprimeixes l'altra?

[@Rolando_Cueva]

Visca Catalunya. Viva España.

[@user-rb3bb7mi3u]

Because we are racist, but it is not nice to say that in public.

[@matiascolom5420]

Agraesc aquest video. Es un tema del que calia parlar en aquest canal perquè és ara de primeríssima actualitat per Catalunya.

[@jexpiperUK]

No "catalans", només els independentistes catalans, hi ha una gran diferència.

[@jangofett7857]

Check out what Tabarnia is

[@fakierre]

una broma

[@fakierre]

Jajjajaj mentirosooo no hay partido politico de los bobos tabarneses. Cuentos para tontos.

[@jangofett7857]

@@fakierre Tabarnia Libre. Se presenta a las próximas elecciones autonomicas.

[@jangofett7857]

@@fakierre Aunque creo que le pasará como a los partidos Valenciamos tipo "Avant" que no sacarán representación parlamentatia.

[@fakierre]

@@jangofett7857 jajjajajajjajajajjajajajajajjajajajajajajjajajajajajajajajjajajajajaja votales!!!😂😂😂😂

[@mcvalm]

Why do you bring politics into a language learning channel?

[@emiliopedrosa5183]

Bad decision I would say

[@originalmix2546]

Good decision, it is relevant

[@carloswhisper1281]

It's also immersion. I rather have words and concepts given to me that way so I can grasp faster. If this video impacts you that much, then come up with an opinion but in catalan.

[@emiliopedrosa5183]

@@janelane9281 Everything in life is affected by politics, I agree with that. But a language channel trying to teach Catalan has so many topics to talk about rather than a delicate matter like the independence aspirations of a part of Catalan society. It's their channel and they can do whatever they think it's best, but in my opinion the topic is a bad choice. Also, it's sad they only interviewed independentists and no unionists (which are around slightly more than half the population).

[@Weeraphat13]

I expected a shit show but it's a good way to learn words about politics and social life I think

[@outsidenow4821]

Visca Barca Visca Catalunya

[@enriquevega4480]

On ethics and moral grounds the holder of sovereignity is the spanish people as a whole

[@herman1francis]

Please develop this ethical rule of centralism which doesn't allow the different nations within spain to decide their political future.

[@joselugo4536]

As an example of ethical rule is France, where there is One Language. And any département is free to leave.

[@santakosoundsystem7542]

The holder of sovereignity is the king. The inhabitants of the Kingdom of Spain have never been sovereign citizens, but serfs of the king.

[@ryzxn.bacon1874]

Dic que necessitem la independència perquè parlem una llengua diferent. Kosovo també té la seva independència en la meva opinió que això no és just

[@BillDeef]

Bona idea! i europa acabarà tenint milers de petits països diferents. Tens una idea de cuantes "idiomes" hi ha en tota l'europa? Que pot anar mal? Als yankees agraderà molt.

[@sergiomontessuarez]

A Kosovo no lo reconocen ni la mitad de los países del mundo. En mi opinión no debería existir como país independiente, no tiene una cultura propia ni diferenciada. Deberían ser parte de Albania y ya. Por otro lado, hablar un idioma adicional diferente al español no impide que no podáis formar parte de España. ¿Cómo puede Suiza existir como un único ente teniendo cuatro idiomas oficiales entonces? Qué locura, ¿no?

[@joseriosamaro1078]

Mentiras, tergiversación, absurdez, falsificación y control de masas. Pero bueno.

[@g.o.9072]

Me as a outsider.. im Turkish... i think the catalans could be more descendants from the germanic westgots... may be thats why they have this language.. but it is so similar to spanish and latin languageas... that i think and consider it as a spanish dialect.. nothing more... even portuguese is like a dialect only .. also spanish.. in the latin familiy.. i think genetically.. portuguese are more celtic iberians... spanish are more iberians and catalans are more germanic iberians... and basque are basque hahhaha

[@occihum9115]

As a turk, go back to your mosque

[@suevialania]

Because they are a Nation!🇵🇹👍🏻

[@freddykrueger709]

Of course, they are Spanish ;)

[@perrymanso6841]

@@freddykrueger709 nope, they're Catalan.

[@freddykrueger709]

@@perrymanso6841 Catalonia = Spanish region

[@perrymanso6841]

@@freddykrueger709 Spain is an empire and regions are just a thing to not let people revolt. Catalonia has nothing to do with Spain, since Spain is mainly a Castilian hegemony trying to delete every other nation inside Spain. So pls, keep your BS to yourself thx.

[@johannfer7073]

@@freddykrueger709 no

[@axelespinoza29]

Post que se Independizen HAHA Que se unant a FranceAfrica!

[@nicolastxilin-belarra441]

Ostres, el q em faltava trobar a youtube, l'independència de Catalunya tu😭😭😂😂 i el ns q dels presos...

[@nicolastxilin-belarra441]

Ta zergatik ez duzue euskarazko bideorik egiten eh?

[@marcelohurtadocespedes1152]

Hablad Castellano gente. Hablad Castellano gente.

[@alexandregomezz]

que

[@danielan980]

Hablen español*

[@judna1]

Em sorprèn que ningú comenti que hi ha una raó històrica al darrere. Ens van robar la nostra llibertat el dia 11 de setembre de 1714, i ens pertoca recuperar-la. Tenim la nostra cultura, som una nació, per tant, mereixem l'autonomia i el reconeixement respectiu.

[@harvardodonnell]

Aquest és un error molt comú. Crec que has d'estudiar millor la Guerra de successió espanyola. Els catalans van jurar lleialtat primer al rei Borbó, que va jurar les lleis catalanes en 1701. Posteriorment, anglesos i holandesos van atacar Barcelona en 1704 perquè no volien que França tingués tant poder i van donar suport a l'candidat Habsburg, però la població catalana no es va revoltar fins a 1705 quan va desembarcar l'Arxiduc Carles. Llavors els catalans es van dividir en dos bàndols (com va passar en tot el territori hispànic): el Borbó i el Habsburg (Madrid, Granada, Múrcia, Santander o La Corunya també estaven en el bàndol Habsburg). En 1714 l'exèrcit borbònic (que comptava amb catalans també) va assetjar la ciutat de Barcelona, ​​que estava defensada per austriacistes catalans, navarresos, valencians, castellans, etc. L'Arxiduc Carles va abandonar als catalans i Felip V va implantar els Decrets de Nova Planta a Castella, els regnes d'Aragó, València i Mallorca, i el Principat de Catalunya, premiant als bascos i navarresos per haver-li donat suport i reconeixent els seus privilegis i el seu règim foral. En resum: no tots els catalans eren austriacistes i els que ho eren van perdre la guerra al costat dels austriacistes dels altres territoris. És a dir, aquests catalans van lluitar per un rei d'Espanya, no per la independència i van perdre els seus privilegis per estar en el bàndol que va perdre la guerra... PD: estic a favor del referèndum i crec que Catalunya és una nació, com tantes nacions que hi ha dins de molts països europeus

[@judna1]

@@harvardodonnell Tot això ja ho sé, el que vull dir és que fins llavors, les relacions eren d'alïats. Quan dic que vam pedre la independència, em refereixò a l'aplicació del decret de nova planta obviament. Però no anava a explicar tota la guerra de successió, resumidament, l'11 de setembre de 1714, al perdre la guerra, va ser el dia en què tot va canviar. Això és el que em refereixo. Tot i així, gràcies per exposar algunes de les raons històriques de les que jo mencionava.

[@harvardodonnell]

@@judna1 Castella, Aragó, Navarra, Catalunya, etc. no eren aliats exactament, perquè no existien els Estats ni les nacions en aquest moment, sinó les monarquies. Aliats eren els reis de Portugal i Anglaterra, però no els regnes i territoris hispànics, perquè tenien una mateixa corona, encara que sí que és cert que dins de "les Espanyes" hi havia regions amb més privilegis que en cap altre lloc del món sota un mateix rei (el bo que tenien els Habsburg és que van respectar aquestes divisions internes, encara que a poc a poc van anar desapareixent: les Corts catalanes van perdre el seu poder fins a quedar reduïdes a pràcticament la Generalitat, que antigament era una institució amb molt menys poder que l'actual), fins i tot a Amèrica no hi havia colònies pròpiament dites, sinó virregnats, considerats iguals que els territoris peninsulars amb un virrei al capdavant. A més a més, el rei d'Espanya té des de Joana d'Aragó i de Castella (mal coneguda com la boja), el títol de comte (en aquest cas comtessa) de Barcelona, ​​amb la qual cosa no pot existir aquesta "aliança", ja que tot estava sota el poder de la corona, que supervisava els assumptes de les diferents corts (Castella, Navarra, Catalunya, Aragó ...) i aquestes estaven supeditades sempre al poder reial Després de la Guerra de Successió es van crear les Corts dels Regnes d'Espanya (Corts Generals de la Monarquia), sumant-se totes les corts en una sola (excepte les Corts de Navarra), i representades 6-7 ciutats d'Aragó, 6-7 de Catalunya, 2-3 de València i 1-2 per part de Mallorca. És a dir, que no es va perdre totalment la independència de tots els territoris, sinó que es va agrupar al conjunt. De fet, un segle després, en les Corts de Cadis, quan es va redactar la primera Constitució d'Espanya, 22 eren representants catalans, i van ser molt Importants, amb exemples com Ramon Lázaro Dou com a primer president o Antonio Capmany i Montpalau, partidari de l'abolició de la Inquisició Perdó per tant text, és que el tema em fascina i porto estudiant la història de Catalunya des de 2011 :)

[@judna1]

@@harvardodonnell Tranquil, el tema m'interessa, de fet, pensava que havia posat les cometes a alïats he revisat ara i he vist que no hi són. Amb això tens raó, estic d'acord.

[@fakierre]

@@harvardodonnell els catalans anaven amb carles perque respectava la cultura i llengua locals. Qui anava amb el borbó son els mateixos d'ara.

[@pasteurv12]

"Som una colònia [...]", wow. These people are lucky that there is a state over their heads. If they suceed to secede, I wish them luck. Personally, I will be laughing very well, thinking of how remarkably la-la land of a political hoax they fell for. And of course, both parts having to pay for this bilateral bankruptcy-sized circus.

[@monoyamono]

"Lucky they have that state over their heads"? Like lucky that the police came out to bash the heads of old women who just wanted the right to peacefully vote and have their voice heard, right? I wonder how you'd feel if someone in a uniform of that state pushed YOUR grandma down the stairs. Maybe then would be a good time to see how "lucky" you think they are...

[@pasteurv12]

@@monoyamono don't get over yourself, my friend. I haven't said a word about the violence that has been taking place. Let alone old women. If you'd like to talk about them, I'm not really interested

[@qrsx66]

How many countries have their national day being an "independance day ?" So on what ground what others obtained should be denied to them specifically ?

[@pedrod6768]

Oh, please. You American people have no feelings nor common sense; we're having now a really bad situation here, in Spain, and you, an American lenguage learning chanel, make a video about Catalonia's independence. Did you know this is a very tough political, social and national situation? Many people have died because of this. This is very sad for Spain. You don't care about us: the (following your criteria) stupid Spain. You should just make videos about language learning, not political conflicts. 😠😠😠🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸

[@oscarfajardo5323]

Si tanto pelean por el imperialismo hispánico, no deberían poner los subtítulos en español.

[@manuelgerman1426]

Los subtítulos están en inglés y catalán

[@oscarfajardo5323]

@@manuelgerman1426 Por eso, si esta bien el imperialismo Ingles pero esta muy mal el hispanico, por lo menos mas personas cercanas a la situacion lo entenderian.

[@manuelgerman1426]

@@oscarfajardo5323 el canal es más dirigido hacia el público angloparlante, no tiene nada que ver con política sino con visitas y subscribirse

[@user-fl1dc9ju3g]

This channel is not for encouraging catalan independence. is for learning languages.

[@lucadellalombardia9055]

W free Catalonia!

[@suevialania]

Republic of CATALONIA!!!