Why do North Korean defectors keep changing their stories?

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@Liz-uv3fz
@Liz-uv3fz Жыл бұрын
First, she said her father died in a prison camp, then she said he died while trying to escape to China, then she said he died in the middle of the forest while trying to escape to Mongolia, then she said he got sick in a prison camp and shortly after he was released he died of disease. She gave four different iterations of how one man died. Her father actually died of cancer shortly after being reunited with her in China. That’s the true story.
@Therizinosaurus
@Therizinosaurus 10 ай бұрын
What an amazing liar. She's good at making things up, I'll give her that. She's good at telling fictional story. She's a racist piece of shid too. In one of the podcast, she said she doesn't date Korean cause they all look the same (like her brother).
@stevenbaksh5545
@stevenbaksh5545 9 ай бұрын
The regime claims her father was jailed in 2008 with another woman for human trafficking they claim the photo she has with her father and her taken in China is doctored. So who knows how her father actually died and where he actually died
@lightweightjive
@lightweightjive 3 жыл бұрын
The most glaring detail difference was that originally she escaped with her dad, and later she said it was her mom when the part of the rape her mother took to save her was grafted in- a much more emotion-provoking iteration.
@gla9322
@gla9322 3 жыл бұрын
Her dad was imprisoned for smuggling copper and her mother is a liar
@lightweightjive
@lightweightjive 3 жыл бұрын
@@gla9322 are you implying that they are lying about her? That her story is mostly true?
@StreetDrilla
@StreetDrilla 2 жыл бұрын
i dont remember escaping with her dad part, i remember her stories from long ago but if i remember correctly the father was either executed or serving a sentence in some labor camp.
@lightweightjive
@lightweightjive Жыл бұрын
@@rebeccarambo2893 can’t honestly say🤷‍♂️. Is sad, though.
@taylorswifteditsl3
@taylorswifteditsl3 Жыл бұрын
@@rebeccarambo2893 but how did she buried her father in China?
@DanAtkinson918
@DanAtkinson918 3 жыл бұрын
I got here from watching the Park interviews on Rogan and Friedman and thinking to myself that something was off. These were crazy fantastic stories that just seemed grossly exaggerated. I had never heard that girl speak or read anything about her. I asked some questions on a Reddit forum only to be called a bigot as well as some really angry names. So began my rabbit hole adventure. I believe she went through something, but nothing like what she is claiming. Very bizarre. Have a good day everyone.
@organic5279
@organic5279 3 жыл бұрын
exactly the same, saw her on Jre and been doing some research on her, something definitely is fishy about her for sure
@grospipo20
@grospipo20 3 жыл бұрын
Me too… just listened to her on JRE Felt it was a bit exaggerated. So begin my search…It seems that there are some inconsistencies on mugging in Chicago. According to police reports it 1 black woman and a man not 3 black woman. The police report did not mentioned anything about a crowd of white stopping her from calling the police. I don’t know but I am on the fence about the entire thing
@Money-talking
@Money-talking 3 жыл бұрын
They grew up with a lot of distrust. I'd imagine they're anxious about things they shouldn't be about. At the end of the day, people wouldn't be risking their lives to escape if it was a land of milk and honey.
@diabloakland
@diabloakland 2 жыл бұрын
She was in fact wealthy there. Her father was smuggling copper and got in trouble for it, she used to be called the Paris Hilton of NK/PY
@FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime
@FlatWorld_Jomhuri_Regime 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. A few things got to me about some of her stories, I've been watching her KZbin videos on and off for about 2-3 years. A few of the more glaring things, she claims that North Koreans don't even know what the continents are, don't even know what the continent of Africa is.
@LowKickMT
@LowKickMT Жыл бұрын
its impressive how she can cry all the time without a single tear
@Edith.G.G.
@Edith.G.G. Жыл бұрын
Just like bad actors do on TV talk shows.
@Kaia_bee
@Kaia_bee Жыл бұрын
Yeah when I saw the video of her when she was younger and crying I felt like something was off. It felt very contrived, and you can just sense the fact that she was not crying
@Frommoonlightwithlove
@Frommoonlightwithlove 3 жыл бұрын
Her English is excellent... She's very fluent n uses words and phrases only advanced speakers use .. so I don't believe she made translational errors
@Kimjongun999
@Kimjongun999 3 жыл бұрын
The management office No. 14 has an invitation for executives, which is a kind of special feature where they stay and eat when the deputy general level comes down from Pyongyang. When executives come down from Pyongyang, they will select women aged 21 to 25 with even faces among female prisoners, bathe them, and dedicate them to the executives. Executives use these women as all kinds of tricks and secretly kill them as "runners" to keep them confidential.
@FlyingSoulworld
@FlyingSoulworld 2 жыл бұрын
yeah and just because fo that it makes me think she's a total scam
@yomilala8929
@yomilala8929 Жыл бұрын
​@@rebeccarambo2893 Her English is pretty great if we consider that she was raised in North Korea.
@jewii3824
@jewii3824 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised that a lot of the accounts were false. They escaped from North Korea without a dime on them, so they wanted money. And since there are basically no consequences in lying, and there are few ways to fact check their stories, there's no reason not to do it.
@Edith.G.G.
@Edith.G.G. Жыл бұрын
Yes, she literally became a millionaire by speaking lies.
@floyd7693
@floyd7693 3 ай бұрын
PON PON PATAPON!
@ComradeRhys
@ComradeRhys 6 жыл бұрын
The vast majority of defectors from North Korea do not have the awful and horrible stories that we are used to hearing on the news. The only defectors, and I'm only talking about a very tiny minority; around a dozen or so, less than 1%, are the ones with the worst stories who get rich and famous. Since defectors who move from North Korea are often thrown into poverty when they move to a foreign country, there is a big incentive that they have to fabricate their stories in order to make a living in survive.
@kennyf2184
@kennyf2184 Жыл бұрын
You should move there then
@mxewris2355
@mxewris2355 Жыл бұрын
​@@kennyf2184 lol what?
@asid5067
@asid5067 Жыл бұрын
​@@kennyf2184 Buy me a ticket.
@kennyf2184
@kennyf2184 Жыл бұрын
@@asid5067 buy yourself a ticket. You are not entitled to my wealth.
@asid5067
@asid5067 Жыл бұрын
@@kennyf2184 Don’t care.
@CherieDeDieu
@CherieDeDieu 3 жыл бұрын
I got irritated and disappointed when I also realized Yeonmi exaggerates a lot of her stories and even by just observing her body language, you can tell she doesn't believe what she says sometimes. It's unfortunate that she is cashing out on a truly sad situation and even though the ends justify the means, not this kind of means!
@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489
@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489 3 жыл бұрын
She was 13 when she escaped and much of the stories were when she was even younger. How accurate of an account do you have of world affairs when you were 10? Much of what she says is true, finer details "filled in" from childhood memories is not lying.
@Kimjongun999
@Kimjongun999 3 жыл бұрын
Right now, the basis of human rights is a natural right held by all mankind on Earth that has transcended ideology and system, and North Korea is consistent with nonsense that cannot even be said to be "only possible under a socialist system, and only by suppressing certain classes." Also, one of the biggest characteristics of our style of human rights is that it is not a 'right granted to everyone. They openly respond in a way that some give human rights and others do not. This, too, is plainly revealed in North Korea's explanation of "our-style human rights." "We do not hide our class in human rights. "Social human rights are not super-class human rights that give freedom and rights to adversaries who oppose socialism and impurities who violate the interests of the people." Here, another word "socialist human rights" was used, but in the end, the object to be referred to is the "our style human rights" itself, which has been repeatedly described above. The point is one. Human rights themselves are not given to those who do not support the North Korean system. Is this a horse? Are you farting? Just looking at these points, you can see that North Korea's "Korean-style human rights" are about tens of thousands of light years away from the commonly accepted definition of human rights. The human rights they refer to function only under the condition of unconditionally praising the Kim Dynasty, and are also a "right" worse than a scrap of paper that is very easily deprived if violated. However, North Korea ignores this reality and says, "We are a country that protects human rights very well, and human rights are being suppressed in capitalist countries such as South Korea!"It's funny because they only talk nonsense like
@dowlernatasha1396
@dowlernatasha1396 2 жыл бұрын
That is what south and north koreans do. Their education is full of lies and manipulation as well in both south and north korea
@letsgofishing5238
@letsgofishing5238 2 жыл бұрын
@@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489 living with someone for three years and living in the wild isn't something you get mixed up especially at teenage years..
@BoundInChains
@BoundInChains Жыл бұрын
So, you were observing her body? 🤣
@hihihi518
@hihihi518 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a North Korean defector who escaped back in 2009. My mother couldn’t afford a C-section so she tried to cut my body out herself but couldn’t handle the pain so only part of my head stuck out of her side for the first 3 years of my life. I never got an ounce of food until I was 12 years old. I was told Kim Jong Il could read our thoughts at all times so we had to make sure our thoughts were ‘pure.’ My father once thought about escaping but the Secret Police came to torture him and sent him to a re-education camp. I never saw him again. I first went to school when I was 14 and all we did was worship Kim Jong Il like he was a god from morning to afternoon. We were never allowed to sleep for more than 4 hours and 15 minutes a day (this is because Kim Il Sung was born 4/15). When I went to university, we had to memorize every word Kim Il Sung ever spoke from birth. If we messed up, we’d be sent to labor camp (10 years for every misspoken word). Not only did we not have electricity, there was no sunlight in North Korea either. Unlike the rest of the world, we only got 30 minutes of sunlight a day (we lived in pitch darkness).
@engimapopstar8010
@engimapopstar8010 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@user-ob5cw1pg9b
@user-ob5cw1pg9b 2 жыл бұрын
wow you are a survivor 💗
@longnhattran2627
@longnhattran2627 2 жыл бұрын
No, you're liar. I'm tired when hear the stories of eScAPe fRoM kOreA du NoRth. North Korean children gò to school when they enough 7 years olds.
@renan7785
@renan7785 2 жыл бұрын
Bullshit
@tavla123
@tavla123 Жыл бұрын
so brave 🥺🥺😱
@skywatcher651
@skywatcher651 6 жыл бұрын
First time I saw a video about her I felt there was something odd about her story. Seeing this now is worrying. She must be taking advantage of people to gain more financial support. She has duped so many. Thank you for showing us the inconsistencies. Could she be a spy? A con?
@hopperthemarxist8533
@hopperthemarxist8533 3 жыл бұрын
Could it be South Korea is at war with the north officially and there’s an interest in making people as terrified as possible about socialism or anything to do with. Don’t you ever wonder why you don’t know any actual history about North Korea whatsoever
@malu8710
@malu8710 3 жыл бұрын
Read her book. She didnt lie. This guy just didnt do enough research. She's talking about very different events at different points of her life, and this dude just messed the whole chronological order up and sees all the events as the same
@enthusiasticphilanthropist9298
@enthusiasticphilanthropist9298 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. It's just capitalist nations trying to create a collective aggression against a communist nation so that they can invade them
@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489
@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489 3 жыл бұрын
@@enthusiasticphilanthropist9298 Because communist nations are so wonderful that people risk their lives fleeing those countries (eg Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea) to come to capitalist countries.
@diabloakland
@diabloakland 2 жыл бұрын
She’s a capitalist for sure
@kaelynn4744
@kaelynn4744 Жыл бұрын
The unfortunate thing about Yeonmi’s stories is that they change constantly. I’m sure she’s not mentally well after living where she did, and I have no doubt she experienced heinous things. But lying to the world can never be considered ok to do 💔
@averageuser2027
@averageuser2027 Жыл бұрын
But there is a very huge difference between burying a loved one alone, with other loved ones and cremating a loved one.
@alphabetacosthetagigachad1303
@alphabetacosthetagigachad1303 Жыл бұрын
She lies because thats the only respectful way to live in a country like USA. She makes a lot of money by attending interviews and podcasts. I have seen her in many videos and she contradicts her own words.
@d993s
@d993s 2 жыл бұрын
Ok guys, the real story: Yeonmi Park was thrown on a rollercoaster of deth that ran either towards a cage that held a bear and a eagle, or a skin lamp factory, or a human soap maker, or a deth shower. Amazingly, she was able to escape being gazzed 600x on a copper sled that was powered by steaming babyheads. She then broke her parents out of prison but not before they had been raypd 600x, 0i v3y
@DaddyDuckTown
@DaddyDuckTown Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite comment on here. I'm glad someone else knows the truth about the chosen ones.
@Joebilly15684
@Joebilly15684 Жыл бұрын
So glad to see another based person the schapiro Shekelbergs are worried
@unusualbug1113
@unusualbug1113 Жыл бұрын
Totalitarian copium, go live in a dictatorship then.
@austinthegamerthebest2752
@austinthegamerthebest2752 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like another suspicious event
@longsleevethong1457
@longsleevethong1457 Жыл бұрын
Shes stark raving mad about flightless birds and mammals that lay eggs. She has a fiend interest in David hasslehoff as it relates to her obsession with German philosophy and the dark arts.
@felixthecleaner8843
@felixthecleaner8843 6 жыл бұрын
"I saw the Iraqi soldiers tipping over the incubators and leaving the babies to die on the floor".
@comradecrimson509
@comradecrimson509 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@felixthecleaner8843
@felixthecleaner8843 4 жыл бұрын
@Misanthropic Trilobite - I bet you have little to idea what the quote above refers to... are you on drugs MT or are you aged around 13 - just askin'.
@concentratecorner1744
@concentratecorner1744 3 жыл бұрын
bit of a brash comparison. she changed going to the mountains to get food to going to their families homes. She could of had to search for food before their aunts and uncles families took them in. The one about witnessing human experiments might of been true on someone elses account and that he didnt personally witness it but instead someone he trusted did and he wanted to get the word out and if you say you saw it then people take it as more believable
@vortex162
@vortex162 3 жыл бұрын
@@concentratecorner1744 nothing but you speculating!!
@concentratecorner1744
@concentratecorner1744 3 жыл бұрын
@@vortex162 yea did i say it was fact? I see the part thats inconsistent as pretty minor, its not like she said she saw human experiments and then changed it. Its over her timeline of after her parents got arrested..
@ejohnson1767
@ejohnson1767 4 жыл бұрын
People like a good story and are willing to believe anything that confirms their own bias towards a nation and its people.
@matthewtenorioduenas202
@matthewtenorioduenas202 4 жыл бұрын
Earchiel Johnson yes and that’s happening right now to china
@npc-lowlife6940
@npc-lowlife6940 2 жыл бұрын
Trust me, you don’t want to go down a path defending north korea. For your own moral wellbeing lol
@blee04524
@blee04524 2 жыл бұрын
@@npc-lowlife6940 so North Korea is bad so it’s ok to lie about everything regarding the country? What a fucktard
@dred0
@dred0 Жыл бұрын
​@@npc-lowlife6940 north Korea's economy is bad, no one's denying that but look at all the economic sanctions imposed due to the west and on top of all the anti north Korean propaganda.
@_SteelRain
@_SteelRain Жыл бұрын
@@npc-lowlife6940 hey north korea supporter herel. i agree with you i would rather stay in ignorant bliss
@OMGemgc
@OMGemgc 3 жыл бұрын
She's also kinda have an attitude. I remember she has this video that she does not want to go back to South Korea because South Koreans discriminate her or bad to her (weird because her phrasing is 'only to her' and not to the general North Korean defectors, or all of North Korean defectors. But when she defected North Korea, the country that actually helped her, gave her shelter, money, food and gave her some lessons about life is South Korea. She then fled to USA because for her South Korea is rude to her (weird because South Korea actually cared for her), also I watched some North Korean defectors whom are actually very grateful to South Korea and is living there. There is even a school in South Korea wherein they teach North Koreans lessons that will definitely help them in their life. Out of all defectors, that Park girl is the one with the most inconsistent story and so ungrateful to the country that helped her. P.S- I'm actually staying here at South Korea as an exchange student and have South Korean friends, I asked them about how they feel about North Korea, they told me they don't tolerate what North Korea's officials are doing but they are very welcoming to the defectors and held no prejudice to them
@jygold
@jygold 2 жыл бұрын
South Korean political climate is pro unification right now. As the leaders try to convince people into the idea, they also tell the public that North Korea isn't that bad. In return the public started to distance themselves or upright be hostile towards people who criticize the "regime of their Northern brothers". So it's not surprising if a sizeable portion would harass her whenever she tried to walk on the street
@diabloakland
@diabloakland 2 жыл бұрын
Also watch her in the SK show! She talks about being kind of rich and spoiled
@saganav
@saganav 2 жыл бұрын
Not all is brilliant in South Korea. In these 2 videos they just explain your question (they are subtitled). I hope KZbin will not delete my comment because of links. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqrUhqpmjL6qpcU m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/e5nQq6ODhZiVe6c
@binimbap
@binimbap 2 жыл бұрын
I have a hard time believing her, but that is one I could totally believe. Despite integration efforts, living as a NK defector in the south is extremely hard and you face so much discrimination from all sides. It's hard to buy the dream because of that, it's hard to find work and stay at work, find friends and keep friends. People might say they have no problem with defectors but still don't want anything to do with them, or quick to spot faults, or only pity and not just treat them as capable human beings like any other. Political talk is just talk, there's no praxis in real life. Yeonmi Park in particular left her good life in the north just to experience being treated as a second-class citizen in the south, so the whiplash is even bigger than someone who was actually poor in the north. I can't trust them but I can't blame them either, they are just doing their best to move ahead in life with the opportunities that are given to them. If western media will pay big money (strong positive reinforcement) for fake dramatic stories and that's the most attractive path they have, who am I to blame? Get that cash sis, this is what you came out for.
@jiyoungyu419
@jiyoungyu419 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Korean and I know that Koreans, especially the older Koreans can be very judgmental and can take gossiping and bullying too far once they're committed to it. They are very blunt and passive aggressive, and can really hurt people's feelings, but if you confront them about it, they're not going to feel bad about it.
@ln7989
@ln7989 2 жыл бұрын
I knew something was up when I saw how vain she really started to become after gaining the spotlight. Spending so much money on Botox and looks and clothes. While other defectors just want to live a happy simple life. It makes you question her intentions. Yenomi has lied about her upbringing quite a bit. In a South Korean tv show when they first escaped North Korea her own mother admitted that they were part of the elite and yenomi was very sheltered. In that interview she claims to have known nothing about the plight of the poor in North Korea. She was very privileged and it was only after she escaped and heard others stories that she started questioning her country thinking to herself: “is that really how North Korea is”
@someoneonmars2022
@someoneonmars2022 Жыл бұрын
If that’s true it is really crazy….
@Trikipum
@Trikipum Жыл бұрын
@@someoneonmars2022 it is true. Her mother itself says in tv "she does not know anything about the real north korea, she only have discovered it after talking to other defectors in the show".. almost literal words... There also pictures of her when she was little, nicely dressed, like a western girl, with a shirt with the word "princess" in it.. and her mother used to import expensive junk from japan....Imagine, the country is so crazy that you get shot by watching james bond.. but they risk dressing their girl like a western girl, with the word "princess" all over her chest...dunno dude, in the dystopian country where they shot you for watching a movie, they are ok with kids dressing like foreigners, with foreigner words that are about nobilty?... man man man..
@SeizrnUhie
@SeizrnUhie 4 жыл бұрын
It appears south korea wants to garner global attention more and more rather finding a realistic way to solve the issue with north Korea. If we poke a small bonfire, it will rather enrage. Native news outlets of korea is treating it more so of a hot topic that earns viewership. The sensational claims are quite oriented with the public that interviewees are dealing with. It is a genuine concern for everyone, we all being a global citizen but South Korea's administration behavior seems focusing on what looks good on the outside rather thoroughly dealing with problem. Dnt misunderstand me but analysing from a neutral standpoint, north Korea doesn't seem a concern but rather a global topic that native news of korea always discusses without constructive outcome.
@chrisperez3614
@chrisperez3614 3 жыл бұрын
It’s because they get paid to lie
@ketsuban
@ketsuban 3 жыл бұрын
Trauma can effect your ability to recall things severely.
@Lanieli.nr2
@Lanieli.nr2 3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaWokGaGp6-NhZI
@Lanieli.nr2
@Lanieli.nr2 3 жыл бұрын
She's a liar
@justanormalguyonyoutube1098
@justanormalguyonyoutube1098 3 жыл бұрын
trauma my ass
@malu8710
@malu8710 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes a comment section full of people who claim to know what she went through, calling her a liar. Read her book first. Dont believe a dude who couldn't get the events in order. She was not speaking about the same events she was talking about different events. She and her sister were alone, when her dad was imprisoned and her mom went away for a month to see him in prison. Her dad and mom was in prison, waay before her dad died. Her dad wasnt fully cremated which is why they dragged him up the mountain.
@williamlandim5408
@williamlandim5408 3 жыл бұрын
@@malu8710, her dad was cremated and buried at the same time, then? That makes no sense whatsoever.
@TheWorldInsider
@TheWorldInsider 4 жыл бұрын
If I was gonna be honest if I couldn’t speak a language properly and is unable to give accurate account and the reporter asks me a question I don’t understand I would just simply say anything and would be to embarrass to correct my self
@jessicaarmy-animegirl9454
@jessicaarmy-animegirl9454 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@coolandgood1010
@coolandgood1010 3 жыл бұрын
She speaks English better than some US NATIVES.
@deliadeliani9742
@deliadeliani9742 3 жыл бұрын
Her contradictions, distortions & lies can't be excused away or justified. So many commenters here have made asinine remarks about trauma, developing memories, age counting differences, etc. in order to deny or deflect the objective facts presented here. Really sad that people become so emotionally invested in someone like Park to the point they are unable or unwilling to critically analyze the reality & the facts that clearly demonstrate her manipulation & fabrication of the facts. *She can't remember it consistently which is a problem with people who make things up since things that actually happened are just plain easier to remember than things you made up for profit! An example :* *The date of their escape to China :* 1 - Yeonmi and her mother paid a smuggler to take them across the Yalu River and into China. They were escaping a repressive regime but also wanted to find Eunmi, Yeonmi’s older sister, who had fled North Korea *one week earlier.* (Yeonmi Park shares the harrowing tale of her liberation from North Korea. Apr. 15, 2016 From the book In Order to Live) 2 - we decided we had no choice but to try to escape to China. My sister went to a broker and travelled to China ahead of us, my mother and I followed her *the next day.* (Here, the 22-year-old tells Stylist.co.uk of her arduous escape from North Korea. 29. jun. 2016) 3 - Speaking to Express.co.uk she explained: “It was 2007 and I was 13. “My sister left on March 26 and *four days later* my mum and I followed her. Wed, Nov 18, 2020 Can you see these different numbers of days? In her book one week after, in 2 other interviews next day and 4 days? Version. 3 is from last year!!! She is not a good liar!! Which of them is part of her real life story? And how do you want to figure it out? So then, her book is worthless and fake like herself, a fictive novel, not an authentic biography! Wake up!
@Channel66678
@Channel66678 3 жыл бұрын
I've caught 17 discrepancies in her STORY. I researched it everything, she's a LIAR 🤬
@neutralino1905
@neutralino1905 3 жыл бұрын
I've become more and more skeptical about the stories about NK.
@meganoobbg3387
@meganoobbg3387 3 жыл бұрын
Escaping North Korea sounds so easy, im seriously considering doing it IRL. lol Its almost like northkorean border patrol are always on lunch break, and there isnt supposed to be food for them to have lunch.
@minatonamikaze2496
@minatonamikaze2496 3 жыл бұрын
@girotto if you think north korea is so awesome move there then. the rest of us will keep enjoying our freedom.
@germandavidurdaneta4034
@germandavidurdaneta4034 3 жыл бұрын
@Amogus you definitely should't believe everything you see on the news but trust North Korea more? one of the most repressive and censored countries in the world? lmao ok
@vortex162
@vortex162 3 жыл бұрын
@Amogus the US is a back stabber, Iraq to mention one!
@vortex162
@vortex162 3 жыл бұрын
@@germandavidurdaneta4034 you've been watching too much western bullshit propaganda!
@countryblues55
@countryblues55 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, and Lex Fridman all fell for it...
@hairyshoulders5866
@hairyshoulders5866 3 жыл бұрын
They chose to fall for it, because everyone has an agenda and they chose the version of events that's most convenient to theirs. No matter how "free-thinking" they portray themselves as.
@specialknees6798
@specialknees6798 3 жыл бұрын
@@hairyshoulders5866 bullshit bro. Those guys are dumbasses but you’re out of your mind if you think Joe Rogan is grifting about this. Is it really that hard to believe that those guys believe the same thing that 99% of other people believe? Do you genuinely think it’s more likely that they all in on it and have decided to explicitly lie and conspire against China and North Korea out of malice. I’m not speaking to whether it’s true or not, but I’m basically certain that those guys are genuine. You guys say everything is a CIA narrative, but you don’t provide any counter narratives that aren’t from the fucking Chinese state department. What you’re asking for is more akin to a religion than a political cause. Hell, I bet you’ll just accuse me of willingly lying about this too for whatever reason.
@hairyshoulders5866
@hairyshoulders5866 3 жыл бұрын
@@specialknees6798 I never said the whole thing was a CIA narrative. You're making a ton of assumptions from that one comment I made, I never even mentioned where I stand on this issue. I don't believe that NK is some utopia, it is a totalitarian state. That doesn't mean that Western countries don't do everything they can to greatly exaggerate whatever morsels of information they can get their hands on. They are just as capable of propaganda as the CCP. And this was probably unclear from my comment, but I was saying that it's natural for people to be less critical about "facts" when those facts align with what they already believe. It's often not a conscious decision. I fall victim to that too, and there's no reason to believe that Rogan and the others don't. Especially guys like Lex Fridman who portray themselves as ultra rationalists and (intentionally or not) create an impression that all their beliefs come from first principles thinking. Those are the ones I mistrust the most, because they tend to have huge blind spots in my experience.
@agabrielrose
@agabrielrose 3 жыл бұрын
I used to train with Lex. He's a good dude with solid intentions, but not a social genius.
@lkikhi8629
@lkikhi8629 3 жыл бұрын
Brennan Bowyer Here you go dude kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaWokGaGp6-NhZI
@aytana9196
@aytana9196 3 жыл бұрын
I remember that she has said that she escaped NK at 13 or 14. But in one interview she was saying that before her father was arrested and family was pushed to a lower cast a guy from hight cast was in love with her and he kept trying to marry her after it all happened despite risking his life. This all must have happened when she was a child then. That was an inconsistency that I have had noticed.
@folkloreevermore2797
@folkloreevermore2797 3 жыл бұрын
Well some old generations were asked to marry or being proposed (?) At a very young age in the past.
@aytana9196
@aytana9196 3 жыл бұрын
@@folkloreevermore2797 This must have happened when she was 10-11 then. Besides, this woman is quite young, not an old generation.
@folkloreevermore2797
@folkloreevermore2797 3 жыл бұрын
@@aytana9196 idk man. She might exaggerate things but i don't think she's lying about what she's been through. But the thing is in her channel, sometimes she talked about something that's happening in north korea that's not from the media. I wonder like how did she even know that. So maybe 80% I trust her.
@aytana9196
@aytana9196 3 жыл бұрын
@@folkloreevermore2797 Sometimes I feel like she talks other peoples stories as her own
@folkloreevermore2797
@folkloreevermore2797 3 жыл бұрын
@@aytana9196 there are people said that all those stories of different context were mentioned in her book.
@chinnjk
@chinnjk 4 жыл бұрын
It's sad because it ruins it for the rest of the victims who are telling the complete truth -__-
@85MasterV
@85MasterV 3 жыл бұрын
How do you know who is telling the truth or not? Complete logically fallacy. If you 'believe' they are lying with no absolute proof, you are a fool and only cheating yourself from the truth.
@chinnjk
@chinnjk 3 жыл бұрын
@@85MasterV i feel like you both didn't fully read my comment and just want to be asses because you can.
@85MasterV
@85MasterV 3 жыл бұрын
@@chinnjk I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you, I was responding to the other comment.
@cockatooinsunglasses7492
@cockatooinsunglasses7492 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. North Korean defectors are already berated enough in South Korean society. People lying would spur tensions against defectors even more.
@ab-wx3or
@ab-wx3or 5 жыл бұрын
"Ah yes, Kim ate my mother."
@blackberrycherry3
@blackberrycherry3 4 жыл бұрын
Do... Do you want to talk about it...?
@blackberrycherry3
@blackberrycherry3 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry not sorry O-Oh...
@Rustam7899
@Rustam7899 3 жыл бұрын
wot
@tuanas458
@tuanas458 Жыл бұрын
lmao
@Spanishdog17
@Spanishdog17 3 жыл бұрын
If you do research on Yeonmi Park you’ll see that she is probably being used by conservative business owners. Despite coming from an isolated country like North Korea, at the age of 27 she has already ‘developed’ strong opinions about the same things that Candice Owens and Ben Shapiro rant about, like political correctness and gender studies. I find it funny how she said that ‘political correctness’ has gone ‘too far’ when that’s a right wing talking point she is just parroting. Does North Korea even have that concept? If she thinks North Korea is authoritarian then why would she waste her time complaining about political correctness and gender studies? Shouldn’t she complain about wars and human rights? A lot of what she says doesn’t add up. Also she is not the only North Korean defector to go back on their word.
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj
@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj 6 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for all of the defectors, however, I really wonder how much of their stories are true? I guess I would not say they are lying 100% of the time, however, I have a good feeling that they are not telling the truth 100% of the time too. It is very sad if they are using such sad experiences in their lives just for money and attention. I find that sad and makes everyone suspect whether their experiences are fact or fiction? If they truly cared for their countrymen who are still stuck in North Korea then I think they should tell the truth as much as possible or else who will believe them anymore?
@TennessisET
@TennessisET 6 жыл бұрын
you don't have to know everything they went through. try to entertain yourself by smth else
@NoalaPropaganda
@NoalaPropaganda 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaWokGaGp6-NhZI
@killmemadame7046
@killmemadame7046 4 жыл бұрын
Trinh Nguyen personal stories are not reliable. It's best to get statistics, documents and material evidence (laws, food supply, prison equivalent...ect)
@notthefather3919
@notthefather3919 4 жыл бұрын
@@killmemadame7046 personal stories aren't but stats and laws have no bias?
@highlifebeatz4488
@highlifebeatz4488 3 жыл бұрын
@@TennessisET I know how you feel man I agree. I find some of the defectors to be fishy but there’s always exploitation in society’s! Imo there may be some defectors who fabricate some of there stories or maybe they aren’t even defectors point is that there are real people who try to escape nk and they shouid be able to just leave but the regime keeps power over the people by fear I assume that’s why they literally trap them with fencing around the towns to prevent escape, and if you escape if I’m not mistaken the regime can torture generations of your family for your choice to show to the citizens that they are not above the law, and that they are controlled. But Imo I think there can be some truth to these defectors but I think we must look deeper to find the truth man because we’re going off defectors here because if we’re foreigners we’re not allowed to visit North Korea to just freely travel no we have to be accompanied by a tour to all places nk wants u to see and nothing they don’t want u to see. So you only see good parts of Korean architecture and etc but if you were to travel away from the bustling city you wouid see poor villages and villagers. It’s intense very intense imo. And the history of there land just baffles me. Baffles me how a dictator can sit there and not take pride in running his state. Not take pride in feeding his people, taking care of them by sending the food aid to the villages, etc instead he is insane and eats nice food while his countrymen starve to literal death. I am disgusted by the Kim dynasty and I know I can never visit there in the time of the Kim dynasty’s rule because I’ve completely shit on Kim and his dynasty because I have at least the right to speak that here in America thankfully. But if I got to nk they probably wouid just Send me to a place to be tortured but fuck em the world shouid always be reminded the evil that occurs there because of its people who are forced to suffer and most likely have no way out! Yet we are free in most of the world, we have at least some basic freedoms, North Koreans based upon my research do not get that luxury sadly. I feel for there people but what do we even do about it? Chinas regime is also evil becuase anyone who dares put an end to North Korean evil will most likely have to fight China as well. There’s always more evil I find behind evil, not to shit on any of my respected Chinese but I’m saying that I hate your governments way of going about things at least with certain things that I for sure have done research on !
@basementdweller8330
@basementdweller8330 6 жыл бұрын
It's also worth noting that memory distorting is common with victims of trauma. Her memory could be all messed up, and then that's why the story could keep changing
@clushtrip
@clushtrip 3 жыл бұрын
Nah dude she was paid to said so
@clushtrip
@clushtrip 3 жыл бұрын
@Pro Justice kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaWokGaGp6-NhZI
@deliadeliani9742
@deliadeliani9742 3 жыл бұрын
Basement Dweller said ; "It's also worth noting that memory distorting is common with victims of trauma. Her memory could be all messed up, and then that's why the story could keep changing" Regarding trauma : How do you know that? Have you ever conducted any extensive fact-checking research on her personal life-story and the topics she is talking about? Where is your facts & evidence in order to verify / confirm /support her claims? You must provide us with ( in the first place) the solid & verifiable information about her personal life independent from her own claims, before you can talk about trauma! This argument is not valid! Because you start from a presumption , an idea regarding her life story (btw , which version of it?!!!!) that is taken to be true, and used as the basis for other ideas (such as trauma), although it is not known for certain. It's also a circular argumentation: By using trauma you want to convince us that she had a terrible life, and by pointing to her terrible life experiences as basis for her trauma! In fact, None of them are independently supported or verified by any evidence. Her contradictions, distortions & lies can't be excused away or justified. So many commenters here have made asinine remarks about trauma, developing memories, age counting differences, etc. in order to deny or deflect the objective facts presented here. Really sad that people become so emotionally invested in someone like Park to the point they are unable or unwilling to critically analyze the reality & the facts that clearly demonstrate her manipulation & fabrication of the facts. *She can't remember it consistently which is a problem with people who make things up since things that actually happened are just plain easier to remember than things you made up for profit! An example :* *The date of their escape to China :* 1 - Yeonmi and her mother paid a smuggler to take them across the Yalu River and into China. They were escaping a repressive regime but also wanted to find Eunmi, Yeonmi’s older sister, who had fled North Korea *one week earlier.* (Yeonmi Park shares the harrowing tale of her liberation from North Korea. Apr. 15, 2016 From the book In Order to Live) 2 - we decided we had no choice but to try to escape to China. My sister went to a broker and travelled to China ahead of us, my mother and I followed her *the next day.* (Here, the 22-year-old tells Stylist.co.uk of her arduous escape from North Korea. 29. jun. 2016) 3 - Speaking to Express.co.uk she explained: “It was 2007 and I was 13. “My sister left on March 26 and *four days later* my mum and I followed her. Wed, Nov 18, 2020 Can you see these different numbers of days? In her book one week after, in 2 other interviews next day and 4 days? Version. 3 is from last year!!! She is not a good liar!! Which of them is part of her real life story? And how do you want to figure it out? So then, her book is worthless and fake like herself, a fictive novel, not an authentic biography! Wake up!
@_SteelRain
@_SteelRain Жыл бұрын
stop defending her thats obv not the case
@007vlk
@007vlk 6 жыл бұрын
So far I have never written a comment before but I have read Park books In order to survive. And actually, if you read the book all the testaments which she said so far are in the book also. She had to survive only with her sister and she also was separated from her when she went to her aunt, who looked after her for a while. It would be actually good to do some background research before filming a video like this :D But I can't defend her, she can tell some lies or extravagate some events but so far I haven't heard her to change her testaments.
@dustinchen
@dustinchen 4 жыл бұрын
So you’re admitting she’s a liar
@NintendoAmy
@NintendoAmy 4 жыл бұрын
@Misanthropic Trilobite They are bs liars paid to lie and then those lies are used as justification to increase sanctions on the DPRK which then causes human suffering... these people aren't just liars their lies have real consequences which hurt real people. Also as SirLGM said, it makes it impossible to even know what stories are real and what are fake when people like her just repeatedly make up shit for cash. It makes it more difficult to know what is true and what isn't since it casts doubt on all other stories.
@johneyon5257
@johneyon5257 4 жыл бұрын
Petra - agreed (1) a quick look at TennisPurist's account shows that he/she has NKorean propaganda videos extolling the virtues of NKorea - nuf said (2) according to her own memoir - chapter 7 told of extended time YeonMi and her sister lived in the family home alone as their father was jailed and their mother went to help him - in chapter 8 - to ease the burden on YeonMi's mother - her mother's sister took YeonMi with her to her country home - leaving the sister with their mother (3) another imaginary discrepancy occurs between YeonMi saying her father was buried - and later saying he was cremated - except there's NO conflict there - at the end of Chap 15 - she describes secretly getting her father's remains cremated - AND burying the box with his ashes in the mountains (4) there are discrepancies that can't be resolved like this - but considering how sloppy people are in coalescing statements made at different times - such as #1 and #2 above - and then i discover this account post NKorean propaganda - i don't trust their judgement - and will wait until an investigation or direct questioning can actually be done
@vio3366
@vio3366 3 жыл бұрын
@@NintendoAmy yes! It is so sad we can't tell the nk defectors who tell genuine stories! A lot of her followers said she had to lie and in her book she said that, but why would she mix up such things in an interview anyway?
@генералратко
@генералратко 3 жыл бұрын
I wrote a comment on her KZbin channel she blocked I just asked her to cite the evidence on her claims
@JohnKLee-to5fl
@JohnKLee-to5fl 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a South Korean in 40s. Almost everyone in Western or Janan doesn't know that there is 'no' chance of 'Real War' in the Korean peninsula (Absolutely!!!). That's why you can see these kinds of comedy.
@vortex162
@vortex162 3 жыл бұрын
54 countries still do not have a peace treaty did you know that? NK still is under a truce with the US, so are 54 countries!
@JohnKLee-to5fl
@JohnKLee-to5fl 3 жыл бұрын
@@vortex162 It is only a matter of formality. In 1985, a South Korean dictator Chun Doo-hwan said that NK would not be able to wage a war if the economic gap between North and South was 10 times or more. The economic gap is now more than 30 times. NK even doesn't have enough fuel. That kinds of saying 'NK still is under a truce with the US' is nothing but an excuse to pressure North Korea.
@vortex162
@vortex162 3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnKLee-to5fl the fact is that 54 countries do not have a peace treaty NK included. It means war could break out at any time anywhere as we have seen with Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and America’s proxy wars and the list goes on. Nk has no interest starting a war but America would March right in if Kim Yong Un would have wiped out all his nukes as the Americans wanted. Good on Kim not to be that stupid!! NK’s deterrent is their nuclear capability and if push came to shove by an attack from the American SK, allies of NK like China would get involved and possibly Russia. However, wars are fought on many occasions with sanctions but that also leaves room for innovation and self reliance!
@JohnKLee-to5fl
@JohnKLee-to5fl 3 жыл бұрын
​@@vortex162 The international politics is not just that simple. I think you've better read this book. --> 'The Grand Chessboard', www.amazon.com/Grand-Chessboard-American-Geostrategic-Imperatives/dp/0465027261 This book is written by Zbigniew Brzezinski, who served as a National Security Advisor of the US. According to this book, the war between the US and NK has no merit even for the US (In fact, it would be a very stupid choice). Of course, there is a very very tiny possibility of everything. But, it's better to think about the possibility and the rationale first. Are you the type who is worried about lightning tonight?
@TimmyME
@TimmyME 6 жыл бұрын
She probably did things to survive that she is ashamed of. Is that a big deal? I´m giving this video a thumbs down because I do not like the tone in wich it is presented.
@michaelwhite9677
@michaelwhite9677 6 жыл бұрын
TimmyME here here the comments are bad and none where in her shoes if they had been I bet they wouldn't last five minuets
@AcidXprezZ
@AcidXprezZ 6 жыл бұрын
Those ever-changing stories and lies theyve been caught into didnt last 5 minutes. NK on the other hand lasted 70 years in almost complete isolation from the outside world thanks to the sanctions that US called for because they were unsuccessful in military intervention.
@TimmyME
@TimmyME 6 жыл бұрын
NK looks like a dump but I am sure the people that live there LOVE it.
@esharenee4186
@esharenee4186 6 жыл бұрын
TimmyME that don't even make sense 😒
@barbatvs8959
@barbatvs8959 6 жыл бұрын
Yes it does make sense because the most atheistic country on earth, the Dear Leader's Private Paradise Garden of Love, AKA North Korea, is BEST KOREA!!!! ¡¡¡¡¡
@AlexChimaev
@AlexChimaev Жыл бұрын
She seems to know way tooo much about north Korea for someone who left north Korea at the age of 13. Stuff children won't understand. I don't think she's backed by some institute to lie and make north Korea look bad but I think it just get her the fame she wants
@georgeacun3619
@georgeacun3619 2 ай бұрын
If she told the real truth she would not be a sympathetic person. In that kind of society I am afraid you have to get your hands dirty.
@fourtweven
@fourtweven 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like they would have been trained to memorize stories detail by detail if they really were spies
@deletedwaffles
@deletedwaffles 2 жыл бұрын
This. There's no way they would fuck it up by being inconsistent. North Korea would have beat the information into these people if they were spies.
@pumpyronaldrump_4417
@pumpyronaldrump_4417 2 жыл бұрын
@@deletedwaffles unless it's a sort of controlled opposition to discredit real defectors. I don't know the full context of these clips, and I'm not sure whether to trust her or not. But who knows what kind of psi ops they could be playing at.
@annakana32
@annakana32 6 жыл бұрын
I just think she lies for attention. I respect that getting out of NK is tough, but she's definitely romanticising her story.
@starkiler13
@starkiler13 6 жыл бұрын
The fuck are you saying alice S?
@007vlk
@007vlk 6 жыл бұрын
Read her book In order to survive she describes all her life in North Korea and you will understand.
@chinesemaoist5530
@chinesemaoist5530 6 жыл бұрын
Did she even write the book?
@crissmalik3020
@crissmalik3020 6 жыл бұрын
China Troll Yes And it s a wonderful book
@chinesemaoist5530
@chinesemaoist5530 6 жыл бұрын
A wonderful book filled with lies and propaganda that was probably ghost written for her, because none of these books ever hold up to scrutiny. Much like Escape From Camp 14 which has been widely discredited.
@FuyuNoAi
@FuyuNoAi 6 жыл бұрын
I read her book, she said she had to bury his father's ashes.
@hopperthemarxist8533
@hopperthemarxist8533 3 жыл бұрын
But she told reporters that she and her mom carried her fathers body and dragged it up the mountain and buried it. She could easily have written that in her book but she told reporters otherwise. She can’t keep her story straight which means she’s a LIAR
@amartyanath9561
@amartyanath9561 3 жыл бұрын
What's the name of her book?
@minatonamikaze2496
@minatonamikaze2496 3 жыл бұрын
@@hopperthemarxist8533 even if she is exaggerating, it doesn't change the fact that North Korean government is a evil regime that must be stopped at all costs.
@minatonamikaze2496
@minatonamikaze2496 3 жыл бұрын
@@RealDanielMcCusker and you think somehow the North Korean Government is somehow truthful is this case? This is the same Government that does everything in its power to silence anyone who dares speak out or disagree with them. I will belive a DPRK defector before any politician from there.
@minatonamikaze2496
@minatonamikaze2496 3 жыл бұрын
@@RealDanielMcCusker I still believe her over anything Kim Jong Un or any North Korean politician says. What freedom of speech do people in NK have? If they dare speak out against Kim, they could potentially get executed or sent to a labor concentration camp along with the rest of their family. My family fled Germany when Hitler began his genocide against the Jews so I will stand in solidarity and support with any North Korean defector seeking freedom from tyranny. I don't hate North Korea, I'm sure its a beautiful country with wonderful people. I hate Kim Jong Un and his corrupt family, none of them are fit to lead a county and must be removed from power and given the same treatment they dealt their people for so long.
@davidgreen5994
@davidgreen5994 6 жыл бұрын
Those stories are their way of making a living. Obviously the vast majority of peoples in NK, just like the ones in the rest of the world didn't live any "adventure'. I am from an ex-soviet country, and despise all the opression and shit most peoples lived simple and normal lifes, with no conflicts or unordinary situations. But those peoples fleed north koreea... And peoples expect sensational stories from them. When they don't have such stories, the result are lies and exagerations. Plus, the goverments of their adoptive country May make them say those things to help the anti NK propaganda. Last but not least, is for simpathy... They come from a really hated country with a very agresive behavoir, they need to show that they don't share that world view, being afraid of potential perssecution.
@hongkonguncensored6301
@hongkonguncensored6301 3 жыл бұрын
Yeonmi Park. Korean liar said she bury her father she said on One Young World she never said cremated him.
@Christina-dz5qf
@Christina-dz5qf 6 жыл бұрын
I never heard her say another version of her story also perhaps some of her story maybe mixed due to the language barrier and the fact that trauma can sometimes get mixed in the mind
@vortex162
@vortex162 3 жыл бұрын
What a bunch of bull!
@awkwardnerd.
@awkwardnerd. Жыл бұрын
My favourite is when she said people push the train
@MewDenise
@MewDenise 6 жыл бұрын
In many crime case interviews - the stories changes there to. That is because of trauma and PTSD. Memories become cloudy
@AnaPRLRosa
@AnaPRLRosa 4 жыл бұрын
MewDenise no. You don’t state that your father died in China after saying he died in North Korea of cancer. The narratives are completely different. If you digg and watch the South Korean show her mother and her say they never starved. They had money compared to other Koreans. Please inform yourself. I cried first time I heard her story, kept watching interviews and talks and realized that yeah, she lies.
@MrRattlebones640
@MrRattlebones640 6 жыл бұрын
NOT TODAY CIA
@justanormalguyonyoutube1098
@justanormalguyonyoutube1098 3 жыл бұрын
please bring the USSR back
@shoeitchy7613
@shoeitchy7613 3 жыл бұрын
apolgy for bad british. where were u when soviet union fell i was in couch when phone ring “soviet union is fall” "no”
@85MasterV
@85MasterV 3 жыл бұрын
I could have guess communist scum would think these stories are fake, even with all the documentation of how terribly NK treats their citizens.
@justanormalguyonyoutube1098
@justanormalguyonyoutube1098 3 жыл бұрын
@@85MasterV *Documentation* refers to one that is documented by an american
@92GreyBlue
@92GreyBlue 4 жыл бұрын
Lol she is better dressed than most South Koreans.... Better paid too apparently.
@Artix902
@Artix902 3 жыл бұрын
Because she was commissioned by Penguin to write a book...
@aom1156
@aom1156 3 жыл бұрын
sad. she did an awesome interview with jordy peterson. but there were times you could tell she was lying
@Spanishdog17
@Spanishdog17 3 жыл бұрын
Jordan Peterson is a teacher on PragerU for a reason…
@tuanas458
@tuanas458 Жыл бұрын
she's lying the whole time
@biggiesmalls6270
@biggiesmalls6270 4 жыл бұрын
the stories don't make sense either like when she said she went to go in the mountains because two things Firstly a lot of the DPRK's mountains are populated due to the villages there so she would never be by herself and Secondly these Mountains especially when she says close to the top don't have any grass or water reserves at all. she's just a kulak lmfao
@NintendoAmy
@NintendoAmy 4 жыл бұрын
When these people get paid handsomely for their lies, they don't have to hold a regular job like a regular person make so much money they don't have to worry about health care or housing, so they become isolated from poverty and start claiming they've found "true freedom" in the west, ignoring that defectors from the DPRK have in the past literally starved to death in the South from poverty. These people not only are encouraged to lie but they become disconnected from the suffering in the countries they move to and so they don't feel bad about their lies. Her current net worth is almost half a million dollars and she's still young. She will never know what it is like to be poor in a capitalist country. But she will gladly tell lies to remain rich.
@biggiesmalls6270
@biggiesmalls6270 4 жыл бұрын
@@NintendoAmy you got an extremely based pfp
@NintendoAmy
@NintendoAmy 4 жыл бұрын
@@biggiesmalls6270 thanks same to you
@johneyon5257
@johneyon5257 4 жыл бұрын
reading IN ORDER TO LIVE answers many of the issues brought up in this video - however a BIGGER question is - who is behind the video - who is behind you - i don't think we need to wonder who is behind "Juche Faye" - he/she spells out her North Korean bias right in his/her name
@jordynsimmons1107
@jordynsimmons1107 4 жыл бұрын
SHE IS A LIAR.
@panda.bear15
@panda.bear15 Жыл бұрын
Sad cause it takes away from the real victims
@malu8710
@malu8710 3 жыл бұрын
This whole video just shows that you havent researched enough. I read her book. What you have presented here is all real things she said, but you presented them as things she changed each time she was asked. No. You messed up the chronological order of events. Her mother and father went to prison, and that's when they had to take care of themselves. I suggest you just read the book, because it's not the same thing she's talking about here, presented in different ways. She was talking about different events in her lifr
@deliadeliani9742
@deliadeliani9742 3 жыл бұрын
Her contradictions, distortions & lies can't be excused away or justified. So many commenters here have made asinine remarks about trauma, developing memories, age counting differences, etc. in order to deny or deflect the objective facts presented here. Really sad that people become so emotionally invested in someone like Park to the point they are unable or unwilling to critically analyze the reality & the facts that clearly demonstrate her manipulation & fabrication of the facts. *She can't remember it consistently which is a problem with people who make things up since things that actually happened are just plain easier to remember than things you made up for profit! An example :* *The date of their escape to China :* 1 - Yeonmi and her mother paid a smuggler to take them across the Yalu River and into China. They were escaping a repressive regime but also wanted to find Eunmi, Yeonmi’s older sister, who had fled North Korea *one week earlier.* (Yeonmi Park shares the harrowing tale of her liberation from North Korea. Apr. 15, 2016 From the book In Order to Live) 2 - we decided we had no choice but to try to escape to China. My sister went to a broker and travelled to China ahead of us, my mother and I followed her *the next day.* (Here, the 22-year-old tells Stylist.co.uk of her arduous escape from North Korea. 29. jun. 2016) 3 - Speaking to Express.co.uk she explained: “It was 2007 and I was 13. “My sister left on March 26 and *four days later* my mum and I followed her. Wed, Nov 18, 2020 Can you see these different numbers of days? In her book one week after, in 2 other interviews next day and 4 days? Version. 3 is from last year!!! She is not a good liar!! Which of them is part of her real life story? And how do you want to figure it out? So then, her book is worthless and fake like herself, a fictive novel, not an authentic biography! Wake up!
@deliadeliani9742
@deliadeliani9742 3 жыл бұрын
Her book=
@cptteeegs4514
@cptteeegs4514 6 жыл бұрын
shes said in a further interview that she buried her fathers ashes, poorly researched and horrible presentation of a one sided narrative, which doesnt take into account what time and trauna does do the memory, downvoted. you and your researchers if you have them should be ashamed of the way this article was presented and the lack of professional integrity shown
@danielfadavi
@danielfadavi 6 жыл бұрын
Teags they should be ashamed? No. When doing an interview, you have to be exact. Besides it’s the right thing to be skeptical of everything and not just side with the public’s narrative. God, being ashamed for asking questions huh?
@Tenatic-X
@Tenatic-X 6 жыл бұрын
it is true that the story is being a lot one sided. only mentioning about 3 people and talking about only one person in detail. He fails to mention the other defector's stories like the ones from asian boss or other sources. It's very misrepesentated by saying why do north korean dfectors change their stories? It is indeed inaccurate by only explaining in detail about a tiny few bad things, picking the worst cherries from the tree.
@kapitankapital6580
@kapitankapital6580 6 жыл бұрын
Now hang on. She said she had to bury her father herself. A preteen or teenage girl alone does not have the expertise or equipment to cremate a human body.
@yeahokaycoolcool
@yeahokaycoolcool 6 жыл бұрын
Patrick Ellis maybe he burned alive and she collected what was left of him? I have no idea what actually happened to this chick lol
@kapitankapital6580
@kapitankapital6580 6 жыл бұрын
Jillian J You've never been to a crematorium, have you? Cremating somebody isn't just setting them on fire. Also, how the fuck did he spontaneously combust? The point is, it is impossible for a little girl, or anybody without proper equipment, to cremate a dead body. It is also unlikely that a young girl would dig her own father's grave. She is lying.
@jonasmaffei9960
@jonasmaffei9960 4 жыл бұрын
She´s clearly a liar. However, I know several US alies who would do similar things to what she describes, just like Saudi Arabia, and the west still supports them.
@85MasterV
@85MasterV 3 жыл бұрын
Did it every occur to you that you could be wrong, since there are mounds of evidence of DPRK wrongdoing.. and realizing so would mean you are an insensitive prick living inside cognitive dissonance?
@deliadeliani9742
@deliadeliani9742 3 жыл бұрын
@@85MasterV Her contradictions, distortions & lies can't be excused away or justified. So many commenters here have made asinine remarks about trauma, developing memories, age counting differences, etc. in order to deny or deflect the objective facts presented here. Really sad that people become so emotionally invested in someone like Park to the point they are unable or unwilling to critically analyze the reality & the facts that clearly demonstrate her manipulation & fabrication of the facts. *She can't remember it consistently which is a problem with people who make things up since things that actually happened are just plain easier to remember than things you made up for profit! An example :* *The date of their escape to China :* 1 - Yeonmi and her mother paid a smuggler to take them across the Yalu River and into China. They were escaping a repressive regime but also wanted to find Eunmi, Yeonmi’s older sister, who had fled North Korea *one week earlier.* (Yeonmi Park shares the harrowing tale of her liberation from North Korea. Apr. 15, 2016 From the book In Order to Live) 2 - we decided we had no choice but to try to escape to China. My sister went to a broker and travelled to China ahead of us, my mother and I followed her *the next day.* (Here, the 22-year-old tells Stylist.co.uk of her arduous escape from North Korea. 29. jun. 2016) 3 - Speaking to Express.co.uk she explained: “It was 2007 and I was 13. “My sister left on March 26 and *four days later* my mum and I followed her. Wed, Nov 18, 2020 Can you see these different numbers of days? In her book one week after, in 2 other interviews next day and 4 days? Version. 3 is from last year!!! She is not a good liar!! Which of them is part of her real life story? And how do you want to figure it out? So then, her book is worthless and fake like herself, a fictive novel, not an authentic biography! Wake up!
@ShrimpGaslight
@ShrimpGaslight 6 жыл бұрын
For the people who are so quick to call her a liar or a fake, maybe you should take a visit to North Korea? Get some confirmation as to whether she has lied or not maybe?
@lucas10armond
@lucas10armond 6 жыл бұрын
North Korea are incresing in tourism,
@ShrimpGaslight
@ShrimpGaslight 6 жыл бұрын
Not a direct response to my question but ok. Citation please.
@zachz96
@zachz96 6 жыл бұрын
They won't let you see all the bad stuff.
@TennessisET
@TennessisET 6 жыл бұрын
find your balls and follow Otto. but of course, your sofa is more comfortable, and it's easier to judge people who went through hell
@axellachauve7389
@axellachauve7389 6 жыл бұрын
the problem with peoples like you is that you'll never see from yourself, the DPRK is a nice country, but you will deny it and choose to ask people to do it for you
@dannibble
@dannibble 2 жыл бұрын
My red flags first started with how political she was. I saw a clip of her recently saying America should be happy to have inequality because north Korea has none. Well... That's not exactly true is it. North Korea for sure has ruling and elite classes. It's not like Kim Jong un is the only person that live in a nice house there. Don't get me wrong, NK is a messed up place. But she herself doesn't seem to understand the country she came from.
@shortone9131
@shortone9131 Жыл бұрын
not the first time US government using girl to lie about some country, like that one kuwait girl that lying about iraq who turn up to be the daughter of kuwait ambassador for US.
@SaraH-jc2ny
@SaraH-jc2ny 3 жыл бұрын
In the case of Yeonmi Park, you just didn't do a good search about her, she didn't lie, she just couldn't tell all the details in all interviews it would take hours, if you read her book you will understand that she buried her father's ASHES... etc North korean defectors have families in NK, they got punished when they talk, she had 3 generations of her family punished because of that, I think Shin received threats about his family too, that's why he completly changed his story about the camp, how could you believe a NK gov video over a defector that went from hell, and think that he is the liar and the the system !! Please inform yourselves before spreading such dumb videos
@baghead4548
@baghead4548 3 жыл бұрын
@@RealDanielMcCusker it's not lying if the story becomes consistent when she has a chance to write it down without a language barrier. She's having to interpret the sentence being asked and then she has to respond. The number of times speaking French and I've been completely on the wrong page with someone... like they might call me a liar too if it was this sort of subject matter. Vice has done an amazing documentary on North Korea I mean... the video footage kinda speaks for itself. Even if she has embellished stuff, what she is saying is still very much aligned with what footage has come out of North Korea and what we know about it.... so say it's 80% true? 70%? It's still horrific. We shouldn't be dismissing this woman's story because of some details around cremation/burial of her father. By "buried" she might really just mean sprinkling the ashes to lay her father to rest. To say variations of this with a language barrier is totally understandable. What we DO know is that her father died and that she did SOMETHING with the remains; in either variation, we can at least infer this. Picking at the little details really detracts from the major point of her account.
@folkloreevermore2797
@folkloreevermore2797 3 жыл бұрын
@@RealDanielMcCusker english is my 3rd language and when you don't speak that language, sometimes you forget the vocabulary of certain words and try to convey it with the closest meaning. I've learned english since middle school and I just learnt what ash means after I graduated from highschool. And she might exaggerate some part but I don't think she's lying about what she's been through.
@folkloreevermore2797
@folkloreevermore2797 3 жыл бұрын
@@RealDanielMcCusker I'm not excusing her for lying. I didn't say I trust her 100% because we don't know what's goin on in her mind. .She might be dramatising things.
@agabrielrose
@agabrielrose 3 жыл бұрын
She got paid to say all this, though, right? Like, a ton of money?
@WanderTrust
@WanderTrust 3 жыл бұрын
idk if I tried to remember stuff from when i was 13....let alone traumas and being starving for literally my entire life....I might be a little foggy too :/ Is it really so hard to believe that the CCP is funding this after what we know them to be up to in their own country? When China heavily influences Hollywood and among other things here in the west?
@Akrenix
@Akrenix 6 жыл бұрын
They are faking their stories.
@jollyspaghetti1298
@jollyspaghetti1298 3 жыл бұрын
LOL SOMEONE IS DANCING INTO THE TUNE OF THIS WOMAN. 😂😂😂😂😂
@xcaliber5844
@xcaliber5844 6 жыл бұрын
She's an actor for some American propaganda
@axellachauve7389
@axellachauve7389 6 жыл бұрын
the worst is that she does the actor thing very well.
@PrefersToBeAnonToday
@PrefersToBeAnonToday Жыл бұрын
I wonder if he’s alive and she’s changing the story to keep North Korea in the dark of his status.
@20somthingdrifter11
@20somthingdrifter11 3 жыл бұрын
As others have pointed out, English is her second language and you cannot expect the same precision of language from some with an intermediate level of english. Also, the events they are sharing are traumatic, sometimes defectors will change aspects of their story because of guilt or discomfort, also trauma can cause them to remember things differently, this is the same reason witnesses of a crime may have wildly different memories of what happened. And yes sometimes defectors do purposely alter their stories for one reason or another. Like the defector who wrote Escape from camp 17, if I remember correctly he lied about how his mother died, he actually turned her in, which if you understand what the camps are like and how he was raised and treated in there you understand why he did it, but if your going to go "Well why wasn't that in the book?", because after years of living in the south and being exposed to new ways of thinking he probably feel guilty about it and doesn't want to share that factoid with the world.
@allenclw3361
@allenclw3361 3 жыл бұрын
You mean they mistood their narrative over the course of a few years?
@20somthingdrifter11
@20somthingdrifter11 3 жыл бұрын
@@allenclw3361 If you had bothered to read my comment what I said is that sometimes when people remember Traumatic events they don't remember it exactly the way it happened... also sometimes they may change their story because they feel guilty about what happened.
@allenclw3361
@allenclw3361 3 жыл бұрын
@20somthingdrifter11 If you read about what I said you will notice that I am making fun of your mental gymnastic to excuse the incredible change in narrative that has happened over the course of many years. e.g. burying her parent alone at 3am is very different from her parents being in prison and her having to live alone in the mountain esting fireflies and frogs, which is also very different from her being taken care of by her aunt. That is some level of misuderstanding that can be attributed to a lack of English? wow... alright. But it takes a whole level of excuses to say that somehow now being able to speak English well is somehow an excuse for being able to coherently put English word together to give very different narratives.
@agent6599
@agent6599 Жыл бұрын
@@allenclw3361 I’m curious as to your opinion on Holocaust survivor stories, are they fake too?
@Trikipum
@Trikipum Жыл бұрын
@@agent6599 Overall, they arent, of course not. But you have to wonder why some of those survivors actually survived and what was the tale they told later... dude dude....
@fullerpeppr2444
@fullerpeppr2444 Жыл бұрын
Wow you were into this early. Good shit
@200eletide
@200eletide 6 жыл бұрын
How can you guys be so dense? Does it really matter that parts of the story are not accurate? That doesn’t mean she’s a spy, it’s obvious through each story that she’s had a really hard life. Hate the tone this video was made in. How condescending.
@ShrimpGaslight
@ShrimpGaslight 6 жыл бұрын
You do realise that the video seems to paint all NK defectors as "liars" right?
@bezwzglednypierozek7884
@bezwzglednypierozek7884 6 жыл бұрын
bark obama her suffering does nit justify lying - truth is more important than feelings
@starkiler13
@starkiler13 6 жыл бұрын
Keep eating shit of liars
@KironVB
@KironVB 6 жыл бұрын
>she’s had a really hard life. When she first appeared in South Korea, her story was how she used to go on fun camping trips and hang out with friends all day and eating all they wanted. She actually attacked other defectors for saying there was mass poverty in North Korea. Then she changes her story when she gets picked up by the Atlas Foundation (far-right koch think tank) and she's eating grass and bark.
@freudianslippers6567
@freudianslippers6567 6 жыл бұрын
People are afraid, that America is going to start another endless war that will result in the slaughter of thousands of innocent civillians, just like in the Horn and North Africa. It's hard NOT to be skeptical, because America has used this tactic before to instill warmongering within it's people; we don't know when duplicitous America is telling the truth, and it doesn't happen very often. And this kind of propaganda is their most used stratagems.
@rayafoxr3
@rayafoxr3 6 жыл бұрын
The reason the first girls claims were so varied was revealed in her book. Also I don’t know the context of the interview where she says her sister and her had to fend for herself, so maybe not, but I’m pretty sure she’s talking about a different time than the next interview. For example the first time is when she was younger and her mother was trying to get food but had to leave them alone, and the second one was talking about when they were both in jail later. Edit: nvm, I rewatched the video and saw that it said ‘after her parents were jailed.’ But if I remember the stories, they were different time
@sofiatempone3494
@sofiatempone3494 3 жыл бұрын
You have to keep in mind that her English isn’t perfect, she was really young, and at the end of the day her testimonial differences were slight, and not very varied. So 95% of what she talked about, must have happened to at least some degree. Even if 50% of what she told was true, it would still be a living nightmare. (Glad to see that you read the book!)
@baghead4548
@baghead4548 3 жыл бұрын
@@sofiatempone3494 Someone making sense! I think people that are super pro communist/socialist don't want to believe how bad it is there (even though left-leaning magazines like Vice have gone there and done amazing coverage of what it's like in North Korea even though they only were able to get a slice of it)
@sofiatempone3494
@sofiatempone3494 3 жыл бұрын
@@baghead4548 hey, just for some heads up, I like socialist and communist ideas, but I, and most other left-leaning individuals, agree that North Korea is just a state-capitalist country. If it were communist, then the upper class wouldn’t be hoarding all the wealth. (Just to be clear, I do believe that North Korea is 100% a terrible dictatorship)
@baghead4548
@baghead4548 3 жыл бұрын
@@sofiatempone3494 socialism/communism has a planned economy. PLANNED. Who plans it but those at the top? Socialism claims, in its definition, to be both a planned economy AND a classless society. But its an inherent contradiction. Its why all socialist states have become tyrannical states. Because of, you know, the political class that plans everything. Pointing out that socialist societies (including North Korea) have classes doesn't relinquish them from being socialist states. I know the definition calls for a classless society, but the other part of the definition DOESN'T.
@GodofDisco
@GodofDisco 3 жыл бұрын
@@sofiatempone3494 bro you are part of the problem. Seriously. All your woke corporations give money to China who funds the enslavement of the North Korean people. sigh.
@ionamygdalon2263
@ionamygdalon2263 3 жыл бұрын
As for the North Korean regime (dictatorship), journalists cannot just go and cover the situation there. That alone should raise an eyebrow. Think about it for a moment... Even in Afghanistan (September 2021 as of writing) we have press documenting the tragic situation that is unfolding there! The situation in North Korea must be so tragic and horrifying that no one dares speak about the harsh realities in the fullest. I dare say that what we hear about the so called "hermit kingdom" is nothing more than a whitewash version; sugarcoating the situation so as not to cause public outrage in Western democracies. We are in my opinion very complacent and arrogant thinking that the sufgering in North Koreans is none of our business. Here is a quote I learned in history class: Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me.
@dyutibasu4541
@dyutibasu4541 Жыл бұрын
What really annoys me about this video is that it just summarises a Guardian article by someone who has been covering North Korean refugees for years and doesnt give credit. 😶
@presleysorrells4762
@presleysorrells4762 6 жыл бұрын
A detective once told me a true story changes every time you tell it and a liars story stays consistent every team they tell it.
@rtybn456
@rtybn456 6 жыл бұрын
Kayla Sorrells yes, because a liar will rehearse the story over and over again. that's why they end up saying the exact same things with the exact same tone and facial expressions. on the other hand, if someone is telling his or her real story, a few details will change - but not the entire story. here, the girl is obviously lying about a few things (ie about her father's death). i don't know why (maybe to protect her family? maybe to make us westerners feel sad for her so that we will support her?), but the more dramatic she makes it sound, the better - people from NK need to be saved. if it takes a few lies, then so be it.
@85MasterV
@85MasterV 3 жыл бұрын
@@rtybn456 The first reasonable statement I've heard about the 'lies' on this comment section. Most of the comments here are unbelievably uneducated and biased.
@lochlannblack7699
@lochlannblack7699 2 жыл бұрын
No the quote is people who are telling the truth often remember more details not contradictory information
@tuanas458
@tuanas458 Жыл бұрын
he's a bad detective. because its literally the other way around. I suggest you watch interrogation videos
@Trikipum
@Trikipum Жыл бұрын
@@tuanas458 he talked to special detective.. Indeed, interrogations are based on asking you the very same time at diferent times and contrasting inconsistencies...
@The_Conspiracy_Analyst
@The_Conspiracy_Analyst Жыл бұрын
With the rutheless amoral opportunism of Yeonmi Park, it is clear to me now why the DPRK treats its population the way it does: it's the only way.
@DSchae2165
@DSchae2165 4 жыл бұрын
Let's see ..... you can always look at other stories about North Korea to find similarities. If you talk to people who were traumatized so badly they can't think straight you'd get the same thing. Maybe you should also research survivors of human trafficking and see how detailed and stable their memories are. PTSD must be pretty fucked up. In the beginning when she started talking, I'm sure she was told what to say about her memories at first - and coming from North Korea and from being sex trafficked, she did what she was told because that's what kept her alive through all that. Unless you have been through something, you will not understand the "why" of the "lie".
@wnykanskabsi
@wnykanskabsi Жыл бұрын
yeah i saw an interview with a victim of human trafficking, she didnt even had a single memory of her childhood (when the trafficking happened). she only regained her memories at 37 years old, through therapy
@HaysiKing
@HaysiKing 7 жыл бұрын
She probably come from a more wealthy family. Maybe a party favorite family. Now she's here wanting a good life and needs to embellish
@urwrong1713
@urwrong1713 3 жыл бұрын
@@freechinastopuighurgenocid8716 are you denying that she wasn't an elite back in nk?
@urwrong1713
@urwrong1713 3 жыл бұрын
@@freechinastopuighurgenocid8716 Owh Really? Average peasants can't visit pyongyang. Look at this photo of her from her childhood: pin.it/7Hy044Y She is standing in front of Mansudae Art theatre in Pyongyang. Look at her clothes; it looks brand new, has "princess" written in English and is super clean. Now compare her clothes with an actual average peasant kid in nk: pin.it/5d1O3s3 This kid's clothes are dirty and old. I'll show one more photo, its her parent's photo: pin.it/4ADQoET Listen to what Yeonmi says on this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o6uWn62frparhZI She says her moms tops and chequered pants were all imported from ilbon (Japan) and adds, “My mum even carried around a Chanel bag in North Korea”. To which the host is dumbfounded and asks another defector if this makes her classified as rich in nk to which that defector says "yes". Are you still going to say she was just an average peasant there?
@urwrong1713
@urwrong1713 3 жыл бұрын
@@freechinastopuighurgenocid8716 she didn't eat bugs. Both she and her mom in 2013 (before she became famous and changed her story) said they never went hungry. Here's that interview: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b3SoYquJhp6giM0
@urwrong1713
@urwrong1713 3 жыл бұрын
@@freechinastopuighurgenocid8716 lol keep on being a blind follower
@saramj7269
@saramj7269 3 жыл бұрын
@@urwrong1713 what are you talking about? Have you seen how tiny she is? That's a consequence of malnutrition. Read her book instead of watching random and biased videos.
@WeirdLittleFlower
@WeirdLittleFlower 3 жыл бұрын
Guys, you have think about that she still has somewhere family in North Korea so I bet she changing the story to protect them? Because of you escape from there, your family will pay for it as well.
@grospipo20
@grospipo20 3 жыл бұрын
There are inconsistencies about her chicago stories too.
@drunkenek
@drunkenek 2 жыл бұрын
Her story sounds like “Escape from Camp 14”. 🤔
@notthefather3919
@notthefather3919 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, so you use this ONE person to cast doubt on all North Korean defectors?
@biggiesmalls6270
@biggiesmalls6270 4 жыл бұрын
nah there's others too they're all kulaks being promoted by imperialist media
@NintendoAmy
@NintendoAmy 4 жыл бұрын
The video shows multiple people... why are you saying we shouldn't doubt anecdotes? You seem to not care about facts but have an emotional investment into this. We should be skeptical of any anecdote.
@85MasterV
@85MasterV 3 жыл бұрын
@@biggiesmalls6270 Did it every occur to you that you could be wrong, since there are mounds of evidence of DPRK wrongdoing.. and realizing so would mean you are an insensitive prick living inside cognitive dissonance?
@vortex162
@vortex162 3 жыл бұрын
@@85MasterV show us the "evidence"!!!!
@85MasterV
@85MasterV 3 жыл бұрын
@@vortex162 LOL.. a quick sat image you can search on google shows how f'd up NK is and lacking basic things the rest of the world has like power and lighting..
@Money-talking
@Money-talking 3 жыл бұрын
I was really looking for more profound discrepancies...
@biscuiteminecraft
@biscuiteminecraft 6 жыл бұрын
North Korea isn't as strict as you think. They got stores with PCs, High Quality Cameras and tons of stuff. Everyone can own a car, there is even traffic and you can actually live there. There is an Indonesian guy on YT that lives in North Korea.
@Jerichonoy
@Jerichonoy 5 жыл бұрын
Then you should visit north korea
@ericlouclair2585
@ericlouclair2585 5 жыл бұрын
Throw you to north korea!
@jordynsimmons1107
@jordynsimmons1107 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jerichonoy people have lol and they said its a good country
@Jerichonoy
@Jerichonoy 4 жыл бұрын
@@jordynsimmons1107 Are you fricking serious? I hope that youre joking because obiviously that's not the case.If it's a good country why do all those people trying desperately to get out,even risking their own life to get out of the country(dont believe me,search for "Daring Escape from North Korea" on the Internet).If it's a good country why do people there live in constant fear of their goverment.If it's a good country why do they have a law that imprisoned 3 generations of the family for a crime?? (Do you think that's a good country?!?!?!) I have hundreds of more example but i dont want to waste my time listing them all. People that visited there and said it's a good country because it's what the regime want you to believe,when one visit there they are under constant company of a "tour guide" to show them the good side of north korea (Dont believe me,search Vice visiting North Korea,you'll find guys just staring at a google home screen when the regime showoff the regime is technologically advanced.) Hopefully you'll realize what a horrible country North Korea is,it's a shame that in the 21st century a country as horrible as north korea still exist in the world.I hope for the best for korean reunification
@Jerichonoy
@Jerichonoy 4 жыл бұрын
@Hussein kzbin.info/www/bejne/foezm6J7g5aUbs0
@dontworryaboutit5490
@dontworryaboutit5490 Жыл бұрын
They’re just mad that North Korea is the GOAT. Long Live Chang who made the sun and swallows all the rain
@damnebeggar843
@damnebeggar843 6 жыл бұрын
Ever read robert kiyosakis book that says if you can hold 2 seemingly contradictory facts in your mind as true, you might be about to learn something that was not previously a part of your reality? Ever think she had to live off the land for a few months?
@gappy1361
@gappy1361 6 жыл бұрын
I think it's quite obvious in the way she talks at 0.54 that she is not telling the truth. Some details has left the interviewer to just put words in her mouth such as the "dragonfly" thing.
@alanatransify
@alanatransify 4 жыл бұрын
Many of them tell lies, but many others don’t
@Zen-rw2fz
@Zen-rw2fz 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah there's some that miss the north and even decided to move back
@wheresmyeyebrow1608
@wheresmyeyebrow1608 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zen-rw2fz only 25 out of 10k since 2012 returned and out of those 5 came back to SK
@Phos67
@Phos67 3 жыл бұрын
@@elmirbratic1211 Nope.
@giseldmello7562
@giseldmello7562 6 жыл бұрын
While she gave the speech in the video it wasn't shown she even said "Three ways of helping North Korean people"why would she say that?if she was a terrorist or paid(my opinion)
@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489
@mychevysparkevdidntcatchfi1489 3 жыл бұрын
13 year old terrorist? That's the age she escaped North Korea.
@blackjack8957
@blackjack8957 3 жыл бұрын
FYI, among Korean standard, their words like 'promise' and 'lie' don't mean our sense. These words are understood by their short term of memory, thus they are 'good / bad schedules or conditions'. It takes a huge long time to understand this, especially people live in a honest society.
@maryjunemcclaino9
@maryjunemcclaino9 6 жыл бұрын
The U.S. Department of the Treasury added the young ruler, along with 10 other North Korean individuals and five entities, to the U.S. sanctions list today. "Human rights abuses in the DPRK are among the worst in the world," U.S. Department of State spokesman John Kirby said in a statement today. "The government continues to commit extrajudicial killings, enforced disappearances, arbitrary arrest and detention, forced labor and torture. Many of these abuses are committed in the political prison camps, where an estimated 80,000 to 120,000 individuals are detained, including children and family members of the accused." The department added that this is part of "the most comprehensive U.S. government effort to date" to identify and sanction North Korea's leaders responsible for the widespread abuses -- which they hope will "send a signal to all government officials who might be responsible for human rights abuses." Kim is among 23 total North Korean individuals and entities cited in a report released by the U.S. Department of State today for their role in serious human rights violations, hunting down defectors or censorship in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. U.S. officials gathered the names with the cooperation of other governments, international organizations and civil society groups
@molls127
@molls127 3 жыл бұрын
because trauma effects your memory recall. no need to watch the video.
@deliadeliani9742
@deliadeliani9742 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding trauma : How do you know that? Have you ever conducted any extensive fact-checking research on her personal life-story and the topics she is talking about? Where is your facts & evidence in order to verify / confirm /support her claims? You must provide us with ( in the first place) the solid & verifiable information about her personal life independent from her own claims, before you can talk about trauma! This argument is not valid! Because you start from a presumption , an idea regarding her life story (btw , which version of it?!!!!) that is taken to be true, and used as the basis for other ideas (such as trauma), although it is not known for certain. It's also a circular argumentation: By using trauma you want to convince us that she had a terrible life, and by pointing to her terrible life experiences as basis for her trauma! In fact, None of them are independently supported or verified by any evidence. Her contradictions, distortions & lies can't be excused away or justified. So many commenters here have made asinine remarks about trauma, developing memories, age counting differences, etc. in order to deny or deflect the objective facts presented here. Really sad that people become so emotionally invested in someone like Park to the point they are unable or unwilling to critically analyze the reality & the facts that clearly demonstrate her manipulation & fabrication of the facts. *She can't remember it consistently which is a problem with people who make things up since things that actually happened are just plain easier to remember than things you made up for profit! An example :* *The date of their escape to China :* 1 - Yeonmi and her mother paid a smuggler to take them across the Yalu River and into China. They were escaping a repressive regime but also wanted to find Eunmi, Yeonmi’s older sister, who had fled North Korea *one week earlier.* (Yeonmi Park shares the harrowing tale of her liberation from North Korea. Apr. 15, 2016 From the book In Order to Live) 2 - we decided we had no choice but to try to escape to China. My sister went to a broker and travelled to China ahead of us, my mother and I followed her *the next day.* (Here, the 22-year-old tells Stylist.co.uk of her arduous escape from North Korea. 29. jun. 2016) 3 - Speaking to Express.co.uk she explained: “It was 2007 and I was 13. “My sister left on March 26 and *four days later* my mum and I followed her. Wed, Nov 18, 2020 Can you see these different numbers of days? In her book one week after, in 2 other interviews next day and 4 days? Version. 3 is from last year!!! She is not a good liar!! Which of them is part of her real life story? And how do you want to figure it out? So then, her book is worthless and fake like herself, a fictive novel, not an authentic biography! Wake up!
@daninraleigh
@daninraleigh 3 жыл бұрын
Why does the captioner lie about what the actor says? I never heard of the word "inconstancy" before.
@raynawu9390
@raynawu9390 6 жыл бұрын
Because someone pays money to them and educate them how to speak in public. I’m so disgusting of these defectors. They crossed the border illegally to China. We Chinese people accepted them with our kind heart. Without the helps of Chinese people, they will be catch and send back to North Korea by Chinese police. Remember you are an illegal immigrant. We are helping you because we are sympathize with your sufferings. And you should thankful to us. Sending you back to North Korea is normal and reasonable since North Korea is your homeland. You are keep blaming Chinese people are human traffickers and mafia in the public without any thanks to them. I’m speechless.
@alicethekiller7869
@alicethekiller7869 6 жыл бұрын
So raping North Koreans just cuz you didn’t send them back is fine? Or treating them like shit cuz you didn’t send them back is fine too? Like don’t try to make China seem worse than it is tbh no one would care about the bads of China at the moment when we have the huge problem right before our eyes to distract us from Goddamn China.
@Jerichonoy
@Jerichonoy 5 жыл бұрын
R Wu HAHAHAHA I HOPE YOURE JOKING IF NOT,YOU ARE SOO FULL OF SHIT
@miloradparvanov9596
@miloradparvanov9596 6 жыл бұрын
Of course they lie a lot in order to show and overemphasize their suffering, ensure others about the loyalty to the new system just in order to gain benefits and advantages and the best starting point.
@SyenPie
@SyenPie 3 жыл бұрын
That's a long way of saying "to maximize profits". There's a reason viewers are attracted to crazy bizarre exposures about North Korea, regardless of if they're actually true or not.
@GatCat
@GatCat 2 жыл бұрын
It seems like counterfeiting has been ingrained within their culture. Its as if lying doesn’t matter, as long as the result is acquired. This goes into regulations, counterfeit goods, services etc.
@meganoobbg3387
@meganoobbg3387 3 жыл бұрын
I think these north korean defectors watched more than one Hollywood movie before they left North Korea.
@laracahow6303
@laracahow6303 3 жыл бұрын
Language barrier and trauma. Actually very common with North Koreans and getting their story straight
@deliadeliani9742
@deliadeliani9742 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding trauma : How do you know that? Have you ever conducted any extensive fact-checking research on her personal life-story and the topics she is talking about? Where is your facts & evidence in order to verify / confirm /support her claims? You must provide us with ( in the first place) the solid & verifiable information about her personal life independent from her own claims, before you can talk about trauma! This argument is not valid! Because you start from a presumption , an idea regarding her life story (btw , which version of it?!!!!) that is taken to be true, and used as the basis for other ideas (such as trauma), although it is not known for certain. It's also a circular argumentation: By using trauma you want to convince us that she had a terrible life, and by pointing to her terrible life experiences as basis for her trauma! In fact, None of them are independently supported or verified by any evidence. Her contradictions, distortions & lies can't be excused away or justified. So many commenters here have made asinine remarks about trauma, developing memories, age counting differences, etc. in order to deny or deflect the objective facts presented here. Really sad that people become so emotionally invested in someone like Park to the point they are unable or unwilling to critically analyze the reality & the facts that clearly demonstrate her manipulation & fabrication of the facts. *She can't remember it consistently which is a problem with people who make things up since things that actually happened are just plain easier to remember than things you made up for profit! An example :* *The date of their escape to China :* 1 - Yeonmi and her mother paid a smuggler to take them across the Yalu River and into China. They were escaping a repressive regime but also wanted to find Eunmi, Yeonmi’s older sister, who had fled North Korea *one week earlier.* (Yeonmi Park shares the harrowing tale of her liberation from North Korea. Apr. 15, 2016 From the book In Order to Live) 2 - we decided we had no choice but to try to escape to China. My sister went to a broker and travelled to China ahead of us, my mother and I followed her *the next day.* (Here, the 22-year-old tells Stylist.co.uk of her arduous escape from North Korea. 29. jun. 2016) 3 - Speaking to Express.co.uk she explained: “It was 2007 and I was 13. “My sister left on March 26 and *four days later* my mum and I followed her. Wed, Nov 18, 2020 Can you see these different numbers of days? In her book one week after, in 2 other interviews next day and 4 days? Version. 3 is from last year!!! She is not a good liar!! Which of them is part of her real life story? And how do you want to figure it out? So then, her book is worthless and fake like herself, a fictive novel, not an authentic biography! Wake up!
@debd7631
@debd7631 2 жыл бұрын
@@deliadeliani9742 if you have ever spoken to someone who has suffered significant trauma, their ability to accurately and effectively tell their story is extremely limited. It's one of the reason that victims of extreme domestic violence often get accused of lying because of apparent discrepancies in their retelling. Sometimes in the beginning they are reluctant to release all of the details or even struggle to remember them clearly. It can take a long time for them to actually know what the truth was themselves.
@Unknown-sb4mi
@Unknown-sb4mi 2 жыл бұрын
@@debd7631 as someone who suffer of raped I know it’s nothing similar what she said it does confuse us with the truth we forgot some parts when we remembered we tell them since it’s too much to take in
@debd7631
@debd7631 2 жыл бұрын
@@Unknown-sb4mi I apologize, I cant really tell if you are disagreeing with what I said or adding to it. Though I've had some personal trauma myself...I also work with elderly victims of trauma and it takes a lot of work to get a coherent telling of the events. Sometimes its reluctance to tell it, sometimes its embarrassment about being a victim, sometimes the events are so jumbled in their mind that it takes several conversations to put the puzzle together, sometimes the story will change a bit since it is the first time they actually got to evaluate and try to understand what happened. The bigger and more profound and longterm the trauma is...the harder and more often the timeline gets updated and changed before it becomes a coherent telling of events. Sometime some parts of the trauma never become untangled because they have no reference available to make sense of it.
@NPC584
@NPC584 Жыл бұрын
Well of course Typical white Supremacist Expecting everyone in the world to speak English properly
@gravitypulls2674
@gravitypulls2674 4 жыл бұрын
What’s that guy’s name? The guy who made the video
@adenovirus.
@adenovirus. 6 жыл бұрын
with regards to NK generally we really dont know what to believe
@fordgt402
@fordgt402 6 жыл бұрын
The eyes when she giving speech on stage, a give away
@valentinadifirenze7027
@valentinadifirenze7027 7 жыл бұрын
At 0.54 she answered looking on her right side : liar's eyes
@henrykinssinger4203
@henrykinssinger4203 6 жыл бұрын
LIAR LIAR
@KillingDeadThings
@KillingDeadThings 6 жыл бұрын
pants on fire
@nawkee2008
@nawkee2008 6 жыл бұрын
Eye contact is disrespect in Asian traditions, if u did know.
@KillingDeadThings
@KillingDeadThings 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Didn't know that. Do now :D
@hermansniffler9540
@hermansniffler9540 6 жыл бұрын
>eye contact is disrespect in asian traditions That is fucking bullshit and anyone who's lived in an Asian country for their entire lives knows that.
@violeta6846
@violeta6846 3 жыл бұрын
Park maybe not lying. You can bury the cremated and can still fend for yourself even if with someone.
@deliadeliani9742
@deliadeliani9742 3 жыл бұрын
Her contradictions, distortions & lies can't be excused away or justified. So many commenters here have made asinine remarks about trauma, developing memories, age counting differences, etc. in order to deny or deflect the objective facts presented here. Really sad that people become so emotionally invested in someone like Park to the point they are unable or unwilling to critically analyze the reality & the facts that clearly demonstrate her manipulation & fabrication of the facts. *She can't remember it consistently which is a problem with people who make things up since things that actually happened are just plain easier to remember than things you made up for profit! An example :* *The date of their escape to China :* 1 - Yeonmi and her mother paid a smuggler to take them across the Yalu River and into China. They were escaping a repressive regime but also wanted to find Eunmi, Yeonmi’s older sister, who had fled North Korea *one week earlier.* (Yeonmi Park shares the harrowing tale of her liberation from North Korea. Apr. 15, 2016 From the book In Order to Live) 2 - we decided we had no choice but to try to escape to China. My sister went to a broker and travelled to China ahead of us, my mother and I followed her *the next day.* (Here, the 22-year-old tells Stylist.co.uk of her arduous escape from North Korea. 29. jun. 2016) 3 - Speaking to Express.co.uk she explained: “It was 2007 and I was 13. “My sister left on March 26 and *four days later* my mum and I followed her. Wed, Nov 18, 2020 Can you see these different numbers of days? In her book one week after, in 2 other interviews next day and 4 days? Version. 3 is from last year!!! She is not a good liar!! Which of them is part of her real life story? And how do you want to figure it out? So then, her book is worthless and fake like herself, a fictive novel, not an authentic biography! Wake up!
@InfiniteUniverse88
@InfiniteUniverse88 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the way she smiles when asked "how did you survive?" All of these defectors are terrible actors. I can tell they're actors in the first two seconds of seeing them speak. I'm a human lie detector.
@mustaineforpresident
@mustaineforpresident 3 жыл бұрын
I worked for a news agency in Italy. Not everything is a lie, there is some truth (for example: camps do exist and they're terrible, cities often lack facilities, etc.) but yeah most of em get paid to shoot whatever they think about. Girls tend to lie more than boys. Some get paid a ton of bucks just to make a video.
@jordynsimmons1107
@jordynsimmons1107 3 жыл бұрын
@@mustaineforpresident Actually men lie more than women
@mustaineforpresident
@mustaineforpresident 3 жыл бұрын
@@jordynsimmons1107 In my experience it was the opposite, but I might be wrong. Thanks.
@johnfrank4351
@johnfrank4351 Жыл бұрын
Please use a less annoying audio watermark. Thx!
@melonbarmonster
@melonbarmonster 2 жыл бұрын
It's bc the escapees especially the girls and women have been through shameful experiences, often the worst sexual abuse, but also murder, abandoning family to deaths, theft, involvement with criminals and other abusers, etc. This includes Yeonmi Park. They are hiding portions of their story but the that doesn't diminish the truth about the horrors of their experience.
@Snarl616
@Snarl616 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, and I want to add that (with all respect to Yeonmi Park and other defectors) I think that NKorea defectors are not that bright because they are not used to our mindset, so they think that if they say some truth here and some other there, it will be ok 'cause they are traumatized and people will understand what they've been through. They don't understand this, so that's why they tell different stories.
@sini0071
@sini0071 2 жыл бұрын
She's literally trying to tell how bad her escape was. Why wouldn't she report on all the things that happen? Cause she's a hypocritical lying propagandist. You're stupid
@Jimoshi1
@Jimoshi1 2 жыл бұрын
"especially the girls and women have been through shameful experiences, often the worst sexual abuse, but also murder, abandoning family to deaths, theft, involvement with criminals and other abusers, etc. This includes Yeonmi Park. They are hiding portions of their story but the that doesn't diminish the truth about the horrors of their experience." Yah all that or they just lying to you.
@Jobe-13
@Jobe-13 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like part of it may also be fear of North Korean spies watching them. Some of them feel like they have to keep changing their stories to stay safe, and stay being able to have asylum in other countries. This is something that’s very common among people who are escaping from danger or poor living conditions in other countries. They feel like they have to change their stories so they can keep justifying their political asylum.
@tuanas458
@tuanas458 Жыл бұрын
stop making up bullshit.
@maryjunemcclaino9
@maryjunemcclaino9 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe because they are scared---And when people get traumatize the memories get messed up
@ب_ب-ج4ك
@ب_ب-ج4ك 3 жыл бұрын
@Ched Da ¹/100
@deliadeliani9742
@deliadeliani9742 3 жыл бұрын
"Maybe because they are scared---And when people get traumatize the memories get messed up." Regarding trauma : How do you know that? Have you ever conducted any extensive fact-checking research on her personal life-story and the topics she is talking about? Where is your facts & evidence in order to verify / confirm /support her claims? You must provide us with ( in the first place) the solid & verifiable information about her personal life independent from her own claims, before you can talk about trauma! This argument is not valid! Because you start from a presumption , an idea regarding her life story (btw , which version of it?!!!!) that is taken to be true, and used as the basis for other ideas (such as trauma), although it is not known for certain. It's also a circular argumentation: By using trauma you want to convince us that she had a terrible life, and by pointing to her terrible life experiences as basis for her trauma! In fact, None of them are independently supported or verified by any evidence. Her contradictions, distortions & lies can't be excused away or justified. So many commenters here have made asinine remarks about trauma, developing memories, age counting differences, etc. in order to deny or deflect the objective facts presented here. Really sad that people become so emotionally invested in someone like Park to the point they are unable or unwilling to critically analyze the reality & the facts that clearly demonstrate her manipulation & fabrication of the facts. *She can't remember it consistently which is a problem with people who make things up since things that actually happened are just plain easier to remember than things you made up for profit! An example :* *The date of their escape to China :* 1 - Yeonmi and her mother paid a smuggler to take them across the Yalu River and into China. They were escaping a repressive regime but also wanted to find Eunmi, Yeonmi’s older sister, who had fled North Korea *one week earlier.* (Yeonmi Park shares the harrowing tale of her liberation from North Korea. Apr. 15, 2016 From the book In Order to Live) 2 - we decided we had no choice but to try to escape to China. My sister went to a broker and travelled to China ahead of us, my mother and I followed her *the next day.* (Here, the 22-year-old tells Stylist.co.uk of her arduous escape from North Korea. 29. jun. 2016) 3 - Speaking to Express.co.uk she explained: “It was 2007 and I was 13. “My sister left on March 26 and *four days later* my mum and I followed her. Wed, Nov 18, 2020 Can you see these different numbers of days? In her book one week after, in 2 other interviews next day and 4 days? Version. 3 is from last year!!! She is not a good liar!! Which of them is part of her real life story? And how do you want to figure it out? So then, her book is worthless and fake like herself, a fictive novel, not an authentic biography! Wake up!
@memoobaba
@memoobaba 5 жыл бұрын
a lot of defectors are paid a lot of money to make random shit up
@tulayamalavenapi4028
@tulayamalavenapi4028 3 жыл бұрын
& likely set up to send that $$$$ to DPRK???
@deliadeliani9742
@deliadeliani9742 3 жыл бұрын
Her contradictions, distortions & lies can't be excused away or justified. So many commenters here have made asinine remarks about trauma, developing memories, age counting differences, etc. in order to deny or deflect the objective facts presented here. Really sad that people become so emotionally invested in someone like Park to the point they are unable or unwilling to critically analyze the reality & the facts that clearly demonstrate her manipulation & fabrication of the facts. *She can't remember it consistently which is a problem with people who make things up since things that actually happened are just plain easier to remember than things you made up for profit! An example :* *The date of their escape to China :* 1 - Yeonmi and her mother paid a smuggler to take them across the Yalu River and into China. They were escaping a repressive regime but also wanted to find Eunmi, Yeonmi’s older sister, who had fled North Korea *one week earlier.* (Yeonmi Park shares the harrowing tale of her liberation from North Korea. Apr. 15, 2016 From the book In Order to Live) 2 - we decided we had no choice but to try to escape to China. My sister went to a broker and travelled to China ahead of us, my mother and I followed her *the next day.* (Here, the 22-year-old tells Stylist.co.uk of her arduous escape from North Korea. 29. jun. 2016) 3 - Speaking to Express.co.uk she explained: “It was 2007 and I was 13. “My sister left on March 26 and *four days later* my mum and I followed her. Wed, Nov 18, 2020 Can you see these different numbers of days? In her book one week after, in 2 other interviews next day and 4 days? Version. 3 is from last year!!! She is not a good liar!! Which of them is part of her real life story? And how do you want to figure it out? So then, her book is worthless and fake like herself, a fictive novel, not an authentic biography! Wake up!
@Clo_Dub
@Clo_Dub 2 жыл бұрын
Could it be that they’re so traumatised that they’re confused? I’d be pretty fucked up living there and then escaping.
@MewDenise
@MewDenise 6 жыл бұрын
look... if she was an actor or a spy... why would she make it so obvious? Why choose her if she can't get away with it?
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