Why Do Progressives Hate The Working Class?

[@iamwrong2239]

I had a inkling that the progressive ideology was nothing more than a ideology for rich people. Glad to know its true

[@MisterVyle]

Only rich people can afford to be this divorced from reality. The rest of us would starve.

[@PeterDivine]

Not quite- it's an ideology for lazy, entitled people. Such an ideology encompasses both the spoiled champagne socialist brat and the NEET pseudo-intellectual reddit dogwalker.

[@cameraman502]

The term for that is luxury belief

[@Mr.Peterschmidt]

I think Dev alluded to it before. Saying they were "designer beliefs" or something. Like he said, how rich people would wear designer clothes until pretty much everybody could afford designer clothes. Or they play "designer sports" like golf. Well, golf is more accessible now.

[@highbread817]

Yep, this sealed it for me with most of the left online. Zero connect with anyone who works for a living. Also very ignorant Rich people benefit more from inflation than anyone, in 90% of businesses or positions. something they don't wanna draw attention too. Progressives claiming this is elite astroturfing has shown me they're as brain dead as the 'hicks' they ridicule

[@MakkenziKreiga]

The fact that Marxism in the West is a Bourgeoisie ideology is a self defeating irony I will always love.

[@yokai1235]

karl marx was a bourgeoisie himself

[@KASHKUR_7.62]

​@@yokai1235Worst he was a freeloader leech living from the money of a friend and abandoned his family

[@veiddimaddur8354]

​@@yokai1235 He was the prototypical NEET

[@yokai1235]

@@veiddimaddur8354 no he was the original 30 years old university student not a neet

[@WoodEe-zq6qv]

@@yokai1235 Nah his father supported him financially, and then Engels. Marx was literally the prototypical modern socialist - hates life, lives on other people's money, no idea how the real world works because he was so sheltered he never needed to interact with it

[@LtHavoc62]

I came to a similar conclusion after conversations with people on the left about immigration. When you bring up that a constant flow of unskilled labor will naturally depress wages for the poor, the response is usually some form of "but they need to come here for a better life" or "oh, so you just hate brown people." Great video Dev

[@JTruong3rd]

Usually thats a desperate move that screams they got no good counterpoint and i reply with "And you just hate poor black people, got it" Oh boy do their minds break.

[@simshengvue5799]

People who immigrate to the US are idiots . They always end up believing the racist rhetoric coming from the democrats and vote for them. Even if all of their values are conservative.

[@markzuckergecko621]

They have to turn immigration into a racial issue, so they can avoid having an actual conversation about the issues. Because they can't square their beliefs about supporting the working class with their beliefs about immigration, because it doesn't square.

[@markzuckergecko621]

​@@JTruong3rdwhat's hilarious to me is how they claim to care so much about poor black people but love to smirk and laugh about all the poor dumb hillbilly conservatives. Apparently it's white people's fault if they're poor, and it's also white people's fault when black people are poor.

[@cptndunsel2670]

Bernie Sanders used to echo this exact sentiment before it became sacrilege for the Left to do so.

[@cookiecreep9204]

It's an ideology for rich kids with no meaning to their life, of course they hate honest working people. They see working class as "dirty" and working manual labor as shameful.

[@phantom8926]

Funny enough, I remember seeing cartoons mocking them and labeling any kind of manual labor as nothing more than disgusting work for the average red neck hick. Now, that very same trope is flipped on its head and it's the red neck hick that's mocking manual labor while the hippies pat themselves on the back.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

The amount of people I see complaining about landlords, that live with their parents lol

[@Sidian]

If you are working class and poor this is because your work is considered less valuable in the market. Is that something to be proud of? This is what capitalists apparently like, and resist trying to change by redistributing wealth from the rich kids you talk about, who did nothing to earn their wealth, whilst blue collar workers slave away.

[@tuseroni6085]

@@Sidian why do you assume rich people did nothing to earn their wealth. a very small percentage of rich people got their wealth through inheritance, and most wealth disappears after 3 generations. people constantly move into and out of the upper class. i don't have a problem with wealthy people, it's when they try to force their way of life on other people, or work to make the life of the poor even worse i take issue with. if a rich person wants to buy a yacht and a giant mansion with a gold plated toilet IDGAF, when they advocate for, and push policies, that harm other people then i take umbrage. as for poor work being less valued by the market...this is true. it is work that requires less skill and thus can be done by almost anyone, and so more people means more productivity which means the products of that labour are worth less. there is nothing wrong with that, doesn't mean the people DOING the work are any less valuable. in the eyes of god all men are equal.

[@TransRoofKorean]

They've been taught resentment by our education system, by the design of socialists. Resentment is the most dangerous thing to teach children or young adults. Nietzsche described them 135 years ago kzbin.info/www/bejne/babFYYd5f92qrbs

[@nautdead3197]

Hassan is the most obvious case of luxury beliefs being a signal for societial status.

[@AJadedLizard]

You mean Cenk's Nephew?

[@rizkiramadhan9266]

He's the most capitalist man on KZbin

[@Amin-al-Husseini_1941picture]

He cares so much about the power class and working class that he does'nt even pay them, just like Marx And capitalism was supposed to be "the cruel master" lol

[@your_waifu_hates_you]

@@AJadedLizard yes chunks nephew

[@sebastianbardon391]

How is Hasan an obvious case of luxury beliefs?

[@uruk_bye1232]

I think it's just a common "Southern Accent = Republican Deplorable" kind of thing. Lived in the south my whole life, and the disdain we get is surprising.

[@hertzwave8001]

half the english speaking world probably thinks people with a southern accent are some form of racist by default, yes

[@OriginalBongoliath]

Leftoids are still stuck on the Civil War and slavery. For people who say they are all about progress and moving forward they sure can't let go of the past.....

[@Ultrad321]

Same here brother. Southern proud

[@skirk248]

As a Texan. I think it's got a lot to do with them feeling superior since the south is always called the bad guy in history

[@HaggisMuncher-69-420]

Well bless your heart.

[@slimeinabox]

“We support the working class” “How dare the working class want whats good for them!”

[@Gulgathydra]

No no no... _they don't know what's good for them. That's for their betters to decide._

[@Trisket]

"YoU aRe VoTiNg AgAiNsT yOuR oWn InTeReStS"

[@georgebailey8179]

"Sure socialism was terrible for the working class every time it was tried, but don't you understand that this time it will be good for you?"

[@gabrielclark1425]

​@@Trisket"Sure, I don't know who you are or what circumstances you're laboring under, but I know more about your needs and wants than you do so sit down and shut up you dirty little country person!"

[@ExtreamClownTown]

Working class: "Are you pissing on me right now?" Progressive: "no its just raining! trust me!" working class: "I'm call'n the police" Progressive:"That's racist!"

[@N4chtigall]

What I find extremely interesting is that for some reason left is perfectly fine with being anti-government... But when right is doing the same thing then it's suddenly "a dangerous trend" or "right wing extremism"...

[@zerocool5395]

It's ok to defund the police in Seattle and Portland, it's also ok to attack government buildings in those areas. But we must give the Capitol police more money because what the MAGAs did when they stormed the Capitol building was terrible... 😂

[@gabrielhill995]

It’s because historically the right wing populists that revolted didn’t immediately lead to socialism but instead lead to the power vacuum that allowed figure heads trained in their positions to garner power and instead create their own economic systems outside of socialism

[@davidmartinez52420]

There are too many on the Left that are so opposed to being on the opposite side of any issues Republican's support that they will turn their back on the ideals they once espoused if Republicans end up agreeing.

[@rwberger6]

Forget the name for it but its a strategy of a democrat election strategist from decades ago. Basically you demonize anything your opponent does even if you're doing it too.

[@FM9k]

Because they're operating on a low grade corruption of friend/enemy logic. Ignore the words and distill the actual positions and it's clearly: "I want the state to reward my friends and punish my enemies." Full stop. Don't search for higher principles to call hypocrisy, because you'll waste oxygen. The principle being applied, and zealously, is "friend good, enemy bad". It is not a reasonable position and is this immune to reason.

[@rogierb5945]

I left the left partially because of this issue. For example; whenever I proposed to my fellow leftists to lower taxes on the poor or even make the first 30.000 or so dollars tax free they would attack me and say that we should tax the rich instead. Not to mention their obsession with luxury ideas or straight up harmful ideas like mass immigration and the green transition. Whenever I asked; 'how is this going to affect the poor' they got mad. I realized they didnt give a rats ass about the poor and were only resentful of the rich despite being fairly rich and well off themselves. smh.

[@juliekring7574]

As a liberal I too have this major criticism. What made our economy strong in the past was the upward mobility of the lower/working class into the middle class, not the middle class into the upper middle class, which is what they want. You never hear liberals talking about labor rights or trust busting anymore. It's all "tax the rich so I can have free college and healthcare" Granted, a single payer system would be a benefit to the working class in theory, but that's never the actual motivation for advocating for single payer. They talk about income inequality but it's always that the rich are making too much money, not that the poor are not making enough money to survive. In fact, I have never heard a clear answer from the left on what a working class person would need in order to be living a good life while still in the working class. It's always "learn to code" as if we don't need people to manufacture steel.

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

@@juliekring7574 They are also INCREDIBLY disloyal based on Haidt's moral foundations. In my sociology class I convinced the professor to publicly marginalise climate change as a movement. How? "poor people vote conservative, climate change isn't politically feasible until poverty is dealt with" I got a literal round of applause.. they will advocate for torching the economy for a cause and then drop that cause on a dime. I just can't stand with people like that.

[@juliekring7574]

@@dontcallthemliberals3316 Better yet - they will claim to be anti-racist but then shoot down affordable housing developments in places like Berkeley and Oakland because of the "environmental impacts" It's two sides of the same coin, but essentially any goalpost can move as long as they can position themselves as the moral authority. There is no consistent set of tactics for achieving policy goals, just esoteric advocacy positions that have no real actionable ways to be implemented.

[@chrisscott6254]

@@juliekring7574 . . . *sniffle* I have finally found my people. They care more about pissing on people richer then them rather then helping people poorer then them. To be honest, I’d consider them not actually _rich_ because then that would make them either born into that wealth or having earned it - but by being Middle class instead. It’s a primarily Middle Class movement anyways.

[@Takeshi357]

I'm struggling to understand this. "Lowering the taxes on the poor" and "raising the taxes on the rich" aren't mutually exclusive, so what gives??

[@PhattyBolger]

The truth is that what is considered "the Right" isn't even right-wing. It's been said so many times now, but the Left has gone so far left that they've dragged the entire political spectrum along with them. Oliver Anthony said himself that he's a moderate. I'm a moderate. Most of the people I watch are political moderates, but we get called Nazis all the time for having moderate views that were the norm less than 10 year ago.

[@LynetteTheMadScientist]

The Left has always been trending in this direction. We tried to warn you

[@maschaorsomething]

And nationalism used to be left-wing. Great, and? Now it isn't anymore.

[@Winterascent]

@@maschaorsomethingYou trolled this video hard.

[@nahumhernandezg2188]

​@@maschaorsomething typical low KQ individual

[@jacobr5627]

What are your economic views? I am on the left both socially & economically but I also hate how politics in the US are dominated so much by culture war issues.

[@LokiScarletWasHere]

Champagne socialist urbanists: "You just hate poor people" Also champagne socialist urbanists: "Man I just hate poor people"

[@Br0ckR0cket]

to be fair, poor people are not intrinsically morally good just because they're poor, and a lot of them are just as bigoted towards the rich as the rich are bigoted towards them.

[@LokiScarletWasHere]

@@Br0ckR0cket Your... Point?

[@TrickyMario7654]

Simple, they only want to use the working class as pawns.

[@TurtleChad1]

My toddler came out as trans. Should I support their decision?

[@CheeseOfMasters]

Pretty apparent when they want everything for free. They're snobs.

[@potatortheomnipotentspud]

​@@TurtleChad1Sounds like you're making that shit up dude. (Don't worry, I'm in on the joke.)

[@mcfarvo]

​@@potatortheomnipotentspudyeah, they are all making that stuff up ;) (get it? Get what "that stuff" is referring to??))

[@Jay-gf8tm]

​@@TurtleChad1if you don't, you're denying their existence. Might as well not even be real.

[@hardromeo436]

Not only is the Bud Light boycott a true consumer boycott, it's massive impact might make it THE consumer boycott

[@MissionSilo]

I see right wingers still buying budweiser. So clueless

[@mattd5240]

I'm so glad it's basically a dead brand now.

[@senecavermeulen8110]

dylan mulvaney is incredibly cringy and current trans ideology gets pretty wild, but it’s a little sad our big consumer boycott was about degeneracy and not something more ethics-based, like child labor or something

[@casualcausalityy]

Yeah I was surprised SFO found that boycott silly. I thought it sent a very important message to corporations

[@psycholuigiman]

@@senecavermeulen8110 I mean, Dylan Mulvaney's audience was primarily tiktok users. In other words, underage consumers. If stopping the young and impressionable from drinking isn't ethical enough, there was also the whole thing of Dylan being an advocate for pre-puberty transitioning. In other words, stifling the natural growth of children so they can more easily have their genitals ruined based on a dicsion they made when they were 11 or 12. Seems pretty ethical to me. There were lots of different reasons for the boycott. Some of them were pretty ethical.

[@LookingGlass69]

Pinkos: workings class let your voice be heard! Workers: I hate pedos Pinkos: woah buddy, that's enough expression for today

[@orboakin8074]

As a Nigerian-immigrant in North America, the reaction to these songs by the left, and wokeness in general, juat further proves to me how these ideologies are just for the unproductive upper-class who have no real problems or struggles and need something to gove them meaning. That is also why these ideologies are rejected by the working classes and even many inmigrants who actually have to work and struggle.

[@robbobbrah8953]

Nigerians are why I have come to understand the utter stupidity regarding the concept of race. I've never come across a Nigerian that sucks as a human-being, and I love their criticism of entitled Black Americans. I'm glad you're here, as you all certainly belong.

[@TheBrazilRules]

That is where the First World Problem term comes from.

[@maschaorsomething]

Couldn't be farther from the truth. So many of us are actively suffering from poverty and fucking pissed that we can barely afford to live. We just hate other poor fuckers who use that as an excuse to bring even greater pain onto *other* poor fuckers again. Why can't I just cry about being poor without someone also punching me in the face for mistaking me for a transwoman?

[@leroysanchino]

@@maschaorsomethingI’m having a really hard time trying to tell if you’re trolling or not lmao

[@Tential1]

​@@leroysanchinogave me a laugh though

[@connoromalley4004]

This is like the inverse of "never ask a white supremacist the race of his girlfriend".

[@sneed.]

BLEACHED

[@einfachignorieren6156]

​@@sneed.Conquer not BE conquered Heil

[@Laughing_Chinaman]

@@sneed. COLONIZED

[@libertatemadvocatus1797]

I watch a lot of prison KZbin channels and a lot of the ex-cons say the members of those skinhead gangs often have black or Latino girlfriends and wives. There's these big musclebound skinheads covered in Neo-Nazi ink and they have a black wife who visits them every weekend. It seems especially common in Southern states like Tennessee and Georgia.

[@martymcfly88mph35]

Asian - plowing the rice fields to create the MR.

[@Cole-xq2tl]

That camper he lives in, he bought for 750 bucks off Craigslist and it has a leaking roof, so he has a tarp over it. He's such a bougie fraud, amirite?

[@Galvvy]

He could've been a middle class dude from a city somewhere and it still wouldn't remove the truth coming out of that man's heart.

[@williamjenkins4913]

@@Galvvy Or the sheer beauty of that song

[@LynetteTheMadScientist]

I laughed and had to pause the video when he said 100,000 dollars worth of land LMAO a WHOLE 100,000?? That’s like maybe 2 acres with no development

[@joekewl7539]

Because the working class knows damn well progressive doctrine will destroy them and everything they love, so as its most thorough victim, how can they NOT oppose it? Which of course in a perfect feedback loop makes the progs despise them even more.

[@hope-cat4894]

Their revolution will lead to the working class not only losing the properties they own, but it will also lead to them and their families living in perpetual danger as the country rages in a violent war. They'll be sent to work camps and mental institutions for disagreeing with the party. All of this is a working class person's nightmare.

[@dillonblair6491]

Yet the poorest Americans vote Democrat 😂

[@Astr0C0w]

"Rich people bad." "Like rich politicians?" "No no no, they don't count."

[@Tential1]

A lot of people don't know that the politicians are rich, I told one of my neighbors that Nancy Pelosi is one of the best stock traders in the world and she was genuinely confused. She follows every single liberal talking point, is always ready about that stuff but yet didn't know that Nancy Pelosi is stupid rich. They genuinely think democrats are the good guys.

[@jacobr5627]

I unironically agree with this, as long they're fighting for labor rights, a more equitable economic system & governing in a non-corrupt way then they do not count. Champagne socialists care more about the working class than someone like Donald Trump does, even if they do not share their cultural values.

[@stephenvz7852]

A lot of us blue collar people know what the buzzwords mean we just don’t give a fuck.

[@Jack.Nimble]

Act like you don't know what they're talking about then when they explain it, act like they're crazy. Really sets them off.

[@brycewilkins6456]

We don’t put up with bs so they can’t like us

[@BullMooseFox]

I know a lot of them. I just pretend I have no idea. I don't want them to think they own the linguistic space.

[@wesnohathas1993]

The mental and lingual gymnastics leftists pull to make themselves look correct is ridiculous. To talk on their level forces one to speak through a lens that preemptively conforms to their beliefs. It's a cheap trick to talk over arguments and avoid truly engaging in them.

[@LordOfAllusion]

The market socialist worker co-op business model is stupid on its face. “Hey, the 4 of us are going to start a business together and get 25% share of all profits! Yay!” “Oh look, we need to hire 3 more people! Do we all vote to water down our own stake in our business that we started in order to bring on more staff? yes? Cool!” “Oh man! We have to hire 10 MORE people! I am totally fine with going from taking home 25% of profits in my business to just under 6%! This is clearly a stable, reliable business model that has no hope of backfiring on me or leading to dissident factionalism voting me out of my own company!”

[@pathfindersavant3988]

This hilarious thing is, this is also exactly how being a shareholder in a publicly traded corporations/LLC works

[@dfmrcv862]

​@@pathfindersavant3988isn't that because the stocks grow in value with more people buying into them? In a Co-op business model, growth requiring more work would mean you lose money for your labor in spite of doing the same amount of work.

[@peterlockbolvig7518]

The irony is that the idea worker co-op can actually work. Im lacking some finer details but, Danish-Crown started of as a worker co-op. Farmers, in an attempt to compete with Lords and barons, would unify their Resources. And would receive a payback based on how much they had brought. However despite the monetary Compensation being different everyone had an equal say in how and what was produced. They still exist to this day but whether or not they still are a co-op is really up for debate.

[@LordOfAllusion]

@@pathfindersavant3988 Except the difference is shares aren’t re-divided equally every time someone buys out a stock. If I buy 3% of microsoft and the stock divides so more shares can be traded, I still own 3%, it’s just that the number of stocks I own increases. The guy who owns 50.1% of stock in a publicly traded company can’t be out-voted.

[@LordOfAllusion]

@@peterlockbolvig7518 That sounds more like a union than a co-op.

[@Nork490]

“I’m not overly fond of reactionary poor people and I’d like them to not exist if possible.” Imagine wishing an entire group of people didn’t exist.

[@slydoorkeeper4783]

Especially the ones most likely to make it so there is actually food on the table.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

@@slydoorkeeper4783 I'm sure there's never been a famine in a Socialist state before...

[@RachelNichols-writer]

Get rid of the Kulaks. That will fix everything in our glorious Soviet Union.

[@houseofhas9355]

​@@GangsterFrankensteinComputer😂😂😂

[@tuseroni6085]

"i don't want to kill them, i just want them not to be alive anymore"

[@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamer]

Leftists: "The world is ruled by the 1%! We gotta tear them down! Support the little man!" *song comes out bashing rich polticans* Leftists: "ewwww. Not that!" This is why I #LeftTheLeft

[@bocchithean-cap3404]

Progressives when I say muh billionaire: 🤓 Progressives when I say muh billionairestein: 🤬

[@bocchithean-cap3404]

Progressives when I say muh billionaire: 🤓 Progressives when I say muh billionairestein: 🤬

[@DeflatingAtheism]

Just look at how angry they get when MrBeast gives free eye surgeries to blind people. They’re so angry that the taxpayers aren’t footing the bill, and the political class aren’t getting the glory!

[@Amin-al-Husseini_1941picture]

"omg lol, these rightoids don't understand Qanon is just a conspiracy!" "Omg, these sexist RWers deny USAs history of kidnapping women or doing human experimentations!"

[@dillonblair6491]

(And he bashes people poorer than him that are on welfare 😂)

[@JK-cd6zr]

It's simple, really. The working class wants better pay and benefits, not societal collapse and world domination.

[@rath6375]

It's not "overtly racist" to disagree with the platitude "diversity is our strength." The way the phrase is used is like you mentioned _"the Left's insistence on keeping culture separate through denouncing cultural appropriation,"_ among other things. We want the people who come to America to become Americans, not to establish competing, insular enclaves or colonies or political interests within America. Different immigrant peoples bring elements of their culture which may be adopted if they are compatible with our fundamental values. But _solidarity_ is not just our strength, it _is_ strength.

[@wulfricofwessex147]

Dev shitlib moment, move along.

[@notubist]

Well Oliver Anthony also hates the right for defending him against the left, as he took our populist talking points then acts all enlightened centrist saying we co opted his message.

[@Trent-m6j]

We haven't managed to assimilate blacks, in like 400 years. Like, they're still a massive tax burden and crime problem that hates us and riots all the time, and we've been working on their culture for 400 years. Who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to import some more groups of people from the third world? "They'll just assimilate". Right. And iron will just float and the sun will just rise in the West tomorrow. Deductive reasoning means the opposite. Sure. They'll assimilate.

[@LynetteTheMadScientist]

Yeah for someone who seems to understand the Leftist language he really dropped the ball on that one. “Diversity is our strength” is a hard Left tagline and the Right has never touted it. We always insist that people should come legally and assimilate.

[@Mandatory-Fun]

That’s the problem with mass immigration in the way it exists today. You have millions coming from cultures with values far removed from our own so when they get here they see no reason to assimilate as they have plenty of their own people to live around. It worked well in the 1800s and 1900s because most immigrants were from similar cultures with almost the same values which blended well into our own

[@pickeljarsforhillary102]

Communists: Workers of the world UNITE! Workers: Ok. We love this song. Communists: NOT LIKE THAT!!!

[@stinkmonger]

shitting on working-class welfare recipients as worthless parasites like this song does is not "uniting the workers of the world" you fucking dolt

[@alexandru5369]

Yeah Communists and Fascist are two sides of the same coin. Communists are just better with PR

[@stinkmonger]

@@alexandru5369 how to say "i'm politically illiterate" without actually saying it. complete brain rot.

[@alexandru5369]

I'm from actual Communist country the USSR I assure you it's just as bad as Fascism but try again. It's just not obsessed with race and that nonsense . But try again. Don't get why people defend Communism. Even China abandoned it they're just authoritarian which a lot of governments are nowadays anyway @@stinkmonger

[@DeflatingAtheism]

I remember truck drivers uniting in Canada, and Leftists calling them Nazis. A perfect illustration of the difference between Leftism 1.0 and Progressivism- not that Leftists were ever for the working class, but they at least made the effort to pretend they did.

[@donskiver]

Ive said this for a long time. Progressive politics are luxury politics.

[@Augrills]

Progressives have always been hateful. Woodrow Wilson accidentally face women the right to choose because he hated black people that much lol

[@januarysson5633]

When you can afford to adopt a point of view based on virtue signaling because it’s not going to effect you anyway.

[@fawful7457]

Their whole thing is nurture. The right's whole thing is nature. The good old nature v nurture dichotomy.

[@Markunator]

No, they’re not. What do you even think “progressive politics” are?

[@januarysson5633]

@@Markunator This means they’re luxury politics for those who can afford the cost of holding them. The biggest burden is borne by the people who can’t, like the middle class.

[@gonzalot.605]

The working class is interested in working, not sustaining parasites in the public sector.

[@slydoorkeeper4783]

I've said this kinda thing a bit. These people who want free shit and a "no work" like in exchange for their "art" (usually thats what they say they want to do) aren't gonna last long. Eventually they'll be forced like slaves to work, or face the wall. Thats how their revolution will actually turn out.

[@Moe_Posting_Chad]

Remember, child support money is paid to the states via a federal program. That money comes from social security, to ensure that the states prosecute any man may or may not be the father of bastard children. Single mothers regardless of race, ethnicity, or political alignment are the fattest leaches of them all. I am taxed for social security... To pay for single mothers. Single mothers of children that are not mine.

[@fawful7457]

This gives me some Andrew Ryan energy...

[@Moe_Posting_Chad]

@@fawful7457 Women can close their legs. I am taxed before I am paid.

[@gonzalot.605]

@@Moe_Posting_Chad lol lmao even

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

Imagine thinking $100k of land is a sign of wealth. I'm guessing these people aren't paying mortgages.

[@LynetteTheMadScientist]

Right?? I had to pause the video to cackle. That’s like two acres of undeveloped land.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

@@LynetteTheMadScientist average 3 bed houses were I live are about $290k. Looking at $240k for a cheap 3 bed house and a bit over $100k for a flat in the rough part of town.

[@LynetteTheMadScientist]

@@GangsterFrankensteinComputer I was focusing on the fact that they said "land" meaning there's no housing there

[@guerreiroazul3230]

I still remember the only time was discriminated for being poor, i was in college and i was hanging out with this group of people, amongst them there was this guy that was hyper communist (he even wore a Che Guevara shirt.), we were talking about what schools we went to when we were young, both me and the commie went to schools normally called "institute", he throught i went to the same "institute" as him, that was a rich people private school, but when i corrected him and said i went to the public "institute" his face immediately became one of disgust, as if he was looking at a future ex-con. I never forgot that shit.

[@ManCheat2]

Did he try to accuse you of being a trust fund baby first before ya told him?

[@guerreiroazul3230]

@@ManCheat2 nah, i never spoke with him after that and it was probably for the best anyway.

[@dix0n778]

I got your answer to the root of their hatred towards this song: the singer is a ginger. We know how much big companies like Disney feel about them on making movie adaptations that had a ginger as a main character.

[@themongoose9184]

Rolling Stones Paint It Black plays:

[@Squeeble00]

Come on now the disney execs are just dyslexic

[@emilyadams3228]

Gingers are the whitest of the white. Ergo, the most hated by globalists.

[@RacingSnails64]

@@themongoose9184omg

[@RacingSnails64]

@@Squeeble00OMG

[@crispyandspicy6813]

The progs want to forgive college debt but you never hear them say "we should nationalize the Big Uni industry and give free high education to all US citizens". But they have no problem with the same concept being applied to healthcare. Because that would allow the working class to more easily climb the ladder and muddle the pool of middle class politics.

[@eeyun5279]

People want to forgive college debt mostly for financial reasons. An economy doesn’t work very well when the backbone of that economy is straddled with debt. But even beyond that, all the progressives I know who advocate for debt forgiveness DO strongly support academic reform to increase access and spur on economic mobility. So I’m not sure who you’re talking about? Idiots on Twitter? Redditors you argued with? The academic system in the US is extremely heavily subsidized. Free market models don’t work.

[@Martorfunk]

Even tho I disagree with a complete free university system of education I now that you mention just notice how much they actually don't want others to go into it

[@markzuckergecko621]

I actually see them saying that a lot. They just want more free stuff, they don't care who or how it benefits, as long as it benefits them too.

[@markzuckergecko621]

@@amandak.4246 get outta here with that shit, this is 'Murica. We don't want expectations and responsibilities, we just want more stuff! Give it to us now!

[@slydoorkeeper4783]

​@@amandak.4246exactly, and for government health care to function like such, I can see them putting taxes and regulations in other areas to force people to meet their standards.

[@MrCovi2955]

In Marxism it's considered critically important to be "the oppressed," and since the classical "oppressed" in Marxism is the working class, its important to signal that you're on the side of the Cardinal Oppressed. However, that category is currently empty as every single member has been removed based on some technicality (religion, race, gender, political views, etc.). The category of "The Oppressed Worker" is literally an empty hall of statues with none living inside except the abstract saintly belief in an oppressed socialist worker.

[@DeflatingAtheism]

Now the saints are those of the political and bureaucratic class, those- according to their martyr myth- who were cowering under their desks when the bigoted, terroristic Great Unwashed shambled through the halls of their Holy House of Politics.

[@DoctorPhileasFragg]

That's not literal, that's a metaphor.

[@cumcumson5661]

Marxism is just a critique of capitalism and a set of predictions of how those capitalist systems will fall??

[@gideonjones5712]

Man with banjo: government assistance should go to the homeless and starving who really need it, not those who would gorge on the free money. Progressives: How dare you punch down?!?!?!

[@OriginalBongoliath]

Just like that Mr. Beast Wal-Mart giveaway a few years ago. It was supposed to be for a few of his impoverished fans. Word got out then everyone and their mother came who didn't need it and were well-off but wanted free crap anyway. The event got cancelled because of the freeloaders who were well-enough off that screwed over the people that needed it. Same for most on welfare these days. They aren't genuinely disabled or unable to work, they found loopholes and sit on their asses driving Escalades and buying lobster dinners while we have to work for our money and pay taxes for those deadbeats.

[@infantry4lyfe252]

My brother in christ, that's a resonator guitar.

[@LynetteTheMadScientist]

Deadass. Every day at work I see people using foodstamps to buy soda and Little Debbie’s -_-

[@wolfetteplays8894]

Who cares? It is their business.@@LynetteTheMadScientist

[@LynetteTheMadScientist]

@@wolfetteplays8894 It's not their money. It's the taxpayers. So it's the taxpayer's business

[@Azraiel213]

While "diversity is our strength" has always been a massive lie, it *used to be* almost half true in America. The greatest strength of the US was its ability to rapidly integrate and assimilate the large numbers of foreigners who explicitly wanted to become American. Those migrants would bring foreign ideas, perspectives and cultural quirks with them, sure, but often within as little as a single generation, the descendants of those migrants would literally be Americans; feeling as much a part of the experiment as their Anglo and Indian countrymen. This is why the socialist hydra is, if anything, an even greater threat to America than it normally is to the rest of humanity; socialism thrives on mistrust, hatred and division; it targets America at the welds that a normal country does not have. Now that the numbers of migrants coming in have exploded beyond all reason and the government actively preaches Anglophobia and division, those welds are under ever-increasing stress. This is also why the same tactics took much longer to start working against the UK. England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales used to be normal countries bound together in confederation; each home to a single people with deep and ancient roots that could not be sufficiently wedged apart when the hydra targeted relatively minor differences like class.

[@Br0ckR0cket]

I don't think you know what the word socialism means, and your argument reeks of projection. Does socialism thrive on mistrust, hatred and division, or is that fascism? How are you defining "mistrust" "hatred" and "division"? In relation to what? You're making a lot of broad statements here, yet you don't properly explain them. Additionally, the only people I know who are really obsessed with being worried about anglophobia are usually weirdo racists, which you definitely got the vibe of. And I say that as someone who will absolutely acknowledge the unsettling anti-white undertones in a lot of leftoid talking points for what they are: racist hatemongering. But you... you strike me as the sort of guy I wouldn't actually want to talk to at a party even if I agreed with some of the things you said.

[@MrCovi2955]

Blue collar workers tend to be capitalist because they want their hard work to pay off, and in capitalism it does. Rich kids tend to be socialist because they don't want to have to work hard, they want to be given things the way they have their whole lives, and in socialism they believe they'll keep getting that.

[@bacongod4967]

Boom, the nail on the head

[@audie-cashstack-uk4881]

Bingo perfectly put . I had fo restart my life from scratch aged 45 on my 45th birthday 2017 homeless defrauded domestic abuse and a crushed hand I now have a wonderful home a brand new car and 100k in savings why because of capitalism I worked I saved and a had a plan all this took place whilst my ex friends who where trump obsessed and far left screamed at me turned on me gossiped about me stabbed me in the back whilst I was at my lowest... I did what trump wants work save build they screamed there heads off and demanded I vote Labour... I have a new life they continue to be poor have nothing I found tne time we are living in and this experience so telling

[@stinkmonger]

We currently live under capitalism and hard work doesn't pay off. The hardests workers that make up the backbone of human civilization are mostly in poverty. This is EXACTLY what the corporate overlords want. You're pretending to be against the elites while parroting their rhetoric. Fucking delusional bootlicker.

[@Markunator]

In what way does “hard work” pay off under capitalism, exactly?

[@libertatemadvocatus1797]

I think they're more Neo-Feudalist than Socialist. It's why they like some rich people and some corporations, but not others.

[@Shockguey]

Imagine falling for the CIA conspiracy psyop so hard you discount the existence of _Little St. James._

[@phantom8926]

That's why they never get accused of being intelligent.

[@wtf1a1a]

Wait what

[@losernerd9291]

Epstein was innocent.

[@MapleovBacon]

@@GenericProtagonist7 already happening

[@januarysson5633]

Not to mention Ray Epps.

[@voxlknight2155]

I wasn't alive during socialism in Yugoslavia, but we basically had worker coops back then. Everyone who has ever told me what it was like to work there has described it as the most soul sucking experience of their lives. They _especially_ mention how boring the shareholder meetings were.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

Imagine being like 17 and flipping burgers, part time, and being expected to attend meetings and vote about what the company should do.

[@bacongod4967]

Ah but have you considered that it wasn’t real communism? (Sarcasm)

[@hope-cat4894]

So many working class people I know hated school and went to factory work _because_ they like not doing paperwork, didn't want to go to college, and just want to earn a check do they can buy a car or pay rent. Forcing them into shareholders meetings would be a horrible experience for them.

[@Augrills]

I don’t get this argument. I feel like most people I’ve worked low skill labor jobs would love to be at shareholder meetings and have a say on things. What Dev is essentially saying is wagies do not have an opinion or want to be involved in office drama/politics. And every person I’ve ever worked with had tons of opinions and was involved in drama/politics somehow.

[@voxlknight2155]

@@Augrills Maybe when you're a small business. Imagine a company of 5,000 people, all dispersed around the country, deciding what happens in the company and all having an equal say. You could say put it to a vote, but then it'll just take longer for anu change to be made, and who's to say that the majority aren't making a stupid decision that will ruin the company in the long run. Having a smaller pool of executives doesn't changed the fact that there will be those with bad ideas about how to run things, but it will sure as hell make it a lot easier to manage, considering a couple of the executives would have some sort of authority of veto or other.

[@randomcenturion7264]

It is truly baffling and insidious to have people speak so vehemently of doing terrible things for the "Greater Good" of a people they absolutely despise.

[@MrZoichi]

"We support the working class because the working class supports my entire life! By force!" -Marxists & Communists

[@Amin-al-Husseini_1941picture]

Is it cause Marx didnt pay his workers, just like Hasan?

[@JodyBruchon]

Anyone in the working class that isn't silently enriching rich people is evil in the eyes of rich people.

[@thatundeadlegacy2985]

No i can tell you they're rich they dont care.

[@anthonyhiscox]

​@@thatundeadlegacy2985how does it follow that just because they're rich they must not hold any views on those "beneath" them? We have thousands of examples where this wasn't true.

[@goshawk4340]

Im happy my bosses makes 6 figures plus. They keep the accounts that lets me have a trucking job where I can be home every night.

[@jimbothegymbro7086]

my best way describe it is when all you've known is privilege losing that privilege seems like oppression, apply that logic to the rich exploiting the working class and it explains a lot especially when a lot of them didn't earn said wealth but instead were born into it

[@AspiringDevil]

Pretty much it's why most Republicans hate them too, unless they live in Texas, Iowa, or Georgia.

[@deathbysloth]

It would be a shame if someone found Hasan's address and passed it around to homeless camps in L.A., telling them that he is a very generous Socialist who is happy to support the homeless, then filmed the results...

[@TheUltimegaMan]

It would be a real shame if someone sent Hasan a golden ticket to the ring with the Candyman.

[@hueghh3775]

@@TheUltimegaMan Honestly, I’m just so surprised Hassan is such a conservative. He’s still in that 19th century anti-Irish mindset. He just needs to learn to tap into his sweet tooth, I guess.

[@wolfetteplays8894]

So true. He is not a real socialist smh ...

[@khatdubell]

"Why are you voting for trump, he doesn't even like you" Guy should have replied "Do you actually think biden likes _you_ ?"

[@anthonyn1157]

If you think either are really for you instead of their own interests you’re already in too deep.

[@ms_cartographer]

None of them like you.

[@jacobr5627]

I think what a lot of the right does not understand about the far left is that they actually hate Biden because they view him as a moderate conservative. That being said, Biden comes from a middle class family in Scranton, Pennsylvania & has fought for labor rights throughout his political career. Trump comes a rich New York City landlord family & during his business career, he profited from overseas cheap labor & stiffed out contractors in the United States. Meanwhile, during his political career, he put anti-union lawyers in charge of the NLRB & cut regulations that kept workers & consumers safe & prevented the type of wage theft, he was a part of.

[@nicklasveva]

It's easy to advocate for something when you get brownie points for it, but don't have to experience the results of what you're advocating for.

[@SplashingMANGO]

The fact that Veblen didn't have the foresight to think of people's genuine enjoyment of things and only see things as status symbols, makes me honestly feel sorry for him. Either he was too deep into his own theory that he was blinded to any other ideas to the point that he overlooked it, or he must have been a deeply unhappy man who didn't find enjoyment in much of anything.

[@TheFastfoodcritic]

in the 1800s having a bike was considered fancy, the line on what makes a status symbol moved up quite a bit

[@UtubeH8tr]

Which is fucking retarded. I laughed at these idiots selling 4k bikes at shops.

[@ImplyDoods]

@@KT-pv3kl bullshit dude u can buy plenty of cheap bikes Ebikes cost more because they cost more to make they need motors and batteries and cooling systems so ofcourse they cost more

[@kenshinhimura9387]

​@KT-pv3kl you want to know why? Batteries cost a lot of money to make.

[@jakubtetera7312]

@@KT-pv3klif you just need a bike as a mode of transport, you can get a decent one dirt cheap. And it doesn’t drink fuel. If you are a proper yuppie and want some fancy carbon fibre contraption, a clapped out Honda Civic is probably the price floor.

[@ImplyDoods]

@@jakubtetera7312 yes comparing the cheapest of one product to the most expensive of another is just stupid

[@elusivemayfly7534]

Dev, I just saw a video about black people lining the streets in Georgia to protest in defense of Trump. One of the men said one reason he was there is because the same thing happening to Trump has happened to black men for decades. I wonder if this demonstration is partly an expression of black working and middle class folks unhappy with current conditions

[@_Carlos]

Stonetoss is right, yet again

[@patrickholt8782]

I think his right again jar fills up every month.

[@evan12697]

Rockthrow never misses, lets be real

[@phantom8926]

Who?

[@freedomgoddess]

@@phantom8926 pebblefling

[@masterphillips]

Slatechuck?

[@ericmcmanus5179]

Having a problem with the phrase "diversity is our strength" is not racist. The reason why people have a problem with what Oliver said is because this idea that diversity or "the melting pot" is a strength for America because it brings all different races, cultures, and beliefs to this country is not what makes this country strong. It wouldn't matter if everyone in America was white, or black Indian or Chinese. What matters is that we all believe that the constitution and the bill of rights hold value worth defending and living by. That's the only thing that matters. And when it comes to that, diversity is our downfall. If we allow people into this country that don't believe in these values and have no intention of committing themselves or their children into believing in them, then diversity will destroy this country. And this is exactly what we're seeing. At the end of the day, the modern extreme, ethno centric right would never have focused on race if traditional American values were actually cherished by the people coming to this country. We all know that 100 years ago when this country had a major influx of immigrants, there were major issues with all these different groups understanding and getting along with each other. But at the end of the day, they all at least believed that they were blessed to be living in America and were thankful for the chance to live in a free country. Today, we get people illegally crossing into this country and then complaining that they aren't given enough money or opportunity. We have first and second generation migrants burning our flag and vowing to destroy "American culture". We are being flooded with people that hate our country, yet want all the benefits of it. This is what diversity has now given us.

[@honkhonk8009]

Its funny because Indians/Chinese/Europeans immigrate here specifically because of its differences from other countries, and praise it. Ayn Rand changing her name to sound more American, is no different to Chinese having americanized names when they come here. Its insane how much shit people get for simply tryna assimilate. You get called all sorts of words like "colonized mindset" and basically get called a cuck by most progressives. Which is insane to say the least.

[@Rhino-Prime]

Just your friendly reminder the creator of commusim karl marx was a rich upper class

[@TheRagnarokknight]

Hubris. We are their excuse to play hero. Their intentions are nothing more than self fulfilling.

[@droxer673]

The best part about all of this is that Oliver Anthony released a video today expressing his disdain for the right co-opting the song and acting like they're on his side, as well as the left demonizing him for it. He also thought it was funny that they playied it at the republican debate because those are the people he is complaining about in the song, among others.

[@kenshinhimura9387]

The right is on his side though. Not the politicians but the regular, hard working conservatives.

[@notubist]

So we were right for sussing him out for pushing the diversity is our strength line. Imagine using conservative talking points then attacking us for defending you against the left.

[@addex1236]

Well yah like a smart man he understands both sides are ass holes

[@AJadedLizard]

@@kenshinhimura9387Not so long as they keep voting for Republicans, they aren't. *All* Politicians are Bastards, and we need to get rid of *all* of them.

[@robonator2945]

eh, sort of. It's a bit more indepth than that. It was largely libertarian in nature and there isn't really as much of a left/right dichotimy as much as there is a upper-left/lower-right dichotimy. The left is much more closely associated with authoritarianism than the right is libertarianism, but it's definitely present nonetheless. For instance the candidate Vivek Ramaswamy is largely libertarian, he's voted libertarian in the past, he holds libertarian values, and he's even outright said he isn't targeting the traditional conservative voterbase but they seem to be receptive anyway. Of course, all the same there are non-libertarian righties that don't really give a shit either, notably the career politician types.

[@conserva-chan2735]

In general from Bud Light to Sound Of Freedom to North of Richmond, I find it fascinating that the right is finally coming into its own cultural power

[@TheBoshman95]

Not so much the right, just people tired of being dragged to the left.

[@Muljinn]

You must have missed the early 80’s then. Back then, the right had most of the social/political power. Of course, the abusive shit they did with it led to a backlash that put the left into ascendence, much like is happening now going the other way. And for pretty much the *exact* same reasons.

[@conserva-chan2735]

@@TheBoshman95 that too

[@lainiwakura1776]

Oh, you must've been born in the 2000s, because the Right did have it's cultural power, and then Evangelicals hijacked it, much like how wokies hijacked the Left.

[@thanatosdriver1938]

Was the sound of freedom thing particularly conservative?

[@FrankGio-nd5rr]

Answer to the title question: Because if we return to law of the jungle, they'll be dead first.

[@diegosuarez9117]

Holy moly that redditor reminded me of Mark Twain's Satan from the movie. He's willing to kill a whole class of people just because he doesn't feel it's bad for them to be destroyed.

[@Kommiekiller]

The funny thing about lefties is that if they were around in 1930’s Germany they’d all be following the guy with the funny mustache.

[@nuclearsynapse5319]

Fascism do be a product of leftist thought tho

[@phantom8926]

They still do he just has a weird sense of smell now.

[@nikkiparksy]

They did that is what the National Socialist's of Germany where Progressive leftists. They were only opposed by the Marxist's as there Totalitarian system was better according too them .

[@chico9805]

The only deviation in the Austrian Painter's ideology from theirs is the inverse racial targeting.

[@garuelx8627]

I'm not sure but I think there was a shorter term they used for "national socialist"

[@magickaldood]

As a poverty enjoyer I love nothing more than talking to middle class socialists. I was raised Catholic with requires tithing, of which because I am not in communion, I give to the impoverished or to children's hospitals. I like listening to them explain labor theory of value and tell me how they are going to help lift everyone out of poverty. All of that to be defeated by the simple question, "but then how do I tithe?" 10/10 always gets them seething as if something could possibly be more important than material conditions.

[@phantom8926]

How does that question apply and how does it defeat them?

[@kingofcards9]

Based tithe enjoyer.

[@danielbob2628]

Ooh, that's a good one.

[@NoNamesLeft0102]

Tithe or charity. Both proposals seem to be opposed at worst or unconsidered at best.

[@blackosprey2219]

​@@phantom8926 OP has religious obligation to give to the impoverished. Socialists want to eliminate poverty. If no poverty exists, then tithing is impossible, and OP has failed their religious duty. A socialist would probably point out that OP is implying that they have a religious mandate to ensure poverty continues to exist, but from a practical standpoint, the total elimination of poverty or material inequality in general is such a pipe dream that this is unlikely to ever become a real concern.

[@joshfleming6110]

Because when you're "progressive" work is a dirty word.

[@TDC7594]

The socialist lawyer Clarence Darrow said, in a moment of unfiltered honesty, that it was better to be a friend of the working class than a member.

[@user-tz5uq2bt1s]

“The upper class wears suits” have you seen videos of cities in the early 1900’s? Literally every single person is dressed up. Everyone.

[@LEGEND-vu7qf]

The difference between a poor man’s suit and a rich one are drastic

[@Adminium21]

And yet a suit is a suit.​@@LEGEND-vu7qf

[@Jose-yt3qz]

It does make sense though, they claim to fight for the working class...because they want the working class to work for them.

[@nilpointfive]

I have to say, I do believe that the people you’re referencing with rooms full of funko pops, the answer is yes, they are doing it for social status. In fact, I’d theorize that If webcams didn’t exist, neither would funko pop.

[@Muljinn]

We can but hope…

[@blazingsonic]

One of the reasons I don't watch streamers and lets players, or even esports now, why should I watch other play a game I'm interested in when I can play it myself, I don't need 2 hours of spoilers to know if a game is good, I just need a few minutes of raw gameplay and a boss fight and I'll see if I want that myself, and this does explain why youtubers who yell at the camera and insult their audience in the face even if it's directed at others have all that stuff in their background. You know what, I never EVER cared for unblocking, it's like watching someone go "Look at this thing you that I have and you don't." Really when it comes to youtuber I rather just listen to a still picture, or clips of a game a show or a movie on loop, I don't need to see their face it's annoying. Even blender lessons on this site has people who HAVE to have their faces shown in a corner when they are showing how to work blender, it makes no sense, their faces are not part of blender who take a spot covering up part of the blender screen.

[@slydoorkeeper4783]

​@@blazingsonicI'll admit, sometimes I watch people play games I'm interested in but probably won't get due to time and money reasons. Its easier to watch someone play a game while I do minor chores and before bed than it is for me to boot up the PC. But I'm just a father on a limited budget, if others have the means to play games like that, more power to them. Another reason why I may watch those games though is "homework" if I am getting it, I want to actually know if its good and didn't just have good marketing. As my buddy like to point to, Anthem.

[@systemfailure1129]

I'm not 100% sure but you could definitely be right. Some people collect baseball cards or coins or comic books and can't shut up about them and others just enjoy owning them or see them as an investment. But maybe.

[@martymcfly88mph35]

​@@systemfailure1129I own a first edition charizard.

[@Niles_Ism]

The south shall rise in the charts again.

[@Grassroots_Hegemon]

Im an Appalachian and I just want to say, us folks are really good singers. He deserves all the love he gets for his voice but he is also an exceptional guitar player which I think gets overlooked. His music is just really good. Hope his overnight success gets him where he wants to be

[@Gulgathydra]

Come on, now... Use the proper appellation for Appalacians... _you know you want to..._

[@Grassroots_Hegemon]

@@Gulgathydra We are better singers than we are spellers 😀

[@RazorRamonMachismo]

he is stil fat

[@markzuckergecko621]

@@Gulgathydra that makes me think of this movie, Run, Ronnie, Run! When the British guy is looking for the dumb hillbilly, he asks some other hillbillies and says "perhaps he goes by the appellation, Ronnie?" And the hillbilly replies "that fucker been lyin to you, he ain't from no Appalachians!"🤣🤣🤣

[@Gulgathydra]

@@Grassroots_Hegemon I wasn't going after your spelling (not directly, anyway), I was referring to the classic American term for folks from that locale. _Hillbillies_ 😀 Now, for the sake of fairness, I can be called a RedNeck for my ancestral stomping grounds...

[@ithinkurf]

The irony of this is that oliver anthony is and out and out centrist. Seeing the left and right fight over him is fucking hilarious.

[@AndrewChumKaser]

Unlike a socialist, I honestly really do have a genuine sympathy and goodwill towards the working class of people. The people toiling away, making my life easier than it has any right to be. I wish there was a way I could thank them in a way that didn't make my Californian ass come across as disingenuous, that showed just how much they mean to people like me, even when I don't show it. I love America, I love the people that live here, I love the hard work that they do. If anyone who's doing that is reading this, from the bottom of my heart, thank you.

[@honkhonk8009]

Im a CS major, and honestly I feel my job is too easy for my pay. Iv tried expanding my knowledge in maths, and tryna do the most "real" work I can. Mostly its cus all my friends who are wleders and shit, have tangible work they can bring out and be proud of. Its hard to have the same feeling sometimes. Working class folks do most of the real work in this country, and I have the utmost respect for em.

[@tedlogan4867]

They are work averse. Their entire ideology is that everyone else is responsible for the work and the effort to make their life easier, so they never feel uncomfortable or ever have their puritanical sensibilities offended.

[@crayonchomper1180]

They will not survive the apocalypse

[@unncommonsense]

They barely survive reality. @@crayonchomper1180

[@chico9805]

@@crayonchomper1180 Of course not, but that won't stop them from bringing it on us all.

[@LynetteTheMadScientist]

We’re in for a new Dark Age if they keep this up. Progressive ideas like nihilism, communism, and feminism are only possible when civilizations become extremely prosperous

[@Anatolope]

It seems I’ve been blessed by a members only video

[@ShortFatOtaku]

only until tomorrow

[@imaeintellec209]

@@ShortFatOtaku Lol now us freeloading plebs can watch it

[@Fuzzycat16]

and i still get to watch it 9 hrs later...What a perk!

[@ooee6383]

I'm going to eat the grass from your rich lawn. Mark my words, no blade is safe.

[@potatortheomnipotentspud]

​@@ShortFatOtakuKZbin to MP4:

[@JTruong3rd]

This songs struck a chord with the blue collars and the people reacting negatively happens to be the very same Richmen who're being described. Anyway it's also reminding me of an old animated film song called "Friends of the working mouse"

[@sweet_xylitol7814]

I am waking up knowing that my enemies ontologicaly evil

[@ernststravoblofeld]

Putting on a worker Halloween costume and writing a shitty song doesn't make anyone a friend of workers.

[@dfmrcv862]

"This sounds bad but don't worry, after i explain it, it will sound a lot worse" I have a mouth and i must scream.

[@joelsalyer5544]

Also loved seeing stonetoss in this video his ability to be consistently amusing is impressive. Though I think my favorite comic of his is the workers of the world unite at the unemployment office.

[@ZombieCorp999]

Some on the right might abandon him for the diversity is our strength comment but he probably has a common sense view of diversity of belief and culture, not just the Leftist view of "less white people". Lost in translation of our psychotic political linguistics.

[@chico9805]

There's nothing commonsensical about claiming, with no evidence, that anyone can come to your country and integrate seamlessly. This experiment is destroying the Western World in record time.

[@Trent-m6j]

Diversity intrinsically means less proportionately of whoever is most common. Like, that's the definition. Going from 8/10 people being in the majority to 6/10 being in the majority to 4/10 being a plurality and there not being a majority, is the population diversifying. Like, that's literally just what that means. You don't diversify a portfolio by buying more of the stock that you already have the most of. That'd... That'd be the opposite. You diversify a portfolio by getting rid of some of the stock you have the most of to replace it with some stock that you don't have much or any of. That's just what diversity means. I personally don't support the demographic replacement of white people. I think white people deserve to have our own homelands like everyone else does. I consider the opposing view, that white people should be ground into a minority in their homelands due to the historic guilt of their race, to be genocidaly racist against whites. So, yeah, "replacing white people is our strength" makes me automatically dismiss everything you have to say, because you're either a retard or you hate me.

[@ZombieCorp999]

@@Trent-m6j I'm not reading this. You are retarded, your like definition of like diversity is not even like correct.

[@IsaacCarmichael]

Dude is from Farmville VA. I was living there when he made this song. The whole town is full of people just like him. He isn't a strange outlier. He's in the majority in his town. Farmville is a fascinating place. Awesome people.

[@publikintox892]

Bro that black dude called him a spick lmao

[@SpartanTrigger]

One had people tell me that we need infinite immigration cause reasons while it depresses my wages and they now are outsourcing tech jobs ( my field ) abroad so where will the average American work aside from big corps and they tend to hate small businesses

[@Xplora213]

The leftist hates small business because it shows that owning the means of production is really hard, it is not guaranteed to succeed, and it reveals the ultimate truth about capitalism - much of our success as a society is hard work and LUCK. they are convinced by pure faith that they can engineer a successful society but they can’t explain the small business.

[@hertzwave8001]

become a serf, work forever and always, make nothing

[@Zetact_]

I think a lot of the degeneracy is less about the money but also involves shows of power. While it usually is the wealthy doing it, some "people" can be poor and still creep on kids if they have the right amount of power.

[@phantom8926]

The MAP people, as well as progressives, are all about money, power and control. Nothing more nothing less.

[@rumorcontrol7873]

I mean this country was never supposed to be an international dumping ground for the rest of the world's rejects, the only reason that became a thing was because industrialists wanted cheap labor and americans weren't as willing to work for cheap wages. "Melting pot" was always about undermining american labor

[@everythingthrice]

The guy IS educated, he just doesn't have the CORRECT education

[@AspiringDevil]

This exactly 💯👏

[@GameFuMaster]

11:19 the irony of a guy writing a book complaining about "the leisure class"

[@PinballBob1]

Veblen did not write the book to complain, he defined what the leisure class does, & why. It can be read as a critique of the useless activity they engage in & their decadence.

[@GameFuMaster]

@@PinballBob1 how very economically constructive of him

[@A_Mad_Jester]

In less words because progressive never were for the working class

[@WoodEe-zq6qv]

When David Pakman streamed the Republican debate, they asked a question using 'Rich Men North of Richmond' to provide context. He immediately soyed out, said "this song is toxic" and started reading his chat over it lmao.

[@martymcfly88mph35]

Lol. Pakman is the exact same person with the exact same opinions as Seder and Kulinski. They don't all need to exist

[@jeffreysommer3292]

George Orwell wrote that if a genuine worker showed up to a Socialist soiree, the Socialists would flee, holding their noses.

[@honkhonk8009]

Its all a bourgoisie larp. One good thing about it though, is it exposes the rich from the ones who gained wealth through competence, from the ones who gained wealth through connections. Whatever you think of Elon Musk, he's has a track record of competence. He doesn't alienate as much as bourgoisie progressives tend to do when talking to people. Hes a physics major, and has his fair share of knowing more about actually important subjects over humanities, yet seeing a humanities major act like their the smartest in the room over some meaningless bullshit.

[@spencerbuck1074]

LEISURE POLITICAL BELIEFS. That's EXACTLY what it is. My left wing values eroded pretty quickly once I got out of my parents house and started working. Suddenly I wanted to do things on my own and didn't blame people for having some prejudices.

[@rackneh]

The most progressive virtue signalling girl I ever knew said this about me pirating games: "Well if you can't afford it find a new hobby" eventhough we played games together and she knew I have a library of payed games on steam. Idk what it is but somehow "lmfao u poor don't play games" doesn't seem elitist as all hell to them.

[@RobertMorgan]

To the contrary she should be like me, the radical free speech free information libertarian type, saying fuck yeah steal everything digitally, down with drm, information should be free! Pirate more!. You'd think a prog would support hurting profits.

[@Sorain1]

Because they're self-rightous. If they do it, it's fine _because_ they did it. Meanwhile if someone they dislike did _anything_ it's wrong because of who was doing it.

[@ghoulishgoober3122]

​@@Sorain1their comment was less that she was pirating games, just that she complained about him pirating them despite having bought many others

[@xEXABYTEx]

he's a redbeard not a redneck

[@cinemint]

Redbeard hillbilly man

[@rothaarige3896]

That was genius. Standing ovation. The concept of "luxury morals" hits the nail on the head

[@tHeWasTeDYouTh]

15:34 you freaking nailed it. that right there. I have seen this first hand growing up poor. Because I migrated from Europe to America in the early 2000s the culture being pushed by Hollwood to the masses felt wrong and self destructive to my me but to most Americans it was just normal American culture. I actually saw how this eventually destroyed most of the poor and low middle class people I grew up with.

[@toddwilliams8128]

Velben predicted "influencers" in 1899, without an army of think tanks and hyper-scaled computer algorithms, or even the indication that hyper-scaled computer algorithms would ever exist. Meanwhile, 120 years later, Anheuser-Busch couldn't predict the backlash of pinning one said "influencer" to their brand which happened within a few weeks, even with said advantages. "Progress," indeed.

[@YourKawke]

7:15 "We need to impose our values on them, because our values are better!" Aren't these the same people that constantly whine about colonization?

[@emilyadams3228]

And they constantly scream about slavery, but act like they own everyone in their "protected groups".

[@Troll5onpara6e]

"they're not making many demands, they just keep saying every worker a member of the board. They just keep repeating it and nothing else, so you see why we haven't gotten anywhere." - disco Elysium

[@BuckROCKGROIN]

Forgiving student loans definitely will result in inflation, Dev, because it increases demand, and inflation is a direct result of increased demand and/or decreased supply.

[@xX_Pokeman_Xx]

I wouldn't call that inflation, just because that doesn't line up with how inflation usually propagates. It is a supply and demand issue, but it's a supply of *cash* outstripping its demand that creates inflation.

[@BuckROCKGROIN]

@@xX_Pokeman_Xx It's the literal definition of inflation, the Cash supply only outstrips demand when the general public has access to it, the cash supply doesn't count for Jack otherwise. When people have access to the cash supply (like say welfare (like say stimulus (like say loan forgiveness))) people spend the cash supply on things, which increases demand and therefore prices.

[@xX_Pokeman_Xx]

@@BuckROCKGROIN You defined inflation as increasing demand for other products. This would mean the currency wouldn't actually change any. Inflation is when the currency is devalued, not the other way around. Supply of the currency must outstrip demand of the currency to make inflation. Increasing the demand of the currency through the petrodollar is how we avoided out of control inflation the last 60 years.

[@BuckROCKGROIN]

@@xX_Pokeman_Xx the currency IS devalued through higher prices as a direct consequences of increased DEMAND because cash supply can only outstrip supply when the general public has ACCESS TO IT. It doesn't matter how big the money supply is if the money supply is somewhere the general public can't touch it. We've been over this. Just repeating your nonsense after it's already been disproven doesn't make it valid. And the petrodollar is finite, it lets us export our inflation, but there's still a limit to how much of our inflation other countries can take, and they'll only take our inflation as long as they fear the the US military, and the rest of the world doesn't fear America's military anymore after Afghanistan and Ukraine hence BRICS.

[@Takeshi357]

My issue with student loan forgiveness is that if you don't actually address all the related issues like predatory loan companies and grossly inflated student fees, everyone's just gonna be back at square one again in a few years. And from what I've seen, the actual political figures most able to actually forgive those loans, have zero plans to do so.

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

You're right about liberal capitalism kicking ass. I make 20 bucks an hour working 8 hour days 5 days a week but can afford a $3400 LG G3 OLED TV, building a $4000 desktop and an $1400 Chinese AK47. Those are high end things but 10-15 years ago they would "Besides the rifle that was $300's in the 90's" be 5 figures maybe 6 in the tv's case.

[@sharkinator7819]

Life goals

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

@@sharkinator7819 lol nah just short term, Now I'm getting a car and going to try learning a few different languages and coding. Saving up my money for some serious life goals. Number go up.

[@AngryReptileKeeper]

They are the very bourgeoisie that they complain about.

[@thatguy9088]

Personally I don't think the elected officials of either side truly care about the common people anymore. I don't even think they are in charge, not really. More of an elected figurehead to speak for whomever paid for them to get into office. I find it strange how elected positions might only pay 120k a year, but somehow all these congressmen and senators are multimillionaires after a few terms in office and no one stops to question how or why. If you want to fix things, the first would be to put term limits on all elected positions, not just the President. Then make it clear who donated to what politician, when, and how much. And then show how that politician votes on issues. Make everything absolutely transparent. But that's just me.

[@Xplora213]

Term limits don’t fix things. All those lizards just move into the back office of the GOP and DNC instead once their term is done. Remember they are often mayors or DAs or sheriffs or some other elected position before Congress or the senate or POTUS. They can still be in charge of something for 50 years. You think someone like De Santis would not be desirable at any level of government? The issue is the machine and a solid chunk of rusted on voters who will not change their vote and a managerial class of politicians that don’t actually need to do a good job to get voted in. Representative democracy requires representation and that just doesn’t happen now.

[@vane909090]

This is so interesting about the human psyche. Back in medieval times the less healthy white bread was the food of the elite, while the more healthy rye and brown breads were what the poor ate. This completely flipped when the poor people could afford the prestigious white bread, which made the white bread be a symbol of status no more, so the elite dropped it.

[@RobertMorgan]

Like how today we actually have more people eating themselves to death via obesity and it's constellation of diseases, than people who are starving to death. And the wealthier you are, probably the thinner, and the poorer the larger. That's all insane and in opposition to the 'gravity' of reality.

[@Doomwolf82002]

And now ironically enough brown breads have become luxury good among the elite to where you'll be paying three times as much for a loaf of pumpernickel.

[@emilyadams3228]

​@@RobertMorganTimes are changin', now the poor get fat Elton John, The Bitch Is Back (1976)

[@honkhonk8009]

Look at how many people are philosophers, but dont even think to themselves aside from mindlessly reading it. Hegel was a clown that thought magnetism was the same as gravity, and his views forced philosophy to divorce from the natural sciences. He simply used philosophy as a tool to gain fame/wealth, while having no idea about what he preached. Its pretty obvious as to why Marx dickrided this low IQ tool in the same manner.

[@MMDelta9]

Huh, that "jobs of leisure" immediately makes me think of this Lazy Girl Job trend on TikTok

[@El_Aspiracionista]

Co-opts are not a bad idea unless they are forced, I have seen many co-opts functioning very well but the common theme is that they are voluntary and in many cases they have a CEO to help them manage things.

[@micahthezilla9432]

Being a soldier is leisure work? I must be doing it wrong then.

[@PedroCosta-po5nu]

"The people that have been kicked out 109 damn times. Want me to live next to those that make 52% of all crimes"

[@einfachignorieren6156]

Based, finally someone with brain, see you fren