Why do some people not believe in The Rapture?

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@juliazhu2439
@juliazhu2439 6 жыл бұрын
Since I was 3 years old, I already wished to be taken away from the earth to be with the Lord! It was an innocent intuition from a child that lord will take us home someday before we get old!
@ryemccoy
@ryemccoy 7 жыл бұрын
In the mid 1800s the doctrine of the pre tribulation rapture started. Before it was understood simply from scripture that at the moment of the second coming of Yahushua that the dead in Him will rise first...then the living will be caught up with Him in the clouds in the blink of an eye. Now...there is a doctrine that uses many varied parts of scripture to build a pre tribulation rapture...which has many flaws. For instance...the doctrine uses the parable of the two working in the field...one is left and one is taken. This is why it is bad to take things out of context because that parable read in full context shows the one taken as judgement.
@candyclews4047
@candyclews4047 3 жыл бұрын
Spirit & Truth actually have a video on the 'two working in the field" (Matt 24) and state it is not to do with the rapture but the Second Coming.
@zbaby82
@zbaby82 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't the scriptures about Enoch and Elijah similar to the rapture?
@Audriibooh
@Audriibooh 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus said we will escape his wrath it is not appointed to us
@ralphsanchico2452
@ralphsanchico2452 9 жыл бұрын
Wow! This answers a boat load of questions as to why so many denominations either do not believe or exclude many Pauline teachings, including my church! Can you imagine a bible without Pauls teachings?
@smeatonlighthouse4384
@smeatonlighthouse4384 7 жыл бұрын
Ralph Sanchico - Wise words sir. If you haven't done so already, it is time to get out of that type of church. Paul's teachings under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit are essential to Christian teaching and hope.
@jellojiggle1
@jellojiggle1 3 жыл бұрын
Churchianity keeps people under the Law and doesnt want them to know Grace.
@enigmagroup413
@enigmagroup413 5 жыл бұрын
(TITLE) Easy, because some people actually read the Bible! ---- Most do not!
@AlokSingh-rp1bj
@AlokSingh-rp1bj 4 жыл бұрын
I have a problem with this secret rapture. Why would the dead be raised on this rapture when they are dead and already safe from tribulation which is meant for the living?
@foxiefair123
@foxiefair123 3 жыл бұрын
Because we have to receive our glorified bodies and we also have to appear before the Lord at the Judgement Seat of Christ.
@ndongengone7284
@ndongengone7284 3 жыл бұрын
Because there is a glaring difference between a human soul and a glorified body. A human soul cannot do all that a glorifying body can do, namely interacting with material and showing itself, for example, to the human eye. The soul must always move in a body to interact with physical matter. The glorious body has many advantages which the soul alone does not have. See all the things that the Lord could make body he is resurrected. A glorious body is a body which can move in the visible and the invisible, which can interact with the material and the immaterial. He is also incoruptible and perfectly immortal; he is in the likeness of Christ. He emits a glory around him according to what the Lord will have decided according to the relationship that each one had with the Lord. Because yes the glory that the glorious bodies emit will be different from each other. With this body you can for example eat and enjoy physical food, it will not be for vital needs, but to appreciate the creation of God. It is essentially the physical body that God will boost. Moreover, it will undoubtedly be essential during the Millennium period.
@thomasbressler4575
@thomasbressler4575 6 жыл бұрын
The second Thess chapter 2 is saying that no rapture can happen untill the falling away happens and the man of sin Antichrist be revealed first that can't happen untill the 5 th trumpet rev chapter 9 rev 17 he comes from the pit the pit is open at the fifth trumpet rapture is at the last trumpet first Corinthians chapter 15.its the timing of your rapture most people believe in some kind of rapture...its just not first.
@jwery2072
@jwery2072 9 жыл бұрын
How will the meek inherit the earth if they have been raptured to heaven? Seriously, I don't understand.
@joshuab2437
@joshuab2437 6 жыл бұрын
They will return to earth with Jesus Christ the Lord and establish his just Millennial Kingdom in heavenly bodies and establish the glorious reign of True peace with the Lamb over the ruins of Satan's kingdoms destroyed during the Tribulation. They will reign with him for 1000 years and after completely binding Satan and then release him and battle him culminating in his spiritual defeat and casting into the eternal fire forever along with the wicked.
@bobdillashaw4360
@bobdillashaw4360 6 жыл бұрын
J Wery after the 7 year tribulation Jesus comes back with His bride to defeat the antichrist and false prophet and set up His kingdom on earth for the next thousand years.
@RebelXero
@RebelXero 6 жыл бұрын
J Wery it’s because they neglect to remember Jesus is coming down to the earth. Meeting him in the air ain’t an indication that he’s going back to heaven. He’s already on his way down. I think they think the saints/holy ones he’s bringing is the church when in fact it’s the 144,000 which is not the church but the replacements for the angels which fell with Satan.
@robertmatos4553
@robertmatos4553 6 жыл бұрын
J Wery AFTER 7 year Tribulation, the bride returns WITH Jesus to establish the millennial kingdom. Thats when we inherit the earth and become kings and priests to rule with the Lord with an iron scepter. But first, 7 year wedding banquet :D we are so close. So excited.
@jellojiggle1
@jellojiggle1 3 жыл бұрын
Christians do not inherit the Earth. We are the body of Christ and will forever be with Him in Heavenly places. The New Earth will contain the New Jerusalem.
@garyarchibeck7018
@garyarchibeck7018 10 жыл бұрын
There is a historical referent. The language of 1 Thessalonians 4 is used in 1st century texts. When the emperor would come to a city the people of the city would go out to meet the lord and walk him into the city in a great procession celebrating the arrival of, for instance, "the great savior Augustus." Paul's language is similar. We will rise to meet the Lord (at his appearing) and escort him to his throne. And so we shall always be with the Lord. This seems to make better sense of the text.
@kerodelkigh
@kerodelkigh 5 жыл бұрын
Gary Archibeck interesting the Jewish wedding ceremony fits perfectly and Jesus does speak of this. Making a place for us at his fathers house. Come (like a thief in the night) same. And the parable of the ten virgins.
@kayakbandits9894
@kayakbandits9894 6 жыл бұрын
At 3:20 you say it’s not in the Old Testament. Could Isa26:20 be referencing to the rapture?
@lionsoftruthministries3126
@lionsoftruthministries3126 3 жыл бұрын
Amen indeed!
@carolinesmith1534
@carolinesmith1534 2 жыл бұрын
What happens if they don't believe in it but you feel they know the holy spirit.
@HappyHolyHealthyLife
@HappyHolyHealthyLife 3 жыл бұрын
The question for most is not whether there is a rapture, but the timing of the rapture. Some people also believe that the rapture and second coming are closely tied together because of the language in 2 Thessalonians 2. God Bless!
@de.davids196
@de.davids196 3 жыл бұрын
They will believe on the way up
@X44-d7h
@X44-d7h 3 жыл бұрын
Which comes first the rapture or the coming of Jesus Christ
@jellojiggle1
@jellojiggle1 3 жыл бұрын
Any way you look at it, the Rapture is first. We meet Him in the clouds. The second coming Jesus puts His feet upon the Earth.
@islanddreamer1969
@islanddreamer1969 6 жыл бұрын
I do believe in the rapture but not pre tribulation because in revelation you dont see Jesus in the clouds until chapter 16 and that is the 2nd coming of Christ which begins the end of the end
@juliazhu2439
@juliazhu2439 6 жыл бұрын
the church has to be taken away so the Antichrist can merge himself; there must be a rapture that the church shall be taken away from the earth; it is correct the rapture before Tribulation.
@kerodelkigh
@kerodelkigh 5 жыл бұрын
He explains that one is we will see him only in an instant. The other is the world will see him. Otherwise Paul’s “secret” doesn’t make sense.
@lastknowngood0
@lastknowngood0 4 жыл бұрын
John God Bless you Sir. Your clarification Is hugely appreciated.
@paulgross3067
@paulgross3067 8 жыл бұрын
You are among just a few people who have a right understanding of the Bible I thank you sir very much you have blessed me and thank you again
@lastknowngood0
@lastknowngood0 4 жыл бұрын
Amen to that Folks!
@amyong4677
@amyong4677 7 жыл бұрын
I think in John 14:3 Jesus did say He will come back and take us to be with Him. Isnt that the rapture?
@smeatonlighthouse4384
@smeatonlighthouse4384 7 жыл бұрын
amy Ong - You are correct amy. It is even nicer to think that He is coming 'himself' for us. He will not be 'complete' until we are with Him in glory in the Father's house. We often think it is for our benefit that He comes. No, that is us being selfish. It is for the satisfaction of His own love for us that He takes us to Himself. At the second coming to earth it is the angels who gather the elect of Israel to bring them back, but at the rapture it is the Lord Himself. Isn't that just lovely.
@JamesJohnson-re9zw
@JamesJohnson-re9zw 6 жыл бұрын
Correct
@JesseMgala
@JesseMgala 5 жыл бұрын
@@smeatonlighthouse4384 I always say this to postribers: "I will come back to take you to be with me that you may also be where I am."(John 14:3) IS NOT EQUAL TO "I will send my angels to gather the elect"(Matt.13:41-43,49; Matt.24:30-31; Mark.13:27-28).
@cobusbrits2
@cobusbrits2 4 жыл бұрын
There is also another verse that alludes to this Luke 21:36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.” If this escape was an ordinary one, why would you need to counted worthy to escape, you could have done it yourself? Even more this 'escape' will lead you to be with Jesus or as it spesifically says 'stand before the Son of Man' which has the confirming and underlying meaning of having to be worthy as well to be in his presence because you cannot 'stand' before him if your not worthy. How can we be worthy and escape and be in His presence? Only in one way and that is the rapture.
@carolinesmith1534
@carolinesmith1534 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling the truth I always believe in coming of Jesus. Does that mean Christians don't believe won't go?
@malootooth
@malootooth 8 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to find the chapter and verse of what the explanation is going to be regarding the millions of people and babies vanishing. God bless.
@MsKwenchi
@MsKwenchi 6 жыл бұрын
THere is no such verse because Christ only comes once on that Last Day, we get caught up with HIm as He comes to purge the tares. Thereis no such things as "pretrib-rapture" You cont find such a Scripture.
@tilly7367
@tilly7367 7 жыл бұрын
My grandma said the raptures not real because god didn't say it was, she said "The trumpet" "The twinkling of eyes" "The parable of the vergin" the signs etc are all to do with the second coming, not a rapture, she said god is not the god of confusion, he would have said what the signs were and what was going to happen. I can't do this anymore :( :( :( :(
@TheLordIsAlmostHere
@TheLordIsAlmostHere 7 жыл бұрын
The shepherds girl Grandma was wrong. Look up.
@beckybeardwatts2383
@beckybeardwatts2383 6 жыл бұрын
Tilly your grandmother is absolutely right that Jesus will come at the 7th Trump hope this helps you
@HomeImProveMentHow
@HomeImProveMentHow 6 жыл бұрын
Tilly what do you mean? You can't do what anymore? Hit me up maybe we could talk if you're up for it? Ken brother Ken
@RebelXero
@RebelXero 6 жыл бұрын
Tilly cuz grandma believed her bible to be true. That’s exactly what Jesus was saying at his second coming! Sorry people y’all are gonna deal with the tribulation but don’t be afraid you will be protected just like the Israelites were in goshen during the plagues.
@davidpadilla9468
@davidpadilla9468 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus said watch and pray. Why watch and pray no one knows the hour or the day but of the second coming you will know the exact day at the end of the seven years
@FredVanAllenRealtor
@FredVanAllenRealtor 4 жыл бұрын
Geesh, the rapture is so clear, amazing how cloudy the world has made it.
@gordonmarshall3218
@gordonmarshall3218 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't sound like a quite appearing
@XaviorLight
@XaviorLight 8 жыл бұрын
I am curious to know, there are many Christians out there some who believe and others who do not believe in the rapture. What happens to those who do not believe in the rapture? I have accepted Christ as my Lord and saviour yet I'm getting my head around this teaching. This is an honest question. Thank you
@joemonroe9456
@joemonroe9456 8 жыл бұрын
There are probably very few that have perfect doctrine in all areas. Your salvation is not based on what you think about the rapture.
@jocelynboye567
@jocelynboye567 7 жыл бұрын
Don't worry about it - Jesus Christ is the rock of your salvation. Rapture it will come - when it comes... Don't let it be a burden to you...!
@johnotto4931
@johnotto4931 7 жыл бұрын
heart starter your salvation doesn't depend on rapture or not, you were bought with the blood of Jesus. This I would add though, if someone doesn't believe in healing are they going to get healed ?, probably not unless someone else who does believe is interceding for them, I don't think as many are going in the rapture that think they are, if you have been baptized in the Holy Spirit then yes you will. Please look into that :)
@MayaLove777
@MayaLove777 7 жыл бұрын
Joe Monroe that's why it's important to read the Bible you have to use discernment of the spirit in what people are saying! There are some churches that don't even use the word of God or take it out of context we have to be very careful
@garyarchibeck7018
@garyarchibeck7018 10 жыл бұрын
Hello Gabriel. I met Jesus 28 years ago and was also filled with his Holy Spirit (that was a good day & a hard day). Our baptism in the Spirit does not seem to be relevant to how one reads and interprets the scripture - we still check with one another as no scripture is of private interpretation. I would counter that Paul wanted our minds to be like Christ's: to consider others' needs more important that our own. He felt this so strongly that he encourages the Philippians to enter into suffering like Jesus did. When we enter into suffering, we provide Spirit an opportunity to be strong (resurrection strong) on our behalf. There is power when we enter into the needs of others. Running away to a party while watching people suffer does not sound anything like Paul. I'm afraid rapture theology is more like a strange gnostic fallacy than truth
@kerodelkigh
@kerodelkigh 5 жыл бұрын
It’s the marriage to the lamb. All seven years is Gods wrath. Why would he appoint his faithful church to his wrath? If you think the world hasn’t had tribulations you’re not paying attention. Evil elites have had a stranglehold on this Earth since Jesus left it. They have done horrific things.
@kerodelkigh
@kerodelkigh 5 жыл бұрын
It speaks to the character of God Noah went in the ark, Lot was removed. It’s in his nature and he even says pray you are counted worthy to escape.
@navagatingthroughthebeasts2908
@navagatingthroughthebeasts2908 3 жыл бұрын
Well said
@Brandii141
@Brandii141 9 жыл бұрын
Crystal clear. Thank you so much for this video. :)
@ritag7854
@ritag7854 10 жыл бұрын
Still going on!
@Madelina77
@Madelina77 4 жыл бұрын
Now that making sense is reaction of Paul.
@wmotjazz89
@wmotjazz89 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for telling the truth! I love your videos and have learned so much! God Bless!
@SpiritandTruth
@SpiritandTruth 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shannon!
@LTD-7
@LTD-7 7 жыл бұрын
People that don't see the clear proof of rapture are asleep. its very sad, clearly 1thessalonians 4:15 through 5:11 states the obvious. Great video God bless. 😎
@juliazhu2439
@juliazhu2439 6 жыл бұрын
The rapture could be in two times for two groups; the first group "pre-Tri" is whose who are fully ready, like" the maid who has lamp and oil"; but during the tribulation another group like the maid "who has only lamp but not preparing oil" have also a chance to leave, but the price the second group shall pay is higher: they would be persecuted to die.
@natalieturner664
@natalieturner664 6 жыл бұрын
They are mixing the two Gospels or the 2 dispensations....Moses and The Law and The Gospel of Christ ...and Him crucified ...rather "The Gospel of Grace...also, the fact that Jesus was born under the law...and preached as so...only to the jews...in matthew ...He was speaking to the jews about His second comming...the rapture is not for them...unless, as many have hear the and believe ....He is the Christ, who came in the flesh...and was Crucified for us. Died for us, was buried for us....The rapture is for believers who are born from above and are In Christ....
@kerodelkigh
@kerodelkigh 5 жыл бұрын
Makes sense because grace didn’t exist yet. He was our savior after his crucifixion and resurrection. The age of Grace Didn’t exist until after he died.
@henryj.wilson8001
@henryj.wilson8001 7 жыл бұрын
Only logical reason would be there will be those god chooses to go to heaven Titus 1: 2 says god can not lie the meek will possess the earth Nothing hard to understand
@HomeImProveMentHow
@HomeImProveMentHow 6 жыл бұрын
A year ago was the last comment really I guess I need to see cuz I knew to your Channel I like what I'm hearing forward to hearing from you God bless brother Ken
@1965GAL
@1965GAL 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother! Maranatha!
@GlowingGengar
@GlowingGengar 9 жыл бұрын
What happens to those who die before the Rapture? My belief (and I take what I learn and put it together into my belief) is that those who die before have a glimpse of Heaven and also are still on Earth. What are your thoughts?
@Ncgardner84
@Ncgardner84 8 жыл бұрын
Those Christians who die before the rapture are literally asleep, they are in the grave awaiting that rapture. Those OT people are awaiting one or the other of the resurrections of the just and the unjust.
@jocelynboye567
@jocelynboye567 7 жыл бұрын
How would you think explain when Jesus died went to the pit and has taken the key of death. ?
@smeatonlighthouse4384
@smeatonlighthouse4384 7 жыл бұрын
Damon Nash. - The Bible is clear when the apostle Paul said that it is 'absent from the body and present with the Lord'. The soul leaves the body and goes immediately to be with the Lord, and He is at the right hand of the throne of God. Before Christ died for us and rose again to the Father's throne, when believers died they went to Hades. It was in two separate parts, one of bliss and one of torment. Now it is 'with the Lord' for the believer and still Hades for the unsaved.
@nolalopez1304
@nolalopez1304 6 жыл бұрын
Ncgardner 84 to be absent with the flesh is to be with the lord. Read your bible.
@robgroves2529
@robgroves2529 6 жыл бұрын
How many times will Jesus come back? It clearly say his second coming so does he come a third time as well and if so where do I find that?
@jeanniegray5681
@jeanniegray5681 3 жыл бұрын
💛💜💛
@rtharpe25
@rtharpe25 8 жыл бұрын
I think most ppl believe in a rapture at some point. Just maybe not a pre-trib rapture lol
@waterpail5253
@waterpail5253 6 жыл бұрын
That is what I am not understanding, what is the point and purpose of rapture if you were to receive God’s wrath and then rescued..? Logically speaking here lol
@debesposito9913
@debesposito9913 3 жыл бұрын
I remember you from the Way Corp! You came and taught at Emporia back in 1985 I believe. Nice to see you again!
@markanthony3275
@markanthony3275 3 жыл бұрын
They don't believe it because they are under the influence of the spirit of anti-christ. Jesus came in the flesh ...he took on our flesh so he could also take on our WRATH.That is what SALVATION is, being saved from our sin and God's WRATH. When people say that Christians will still be subjected to the WRATH of God that Jesus already took onto himself, then they are denying that Jesus came in the flesh. Read 1st John 4:1-3.
@Dishman271
@Dishman271 3 жыл бұрын
Unless the great tribulation is already happening, which is the case and has been since the Fall. Hardships, persecution, disasters, famine, war, pain, and suffering. All have been present since the Fall.
@LizzyAlexis
@LizzyAlexis 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good point.
@sirtdmitch
@sirtdmitch 10 жыл бұрын
The catching away means to take alongside with. Christ will come in the clouds just like He left in the clouds in Acts chapter 1. The air Paul states is the air in which we live and breath. Its foolish to believe otherwise.
@danitewatchman6538
@danitewatchman6538 7 жыл бұрын
The problem with 1st Thessalonians 4 is that the Greek does not agree with those proclaiming rapture. That verse occurs at the "Trump of God" the only trumpet matching that description is the one defined in Revelation 11 and 1st Corinthians 15 (the last or 7th trumpet). At that moment in time, as Paul explains, all flesh is destroyed , in a moment in the twinkling of an eye , at the last trumpet. Further, the Greek word Paul used in 1st Thessalonians which was translated air, is word 109 (aer or respire) not 3227 (oranos or sky) therefore what is written in 1st Thessalonians 4 matches exactly that written in 1st Corinthians 15. Further that condition cannot occur until the last trumpet (7th) sounds, at which point the tribulation of Satan as the False Prophet is complete.
@jellojiggle1
@jellojiggle1 3 жыл бұрын
@@danitewatchman6538 Matching words do not necessarily mean it corelates. As was said, even an early dating of Revelation is long after 1 Corinthians was written. The Corinthians would not even know of the Revelation trumpets.
@paulgross3067
@paulgross3067 8 жыл бұрын
Again just sit herb truth coming out of your mouth truth that comes from the spirit again I thank you for your videos there is no deception in them thank you
@Truth537
@Truth537 3 жыл бұрын
The rapture is believed by all true Christians. It is just the timing of it that is debatable. Take care
@Itsmeagain828
@Itsmeagain828 3 жыл бұрын
It real funny you call other Christians untrue because they don't believe in the rapture. Show me where it says if you do not believe in a pretrib rapture you are a liar and not a Christian. You want to know another reason people don't choose to believe it? Its because you pretribbers like to question our faith. I will have nothing to do with you people.
@Truth537
@Truth537 3 жыл бұрын
@@Itsmeagain828 ?? You read it all wrong mate. I believe in a post trib rapture and am simply saying that true believers believe in Christ's return and thatthe timing of the rapture is the thing that is debatable. You have misunderstood my comment brother. Take care 🙏
@billhesford6098
@billhesford6098 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with the rapture or being 'caught up', being real and yet to come. Not so sure about some of the other issues.
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