Why Do We Need Salvation? | Thinking Through Salvation | Episode 8

[@wadebay]

'We have been saved, we are being saved and we will be saved.' Sounds an awful lot like good news to me...

[@rallegra]

Oh! I like that. “When were you saved?” “When Jesus died on the Cross” wow!

[@loisthiessen9134]

Thank you for making the Good News of God's plan of redemption so plain....based upon the WHOLE biblical account from the book of Genesis to John's Revelation. It is truly thrilling..it is TRUE!

[@NTWrightOnline]

Thank you for your kind words! We are encouraged that you appreciate the full view of God's plan from the whole of scripture. Taking the time to see the narrative from beginning to end provides a richer and deeper embrace of God's work throughout history. We're glad you're here! --NTW Online Team

[@robelmeskiye2620]

Oh my God!! this is amazing "to be rescued from the glitches" professor Wright! you are a gift for the the church of Christ

[@theotherme4120]

Thank you thank you thank you Lord for giving us a teacher like Mr Wright

[@roberthefner4285]

I would suggest that the "When" is before the creation of the world. "For He chose us in Him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in His sight." --Ephesians 1:4

[@Truthseeker-2023DA]

You are correct and have received an additional revelation just as Dr. N.T. Wright just spoke of. The moment you are saved is the WHEN we recognize as the personal moment of salvation but the true moment began before creation (already happened but not yet) and consummated at the death of Cross of JESUS (fulfilled). It is beauty the one whose feet brought the light of GOD’s love to us.

[@danielnatzke6733]

Grace is unmerited by definition. A key thing to remember in this matter.

[@Jarvislepper]

Grace is God's kindness; unmerited is once aspect of God's grace.

[@youngman44]

So well done. Cannot appreciate these videos enough. Thank you. The now, not yet. Love the "have been, being, and will be" of salvation. This seems to be all over the NT. This reminds me of Romans 8:14, 16 - we "are children of God;" and 8:23 - "... we wait for our adoption, the redemption of our bodies." We are, but we will be.

[@NTWrightOnline]

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[@jwillisbarrie]

Thanks for adding actual captions for the Deaf

[@NTWrightOnline]

Glad it's been useful. Thanks for studying with us!

[@jlheidbreder]

You make Salvation more clear to me & how it has so much more to it than just the day I was saved. I am continuing to be saved until the day of Christ. 🕊🩵🙏🏻

[@janmckenzie]

Amen. "Now to him who is able to do far more abundantly than all that we ask or think, according to the power at work within us, to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, forever and ever. Amen." - Ephesians 3:20-21

[@jessebourneau6426]

Such a relief to understand that the "Adam, Adam, where are you?" of the Genesis early chapters, is still being asked.

[@NTWrightOnline]

Indeed, it is reassuring that we can all respond to the voice of God when he calls us.

[@barrymoniquette2482]

Soo much to unpack in this one video. I will love to one day learn and able to speak the greek

[@bettyh7586]

Thank you

[@johannblignaut1966]

A life changing series.Thank you.

[@NTWrightOnline]

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[@TurnAroundwithMaryOver55-fq2lm]

I enjoy these videos and learn something each time.

[@theotherme4120]

Ps. Cosmic blast of transforming righteousness confirmed :)

[@tradingpoker1324]

Great clear video. Thanks

[@Yan_Alkovic]

Can you imagine that I had just finished my lesson on aorist participles when he brought up the participles there at the end?

[@user-tq1xb2sy5n]

I really appreciate the answer to the question, how much of this does one need to believe?

[@judytheobald8704]

So good

[@Anastasis1.4]

Jesus is the Messiah, the son of God 🙌

[@petermeyer6632]

Good day, Mr Wright , please explain where does Luke 16 vs 19 -31 fit in? The rich man and Lazarus.

[@MarthaEllen88]

Have listened to all the Salvation videos now. A question which has troubled me all my Christian life I do not feel has been answered clearly. If a person simply does not intellectually believe in God in this life, or is following another religion, how does NTW interpret the bible regarding what happens to them post death? Most Christians in my experience seem to preach that after the resurrection there is then no opportunity for repentance and joining all creation in Christ. Either annihilation or hell (whether we believe in that) await. I would hope that God welcomes everyone who believes and repents, and chooses to join in Gods plan, whether that is before or after the resurrection. I find it hard to believe in a God who says only those who intellectually or luckily have the right belief system pre death are saved.

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[@goddessdejour]

Is it possible to get the spelling of the 3 Greek words mentioned for “saved”? I believe I have found one of them, but having a little trouble finding the first 2 and in the cc (captioning) it just says [Greek] in the place where NT Wright says those words in the Greek. Thank you.

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[@Popcornbuzz]

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[@KingdomUploader]

The Bishop on the train story - he responds to the "are you saved' question with 3 greek words that mean "saved (past tense)', 'saved(process of building upon our faith)' and 'saved(utterly and fully saved)' or our completion in the last day. On the "being saved" part - Dr. Wright is talking terms of our sanctification right? Acts 2:47 And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved. Why would God add to the Church - those who were already growing in their faith? Aren't "those who were being saved" simply the newly repentant converts? They were added so they could then be discipled and equipped . I'm just not sure we can use this verse to support our lovely "saved, saved, saved" theology. There are likely better passages that address a believer's growing up in Christ right? Thanks

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[@KingdomUploader]

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[@robertlavoie398]

Is salvation primarily a matter of being “morally” saved or is the a matter of being healed from a condition of mistaken identity. For example Thomas Merton taught about the “false self” and our being exiled from our “true self”. This is not entirely a moral issue.

[@jamesryan2227]

I don’t think it’s any of those things my friend:) I’m going to go with E. None of the above lol. I agree with your last sentence that Salvation is not entirely a moral issue, it is a little bit of that as well as much, much more :)

[@robertlavoie398]

James, I agree totally. It is tough to describe it in a sound byte. True. Thank you my friend. Regards.

[@joeh8130]

We can only come to a recognition of our intended purpose when our moral condition is dealt with. Put differently, the transformation which gives rise to the Christian’s new identity is more fundamental than that identity.

[@robertlavoie398]

Does this mean I can't know what I am for until I am perfect. And, secondly, "Don't ask because you will never understand?"@@joeh8130

[@robertlavoie398]

Perhaps this means we will always be able do deepen our experience of and response to God's presence in our lives and this will go on for eternity.

[@Anastasis1.4]

What does Peter say to Jesus in Matthew 16.16? Your are... :

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