Why do you get pain, fatigue, numb hands and general discomfort?

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Dave Moss Tuning

Dave Moss Tuning

Күн бұрын

We all purchase a motorcycle we want via looks, type of use or centered on price. Then we ride it......
We fail to take a look at and fix the ergonomic issues that we need to assess, alter if we can and change with investment to fit our anatomy based on spine and arm length, hand size and finger length, down angle from the shoulders and how much room we have in the rider seat for any freedom of movement.
This video guides you purposefully through the "cockpit triangle" measurements and how you can assess yourself and your needs against what your motorcycle provides you with.
Adaption is our best and worst quality as a human. Do not adapt to your motorcycle - get the ergonomics corrected to eliminate pain, fatigue, numb hands and general discomfort!
You can do this!

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@XRedJar
@XRedJar Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back Dave!! Hope you're doing well.
@Achilles22
@Achilles22 Жыл бұрын
Dave has transformed my last 2 bikes with his set up advice. I now understand static sag and motorcycle ergonomics, very important as I’m 6ft 4ins and Japanese bikes are not set up for my size and weight. Thanks Dave.
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
Thank you posting!
@noelgillett346
@noelgillett346 Жыл бұрын
@@catalystreactionsbw I had a chance to consult with you back at a repair shop in Emeryville CA. So glad to see you still in the game, your contribution to the industry as always filling a big need. A most memorable experience, your advice to purchase an old FZ! over a decade ago continues to pay off in spades. I ended up moving to Albuquerque by way of using that machine hooked up with cases and it did the job like a dream. Thanks. Noel G.
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
@@noelgillett346 Thank you very much for posting your thoughts on your experience via our conversation! Glad to know there was and are positive outcomes from it!
@evilzinabyssranger5695
@evilzinabyssranger5695 Жыл бұрын
IM at the OPOSIT SITE. Since im a relatively short guy (for nowadays standard) (IM LIKE 1, 64 m) Those new NINJA 400 AND 650 are a HEAVEN BECAUSE OF THE NEW TRIANGLE. BUT the SUPERMOTOS (and trail) are the MOST CONFORTABLE THING for me because the seat leaves you SO CLOSE to the handlebar and its high so i keep my lower+ upper back + arms very relaxed. AND its EASY to switch positions because the seat is just a straight line. I can even sit in the rear if i want or need. I have a ninja 300 and the distance from tank to bars are far. Also the set to pegs are a little less than i wish. ive PUT some risers in the handlebars, its got better for the arms and for my balls and hips but worse for my back since im not that lean and now i can "curve" my spine.
@kendtchileninjah5905
@kendtchileninjah5905 Жыл бұрын
True indeed, you’ve got 4 inches of height on me so I can only imagine
@EvolvingNaturally
@EvolvingNaturally Жыл бұрын
Wondered about this. What are the calculations for the triangle? Just trial and error? Might get expensive.
@RenanBecker
@RenanBecker Жыл бұрын
I Guess The same math for bicycles...
@Pabloman333
@Pabloman333 Жыл бұрын
The bucket seat not providing an optional position is the biggest draw back to riding a sporty bike.
@backho12
@backho12 Жыл бұрын
Getting older and longer in the tooth doesn't help either. Sorry to break it to you fellas.
@kevindowell6003
@kevindowell6003 5 ай бұрын
Building core strength helped me with wrist, shoulder and between the shoulder blades pain on my K1200GT. Core carrying my torso weight instead of supporting it pressing on the grips. I still occasionally catch myself supporting my torso weight by leaning on the grips instead of using my core. The peg height and slightly behind position initially caused knee and hip pain. I noticed I was carrying my body weight on the pegs. I learned to relax my hips and sit on the seat rather than sitting on the pegs. My pain wasn’t so much the ergonomics of the bike as it was I didn’t have the fitness or awareness how the ergonomics affected me. Increased fitness and awareness where and how I carried the weight significantly reduced fatigue and aches.
@D4ni3lS4nk3
@D4ni3lS4nk3 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a part two of this video, where you get more in depth into motorcycle comfort
@scottmurray2239
@scottmurray2239 Жыл бұрын
Dave, your the best. I always enjoy your insights into what makes a bike work better for the individual rider. Thanks again for the great content.
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
Thank you - I appreciate you taking the time to post and sincerely appreciate your support!
@donaldcook6997
@donaldcook6997 Жыл бұрын
crotch rockets make young guys hurt ...my son learned the hard way...I ride a 2005 harley and I'm 73...no pain,no discomfort.😅
@blandrooker6541
@blandrooker6541 Жыл бұрын
At 62, I bought my current machine with ergonomics first. I bought a GSXS 1000GT + knowing full well that I need a bike with wider and taller bars, a more upright riding position and a minimum of knee bend. The only drawback is my old ass gets sore after 150 miles 😂😂😂
@bkmahaffey
@bkmahaffey Жыл бұрын
Awesome content as always! You have opened my eyes and showed me the way. Suspension and ergo! Many thanks for all that you do! Hope to meet you someday.
@odysseusdrakos2008
@odysseusdrakos2008 Жыл бұрын
i'm always amazed at how few motorcyclists sort the ergonomics of their bikes. it's always the thing i pay first attention to, risers, bars, seat height, before anything else... you wouldn't even drive a hire car without adjusting the seat to suit you, bum to pedal, backrest to steering wheel and gear lever, so why would you ride your own motorbike without sorting your foot to bum to hand relationship?
@ryleperera8446
@ryleperera8446 Жыл бұрын
Great job explaining after 50 years of riding I have learned something new
@chrisrutledge9330
@chrisrutledge9330 Жыл бұрын
This video highlights a common problem with new bikes: the seats are cramped slots, placed behind a high and bulging gas tank. Then you have to lean over and around this tank to get at the handlebars. The bars are constructed for visual style, instead of comfort. Big "adventure" bikes are some of the worst offenders - exactly those bikes you would think would have figured out long haul rider comfort. But motorcycle stylists are currently fixated on the "angry insect" look - hard edges and angles, minimalist seats, tiny rear passenger space and skimpy little steel foot pegs. The wide and sensible handlebars of, say, the 1960's British road bikes need to be rediscovered. I have a BMW R1150 - and it seats quite close to my first bike, a 650 Triumph Saint, which the British police used for years.
@danieljuno810
@danieljuno810 Жыл бұрын
Yeah after 1.5 hours on a 650r 2017 I start getting pain in my wrists and numb hands. Nice explanation!
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@bccapone837
@bccapone837 Жыл бұрын
So that bike is definitely built for the shorter rider then , great to see you back Dave, you've taught us all so much over the years, your a legend 👍🏼👌🏼
@andrewandlm
@andrewandlm Жыл бұрын
No! Do an experiment... hold a flat palm away from you as if pushing someone away. Look at the angle of your fingers, they wont be vertical to the ground. Move your hand so they are vertical, you feel your chest and shoulder get tight. The ideal position to gold ANY bar in any situation is to have the bar acros the palm of your hand so our elbows HAVE to be out. If your elbows are in, the stress is through small arm muscles. To engage the larger back muscles rotate your elbows up. ALL bike training courses advise this, from flat tracking to motorcross to road riding. And by doin this your weight will be split across your bum and back, and will make the bike feel larger and less compact.
@sidneydawe9937
@sidneydawe9937 Жыл бұрын
This is why I ride older bikes from the 60s and 70s. The seats are wider and flat so it is easier to position yourself. Also American style handlebars which are higher give a much more upright relaxing ride. It means little pressure on the wrists. The geometry on most modern bikes is all wrong and not suitable for longer rides. This is why many bikers are returning to more classic style motorcycles.
@MaxPowerFilthcrud
@MaxPowerFilthcrud 11 ай бұрын
Can somebody explain how you get the measurements for the triangle? How do you know what's good and what isn't, if you haven't a perfect fitting bike to go of off? On longer rides I suffer soreness between my shoulder blades and I'm sure one of those variables is off. Thanks for reading.
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 11 ай бұрын
End of left bar grip to opposite end of right bar grip. Sit in the seat as you would normally, then measure belly button to steering stem. What is right? All based on your day job and anatomy and there is no magic set of numbers as we are all so physically different. At 5' 10" I prefer 30-32" for bar width and 20-22" for belly button to steering stem.
@scottbelcourt5280
@scottbelcourt5280 Жыл бұрын
I remember a previous video of yours I saw a few years ago where you asked some track riders this exact same thing. You said "what's the first thing you modified?" And they all said "exhaust". You then had them sit on their bikes and explained the importance of "Ergos" where you adjusted the bar distance, bar angle and clutch & brake handles for maximum comfort with what they had. I had just recently bought a second-hand z900, and the previous owner had only modified the exhaust as well 😂 I'm a tall guy, and I hadn't realized how hunched over I was and how much I had to twist my hands for the bar & handles, or that I could fix it. I immediately went and got a riser and adjusted the sweep & put the handles in line with my arms, and the relief was immense. Never would have thought about it without your video. Thanks so much for 3 years of pain-free commuting ♥️
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Scott. I hope your post will convince all riders to takle a look at ergonomics and at least evaluate what they have. 3 years of pain free commuting as a net result is a clear statement that you can get it right!
@marinusk67
@marinusk67 Жыл бұрын
Ergonimics on older bikes are better than what they make now. Like running backwards into the future
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 3 ай бұрын
meanwhile on older bikes a lot of people DIED for lack of safe brakes, tires and suspension....but comfy to sit on lol
@douglasgrosch228
@douglasgrosch228 Жыл бұрын
if you were 5ft 8 and 150 lbs be better you are 6ft 2 225lbs concours 14 better..
@jamesjastrzebski1536
@jamesjastrzebski1536 5 ай бұрын
So, how would I figure out the ideal dimensions for myself so I could get the correct fitment?
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 5 ай бұрын
Belly button to bar - close your eyes, make two fists and have someone take a picture of where your hands naturally place (do not hunt for the grips immediately!). For peg to seat, your calf muscle cannot touch your hamstring and your ankle must be below the ball and socket joint of your hip. Picture is very useful.
@Angry-Lynx
@Angry-Lynx Жыл бұрын
Too much compression damping 😁
@cobrin6437
@cobrin6437 Жыл бұрын
create a problem and offer a solution. Sorry don't agree, just as well as its your missus bike then eh.
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
Trying to follow your disagreement logic here. I learned something and shared it so others can learn from it too. For those buying a new bike, this could help them with their choices.
@garlandheard2073
@garlandheard2073 Жыл бұрын
TRADE THAT ROCKET IN FOR A PIECE OF CRAP HARLEY, AND CRUISE THE WEEKENDS LIKE THE REST OF THE "OTH" OVER THE HILL FANG!
@apex13leo55
@apex13leo55 Жыл бұрын
First bike was 06 FZ6-S and I loved bike but my back, shoulders and hands were killing me after 1+ hour of riding it. Never really understood what was problem. At first I thought I just have to get "used" to ride a bigger bike. After 1 year I decided to get Tracer 900 GT and from moment I sat on it I felt as comfortable as I could have dreamed of. Did 25 hour ride (about 1600km) on it with small stops and other than my azz hurting from that long ride I had 0 issues. Now when I actually saw this video, it all makes sense. Handlebars are much wider, straighter and taller than FZ6 and lucky enough are exactly as they have to be for no pain at all. Thanks for video!
@MiracleDiving
@MiracleDiving 11 ай бұрын
Idk why I’m watching this video knowing I have a cafe racer style and there I nothing to avoid getting fucked up by it’s riding position 😂
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 11 ай бұрын
There's always something you can do with bar position, lever reach and angles plus seat to peg height etc. Just takes a few minutes to review the ergonomics videos.
@michaelglenn2468
@michaelglenn2468 Жыл бұрын
How do you determine proper width of bars? Edges of palms in the push up position? Or trial and error?
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
If you work with your hands, your fist is completely outside your shoulder as a norm. If you type all day, your second knuckle is in line with your shoulder joint. That being the case, you need a second person to measure that distance from edge of palm to edge of palm - that gives you your initial distance requirement. If you have permanent injuries you may well be asymmetric from side to side and that needs to be accounted for.
@leoninius1560
@leoninius1560 Жыл бұрын
This seems to address most issues with the top of the body, but what about the feet/back? Is it something to play around with lowering footpegs, etc?
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
That video will be out next week!
@cbiser12
@cbiser12 Жыл бұрын
But how do we figure out what measurements we need? Is there some kind of tool or something? Or do we just guess until it feels right?
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
My triangle is 32" wide and 22-23" from belly button to steering stem. That is what works for me. Follow up video coming on Friday.
@mot-trance
@mot-trance Жыл бұрын
Same problem on my z900... im to far away from the handlebars but a handlebar lever (i wrote it right ? ) culdent be installed on that 2019 z900... if you cahnge anything, you slap the tank whele steering... option... new bike... but i dont want... ( im 177cm ) kawasaki designers make it so unmodifikatable for "smaller" riders... a smal testride didnt tell you, but a loger ride did it well...
@MrSadriabi
@MrSadriabi Жыл бұрын
The manufacturer should make the bar adjustable, provide the range of dimensions for the rider triangle the bike supports, also provide what height and weight of rider they set up the bike for. Better yet the dealer should be able to set up the ergonomics according to the buyer's height and weight etc. . it would be also better if the manufacturer also provided alternate bars for riders which do not fall to the initial range supported.
@spartanx169x
@spartanx169x 4 ай бұрын
The problem is cost. everything you mention would add additional costs that most are unwilling to pay for. And its cheaper for the owner to do it themselves.
@MrSadriabi
@MrSadriabi 4 ай бұрын
@@spartanx169x they must be using some standard when they pass the design as acceptable and safe etc. All they have to do is publish it. I don't think that would cost that much. to add few pages of information.. The dealer has to set up the bike anyway. They must be receiving some instructions on how to set it up. They just need to plug in the buyer's dimensions.
@marcos1669
@marcos1669 8 ай бұрын
i thought you were going to give advice about how to correct your posture, not everyone can or want to alter the bike
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw 8 ай бұрын
Riders either adapt of see what they can do so I offer the information on what it does "as is" to my posture and then offer information about how you might make positive changes. Agreed, many choose not to and simply adapt as best they can buit others would prefer more comfort, less fatigue and less distraction when riding.
@Alex-hv3ir
@Alex-hv3ir Жыл бұрын
Being short i see this as a _win_
@JDeezle21
@JDeezle21 Жыл бұрын
Rental bars and call it a day
@_JP18
@_JP18 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy and learn so much from your videos. Thank you!
@cunttrolledopposition.1747
@cunttrolledopposition.1747 Жыл бұрын
Codswallop !! Most people will ache after several hours on any bike , especially an old fart like Dave . All bikes are adjustable to a degree but humans did not evolve to perfectly fit on a motorbike , therefore riding position and comfort will always be a compromise . Dave is a big spoofer ! "Triangle" my arse !!
@TinkeringTom91
@TinkeringTom91 Жыл бұрын
I love my Straight Handlebar Ergonomics on my 2023 z400 comes Stock that way unlike the Ninja
@richardboivin536
@richardboivin536 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your intro Dave. With time, I realized that when it comes to choose a bike, there's a huge difference between what you want and what you really need...
@mercedesw211classic
@mercedesw211classic Жыл бұрын
In my opinion if you want comfort you buy a mega scooter or an on-off motorcycle. Any "sport" model, turing, street etc. won't be ideal for everyday use or long trips. That's why I always had more than 3 motorcycles, one for every occasion...
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
That really helps if you have that income to get 3 motorcycles for designated purposes. Makes choice and purpose very straight forward.
@gus5885
@gus5885 Жыл бұрын
What a load of drivel
@PhilbyFavourites
@PhilbyFavourites Жыл бұрын
Intriguing set of ergonomics. Certainly for me as a 6’3” long legged individual. I sold a 2016 BMW R1200R and bought a 2019 BMW R1250GS, purely because the leg room of the R was too cramped (feet trucked up a touch too high). The measurement was that with my hand hanging down from a seated position I could touch my heels on the R, whilst on the GS my feet were a good 4” lower and my legs weren’t so cramped. Result happiness. Don’t get me wrong the R was a brilliant bike - I was just too tall for it. But here’s an oddity… recently 2,700 miles across the USA two up (me driving) on a 2023 Heritage Softail and it was pure bliss to ride for 300+ miles per day. I was very surprised - but also very aware that was “sit back and enjoy the scenery” riding. Not much in the way of UK country “A” or “B” roads. I really didn’t expect it to be that comfortable. Bearing in mind a 2006 Road King (in 2006) gave me quite a lot of pain in the small of my back after similar daily distances. Great video - if I can just suggest that you stick to one imperial or metric measurement please. I know it covers all bases, but it’s harder to cross relate when you give two bike’s dimensions in two separate units.
@dopeytripod
@dopeytripod Жыл бұрын
gsxr750 is perfect
@paulscountry456
@paulscountry456 Ай бұрын
What I know is if your nards are stuffed up bucking the tank like on sporty bikes it really wears you out in time...lol
@scottthompson7009
@scottthompson7009 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly how I feel on my MV F3800 plus add in hip and lower back pain! After about 1.5hrs I need to stop and stretch it’s extremely frustrating especially when riding with other people. Thanks for the info Dave!
@OnlytheStrongSurvive416
@OnlytheStrongSurvive416 22 күн бұрын
I have had my new 2023 Honda Rebel 1100 DCT for two months and swapped out the seat for a Corbin because the OE seat was uncomfortable. I have no issues with the fit of my bike!! Excellent motorcycle and I have over 5000 km on it!!
@willbalkovec2631
@willbalkovec2631 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation of Fit. I'm 6ft.2 - long inseams and arms. First bike was a 2006 Honda 599 Hornet and the hand position at the end of the bars rang so very true. I would ride with my palms at the edge of the grips with half my hand off, straightened at a different angle. Change in bars helped immensely. Upgraded to a 2009 Triumph Speed Triple - my goodness what a difference the riding triangle makes for comfort. As always, Thank You for the great videos and explanations. They've all been excellent, a huge catalogue of knowledge and value.
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate you sharing how much getting the right triangle helped you! Thanks for your support!
@Richard-dh8ny
@Richard-dh8ny Ай бұрын
Excellent bike ergonomic review Dave. I find that a light grip also helps avoid hand and wrist fatigue. Unrelated question, but how do you like those mirrors fixed to the frame? I've only owned bikes that have mirrors attached to the handlebars.
@thedarkknight1971
@thedarkknight1971 Жыл бұрын
I had a Suzuki RF900RW (I sorely miss it, it was phenominally underrated bike), but I also modified her with a coupla 'Tweeks', first to raise the standard 'Clamp on' handlebars, then I moved onto the Bandit 1200 Yoke & 1 piece par setup, WHAT A DIFFERENCE! Night and day!!! So for the guys & gals that aren't aware, YES, IF your current 'Steed' makes you uncomfortable, look for 'XXXXXX' (being your bikes' make and model) & Handlebar risers/replacement kit", get it fitted correctly by a qualified/experienced bike tech, and you WILL ride with more confidence because of less pain! What's more, you may very well find you have more control over your 'Beastie' too! 👌👍 😎🇬🇧
@brianperry
@brianperry Жыл бұрын
Years ago l owned a Guzzi Lemans 850 and a Ducati 900 bevel drive. these bikes were of course 'cafe racer/road racer' style bikes...before the term Sports bike was commonly used. l would move the Clip-ons, plus the angle of the control levers. But one just had to suffer for the sake of 'The look' ...Now, more than forty years later ....I'm listening Dave..!
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences and having an open mind!!!
@GeorgiaGrowGuy
@GeorgiaGrowGuy Жыл бұрын
Leg grip and lose the gut are two things that helped me.
@temporaryname8905
@temporaryname8905 3 ай бұрын
Yeah aftert a few rides I noticed my Ninja 500 has me sitting too close to the bars, the gas tank is in the way compared to the GSX-8R plus I liked that bikes handlebars better. Also I put on a tiny bit of muscle on my legs and that made the Ninja really uncomfortable and I plan on getting even heavier due to working out to get stronger for my job requirements.
@peterk2455
@peterk2455 Жыл бұрын
This 650 is promoted as being 'Learner Approved'. Having 'relaxed, sporty ergonomics' and a 'comfortable passenger seat'. If you happen to be a 55kg, 165cm tall lightweight and your pillion is 42kg and has the worlds narrowest arse, made of mahogany.
@ktkace
@ktkace Жыл бұрын
MOST japanese bikes in stock form are for japanese average physiques.... if ur more than 5 foot 7... better have a test ride before comitting...
@gerrycout7845
@gerrycout7845 Жыл бұрын
I ride a CBR1000RR since I was 27 years old. I am now 47 and still riding it. Same bike. Just about the only thing that hurts is my butt after about 2 hours. But never any pain the following day of a ride. Is it the most comfortable bike? No. Does it handle nicely. Hell yes. Would I trade it? No. Would I change anything? No. I have recently even installed a 47 litres Givi top box on it where the passenger seat should be. Nothing touches the paint work. Moto camping ⛺️ with the old CBR now. 🤩 The ultimate supersport tourer..!! 🥳
@dougiequick1
@dougiequick1 3 ай бұрын
There are some symptoms tha defy adjustment cures like "vibrational white finger" a REAL thing they arnt totally even sure why it happens but cold weather and vibration for such affected folks invovles vibration and temperature and length of time riding. If affected your fingers turn white and start looking like shriveled grapes and numb and pain ...never had the issue until last year something to do with nerves....just saying there are things that defy simple fixes....well beyond not riding your motorcycle etc
@milanmilutinovic2936
@milanmilutinovic2936 Жыл бұрын
Got expencive Kawasaki Ninja but has no 20 dolars for decent microphone for this videos.
@kenshinhimura3014
@kenshinhimura3014 Жыл бұрын
a mod video for this bike (because it's a popular bike that many people have) will be good to show the difference and parts that would make a difference.
@karlvaranovich6088
@karlvaranovich6088 Жыл бұрын
I basically can't drive any 600cc comfortable because of their tank ergonomics... i surprisingly comfortable with the most 1000cc , but the best are any Yamaha R1 for tall riders. They have enough room, especially for your legs, what 99% of 600cc do not have. 600cc are more for shorter riders
@Renaissance_cycles
@Renaissance_cycles Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back uploading Dave! Are you going to be at Chuckwalla sept 25 with MotoForza again ? Would love to get your help with my suspension.
@destroytheilluminati770
@destroytheilluminati770 Жыл бұрын
I find myself going back to the standard retro bikes that have long seats and flatter bars with minimal pullback, bikes like the zrx 1100/1200, cb1100 and others like it are most comfortable, bikes with a lot of pullback on handlebars kill me, my arm/hands fall asleep/lose circulation 1/2 hour of riding and i'm ready to shove the bike back into the garage
@Jim-nm1en
@Jim-nm1en Жыл бұрын
That bike is more suited for someone of a shorter and narrower build. Try before you buy to see if you fit the bike. I am just under 5 Foot 7 inches in height with a 29 inch inseam. My bike is a Suzuki GSX650F which I cant flat foot on but, once moving, the ergos are good for me. With a lot of different bike and riders, there are always going to be compromises.
@SH-sc9or
@SH-sc9or Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you include the Strada for comparison purposes? Also, why didn't you mention your "dimensions" to be able to correct for it?
@perfectox
@perfectox Жыл бұрын
Whitching this thinking I wish to mount some clipons onto my xsr900 to make itnlook cooler and have better position for trackdays compared to the standard naked wide bars... 😂😂😂
@Alexander-zs5rj
@Alexander-zs5rj Жыл бұрын
perhaps the German Company LSL have something to fix the handle problems
@pasifsc
@pasifsc Жыл бұрын
For the same reasons I had to swap my BMW K1200RS to Triumph Explorer 1200.
@bobkelly2447
@bobkelly2447 Жыл бұрын
When I bought my Kawasaki 250 ninja I was appalled at the comfort level on this bike. the handle bars were so low you had to bend forward just to hold them, riser blocks that added 1" of height to the handle bars helped some but not much... it is by far the most uncomfortable bike I have ever owned.... and they made it that way !
@korgmangeek
@korgmangeek Жыл бұрын
In this bike the handlebars are like that because of "racing"? More aerodynamic, or because of ergonomics? (small people).
@DragoVrljic
@DragoVrljic Жыл бұрын
It is wrong to compare those 2 bikes. You would compare multistrada with kawasaki versys that belong to the same category as enduro bikes. Here on this video guy is mixing apples with pears.
@Mark-ye8ro
@Mark-ye8ro Жыл бұрын
Gripping the tank with your legs and bracing your core will also help with back, shoulder, arm and wrist pains.
@glennmaxfield6618
@glennmaxfield6618 Жыл бұрын
You mention at the start of the vid that the bike belongs to your wife so maybe it's fine for her.
@shegocrazy
@shegocrazy Жыл бұрын
I get pain between my shoulders which is basically down to riding tense on a Tiger 1200. It's hard to relax your shoulders when riding hard in twisties.
@friendryan
@friendryan Жыл бұрын
Coming from a Crotch Rocket, leaning more forward is more numbing by much.
@jimmymac9388
@jimmymac9388 Жыл бұрын
Thats why we have touring motorcycles built for comfort and long distance riding.The only solution if you can't modify the bike is more stops and stretches.
@cranfktubner7677
@cranfktubner7677 Жыл бұрын
Funny because i have exactly the same issue with my handlebar i have to place my hands in the outer area to be comfortable. Otherwise my wrist will start to hurt quickly. I know what i have to do/buy now 😅
@johnsmith-fk7fw
@johnsmith-fk7fw Жыл бұрын
i wonder if anyone who does track racing knows, how much of his problems are due to bad riding position? his ducati seems to have a much more upright posture, and ive heard with these sport type bikes you need to grip the tank more with your thighs and hold the bike that way where no weight is on your hands (which would eliminate his arm problems completely i think). im not an expert i am just trying to learn about different bike stuff before buying mine (ive only ridden mx), this video basically summarizes what i am talking about kzbin.info/www/bejne/onaphIV4qNSMisU . i wonder if anyone with track or long sportbike riding experience has an insight on this?
@MiamiJato
@MiamiJato Жыл бұрын
Thats exactly why my next bike is gonna be a BMW GSA 1250, I'm just too big for most bikes, problem solved.... hope you feel better Dave...
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
Working at it every day - getting there!
@prashantcruise
@prashantcruise Жыл бұрын
Wow I didn’t know it’s for everyone get this issue. I thought it’s my jacket . Tight strip or something like that
@anthonygarofalo559
@anthonygarofalo559 Жыл бұрын
I think the mistake you’re making is riding a crotch rocket designed by little tiny human beings. Get a cruiser if you’re expecting 2.5 hours of ride time brainiac
@lukasgarage956
@lukasgarage956 Жыл бұрын
Could be because I have a Honda CX 500 lowered, cheap cafe racer seat, cut and chopped frame a set of clip ons ........
@ronfeast932
@ronfeast932 Жыл бұрын
Get and adventure tourer no issues.Sports bikes apart from track work not fit for purpose.Spending anything on them like putting lipstick on a pig.
@kendtchileninjah5905
@kendtchileninjah5905 Жыл бұрын
I took a 4 hour trip on a GSXR to N.C. and my thighs and butt cheeks were killing me
@Johnny_ItalV2Racing
@Johnny_ItalV2Racing Жыл бұрын
Get this by watching Ur wrong track suspension advices 😆
@aspinaki
@aspinaki Жыл бұрын
I developed spondylitis riding long times these shits, converted to Fat-boy, problem solved.
@friendryan
@friendryan Жыл бұрын
You prolly need monkey bars because of your height and less leaning forward.
@TomTom-gx1sm
@TomTom-gx1sm Жыл бұрын
You keep repeating the same things in your video and you did not do the things you've been explaining before driving it and now you're complaining ? wtf
@dry509
@dry509 Жыл бұрын
So what are some comfy bikes for a 6 footer with 30 inch inseam and 32 in sleeve length…long waisted, shorter arms and legs.
@JessicaSimonson1976
@JessicaSimonson1976 Жыл бұрын
You're putting to much weight on wrist and arms use your legs to grasp tank and flick bike.
@Tubs-td1yq
@Tubs-td1yq 10 ай бұрын
1st change I made to my 2009 ER6F was to replace the bars
@jacobjp5799
@jacobjp5799 Жыл бұрын
good day Mr.Dave williams how are you here good day Mr. Dave moss🙂 thanks for the video
@bcuzicancuellar5478
@bcuzicancuellar5478 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for info Dave! Glad to see you up and continuing to educate us! Stay safe…
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
Thank you - working on the full recovery from cancer and start in earnest on the 27th. I will succeed!
@NHlocal
@NHlocal Жыл бұрын
Being a bit of a "noob", how do I know what I "need"??? 🤔🤷🏻‍♂
@ArmadilloGodzilla
@ArmadilloGodzilla Жыл бұрын
Interesting but he didn't give any formula for calculating the triangle, so in the end useless.
@aaronferguson9328
@aaronferguson9328 Жыл бұрын
is it correct to keep the ball of my feet on the pegs at all times? Until i did this i was riding "duck footed" and not using the entire seat to my advantage, ever since i have the ball on the pegs im easily using the full seat, on the flipside i see everyone else riding duckfooted. Which is the correct way for street/highways? or the safest?
@jimh2061
@jimh2061 Жыл бұрын
Thes motorcycles are all made for shorter people. The seat to foot peg height is horrible on most of them. I'm 6 feet tall and have a 34 inseam and I'm age 60 and my hips start to hurt after a couple hours.
@peterthomas1079
@peterthomas1079 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't pick a bike that needed mods to suit my body measurements. If you ride a friends machine and its uncomfortable then take regular breaks rather than suffer the next day
@marcfalardeau6058
@marcfalardeau6058 Жыл бұрын
Could we have part 2 explaining how to adjust the ergonomics for the perfect fit. I am 6 feet tall with 34 inch inseam…my 1250 GS seems to be ok but I just want to make sure! Thanks! 😉🏍
@catalystreactionsbw
@catalystreactionsbw Жыл бұрын
That will be next week's video.
@3089280288
@3089280288 Жыл бұрын
Only Damon motorbike have adjustable forks and pegs. Sit as you would on a horse
@torevenheim9607
@torevenheim9607 Жыл бұрын
Why can't the manufacturer get this right? They know a thing or two about motorcycles
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