Why does Gen Z love Eco-Brutalism so much?

[@joshuabushman7]

I think ya boy finally figured out the problem. The thing is, I live paycheck to paycheck so I rent a camera for free at my school. So the reason why I don’t have backups is because once I turn my stuff in they wipe everything. The FIRST time things went wrong I already explained in the video, but the second reason I finally figured out. My card reader has been ran through a little too much I guess and my card will randomly eject if I nudge is a little bit. So it will upload empty spaces for clips it hasn’t actually filled with data. That’s just my theory but it happened on the new video I’m making but I was able to catch it

[@TJThomas116]

bro that sounds really frustrating glad you figured it out

[@theunlawfullpenguin6855]

that sound painful, great video though

[@TheAuraEngineer]

Joker arc speed run, bros got it figured out, except now he has Steve Jobs beef 😢

[@sheepysnowtato824]

I find it so funny that this even matches the moral of the video, persisting through tough times and making humor out of it.

[@millia_honey]

what is the song at 3:40

[@gabrielmachadobsb]

Concrete is terrible for the environment, but hempcrete is one of the most eco friendly materials available today. If one takes ecobrutalism as more than just an aesthetic movement, hempcrete should be the quintessential ecobrutalist material

[@evelyncarr6421]

Hey fam, hempcrete is non-structual and primarily has use as an insulator. It would not be possible to do brutalist architecture just by substituting in hempcrete.

[@ballsss6969]

Don't need to make new ecobrutalist buildings. Convert and reclaim already concrete structures by adding nature to it. Reclamation and conversion, think that's what ecobrutalist is about.

[@wishesandfishes]

​@@evelyncarr6421 came to say this - I don't think you can make something larger than a small single story house with hempcrete

[@markd.9042]

Like brutalist solarpunk

[@thegrandnil764]

Concrete is worse for the environment than single-family wooden homes? You need to keep things in context Mf.

[@stalhein_bracoff]

as an architect, an architecture shitpost-ish video essay was not something i thought existed but now i want more. great fucking work my guy

[@santiagoch2451]

Same here, I need more of this

[@Iliadic]

This is probably similar to what you're looking for: kzbin.info/www/bejne/emfJdYONaLiEd5Y

[@visionforetold4568]

What designs have you worked on?

[@stalhein_bracoff]

@@Iliadic yo i never this reply lmao, im watching it rn. it's more calm that this vid, but it's also fun and not just info dump. I'm enjoying it so far, thanks fam

[@stalhein_bracoff]

​@@visionforetold4568 i've worked on a few different things with my team like houses, cafes, hotels. The biggest thing i worked on was a casino, but it never got past the concept stage cos of issues on the client's side. A big chunk of my time at this firm was spent on developing urban planning projects, one of which the casino was supposed to be a part of

[@KarlSnarks]

It would've been so cool tho, if eco-brutalism was genuinely "let's take the ideas and principles of brutalism, and make it eco-friendly with mycilium-based concrete alternatives, passive cooling/heating, and community gardens" like solarpunk but with a distinct style, instead of "brutalism slap it with trees".

[@mossystone584]

Eco brutality shouldn't be solar punk bust more distinct. I love brutalism because it's supposed to be the most brutal and utilitarian and purposeful as possible. I agree with the mycelium brick thing that would be cool but would just be a brutalist structure but out of eco friendly structure. Which is BASED and would be cool!! *edit I pressed send early But my favorite idea would be too use a material that isn't concrete like a metal structure with lots of holes and informative structures meant for lants to be there with Intention, having lots of glass to accommodate for the plants

[@mothluvsu]

i've actually got a lot of reason to believe that myco-architecture and myco-construction could be seriously beneficial to us. mycelium acts as a really good plaster and even just spent fungal blocks make great bricks. and instead of the materials working against the ground, they work and bond with it to become even more structurally sound

[@noahraab2429]

But doesn’t brutalism look and feel fairly unwelcoming and uncomfortable?

[@superioropinion7116]

eco-brutalism is about nature taking over.Treating it as if it's a legitimate architectural style by making it comfortable and habitable defeats it's whole purpose

[@NedInYaHead]

@@noahraab2429 if you've ever been to the Barbican complex or Southbank in London, you'll know this isn't true. Concrete has the advantage of being extremely flexible in the shapes you can make with it, and that means that although it has the potential to create very imposing, unfriendly structures, there is also great freedom to build natural, human-oriented ones as well.

[@KonekoD]

You've done more in 23 minutes to help me understand the Gen Z mindset and humor than anything else from the past 2-5 years. You kids are alright. A little weird but it's that way for every generation. 😅

[@Sandyttt]

As a gen z such as myself I always found it strange that we're called weird, yet a **certain** generation owned pet rocks 😂

[@sheepysnowtato824]

@@Sandyttt As a Gen Z myself, pet rocks are adorable and you can't change my mind

[@harunatsu6756]

Those obnoxious sound effects are completely unnecessary

[@prehistoricorchid3455]

I always saw it a more of a "life without humans" and its somewhat comforting

[@lincolndunford6693]

@prehistoric orchid how can you find humanity’s extinction comforting?

[@prehistoricorchid3455]

@lincolndunford6693 humanity is, to be frank, disgusting. I've seen so many atrocities we commit, what other creature gets off to the pain and mutilation of others? There is good to be had from the human experience, yes, but we destroy nature and ourselves. An infection has a will to live but it must be destroyed to preserve the host, no? Ideally humanity would shape up and live in cohabitation with nature. But that feels more and more like a frail imagined possibility than something that can be reached. I don't say this to be a doomer, but yeah, those are my thoughts.

[@wintermint77]

@lincolndunford6693 Because then we don’t have to be anxious about the impending complete ecological collapse caused by Capitalism. No humans = no Capitalism. I’m not saying I agree with the extinction of the human race, but I can definitely empathize with the idea of not wanting to live under a Capitalist mode of production and all of the alienation that it entails anymore.

[@treerawrxd]

@@lincolndunford6693cause we suck

[@spookbag24]

@@lincolndunford6693 cause we suck

[@remygallardo7364]

I find this perspective really interesting. As a millenial the reason why I personally have an interest in eco-brutalism is because, to me at least, it represents the collapse of society and the rebirth that we want and crave. It satisfies the deep hatred for the systems that we currently have that need to be broken so that we can make change and progress in a more sustainable method into the future. It is at least more romantic than just idolizing post-apocalypse aesthetics and idolizing the look and feel of games like The Last of Us because instead of total collapse and desolation it looks more like the repurposing of abandoned ideas that once harmed us.

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

Yes. This. Eco-brutalism has always reminded me of the posts apocalyptic landscapes of _The World Without Us, I am Legend, Enslaved: Odyssey to the West, The Last of Us_ and _Horizon: Zero Dawn_ Usually post-apocalyptic stories are bleak and dour, but the serene and beautiful ecosystems from these stories stand in stark juxtaposition to that. Instead we see nature reclaim the world from the brutal manmade alterations. It’s a not a sad eulogy about the death of the world. It shows the old world passing on and allowing itself to reset for a new world to be built from its ruins and untethered from its bias.

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

People for a long time have been fantasizing about what they would do in a zombie apocalypse. It’s weird that when they speak about it they are weirdly optimistic and look forward to the opportunities and freedom it would grant them. They’re usually Gen Y and Z. These generations are deeply unhappy, feel trapped and alienated in a world that’s too interconnected through technology while lacking any genuine face to face, touch to touch, heart to heart human connection. We feel that advancing at our jobs or owning a home are impossible goals without the possibility of death to vacate one. Yesterday Ted Kaczynski died, and the first mainstream news video that I clicked on KZbin was filled entirely with sympathetic comments treating this terrorist serial killer as a hero or martyr and saying he was right. The most critical comments said simply he had the right idea and noble intentions but just went about it wrong. Several years ago _“Thanos was Right”_ was trending as a meme. And not everyone who was memeing was being ironic. The world as we know it dying and giving us the opportunity to restart is very comforting for some because some have never had it good. For many of us saw it as doomed and dying from an early age. It’s sadly the only way some of us believe we can find a way out and a future for ourselves.

[@ff-qf1th]

My only issue with this: a more just society requires just systems, not the absence of systems. I want to keep modern technology (especially medicine) in the transition to socialism, which requires centralisation & administration of standards to some extent. From this perspective, A societal collapse actually sets us back rather than aiding in transforming society for the better. (Remember that historically, after collapse of a civil society the most likely outcome is a strongman stepping in to "fix" things) I'm not an ML/tankie by the way, I believe in both democratic socialism and anarchism, imo both of these strategies working parallel to each other is the best way to advance our goals of building a better world for all.

[@remygallardo7364]

@@ff-qf1th That matches much of the spirit of my initial comment. I personally don't find any solace in the idea of collapse, but repurposing and coopting? Absolutely. Things which are terrible need not be eradicated if they can instead serve a purpose and eco-brutalism in my view showcases an example of a bad thing being adapted and used for good, but itself is not really a goal so much as an artistic metaphor. I do not actually WANT eco-brutalism, but I appreciate seeing it for what it represents to me.

[@CalmPeril]

This the one

[@cloudscovermyflaws]

This is genuinely one of the best video essays I’ve seen in recent years. It’s got a perfect mix of educational material, social commentary, and a strangely hopeful message. I am amazed just from hearing you speak about all this. It’s an instant subscribe for me.

[@wherethequietbeingsgo]

As a current architecture major who also enjoys shitting on some architectural aesthetics (such as brutalism/eco-brutalism) this very much buttered my biscuits.

[@joshuabushman7]

Let’s gooooo

[@mothluvsu]

i tend to like eco brutalism because it represents nature taking back over to me. since i was a kid i've wanted to live out in nature, a primitive lifestyle. but until i can get there, i am stuck here, and it's sometimes fun to imagine when the earth grows back over our blemishes. i've obsessed over places like chernobyl that were evacuated after nuclear warfare that has now started to flourish in the absence of people. i loved the video, thank you.

[@georgerockwell6124]

im fifteen this is deep

[@brydie191]

@@georgerockwell6124 its actually fourteen

[@supme7558]

If you dont wanna take shower i guess

[@mothluvsu]

@@supme7558 that's a pretty rudimentary idea of people living without technology. bathing has been a thing for a very long time. there's water all over the world

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

You don't need brutalism to have more plants. I prefer nature to be more pristine without blemishes like you say. Or those blemishes cause trash or toxins to nature. I prefer to have the architecture I like with nature. There are people living off grid, homesteading, having community farms, or terraforming. You can look up those videos. Such as Mossy Earth, DW Planet A, and NHK Japan Zero Waste. The Aesthetic City has people wanting beautiful architecture.

[@8878_TRIX]

I personally like the end time aesthetic because it reminds me of Ghibli movies like castle in the sky. It gives me some peaceful and mysterious vibes. Like a world far away from the burdens of everyday life. And brutalism looks cool to me because I'm emotionally attached to it because of everything sci-fi like Neon Genesis Evangelion. Things larger than myself are just impressive. And the things you said in your video: maybe but I never thought about it. And also I liked everything post apocalyptic since I startet to gain interest in anime eleven years ago. Eco-Brutalism is just visually pleasing because organic forms contrasted with straight lines have often times just the right amount of complexity. And in the end everything is just about stimulating your brain with different levels of complexity (not necessarily meaning complex but the amount of novel/new things vs the amount of familiar things). So maybe I'm also not liking the aesthetic for the same reasons because I didn't even notice a trend since I don't use TikTok. Greetings from Germany, I hope someone can understand my English lol.

[@kellybraille]

Your English is great! 👍

[@8878_TRIX]

@@kellybraille Thanks😅

[@Leo-gq1yi]

‘i hope someone can understand my english’ says the person writing a beautifully thought-out comment with advanced language in what i’m pretty sure is perfect english

[@nbeutler1134]

@@Leo-gq1yiliterally all europeans commenting on any post lmao

[@nakynie463]

Soso true!

[@juanmanuelpenaloza9264]

Brutalism basically creates a giant canvas that invites someone to graffiti it. It's massive concrete walls beg for a splash of color. It just so happens that with eco-brutalism, that color is green.

[@skitterly]

Yes! I go to an art school that has a couple of this style of buildings and it’s an absolute CRIME that they won’t let us put a mural on it. Like, it needs color! This is psychological torture to us poor artists

[@tau-5794]

Gothic architecture was not made by "extorting the poor", it was made to bring glory to God and elevate the menial, repetitive lives of the poor. The more beautiful the church, the closer to the ideal of heaven the common folk could be, and so more harmonious with the society.

[@ruzgar1372]

Good analysis

[@sahaafa9082]

​@@tau-5794 но догадайтесь у кого они взяли деньги на постройку этого...

[@KabochaOu]

This is really thoughtful, and I think you’re spot on that people liking eco-brutalism is just people liking brutalism, but aged over time. I’ve always really liked brutalist architecture, especially when it’s situated in and around really good landscape architecture, because I think it provides a really minimal backdrop that highlights the form of the plants around it. I also appreciate you actually defining brutalism properly-not that it’s “brutal” but that it’s just based on raw concrete haha. I do want to raise a critique though: I don’t think that the love of eco-brutalism comes from Gen Z absurdism. I totally agree that we’re an absurdist generation, but I think a lot of the micro-aesthetic obsessions that get popular on TikTok are more based on nostalgia. In the Internet era nostalgia gets easier and easier, and for as futuristic as it looks, brutalism is a pretty old and bygone architectural style. A lot of these popular aesthetics are sort of a mood board of items from a very specific time and place, expanded into a bigger world, like steampunk or dieselpunk, solar punk, frutiger aero, dark academia, or eco-brutalism. Eco-brutalism is definitely apocalyptic, but I think it’s important to note that a lot of people who talk about apocalypses look forward to it. It’s a revelation or reset: it’s not absurdist, it’s our desire to wipe the slate and start something new out of the concrete skeleton of the old, maybe. Anyway great video, subscribed.

[@joshuabushman7]

Oh interesting. Yeah that totally makes sense. Ig this is just my take on why we maybe like post-apocalyptic situations. Needless to say, I think we ALL want some escapism haha

[@s_c_u_m3172]

@@joshuabushman7 yeah ngl i grew up in a place that had a ton of brutalist architechture but also a lot of plant life and parks and pleasant places like that and now that aesthetic just feels extremely nostalgic to me

[@OsirusHandle]

Brutalism is precisely NOT an absurdist movement, it is explicitly political and always was; Brutalism was in the east block the movement of "public construction", always linked with the idea of the revolutionary anti-corporatism. In the west, it was the first attempt at making "buildings for the masses" in the same strain, and it feels like it what it is; its real, its there, it makes its presence known. And in an age of nothings, of apoliticism and apathy, brutalism is something.

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

@@OsirusHandle Isn't brutalism a bit apathetic or apathetic inducing? Or that brutalism is what some apathetic people create? I think the OP and Joshua kind of meant the plants and brutalism and it looking apocalyptic to them was absurdist. Tho I don't get why people don't just like or build what's best or what they like instead of apocalyptic, absurdist, and in the process of rising from a collapse. Such as The Aesthetic City and the comments there trying to push for more beautiful architecture. You don't need brutalism to have more plants.

[@OsirusHandle]

@@user-gu9yq5sj7c I would consider functionalism to be apathetic, and cheap buildings may look similar, but brutalism is absolutely not apathetic; the proper buildings are avtually very serious architectural projects and arent similar to functionalism; the grey council blocks you see everywhere are not brutalist architecture. Consider the london theatre which has multiple somewhat irrelevant platforms, spiral staircases everywhere and is formed in a very peculiar shape; done so intentionally.

[@Alleellaa]

As a designer, I feel your pain. Having worked on many, many projects over the years, I’ve had this happen. You’re going along making progress, then for whatever reason, all your work goes **poof.** Doesn’t matter how many hours, sometimes days, went into it. All progress is lost. Does the boss care? Maybe, but it’s still due tomorrow. And it’s now 1am. Good luck! Lol. After hearing about your situation, I had to acknowledge and empathize with your frustration. I’m glad you didn’t give up tho, so far I’m loving the video! Back to watching I go :)

[@joshuabushman7]

Yeah, and if I’m being honest the first time was definitely a user mistake, but these programs should not make it so easy to just delete GB of footage lol. I was so mad I didn’t care if it messed with the acing of the video, had to slip it in the video

[@POTATOEMPN]

i think it is likely because people are confusing eco-brutalism for Solarpunk/Solar Punk type futuristic architecture. They see "oh, trees on balcony = Solar Punk so must be a good future."

[@joshuabushman7]

Yeah a little bit haha

[@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943]

How does one mix that up? Haha

[@jamlog1481]

Insane to see a video essay made by someone who very clearly grew up watching video essays. New wave

[@murhafdarwish3748]

your video was randomly recommended when i first opened youtube to find something to watch while eating. i liked the title so i clicked on it and absolutely loved it! your editing style, your humor, and your presentation abilities are brilliant. i was especially able to understand and relate to what you were saying because as an 18 year old myself, you were able to touch a part in me with your amazing ability to summarize the struggle that i and a lot of other people of our generation grew up in. after watching your video, i realized that your channel is still small. i'm so grateful for the algorithm that brought me such a video from a small channel. i subscribed, and i really hope for you to keep up the amazing work and for your channel to flourish!

[@joshuabushman7]

Hey thanks man means a lot :)

[@ollie2111]

Same, the algorithm has picked their next Chosen One lol

[@Thenormal880]

same here

[@GabbaaGhoul]

yes!! the algorithm has chosen him but i believe he really is a great artist and creator. a good arranger of ideas, sense of humor, and concepts easy to digest. also that stinks about the editing issue!!! whaaaat 🥲 but still pulled a banger of a video despite that

[@benno6981]

Instantly in love with your style and videos, keep it up man !!

[@Noodle-Segootal]

I'm not a fan of brutalism and I've always felt like "eco-brutalism" wasn't supposed to be something you strive for but the message that once society crumbles all that will be left are the buildings we once lived in and the plants.... but I also don't use Tiktok, so I don't know what's going on with zoomers there.

[@denjis_left_nut]

I dont have TikTok so i never knew the term for eco-brutalism. I've seen some more different pictures on Pinterest than the ones in the video that I'm genuinely interested in but i think it's different from eco brutalism because it looks a lot more like post apocalyptic images. It doesn't only include brutalism architecture, it can be a metro and railways being infested by plants or smth

[@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943]

​@@denjis_left_nutIt reminds me of the city in Nier Automata because there is concrete and plants everywhere

[@Zombina638]

@@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943same

[@jpthompson09]

I love brutalism but only when its done right (e.g. Washington Metro stations)

[@vanianbulman]

"Gen-Z humor is unique because it's distasteful by default" *Laughs in literally every generation of teenager*

[@Vickyeverythingelsewastaken]

The algorithm has blessed me! I am not Gen Z but from a country with a lot of sovjet architecture and when I look at these intimidating beton blocks, I think of how cheap they used to be. I think of the renting market not being a constant rat race. And they are also very honest, in a way, in your face. The Fast Casual architecture that is popping up all around town is supposed to stand for nothing because it only hosts pop-up stores and makes me feel unwelcome, not at home because it might be something else next month. But to put the "eco" in ecobrutalism, the sovjet times were also a time of great injustice, so having moss growing over the past is a peaceful sight.

[@joshuabushman7]

Sick. This was exactly what I was trying to explore in this video essay. I always find it interesting to hear from people from other countries because even when people live in brutalist cities, the conversation is still love it or hate it

[@abumy4]

​@@joshuabushman7in a way, you can take most people from any of post soviet sphere countries, and they will have similar views. It's changing, but very slowly,and that is the sad part, especially if you look at W europe countries that already are ahead in terms of human comfort first (look into Netherlands project to replace highways in cities with pedestrian zones and parks)

[@djdancer4513]

I think I have found why I so obsessed with the story idea of the apocalypse now…

[@bloxrrey]

omg i was about to write about how i disagreed about your take and then the plot twist happened, you got me you silly goofy goober! i think people prefer the idea of ecobrutalism when it looks natural is because it portrays itself as if there are no humans and the plants grew there after and took the place back. and when done by corporations it definitely has that ecomodernism feel and feels as if the plants were forced to be put there. you said something like this later on too. good work lad.

[@bloxrrey]

i have always seen ecobrutalism as a dystopia just because i associated it with ecomodernism but i now see how it can be a utopia or at least a beacon of hope. W video

[@joshuabushman7]

Thanks mate. I guess it’s not so much people loving arcitecture but more of the idea behind it.

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

@@bloxrrey You don't need brutalism to have more plants. Why not just like the architecture you like? And you can add plants to any architecture. Such as a wood cabin in the woods. The Aesthetic City and the comments there trying to push for more beautiful architecture. I see architecture I like, beautiful architecture, and futuristic architecture and tech more as hope. I see brutalism as more the opposite and more apathetic inducing. Especially when there's so much of it and the lack of diversity.

[@bloxrrey]

@@user-gu9yq5sj7c I totally agree, I was just saying that I can see how people like it after watching it. It might now be practical or even somewhere you would want to live but it has a sort of calmness? I’m more of a fan of solarpunk though

[@remi.scarlet.]

Start a petition to give this guy more views. The productionquality is out of this world for a 5k channel

[@peloidvoid1619]

I had a soft spot for this style of architecture for the past 8 years when I used to take an architecture class in hs. it influenced a lot of my designs. I liked how the flora stood out against the white/gray concrete. Although i used more wood & glass(I'm also a fan of the portal series. P2 had a similar aesthetic) i wish i could find my projects since i lost them somewhere in my family home. I remember it being everywhere on the design side of tumblr... or im remembering things wrong.

[@darkripple3961]

One thing about ecobrutilism that i havent seen brought up is the sheer amount of complications that follow it. Plants can be incredibly heavy, meaning that it puts a lot of strain on the building, and on top of that, you have to be extra careful about how much water is used cause not only can it also be heavy, but can get into the building and damage its structure

[@Aburuzzz]

Good job pushing through those corrupted video files! The video was defiantly worth it. Nice work.

[@joebuslife9275]

Just throw out the Mac next time. Problem solved 😂

[@PH4NT0MK]

Loved the video, loved Prokofiev's Dance of the Knights at 11:20, great work and keep it up!

[@tvsonicserbia5140]

Honestly as someone who lives in Serbia, an ex socialist country, I love brutalism. It's particularly prominent in the capital Beglrade. I feel like a lot of these photos just don't do it justice. In Belgrade in particular, these buildings are mostly a part of New Belgrade, the modern residential/economic area built after WW2 on a huge and flat piece of land to accommodate the growing city and economy. In a wide open space irl, most of these buildings really look majestic and create interesting sightlines. And while brutalism is often presented in conjunction with grey skies, on a clear sunny day, the concrete takes on a slightly warmer hue, and it's lightness works nicely with the many shades of the clouds against a blue sky, I really never found it depressing.

[@leoneedfan123]

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[@_blank-_]

Y'all are too poor to afford paint? Even North Korea paints its ugly buildings pastel colors to be less depressing. F**k brutalism, this style is a mentaI iIIness.

[@jumpinghunter9152]

Agree with you, as a citizen of post soviet country i never seen brutalism as something depressing, i always seen it as a representation of the time when humanity was at the peak of its technological and industrial expansion, when people stopped trying to cover the overwhelming power of their creations behind elegant forms and finally accepted and appreciated this power. And it is true that concrete constructions look ten times more bright and warm when they are lit by the sun light, sometimes it is even somewhat enchanting to see brutal constructions of late XX century looking so warm and friendly in the bright sun light.

[@user-gu9yq5sj7c]

You don't need brutalism to build giant buildings. There's giant buildings in many different styles. Like ornate, beautiful, cultural European ones or glass skyscrapers too. There's small brutalist buildings too.

[@QuiescentEntropy]

The clips deleting was a cannon event

[@gordshorde]

pre video opinion: we're sick of our current society tearing us and the earth down, so it feels cathartic to watch nature take over again, it feels like the release of anger we have against our situations caused by the shit thats causing pollution and climate change.

[@joshuabushman7]

Yeah kinda haha

[@Theohybrid]

True but it’s kinda a sham just because of how toxic concrete apparently is. But I agree. We need a reset. I’m a millennials and even I agree with the sentiment because it’s a bit suffocating. Gen Z grew up with so much tension of riots, the pandemic, living at home for 2 years, I’m sure they’re wound up because it is and desire release. It’s understandable.

[@hata6290]

@@Theohybridget out of here gramps 💀

[@Laotzu.Goldbug]

Imagine being a member of the latest generation and thinking that the world is "tearing you down" and not actually giving you things on a silver platter that have never been given to any generation in human history.

[@_blank-_]

@@Laotzu.Goldbug Yeah, gotta get what we want through pipe b-words.

[@herakitty4214]

the idea of it all being over, of all stimuli ending, letting your brain rest. I think people find comfort with it.

[@consensuslphisk]

Banger vid. I definitely agree about the appeal being that something will live past humanity, and that our end will not be the end. Something I think about occasionally in that vein as someone with a casual interest in biology and paleontology is that I wish I could see all the insane evolutionary radiations that will come out of the capitolocene mass extinction event. Not to talk as if I'm sure about the destruction of humanity, but over an evolutionary time scale, no way this shits gonna last for a million years. Shout out to plastivore bacteria, we've set em up real nice.

[@joshuabushman7]

That’s super cool. Kinda shows we have empathy farther than just for the things directly effecting us or even our lifetime

[@mossystone584]

@joshuabushman7 yeah, but also the cynicism that we are over. And hope that what lives after doesn't go through what we fid

[@chris_troiano]

First of all, congrats on this video blowing up. I clicked on it because the building I work in is like this. The DM building at FIU was built in the 1970s in a Brutalist style. In 2013, its barren inner courtyard was redesigned as the “Sky Lounge,” taking advantage of the high windowed ceiling. It’s somewhere in between the fully manufactured Ecobrutalism of that apartment building and natural overgrowth. The eco- parts were fully and carefully designed to update the building. They strung vines on the walls and created hanging, sculptural nets with air plants. I suspect this is true for a lot of Ecobrutalism, some effort to update and bring warmth to old Brutaist buildings. Ten years later, the vines in the Sky Lounge didn’t grow up the trellises as planned, but started to wither instead. It’s still a lovely courtyard, but not the overgrowth of greenery I think the designers envisioned.

[@MsTheLounge]

the fact he had to recored this like a million times, made me appreciate this so much more.

[@joshuabushman7]

Thanks

[@demezzerate6769]

@@joshuabushman7 are you backing up your footage anywhere else at all? i feel like that’s a no brainer

[@TheSandurz20]

Definitely agree with your takeaway at the end. I like eco brutalism not because I want it to happen, but because it's comforting to think that even if everything completely goes to shit SOMETHING will still be around. Plants reclaiming space over concrete says that while we can't realistically change our past circumstance we can move forwards no matter what happens. It's an acknowledgement that even in the event that we move past our doomsday event, we will have reminders of what once was everywhere, mingling with a more hopeful what is. We need those reminders, and I think part of why we are where we are politically and ecologically is because we didn't have them in our faces constantly. I'm a younger American millennial, and I wasn't given much more than "nazis bad" in school, but looking at history it's absolutely crystal clear that our own politics inspired a lot of their racial politics. I think physical and ubiquitous reminders of what was narrowly avoided and what wasn't avoided at all are very important. We don't have the attention span to remember them like we need.

[@prikas4313]

I really like your recognition of the two interpretations of eco-brutalism and their connections to greenwashing and absurdism. I think the more hopeful, futuristic view of eco-brutalism falls into the same problems that solarpunk and ecofuturism encounter too. It's fun and reassuring to imagine using technology and harnessing nature to sidestep and smooth over our current unsustainable development; if only we could build special buildings with special concrete that can support all these plants and not rot under their growth. Not that technology won't play a role in an ideal future, but I think there are more concrete (haha) measures that can be taken to introduce greenery, things that sometimes look nice but are less exciting, like good old tree-lined streets that we know help with shade, urban heat island mitigation, and air purification. We don't need to keep waiting for new technology to shift to more sustainable architecture.

[@joshuabushman7]

Yeah there are millions of different things we could be doing, and the technology is there even. But ig for a lot of city planners and businesses, the only incentive is to make it LOOK eco friendly

[@OmanAMNOTGOODWITHCOMPUTER]

Surprised your channel isn't more popular, interesting yet comedic style of commentary. Fantastic music choice and the transitions between goofy humor and symbolical topics was really nice. The ending words especially surprised me. Really entertaining overall, hope to see more stuff like this.

[@m0nclers473]

i started loving ecobrutalism during my first playthrough of portal 2; i just love how these extremely clinical and lonely settings can become SO full of life when its left alone. i learned so much and thanks for working so hard on this video!!

[@raresmocanu1743]

I dunno, my theory for why we like any form of minimalism is that we're overstimulated and need to have our eyes literally rest. Slap onto that the innate desire to touch grass that our bodies give us after our screen-binges and you get eco-brutalism.

[@starorcarina8525]

I grew up with this love for Traditional and “Nostalgic” Buildings that my parents and my grandparents would always miss, they would sigh whenever they see a place that once filled with lush greenery now turned into a random mall and housing estates, my Grandmother used to own this Beautiful Shophouse, which those houses would cost even more of a fortune due to Inflation and it would be considered a Heritage Building today.I always loved Cultural side of the Buildings of my Country, because it just reminds people of simpler times and it made me happy to see them happy, even though I will never fully understand that happiness because I’m Gen Z, I don’t remember seeing Kampungs and Fishing Villages in my area, I don’t remember Farms and Open Air Markets where Hawkers sell their Wares and I don’t fully remember a time where someone could live in a Shophouse so easily especially when you’re near the old ports. This interest only grew further when I saw Eco Brutalism and Biophilic designs and later the added bonus of Traditional Chinese, Japanese, Dravidian and Malay Architecture, I started to like the Idea of Tradition and Nature in a Building, I took up Landscaping because of that and I even drew sketches of my ideas, for myself of course, I understand your views of Brutalism and it’s Eco Counterpart and I Fully agree with it but to me No matter what you do it’s gonna to affect the environment in a good way and in a bad way like for example, Solar Panels in its entirety. As for Aesthetic, I always had eyes for Fantasy in general, Sci Fi wasn’t a thing I was into until I saw Solarpunk and Lunarpunk, the very idea of Solar Panels not having a negative impact and Bioluminescent Energy being a common usage for Electricity is just Fantastical in its own way, and when I found that I wasn’t the only one who likes to draw Cultural-esque buildings via Genshin Impact’s Liyue, Inazuma and Sumeru regions, I couldn’t believe it cause I thought I was the only one and it hit hard on my face Honkai Star Rail’s Xianzhou became a thing, I crave for a Future like that and it’s Future I can at least draw of.

[@Foggeer-von-Dreitveld]

Eco brutalism: the same brutalism you hate, but now with 700% more mosquitos.

[@9000ck]

I'm a gen-xer and have loved eco brutalism for a long time (I didn't know it had a name). It is nostalgic for my childhood; my earliest childhood was the end of the post-war regulated capitalism period and governments were still building libraries and schools in the brutalist style. There is an old brutalist style school building down the road from me which I often fantasise about changing into a community space, library and art gallery and covering it with plants. There is such a potential in that building and the fact that it will probably be sold off to developers to build apartments makes my childhood pre-neo-liberal blood boil.

[@Kanye3D]

nice video, I like the video format and the arcitecture video it self, nice job man

[@Booksfromthecloset]

Sometimes youtube really sends hidden gems your way . So glad i found your channel. I have never been more shocked to see someones sub count before. U deserve millions!

[@emilianogonzalez526]

dude i didn't even realize I just watched a 23 min video without pausing, you just got me super interested in it. keep the awesome work my man

[@tiaisirradiated]

Not to sound pretentious, but I think the coolest thing about that "accidental" style of eco-brutalism you mentioned is the fact that it basically tells the story of humanity in one image-a full cycle of life all at once. It insinuates that what was once a human-made efficient facility is now devoid of the very life that brought it into existence, and regardless of whether we're here or not, there will be some life that occupies it. This earth isn't ours to own, and I think that prospect is beautiful.

[@TrashSpace69]

Thanks for still uploading the full video even after going trough the struggle of losing footage 3 times! That's some real dedication.

[@Yurgen_S]

holy shit so that's how it feels to find a gem in KZbin

[@Mkrabs]

- interesting topic - great video production - keep throught apples bs - funny haha i laughed jokes - got me watching to the end you gained a subscriber. Keep it going

[@andreasgg9613]

Ive never been so shocked to look at the subscriber count from a youtube video

[@abumy4]

honestly coming to the terms with the fact that nothing really is in our control, really does bring inner peace and sobering perception of the world. Also really thankful for gen z humor. Great vid!

[@nuclearether7485]

ive been wanting to do movie analysis video essays, and can i just say i would like to bite your whole fucking style, i love it ❤

[@sar4sar]

"no matter how much we fuck up something will live on" shit got me at peace when i heard this

[@joshuabushman7]

Nice

[@Tipsy_Turby]

I think that Eco-brutalism, for me personally is visually appealing due to how despite the seemingly dystopian vibe of brutalism itself, it seems that eco-brutalism symbolizes something more after apocalypse, and how even after mass destruction and the stripping away of comfort and design, nature always seems to take those things back, and eventually those dystopian and unfriendly spaces somehow become meaningful, and welcoming again, simply by the juxtaposition between man and nature.

[@yeti4814]

I really like how you mentioned at 22:33 that we can always just change our perception of things. It reminds me of a book I had to read for one of my classes (bc I’m also a 19yo in college lmao), Man’s Search for Meaning. The author recounted his experience in Auschwitz and, as a therapist, explained how much one’s determination and outlook has on how long they survive. The key to survival, he explained, was to understand that while you don’t have complete control over your life, and maybe you don’t deserve all the bad things that happen to you, you can always control how you react, and by choosing to react with resilience, by choosing to take a horrible travesty and make it so how you respond gives your life meaning, you survive. It’s a very good book I highly recommend everyone gives it a read.

[@dallineggperson]

Overgrown architecture was huge in the aesthetic and vaporwave corners of Tumblr 10 years ago. Those niches were all about irony and sadness. It felt like there was an understanding all the imagery we were sharing was haunted. And yeah its fucking cool.

[@YAMMAS]

Can we please appreciate his choices of background music??? Bro had Montagues & Capulets but then added in the losing music from Mario kart DS

[@amimiiastro]

The depth you go into is honestly admirable! The way you write is so driven and thought provoking so thank you for sharing this with us! Would love to know your thoughts on more things like art, fashion, etc!

[@puppylightning]

beautiful comment

[@EnordAreven]

Bro, I love it, and it's gonna break my heart if you're right. All I can say at the start for Brutalism and EcoBrutalism is: build it wider and taller, consider the air, the light and that you can make a lotta liminal spaces into communal spaces. I'm glad to hear you specifying that there's more variety to Brutalism than many just think.

[@swagmundfreud666]

This video made me realize something I've been trying to put my finger on so much. I love a very wide variety of music, but there's one variety of music, more a mood than a genre, that I find tickles my itch just right. And I found it. I've been trying to describe it for so long; it's dystopian. Brutalist music.

[@bence5987]

We could see the kitchen building's roof out of our dorm window and I remember there was a short amount of time where a puddle of rain water got stuck in a place on the roof and some kind of plant just grew out there. I have no idea how it even got there in the first place, but I found it interesting how nature can cling onto life in the most unexpected of places. Anyways they got rid of it and nothing grew there ever since then, but the memory of that plant on the kitchen roof sits in the back of my mind and this video brought it out again. Really cool video, thank you for this.

[@NotLudwig]

Ngl, I thought the video was rough for the first half but then *spoiler alert* you refuted some of the assumtionn you were making about eco-brutalism as an architecture style (which, as u said, is almost never intentional and is a product of the modern lense) and the way you wrapped this up was really thoughtful and well done, or at least as well done as you could go given the editing mishaps etc. Looking forward to more stuff from you!

[@joshuabushman7]

Lol thanks mate. Good job sticking till the switch up

[@clutterbot7279]

i'm glad i'm not the only one who had trouble with the beginning, i'm also glad i was able to stick around lol.

[@followingheartlines]

the interesting thing that people often leave out of conversations around trees off-setting carbon emissions is that trees take a really long time to grow to maturity - like im talking decades to a century. yet we expect them to solve the problems that we could solve by limiting our outputs of emissions. also i left a lil like for all the stress you went through making this vid lol

[@ebanydwayne1357]

Oh this video is gonna be so famous! I actually love Eco Brutalism. But turns out we are slowly having a Traditional Architecture Come back, which is fucking good!

[@EnordAreven]

"Everyone suffered, but this is the first generation to have grown up suffering with an internet connection" I know I'm paraphrasing you, but I love that.

[@EckserDR]

Really like eco-brutalism because it makes my imagination run wild with scenarios and storys with post war/end/society Also gives a feeling of solitute that makes me feel like i'm the only one exploring these places that was made by an ancient society that has fallen It gives a melancholic feeling because of this civilization that died and it also gives hope with the plants growing around it, after all is never the end just a new start 10/10 essay you got my like 😎👍

[@joshuabushman7]

Thanks, means a lot mate

[@kemsatofficial]

9:15 You could say the same for those nice green copper roofs. They don’t really look good at first, but if you wait, it ends up looking pretty cool.

[@waterbears9874]

I used to be like a big fan of brutalist architecture, but the more ive thought about it recently the more i feel like it would be depressing to live around

[@namedrop721]

As someone who has had to…it is. Depression.

[@KR-mm4el]

in eastern europe, where this brutalist architecture is prominent, that would be the least depressing aspect of life. poverty, homelessness, job insecurity, overwork and alienation would all be the more pertinent elements of depression than some tall buildings.

[@Loderyod]

Can confirm

[@unplugcompany6752]

I work in a office space that has brutalism, I don’t recommend it. It’s so depressing to work there

[@crazydragy4233]

Monotony is depressing and has little to do with style. Bad architecture kills and not organic cities are merely zombies

[@ashminley]

"the gen z experience is finding joy in crappy situations" -that pretty much sums it up

[@damprat141]

Finally, another internet poisioned architecture nerd , ive been looking for more lmao. I love the aesthetic of echo brutalism, but anyone with a brain knows its bad lol

[@joshuabushman7]

Yessir. Gotta let you know though although I’m a big arcitecture nerd, I usually just talk about art/media in general

[@wippo42]

Can u recommend any other Internet posioneed architecture nerds? As a zoomer idk how else to learn stuff on youtube

[@damprat141]

@@wippo42 sadly I don't know of many others , I've had to resort to 3am hyper Fixation being stronger than the urge for something speedy and braindead. All I know of is regular architecture stuff lol

[@damprat141]

@@joshuabushman7 right after this I watched the rest of your videos lol, can't wait to see how this channel goes, keep up the amazing work lol

[@maddieandtherose]

I can’t even describe how much I love this video it’s just *chefs kiss* perfect in every way - thank you for making it :)

[@ThePortalDevice]

I love brutalism precisely because it makes me so nostalgic for public buildings that were a big part of my everyday life like schools, libraries and universities. Nice and cool in the summer and there's always big atriums or hallways with benches or wide stairs to sit down at and chill. They don't really strike me as dystopian at all and while I don't necessarily need more brut buildings, I'm glad for the ones that are around. Makes me wonder what sustainable urban architecture actually looks like. Because most image results are just concrete highrises with lots of plants slapped on top.

[@theoallan3010]

as an 18 year old bisexual who has a passion for physics and the environment, i like eco brutalism. it feels like collectively we are attempting to take back and remedy the mistakes of our past. it feels like were trying to make a change. like were slowly straying further and further from the dystopian world of Fahrenheit 451, and closer to, something. we wont ever have a true utopia because lets be real, but maybe we can have a world that recycles, a world that repurposes, a world that isnt purely driven by profit. maybe even this is hopeful, but i just wish to see a world that isnt on the brink of collapse by the time i die.

[@yes3801]

I always thought eco-brutalism was about nature reclaiming all the brutalist buildings

[@bartolomeocontarini3987]

BRO I felt your frustration with re-shooting this video but thoroughly enjoyed this, big ups to u!

[@whallord3585]

Holy shit this video is well done! I remember personally doing a presentation on brutalism for art class in high school and even with a week to complete it I felt as if I only scratched the surface!

[@joshuabushman7]

Yeah brutalism is just crazy in how people will either love it or despise it. Art is subjective and all but man, brutalism is just something else

[@whallord3585]

@@joshuabushman7 I suppose it tickles that fear and fascination we have for something colossal and unreachable, a corrupt government dictating our fates behind miles of faceless concrete

[@joshuabushman7]

@@whallord3585 a video essay you should absouletly watch is one by solar sands. I think it’s monumentality or something like that

[@DrDingsGaster]

I love this kind of architecture! I may not be a gen z guy but it's lovely and the whole mindset behind why y'all love it is great too! Tbh I think a good way to sum up the difference between millennials and gen z is the difference between the 10th and 11th docs on Dr. Who. 10 is very grungy and nihilistic in the sense of I'm depressed and nothing matters so lets go through life making people think I'm not depressed af. While 11 is very much the absurdist take on nihilism. Nothing fucking matters but imma go into being a kid and forgetting my pain through whimsy and fun and I'm going throw my middle fingers up at the universe and wear a fez because I can do what I want and laugh in the face of my existence. And while the trees and plants growing in the place of concrete and emptiness isn't _exactly_ the same whimsical energy, it highlights the need to have something nice in a place of turmoil.

[@Derpyinch]

This video was also recommended to me, and I think it's great! Has a nice balance between being serious about the topic and including some humor as well. The style slightly reminds me of Alphaoxtrot's content. One quick question: Could you give the playlist of the music you used in this video? Some of the songs you used really vibe with me. Thanks in advance!

[@tootiredtolive881]

Man... this video was amazing! I'm so glad YT recommended your channel to me.

[@mirageowl]

what is the song at 3:33?

[@sahaafa9082]

"Эмалированное судно". Создано группой " Дома молчат"

[@mellowoke]

ok but why was i more invested in the editing storyline.

[@joshuabushman7]

Thank god someone thinks this

[@FryFish]

I don't comment much, but this video was so well made I think I have to. Good job my guy, happy you pushed through all the technical issues in order to upload this banger of a video.

[@joshuabushman7]

Thanks mate, you Fr helping the algorithm lol

[@ffawn]

i love listening to you talk. long format content is healing my tiktok gen z brain thank you

[@schisomors]

so i grew up in a place completely filled with brutalist architecture. i find brutalism warm and comforting, especially the fully gray buildings (somehow) and it makes me feel safe and more connected to the people around me. so its no surprise i love eco-brutalism as well, its something that soothes me (brutalism) AND it has a lot of nice plants :) yes, thats literally the reason why i love it. though i wish it was actually ECO :/

[@Lmnaop]

I’m 22 and just graduated college. After watching your video I realized I only watch maybe one other KZbinr near my age. Great video, I look forward to more!

[@trolleymouse]

I always find it funny when Gen Z is said to be the "first generation raised on the internet" because like ... the Dot Com Bubble popped 30 years ago. The internet has been a thing for my entire life, and I'm squarely a millennial. I was playing flash games in primary school, or watching my classmates make youtube channels in high school. Gen Z isn't the first generation to be raised on the internet. They're the first to be raised on social media. Big difference.

[@kookiespace]

Tbh I think Gen Z has it harder than Millenials, and especially our parents' generations. But the reason I think this would require an essay longer than I'm willing to put into a youtube comment. Anyway, good video, thank you for giving an old fart (lol I'm 30) a glimpse into a younger generation. And good luck

[@joshuabushman7]

Thanks mate. Idk I wouldn’t say we have it “harder” maybe, but both come with it’s fair share of things that suck. Like both experience the internet and learning to live with it, just at different times

[@eldenspud]

im so happy i found your channel, ur like the part of youtube that gives me hope for the platform

[@piercesarkela2779]

bro fr one of my fav videos I've seen on KZbin

[@valq10]

Dude, peng presentation style. Those low angles are everything. Definitely subscribing

[@LillianGraceFullofficial]

Ok discussing aside, I love the music chosen for this. it perfectly captures everything

[@amirfld6375]

This was such an insightful and thought provoking video essay delivered in such a fun and hilarious way. keep up the good work and keep making videos like this bro.

[@dangkhoa0202]

I love all the The Caretaker and The Caretaker-adjacent sound tracks you used for this video.

[@really_cool_lizard]

Giant, intimidating, imposing structures but with PLANTS????? hell yeah.

[@DrizzyB]

Wdym by that?🤨

[@really_cool_lizard]

@@DrizzyB i honestly don't know what went through your head to translate concrete superstructures to something much more sexual

[@RickFleischman]

I'm over 50 and I completely love this style ... or at least the potential for it.

[@debugDodo]

Thank you so much bro, I've been searching for the "AlfaOxtrot" Music playlist, especially Libet's Delay for ages

[@zero-ng]

Unrelated topic but I loved how you put Donkey Kong 's Aquatic Ambience Soundtrack in the intro. It was one of my favorite levels to play as a kid especially with the music, it's very nostalgic and beautiful .

[@pzzta6266]

the bosco verticale towers in milan have also a huge eco brutalist touch but less dystopia and more elite but welcoming utopia. might be my favourite

[@TheHeavy136]

loved this can't believe this is your third video! your video presence is on point, looking forward to seeing your channel grow. seeing as this video has kind of blown up, i'd love to see more videos on these sorts of topics, namely the solarpunk aesthetic and optimistic outlook on the future that comes with it. i'd love to see a zoomer perspective on the two sorts of followings of solarpunk, namely the 'tik-tok aesthetic', where the future is envisioned with with futuristic potential technologies such as flying school buses, green cities etc. as seen in the dear alice commercial, and the 'anarchist aesthetic', ala andrewism and our changing climates vision, that incorporates existing technologies with indigenous techniques and smaller, collaborative communities, essentially a lower-tech version of the aesthetic