Why Does Lu Xiaojun Have Such BAD Form?

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[@JoE_Songs]

Dude. you don't have to try and explain it into something good. lol. it's simply bad form. even for explosiveness. you're talking absolute nonsense. he uses MOMENTUM. nothing else. go and train a bit yourself, 5 years at least. build muscle. THEN you can comment. lol Jeez.

[@Sssneaksss]

This reminds me of when I was doing chest day in Japan and this black dude told me that he didn’t isolate muscles he tried to train EVERYTHING, lowkey smart 👌🏽 kzbin.info/www/bejne/p3bJpmyDa6yHpbM

[@parvez1314]

And they were saying Arnold was doing wrong in his documentary

[@charkyicenhour587]

When moving heavy.. and do a few... Better to quickly.. move the momentum... Let rhe body adapt... Heavy the few... or.. quickly. Bodyroll momentum...

[@evokaiyo]

He isn't a bodybuilder, he is a powerlifter. A big difference

[@JundRaptor]

He's focusing on explosive strength and fast twitch muscle fibers. Makes perfect sense for the sport

[@geofmout6010]

you explained it better than the actual video

[@dariusgoatland10]

Lol

[@raultorres8071]

​@@geofmout6010 that was only a part of what the video said, they're training movements as to teach their bodies to use every part of their body to create the most power, rather than isolating a muscle like bodybuilders

[@geofmout6010]

@@raultorres8071 don't take my comment literally. Just saying the video could have been more to the point.

[@matthewchow4991]

They focus on the movement they are competing

[@kevindavis5966]

He's not bodybuilding, he's building power. There's a difference.

[@charcoal3855]

powerbuilding

[@thefightlife]

It’s called explosiveness😂

[@kevincoates4605]

That’s what I was about to ask. Is he an athlete or a bodybuilder? I thought in the video it was implied he was a bodybuilder. Also, power training typically looks a little different than this. Same concept though. I won’t draw any conclusions from a 30 second video though

[@eduardomemije632]

That’s why he made the “” finger motion

[@timothydavis4161]

Fought a ton of Chinese during the Olympics, I promise none of them have power that’s for sure

[@adambarrett2888]

“Not trying to isolate their lat, they’re trying to teach their body to use it as part of a greater system” Man the Chinese even got communist lifting😅

[@johnluin6793]

really a genius comment.

[@jesusmaya4657]

Funniest comment here

[@trevorrisley5419]

Underrated comment of the decade! 😂😂😂

[@xpkakabo8591]

Marx lifting

[@clydenolet736]

@@xpkakabo8591solid gold 😂

[@mrbtapir]

I think it's a legit question to ask why he's using so-called bad form, and it has yielded an interesting explanation. For which, sir, I offer my thanks.

[@_rudds]

You’re the best kind of learner.

[@dominicgallagher8930]

exactly, the people dumping on the question had no clue why he was doing it like that

[@xXCamera_ShyXx]

Exactly! Dude isn’t questioning to be rude. He’s questioning to understand and explain Lol

[@tacocatt6808]

agreed, however a better way to ask would be "why is he using that form?" or "I've never seen form like that, why is he doing it that way instead of the usually form you're taught?" as saying "why is he using *bad* form" kinda makes it sound like you just think he's an idiot.

[@TheBussyAnnihilator]

Except his explanation is completely wrong, and his form is objectively bad.

[@noahnkr1023]

isn’t it ridiculous that you can be a multi Olympic gold medalist and redditors will still call your form bad

[@Bliu2th]

"Everyone is a doctor, and everyone is also a financial advisor" It's a cliche saying but it's ridiculous how true it is

[@Chris-wl2tw]

Goes to show that redditors don't know shit about the world. Not surprised tho.

[@benjaminandrews956]

Just because you've won awards doesn't mean you have any idea what you're doing. Obviously not the case here but there's plenty of bodybuilders that have given nonsense unscientific lifting advice. They just have good genetics, good juice, and listen to their coach.

[@kingmach1621]

Stop you just summon the keyboard warriors

[@BatkoBrat]

it is a "bad" form for aesthetics fitness and bodybuilding where there is need for a lot of muscle isolation while lifting. What Olympic weightlifting athletes are training for is explosive strength. Fast, snappy movements with added weight is perfect for them. Although, they still look like fitness models, nonetheless

[@tomodachi1644]

He won 3 Olympic Gold medals and 5 Gold Medals at the World weightlifting championships, I think the man know what he is doing.

[@yudistiraliem135]

Nah bro, he would have win more if he just train air curls

[@TheBussyAnnihilator]

No, these exercises are objectively ridiculous no matter what his background is.

[@mjodreaper8481]

​​@@TheBussyAnnihilator no its not, he's training accordingly. Bruce Lee trained the same way, explosive power and speed instead of just adding on useless layers of steroid injected muscle lol like a lot of people do.

[@L3g0m4nn]

@@TheBussyAnnihilator sure you know more than olympic athletes and their training staff 😂

[@regamara5448]

@@TheBussyAnnihilator sure you know much better than Lu 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@bitesizetrouble3807]

omg i recently learn this in my P.E class and we called it force summation! im so glad to be able to link my knowledge in class with something im interested in 💪♥️

[@Tyndaal604]

This is exactly how swimmers train. I just finished watching a video on The Stoltman Brothers’ channel and their guest was training to swim three days straight. He was lay on his back, engaging his core and throwing a medicine ball in the air with one hand and catching it, it was to train his hand and shoulder to resist the water on the throw movement, and then pull the water behind him once he caught it. It makes sense to me. Muscle memory can be applied to more than one situation.

[@keanabanana6473]

I used to swim competitively, I was actually watching this thinking man this dudes swimming haha! I see comments saying he's jerking a lot but really watching him, he's moving incredibly fluidly!

[@Tyndaal604]

@@keanabanana6473 Aye it’s strange to see people training with incorrect form to accomplish things non-strength or bodybuilding related. There’s a lot of dictatorship around the form you use. If it’s to achieve something outside of lifting and bodybuilding then most wouldn’t understand! It’s like arm wrestlers, you wouldn’t see ‘em squatting. 😂

[@ZachGatesHere]

Generally speaking if a world record holder has "bad technique" it's on purpose and they're doing what they're doing for a reason.

[@ragingbill]

I wish more people understood this. It’s amazing that people can have the arrogance to form critique elite lifters and then cry “bUt thAt’S aPpEaL To AuThOriTy!!!1” when they get challenged

[@Bamawagoner]

It’s specificity. It makes them good at their sport. It’s not optimal for ‘looking’ like a pretty bodybuilder but you can sit on a couch and get jacked with steroids.

[@justalonelypoteto]

nahh not necessarily, for example many enhanced bodybuilders train like absolute garbage, eat like that too and still get massive gains because you can get away with that when your testosterone levels are superphysiological enough also behind the neck pulldowns are an absolutely horrible idea, your shoulder joint is externally rotated which is just begging for injury

[@IssaMeZane]

@Chance Allen lol it’s not bad form… he’s trying explosiveness’s

[@ezechieldzimeyor4541]

@@Bamawagoner you'd have to be on a crazy stack to become jacked from only doing roid and not going to the gym.

[@Santiago88S2]

He trains in bad form because his goal is not "isolated hypertrophy" but rather gaining muscle control and increasing overall strength.

[@oiinahgiiusadurrybrahchuck7209]

Well, it’s not really bad form for the purpose. ‘Good form’ you’re thinking of is only good if you want to isolate the muscle, expand it, and basically just achieve muscle for show. The form in this video is good for actual use of the muscles involved, which is far more practical in a sporting context, because the muscles aren’t just for show, they are for physical tasks.

[@stanisawbuczkowski568]

Is it why he is killing his shoulders dulling lat pulldowns, using whole body in movement in order to increase strength one thing, but doing such movement where you just put shoulders into the worst possible position with heavy lifting it is just asking for a shoulder injury

[@noahsalvio9649]

​@@stanisawbuczkowski568 If you were to just do what he's doing without building up to it, then yeah you'd absolutely destroy your shoulders. I guarantee you that he, and people that practice this form of body building have a drastically lower chance of shoulder injury, precisely because of this method

[@mts7274]

The big mistake here is claiming he is using 'bad form'...

[@user-sm9zs7sc8u]

Good form is actually also better at gaining overall strength than bad form

[@leonardomichua]

For real. Preach it! I had some kids before telling me I was doing an exercise wrong when I wasn’t. They just didn’t know what the purpose of me doing it that way was for Imagine a kid telling an Olympian who has an entire team that they’re doing the exercise wrong Nah brother; you just don’t know the reason. Don’t go sticking your nose where it shouldn’t be

[@leonardomichua]

@@aconcernedcitizen5852 when they do it nicely. But Dudes weren’t helping at all. They would just say I was doing it wrong and then throwing jabs and insults Don’t know when or why anyone would consider that helpful.

[@TheBussyAnnihilator]

@@leonardomichua Xiao is doing this exercise wrong, and based on that, I can almost guarantee you were doing your exercise wrong too.

[@Traps510]

Absolutely horrible form. This is most likely just bs propaganda from communist China, i.e. disinformation. If you want to waste time and train like an a-hole follow this guy's horrible Technique/form/cadence.

[@josiahbrown5582]

@@TheBussyAnnihilatorin what way is Xiao wrong? He’s specifically trying to achieve the most power production he can get with the least amount of hypertrophy. Weight class sports make this a ratio you want to optimize.

[@barbosaluiz]

He is not training for muscle show, he trains for power.

[@kuroru69]

"why is he training a muscle to be useful instead of just being for show" is all im hearing.

[@doctorcardio1559]

based

[@mikehunt-zx8tr]

A body trained for only looks is also useful in other ways just sayin

[@UnstoppableDWade]

Well if he’s competing for bodybuilding which they said in the video then training like this isn’t effective

[@yeetwchybaban]

no my brother he's a powerlifter and has won olympic medals

[@bachvandals3259]

@@UnstoppableDWade He is doing competitive weightlifting... Not bodybuilding. The idea that he doesn't look good is stupid, i personally think most modern "bodybuilders" look grotesques with steroids bizarre fat belly, veiny and swollen muscles. But Lu himself is cannot pass 88kg body mass otherwise he wouldn't be allowed in his olympic weight class, so he dont want more muscle anyway.

[@sideshowlol]

I remember bb’ers criticising Bertil Fox for doing ‘partials’ in practically every exercise. Haha. One of the advantages of moving heavier weights, even if form appears to be a bit sloppy, is the strengthening effect on connective tissues and neural rate coding. Of course, you have to know what you’re doing or you can cause an injury.

[@gabrieljohannson6777]

Great explanation. Weightlifting & Bodybuilding are totally different sports.

[@genericsidecharacter8915]

It’s not bodybuilding guys. It’s strength building. Not everyone has the same goals.

[@swastikgrover3414]

Facts, I wish ppl didn’t assume everyone’s a bodybuilder, I train for sprinting and shit gets annoying with all the stares

[@Bullshlaha]

Exactly. I have no idea why bodybuilding is even taken into this conversation. The guys simply isn't bodybuilding. It's like asking "Why can't bodybuilders run marathons?", or "Why can't bodybuilders do muscle ups?"

[@noahgearhart4098]

Even for the average strength athlete this is a terrible idea. I would say pretty much anyone who doesn’t have the proper coaching and training experience will get injured attempting this. Imo these methods should be reserved for high level athletes.

[@genericsidecharacter8915]

@@noahgearhart4098 these are high level athletes

[@Primitive01]

@@noahgearhart4098 You’re on KZbin comment sections saying something you know nothing about is a terrible idea, that in itself is a terrible idea

[@lambwock8665]

If you ever think a Chinese person is doing something incorrectly, no it's just that they know something beyond our comprehension already 😂😂😂

[@bloobblop8508]

Chinese get their knowledge threw corporate espionage. They steal knowledge

[@_Wai_Wai_]

As a Chinese person I agree 👍💯

[@bloobblop8508]

@@leetjohnson you cant steal human rights or pollution. Even if you could China wouldn't need to steal those. what I was referencing was technologies developed in R&D departments in the US. Specifically 5G technology, Which was being developed by Qualcomm. Then Huawei and other Chinese tech companies undercut other manufacturers and built poor 5g infrastructure in many countries. Which could be a possible reason for 5G's slow adaptation by consumers.

[@bloobblop8508]

@@leetjohnson oh my b

[@ONESKEBEAR]

That explains the driving

[@SumitSingh-oe6bj]

I'll show this video to anyone who questions my form from now on.

[@bulbulitobayagbagan9633]

There is a big difference between you and this Chinese guy. He is a multi-gold medalist olympian, his training for power, and I think his form is not bad. This video is very misleading, remember, a proper form is still very important, especially if you are a beginner. I am not saying you are a beginner, but just saying.

[@leonardomichua]

Is it the same reason as him? If it’s not then it will be bad form😂

[@joseph_pat25]

This description is the type of bodybuilding I'd want to do

[@GT-012]

Guys he is not a showman, he is a Olympic athlete, its an entirely different thing

[@MJAY-N7129]

Very accurate

[@leonardomichua]

General rule is; if they made it to Olympian status and are doing an exercise in an unconventional way then it has a purpose and reason behind it. No reason to insert yourself in it What was the reason he was doing it like that? Because he wants to focus on making his muscles work together instead of it being an isolation movement

[@fluffstuffpootiebean1688]

His form isn't bad...his neuro muscular awareness is so good that he takes advantage of his movement in a way that most people simply cannot.

[@yellowcactustvz4929]

It's just a different style of training...

[@bioemiliano]

you are just talking nonsense now, he's just doing it differently

[@fluffstuffpootiebean1688]

@@bioemiliano That's fine...go ahead and try to recreate what he's doing and become an Olympic champion. I'll wait for the update.

[@JAA949]

​@@fluffstuffpootiebean1688 I think you could recreate his movements without being an olympic champion.

[@ploopyfudgewink9207]

@@JAA949 that’s not the point. Even consistent gym goers have difficulty maintaining good form during reps with a good range of motion. and that’s usually targeting one muscle group at a time. In this man’s workout he’s targeting multiple groups at a time, with long, explosive reps. And he’s doing them with perfect form. That’s the difference. It’s like doing 2-3 exercises simultaneously, executed to perfection. Do you need to be an Olympian? No. Would I recommend it to people who don’t actively watch their form/amateurs? God no, your torso will look more like a sack of potatoes than a dorito.

[@dylanpritchard4981]

Thank you for this! Different sports require different movement patterns!

[@kestonsmith1354]

Correct

[@sabereaseera1384]

People really out here critiquing olympic athletes like they don’t know what they are doing and just happened to get into the olympics

[@erccdang]

It's crazy... it's like they trying to be able to produce good results in a competitive setting, rather than looking pretty 😳

[@evantimm6053]

​@@zedddddful this is largely a myth. Bad posture produces injury. Uncoordinated movements produce injury. But bad "form" in the traditional isolated movement sense does not. Your muscles are designed to work together in exactly the kind of chained actions that are shown in this video. Nothing he is doing here is creating an increased risk of injury. The video is absolutely correct. He is training his muscles to fire in sequence to produce maximum peak power. This strengthens stabilizers and auxiliary muscle groups which actually reduces injury risk. A very talented trainer explained it to me this way. Your body adapts. So long as you control range, and load so as to build up to a more intense level of movement form doesn't matter. Start with a light load and reduced range and move it through a certain path as aggressively and explosively as you can. Just move the weight. Don't worry about form. Your body will develope form on its own. Train to increase load and range. This is how you create true power. Because by doing this you not only make your muscles stronger but you also improve neuromuscular control allowing your muscles to work together more efficiently and teaching them not to fight against each other.

[@dnegel9546]

​@@evantimm6053 do you even lift bro

[@amazin7006]

​​@@evantimm6053 There are certain cues needed to improve bar path and improve power output. This is why its so hard to learn an efficient clean and jerk without a good coach helping. You cant just practice to perfection. Also funny enough, Lu's pullup here is prpbably safer than a traditional body building BTN one.

[@coleadams6569]

Look good play good

[@eldando7659]

@@evantimm6053 POV: “the trainer 🤡”

[@TheVeryAngryShrimp]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who does the lawnmower startup 💀

[@kingrainbow5432]

As long as you're an Olympian you're fine

[@olderthanyoucali8512]

If your not a dedicated olympic lifter your just a bodybuilder with shitty training form.

[@toastmaster914]

You can't say he's doing it wrong I mean look at him

[@kevinmalone584]

Bro ur not in his sport it is wrong 💀

[@TheVeryAngryShrimp]

@@kevinmalone584 It's not wrong. Did you even listen to the explanation? You're engaging MORE muscles in a realistic movement instead of simply isolating the muscle. It's more like a calisthenic movement where it's somewhat grounded into a form that you might perform elsewhere in life. Like a pullup is using your own bodyweight to lift yourself onto a platform.....or in this case, performing what he does to start up your ancient lawnmower.

[@nikkoigawa8057]

Le travail est surréaliste. 😮❤.Bravos. 😊

[@pokeydiaz210]

Imagine questioning the form of an Olympian 😂

[@marcelljackson6940]

Imagine being afraid to question. Even the proven. Now that he questioned, he knows why he does it that way.

[@kolakalle3978]

Whats wrong with questioning things?

[@ihatefurrys8631]

His form is questionable.

[@rixtyhernandez46]

@@kolakalle3978 It is wrong to question, when questioning out of ignorance

[@ahmedrashid2160]

@@rixtyhernandez46 but how can one leave ignorance without question?

[@jimmurdoch2044]

Really interesting. I've done karate in the past and when you said the lat is playing part of something bigger, I instantly related that philosophy

[@elliottave46]

When someone says my form is bad I’ll say this to them 😂

[@LegendaryLlama_]

Your goal is bodybuilding, their goal is powerlifting. Different goals, different process.

[@bkmixups1796]

​@@LegendaryLlama_ you don't know his goal, It's always someone like you who calls out whats wrong till a video like this comes out

[@kolynwaldrop9496]

@BKmixups what are you talking about. That’s one of the best powerlifters of all time, and he is still competing. To say he is not training for powerlifting (while possible) it is highly unlikely and v reasonable to assume this is for powerlifting.

[@user-sm9zs7sc8u]

@@LegendaryLlama_ powerlifters also Must have good form

[@zakkattack1374]

My goal is to be happy and mind your own fk business . No one is asking you

[@drstevenbrule4406]

A guy I know used to do lat pulldowns and facepulls like that. Everyone would stare at him, but theyd really stare at him when he would pause bench 415x5 and do pull ups with a 120lb dumbbell at 205bw. He trained purely for strength

[@goopbrain8919]

I can pull up 115 at 214 bw...but I certainly can't pause bench 3 let alot 4 plates 😅

[@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252]

All that means is he had great genetics for strength. It does not mean that explosive lifting in itself makes any sense.

[@MrLeolesh]

​@@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 how does it not? He is training the connective tissues, not just the muscles. That gives him more control and stability along with strength.

[@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252]

@@MrLeolesh Please explain how controlled, non-ego lifting does not train the 'connective tissues'.

[@user-pv1qk4so6s]

​@@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 Curious about the explanation of explosive training impacting connective tissue as well. I was under the impression you need slow controlled movement to strengthen the connective tissue. Coming from a track background, I understand how training explosively and training strength can relate (targeting specific fiber types and targeting neutral activation).

[@songoku8627]

Tom Platz said to do this too. Not saying to completely throw form out, but when you get tired push those extra out let go of that form nonsense. It helps you push out a bit extra and that extra time under tension is what’s going to make you big.

[@DroaTherapy]

Honestly this makes so much sense. Isolated workouts make for great physics, but structural systematic workouts give you that dad strength 🥶😎

[@kijungpaik8515]

He’s not doing it for looks, he’s doing it for his sport, that’s the big difference

[@user-sm9zs7sc8u]

Again, good form is actually the most beneficial in terms of strength and hypertrophy They mostly correlate anyways. Pretending like jacking the weight up is better for „overall strength“ is simplex wrong

[@ghost_reccon1665]

@@user-sm9zs7sc8u when you’re training for explosiveness and athletic power, a slow controlled form isn’t the best

[@aribaariba8609]

​@@user-sm9zs7sc8u ever heard of fast twitch muscle fibers ? prolly not

[@Ho_Lii_Fuk]

@@ghost_reccon1665 Preventing injuries is done by using good form. Don't have to use shit form to train max strength.

[@amazin7006]

​@@Ho_Lii_Fuk Lu has trained like this for 25yrs with no injuries. Therefore you are wrong.

[@danny.55]

Some people just started go to the gym twice, and they talking like they're Arnold 🤣

[@mrmidnight32]

After getting my carts for a personal trainer. I’ve learned there are a lot of different ways to build. And yes sometimes cheating with extra weight is better. But inducing a much greater risk for injury on another muscle than the one you’re focusing on. There is also a technique called explosive lift. But that’s normally with less weight than more.

[@fin3662]

Just here to say, simply because someone has status, or prestige, doesn't mean you shouldn't question them. Argument from authority shouldn't be taken at face value, if you think something is wrong approach it inquisitively, people don't get some where by knowing nothing, but that doesn't mean everything they do/say is correct. Lu's form makes sense for his sport specifically, but questioning why he does it the way he does is perfectly reasonable. Comments are acting like this question was utterly insane....

[@matthieusaade3616]

Imagine seeing him in a gym and going to tell a weightlifting Olympic guy "hey you're doing it wrong"

[@franksloan4416]

That’s a logical fallacy. It doesn’t matter if your a “weightlifting Olympic guy”, you can still have bad form and be informed of such.

[@Symbiot7]

@@franksloan4416 Oh ffs...

[@aribaariba8609]

​@@franksloan4416 clearly his bad form is on purpose, he'd focusing on his fast twitch muscle fibers which is very important in his line of sport

[@lg6707]

Nothing suss about a Chinese athlete getting Olympic power lifting records what are you talking about?

[@jason2949]

The funny thing about “form” is that it’s literally pointless. All form is, is basically how a movement looks to such random douche bag watching the movement being done Different techniques and training protocols serve different purposes and there’s also the fact that leverages and body mechanics are individual as well. A “perfect form” rep doesn’t exist because it’s not a fucking thing lol. Any person who says “that’s not perfect form” is simply an inexperienced lifter who doesn’t do any kind of training outside their weak ass gym bro hypertrophy split

[@mithicash1444]

His form only appears bad. When you actually pay attention, his whole movement is very controlled and measured. You can also see just how much tension he maintains during his set.

[@samturner6061]

Ive started training like this just yesterday it's amazing that this pops up for me on youtube

[@androsgoliath9948]

You are guaranteed to injure yourself....goodluck

[@jaycuellin3869]

Exactly This is something I’ve noticed in myself and verified this a year or two back Now I incorporate this style regularly

[@meechrecords9691]

That makes a lot of sense, it’s almost adding as much power into their power position

[@Babyzilla6742]

It’s functional af. This is a good reminder that there are different ways to train and not 1 way is the best way

[@proddreamatnight]

Dude is an Olympic champion, why are people even thinking of questioning his performance lol

[@jkb462]

Because the internet

[@JoE_Songs]

because bad form is bad form. lol

[@skeybell]

@@JoE_Songs Form is made up for the most part, strict form like in deadlifts is important but not every movement is that injury prone. There is no such thing as “bad form” when there are many different ways of training.

[@asianhavoc1872]

@@JoE_Songs "lol" Yea ok Buddy

[@JoE_Songs]

@@skeybell yep, you can differentiate a thing to death. lol. didn't say injury. your words, not mine. And hell yes, there is such a thing as "bad form". Jesus. lol my suspicion is that he actually trains well, but because there was a camera, he did the lat-pulls like a juvenile. A lot of momentum. not even controlled explosiveness. huge amount of momentum. that doesn't train sh*t. that was just for show and pride. which would fit his age and the chinese mentality. ;-)

[@brgo_1787]

The things that I love the most about situations like this where everyone is trying to tell everyone they are wrong and it’s only this certain technique. Meanwhile their results speak for their selves

[@MADOUT_VPS]

And most of the people speaking on form have no form, don’t go to the gym, and look like fat pigs

[@brgo_1787]

@@MADOUT_VPS you just said what I was saying lol.

[@ryansmithsalsa]

Bad form is an interesting topic. I personally don’t see many issues in terms of bad form unless it involves the knee going past the toes I have found that this has created issues in my patella. Also doing super heavy benchpress with bad form in regards to locking up my elbows has contributed to issues with my deltoids. However, the explosive movement shown in the video is actually really good for the sport that he is involved in.

[@Railios103]

Knees over toes are healthier knees. Your problem likely seems from the ankle or somewhere above the knees.

[@calebbrown1455]

In short summary, lu xiaojun does a lot of fast movements because he's focusing on fast twitch fibers

[@RIGIDD]

The difference between this and traditional stuff is that hypertrophy bases itself on the near absolute isolation of a single muscle in order to grow it while he is focused on using that muscle in tandem with others to generate power and strength match that with explosiveness and u build a very strong foundation for power lifting and Olympic lifts

[@sabrinae.6361]

Nice explanation. Makes sense for what he's training for

[@ICantThink0fAnything]

He's not training for aesthetics, he's training for function (throwing massive weights overhead to be specific). But, when he's in good form, he might as well enter men's physique competitions with how aesthetic he is. Really best of both worlds, ridiculous functional strength (for Olympic lifts) and body builder aesthetics.

[@soonahero]

What a sad life

[@adreto2978]

Most based possible life someone could live tbh

[@braziliannigga]

After you've been doing fitness for a while, you realize there's no such thing as "bad form" there's just "bad for what you want". " A kick is just a kick" kind of thing.

[@olderthanyoucali8512]

And how long have you been training?

[@amazin7006]

The only smart comment here

[@Bored__AF]

And there are bad forms that can injure you.

[@braziliannigga]

@@Bored__AF there are forms that can injure SOME people. A lot of that shit theoretical. Your body/ some people's bodies can adapt even to injurious forms. It's nuts.

[@braziliannigga]

@@olderthanyoucali8512 18 years.

[@Long-cock-johnson-lll]

Its all about learning how to fire muscles in a disciplined and controlled manner by exploring them through excessive workouts to sort of gain better control of their muscles, so they can learn a sequence of energy that emits much greater force than if you are hulking with muscles

[@edontes2154]

Wow! 💯 Love this! ❤️

[@ImGigaChad252]

Moral of the story...They fucking know what they're doing

[@gc6329]

Glowfag

[@connorminney4691]

The kipping pull-up has finally found a worthy adversary

[@ryanshreevedrums]

Kipping pull ups could be great if people paused between reps 🤔

[@lolyiz971]

If this is for explosive power at moment like boom i think for pull up its different because for pulls ups you can go above the bar so if you really do explosive enough it becomes a floating muscle up

[@activvmenace579]

I would love to see even 1 person tell him he’s doing any of it wrong xD lmao

[@menfaaanda]

he can handle it. an untrained person will do it 1-3 times and then go to the doctor.

[@GhostHndrxx]

Great explanation

[@ADDAmerican]

Doing this without injury is crazy

[@InTrancedState]

Guess thats why and how he is a pro

[@spunkiethejunkie]

Which is why it’s so vitally important to recognize that this is for high level advanced athletes only. You need such a strong mental connection to every muscle in your body as well as a keen sense of timing. One small slip up in rhythm could potentially screw you over for life. I wouldn’t even dream of attempting this training style as an intermediate until years and years down my line of progress. Big bravo to all who are already at this stage.

[@GustavoLammerda]

these dudes are followed by the BEST physio, the BEST osteopath, the BEST nutritionists, the BEST muscular therapists, BEST coaches, sport engineers, psychologists and so on in their entire country. Team China is followed by 10-15 professionists who also are the best in the whole china in what they do, and if they all agree that a movement can be done in a specific way without causing injuries (they get fired if they cause damage to an athlete) then you are 100% safe

[@mr.stevenson7005]

It’s called a compound movement, you don’t always have to have “perfect form”

[@a.c.slater573]

Lat pull downs aren’t compounds

[@Sizen_nepal]

Honestly, it's good to educate newbies that are just getting into strength training or bodybuilding, to show that a system dosent need to be trained one way only, but multiple ways to become more primed for sports specific goals.

[@kostia_mu]

All correct explained isolation vs muscle groups s a system (same ist for bicep’s Training for bodyboard armwrestling)You maybe have to start with the difference between bodybuilding and Athletics. Different goals mean different approaches.

[@machokeospower]

Some bodybuilder: “you’re doing it wrong” to the best weightlifter in the world

[@erenyalcn31]

I honestly loved his cable pulldown form, looks very explosive.

[@mowthpeece1]

Looks like good old-fashioned strength training, not just wanting a look. Good for them! Much smarter than we are.

[@jerrycrisp3555]

Bro that’s what I need to do

[@thehumanpractice2985]

When "bad form" has a purpose and consistency, its not bad form.

[@christiantan4715]

They’re not trying to make their physique pretty. They’re conditioning their bodies in performing these kind of movements

[@szafraniec8164]

Well, actually most of those chinese lifters have ridiculously great bodies. But it is hard not to be muscular after pressing > 200 kg daily

[@BraveCat9927]

Which honestly that guys muscles look way more naturally sculpted. Even the technique in those reps look so smooth and fluid unlike the static robotic movements of "proper form"

[@voggi9450]

As long as it isn't bad for you idc how you work out. Just don't break yourself in pursuit of it

[@raminahmadi3000]

Next time someone criticises my form, I’ll show them this short

[@sparkysparkyB00M]

Anyone who is GOATed as Lu can do whatever tf they want and it's probably on purpose and for good reason

[@IDiggPattyMayonnaise]

"form" is dependent on goal. If his goal was hypertrophy it would be considered "bad" but if his goal is explosive strength then he knows exactly what he's doing

[@garrettcochran9169]

If your goal is tearing all your shit then you should lift like this man. World champion or not, lifting like him is what catches up to almost everyone in terms of debilitating injuries. Lu almost retired in 2008 because of injuries. He has historically complained of shoulder, back & knee pain; he wasn't able to snatch for months in 2019.

[@infallibl]

Its true, It can only be considered "bad form" specifically for bodybuilding.. Wonderfully explained brother..

[@IlonggoDad]

It is not bad form. Its the PERFECT FORM for his sport which is Olympic Weightlifting.

[@BirdDawg1]

He understands how his muscles work, form is for those who don't.

[@jason2949]

P R E A C H

[@jater10]

His goal is not to be a bodybuilder but someone who needs to produce force in a short amount of time. Looks like a meme, but probably will try incorporating some similar stuff for training.

[@user-ot2nh8qb7d]

Essentially purposeful function over fleeting aesthetics.

[@382u3uuej]

​@@user-ot2nh8qb7d As if having big muscles did not made you stronger and was just about looking good lmao.

[@fullmetalflix5195]

Isolation anf kinetic chain excersice produce diff results. Very interesting

[@guyonthecouch007]

Whatever he's doing, it's working 💪

[@zackhorner460]

It's kind of the difference between an actual athlete...and a beauty pageant competitor.

[@rockyevans1584]

Sounds like you really like bbers. Not that there's anything wrong with that lol

[@des_pra]

Damn crossfit was legit all along D:

[@JesusChrist42000]

I mean I don't see how people can say it's not when you see a CrossFit video and dude is doing a pushup one handed. Like no feet either lol.

[@benzpinto]

he is not building muscle for aesthetic purposes. he is building muscles for explosive strength.

[@s.omarfarooque1486]

Someone : Your form is bad. Lu : F*ck off I'm the world champion.

[@zooby11isbambam]

It actually looks like his getting really solid muscle activation in all the right areas

[@Mike-bt3ki]

Yes different style of training bodybuilder will talk about time under tension and isolation of certain muscle groups to grow muscle fibres. Olympic weightlifting is training for power/strength, kinetic chain, speed etc. Different style of training. I mean as long as you don't hurt/damage yourself there's no such thing as bad form, but lifting heavy weights will take a toll on your body as you get older regardless of whether you're a bodybuilder or Olympic weightlifter

[@SleightWryder]

I would like to se videos on how to train for that. I'm into training my body as a system.

[@BlackFalconZ850E77]

Building a path to generated explosive 💥 power 👊

[@philyip4432]

If he is a world record holder, yhen his technique is not bad at all. In fact everyone should learn from him.

[@jason2949]

He’s a 5x world record holder actually Insane how so many people in these comments think they know how to lift better than he does lol

[@tontusgaming7589]

bro lu is insanely strong, i 100% would trust whatever he says

[@EpicRivers1]

showing you that showing up to the gym and busting ass is number 1, form can be learned and chosen as you go.

[@KingDudi16]

I think what people forget, when making these comments is that most studies seem to be fairly recent. Even if there are sure-win guides to bodybuilding and strength training, there are always new studies, new methods and new techniques always coming out. A whole generation used to think aerobics was they key. Then another generation thought steroids were the way to get bigger. Then we had farmer-style workouts and strength training. Don't judge, always be open, and understand that as much as there is no guide to the human brain, there is no guide to the body. We just work off what we have seen to work, all hits and misses, isolating the wins and using that to progress further.

[@tellsteveharveyidontwanthe2283]

bro has a demon back while working out he def not doing anything wrong😭💀

[@amandabot58]

Makes sense. Slow and focused movements, i find, are really good for toning and teaching your body to do a certain function. But nobody moves like that in real life, so if you're going to be active, you probably could work out in a reckless and active manner without hurting yourself as long as you practiced with good form up to that point. Just a thought 🤔

[@Daniel-ld7xs]

Looll nobodys judging his “bad form” but he’ll probably rip you a new one 😂

[@scottk1525]

This explanation made so sense.

[@josiahbrown5582]

Xiao can squat nearly 700 lbs despite weighing less than 180. Most men twice his size will never be nearly as strong as him. This is because he is specifically training to develop total body strength & power *without* causing the muscles to grow. If he grows, he will no longer be in the weight class he competes in. So much of his training is ballistic; moving the weight as quickly as possible, recruiting many muscles at once, rather than slowly moving the weight to target only one muscle. This allows him to get stronger & produce more explosive force without gaining size.

[@BudOnTheLeaves]

Rows behind my head is how I injured my shoulder

[@rustyshackleford8473]

Look at that bacne...

[@rickzegooene2193]

@Absalom this is not the right context to use that saying lol

[@rustyshackleford8473]

@Absalom wow the amount of mental gymnastics people will do to insist their "heroes" are natural is mind boggling.

[@rustyshackleford8473]

@@rickzegooene2193 ignore him. He has an anime character for a profile pic. That says it all right there. He has a video of himself struggling to bench 255 lol.

[@Pienoah]

that back is just simply beautiful...

[@JakeSmith-em5sh]

I didn't realize this was even topic of debate? There's lifting for bodybuilding and lifting for various "performance" purposes, in this case specific to a given sport. So why would anyone ever think his form or methods would or should look like how a bodybuilder does the same movements? How is this even in question in weight training circles?

[@danieldunstone6128]

Same reason why heaps people stick to compounds or calithenics where they use more muscle for one hard except there doing strict form no momentum and if done properly very benificual where as the way his doing it his likely to injure themself but same can happen with compounds if done improper.

[@jaymorgan7728]

Training for eplosive power, but leaving yourself open to injury.

[@unomauhasard5219]

I’m guessing it can also probably be healthier for a more casual training as it helps evening muscles groups and train muscles that tend to be forgotten by people who aren’t into training as much.