Why Does This Simple Quartz Watch Cost £10,000? | Watchfinder & Co.

François-Paul Journe, founder of award-winning watchmaker F. P. Journe, is a man who likes to fix problems. Through decades of making watches, Journe has tackled resonant synchronisation, constant force, chronometric precision-and even gravity. He’s also a man who likes to find problems, whether they really needed fixing or not. In high-end watchmaking, quartz is not a problem that anyone thought needed addressing. A cheap, basic, uninteresting technology, quartz has no place in a modern, luxury watch. F. P. Journe, however, disagrees.
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[@watchfinder]

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[@Robstrap]

Because they can charge that much and people will still buy them. Thats why. Come on, I love watches and the history. But can people stop saying "Its worth 20,000 because of the history behind it, they made watches what they are today". Ok so should we spend 20,000 on computers made by apple because "They made it what it is today". They charge it, because people pay it. Nothing else, if everyone stopped buying them they would go down in price. Why do you think watches are now more expensive than they have ever been, because people pay the high prices so they just keep going up. And thats fine, but don't pretend its for any other reason.

[@Aryan-fo1ls]

Too much sense for people to handle

[@ivanlagrossemoule]

There is more and more added value though. Watches are more complex and advanced than they've ever been too. In fact that added value is intentionally over the top, with finish that you won't notice without a microscope. That being said, yeah, that's the point of luxury, it's to buy useless things to show that you have the money.

[@ianmansfield68]

Very well put - particularly about Apple!

[@Bounce625]

100% agree. People are duped into thinking that there is more parts and R&D innsomething like this, when there are many household items which have more. Compare the r&d and parts cost to a 20k car.. Its not even comparable. Watches are just a massive profit trick. However I appreciate what FPJ do. But many many other brands not at all. I cant justify paying 5k+ for a basic auto steel watch.

[@deanagoes2791]

I love my casio w800h..😘😘.what you pay is what you got

[@luism6213]

Casio: "Hold my beer."

[@sinjon]

My solar Casio Oceanus does this same thing with light instead of movement. It was $500. I’ll take my Casio any day

[@mneys-bs9vo]

Beer: "hold my casio"

[@hathaway.1166]

@@sinjon Casio NEEDS to sell these in the rest of the world, if anyone ever doubts or hates Casio, their Oceanus will blow their minds

[@sinjon]

@@hathaway.1166 Agreed. I love my Oceanus

[@hyfy-tr2jy]

my ONLY criticism here is for a $10,000 pound watch, I would have expected the copper coil winding to be far far more neatly wound

[@prozeza]

And the finish on the head of the second hand shaft? It's awful!

[@Watch-Crazy]

@@prozeza Agreed! Actually if you look at the close ups of the motion detector, the top left hand front side of the case, back right hand side of the case, the close ups of the movement... as well as the writing on the battery cover, there are assembly marks, specs of dust and poor finishing to areas of the guilloche. Beautiful design but £10k for a quartz I just don't get it!

[@Bounce625]

Any idea what you 3 guys sound like.

[@Watch-Crazy]

@@Bounce625 Could be one of several possibilities: 1) Mates having a conversation about a watch they have just been shown. 2) Watch snobs. 3) Lunatics discussing an overpriced quartz watch. 4) Middle aged moaning old men. The list is endless, it just depends on how you want to look at it!

[@Bounce625]

@@Watch-Crazy horrible state of affairs if you guys are complaining finishing on a second hand shaft on a watch. Really, get a grip. Come back to reality.

[@votequimby2076]

Speaking of quartz, I'd love to see the Citizen 0100 video

[@artbanks27]

Im not a fan of mother of pearl but the dial on the AQ6020-53X is awesome.

[@manoflego123]

Same here, the technology that went into making it that accurate is fascinating.

[@djfisco]

My Casio LCW-M170DB-1AER employes a similar trick. It's a solar powered watch, and when it spends some time in the dark it progressively turns itself off. First it stops the second hand, then the hour and minute hands after some time, while still keeping the time internally. It all springs back to life after a few moments in the light, it's a nice spectacle seeing the second hand racing to it's current position whenever i pull it out of the drawer.

[@moog247]

So if this was some form of ultra quartz that was +/- 1 sec a decade, I'd get the price. But it isn't.

[@danielmartini3229]

just think of the money you'll save on batteries

[@robertyin4668]

Daniel Martini dude do you realize how cheap batteries are

[@danielmartini3229]

@@robertyin4668 it adds up. after 10-20 years you'll have saved probably $5-15

[@utkarshgupta30]

@@danielmartini3229 😂😂😂

[@plohish1337]

There are watches like Citizen Chronomaster, which are very accurate, price is about 2250$.

[@wooburn_off]

Seiko did this with the Kinetic Auto relay 30 years ago.....I still have one

[@mGARANDEUR1]

Dan Rockell same... and it works great. It keeps time down to the second after months of non use. I was hoping fp journe was competing with spring drive. Kind of disappointed.

[@harrisonmccarn9958]

mGARANDEUR1 Yeah, but there is still a patent for Spring Drive

[@wooburn_off]

mGARANDEUR1 inalso have a spring drive, it’s mesmerising. Still love the auto relay though, so accurate

[@karstensiegmarsson5304]

Me too..... 💕

[@jontoland3491]

Love my prospex

[@taswesty]

I'm sorry I didn't hear a word you said. I couldn't stop staring at the '2' at the twelve position. It looks like the wrong weight, size and angle compared to the '1' It bugged me for the whole video. 😲

[@EazyWarrior]

As someone that truly enjoys history; I really enjoy hearing and learning from an unbias point of view. The respect you have for the underrated prowess of the Japanese has always made me appreciate your work more and more.

[@abcoates]

Just to say that my Casio solar watch also goes to sleep and halts the ticking seconds hand of it detects that of its not being worn.

[@doncorleon9]

My AQ810w still gets me to smile every time it comes out of hibernation while repositioning the hands. 5 years of this simple pleasure.

[@milchpuder]

Yes, and so does my Seiko Premier Kinetic Perpetual which is about 15 years old and can also go into hibernation, has a perpetual calendar and can charge the battery via a rotating mass. I have no doubt this Journe is infinitely more collectable though!

[@Michael-pf8we]

Is that true

[@Shreedhar_Shukla]

Nothing of a surprise for me! Whatever the europeans call their solution has already been with the GREAT ASIANS long time before and much more cheaper. Making something cheap is not at all easy I mean mass production of a new invention and making it available to the public is all why is something invented. That is what the ASIANS do best rather than copying like others.

[@PaddyMcMe]

There's actually a lot to be admired about a good hybrid quartz setup. The watch that got me into watch collecting a decade ago wasn't a Mechanical watch like most but rather a Seiko Kinetic. That Kinetic technology is incredible. No batteries instead a capacitor and a tiny dynamo (rotor) that's suspended with magnetic levitation thus friction free which allows it to spin at a ridiculous 100,000RPM. It also had a Perpetual Calendar and a 4 year Power Saving mode, which is also insane. Plus I got it for $300AUD online from America instead of $1600AUD in all the Jeweller/Watch stores. Kinetic, 100m WR, Chronograph, Perpetual Calendar, Black Ion that still hasn't worn with gold accents on the Dial allowing it to be worn as casual, sports or business. Crazy value.

[@marcogeraldes6332]

You should do a video on the Seiko kinetic auto relay 5J22 0A50, that does all that and more, keeping precise time, and with a beautiful integrated bracelet. Keep up with the great videos!

[@Demoni696]

The finishing on that second hand rivet is appalling.

[@yermanoh]

that thing at the 4 o clock position is bugging the shit out of me

[@rdesigninc5756]

The head of the second hand pinion looks like in came from a £10 Casio watch - let alone £10,000 F.P.Journe

[@abdalvalencia]

Nah, £10 casios have better a finish than this

[@alexkwan3]

My dad's Seiko SNA411 Flightmaster made it 20 years before a battery change, for $200 lol

[@brinx8634]

It's a great watch, but I'm skeptical. I have a flightmaster that has had two battery changes in 11 years.....about 5 years each, as one would expect.

[@alexkwan3]

Brinx did u use the chronograph often? my dad pretty much never used the chronograph, which might be why it lasted so long. the only time he even touches the crown is to adjust the date every 2 months.

[@Niko-rd2uz]

Guys I've got the same and changed the batterie once since I bought it in 2008. I don't wear it on stainless steel bracelet anymore I prefer a nice leather strap which is more classy

[@jordankelly1782]

Is it me or the watch has so many small imperfections... The 5 in 25 has a paint smudge 5:00. The "E" and "M" look terrible compared to the other letters 6:09 . The pin head on the second hand looks rough 5:00. I know all these are under macro lens but at this price point.... Also there is a ding on the case at 10 o'clock 3:21 and looks like a couple ot scratches on the case back near the heart 6:16. Isn't this a watch new? 8 year power for a quartz in rotation tho...that's incredibly impressive. Love the videos. Thank you for sharing!!

[@thejordanflynn]

I was under the impression that the watches he reviews are borrowed/used - which would explain the scratches/dings.

[@TechPanzer]

Watchfinder doesn't sell new watches. They're not an AD...

[@rkillalea6706]

Wow!! well spotted, dings and scratches can be waved off, all the other stuff is down to manufacturing.

[@johnt112]

Also, 9:02 the top and bottom cuts on the gold leafs? Don't match. Absolutely gorgeous watch nonetheless!

[@ultimaetsolder]

Timex can do a 10 year quartz....

[@BlagoP]

Citizen did this years ago. Put the watch away and it stops, bring it out into the light and it starts ticking again. Preserving the battery and not losing time. Of course with any quartz watch you can simply pull the crown out to preserve the battery when not wearing it then set the time again when putting it on, no different than setting the time on a mechanical watch after not wearing it for a few days.

[@markiangooley]

Citizen also has Eco-Drive to get power from a photovoltaic cell, and high-frequency high-accuracy movements accurate to 5 seconds a year…

[@GP-nn9to]

One of the best flexing his muscles. As my 40+ year old seikos, without service, are smiling. Cheers WF.

[@goldendawn7]

Durka durka durka service every 3 years durka durka you'll ruin the watch durka durhhhhh follow the manufacturers recommend durka service intervals durka durka you wouldn't not change your cars durka oil for 40 years durka durhhhhhh

[@simonwood1461]

Another wonderful video. Thank you, guys. I'm going out on a limb here, but willing to wager that you cannot get an F.P. Journe battery swap at Watches R Us for $10.00.

[@dodzb7362]

My cheap casio LCD watches are pinnacle of horology :)

[@sameagle988]

Watchfinder could give them the spinning macro treatment and LCD could be the next Grand Seiko!

[@JonasRosenven]

I like my yellow plastic 22 euro casio as much as my 2000 euro U-BOAT. I don't wear watches to get attention but I get the same amount of attention wearing either of them. Frankly - the casio is the "better" watch in the sense that it is better at keeping time and doesn't have to be winded :)

[@Starstreak170]

Your Casio is more accurate than the highest end mechanical movement.

[@dariofernandez1164]

same reason a richard mille sells for 100k+=sucker attracting marketing

[@marsrocket]

If I had $10 million dollars I might buy a watch for $100,000 and I don't think I'd be a sucker.

[@Dunkaroos248]

Buying a $100,000 watch is the same as buying a Ferrari or a yacht, cause you can. A Mille is an ugly, loud watch but it lets those with submariners and royal oaks know that you are in a different league. Billionaires need exclusivity.

[@ZurriyetBlogs]

@@marsrocket get a tourbillon 100k usd

[@AlexD12345]

@@marsrocket Incorrect, no matter how much money you have, it will still be a sucker.

[@nealfernandez9523]

@@Dunkaroos248 for $100k timepieces, I'll stick to patek Philippe and A.Lange & Söhne. Richard mille, design by 5 year olds with crayons

[@OBWAT]

5:00 for £10,000 you'd hope the centre of the seconds hand would be better finished. The rough finishing is visible even without a macro lense!

[@afarhan21]

But Seiko has a kinetic drive movt. that pretty much does the same thing. btw no offense to FPJ, but spring drive, again Seiko, is the best 'Quartz' based movement.

[@nickhalewijn5668]

7:30 is when the video starts getting somewhat interesting.

[@TheNotoriousKID]

I’m happy to see high horology houses approach quartz engines in their watches with the same attention they do traditional mechanical engines... if you can’t appreciate the genius service a quartz crystal plays in modern time keeping you’re just a snob.. also I have 2 beautiful Seiko premier perpetual calendars on bracelets that do this exact same power save feature, and it is a wonder to see the time adjust itself, date and all, to the very second when the watch’s kinetic movement is shaken out of sleep mode.

[@Reaching117]

What models do you have?

[@sameagle988]

"Quality quartz".. Like "quality LCD" or "quality polyester" . It's an oxymoron.

[@tusmaniandevil]

The Notorious. K.I.D I think writing off anyone who doesn’t like quartz as a snob is a bit unfair. I am a watchmaker myself and hopefully I can offer you my insight on how I’ve formed my opinion on quartz. First of all: in the vast majority of quartz watches there is no genius quality like you say as opposed to mechanical watches. There really isn’t. The movements need to be serviced more often, parts need to be replaced more often and the general lifespan of these movements is usually just far shorter. That said I still think the *functionality* of quartz is quite genius. It is very accurate and in general much less vulnerable (funny enough not in all cases). Those are in general the most important things for people and there is nothing wrong with that. That said, the reasons I don’t like quartz for myself are mainly the fact that as a watchmaker, there is no craftsmanship in these watches since movements are often completely made in a factory automated process, and completely replaced when they come in for service since that’s literally cheaper then spending the time to service a movement. The other reason why I don’t like quartz is that there are some fundamental characteristics of the movement that irritate me. A good example of this is that the second hand of a quartz watch will never strike perfectly on all 60 indexes because of several factors. I say this because to me, watchmaking is largely about the pursuit of perfection. This just simply is less important in the quartz industry where cost efficiency and accuracy are the name of the game. (Sorry for the lengthy reaction. This topic is just one I can get especially passionate about 😉)

[@Starstreak170]

​@@tusmaniandevilA watchmaker you say? You're either extremely ignorant or a liar. "in the vast majority of quartz watches there is no genius quality like you say as opposed to mechanical watches. There really isn’t. The movements need to be serviced more often, parts need to be replaced more often and the general lifespan of these movements is usually just far shorter. " A decent quality Japanese/Swiss quartz movement that you find in a basic $50 watch will run for decades with no servicing, besides battery changes, whilst retaining its accuracy and durability. No mechanical movement can do that. Many 1970s quartz watches are still running today without any issues. "A good example of this is that the second hand of a quartz watch will never strike perfectly on all 60 indexes because of several factors." Many quartz movements do reliably hit the indices with the second hand. Examples include the Grand Seiko 9F, Longines VHP, Casio Oceanus lineups to name but a few. Even many sub $100 Casio and Citizen models achieve this as well. I don't understand how any real watchmaker is not aware of these basic facts. Only thing keeping the Swiss mechanical watch industry alive today is effective marketing They've convinced some people that mass produced mechanical movements on an assembly line are somehow works of art. The Swiss called it the 'Quartz Crisis', but it truly was the 'Quartz Revolution.'

[@TheDerisavi]

tusmaniandevil Mr. watchmaker, have a look at any GrandSeiko quartz and then read what you wrote.

[@MrShinobi797]

I'll just hold on to my Citizen Eco Drive thank you very much. Its been 9 years now and I never had to consider a battery replacement.; and possibly wouldn't for another 9 years more...all for a fraction of the price of this F P Quartz.

[@greaterbayareahero1401]

The more I look at this watch the more appealing it is. Journe thought process is perfection. The reason he put the motion detector over the 4 is 4 is a bad number for Chinese which mean death and to block this number out is like saying wear this for long life. He is a genius!

[@sameagle988]

A Quartz Watch for £10,000? A monumental screwjob.

[@vast634]

I you can afford a £10,000 quartz watch, and noone can complain: you have made it

[@TshepisoJames]

Couldn’t agree more

[@an1rb]

When I was a kid, around 1995, my first watch was a Titan (the Indian brand owned by TATA) Exacta quartz costing then about USD 9. In the 25 years since, it needed a battery change just 3 times and still runs perfectly (it loses about 30 seconds a year). I know this is hard to believe, but there it is.

[@rashad9014]

Your titan watch is powred by a Japanese movement probably Mayta, so don't be such proud

[@nishantprakash5928]

@@rashad9014 as if Pakistan has legendary watchmakers. That watch may have a miyota movement, it's still good value

[@reza313_]

being a *Proud* owner of a few Titans and HMTs I can say that these are very beautiful, reliable and robust watches. two watch brands which brought affordable timepieces to the common man of India. truly the people's watch brands. owing them is nothing less than *Pride* in itself

[@killswitch3ngag3]

@@nishantprakash5928 Have some shame. Bringing politics into this too. We don't need this.

[@michaelbrooks1061]

A great, easy to wear, unique offering from FPJ . Very light , extremely comfortable, durable, titanium case with extra hardened grey Titalyt coating. Water resistant to 30m- safe to swim in. Certainly a place for a high end unique quartz piece in any collection. Plus no need for a winder. This watch is very tough to find new (or even pre owned) and wait lists are common. This is, in no way, a regular quartz watch. The 10-18 year life for the battery is unrivaled. Folks comparing this to a casio shouldn't waste their time watching these great videos. Gotta love these Watchfinder videos !

[@MrVitamincpp]

MIne Seiko Kinetic Auto Relay does the same and it could be hibernated up to 4 years.

[@sbsb4995]

Seiko always cuts corners and can't keep proper time. Seiko kinetic can't hibernate for 4 years. You have been bluffed. I am an owner if Seiko kinetic too. I know.

[@vecernicek2]

My G-Shock has this power-saving function too, though..

[@Richie_P]

And a mechanical F.P. Journe is just like a cheap mechanical Invicta. Same technology.

[@perk8601]

Its about the craftsmanship lmao.

[@jbbrabant]

“A lot a bit of bad blood” hmm. I enjoyed the video as always & I have nothing against quartz but I cannot get my head around the price of this baron timepiece that doesn’t even tick or tock.

[@enriqueali]

F. P. Journe may be a horological genius (and all available evidence seems to support this view). But I find it funny how one can find so many commentators, both here on KZbin as well as on numerous other watch forums, who all seem to share a common trend for using a multiplicity of polite-sounding euphemisms to avoid describing the man himself as basically a bit of an a..hole! "A very hard man to please" "so particular in his day to day life" 😆😆😆😆

[@Starstreak170]

Lots of quartz watches have a battery lives of over 5 year. A solar quartz can run for decades without needing any servicing.

[@JLchevz]

but theyre not F.P. Journe

[@Starstreak170]

@@JLchevz Yeah, makes FP Journe look like shit. They should be using a +/- 1 second per year high accuracy thermocompensated movement with a 10 year battery life and perpetual calendar considering the astronomical price. I'd also expect the second hand to hit every index, Casio can do it for $50.

[@richystocles]

Hi Watchfinder I very much appreciate your videos and I think if I ever come to acquire one of those beauties, it will be mostly because of you. There is one thing I would like to suggest, and it is not regarding this one video: Could you add a tiny segment to your video formula, or template, dedicated to sound ? I guess it might add to the challenge of making those great videos, but I know I would be totally put off by a marvelous watch which would sound to loud (I mean, in the dead of the night kind of silence) or a rewinding sound that would feel cranky. Plus I wonder if there are different kind of sounds, according to different kind of movements etc... Thanks again for those great video, your are doing an amazing job

[@trampolinetricksguys]

How does it know the correct time when you pick the watch back up?

[@harry-eto]

3:18 notice how perfectly parallel the watch is aligned to the Video frame

[@appalachiangunman9589]

I love the font of the numerals on this dial, it looks similar to what you’d see on a Victorian-era pocket watch.

[@fanboy-industries]

I would love to see a lot more high end quartz.

[@maverickbonato8164]

Hm... The second's hand that doesn't perfectly hit the marks on a £10.000 watch really bothers me haha.

[@smashexentertainment676]

It's an angle through the sapphire crystal, I'm sure seconds hand alignment is very well done ;)

[@djfisco]

I'm more bothered by the poorly finished middle of the seconds hand. Also the print could be a bit more crisp for that money.

[@GG-gk7jn]

It’s the angle

[@TheNotoriousKID]

Rolex wait list is a ridiculous wait list.. F.P. journe enters chat..

[@enriqueali]

Then Roger W. Smith raises one eyebrow quizzically..😆😆😆

[@geo40211]

Wonderful presentation, thank you Watchfinder !!

[@wanfahimi]

So this watch has a secondary time keeping while it sleeps?

[@bivinbk]

Could you please review the Rectangular AP Royal Oak. Very little content about it anywhere online

[@tautliners]

I have a citron gold plated quartz watch I won from a pub fruit machine in the 90's it only gains about 2 seconds a week and worth about a tenner. Sooo reliable and still looks like new. 👍

[@lolotube100]

All of that and all it does is stop moving the hands when you stop moving the watch? Wooow. Solar power watches and especially Seiko's spring drive are more impressive in that they don't need a button cell battery.

[@pradeep2662]

it then sets itself to the exact minute, second and hour when you move it after few days. You dont bother about setting the right time again. Sort of like how phones and computers remember the time even when theyre switched off and even when you switch the sync with time zones off. Theres a chip that does it .

[@hiyukelavie2396]

@@pradeep2662 That's exactly what Casio watches do

[@pradeep2662]

@@hiyukelavie2396 but they're Casio though

[@fastman119]

WOW!!! That's incredible. I was starting to see this watch on Instagram, but I NEVER would've guessed it was quartz. What a unique function for motion detection, interesting how it can pick up right where it left off with the correct time. The more you think about it, the more complicated it becomes...

[@hiyukelavie2396]

Casio LCW-M170DB

[@canonyeo4286]

Wow, seiko kinetic and solar would now be considered high horology. Ya, why not? The only thing they have to do is to increase the £1000 so that it's not CHEAP.

[@AtheistOrphan]

The most unusual quartz watch I ever owned was a Sinclair ‘Grey Watch’.

[@Raph.Bogaert]

The movement and "motion detector" is not special at all.. It's also "only" 10k for a watch from a brand that has a very big name in the scene. It suprises me that you don't mention that a lot of the cost goes into the finishing of the dial, case & bracelet/strap... and the other 9k you pay for the name on the dial. :)

[@greaterbayareahero1401]

Ralph to be fair it took Journe 8 years to design this watch. The 9K is what you are paying him to invest him time, dedication and creativity with the rest of his team to bring this to the revision he is on now. You need to think in a way how people invest in Kickstarter to get this concept off the ground. If it wasn’t for the 9K we could not have got such an original watch in production. I would be happy to pay this sum. In fact I will put in an order this weekend for it and sit on the waiting list. In short could I pay you 1k to get a watch better than this? I doubt it. Don’t knock it unless you can do better and understand the pain he had to go through to get this out. He could easily did another Chrono piece earning 5-10 times this amount but he chose to do this. We need to encourage and give credit to those who invent and make it come to life especially if you are a true horology fan.

[@samsum3738]

I must admit , i did not notice the imperfections , that many other people pointed out .But , like the curate s egg it was good in parts .But very expensive for a quartz and even i noticed that great hole in the bottom .I give it 6 out of 10 .

[@lucianoviacava6537]

Congratulations for the new locations !!!!!!!!

[@dtomli1]

Thanks KZbin for suggesting I rewatch this in 2023. This watch now trades for $40 - 50,000. Yet another watch I could have purchased before the pandemic that could now contribute to my retirement.

[@5amH45lam]

So... there's no justifiable excuse for such a high price tag?

[@jileel]

They charge that amount because they know a few suckers will buy it. :/

[@victorbgdream8328]

Pure genius indeed... But I will make a reference to one of your past videos were quartz is compared to mechanical and you closed the video with the following sentence "yes, quartz is better than mechanical, we just don't care". Thank you for the insight on this beautiful piece.

[@rajgill7576]

This channel kickstarted and refined my taste in watches. I bought 2 grand seikos this year. The last one quartz

[@bordezangakombo5066]

What was I doing 2 years ago???? How come I didn’t buy this watch.

[@HandXfBlxxd]

1:55 "it's not a watch you buy, its a legacy" No, it's a watch. And a quartz one on top. The "legacy" of the concern doesnt justify prices that high, especially when it's got a quartz movement which are also used in 100€ Casios. That's like apple telling us paying 100.000$ for a computer which is worth 100$ is justified because of apples legacy. It's not. You can make prices higher than the actual value, but not that high.

[@PerfectPetProductions]

Interesting stuff! François-Paul Journe, absolute geneous!

[@scotthayes2652]

Grand Seiko, Seiko and Citizen have been leading the way on spring drive, kinetic and solar power for ages, and then these boys come along thing that have invented the wheel 🤣

[@hugedickerinokripperino5299]

Scott Hayes pretty much all movements work the same and have the same type of mechanisms. How it that any different than 99% of all mechanical/automatic watches

[@adityasambhare]

Just one question, how did you put that dent in the camera?

[@TGE]

Watch the price of these 🚀🚀🚀🚀📈📈📈📈

[@brianlloyd4796]

Wow! Never realised why the second hand never steeped, educated today! Great videos

[@aromaticsnail]

A good eye-opener for the snobs (along with Seiko's own approach)

[@mcclechinois3721]

Sounds very interesting, it surely is ingenious! I wonder what is he currently working to overcome?

[@Davyjones5454]

Really great video. But 80% of this video is not talking about this particular watch or it’s movement. What’s is the history of this movement ? Did JPF collaborated with another company for this movement ? Which company did the Microcircuit for FPJ ? How accurate is it ? Etc etc

[@MartinHeadzz]

Nice to see that modern Tech mixing with that classic dial ....... OMG that dial, so nice. They must put that in a classic watch.

[@kinsoncooper7333]

I give you flak for some of your biases. So, I have to give credit where credit is due... great video. Same energy for quartz, encouraging companies and consumers to step their game up. 👍🏽👍🏽

[@RobertBrownieJr]

That second hand doesn't line up. As usual, incredibly well written though

[@runrin_]

the circuit board traces are really nice. looks hand drawn like they did before computer aided design.

[@davidwilliamauston]

The titalyt case makes this watch look great on any color strap. Yellow and orange seem to pop the most.

[@squeakD]

This watch cost 10,000 because they know that some people will pay it. However, that movement isn’t anything special IMO. My Casio Tough Solar does the same thing. If I don’t wear it, LCD display and the hands shut down to conserve battery. It can sit in a drawer like that for almost two years before needing charged again. When I put it on my wrist after a few days, LCD turns on, and the hands move on their own to the current time. This company should leave high end quartz to Grand Seiko and Citizen.

[@NFTGoldBunny]

It’s too expensive for what it is! Seems like a cash cow for his business!

[@Raven240994]

"To help ships sail the sea, planes navigate the skies, astronomers plot out place in the universe" My favorite quote! Wonderful video!

[@jacktyler5241]

It looks like they found the second hand pinion on the floor of a counterfeit Casio factory, after it failed quality assurance. It’s a shame because the rest of it I friggin love.

[@be5952]

Oh, good. I hoped I wasn't the only one who saw that and figured for BP10,000 I'd expect a bit better attention to detail. (And thanks for educating me that it's called a pinion!)

[@krystianstepien5835]

5:20 why doesn`t the minute hand not moved forward when the second hand passed the 60 second mark ? Just 4 second later ??

[@FitOutPost]

I'm glad you'd stopped bagging for subscriptions.

[@ismaelbonal6537]

Despite the innovative Quartz idea behind the watch, I couldn't help thinking how amazing it would have been if it had housed a mechanical movement.

[@liamberkelaar8496]

quartz is the future, mechanical watches are for boomers

[@LTC_Tiger]

@@liamberkelaar8496 As a millennial who has sworn off of battery powered watches (since they always seemed to be dead when I needed them most), I can tell you that you are flat out wrong. Also, mechanical watches are far more sustainable than quartz watches which rely on disposable batteries.

[@omnipotato98]

@@liamberkelaar8496 Quartz was the future 50 years ago. Quartz watches are for boomers and gen x, mechanical watches (and cool quartz functionality like this watch and spring drive) are for anyone who appreciates the ingenuity and art that goes into making them.

[@liamberkelaar8496]

@@omnipotato98 thanks for proving my point

[@liamberkelaar8496]

@@LTC_Tiger solar tech m8 look it up

[@manoflego123]

My brother's Casio was left in a drawer for a decade and not only was it still ticking, but through some amazing fluke it was ridiculously close to perfect time. As in less than 20 seconds off. I have no idea how that happened, but it was impressive.

[@michaelgallon9431]

Another brilliant video, and always and education.

[@anekataiwan9115]

No disrespect to Journe, but 16K for a quartz watch. Accurate time keeping via quartz would be a beater watch, not a Journe watch. It's like dressing up a Taxi with Maclaren . Hurricane exteriors and interiors. I'll pick a Toyota .

[@rayh5686]

Hi, can you do a review on a BapeX? I'm really excited to see it.

[@marklipson]

I can appreciate the beauty, craftsmanship and quality of this watch. I admire the commitment to excellence, the insistence on perfection despite the additional difficulty. I want to separate the above comment from my next one because it's subjective, a flat, non-argumentative statement about how I feel about this watch, this specific F.P. Journe, and I didn't want to seem to be taking anything away from that. It's a pretty, carefully considered, really well-made watch by people who truly care about watches and watchmaking (and damn the torpedoes). Okay, that all said, my next comment should be a little more objective... A completely lit watch face is a great idea. Period. The fact that the feature is available in $20-30 watches shouldn't be used to imply a high horology watchmaker is somehow "slumming" when it incorporates this feature (now, I could be wrong, but that's how I took the comment about Journe's use here as evidence of his sense of humour; again, perhaps I misunderstood or I'm being picky--if so, my apologies). I think some of the perceived snobbiness about high-end watches could be alleviated by eschewing unnecessary "us vs them" elitism. The way I look at it, the Rolexes, the Pateks, the Vacheron Constantins, the Journes, etc., are already differentiated enough from the mass market mainstream by their exquisite quality, their superb craftsmanship, their luxurious materials, their historical pedigree and, of course, their price tags. I don't think they need any help maintaining their deserved exalted status...To me, they seem fairly secure atop their pedestals. But fair's fair: when cheaper brands do something worth celebrating, they too deserve my respect. And when that something is adopted by higher end brands, if that can't be acknowledged, at least we can respect it enough to not belittle the accomplishment with an off-the-cuff joke. I know this sounds hyper-sensitive, but I just want to put some emphasis a very tiny but important point that sometimes gets lost. Journe didn't use the Indiglo-style backlight as some kind sly in-joke that only watch sophisticates will get, anymore than their use of quartz tech is some campy nod to the cheap seats. Like I said, fair is fair...You can't say out of one side of your mouth that one part of the watch's concept is cool because it takes inexpensive tech and ratchets it up several notches but out of the other side you derogate another tech used by cheaper. P.S. - Just for the record, this is my favourite YT channel. Its great.

[@thegougy]

Excellent, I had an, Qysterqartz, Grand Seiko, Campanola - Now I am afraid I need this FPJ :D

[@doncarlodivargas5497]

Can I change the battery myself?

[@operator_smooth]

Despite the crazy watches that are already fascinating on their one, the real key to your videos is that absolut high end English. Huge probs. Love it

[@Melvs15]

When it restarts does it snap to the current time?

[@nrbrown5985]

yes

[@Sunfade38]

Some people ask me about why I wear a watch when a phone is available, why bother fixing the time on my watch, when the atomic cloud is more accurate, why I spend as much money as I do on my hobby. Sometimes, it's difficult to justify why I do all these things. But then a video like this comes along and leaves me feeling inspired about the journey mankind has taken through horology and history. If someone doesn't 'get' watches, all they have to do is watch a video from this channel.

[@jharris947]

But does the second hand accurately hit the indices?...Unimpressed with the see-through case back on a quartz watch! This watch is way, way, down on my list of £10,000 must have watches.

[@jollyrob]

There's a list of those haha. I bet by "must have" you actually mean "wish I could afford " watches.

[@msbrownbeast]

All these features could easily be incorporated into a $10 watch made in the Far East.

[@robertsullivan4773]

And if you think that's a good thing then why are you here.

[@spaceman-pe5je]

@@robertsullivan4773 why wouldn't it be a good thing?

[@pyroisacooldude]

they can be incorporated but the craftsmanship cannot. That is the big difference here

[@tusmaniandevil]

How much paint have u been huffing? If you truly think that u have no clue about a single thing in the production process of a watch like this...

[@zaidmousa9867]

Can quartz watches be serviced similar to mechanical and last for decades?

[@alinntimpu2943]

"Why a man making watches worth tens of thousand might dedicate his time to quartz" And the answer really is, he didn't. He had nothing to do with the movement, maybe he asked to put a little gold heart in there to masquerade the price. You might want to rationalize until the end of times, the reality is the same.

[@SunilSingh-vp2zp]

Dont you ever question fp journe's work in recent years That man is a genius Watch the other fp journe's watch videos And also making quartz work for 8 years is godly with those movement sensor

[@Martin-wb8bc]

@@SunilSingh-vp2zp but isn't there a lot of corporate incentive to keep the public perception that way to maintain their brand name and worth.. lol

[@yeojunnam]

Slight error in the title: it is not even close to a "simple" quartz.

[@hammy7528]

This video has me obsessed with this watch

[@laurentfargues8113]

Cool but my citizen ecodrive does this too. It stops if I don't use it a lot and keeps time internally. And since this is an ecodrive there's no need to think about the battery anyway. Moreover it has a (useful for me) worldtime function. All of this for something like 250 €

[@MC-yh9bw]

So when the Swiss do something with Quartz it's celebrated but when the Japanese do something its largely ignored and considered cheap. Why does the industry do this? Is it racism or resentment? Seiko has Solar, Kinetic and Spring Drive (all seemingly superior to this ) yet the industry doesn't give these huge praise besides Seiko fans. That being said love Watchfinder, best narrator out there, he could talk tax law and I'd subscribe.

[@hiyukelavie2396]

The effort by the Swiss to brainwash the world into thinking "Swiss, mechanical = quality, expensive, highly skilled production" while "Japanese, Quartz = tacky, cheap, low tech junk" is nothing short of a marvel It is my opinion that it is one of the most successful marketing communications campaign of all time, and it should be a case study for all marcomm students And yes, the answer to your question is low-key racism; those yellow skinned rice farmers will never be able to do anything better than a white man, it is impossible because it is just a law of nature

[@ocb05]

This is what we called, Swiss Snobs. To them, anything non-swiss = unreliable, inaccurate, cheaply made, low pedigree. COSC is overrated. My miyota 9039 gives +2 sec after regulation "Swiss made"? More like assembled at Swiss, but the parts are mostly from China and various Asian countries. Cheaply made? Come on, a cheapo swatch can sell hundreds and you guys praise it, while a cheap japanese watch which is way better than a swatch gets nothing. Low pedigree? Except for the kinds of Pateks and ALS, majority of the Swiss makes are wiped out by your so called "low pedigree" Seiko, Citizen, and Casio. Dead pedigree is worse than any pedigree.

[@Shreedhar_Shukla]

@@hiyukelavie2396 🤣🤣🤣 good joke on racism. The whites being good really good joke. You made my day buddy. 😂😂

[@TheFuckinfunkin]

they're getting their revenge now, there's only a few japanese luxury watch makers.... i think the swiss watch industry is still sore they got their asses beat, hard

[@goldendawn7]

Yes clearly racism that a watchmaker known for handmade solid gold movements makes a completely out of left field ultra high end watch powered by quartz and is the subject of a watchfinder video for it while seiko, still largely known for $100 5s with unregulated movements and mass machine produced quartz watches doesn't get put on the same pedestal for doing what they've always done. Clearly if Van Gogh deviated to making sculptures of disproportionate rubinesque people it would be racist to explor that exploration of unfamiliar territory when Botero had been known for that same style. Or you could just look up the videos watchfinder has produced praising seiko's spring drive all the same. But racism is the obvious choice, since no one today acknowledges the design and manufacturing brilliance of the Japanese, right? I mean it's not like Toyota eats Chevy's lunch or anything 🤔