Why Don't New York City Subways Have Platform Barriers?

Safety advocates say that adding platform barrier doors - seen in transit hubs like London and many U.S. airports - can help save people from ending up on subway tracks, and it’s not a new idea. But the MTA said that the idea wouldn’t work.
Though some believe if there's a will, there's a way.
The new push for safety comes after Michelle Go was pushed to her death in front of a subway train at the Times Square station Saturday.

[@hansonel]

Those reasons the MTA chairman gave of why barriers can't be installed are nonsense. London and Tokyo are much older than NYC and they have subway barriers that are ADA accessible... It's really about money they don't want to spend. "It is never been prioritized - and that's a failure." 100% right. Safety and infastructure improvements need to be a priority at this point. There's no excuse.

[@stevenroshni1228]

any system built in recent decades is accessible, including our Airtrain.

[@moontecker]

Its always about money.

[@ninofromkitchennightmares1497]

There is though Your system has Cars that have different door placements Suddenly adding platform doors would result in entire fleets being retired and needing an entirely new fleet of R160s or R211s A Set of subway cars can already cost around a million Times that by the amount of sets you need to replace That would soar over the billions and would leave NYC paralyzed and possibly broke

[@imrytebeehyneu]

@@ninofromkitchennightmares1497 then how do we prevent people of not being pushed on the tracks?!! And don't tell me that ' they need to watch their surroundings ' cause that doesn't help...

Tokyo's subway was in 1927 and London's Tube doesn't have barriers and they do have similar pushing incidents but rare. Have you looked at the stations and cars? Newer cars have different door lengths and what if they A / C train is routed over the F line? Nope different cars. Some stations have narrow platforms so are sloped or curved like Union Square. The reality is that is is not that feasible.

[@Drpglass]

When I visited Thailand, a ‘third world’ country in 2006, the subway in Bangkok had barriers. How is it that the richest country in the world can’t afford to keep its citizens safe? Could it be misplaced values ?

[@iu2]

Because safety is never a priority in this country. Only personal gun rights (never shown to actually provide safety) and $$$$ are important.

[@eggheadegghead]

How much do the managers/executives, contracting firms are making out of the NYC public transport system? Just think about it......sad.

[@ed2166]

Basically what they are saying is that such a project would be so expensive that the MTA wouldn't have enough money to pay their executives millions of dollars in yearly bonuses.

[@imrytebeehyneu]

Watch, they're gonna say " Welp, if y'all want that SPB, we're gonna hike your fare. Plain and simple. "

[@tyresecarter5539]

Exactly!

[@tyresecarter5539]

@@imrytebeehyneu You know that's exactly what is going to happen!

[@ninofromkitchennightmares1497]

Ah yes Except fare hopping costs the MTA millions of dollars in revenue loss You then have to pay police so that doesn’t happen hence the massive fare hikes Then maintenance cost of such an ancient system Honestly people never take in all the variables but then think the MTA is just half-assing

[@imrytebeehyneu]

@@ninofromkitchennightmares1497 the evasion is still going on in jamaica queens at late night when young black riders come in and look at the MTA driver.......and the driver let them in instead of saying " Hey, where's your metrocard? " Never said that. Camera should be installed if MTA wants to save their ass. And what about the essential workers at night last year? MTA is OK by giving them a free ride. Totally, EVERYBODY a free ride. Maintenance costs? How's London underground station been doing all these years? MTA losing money my ass

[@mrhymer95]

Unfortunately its all about money, and not about the safety of NYC straphangers.

[@imrytebeehyneu]

Unless if the new trains that the MTA is building, add cameras in their cars, then THAT could be an improvement

[@BowserHype27]

@@imrytebeehyneu the brand new R211 subway cars will include cameras inside and will be in service later this year.

[@imrytebeehyneu]

@@BowserHype27 yaaaaay...🎉🎊

[@dankyourwaifu]

@@imrytebeehyneu wait your telling me there are no cameras on subway cars?... Good to know..

[@servor3313]

@@dankyourwaifu your mine

[@TheVampyrOfMyli]

As someone who works in Manhattan all I have to say is.. 5 train 125th street, 2 train 125th street, 2 train 110th street... Smfh stay on guard on those platforms and those areas surrounding the train station in general. The homeless/drug addicts & gangs out there make it seem like you live in a dangerous 3rd world country, while being surrounded by wealth/money in supposedly one of the richest cities in the country.. where is the money going to? Why is this becoming worse than before?

[@anntrope491]

PLEASE STOP PERPETUATING THE MYTH THAT WE ARE THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY...200 WEALTHY AMERICANS AT THE TOP HAVE MORE WEALTH THAN 150 MILLION AMERICANS AT THE BOTTOM...WAGES WERE STAGNANT FOR 40 YEARS, WITH NO INCREASE WITH THE COST OF LIVING FOR FOUR DECADES!! 5 MEN ON THE PLANET HAVE MORE WEALTH THAN 3.5 BILLION PEOPLE ON THE EARTH!!! THIS WEALTH IS BUILT ON SLAVE WAGES!!! EVERY 10 YEARS WALL ST. RIPS OFF WORKING CLASS 401KS BY INSIDE RIGGING...TO THE TUNE OF 60 TRILLION DOLLARS IN 2008, & 2020 !!! THE WEALTHY QUADRUPLED THEIR WEALTH FROM THE PANDEMIC/ENDEMIC IN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WHILE MORE, & MORE PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM END UP HOMELESS! POVERTY BREEDS DESPERATION, & CRIME...

[@shaun5328]

War and its related industries, NGOs that has a tendency for starting political revolutions, trust fund kids, and politicians

[@rp-bh9qi]

The root of the problem is Western media spreading racism about Asian. Anti-Asian hate crime spike in the last 2 spreading due the spread of Western propaganda.

[@paulcooper9675]

Ask DiBlasio. He set up the circumstances for this.

[@HS-cf4lb]

Keep voting democrats in to office...to them there's no problem.

[@jilow6356]

How about actually keeping criminals (repeating offenders) behind bars? Having a barrier is just a preventative measure but it is not a sure way to save lives from the hands of criminals.

[@jimbo1637]

The problem with this attitude is that it creates MASSIVE permanent holding facilities that cost tax payers and insane amount of money. And while some criminals can't be rehabilitated, some can. Forcing the ones that have the potential to become productive members of society to become burdens on the state is crazy. The solution is to help these people, not just lock them in a box somewhere.

[@DZ-bz1ww]

@@jimbo1637 Money is not the issue, it's just allocation of funds vs what is deemed more important. Forcing criminals that can't be rehabilitated to walk among society is a burden to the community. And, I think it is a human right for civilians to walk in the streets and feel safe. Normal people should not have to walk out in the street and be paranoid of what might happen. I think zero tolerance is the only solution. crazies go to rehabilitation centers and public executions for murderers. For those that could be rehabilitated, they should learn from these consequences that they don't end up in rehab centers or get executed.

[@mynamesjeff.f]

Should just bring back the death penalty for some who are unredeemable, such as mass murderers, psychotic lunatics, or criminals with heinous rep sheet.

[@jilow6356]

@@jimbo1637 do you have selective hearing and reading skills? Clearly mentioned (repeating offenders) and yes it’s clear that if you are repeating offender then you have no desire to change your ways and rehabilitate then you don’t deserve to be in society with other people.

[@jimbo1637]

@@DZ-bz1ww no one is saying murders should walk free. What I'm saying is American prisons do not attempt to rehabilitate anyone, they're just a box where we shove people who've committed crimes. Let's say I can't get a job, so I sell weed to feed my family. Instead of getting job training, I'm labeled a felon and thrown in jail. When I get released, in most states I will immediately owe a supervision fee to my parole office. The only issue is, since I'm a felon, I can't get a job. So now I'm back in the exact same situation as before. I need money, but can't get a job. In all likelihood, this means I will have to go back to selling drugs to pay the state. If I had been given job training instead of getting sent to jail, I would likely be a productive tax payer at this point, but prison forced me back to selling drugs.

[@debralavorata546]

The answer is very simple,the MTA refuses to use any monies allocated to them for much needed things like barriers. The money collected from fare hikes,this new amount of money coming to them soon,none of it is accounted for,or made public what is done with it.A million times over barriers could have been put up,to avoid tradgedis like this one.All the big wigs on the MTA board seem to be benefiting from the money,not the passengers,they have to be made accountable for misspent money

[@jamallhayden2512]

“It would be very difficult to retrofit a barrier door system onto the existing New York subway system. Train sets are of different model cars and lengths for instance and they couldn't all line up exactly where the platform doors were situated. It would also require a centrally operated system to control exactly where trains stop on the platform. These systems are a good idea - but practical only for systems being built new, not retrofitted.” Credit @Montgomery Mall

[@debralavorata546]

@@jamallhayden2512 yes while that may be true,there might be a way to have it worked out by engineers because there could be a trillion cops,it's not going to stop a random attack,this isn't the first one and it won't be the last.There has to be someway to prevent these killings and a barrier system is the only way

[@jamallhayden2512]

@@debralavorata546 Thats not necessarily true. Another way is for people to be more aware of there surroundings and to not go near the platform edge until after the train arrives.

[@debralavorata546]

@@jamallhayden2512 that's true too,I'm not on the subways to often,but I plant myself on the stairs until the train is all the way in.But the sad reality is we don't have eight spider eyes to see what might be coming at us when we least expect it

[@VChong1991]

They rather spend money on credit/debit card swipers than to implement simple barriers. I call bullshit.

[@SuperBrianMak]

Michelle Go had the rest of her life to look forward to...she was 40. I'm so, so sorry for her. And I'm especially sorry for her family's loss. Horrible.

[@redarrowhead2]

And she actually worked for a living instead of many people

[@SuperBrianMak]

@@redarrowhead2 ...a lot of people work for a living. What are you talking about? 🤨

[@_Wai_Wai_]

@@SuperBrianMak too many black people are on the streets begging for spare change

[@newt6205]

How about you keep dangerous people locked up for starters

[@imrytebeehyneu]

Which one

[@newt6205]

@@imrytebeehyneu let’s start with the politicians

[@imrytebeehyneu]

@@newt6205 were talking about the subway. And Trump lost. Get over it

[@newt6205]

@@imrytebeehyneu ok i didn’t vote for him….weirdo

[@imrytebeehyneu]

@@newt6205 but you vote for Blasio.

[@liamlee8422]

I understand doors are not feasible given the 100 year old subway system but you can put up some metal fences like the ones on the NY streets to have some barriers. if people stand behind those barriers, being pushed to the track is not happening

[@rexology1431]

I was saying the same thing. You don’t need a whole glass door to prevent accidents. Do they have a whole glass wall near the ocean to prevent people from falling? No. They can simply add a glass/metal fence that pretty much does the same job and wouldn’t really interfere with infrastructure as much as a whole wall

[@imrytebeehyneu]

And I said before, that's bullshit. MTA already built the new Second Ave subway station in 2017 and the AirTrain stations in Jamaica and ALL in JFK stations. Age my ass, they GOT the money.

[@malcolm4458]

Exactly, this is why I hate this bureaucratic bs. Metal fences allow airflow. We can figure out ADA accessibility. This would virtually eliminate this nonsense.

[@RobertF-]

They should put a ton more benches and seats everywhere in all the stations so everyone can just sit down while they"re waiting for the train, and don't get up until the front of the train has passed them.

[@annag.799]

@@malcolm4458 The homeless would just sleep there. Although some narrow platforms have leaning benches.

[@davidcaunter5346]

Why doesn’t New York do something about crime rather than blame inanimate objects?

[@shaun5328]

Cause that would be impossible…

[@Scarsofevil]

It will solve a lot of other problems too. Makes it alot harder for people to commit suicide and people holding the door causing a lot of delays

[@rp-bh9qi]

The root of the problem is Western media spreading racism about Asian.

[@praenubilus1980]

Because Black live matters

[@Ozymondias99]

Bingo

[@ankiit_gupta]

Like Japan there should be barriers at platforms to prevent any mishappening or accidents incidents

[@tagacale1733]

It’s New York we’re talking here. Japan= smart. New York= stupid

[@sigma_curry]

America isn’t japan.

[@jerrypeukert5732]

@@sigma_curry Parts could be, nyc=craphole

[@pjc7729]

@@tagacale1733 This reminds me of a quote I read somewhere: "In Tokyo everyone is polite, but not friendly. In New York, everyone is rude, but friendly.

[@imrytebeehyneu]

@@pjc7729 that's like in both states: in Florida, people give you the ' howdy ' gesture. In NYC, the bird 🖕 😂

[@justfornowforever418]

The same reason all NewYork city subways don't have elevators in every train station. They don't care to invest in the necessities.

[@securitybase3430]

Yes!!! and because NYS has old poor infrastructure. roads pot holes everywhere with It's Poor freeway system. I meant Park ways, buildings falling apart with every one living like animals on top of one another with no privacy, paying and Renting 2k for a 2 bed room app, trash everywhere, that why it's the 27th biggest state in the Country as we know It.

[@jerrypeukert5732]

@@securitybase3430 Oh where does the money go, possibly democrat handouts?

[@securitybase3430]

@@jerrypeukert5732 NY Gov What Ever Her Name Is. Which I Could Care Less, Can't Even Stand In The Same Room With Texas Gov Greg Abbott.

[@jerrypeukert5732]

@@securitybase3430 Why are you even bringing up Texas, but since you did why are so many ny'ers and Californians moving there

[@securitybase3430]

@@jerrypeukert5732 But You Were The One That Mentioned The Democrat ✋ 🤚 outs Smart Intelligent Guy?? And Yes I As Brown Native Person I Love Texas. So Deal With It!!! And Gov Greg Abbott A Bad Mother 🚚 🚛

[@cagrangersealninja3720]

Stop being soft on crime. That's a start

[@imrytebeehyneu]

What's this ' soft on crime ' do you speak?

[@GamesRus21]

But they can use the same metal barriers they use on the subway street station at Bowling Green. It don't have to be fancy with glass and sliding doors smh 🤦

[@Thtisha22234]

EXACTLY SMH!!

[@stevenroshni1228]

if the doors don't slide how will people get on and off the train?

[@MoldMonkey93]

The headline of, “New Push to Keep Subway Safe.” Was great wording. No pun intended?

[@otakuman9576]

Outdated subway system that's why . You go to London or Japan , china and all the train stations have safety barriers and doors near the train tracks.

[@imrytebeehyneu]

The Second Ave subway station built brand new in 2017 and they NEVER added a SPB. Why's that?

[@AD-hf1hp]

London does not have safety barriers on over 99% of stations. This is a very big misconception.

[@frankchen4229]

No. Age isn't the issue.

[@Vendorune]

simple railings would go a long way. you don't need to have doors - just place railings like you have on the stair cases where there are no entrances into the subway car and this would be over 50% of the platform. the only reason this has not been done is because we have corrupt politicians decade after decade and this idea is just too skinny to get a payoff

[@imrytebeehyneu]

@@numba1killa886 because you agree with the MTA, in which they're bullshiting... Action speaks louder than words....

[@johnlewis3891]

@@numba1killa886 It's not easy to toss someone as it is to push them. Also she could have grabbed onto the railings. And they can place the the railing so that's there's enough space for her to get back up.

[@SraTacoMal]

People would sit and lean on them.

[@RobertF-]

They should put a ton more benches and seats everywhere in all the stations so everyone can just sit down while they"re waiting for the train, and don't get up until the front of the train has passed them.

[@annag.799]

@@RobertF- The homeless would take them over and there is the issue of blocking traffic flow at some stations.

[@waynerogers6621]

I grew up in NYC and never stood at the edge of the platform and that was long before the crazies were released from the nuthouses.

[@Lyfe_on_My_Terms]

Lmfao

[@Trilogysworld]

They need to put platform Barriers smh too many people dying over there by being pushed enough is enough spend that money

[@imrytebeehyneu]

That is the title of this video

[@jonseywarder8926]

You're definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed.

[@imrytebeehyneu]

@@jonseywarder8926 hey, hey, it's his first time here on YT. Cut him some slack...

[@imrytebeehyneu]

@sd lm what do you think?

[@JCustom]

Yea even a guard rail, 3ft fence is difficult for them. Then again the Mta builds 70 elevators for 5.5 billion. It’s what happens when people don’t have a choice and there is no accountability for the Mta. Day we have a private third party audit for Mta is the day we can hope for some changes

[@SteveinSanFrancisco]

I think a more important question is how come some of these people are allowed to wander around on the system when you know darn well they did not pay....

[@jerrypeukert5732]

My cousin tells me they actually set up something similar to encampments in the subway, how's that allowed. The barriers would prevent this or make more comfortable for them, and encourage more.

[@pass_da_knoccs83]

When the most expensive subway system in the world is also the most unsafe

[@ArtIsDrawing]

"expensive"?

[@pass_da_knoccs83]

@@ArtIsDrawing no other subway system on this planet has a budget like the NYC mta

[@johngonzo9671]

I been saying that for the longest, get plastic barriers that no one can break. And it opens when the train arrives

[@user-wo7dl6tb2q]

Trust me, NYC’ers would be breaking them DAILY

[@CommonSenses101]

How did homeless people end up in the metro stations the first place? Did they buy metro tickets to get in? If not, there is a potential a security flaw. Where were all the metro police officers? Weren't they supposed to be on foot patrol? How about security cameras?

[@Kwelar]

That won’t stop people with severe mental illnesses from getting through. Anyone can be mentally ill, rich or poor.

[@christianguzman6510]

In other countries thers a cop ar the entrance of the station that way no homeless ppl can get in

[@jerrypeukert5732]

What a thought

[@qjtvaddict]

Seems like a good idea

[@NDARYBC]

There should be police present in every subway station as train approuch.

[@imrytebeehyneu]

But MTA don't have the money 24/7. THAT'S why you don't see them more often

[@SraTacoMal]

I don't think that will make a difference for issues regarding the tracks

[@stevenroshni1228]

The police were on that platform.

[@mickpratt8327]

Why do knives have a sharp end? Why aren't vehicle bumpers made of foam?

[@NickolaySheitanov]

Aah American speak again. Platforms literary exist everywhere else even in Bulgaria

[@SuperSar79]

Does are great ideas mike. Maybe you should run for president and make it possible

[@olgaperez2862]

Because it’s not as black and white as you commented. USA tends to be very reactive instead of proactive, and you’re clearly not from NYC

[@jonseywarder8926]

You're asking the wrong question. The right question should be why are there people pushing total strangers into fast moving trains. I can be more specific but I won't.

[@imrytebeehyneu]

Ask the people in prison that does that...

[@horny99845]

There a law on the books called Kendra Law named after subway victim Kendra Webdale who was murder on January 3, 1999 on the same line as Michelle Go did 23 years 6 days later Kendra Law mean if someone refused to take medication to control their mental illness they are forced to be hospitalized to get their illness under control Now did the hospital did everything they can to make sure he was not a threat to anyone? Maybe not This is were the break down take place

[@wesleypatterson827]

Why don't they have good politicians that build a good police force and justice system where criminals would be scared to hurt other people

[@imrytebeehyneu]

Criminals are smart to see if the coast is clear from law enforcements. It could be anybody: men or women.

[@wesleypatterson827]

@@imrytebeehyneu criminals aren't smart lucky maybe

[@imrytebeehyneu]

@@wesleypatterson827 if that's true, then how come they're so many?

[@wesleypatterson827]

@@imrytebeehyneu So many what?

[@imrytebeehyneu]

@@wesleypatterson827see? Like you're smart....

[@cko4608]

please do something to protect the citizens of NY city! make the BARRIERS like other civilized countries..

[@imrytebeehyneu]

Thank you.

[@VChong1991]

Dont you know? Americas a 3rd world country runned by outlaws.

[@QuarioQuario54321]

@@VChong1991 under that logic Germany is too

[@QIKWIA]

What a damn shame what happened to this woman! Something needs to be immediately done to safeguard against anymore of these senseless attacks in the future! This was such a horrible sick tragedy and it could have been avoided if more safety precautions were in place. Also, we need more transit police in the stations and riding in the cars! 🙏🏿RIP 🥀

[@lanalook9200]

Um nothing needs to be done to safeguard shit. Why was she not looking out for her own self!??!

[@QIKWIA]

@@lanalook9200 🤦🏾‍♀️Stop victim blaming. 🤷🏾‍♀️Maybe she was new to America and didnt know the immediate dangers of what she was doing? Or.. She just didnt think something like this could happen to her🤷🏾‍♀️ Or.. Maybe she just let her guard down that day, as we all do on occassion... Who knows why.🤷🏾‍♀️ She's dead. So, Lets learn from her mistakes.

[@RK-kn1ud]

You proposed solution is useless. This will not prevent random acts of violence. You could instill 100 police officers on either side of every track and it would not prevent this issue. I have proposed a solution in this comment section that will likey make this situation nearly avoidable.

[@imrytebeehyneu]

Um....... you did read on what the title is of this video, right?

[@bratty2987]

@@RK-kn1ud you should check out other places where they have them, see it for yourself. you are eliminating at least death by pushing

[@numbaoneg101]

They can bore tunnels underground but they can’t figure out how to set up a barrier? Gotta be kidding me.

[@snakeplissken6110]

That's like saying condoms prevent rape.

[@imrytebeehyneu]

But we're bums. We have mental illness. We can't help that. It's not our fault, right?

[@Forbidden-Pre-Workout]

Well I voted for Curtis Sliwa cuz he has so much experince with this. Erick Adams should hire Curtis to fix these situations.

[@jesusisking117]

Sliwa had a great plan for Rikers Island. I have yet to hear Adams plan for anything

[@Forbidden-Pre-Workout]

@@jesusisking117 he’s also a republican for affordable housing.!

[@pinkwakabeagle]

@@jesusisking117 and you won't hear it.

[@mxr_johnson]

I robbed the hell outta you in cayo perico. Cant believe your here.

[@ZFabia2010]

I wish we had him

[@brooklynsoldier187]

Bottom line is EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS and BE VIGILANT!!!!

[@iceangele14]

Not gonna lie I've always wondered that even as a kid I've seen japan England China and some other place have a barrier heck I think Amtrak has it's own so why is it taking nyc sooo long to put some kinda safety measure for that kinda think its terrifying to look at the tracks as a kid but imagine the anxiety and stress dealing with this on your normal commute to work need needs to be fixed for real this is a nightmare

[@jasoncoomer1226]

*That look when you avoid tackling the crime problem and bring up barriers...* VOTE DIFFERENT

[@nicooliver6019]

We definitely would benefit from such barriers but I get the feeling it will be quickly be vandalized/broken by said disturbed individuals. If we can ramp up the mental health services and keep violent criminals in jail and off out streets instead of being released with a slap on the wrist that would be the place to start.

[@samthepoet107]

His own sister told a reporter, who called her for comment, that her brother should be in a mental institution. The man clearly has mental problems but now he will have a place to sleep with three meals a day for the next 25 years.

[@samthepoet107]

@@verreal remember the American teenager in Singapore who was sentenced to receive cat-o-nine lashes for writing graffiti? Maybe that would work here.

[@osagiee.guobadia-secondytc4624]

I'm glad that the homeless man is arrested for pushing Michelle like that. : 0

[@nickhiscock8948]

It is possible to install half height barriers. They are common on Japanese system and on above ground stations in Singapore. These are cheaper to install and offer most of the benefits except for air-conditioning in the stations.

[@michaeljohanson9504]

Eric Adam's is soft on crime and punishment!

[@yasinali3754]

Barriers need to be on major stations

[@geraldgreen5371]

Once transit gets rid of the R46s & the R68S, FROM THE R211S ON ,THEN IT WILL BE MORE FEASIBLE for the subway where all the subway cars will be the same for platform door spacing...

[@shaktidash1305]

Because the politicians are too busy filling their coffers

[@CommonSenses101]

US MTRs are so outdated. But there is a way, build an automation barrier fence underneath on the platform. When the train is completely stopped at the station, the fence barrier is automatically removed underneath the platform. And when the train is completely departed, the fence barrier is automatically raised up to the top of the platform. This solution should work for an outdated MTR.

[@edwink1467]

Ahhahahaahaha They won’t build a simple platform barrier. You think they are building that shit? Lmaoooooo not in a million years

[@clickclack8081]

Because you don't need them if criminals aren't walking the street. Are these people really asking such moronic questions?

[@imrytebeehyneu]

You must be those people at the benches that are waiting for the right moment for any sucker to stand over the edge ..... until the train comes...

[@Brotherjoshuapichardo3263]

Platform Barriers is a must for All New York city stations. Enough of innocents dying from such dumb accidents !!

[@richietattersall2122]

The NY Subway IS investing in installing elevators in all of the stations. It CAN'T happen overnight in a system that runs 24/7 with sections that are over 100 years old. They FINALLY retired a run of cars that was built in the 60's.

[@horny99845]

We retired the wrong cars if we got rid of the 75 feet long cars we can have the platform doors

[@42luke93]

We don’t need barriers. It’s a huge waste of money and we need it spent on other things like maintenance, new trains or even elevators. Just stop talking about this idea. The subway is from the 1900’s. It just won’t work. Don’t be silly with standing so close to the tracks. Please Just stand back on the wall if there is one or middle of the platform.

[@arosenweig]

They could use barriers similar to the ones found in Tokyo Japan which go up when a train comes to a complete stop at a station. Shortly after the doors close, the barriers would drop down over the platform’s edge before a train leaves the station.

[@harukrentz435]

Lol they dont even want to build iron fence let alone sophiscated ones like that.

[@brooklyn5466]

The subway is not the bedroom for the homeless.

[@NeoTurboManiac78]

Aside from money, one major issue with installing platform barriers is that there is no uniformity in the rolling stock along the lettered lines. You have 60 and 75 foot cars running on the same tracks, thus the width between doors and the number of doors along the train will be different.

[@AzAzMusic]

actually 75 footers are slowly being phased out, so in about 10-15 years this wont be an issue

[@CommonSenses101]

There might be a solution for this. The outdated MRTs can be retrofit by implementing sensors on the trains and at each rail station. When a train is approaching the rail station, the train will automatically slow down and stop EXACTLY ON THE MARKED LOCATION of the rail. When this works, then build an automation door barrier like the one in Japan and China. This will solve the problem we are facing right now.

[@jack-of-all-trades1234]

I can't believe that they phrased the caption "new push" when the woman was literally pushed to her death.

[@peace.404]

Tacky and inappropriate AF

[@sigma_curry]

Or maybe the police should clean up all the homeless ppl on the streets. Just a thought.

[@_Wai_Wai_]

Because cities and states have no money for updated infrastructure. $770 billion a year for military industrial complex

[@evanbrad7327]

Why Does New York City Have No Bail Laws??? At least ask the right questions.

[@mghegotagun]

"New push to keep subway safe" That chiron under a picture of the latest victim was just a little tone deaf don't you think?

[@richietattersall2122]

Different series of cars have doors in different places and the length of the cars is not the same. The Lexington Ave 4/5/6 run is a classic reason, the turns in the Bronx are sharper, they can't use longer cars without rebuilding the tracks

[@qjtvaddict]

Just add the screen doors in Manhattan

[@richietattersall2122]

@@qjtvaddict My point is, IT WON'T WORK!!! It's not because of "where", it's because of the actual subway cars, the door are not in the same location on every model of cars.

[@sigma_curry]

How abt put soft bumpers on all trains.

[@kimberlysanchez5321]

I don’t care what that murderer needs, it’s useless to help this demon. May god Bless Michelle Go and her family

[@dave1370]

Maybe because you shouldn't have to expect that some crazy person is going to push someone onto the tracks.

[@imrytebeehyneu]

That's like you're waiting for the bus. Once it arrives, someone pushes you under it, just for their enjoyment....

[@randomlifts]

Always saw such barriers in Hong Kong, China, Singapore

[@leehank8693]

How about instead on having thing barriers how about getting rid of the scumbags and degenerates on the platform

[@nyhottcandy1104]

you need a fence between the train and the ledge so people dont fall on the tracks

[@imrytebeehyneu]

It's called SPB...

[@vt3140]

New York subway floor filthy dirty the office of the mayor should order to clean it regularly. Disgusting.

[@lyl3645]

Other countries already have those installed for decades! The US infrastructure is decades behind developing countries!

[@KD_SWAGGER]

No one should be standing so close to the edge for no reason. Always stand 7-10 feet away at least. Safety for all!

[@KD_SWAGGER]

@@verreal That's true, just do your best or stay at the top or bottom of the steps.

[@Jaymakavelii_]

Long overdue but worried bout hiking the fares just to end up a victim lmao

[@wesleytrout4931]

Ah yes, she wasn't murdered, she just fell.

[@imrytebeehyneu]

Suicide. Why didn't we think of that?

[@josedominguez1253]

Hey mayor start putting your people in jail their the ones doing all the crime in New York

[@staytune7904]

you do not need to install barrier doors from ground to ceiling, 5-6 feet tall can do the job, or the cheapest way and can enforce immediately is let all the train come to a complete full stop before slowly roll into the station ,

[@t21229513]

They shouldn’t need barriers.

[@LIBryda]

NYC is one of the richest cities in the world, and they don't do jack shit w their money to actually improve the city. That's why you couldn't pay me to move there.

[@CommonSenses101]

They can implement visual signs to alert passengers, keep a certain distance away from the rail on the platform, signs could be on the floor, on walls, posts. Flashing lights indicator trains Is approaching, and text displays on electronic message board.

[@smith2354]

They have those, most stations have a yellow edge to the platform extending maybe 3 feet. However that's still not enough to prevent crazies from pushing innocent passengers onto the tracks.

[@tednosaur6257]

Honestly, the subway is going to be renovated at some point, it’s just a matter of time. This world is advancing at such fast speed, especially the last twenty years, and New York should consider the safety of their people more. If you can’t renovate the subway system because of the ventilations, there’s always professionals out there who can figure something out. There’s no way New York subways will be able to hold for another few decades, it’s going to be a joke at that point. Other countries who aren’t as economically and technologically advanced have already installed barriers on train platforms. If you’re gonna renovate the subways eventually, why not do it now so New Yorkers don’t have to live in fear anymore.

[@paintriarchdave7977]

Just like the girl at the furniture store who was stabbed: pay attention to your surroundings. People have been killing each other since day 1 🤣

[@divinekirin8038]

Because all the money goes to dirty politicians

[@graffmixer]

There's a trade off to that!!! If the public wants these barriers, then prepare for Fare hikes!!! It won't be cheap to maintain and inspect them!!!

[@imrytebeehyneu]

That's bullshit. They made the Second Avenue station brand new and they couldn't add a SPB? Yeah, it's the money they want, not lives. MTA has enough money.

[@okaygoogle1582]

First order of business - CLOSE THE SUBWAY SYSTEM AFTER 2AM AND MAKE ALL HOMELESS PEOPLE LEAVE FROM PLATFORM AND TRAINS

[@rosannamiranda4620]

They should have an emergency stop button on the platforms to tell the drivers that there's somebody on the tracks driver can stop the train

[@hkraytai]

It comes down to the cost vs benefit analysis. If only several people are killed by falling into the tracks per year given a large number of riders daily the city will consider this to be acceptable risk. Also the city does not get sued if anyone gets killed. No skin off their backs.

[@qjtvaddict]

Why don’t they get sued

[@pumpkinspice7864]

Why not stand back from the platform edge and pay attention to your surrounding. There are so many crazy people out there so do the best you can to protect yourself. Sometimes I watch some people at the edge, ears plugged or playing with their phones and forgetting that they can be a victim at any given time.

[@graffmixer]

Exactly!!

[@imrytebeehyneu]

Watch your surroundings. We'll add more cops. Hell, even the bums will wait on the benches at the right moment to push suckers on the tracks, like you. It takes time so you'll won't notice.... Have a nice day....

[@pumpkinspice7864]

@@imrytebeehyneu this sucker knows she's not perfect, this sucker knows that anything can happen anywhere. This sucker reminds herself to be aware of her surroundings. So until this sucker gets pushed I will try my best to stay safe and I wish the best for you and everyone else.

[@reckless110]

I'm amazed that there are so many people that literally stand on the edge of the platform, especially when a train comes speeding into the station.

[@shawnhall9792]

A lot of the time people who have ear plugs in aren't actually listening to music they simply do that so people won't talk to them a lot of us actually do this

[@priscillagrrr4405]

"New push to keep subways safe"... Um.... Awkward phrasing???

[@meyesmetoo3192]

metal fence chest high is sufficient..Incase someone get push they'll have something to hold on to. it doesn't need to be glass closure

[@HappyRescues]

.. because the system is over 100 years old.

[@JOHNSMITH-dc6lr]

Any city that don't have these should be sued for public safety

[@saintt9838]

I literally was saying this to myself last week . And im two years new to this great city

[@violinpaganini2651]

Maybe 100 years ago . people push other people to the track was never happened . That's the reason no barriers needed .

[@kafkollectif525]

The nyc subways are disgusting and falling apart for the most part. Idk where the mta puts their money but it sure isn’t on making the subway safe in really any way at all.

[@MrJamberee]

Because only a few people a year get pushed in front of moving trains by the homeless and mentally ill. Why waste money? Besides, it’s NY, which has lots of people.

[@imrytebeehyneu]

Um, every countries have one.... except the US, not only NYC....

[@Travelingforlife]

How about putting all the b criminals in prison instead of keeping them on the streets!

[@imrytebeehyneu]

Eric Adams is working on that. If not, blame him. He promised for us to be safe, right?

[@Travelingforlife]

@@imrytebeehyneu he won't put b people bin jail. He will get killers counseling and put them back on the streets! Democrats love their criminals!

[@imrytebeehyneu]

@@Travelingforlife oh and the Pubs are innocent...... while they're drunk?

[@dimamorozov3092]

Take all criminal from the street!!

[@Spindablok]

That's like saying get rid of cigarettes or liquor. It will never happen.

[@dimamorozov3092]

@@Spindablok With this government yes it's not

[@moniqueengleman873]

Love Natalie , the anchor. Such a beautiful person.

[@ninjapirate123]

Homeless people needs to stop going inside subway stations

[@lordquastheonly]

Privatization of the mta will solve all the issues with the mta

[@ICNiJuShi]

Are they serious with that headline though? Some morbid mind decided on "new push"

[@horny99845]

But the fact are as follows 23 years 6 days from Kendra Webdale to other push to the train until Michelle Go we haven’t learn or anything to the subways safe

[@edrepresentin]

MTA is a joke