Why Don't these States Have MAJOR Sports?

[@hokiemonproductions9558]

As a Virginian, I feel that when it comes to sports Norfolk is the feeder city to DC. If you are looking for a closer experience you go see the Admirals (Hockey feeder to Capitals) or Tides (baseball feeder to Orioles). If you want to see the main attractions, go up north and stomach the prices

[@maverickmissile801]

Hello fellow Virginian !

[@angrysammich5762]

Yeah, same with Richmond, it’s mostly DC sports fans in that area. I think that’s the real reason there hasn’t been many major leagues looking to that area, a lot of people there have their fandom settled.

[@BallinLikeMike23]

Norfolk Tide/admirals is all we got 😅

[@cpcva724]

There was the Virginia Squires back in the old Aba. However there was attendance problems so much so that their home games were divided between Norfolk Richmond and Roanoke.

[@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza]

@@angrysammich5762 who do we know in sports from there, Mickie James?

[@ColeNollavook]

The NHL nearly put an expansion team in Hampton Roads, Virginia but decided against it once the Whalers moved to Carolina. NHL won big by being the first team to Vegas and I wonder how it would’ve fared if they’d been first to Virginia.

[@_joestop5]

I remember they were going to call it the Rhinos. They also tried to get the Montreal Expos before they became the Washington Nationals.

[@Nbaspam0000]

“ How do they find all the poor people for Brett farce to steal from “😂😂😂😂😂

[@jayayebee]

This pains me, as a Mississippi native. I've been waiting for the Brett Favre stories to blow up since last year. Fuck that guy.

[@rstreet5537]

I love it

[@deemariedubois4916]

The Farve comments were my favorite!!

[@AJ42K]

Brett FAV-RE

[@csnide6702]

@@AJ42K yup ---- You just KNOW some GOMER in his family just started saying it wrong 3 generations back and it stuck......

[@vincehughes5453]

South Carolina did actually host the Carolina Panthers for their first season in the NFL. Omaha was also a part-time home for the Sacramento Kings for several years in the 1970s.

[@coffeyallday]

When the Hornets were looking to leave Charlotte in the early 00s, Louisville was their first choice, but since Pitino and former AD Tom Jurich didn't support it, they moved on to their 2nd choice in New Orleans. I think Louisville will wind up with an MLS team eventually though. They have a women's team in the NWSL and their men's pro team has been a perineal contender. Plus they've got a pretty nice soccer specific stadium

[@slimmyhendrix94]

Perennial lol

[@coffeyallday]

@@slimmyhendrix94 Got screwed on autocorrect. I knew it didn't look right but hit send anyway

[@JGHzilla]

Yeah, if there are 2 colleges that have a strong rivalry that makes gangbuster money, they will do something they rarely do and work together to kill any deal for a big league team (especially football and basketball)

[@JGHzilla]

Heck, the only reasons OKC Thunder happened without Oklahoma and Oklahoma State making a fuss was 1) they are both football schools, 2) the owner is from that area, and 3) the cat was out of the bag when the Hornets had to move there due to Katrina and the fans let their voices be heard by supporting them with money in tickets and merchandise

[@syaieya]

If we had relegation, both Lou City and Sacramento FC would both be going head to head with the MLS. Despite the former being the former USL version of Orlando. But thanks to how the expansion has worked I don't see Kentucky getting anything after both Cincinnati and Nashville got dibs first and put the extended market in a vice and St Louis about to bind it from the other side.

[@jhawk889]

As an Iowan, the closest I could see us to getting a professional team would be in the MLS, as Des Moines' current soccer team is moving up to the second tier in the pyramid in 2024. It would be really nice having a team, but not having a team gives you options to support teams as well

[@Hiei2k7]

There just isn't the corporate money to support a team in suites and such. The Wells Fargo Arena is juuust big enough for NBA.

[@GD1082]

Hey, you had the Iowa Barnstormers briefly and Kurt Warner!

[@alogsdino5311]

@@GD1082 we still have the Barnstormers, plus a few minor league teams for the NBA, MLB and NHL. Plus we’re getting a new stadium for our Soccer team. It’s a good time to be into sports in Des Moines.

[@NorcalValleyRailfan]

thats USL btw not MLS, Iowa will have a professional soccer team but just in the 2nd division

[@iowadarkride]

Huh? No mention of Iowa’s former NBA team and the still standing Hippodrome? We have a lot of successful minor league football, basketball, baseball, soccer, and hockey teams. As much as it annoys me, Iowans are nuts about football and basketball and a pro team would thrive here

[@OrtaPottyProd]

From montana, it does suck that we understandably don't have a pro team but we do love our college teams Montana and Montana State, the brawl of the wild is huge here and pretty much settles all of the bragging rights for each fanbase.

[@bjukesisking3318]

I have to agree it really is because we have college football to fill the void

[@arcticphoenix2789]

I know is not pro of even FBS football, but hey they are two of the best FCS programs. That it still something.

[@otaviofrnazario]

@@arcticphoenix2789 without mentioning two nice stadiums, especially with the view of the mountains at Washington-Grizzly

[@oddyoda6443]

I used to live in Montana, and now live in Iowa, which also doesn't have top level sports teams, and I don't watch college sports, but I would always watch Montana State's games, as an MSU fan.

[@highway2heaven91]

Don’t forget, you guys are pretty close to the Flames in Calgary.

[@codenamelarry6518]

Being born and raised in Northern Virginia, going to see a major sports team was never a difficult task as DC was 30 minutes away (if the stand still traffic decided to take the day off that day). Even a day trip up to Baltimore or Philly was something we did quite often. I guess where I grew up in Virginia was still in such close proximity to big East Coast sports markets that I never realized that a theoretical move to Fair Oaks for the Nationals or Loudon for the Commies would’ve been the first major sports team in VA.

[@marcodipietro813]

I'm from just on the other side of the river and yeah 495 is hell

[@marcodipietro813]

Imagine if there was actually a reason to go to Commies games

[@blackfox9743]

Thats because quite literally everything is in northern

[@lexismith8325]

Same here, I live in Northern VA (Loudoun) and regularly go to Caps and Nats games. Commies though are rough… they could’ve put FedEx literally anywhere else.

[@djpoison2846]

Not in Hampton Roads everything 3hrs away. DC and Raleigh

[@maverickmissile801]

Yea, as a VA native, it's quite disappointing not having a major sports team, but that gives us the choice of sports teams!

[@mrterp04]

Well ya came close with the Hampton Roads Rhinos

[@kevinramsey417]

It's worse than that, our local NFL teams are the Panthers and the Commanders.

[@TheJudoJoker]

@@kevinramsey417 remember when the Caps and Nationals were good? Those were good days for VA :)

[@TonyAnimatesStuff]

@@TheJudoJoker exactly

[@flyboyking4114]

Norfolk has lost 2 minor leauge hockey teams with a 3rd dropping from the AHL to the ECHL. Not to mention the Virgina Squires the old ABA team that only lasted 6 years and had 8 different venues spread between Richmond and the 757 area code.

[@jackmatson6634]

Coming from a Minnesota Gopher fan who hates Iowa, one of the best football traditions that almost made me cry 1st time being there. Was when @iowa everyone stopped where they were doing in the 3rd quarter, and started waving to the kids fighting cancer in the hospital. You see there faces and see the excitement, if not one of the best traditions in football. It’s bigger then a game

[@hint0122]

As a lifetime gophers fan, I love that too

[@Jbourdeau1]

Fun fact with mississippi, they use to have a ECHL team called the SeaWolves that won the title but due to katrina, the team changed their name before being disbanded

[@mistertaz94]

Thats genuinely upsetting and sad. Hope that they return to y'all one day.

[@byff2323]

I saw them play in ‘96. Fun times.

[@Jbourdeau1]

@@byff2323 same. Game 7 double overtime at the colliseum against the richmand renegades.

[@59cado]

@@mistertaz94 I think they just started back up in a lower league this year. Don't know if they are inthe same city, but the Mississippi Sea Wolves are playing in the FPHL this year

[@someperson3883]

It is easy. Proximity to New Orleans

[@chrisguardiano6143]

Fun Fact about pro sports in Hawaii: There were actually two teams that called Hawaii home in the 70's. The first was The Hawaiians of the awful World Football League who lasted the two years the league existed from 1974-75. Then the North American Soccer League (basically the 70's version of MLS but not sanctioned by FIFA) moved the San Antonio franchise to Hawaii for the 1977 season. The team struggled both on the pitch & attendance wise & also had to deal with very high travel costs for away games. Not surprisingly after the season ended, the team was relocated to Tulsa to become the Roughnecks where they remained (and even won the league title in 1983) until the league went out of business after the 1984 season.

[@Aviator43]

The Nationals almost had their stadium built in Arlington, Virginia. And the way you described NOVA as a "shitpile of shit traffic and overpriced real estate" could not be truer Edit: For context I’m from that area. I love it there but it’s flaws are real bad

[@andrewb9441]

C’mon Alexandria is a nice city.

[@ademirsegura6307]

Same with DC United with the Prince George’s County proposal

[@otaviofrnazario]

Bald lives in NOVA as well

[@FivePointsVids]

The spot they picked would have RUINED va. Right near the Wilson Bridge? Oh hell no lol

[@PhantomThiefOfSports]

"You know, the traffic is actually damn good" - Dan Snyder, probably

[@patrickgipson285]

As a Kentuckian, I really wish we had a professional sports team. Louisville has a USL team that has been consistently successful since they started in 2014 and have tons of supporters. We’re home to the Louisville Slugger Museum and Triple A team for the Reds, as well as you mentioned former ABA Colonels and once upon a time had a pre-merger NFL team. Also don’t forget our former ECHL Riverfrogs

[@christhompson7485]

I really think an NBA team in Louisville is a no brainer, as the infrastructure is already there and the only other team near are the Pacers and they kinda suck.

[@I1sAMeMarlo]

I would love Louisville to have an NFL team but NBA seems more realistic

[@mnmfreak502]

I'd love to see an nba or nhl team in Cincinnati. NHL is extremely unlikely considering Columbus has a team and not too far south Nashville has a team. But then again MLS came to Cincinnati and they've been killing it drawing in fans. The Sacramento kings used to be in Cincinnati as the Royals. I'd love to have them back or any team. If they build a new arena I'd love to see another pro team in there.

[@patrickgipson285]

@@mnmfreak502 not opposed to cincy getting another team. Seeing how passionate those bengals and Cincy FC fans are is a good sign. In regards to Louisville, a WNBA team would be nice as well. Our women’s collegiate team draws a good passionate crowd.

[@cullenanderson173]

Being in Virginia my whole life has been so interesting from a sports standpoint because it’s shown that yeah, there’s no real interest in having a local team from anyone but I think that has a lot to do with the fact that “America’s Team” really, REALLY sunk its nails in here somehow. Cowboys fans are everywhere, sure, but they are EVERYWHERE in Virginia. Which is weird because we’re so close in proximity to every NFC East squad except Dallas! Also a lot of steelers fans I’ve noticed if you’re from the western side of the state. It seems like the hole of not having a pro team was just filled with whatever dynasties were popular when our parents and grandparents grew up. Although after living in Richmond I truly don’t see how that city could support a football team. I mean VCU can’t even get one for pete’s sake.

[@cinema_yo]

Well for Steelers at least, most fans left Pittsburg for jobs back in the day then they have kids on so on that’s why they have fans everywhere.

[@FivePointsVids]

Remember VCU is banned from having one! An alumni gave millions to not have one!

[@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza]

@@FivePointsVids wait, you're from there, what happened?

[@cullenanderson173]

@@FivePointsVids Ah! I wasn’t familiar with that actually. But in researching it I learned (unrelated) that Brock Osweiler committed to VCU Rams basketball before playing football at ASU instead.

[@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza]

@@cullenanderson173 now imagine if he went there and then went to the CFL

[@RobertButler]

As a native to Northern Virginia, I'm not sure I have ever heard a more accurate description of the region than at the @9:35 mark. Well done.

[@FivePointsVids]

Takes an ex one to know one 🙃

[@lacydoe]

You know it’s tuff when folks live in Richmond and commute to nva…..

[@briantan3357]

ex nova here as well, nailed it!! i moved to houston so i'm very ingrained in the sports culture there

[@wokkdied]

fuck northern virginia, we in the south dont claim yall, southern va is where most the ppl are anyways

[@M42-Orion-Nebula]

"Northern Virginia is great" - Another Northern Virginian

[@catholicactionbibleonlyist1813]

After moving to Kansas City, the Royals renamed themselves the Kings to avoid confusion with the Royals baseball team. Now dubbed the Kansas City-Omaha Kings, the team split its home games between the 7,316-seat Municipal Auditorium in Kansas City and the 9,300-seat Omaha Civic Auditorium. for me it goes back in the days of Encarta

[@JStorm13]

That sounds like the rays bad wet dream

[@jamesbednar8625]

I remember the STROMCHASERS and thought that was an awesome name. What ever happened to them?????

[@petercena9497]

Kansas City at one time had all four major sports, but the NHL Scouts lasted only a couple of seasons before moving to Denver and then finally New Jersey.

[@jordanjohnson9866]

Nah. Not Now dubbed the Kansas City-Omaha Kings. /

[@csnide6702]

@@jordanjohnson9866 consider the source..... they are OBVIOUSLY CATHOLIC... ! 🤣😂😅😆😁

[@SN1PERx64]

This was mentioned under the fact that some of the states had college football, but there are other minor sports that are carried well in quite a few of the states that do not have major sports teams. Some not only have college football, but motorsports, horse racing, and roadeos which are attended well in those areas.

[@weabootrash5891]

Wyoming has all of those in spades, especially the rodeos! Basically everyone where I live knows how to ride a horse, and it isn’t hard to find someone who knows a rodeo rider. It’s not a massive market, but it’s a sport that basically everybody here can enjoy or participate in

[@NR_88]

Delaware is a good example of that. No big teams but they got minor league baseball, FCS football, and nascar. And you’re close enough to other cities like Philadelphia and Baltimore to be fans of them.

[@atusernumberone]

Yep. Alabama not only has Alabama and Auburn, it also has multiple other high-level programs (UAB;South Alabama;North Alabama). In addition to 3 Minor League Baseball teams, a Pro soccer (USLC) team, a NBA G-League team, horse racing, bike racing, NASCAR racing, and a low level hockey team. Plus it’s surrounded by states with major teams such as Tennessee, Georgia, Louisiana, and Florida.

[@mackenzie1555]

Lived in Kansas my whole life, born and raised about an hour from the city. If I had a dollar for every single time somebody has told me I can’t be a Chiefs/Royals fan bc they’re in KCMO and not KCK I’d have enough money to buy both teams 🙄

[@highway2heaven91]

Kansas City area fans seem to be pretty united when it comes to pro sports but divided when it comes to college sports.

[@ZiggyZou]

Yeah Kansas doesn’t have a major city tho. Missouri has Chiefs, Royals, Blues and Cardinals. Kansas is just such a small state. Johnson county is nice, but that’s about it tho. KCK isn’t the real Kansas City dawg

[@mackenzie1555]

@@ZiggyZou Wichita has 400k people. There’s actually talk of moving the Chiefs there (although personally I think that’d be stupid). It’s the biggest city in the state though. We have 3 million people and we’re the 10th biggest state in the country. 10 out of 50 is pretty good on terms of size. But our college sports scene is pretty amazing. Kansas does suck but we could suck a whole lot more. Though what I was saying was that the amount of times I’ve heard I can’t be a chiefs fan bc they’re not in Kansas is dumb. Kansas chiefs fans are way more passionate, Although the further out west you go in the state the more Broncos fans there are. Most of the players live on the Kansas side too. That would be like somebody telling someone who lives in Connecticut or Rhode Island that they can’t be a Patriots fan because the patriots play in Massachusetts. Or it would be like somebody telling a New Yorker that they can’t be a Giants or Jets fan because both teams actually play in New Jersey. You can be a fan of whoever you want no matter where you live.

[@chiefs4xsbchamps161]

We have Sporting KC in Kansas... but yes the Chiefs and Royals are Kansas teams as well.

[@igeekjsc6727]

I live on border of WV and VA. Your comedic remarks on those states had me dying laughing. Love it !

[@sdeepj]

There was once a group trying to bring the NHL to Norfolk, VA, they even had a name and logo: Hampton Roads Rhinos.

[@JamesSmith-uc8tk]

As I recall, it was the then owner of the Charlotte Hornets. I think part of the plan was to somehow expand Scope. As a kid during that time, even I knew it would never happen. But man, did he have the sportscasters in town losing their minds.

[@Tubeite]

Providence, Rhode Island was also home to a professional football team also called the Providence Steam Roller/s that existed independently from 1916-1924 and then as a member of the NFL from 1925 until disbanding in 1933. They also won an NFL championship in 1928. Hawaii has also had a short lived pro football team. The Hawaiians (yes, that was their name) played two seasons in the World Football League in 1974/75.

[@CatholicTraditional]

And the team formerly known as the Redskins (named after their first coach, Lone Star Dietz) began play at Fenway Park in 1932.

[@kourii]

Don't forget about the Providence Steamrollers in basketball and the Providence Grays in baseball EDIT: oh he mentioned the Steamrollers. That's what I get for commenting before finishing the video

[@wesleyhenderson2467]

Hawaii's very confusing for conferences but this is a list for them in their conference affiliations: Big West (primary), Mountain West (football), Mountain Pacific Sports Federation (women's indoor track & field, swimming & diving) and PCCSC (sailing).

[@JohnZoni]

A little surprised you didn't mention that Virginia, like Kentucky, once had an ABA team (the Squires), but overall, very solid as always, FPV.

[@russs7574]

I live in Pittsburgh, and am old enough to remember the Squires. In the early 70's I used to go watch our god-awful Pittsburgh Condors, and when the Squires came to town, they brought Dr. J. with them...at least for a couple years.

[@jmad627]

My dad took me to two Squires games at Hampton Roads coliseum in 72. Loved the Squires.

[@MrWaifuTaker]

4:26 Funny that you mention it, since in Blitz: The League II there's deadass a football team named the Cleveland Steamers, who were the San Diego Cyclones in the first game before they went bankrupt.

[@FelipeYoshioCordeirodeSouza]

Poor San Diego, they even lost 2 of them to goddamn LA

[@zacharyspring9271]

The Brett Favre jokes do not get old. 🤣

[@FivePointsVids]

Its my new 28-3

[@big_dee33]

yea they do

[@alexleonard3561]

Birmingham is an interesting case - it had a CFL team back in the day (the Barracudas). That was a weird chapter in Canadian football.

[@haroldrandall7942]

Healthsouth was extreming close to buying the vikings and moving them to birmingham back in the day

[@clottadams5028]

Also had/has a USFL team (Stallions).

[@RyanPlays74]

They also used to have a WHA team the Birmingham Bulls which were professional? kind of

[@JB09712]

@@RyanPlays74 we still have the bulls they just play in the sphl. It does suck knowing that our love of college football is in some way contributing to not having a pro team. The city could definitely support a team in the near future but whether we get one or not is still up in the air

[@JohnZoni]

Birmingham has been a perennial destination for teams in "rival" football leagues - WFL, both USFLs, WLAF, CFL, XFL 1.0 & AAF. 🏈

[@schrobilgens]

Fun fact. Iowa was basically was home to two of the original NBA teams. The Waterloo Hawkeyes disbanded after a couple years and the Quad City hawks, although they played in Illinois were mostly in the Davenport, Iowa metro. They eventually became the Atlanta Hawks and were coached by Red Auerbach at one point.

[@mexicanmamba1342]

I always knew about the Quad Cities one since I’m from there but didn’t know about Waterloo!

[@michaelhartley7410]

Hawaii is in the Mountain West Conference, not the WAC. The WAC doesn't play football anymore.

[@ReinSouls]

Hawai'i is in the Big West for all other sports. But point stands

[@gregsells8549]

The WAC has brought back football, but at the FCS level.

[@ep_got_the_sauce]

Wow you tried to sound smart and are completely wrong. Hold this L.

[@PCSPounder]

@@gregsells8549 And the over/under for the WAC keeping football might be 8 years, given how C-USA grabbed Sam Houston and two other schools already retreated to the Southland.

[@rpsnider85]

I live in Nova (Northern VA), and growing up we had the [name redacted] and the Orioles as the teams closest to us. Neither actually in VA but close enough that going to the games wasn't much of a hassle. That said, it's always been weird that we don't have a team. We are one of the richest states in the country by GDP and yet there's no professional teams. Plenty of minor league action, and those feed into the big leagues but still.

[@eeik5150]

You are one of my all time favorite KZbinrs. Your sense of humor has me trying to not wake my family with laughing too hard.

[@SaadHaque72]

As a foreigner who loves American sport, I love these videos.

[@realalbertan]

Next door to Montana we have 2 NHL teams in Alberta 🇨🇦. Calgary has more people than Montana.

[@thegentlemanmuncho]

As a SC native I will say it’s pretty nice having the ECHL stingrays in the area, hockey games are always fun to go to here and I wish we had a major team

[@jimmy3people0]

it baffles me the Stingrays aren't an AHL team by now with how successful they've been for so long

[@garrett1488]

I mean the Riverdog games are almost always packed too! Very entertaining team

[@highway2heaven91]

You’re kinda close to the Hurricanes.

[@ChrisBl33p]

@@highway2heaven91 depends on where you are in SC. Though I think an NHL team is out of the question, we could get an NBA team, but I think it'd have to be in Columbia. Though Charleston is the more famous city, the infrastructure is shit.

[@highway2heaven91]

@@ChrisBl33p If you’re in Northern SC, it won’t be too long but Southern SC would probably be a bit too far. As for the NBA, you’ve literally got Charlotte on your doorstep. All of the SC portion of its metro is already served by a team. Most of the rest of SC isn’t that far from Charlotte either. Greenville also isn’t that far from Atlanta.

[@JJWestmoreland84]

You should do this video again, but explaining why certain states or cities don't have certain professional sports teams. For example, why doesn't St. Louis have an NBA team or why doesn't Cleveland have a hockey team?

[@FivePointsVids]

Thats not bad

[@americanwalmarts3565]

@@FivePointsVids why doesn't Cincinnati get an NBA team

[@tobyradloff]

@@americanwalmarts3565 Cincinnati had the Royals, which, I think, moved to Kansas City when the Cavaliers started playing in Cleveland, in the fall of 1970. Also, Pittsburgh does not have an NBA team.

[@tobyradloff]

Cleveland had a short-lived NHL team, the Cleveland Barons (named after the former AHL team), that played only 3 seasons (1976 to 1978), before the team merged with the Minnesota North Stars. After that move, Cleveland did not have any professional hockey team until the IHL Cleveland Lumberjacks started playing in the early 1990's. Cleveland previously had the AHL Barons and the WHA Crusaders. After the Lumberjacks, there was another AHL Barons team, which was later renamed the Lake Erie/Cleveland Monsters.

[@ElByrto]

Doesn't Cleveland have the Lake Erie Monsters as a team in the AHL?

[@brandonwasemiller8713]

would be a cool idea if you did a video on old sports teams coming back. The Coyotes are a joke and I would love to see the Whalers or Nordiques come back. A video about situations like these is something I would watch.

[@Qball42]

OK, but, as a SLC resident, I'm hoping the Coyotes get moved into townn so they can be the Utah Yotes. I'd love to see the Nordiques come back too.

[@Gojo_TheCreator]

The hurricanes are good

[@brandonwasemiller8713]

@@Gojo_TheCreator nothing to do with Hurricanes Coyotes relocate was my point

[@Gojo_TheCreator]

@@brandonwasemiller8713 whalers but you were talking bout Arizona right

[@brandonwasemiller8713]

@@Gojo_TheCreator yes the hurricanes were the Whalers before I know. I just think Arizona should be relocated and instead of making a whole new team, bring back an old one like they did with the Winnipeg Jets

[@205rlg6]

Spot on about here in Alabama. We'll get pro football eventually, but it's going to be another 8+ years before there's truly a chance. We have G-League Basketball, USFL Football, Minor League Baseball & Minor League Hockey for the moment.

[@mcj88]

2:40 - Back in the day Honolulu had a AAA baseball team, the Hawaii Islanders, from 1961 until 1987, and to accommodate them the Pacific Coast League had to draw up a unique schedule: according to Baseball Reference, initially the Islanders would play two 4-game and two 7-game series' against each team, one at home and one on the road, and then as the league expanded later on the setup was simplified to where the Islanders would exclusively play 8-game series'. They found some on-field success, winning the PCL title in 1975 and 1976, but financial issues stemming from poor stadium situations (their original home, Honolulu Stadium, was _wooden_ and when Aloha Stadium (which is multi-purpose, to my own initial shock) opened in 1976, the team didn't have full control of the park, leading to a 1976 forfeit when management shut off the lights to protest the use of metal spikes on the turf field) led to them moving to Colorado Springs, on the mainland, in 1988.

[@DelmarToad]

Great video, especially the final part about NoVA! 😂 s-show traffic, overpriced real estate, fake city lol!!

[@Horus_the_Lupercal]

At first I thought Utah would be here. Then I remember we have the Jazz. And then I remembered we have a professional Basketball team. Really not sure how I forget about the Jazz so often.

[@davidcopeland5450]

Also Real Salt Lake for MLS

[@rnalonto]

@@davidcopeland5450: ...and the Utah Warriors in MLR.

[@MPHswayze]

For some reason a lot of Mormons don't relate to the Jazz

[@ZzShy]

I wouldn't be surprised if in the future Utah gets another team of some sort, Salt Lake City is one of the fastest growing cities in the country and the suburbs in the valley are generally some of the most coveted real estate locations in the US, tons of people leaving the West coast funnel into Utah for its central location in the western US and its fast growing tech industry.

[@EthanNeal]

@@MPHswayze That's a lie if I've ever heard one. There's tons of LDS Jazz fans, even outside of Utah. I'm not a fan of basketball, but I've seen more than my fair share of Jazz merch by association.

[@S1apShoes]

Yay! South Carolina mentioned! 🥳🎉 Also, the fact that Albuquerque doesn't have any major league team is crazy. It's a pretty big city, the 32nd largest city in the US, it's a mile above sea level, creating a challenge for visitors, and its college programs suck, so its ripe for someone to come in and give all those people something to cheer for. Plus Santa Fe is less than an hour away and they have a rail line that runs straight into the heart of both cities. It's far enough away from Phoenix to feel unique, and it's kind of the perfect spot for a new team to wiggle its way into a league.

[@YaowBucketHEAD]

Albuquerque is dirt poor. I haven't lived there in 7 years now, but I wonder if the Duke City Gladiators are doing that well. Semi-Pro teams that popped up there over the years (Scorpions, Thunderbirds, Stars, GECKOS 😄) seemed to fold within 5 years. Maybe not the Scorpions. But sadly they folded too.

[@UserName-ts3sp]

city populations can lie. fresno is bigger than atlanta by city population, but metro area is nowhere near that

[@fionam3554]

The altitude hurts you. The old PCL baseball team was known for inflated batting stats. Denver is a much bigger city and was a proven sports town, so they were willing to have one outlier for stats with the Rockies, but I bet they wish that stadium was closer to sea level.

[@chocolatechipslime]

Albuquerque is too isolated, small metro area, not enough big name companies and not enough money in the city. New Mexico as a whole state has a smaller population than metro Kansas City alone

[@PCSPounder]

Albuquerque was kicking around building a new stadium for New Mexico United before the pandemic hit. United is still one of the top two USL Championship draws. If I had my druthers, I’d have MLS take a chance on that market… or, really, institute pro-rel anyway. It would be the MLS equivalent to Jacksonville, Winnipeg, Utah (sort of, I know the SLC market keeps growing), or (since MLB is especially market size-dependent) Cincinnati.

[@dilly70533]

Rhode Island actually once had a NFL and MLB team. The Providence Steam Rollers were in the NFL from 1924 to 1931 winning a NFL Championship in 1928. The Providence Grays we're a MLB team from 1878-1885 winning pennants in 1879 and 1884 while winning a pre-World Series.

[@CatholicTraditional]

Up Rte. 146, Worcester, the new home of the AAA Red Sox, had an N.L. team from 1878-‘82 before it folded. J. Lee Richmond pitched the first perfect game in 1880. The team was replaced by the Phillies indirectly.

[@Snyder_The_Goat]

As someone who lives close to St.Louis it is sad that they don't have a NFL team anymore, thanks Kronke.

[@Patrick61804]

At least you get an MLS team next season

[@carlfromtheoc1788]

They never did have their own NFL team. The Cardinals moved there from Chicago. But don't feel bad, the only NFL team to originate in L.A. was the Chargers, the Rams began in Cleveland.

[@kpowers]

Well looks like the XFL is interested in St.Louis

[@markcornish2519]

But he used to brag he was a native of Missouri, and wanted to keep the rams there, f ing liar!

[@lukerandle7752]

Idaho does have an ECHL team in the Steelheads - which almost became an AHL team a year or two ago. Also Boise’s baseball stadium isn’t up to Single-A standards which is why the Hawks aren’t affiliated anymore.

[@Thederanged1]

Yeah the Boise Hawks play in the Pioneer League which is independent but is considered an MLB Partner League. You also forgot the Idaho Falls Chukars too 😁.

[@brandonblanco8379]

@@Thederanged1 maybe Boise could get a AAA team eventually through relocation or expansion, but Boise would have to build a new ballpark

[@dakotalynde1913]

With the way Boise is growing that won't be very hard to do

[@andydonovan1209]

Fun fact: The Panthers actually played at Clemson Memorial Stadium for their first season

[@bigmuthafooka]

Another fun fact, they wanted to play them in Willams Brice but it was the mayor or the university said no, which I will never understand

[@jtcward6]

You’ve got to be from Virginia with the accuracy and detail you provided, I live in NOVA and you’ve described my life.

[@FivePointsVids]

Grew up in Springfield :)

[@jtcward6]

@@FivePointsVids Nice, right down the street from me. Live in Fairfax!

[@rstreet5537]

And sitting in traffic

[@Niklavan48]

As someone from South Carolina, I would love a major sports team in Charleston. I feel like any of the teams in Charlotte or Atlanta are not viable options for the Lowcountry of South Carolina. Charleston has a minor league soccer and baseball and has hosted a major tennis and golf tournaments. It also has a decent size population that is growing and should have enough money to support a team too

[@jacksauce]

As someone from Columbia I agree. We’re also in such a weird position for all of this being jammed right in between two major cities in Charlotte and Atlanta. Charleston would make the most sense because it’s the most separate from those two markets

[@alexanderproulx382]

Growing up in Northern Virginia made me partial to the teams in DC but since my family was from New Hampshire, I just naturally became a fan of all the Boston/New England teams.

[@davisvoelzke8011]

Nova is less Virginian than kectucky

[@manuelgibbons5903]

Bro I can’t “oh boy another punt” that shit sent me 😂😂😂

[@mitchcolburn1216]

We do have a AA team in the Travelers though. I got to see Mike Trout play in person.

[@theugobosschannel8466]

In Connecticut, anyone who lives South of New Britain-Middletown line is a NY Sports fan. People who live North of the New Britain-Middletown are Boston Sports fan.

[@Hahlen]

Alaska needs an NHL team

[@WolfHunner]

Surprised they don’t after all these years

[@highway2heaven91]

It does, along with Wisconsin.

[@rushrush1209]

Still too far away geographically from cities in Canada and other American cities.

[@dakotalynde1913]

They had an ECHL team but I think they folded or relocated. Which is sad because their rivalry with Idaho was legendary

[@zachariahshort6546]

Finally! My love of geography and sports condensed into a ten min vid! Thx, @5Points!

[@christiangrantz6906]

As a Richmonder, i will support any video that shits on NoVA

[@FivePointsVids]

🤝

[@cedricbelleblazerfan]

Hawaii doesn’t play in the WAC , they play in the MWC. WAC doesn’t exist in FBS anymore.

[@sstorey79]

Kentucky pretty much has Cincinnati as it’s professional teams. The Kentucky suburbs of the city area the third most popular area in the state.

[@davidr4218]

As someone who grew up in Louisville, I remember going to a few Bengals and Reds games as a kid. Back in the day, for the Bengals games my dad would actually park in Kentucky and we would walk across the bridge to see the Bengals on some of the coldest winter days. This was early 90s, soooooo walking in the dead of winter to watch the Bengals get destroyed was less of a fun dad/sons day and more of punishment for breaking one of his tools day. Good times.

[@kimyona9746]

The only thing Kentucky will ever get is a basketball team.

[@ep_got_the_sauce]

Which city, which suburbs? And no Cincinnati belongs to Ohio. Way to sound stupid af.

[@nolan4826]

Kentucky could use a basketball team in Louisville. We already got the reds and bengals.

[@kimyona9746]

@@nolan4826 it must be the colonels. Or move the mavericks there or something.

[@vjbk1587]

I think Hawaii is in the Mountain West Conference now but it's all good. Loved the commentary, funny as hell!!!

[@dafreedomtiger7652]

I do think Alabama would be a good candidate for an NFL if they were to ever have an expansion, good middle spot between the Titans, Saint, Falcons, just as long as there's never a home game following the Iron Bowl

[@ep_got_the_sauce]

Because your state is broke af and nobody cares about Alabama. Only reason people know y'all exist is because of Nascar and college football.

[@andrewneese6484]

I can definitely see Birmingham getting a team someday.

[@Btt741]

Alabama doesn’t have the population nor the disposable income to support a pro team.

[@ericalbright4943]

Alabama would be the perfect place.

[@dylanrobertson9026]

As a Nebraskan from lincoln we still technically sell out memorial stadium but Omaha would definitely be more viable for a major sports team as it’s over double the size of lincoln and is larger than some cities that have major sports teams however Lincoln definitely does have the better infrastructure to host a major sports team

[@TaxinGigs]

I could see Omaha getting an MLB team eventually.

[@dylanrobertson9026]

@@TaxinGigs MLB is about the only thing I could see because of the college World Series being hosted in Omaha

[@lol88133]

South Carolina actually did have a pro team for one year- the Panthers played in Clemson's stadium in their inaugural season.

[@ep_got_the_sauce]

That's not having a team they just didn't have their stadium finished yet.

[@lol88133]

@@ep_got_the_sauce ...but it still counts.

[@bryanalan14]

Fun fact: one of the proposal sites for the stadium back then was near carowinds which would had the 50yd line split btw sc &nc… too bad that never happened, but imagine that

[@kevinogill6726]

I know that as a New Jersey native the New York Giants moved their offices and stadium to New Jersey in the mid-1970s and intended to be the New Jersey Giants but the NFL considered that to be an "expansion" team too close to the Jets so they wouldn't alow the name change.

[@g.williams2047]

As a Louisvillian, we are certainly going to get a MLS team soon. We have an amazing stadium for it that it only 2 years old.

[@rstreet5537]

Imagine 5 points trying to say that in the video

[@g.williams2047]

@@rstreet5537 I would hurt myself listening to him try and pronounce that lol

[@jasongerber6972]

Honestly as a NOVA lad I love watching these videos as I sense your bias from previous time living here

[@austin8591]

As a South Carolinian If we want a pro team like you said we have Clemson and the panthers, hornets and braves are close enough

[@JonnyInTheRVA]

An NHL hockey team in Richmond, Virginia would do very well. Richmond is always top-ranked in NHL viewership. We have a new arena being built just north of the city right off I-95. I've attended many games in Raliegh as a NY Rangers fan and the NYR faithful always outshow the Canes fans. If Raliegh can have an NHL team we should too. I don't think NBA, MLB, or NFL are viable options but NHL would thrive.

[@pagsz]

Providence also had an NFL team (also named Steamrollers) that won the title in 1928; the last title won by a team no longer in the league. It also had a National League team in the 1880's that won two titles.

[@zacharyphillips8910]

You hit the nail right on the head with NOVAs traffic problems and overpriced real estate. Plus being from RVA I can tell you that it’s actually a huge mix of all fans from all sports myself being a Jaguars Flyers Orioles and Raptors fan lol

[@b.d.cooper8671]

Virginia also has a huge presence with NASCAR tracks that would take fans away from a professional sporting event, as the state is home to Martinsville as well as Richmond, and Bristol isn't far away in northeastern TN.

[@757CitiesReppa]

😂😂😂How can you believe that?

[@b.d.cooper8671]

@@757CitiesReppa Back before the stupidity destroyed the sport, those tracks were always crowded to the brim with fans in the infield and the stands. Bristol used to be a track it was hard to get tickets to and the hotels jacked the rates up when NASCAR came to town, especially for the night race.

[@757CitiesReppa]

@@b.d.cooper8671 I’m sure they pulled a lot of people from a specific demographic, especially from neighboring states. Those people wouldn’t have any effect on sports in the East. East of 95

[@tiberiuswolf8259]

Nebraska isn't interested in having a major sports team, too. We cheer for a few different teams, pro sports-wise, but our love is for our college sports.

[@homedogg1233]

Love all the Favre jokes 💀💀

[@tombowers6713]

Hawaii football is in the mountain west. Rest of teams play in WAC.

[@joermnyc]

I’d say Alaska has a logistics issue too, it’s pretty far from the East Coast, and you may need a layover in Seattle or Los Angeles because there’s not too many direct flights. Imagine an NHL franchise moves into that tiny arena (just ask Phoenix), and Tampa Bay has to go from a home game to Anchorage!

[@PCSPounder]

The old Anchorage Aces (WCHL/ECHL) seemed like a draw for a time. The big issue… owners of other teams HATE paying for that travel and the relative expense of lodging in Anchorage. Owners weren’t exactly willing to help out the Aces when they started having problems. To some degree, I understand that some college ADs in the GNAC might feel the same.

[@realalbertan]

NHL teams fly charter these days, given how the schedule road trips this wouldn't be a huge deal. Eastern clubs usually face a number of western teams on a road trip & vice versa.

[@fumedrummer]

I had to keep re-watching parts of this because I was laughing so hard at the jokes and missed the following commentary. This was funny AF. Thanks!

[@scootwheeliebin]

Alabama did once have a major team in the Birmingham Fire of the WLAF (the feeder league for the NFL) in 1991 & 92 before they paused the league due to financial issues. The WLAF then moved its base to a europe only league in 1995 rather than having it be trans-atlantic and all 7 american teams either ceased operations or joined the CFL expansion like the Sacramento Surge when they became the Sacramento Gold Miners in 1993 which then folded in 1995.

[@billding9297]

USFL and XFL should pick some of these mid-size cities instead of major cities with NFL teams. They will never build a loyal fan base by competing directly with NFL fan bases.

[@ryanbenson8640]

As a South Carolinian, I honestly think that if you turned our minor league baseball teams in Columbia into a Major league team, they would probably generate interest. We’ve lost the Blowfish to Greenville, but the Fireflies generate large crowds regularly.

[@wiljf17]

Agreed but also the Braves are so ingrained as the team of the South and Atlanta isn’t that far for most South Carolinians.

[@daltonweathersby1320]

The Blowfish are still in the Columbia area, just in the suburb of Lexington.

[@ChipArmstrong]

I'm sure others have already pointed out that the Washington NFL franchise is headquartered in Ashburn, VA. The franchise also conducts its summer preseason camp at its facility in Richmond.

[@ReinSouls]

I mean... Hampton Roads has been trying to lure the NBA or NHL since the 90s. So even though the population is largely transient the desire for one is there. Largest issue they've had is building an arena big enough. The most recent attempt that I at least know the outcome of was the proposed beach front arena in Virginia Beach. Which collapsed in late 2017 with the developer suing the city in 2018. With the judge ruling in favor of the city in 2019. Then if I recall Norfolk last year said something about redeveloping the Military Circle Mall into an arena. But I don't know if there's any legs to that.

[@MazeDaGr8]

Well i live in the 757 & I believe that last part is true because there was a time a few years ago where the military circle mall was undergoing some renovations but that never went anywhere

[@vanderfina2544]

Imagine the traffic nightmare on Military Hwy and Va Beach Blvd if they built an arena there...

[@757CitiesReppa]

Correct. The issue of the Arena not being in place was realized when the Hornets wanted to relocate. The state had to create a sports authority to address this for future endeavors. The Military Circle Development proposal is still in the air…I’m not sure who’s design they chose, Pharrell or Bruce Smiths, but I think they all had an arena component.

[@TheMetalFacevillain]

As a Virginian I think this video really captures how shitty traffic is in NoVA. Its unbearably awful.

[@soulknife20]

Albuquerque is a pretty city honestly. Great view of the mountains. We do have the population to support a major team, but what sport that would be I have no idea. Dallas, Denver and Phoenix are fairly close. We also have a lot of Dodgers fans here because the Isotopes used to be a Dodgers farm team.

[@peterlomax5133]

I remember the Bulls and the Knicks playing a sold out exhibition game in 1992 or so at the Pit. Then, some other off brand teams showed up for an exhibition and few showed up. MLS may be the closest to coming to NM, but if the United can't even get a proper stadium built....?

[@comicbookninja5268]

The Albuquerque Dukes used to be the Dodgers farm team as well. Tommy Lasorda I believed coached or managed the team and a lot of Dodger greats came up from there. The most successful team there is probably UNM Lobos basketball but they haven't been decent in a long time.

[@chocolatechipslime]

@@peterlomax5133 Bulls and the Sonics played a exhibition game at The Pit the season after they played each other in the NBA finals. My uncle has a picture of Jordan.

[@longarmsgiraffe0955]

This is unexpectedly one of my favorite videos in the last few months. Bravo FivePoints Vids

[@LCSteeler16]

New Mexico low key could be a good place to have a pro team, pretty nice scenery there

[@RedRaiderLobo20]

We are too poor

[@MagicalBread]

@@RedRaiderLobo20 Louisiana:

[@thecorbohole3637]

Unfortunately the air quality is also absolutely terrible most of the time. As an occasional out of state visitor, I don't think I could jog down the block some days let alone play a game of football.

[@tannerwilson4843]

They is a rumor that an ECHL Team could be coming to Albuquerque in the next year or so. They have a tier 2 junior team in the New Mexico Ice Wolves in the North American Hockey League that is doing quite well. Reached the League semifinal last year.

[@deadchannel440]

I'm still on the boat that MLS might not be a bad option for New Mexico at minimum

[@brittneyteamer8633]

Connecticut has the Sun. A WNBA team. Mohegan Sun arena

[@loveyoubleu]

I really think that the NBA, post Vegas and Seattle expansion, should look into Virginia as team 33-36. There was support for an NHL team that was practically confirmed to join but fell out last second, the Hampton Roads Rhinos. And Virginia Beach was a front runner for when the Kings almost moved in the late 2000’s between Seattle and Anaheim. I think they could support an NBA team. I don’t see the market being too appealing for the MLB when Charlotte is right there, NHL would be harder now that Raleigh has a team, and the NFL is not going to any small markets ever.

[@simplemanchannel3318]

*COUGH COUGH* The Green Bay Packers have the smallest market professional team in the US of all the major sports.

[@JStorm13]

The capitols and the hurricanes would probably object to a team being in Virginia

[@loveyoubleu]

@@simplemanchannel3318 Green Bay is an anomaly. But it’s a historical franchise, publicly owned, and somewhat frugally run. If Green Bay were a new team trying to enter the league today as team 32, it’d not even get an eye from the NFL. The NFL is not going to be looking the way of any small markets or markets with heavy competition. Only options truly viable are St Louis, Chicago, maybe San Antonio and Portland and Toronto would cause lawsuits again.

[@loveyoubleu]

@@JStorm13 That’s why I said it would be harder now, as when the Rhinos were meant to start, the Hurricanes did not exist yet. VB quite usually leans towards DC being part of the DMV, and the Capitals have a good chokehold on the metro in north Hampton Roads, Hurricanes country bleeds into South Hampton Roads. The NBA though has more demand, has far newer interest from the city…could be a great option behind the two cities already lined up. Probably fighting with KC and Vancouver, maybe Pittsburgh but I doubt it.

[@ep_got_the_sauce]

@@loveyoubleu Ever heard of the Bears? St.Louis had 2 NFL teams and could keep either.

[@arnmandleg]

As a Philadelphian attending university at VCU (in Richmond), I really don’t see a way they would even care to have a major team, except maybe nba. They are way more into art and culture, which is cool. One thing’s for sure, I can maintain my loyalty to my Philly teams without being harrassed lol.

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

Trust me, the Californians that move to Idaho are NOT doing it for the taxes LMAO

[@kimyona9746]

They do it to stay away from democrats or from yuppies if not democrats

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

@@kimyona9746 They do it so they can live with like minded bigots

[@SaadHaque72]

What are they doing it for? I'm intrigued

[@Jarekthegamingdragon]

@@SaadHaque72 Republicans moving to a VERY far right state to "escape" a democratic state. Every other reason is secondary.

[@whatsthebigfndeal]

@@SaadHaque72 They're leaving California because their political ideologies and voting patterns ruined it. So, then, they move to a new state and vote the same exact way.

[@NotAJosh]

As someone from buffalo I appreciate the distinction with the Jets and Giants playing in NJ more than I did the Josh Allen reference

[@bryantsteury8910]

"You can't throw a rock in these states without hitting a red sox fan" promise?

[@Alan-lv9rw]

The Hartford Whalers had a tremendous following. They were #5 in NHL merchandise sales 20 years after they left town.

[@joeneri150]

A lot of people think that a lot these states don't have any sports experience just because big leagues like the NFL, MLS, MLB, NHL, nor the NBA don't set up a team there, but a lot sports fans never count small leagues like the AHL, MiLB, USL, and Indoor Football.

[@ep_got_the_sauce]

Name one person who thinks that.

[@CatholicTraditional]

Bear-in-mind that minor league sports’ purpose is player development. They’re often a tough sell, and have to often do gimmicks just to get people in the stands. Independent leagues aren’t much different.

[@SupermanHopkins]

The shade being thrown in this video is ::chef's kiss:: perfect. 😂

[@DaRealJoeySalas]

Interesting vid Five. Also FYI the Hawaii Rainbow Warriors are part of the Mountain West for college Football as the WAC disbanded years ago. Also fun fact Hawaii did actually have a pro sports team in the 70s called The Hawaiians. The Hawaiians were part of the World Football League.

[@massconviction]

Both of the pictures he shows even have the MW logo in it.

[@lottoguy6457]

The world football league wasn’t a major sport. It was a trash league. 😊

[@jmad627]

When I lived in Newport News in the early 70's we had Dr. J and the ABA Squires. Loved the old ABA.

[@maxwasson2000]

I actually do think Omaha, Des Moines, Little Rock, and Wichita could support teams in the future

[@dvferyance]

Omaha maybe.

[@jamesjoseph1249]

@@dvferyance Omaha would probably work for basketball or hockey. You'd get the Omaha/Council Bluffs crowd, and you'd get the KC television market...it could work.

[@cope847]

Omaha might be too close to KC for most major sports. Maybe NHL. It's a surprisingly big hockey market.

[@maplejet]

Omaha's got a NHL/NBA ready arena.

[@JMRyan10]

Omaha tends to be a college sports town with Nebraska and Creighton. It also tends to be a big event town with the CWS, Olympic swim trials and the Senior US Open doing really well there.

[@559footballtalk2]

Hawaii plays in the Mountain West, WAC is FCS now

[@559footballtalk2]

For Football

[@marksman_1372]

As a Marylander, I feel Virginia deserves some sort of sports team whether that he NFL, MLB, NHL, etc., they’re a big state and could definitely draw a bunch more fans to major sports.

[@mikenike1616]

Yea you sound like someone who never lived in the inner city

[@donneezyracing5756]

As a Philadelphian I commended you of the proper use of the word Jawn.

[@brianpack5479]

Once upon a time, Virginia had the Squires and Dr. J.

[@crazyluigi6664]

Yep.

[@raymondhopwood9393]

I knew they once had an ABA team, but I couldn't remember the tram's name. Did the Squires play in Richmond?

[@brianpack5479]

@@raymondhopwood9393 They were a "regional" franchise with a home base in Norfolk, but also played in Hampton and Richmond.

[@dwadewilkins2499]

I understand the hesitation in having a NBA team in the Hampton Roads area, mostly due to the traffic already being bad enough. But the people that live here would support it, just look how we support athletes from our area. Also a lot of the military folks end up staying in the area after serving, so it's not as transient as it may appear.

[@peterfox2256]

As a VA resident: DC is a large part of it, but college sports have also been a factor. College football with UVA, VA Tech, and even JMU to an extent have put themselves on the map. UVA also has in a big way with basketball. DC benefits from having fans from VA, West VA, DC, and also places like Maryland for sports they don’t have. (Like the NHL).

[@joshmoats7981]

ODU more so than JMU......ODU has had a couple nice wins against Virginia Tech.

[@ChillyWilly09]

@@joshmoats7981 And let's not forget when their former QB broke the D1 record (at the time) for passing yards in a single game in 2012

[@cvzphotography]

Didn't expect the funny digs. Great work.