Why don't we know how many people are in Britain?

[@maxcream6726]

Sadly, Boris is a traitor.

[@martincrocker7154]

Once upon a time there was a high trust society by the name of Great Britain after many years of piss poor stewardship it collapsed into a low trust shit show

[@kim007250]

Think that kinda sums it up in a nutshell really

[@clivecowlard7098]

Margaret Thatcher said there was no such thing as society... And we have had forty years of her anti-social policies

[@perikleshistory]

In my local supermarket the steaks are locked up

[@fatboy7276]

so true

[@czwarty7878]

@@perikleshistory I can't imagine living in such conditions and accepting this

[@vispolonia2670]

Millions came but bussinesses still can't get workers. Makes you thinik.

[@TheCraigy83]

Our tasks often require 100iq...you can't train to reach that number you can only inherit it .

[@sulner9997]

@@TheCraigy83 is that why your industry was taken over by other countries before migration became a issue, like cars and others, or its not that its how you setup your society, are you saying only h1b visa outside europe and the usa can do these jobs, which they are now

[@katl6320]

The British are too polite in this regard and that is why they will do nothing.

[@JCRezonna-dl5qz]

Yep. A nailed on cert, sadly.

[@TheCraigy83]

no were not ! i'm a rite mouthy gobshytee , i tell it like i see it and i dgaf who i pi$$ off , i draw the line at nothing! they stole my white thumbs up so ◻🥊

[@YesYes-xb6he]

Governments have tried to introduce an ID card on a number of occasions but failed, they have now created the conditions that makes the introduction of one almost essential.

[@alphabetaxenonzzzcat]

Exactly - the old saying - problem, reaction and solution. Unfortunately, I think the public is very naïve over ID cards in thinking they are a good thing.

[@JohnHaveaguessGoogle]

Nearly all EU countries (Denmark excepted) have compulsory ID cards...hasn't solved anything...not the murders,gang-rapes,mass sexual assault,violence,robbery. Not a damn thing.

[@normanlazarus1836]

@@alphabetaxenonzzzcatOut of interest what do you think that the problems are with an ID system being implemented?

[@MindbodyMedic]

It's already ready to roll out. A panopticon system of cradle to grave surveillance. Blair will use illegal migrants as the excuse to push for it and Keir will oblige. Blair is utterly obsessed with data/ AI

[@BrianPaterson-f3i]

Trust!

[@thomasmorin749]

The Water companies say it's much higher than the official figure. The DWP must have a fair idea as well.

[@lesleycronin832]

Because if the actual number was revealed people would be terrified.

[@looneytoons171]

But dont you worry, we need all these doctors and engineers to deliver our uber eats

[@nickdawson9270]

What we can be sure about is that it is NOT in the interests of either politicians or the civil servants to tell the whole truth.

[@marccas10]

Just remember folks to always chime in with The Guardian when they talk about the water companies dumping sewage into rivers when overwhelmed. Never ever ever ask "why" though. Just look at the hand the magician is waving.

[@scotlandtheinsane3359]

This is why I HATED 'Mr lockdown' Johnson and was called an SNP voter for it.. Ask ALL the supermarkets how many people are really here.. As well as the sewage companies etc..

[@mikeoglen6848]

What do they say the figure is?

[@scotlandtheinsane3359]

@mikeoglen6848 As far as I know they haven't said anything directly, but have been pushing for a relaxtion of monopoly restrictions due to a much increase in demand.. If we had all of their data it would definitely give us an indication.

[@bencarter2334]

One thing for sure it doesn't matter where in the country you go super markets are packed. It doesn't seem to make a difference what time of day you go either.

[@orglancs]

@@bencarter2334 Yes, that's a perceptive comment. Related to that is a feeling I started having a couple of years ago, that there were many more people everywhere, that streets and especially any open squares and parks, etc, seemed much more crowded than they used to be. Another subjective indicator is how rarely one hears English spoken now.

[@nickgood8166]

Becsuse 'The Great Replacement' is policy of both Labour and Tories. It is not a 'conspiracy theory'. Native Britons are on target to be a minority in their homeland around 2060.

[@miraladak2314]

I doubt very much that it is intentional. Just gross incompetence by successive governments.

[@aardvark99rex14]

​@@miraladak2314it is happening everywhere in the West and it is being done intentionally, both your your major parties are responsible! Soros and the wef are pushing for open borders as part of their globalist agenda. If you don't wake up soon your country is gone!

[@GodsOwnPrototype]

Remember most of the inflows are into England, so the children of English families are set to be a minority in the schooling system within 10years & the English Nation in their homeland in a mere few decades. Due to free movement within the UK the smaller nations are actually at risk right now of being minoritised in their kingdom within a few months should there just be a coordinated mass movement of people of foreign extraction into them.

[@lindsaytwort8655]

It was not Johnson who started it but Blair.

[@kolokowalsky772]

Everyone knows, why these "people" want to end up in the UK. Except government, Home Office, authorities, and some journalist.

[@MarkCarleone]

Yes they want the easy life, benefits house free schooling and health care.

[@VeronicaMarriott-b6t]

They don’t want you to know

[@lesleycronin832]

Because the real number would be terrifying

[@BrianPaterson-f3i]

Is

[@DropdudeJohn]

You know they do, they just don't want us to know, and its not really the number its the demographic

[@JCRezonna-dl5qz]

I was born in Manchester in 1972 but haven't lived in Britain since 1999. Bear in mind that there are also millions like me who are no longer in the country but it still feels rammed compared to two or three decades ago.

[@marccas10]

I don't know how many people are here....I do know that if my child or your child is going to have any chance to own their own home, 10 million people are going to have to leave.

[@MarkCarleone]

Politicians have caused this problem letting illegal immigrants and criminals in without any checks, and because it's causing problems with the increase in welfare financially, they are now cutting pensioners money, and disability money, who is next? They created this problem they need to fix it quickly.

[@getmurked6859]

That’s simply untrue 30 million people could leave this country and your kids still probably couldn’t buy a home. The issue there is income and wealth inequality, You should watch Gary Stevenson channel about this topic. The super wealthy like to pump the immigration talk because it lets them off the hook regarding this. If you dislike immigration for other reasons then fair enough.

[@GodsOwnPrototype]

Stevenson is not entirely wrong, (taxing back monies from beneficiaries of massive unproductive government spending for example), but he also misses some very large points that are in fact more important.

[@Epiales3]

Tesco have been hiring illegal immigrants for years.

[@knockedoutloaded]

The ONS says that the population of my county has increased by 32,000 in the last decade. Just from stepping out of my front door I can tell that's completely false

[@maxhobbs5512]

The ONS definitely doesn't say this

[@alphabetaxenonzzzcat]

Johnson claimed he opened up immigration to counter the inflation caused by lockdowns - I'd say that is rubbish, because I suspect he was firstly told to do so and also because I think he is a fan of mass immigration. Of course, he shouldn't of implemented lockdowns in the first place - but that is another story(lockdowns which The Spectator supported as we should remember).

[@malicant123]

I would not be surprised if the UK population were over 80 million, and in my more dejected moments, I am open to the possibility that it could be as high as 100 million.

[@JerzyTadeuszMichalow]

Agree with you 100%. The figure could be well over 100 million. The illegal immigration invasion will not be resolved by democratic elections, or Saturday afternoon get togethers in Central London by Patriotic Englishmen, Scots, Welsh or Irish. This invasion by hostile Third Worlders will only be dealt with by direct, brutal, disciplined and well planned military action by highly trained and motivated men. Period.

[@chrisf9377]

I live in one of those very diverse towns that your hear mentioned. In 2013 then the council contracted a company to fly a plane over the town and they identified 6000 outbuildings that were generating heat. You can walk down residential roads and you'll see lots of 3 bed houses with 5 or 6 cars in the driveway and the street is full of cars parked on the road. It was nothing like this 15+ years ago.

[@cannz9134]

Everyone has a mobile phone. So its possible to tell exactly how many of us there are. All of our movements are tracked and information sold. So in truth it's a case of none disclosure by the state regarding population specifics.

[@pierzing.glint1sh76]

Not everyone has a phone lol plenty of old timers still use landline only. And then u don't know how many ppl r in that house

[@Spottytoadstool]

😅 not everyone dearie 😂

[@cannz9134]

@pierzing.glint1sh76 Of course, they know. There is a microphone in your phone that you talk into. AI can model your voice well enough to detect it through other people's devices. Thats how the state can locate criminal groups of people who are known to each other. This technology is not new either

[@cannz9134]

@Spottytoadstool there are more smart phones than humans

[@mauricecousins8650]

You most certainly do see homeless camps in Central London - something you did not see two decades ago. You see them on Park Lane, under the A40 near Edgware Road and elsewhere in Westminster.

[@80sandretrogubbins25]

Not completely true there weren't any before, what about "cardboard city" in Charing Cross?

[@lenkapenka6976]

Estimates in 2007 from supermarkets was 77 million, check the old Independent article from Sunday 28 October 2007.... very revealing. I estimate now likely 90 million..... just ask the supermarkets.

[@abazely2743]

Algorithms used by our providers of goods and services put our population at nearer 80m which may account for many of our problems.

[@lesleycronin832]

I'd say nearer to 90-100m

[@padfa3939]

There were 1M illegal migrants in the UK in 2010 and Borders Agency quite openly said that there where easily another 2M that they did not know about. Given that illegal migration has accelerated in the last 4 or so years how many do you think are in the UK now? Think about that.

[@billparsons2702]

The lack of knowledge is directly related to the fact that there is no coordinated mechanism across government to manage identity and entitlement. Any attempt to improve that is always resisted - probably by the same people who complain about illegal migration, benefit fraud, health tourists and identity fraud. We are an door club with no membership system.

[@theyatsyspam]

Those people, along with the rest of the majority, didn't vote for the situation. And it's perfectly rational to imply that this situation was forced specifically to create conditions where a comprehensive ID system is necessary.

[@peteworthy8322]

We have always relied upon a system of periodic national census to guage the total population of the UK, rather than a simple counting of immigrants and emmigrants at points of entrance or exit. Parliament has always voted down the compulsory carrying of identity cards, which would be an important aid to the calculation of population.

[@htflsteve]

Yes you are correct, when the rest of Europe had ID cards the English relied on social norms and trust. I drought ID would make any difference.

[@REwing]

Poor old Britain!!!

[@GroundUp-k7o]

I live in Portugal and there seems to be quite a few people from India and Africa waiting for Portuguese passport to continue onward to UK where they have family

[@KimThomas-vp4vm]

We already have ID, we have driving license's, passports, bus passes, student travel cards, etc.

[@sotiresome5238]

Missed that as the population goes up, you need to build more prisons too, particularity if not vetting entrants.

[@stevenpaterson5100]

Would a country that doesn't police it's borders or check who is in the country not sound to you like a country ripe for a hostile take over? 3 guys with automatic weopons could control an unarmed village very quickly and we know how many illegal immigrants are here, non of which we know anything about. And if it does go that way, Starmer and co will be off in the first private jet. Might never happen,but it might....terrifying!!!

[@BigAlCapwn]

The ONS have admitted they massively undercounted the number of EU citizens in the UK prior to Brexit, which was the famous figure of "the 3 million". When it came to applying for 'settled status', just over 6m did.

[@SimonWallwork]

THERE IS NO PASSPORT CHECK LEAVING THE UK! So we do not know who left and who stayed. Without Border Control for exiting the UK, how can we know? I left in 2013, but am likely still counted as being there.

[@alunevans380]

The North Yorkshire town of Middlesbrough is the UK's migrant capital, with more new arrivals flocking there per head than anywhere else in the country. "This area is overrun with people coming in and a lot of houses there are being done up to move people up from London", one disgruntled north-east said.

[@advocate1563]

One.of the many reasons we've left. We still read UK news - looks bonkers...

[@indigophanta8288]

Where did you escape to?

[@BigAlCapwn]

The total numbers are not as important as the ratio. All of my local supermarkets now have at least one or two dedicated "world food" aisles, which are not there to encourage the natives to expand their horizons, but to cater for the recognised significant population of foreigners

[@rakadus]

The people who started "Census" in India in the 19th century are struggling to do the same in the 21st century in their homeland.

[@MindbodyMedic]

Any official estimate is off by 25% at least and always on lower end.

[@angelah2083]

Since when did you cease to need a NI number (except for children) to register with a GP?

[@TheoriginalDamo]

This guy being interviewed can’t complete a single one of his sentences without changing what he began to say. Incoherent.

[@GabrielWard2001]

This is insane!!

[@WayneMcauliffe-f1s]

I`d hate to live in England

[@JimmoStClair]

1:02 Nope, the Treasury wants more for 'ma GDP'.

[@fannyblancmange4709]

The commentariat here hardly any better than the political class they claim to be speaking lame truth to. "We don't know but erm not knowing is better than erm knowing if it's for bad reasons erm".

[@yatch989]

Original british today are too kind cultured and polite.

[@jdg9999]

Did the host seriously suggest that there's something un British about opposing illegal immigration?

[@daigreatcoat44]

You try to count them, but they keep moving about.

[@Barry-tl3ru]

4 times more than they crack on.

[@lesleycronin832]

At least

[@Libertariun]

Sales of bacon down.

[@mrror8933]

Bojox the conman clown

[@martynmcclure7121]

I’m a conservative person who votes Labour because, on balance, as an employee, my interests are better served by them. I couldn’t bring myself to vote for either candidate in 2019 but at least I felt, “well, if Boris is relying on Red Wall votes, he’ll need to help them to keep them onside”. However, as soon as the post-pandemic labour shortage caused wages for working-class people to rise, he flooded the country with immigrants on the behest of his masters. That has sealed the Conservative Party’s fate - they will never form a majority government again, imo.

[@arthur1670]

....2025 don't they track in out now

[@robinkleinsteuber5217]

Ah, because no one gives a sh^t??

[@فردوس-خ4ح]

آنِآ آخِتٌکْمً مًنِ آلَيَمًنِ وٌآلَلَهّ مًآتٌکْلَمًتٌ آلَآ مًنِ جّوٌعٌ وٌمًنِ ضيَقُ آلَحًآلَ آنِآ وٌآمًيَ وٌآخِوٌتٌيَ نِسِتٌقُبًلَ رمًضآنِ بًآلَعٌبًرآتٌ وٌآلَدٍمًوٌعٌ نِحًنِ فُيَ حًآلَهّ لَآيَعٌلَمً بًهّآ آلَآ آلَلَهّ حًسِبًنِآ آلَلَهّ وٌنِعٌمً آلَوٌکْيَلَ فُيَ مًنِ آوٌصّلَنِآ آلَێ هّآذِآ آلَحًآلَ 💔💔 وٌآلَلَهّ آلَعٌظُيَمً مًآکْتٌبًتٌ هّذِآ آلَمًنِآشُدٍهّ غُيَر مًنِ آلَضيَقُ وٌآلَفُقُر يَآعٌآلَمً حًسِوٌ فُيَنِآ آرجّوٌکْمً وٌآلَلَهّ آلَعٌظُيَمً ربً آلَعٌرشُ آلَعٌظُيَمً آنِهّ آلَآکْلَ مًآفُيَ عٌنِدٍيَ بًآلَبًيَتٌ وٌآلَلَهّ يَآ آخِوٌآنِيَ آنِهّ آخِوٌآنِيَ بًقُعٌدٍوٌ بًآلَيَوٌمًيَنِ مًآفُيَ آکْلَ وٌآلَلَهّ وٌضعٌنِآ کْثًيَر صّعٌبً نِحًنِ 4 نِفُر دٍآخِلَ آلَبًيَتٌ وٌآبًيَ مًتٌوٌفُيَ وٌلَآ يَوٌجّدٍ مًنِ يَعٌوٌلَ عٌلَيَنِآ وٌسِآکْنِيَنِ فُيَ بًيَتٌ آجّآر وٌلَآنِسِتٌطِيَعٌ دٍفُعٌ آلَآجّآر آلَلَيَ بًآقُيَ عٌلَيَنِآ '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''اخي اول كلامي انا اقسم بالله على كتاب الله اني لااكذب عليك ولا انصب ولا احتال اني بنت يمنيه من اليمن نازحين من انا واسرتي بيننا ایت الشهرب 20 الف يمني والان علينا 60 الف حق 3 شهور وصاحب البيت من الناس الي ماترحم والله يا اخي انه يجي كل يوم يبهدلنا ويتكلم علينا ويريد من البيت للشارع لانناماقدرنا ندفعله الأجار شافونا الجيران نبكي ورجعو تكلمو الجيران ومهلنالاخره الأسبوع معادفعنا له حلف يمين بالله هذا بيخرجنا إلى الشارع رحمه واحنا. بلادنا بسبب هذا الحرب ولانجد قوت يومنا وعايشين اناوامي واخوتي سفار والدنا متوفي الله يرحمه ومامعنا أحد في هذا الدنيا جاانبنا في هذه الظروف القاسيه اخوتي الصغار خرجو للشارع وشافو الجيران ياكلو واوقفو عند بابهم لجل يعطوهم ولو كسره خبز والله الذي له ملك السموات والارض انهم غلفو الباب وطردوهم ورجعو یبکو ایموتو من الجوع ما احد رحمهم وعطلة ردها لقمت عیش والان لوما احدنا ساعدنا في إيكيلو دقيق اقسم بالله انموت من الجوع فيا اخي انا دخيله على الله ثم عليك واريد منك المساعده لوجه الله انشدك بالله تحب الخير واتساعدني ولو ب 500 ريال يمني مع تراسلي واتساب على هذا الرقم 00967711528949 وتطلب اسم بطاقتي وترسلي ولاتتاخر وايعوضك الله بكل خير اخواني سغار شوف كيف حالتهم وساعدنا وأنقذنا قبل أن يطردونا في الشارع تتبهدل أو نموت من الجوع وانا واسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعد لاتتاخر علينا وجزاك الله خيرااااااااااااا€°^^

[@RanglebotThumperdink]

Speak English.

[@fgoogleinthea7475]

Quiet you.

[@PrisBartonon]

I don't know who came up with this video, but he's clearly a genius. And so is the cat🌺

[@فردوس-خ4ح]

آنِآ آخِتٌکْمً مًنِ آلَيَمًنِ وٌآلَلَهّ مًآتٌکْلَمًتٌ آلَآ مًنِ جّوٌعٌ وٌمًنِ ضيَقُ آلَحًآلَ آنِآ وٌآمًيَ وٌآخِوٌتٌيَ نِسِتٌقُبًلَ رمًضآنِ بًآلَعٌبًرآتٌ وٌآلَدٍمًوٌعٌ نِحًنِ فُيَ حًآلَهّ لَآيَعٌلَمً بًهّآ آلَآ آلَلَهّ حًسِبًنِآ آلَلَهّ وٌنِعٌمً آلَوٌکْيَلَ فُيَ مًنِ آوٌصّلَنِآ آلَێ هّآذِآ آلَحًآلَ 💔💔 وٌآلَلَهّ آلَعٌظُيَمً مًآکْتٌبًتٌ هّذِآ آلَمًنِآشُدٍهّ غُيَر مًنِ آلَضيَقُ وٌآلَفُقُر يَآعٌآلَمً حًسِوٌ فُيَنِآ آرجّوٌکْمً وٌآلَلَهّ آلَعٌظُيَمً ربً آلَعٌرشُ آلَعٌظُيَمً آنِهّ آلَآکْلَ مًآفُيَ عٌنِدٍيَ بًآلَبًيَتٌ وٌآلَلَهّ يَآ آخِوٌآنِيَ آنِهّ آخِوٌآنِيَ بًقُعٌدٍوٌ بًآلَيَوٌمًيَنِ مًآفُيَ آکْلَ وٌآلَلَهّ وٌضعٌنِآ کْثًيَر صّعٌبً نِحًنِ 4 نِفُر دٍآخِلَ آلَبًيَتٌ وٌآبًيَ مًتٌوٌفُيَ وٌلَآ يَوٌجّدٍ مًنِ يَعٌوٌلَ عٌلَيَنِآ وٌسِآکْنِيَنِ فُيَ بًيَتٌ آجّآر وٌلَآنِسِتٌطِيَعٌ دٍفُعٌ آلَآجّآر آلَلَيَ بًآقُيَ عٌلَيَنِآ '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''اخي اول كلامي انا اقسم بالله على كتاب الله اني لااكذب عليك ولا انصب ولا احتال اني بنت يمنيه من اليمن نازحين من انا واسرتي بيننا ایت الشهرب 20 الف يمني والان علينا 60 الف حق 3 شهور وصاحب البيت من الناس الي ماترحم والله يا اخي انه يجي كل يوم يبهدلنا ويتكلم علينا ويريد من البيت للشارع لانناماقدرنا ندفعله الأجار شافونا الجيران نبكي ورجعو تكلمو الجيران ومهلنالاخره الأسبوع معادفعنا له حلف يمين بالله هذا بيخرجنا إلى الشارع رحمه واحنا. بلادنا بسبب هذا الحرب ولانجد قوت يومنا وعايشين اناوامي واخوتي سفار والدنا متوفي الله يرحمه ومامعنا أحد في هذا الدنيا جاانبنا في هذه الظروف القاسيه اخوتي الصغار خرجو للشارع وشافو الجيران ياكلو واوقفو عند بابهم لجل يعطوهم ولو كسره خبز والله الذي له ملك السموات والارض انهم غلفو الباب وطردوهم ورجعو یبکو ایموتو من الجوع ما احد رحمهم وعطلة ردها لقمت عیش والان لوما احدنا ساعدنا في إيكيلو دقيق اقسم بالله انموت من الجوع فيا اخي انا دخيله على الله ثم عليك واريد منك المساعده لوجه الله انشدك بالله تحب الخير واتساعدني ولو ب 500 ريال يمني مع تراسلي واتساب على هذا الرقم 00967711528949 وتطلب اسم بطاقتي وترسلي ولاتتاخر وايعوضك الله بكل خير اخواني سغار شوف كيف حالتهم وساعدنا وأنقذنا قبل أن يطردونا في الشارع تتبهدل أو نموت من الجوع وانا واسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعد لاتتاخر علينا وجزاك الله خيرااااااااااااا¢€€€

[@fgoogleinthea7475]

Nobody cares.