Why Double Decker Local Trains Are a Stupid Idea

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While double-decker trains have the potential to increase passenger capacity, there are several reasons why they may not be practical for Mumbai. From infrastructure limitations to safety concerns, the challenges of implementing double-decker trains are numerous. Join us as we delve into the world of Mumbai's local trains and explore the alternatives to double-decker trains.
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[@suneetabhat1822]

Only Mumbai Metro can save Mumbai City by making Mumbai City jam free and can become a lifeline for city.

[@blackspace2981]

Na bhai.... Metro v ek time baad bhoat jyada bhar jaati h.... Delhi metro 5-10 saal baad mumbai local jaise ho jayegi....avi itna bura haal h delhi metro ka bhot population h.....

[@Zapzuuuuu]

@@blackspace2981 delhi mai sirf metro hai local trains nahi hai

[@justarandomguywithoutaname8719]

Metro is a part of solution, except it we need to upgrade local trains, add more local train routes(including semi high speed routes to , improve bus network, improve city design so most commutes would be at walking distance and add and mantain footpaths and cycle lanes

[@SoumyaChowdhury24081995]

​@@justarandomguywithoutaname8719 indian city developers only think about cars. That is why they build flyovers and then say that metro or LRT cant be constructed because of the flyover

[@user-sj9xq6hb9p]

Everything will reach to its peak capacity and then the metro would be maxed out too. You guys don't understand the word population, it keeps growing, the land does not

[@stevendsouza7891]

When you started talking about suffocation i started imagining it and literally made me feel claustrophobic 😂🥵

[@Saurabh_Utter-Pradesh]

Ufff

[@ashishadabar1734]

Hey bro thnx for that word😂

[@ammarjawadwala8928]

I avoid local trains in peak time due to claustrophobia

[@Tutanchat]

same in local Eastern Railway( kolkata)🤣🤦‍♂️

[@chetankhandewahe]

I have asked it in askpt of your initial videos below 100.....and you answered it well.....thank you

[@PowerTrain]

My pleasure

[@factoshala1487]

we are the luckiest generation to be ever born in India we saw India are watching India growing

[@Amoghavarsha.]

Let's hope we all play our role adequately to make our country great. ಭಾರತ ಮಾತೆಗೆ ಜಯವಾಗಲಿ 💐 Jai Hind 🇮🇳

[@friendlyatheist9589]

@@the_ultimate_Anxiety koi baat nahi. Fk up hona hai subka future me. I hope you won't use expressways

[@Amoghavarsha.]

@@the_ultimate_Anxiety why are you using internet ? It will cause harm to sparrows and little birds....

[@Israel_wale_chacha]

@@the_ultimate_Anxiety stop drinking water , you are converting it to urine and wasting it .

[@legendarymortarplayer9453]

@@the_ultimate_Anxiety fir bhutan chale jao hame financial development chahiye

[@AdityaKaushik1501]

Rrts like train system is required I Mumbai and surrounding areas. I think it will be implemented in Mumbai after seeing its impact in Delhi.

[@masurkarvedanta]

We Mumbaikars want all local trains to be full AC at cheap rates, similar to Metros. This is a necessity inorder to upgrade the standard of living of Mumbaikars, this will also reduce hanging from doors and keep people inside trains, also frequency should be reduced to 2 mins per train

[@jaysiddhapura]

try to replace all the normal local train with ac local, and you will see a big protest. unfortunately we enjoy poverty and low living standard! 🥲🎉

[@Rajnaitik_Samachar]

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[@Rajnaitik_Samachar]

हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी।

[@Rajnaitik_Samachar]

हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी।

[@masurkarvedanta]

@@jaysiddhapura no buddy development hokar rahega, last week decision for tender floating of 200 Ac trains was made we have to wait and watch

[@rasoolkeuusoolfatimakekhet72]

Specialised coaches are must for mumbai for rapid acceleration- deceleration

[@ayeshaclassesgk]

Power train💟I was like I am so bored on KZbin but Then I saw a new vid from you and now having a good day

[@zhappy]

Automatic doors are a must

[@Brand250]

Phir to vo AC train ho Jaega

[@srggamer1866]

Yes Automatic doors are important

[@14abhisekmahapatra41]

Andheri me band nahi hoga door

[@krusty07]

Not possible

[@Cool_Boygamr]

@@krusty07 Its possible we just need to change

[@adivlogs141]

They should increase station platform height equal to door height, should have barrier gates on platforms of train doors like metro 2A

[@Chaitanya1310]

Platform Screen Doors (PSDs) can used only if the signalling system is CBTC.

[@gambhiragrawal3569]

#AskPT: What if seat alignment change from current designs to that used in metroes, so that more space would be available to stand, and seating for some special citizens.

[@rasoolkeuusoolfatimakekhet72]

Even seat hta dena hi theek rhega

[@PowerTrain]

It has been tried before, it failed

[@jaybagwe7316]

@@PowerTrain why it failed how can we improve it now

[@JokerJoker-xc7xb]

@@PowerTrain I request you to make a Video that why spliting of State is always a Bad Idea in Long term. Instead of Focusing on too much Decentralization of Power, why it is Necessary to Build Infrastructure, Road, Expressways and New Freight Rail Lines, Between the 2 Cities which would Cover almost all Poor Villages or Cities. As we can clearly see that Bihar Becomes Poorer State, when Jharkhand get Separate out, as Jharkhand was Coal mining Hub. We can also see How UP becomes Poorer state, When Uttrakhand get Separate out from UP as, Uttrakhand is a Tourist Hub. We can also see, How Andhra Pradesh get Poorer State when Telangana get Separate out, as Telangana is an IT as well as Semi-Industrial State.

[@JokerJoker-xc7xb]

@@manusharma7487 Well Bro I dont know who soch mohak Mangal but I will definately ask it. anyway, Politics, Infrastructure Development and Economic Activities are Brother of same Womb. ~Kautliya Arthashastra Even Powertrain will Agree with that without Politics, you cant do Development. Do you know why India never Becomes an Industrial State like European Countries or China????? Because of Land Hoarding Problem by Zamindaars, Politicians, Underworld Mafias and Rich Oligarch. After-all You need a Land for doing an Infrastructure Development, Town Planning, Creating New Urban Cities or Opening a Manufacturing Factory especially related to Defense Sectors or Aerospace Sector Right????

[@unearthly_fellow2879]

Did u know Kolkata Suburban Railway system (local train system) is the largest Suburban system in India (it almost cover whole South Bengal)...and Just like Mumbai... here in Southern Bengal Local train is our lifeline...❤

[@rajdeepvijayaraj4243]

I recently visited Kolkata, the metro system is amazing there. Love from Bengaluru.

[@friendlyatheist9589]

The pressure to reach in time is one of the reason behind such rush. We need city metro system in Mumbai just like delhi ab Maharashtra government ke upar hai wo kiya karna chahte

[@DARNEJITENDRA]

A Metro-like configuration can help but it will reduce seating capacity and increase the standing of passengers. The reduction of Long-distance trains in the suburban network will increase the frequency. Another option is to have viaducts to boost network lines and thereby adding more services and reducing overcrowding in trains.

[@erwinrommel9137]

Atleast IR must shift local train's electrical equipment into underslung of the train It will help increaseing capacity without adding any coaches. And make coaches interconnected and air conditioning

[@PowerTrain]

It's already being done in newer trains

[@Cheryminati5.]

​@@PowerTrain double decker train is the only solution,in Europe they handle over crowd by double decker and its effective

[@Chaitanya1310]

Currently it's being experimented in 1 AC local. Looks like it will be implemented in future.

[@RamkrishanYT]

I'm so happy a train specific hindi channel has grown so big Congrats on your success and thank you for the amazing content

[@ganeshjagannathprabhu1301]

You Are Infrastructural Video Are Best 👍👍👍

[@PowerTrain]

Thank you so much 😀

[@ganeshjagannathprabhu1301]

@@PowerTrain Welcome 😁

[@prasannask8320]

for those who are saying, why don't we build elevated tracks above the current tracks, i want to remind them that, the trains tracks are not the only things which are there along the route, there are also many road-over-rail bridges, some of them critically important to road traffic. so, either the rail corridor gets built at a height where it passes over the road bridge, or the road bridge is broken down and recreated to pass over the double level rail train. either way, it is a very costly and disruptive maneuver. and technical thing is, building another road on top of existing road is one thing, |it is relatively easy, but building anything over live wires at 25KV is totally another thing. that too when the train traffic is continuous, the risk of falling debris is way too much.

[@friendlyatheist9589]

The only solution is more and more metro also development of other cities so people go to those cities for jobs too not just Mumbai. Kaafi jayda population issue hai

[@MrPrandhir]

Mumbai - Nashik and Mumbai- Pune can also reduce crowd in local trains

[@AmartyaRao356]

Uk in both sections ghats ata hai local train ghats nahi Chad sakta so bad idea

[@MrPrandhir]

@@AmartyaRao356 rrts se ho sakta hai, Vande Bharat has been successful

[@AmartyaRao356]

@@MrPrandhir hmm oo tohbasa mention kar na

[@prasannask8320]

there is one main problem with Mumbai Local line setup especially platforms. currently track 1 and 2 are for slow down and slow up traffic while track 3 and 4 are for fast down and fast up. applies to both Central as well as Western railway. ideally, in a quadruple setup, outer tracks i.e., 1 and 4 should be for slow trains and inner tracks 2 and 3 should have been for fast trains. this way, there was no need for platforms for track 2 and 3 where fast trains do not stop. but main benefit would have been that changing trains would have been much easier. suppose if we are at Church gate and want to go to Santacruz, now presently, we have to get down at Bandra platform 4, then walk up the staircase, walk the corridor, go down the staircase to platform1 and then catch the slow train there to go to Santacruz, this causes crowding on the staircase as well as the overhead pass ways. but if the 1 and 2 were for down slow and down fast trains, then the process would be --> we would get in a fast train, get down at Bandra and at same platform on other side, get into a slow train and reach Santacruz. no need to climb up and down the staircase, only ones on the staircase would be those whose destination is that station. such tracks exist in lonavala Pune section where the stretch is only two tracks but it splits into 4 tracks at some stations so that local trains take the inner tracks (1 and 4) while mail trains pass through on inner tracks (2 and 3)

[@joemama-yw5rc]

I love the new Intro. Keep it for all your videos.

[@mik29k]

How about some "only standing local" in peek hours??? Hear me out!!! My POV (I'm sure many would agree) Time spent in train: 1hr+ one way 70% days i travel entirely standing. 20% days i get to sit for last 10-15 mins. 10% days i skip trains because of no space. Those who don't want to stand and not in a rush can wait. And those who don't care because they travel standing anyways would get on it. Ventilation needs to be improved/redesigned that's for sure.

[@daksheshbhide]

If everyone is going to stand, won't it hinder the air flow inside?

[@suprashank]

You need to talk and request people to join ur channel.

[@oadka]

The usage of purely Indian stock footage relevant to the topic is highly appreciated. Other channels often use stock footage of trains in other countries.

[@prasannask8320]

Another menace in Local Trains is people standing in Half part of the doorways and thus only half part of the double doors is actually available for passengers to get in and get out. one easy way of cancelling this culture is to make it official that all exits must be from the side the train is going and all entry must be made from the other side of the door ie if the train is going to Virar, then at Dadar station, platform is on left hand side, the left-hand side part of the doorway (pointing towards Virar) should be the one for alighting while the right-hand side should be for getting in. at Bandra, Andheri, Borivali, it would be the right-hand side for alighting and left-hand side for getting in as platform is on the right side of the train. if this rule was made official, the door blocking situation will automatically become illegal. this rule will also help in passenger behavior when AC trains with closed doors become the Norm. perfect solution would be double discharge stations, but it is too late to implement it.

[@satishkumarnair9781]

In Mumbai biggest problem in local train people facing is of not the space but a problem so far ignored by all. The problem is 4 door coaches. Because of this in platform people overcrowding in order to reach doors. At the same time inside the train again people overcrowd near the 4 gates to get easy exit. When train come to halt from platform people start climbing even before train stop only to face the people getting ready to alight. This create a he'll of a situation for exit and entry. Otherwise inside the train people manage the space available. This exit entry problem can be solved only by increasing the doors . A coach can easily redesign with at least 6 or 7 doors in place of 4. This will dispers the density of crowing at 4 to 6 or 7 . Life will be easier. Standing space increasing means better commuting. Authority must think about this Otherwise when all trains come with closed door facility travel will become much more difficult as the density of traveling public per minute per train is unbelievable in Mumbai. Will anyone in railways start thinking this????

[@deveshp30]

double deckers can be used but .. with a new design which allows people to go on upper berth from platform only.. .like at every coach's end there should be a stair which can be made as spacious as you want .. for people to come down or go on the upper decker .. stairs should not be inside the coach but outside ... that will allow them to move faster.

[@hemantpatil8369]

1st of all the same idea which is used in current double decor train is not necessary to be used Insted we can create double decor train my multiple platforms means 2 platform 1 on top of other. And trains will be just one on top of other

[@anujsingh4873]

#askpt Instead of double decker trains, why can't we have double floor railway tracks. It will take huge cost. But considering land cost of Mumbai it will have good return to scale

[@sujalgarewal2685]

Yeah even I was thinking that but I see two issues. First is something he already highlighted, the increased heights would require higher power lines, brigdes, underpasses etc. That would be very costly. Secondly, making train higher would result in a higher center of gravity. That would increase the risk trains toppling over at high speeds. The way to counter this would be to increase the gauge length, which would be insanely expensive.

[@rohanmangale5990]

You mean a elevated track on the existing tracks. Yaa this will be costly but even if we try to build this it would be a challenge as the elevated track needs to be created without hampering the trains flow beneath it. Plus all the platforms also need to be also elevated.

[@rajdeepsen1348]

Well you should see the Sydney local train, it is a double decker train with more space and comfort. I think indian railway should make double decker local train like Sydney.

[@yadav_rahul]

true I live in Sydney and mostly I take train, its so comfortable. 99% times you will get the seats. You can enjoy your coffee.

[@archanbhattacharya1097]

Agar train ki design change na karke Stations ko hi double decker kar diya jaye or train ke andar har ek compartment mein ek stair ese adjust kiya jaye jisse upar or niche kahi bhi problem na ho or upar wale upar ke station mein utar jayenge or niche wale niche ki station mein esa ho to kaisa hoga??

[@demonsshadow6274]

Har station me aise nahi karsakte kyun cost bhi bahut hoga aur feasible nahi kyun station sirf local ke liye nahi bana hai agar upar bhi platform hua to normal express train ko bhi doble decker karna padega jo ki feasible nahi hai

[@shrin210]

Paisa kon dega 😂😂

[@Amoghavarsha.]

Creative idea 💡👌

[@archanbhattacharya1097]

@@shrin210 Government dega or kon..

[@shrin210]

@@archanbhattacharya1097 Government ko kon dega 😂 Public toh deti nhi h Free ka local train m karte h

[@mukherjeesuniversum2665]

Waise me sochta hoon ki jo ICF Non-AC DoubDeck coaches hai wo Fast shuttle during rush hour ke liye use kiya jaa sakhte hai especially in Mumbai and Kolkata... For example- Kalyan to CSTM jo beech me sirf Thane aur Dadar me rukega. Similarly, Vasai - Andheri - Dadar - Churchgate/CSMT fast shuttle. For Kolkata Mecheda - Howrah via Bagnan, Uluberia, Santragachhi; then Kalyani - Sealdah via Barrackpore and Dumdum; Bandel - Howrah via Chandannagore, Serampore and Bally agar chalye to I think Mumbai aur Kolkata me overcrowding ka problem kuchh haad tak solve ho jayega... Railways long distance ke liye toh Fast Local chalata hai, lekin agar short distance ke liye bhi Fast shuttle service with DoubDeck coaches chalaye, jaha sabse zyada bhir hota hai, toh overcrowding thoda solve hoga..

[@gambhiragrawal3569]

#AskPT: Can coach number be increased to 20 in this local trains, as already long route trains have 22-23 coaches approx.

[@akhilghag5898]

Platforms are not so long

[@socks4everyone]

​@@akhilghag5898 yes

[@PowerTrain]

Platform issue

[@tanishsalunkechannel9897]

I guess it can be done on central line and western line but not on harbour because platform issue

[@Makarov934]

Platform badaye ja skta h ye sab vande Bharat k natanki na karke

[@O0O0-Il]

Metro ka jaal bichhao Local se jaan chhudao❤

[@rohanmangale5990]

A major problem with big infrastructures is once they are built then it becomes really difficult to modify them.

[@user-ly2sg6je6r]

coaches should be connected to each other, passengers can pass one to another

[@harshvardhanplayz47]

For real

[@luckygarg9315]

2 min k stop m utarpana mushkil ho jaega

[@mallanathmukherjee4184]

We should redevelop this local train system like tokoyo local trains

[@jackharper5642]

Too costly

[@sahilsatishpandit4083]

I have a thought. Running only fast local trains In speed of 160. Trains will have automatic doors and no seats inside the train. More people can be accommodated. I think train should be 15 coaches and run only between CSMT and Kalyan.(I am considering Central Line only) Travel time from CSMT to kalyan even in fast train takes 1hour because average train speed is only 50-60kmph. If the speed is almost tripled then time taken will be only around 20mins from Kalyan to CSMT for which commuters can stand. And mostly people get down at Dadar only. I think train can halt at Kalyan, Dombivali, Thane, Ghatkopar,Kurla,Dadar and Direct CSMT. I think this thought is ridiculous but it would be quiet nice

[@petercastellino6997]

FROM MR PETER CASTELLINO , BOMBAY , 23-4-2023. I FULLY DISAGREE BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED TO BE FULLY RELAXED WHENEVER THEY TRAVEL .

[@amitsaroj2504]

One thing that can reduce crowd in Mumbai local that setup industries and businesses in all other cities like vododra Surat Lucknow kanpur Bhopal itarsi Indore jabalpur etc

[@shreyas_dubey]

Wow I was thinking about this for a quite long time and loved how you covered this in a video.... telepathy at the next level

[@ashishjain2345]

The only solution for the crowd of Mumbai's local train is decentralize the south Mumbai businesses

[@sagarkamble1867]

Instead of double decker trains, we can have bridges over existing local network and run trains on both tracks (on Bridge and Normal Track) also at station level we can have platform on bridge itself, to minimize infrastructure rework we can have only fast stations such as Thane, Ghatkopar, Kurla, Dadar, CSMT as double platform stations so that fast trains will run on bridges and slow trains will run on below normal tracks. also wherever road bridges crossing over rail line we need to elevate these bridges as we have done in Metros. This will surely double the capacity if we manage crowds at stations particularly fast stations. this will generate revenue to railways in long run such as extra space for shops and advertisement. Also considering special trains for long distance trips such as Badlapur, Virar which will not halt at unnecessary stations which will reduce travel time for long distance commuters.

[@ronnien8068]

It's not a stupid idea. AC trains halt much more time than normal train. If Railway afford that time this is affordable too. Also, it lower deck can be made same as metro where more standing should be there and Upper deck should focus for Long distant passenger with seatings seat. Moreover, Doors should be automatic too though it's Non-Ac Train as our windows are big enough and some ventilation design can be added.

[@drtushar2919]

Exactly.... This guy thinks he knows everything

[@VRailfanGuy]

Instead of making DD local trains, WR/CR can make use of metro-like design in the current locals. In metro, there is more space for standing and less place for sitting, if this is used then capacity can increase because of loss of seats. This is my opinion which could work but only thing that can save overcrowding is automatic doors and Mumbai metro

[@prasannask8320]

they tried that by cutting the seat size, i have been in such a train, people didnt like it much

[@jayeshchoudhary2570]

But there are people who travel from Andheri to CST or kalyan to nerul for office and college due to which they need seats so that they can atleast sit for some time and take rest

[@VRailfanGuy]

@@jayeshchoudhary2570 That is true but because of overcrowding too people lose their lives

[@DraGon1229]

#AskPT why indian railways have open tracks and why railway isn't building separation so people don't fall on tracks

[@atharvagarwal325]

tracks do area ko divide kar deta he log jab bhi ddiwar faand ke jayenge. kbhi metropolitan se bhar aoa

[@DraGon1229]

@@atharvagarwal325 gate ki baat karra hu jahan log chadte hai train me poora line ki baat ni karra hu

[@10hawell]

Double decker inner city trains can only be viable if you have separate upper and lower deck entrances and ramps and crowd control bariers. It's very specialised solutions done in only few places and it breaks the platform for standard trains. Double deckers in normal set up should be only be used in long distance routes.

[@me.arbaazkhatib]

I believe the doorway passage is important but the bogey design needs improvement if we rearrange the seating each bogey can accommodate more passengers easily. I see this personally if the seats took less space people can come in and out more easily and breathability will improve.

[@vegetal8460]

I think we should focus on population decline better for upcoming generations.

[@ronakmistry789]

Flying raanee already chalti hai wide door ke sath & double dekar me interior metro jesa ho jaye to solution aa jayega , dadar chadhne utarane ki jagah side me raheni chahiye

[@jaywant7777]

(1) All 3 main lines ke beech me interlink karke uspe Metro ya local train chalaye ( for e.g. transharbor is interlink between Central and Harbor line ) (2) Western aur Central railway stations ko redesign karke Navi Mumbai jaisa dono tarf se utarne, chadhne ke liye platform

[@sreeragnair4090]

Why is everyone talking about making a new transport system to decrease the crowd rather than city planning, making new cities and encouraging companies to build new offices in the outermost parts of Mumbai metropolitan city maybe even outside kalyan-dombivli city? That way you can change the crowd moving patterns and decrease the crowd and the most important advantage is saving time which mumbai needs it.

[@sreeragnair4090]

I think this channel can make a video on this very topic.

[@neltondsouza6334]

@powertrain I beg to differ. Double Decker trains is not a stupid idea. Sydney Australia is a perfect example. But yes, for it to be effective in Bombay given the population, other modes of transport need to developed first. So may be around 2030 once the metro system is established and becomes the main mode of public transport.

[@sanjoybhattacharjee8731]

A circular track,a circular full track length train ,a circular full length track above it ,a short length train above it , successively with low speed .

[@hiralpatel7170]

Best option he ki seats hi nikal de sab log khade khade jayenge aur space bhi badh jayega secondly doors aur wide kar dene chahiye jisse logo ko chadhne utarne aur chadne me dikkat na ho aur ye trains only office hours ya rush hours ke time hi chalani chahiye

[@KanishQQuotes]

It needs more frequency. That's the only solution. Expand stations and add more lines. Perhaps most stations with 4 lines, so slow and fast go together. There's no other solution. Double decker only makes sense for shuttle service I'm fearing with metro, local train will be ignored.

[@sohamranadepersonal2733]

#AskPt. What are the hurdles faced by MRVC to upgrade signalling systems to CBTC and track designs for high speed rail?

[@Chaitanya1310]

Until and unless express/mail lines are completely segregated from local lines this is not possible. Currently fast lines share tracks with express/mail and semi-fast locals change tracks between fast and slow lines. Even if complete segregation is achieved it won't happen that easily. To convert such a large system to CBTC you will have to keep sections of suburban lines closed for months if not a year. This is absolutely not possible in case of Mumbai. The lifeline cannot be stopped for more than 2-3 days.

[@Chaitanya1310]

High speed rail is for longer distances and cannot be used for short distance travelling. Converting local trains tracks to high speed would be waste of money.

[@sanchayansarkar2953]

The only solution to this is more frequent trains and a bigger network have most last mile connectivity. Double decker is an useless idea. Double decker only good for long journey luxury trains to keep the prices down.

[@sukhdeepsingh3849]

One thing can be done..... Defined entry and exit doors may be given which will ease boarding and Deboarding

[@ranjeetkumar-xv2ee]

Double decker train with wide door design definitely solve mumbai local problem Nothing is impossible

[@surendravishwakarma5654]

Hi Powertrain, your video was very informative, even i was talking the same topic while traveling in local train, i also came up with the idea of double decker train, but later i too realised that it'll be a failure. Suggestion: How about making a different layout for the local during peak hours Ex 1 : make all 15 coaches of local train with the config of single door system means for 1 coach only 1 single door which will open from top to bottom and vice versa or make 2 huge doors for 1 coach will open in traditional manner (mind that this train will be AC ventilated and will reflect design of somewhat our metro train) This train will not have any railing , seats etc which will create obstruction Ex 2 : during peak hours, we can use the above config train in split manner ,means out of 15 coaches, 10 coach will be like i explained above and 5 coaches will be normal current used coaches This will be really helpfull for people onboarding and alighting easily which are short distance travellers and also for long distance travellers (they can sit on those 5 coaches during peak hours) I am sure, this will be very effective for mumbaikars ,less chance of stabbing etc Please read this one ❤❤❤

[@PowerTrain]

Making people follow will be difficult and also increase ingress and debarking time

[@surendravishwakarma5654]

@@PowerTrain how come ? You'll have 1 single door which will work similarly like our current coaches .. instead i think people will swiftly enter and exit the coaches comfortable... Also some platforms have both sides entry/exit point those stations will help more

[@ssb6101]

@@surendravishwakarma5654 single door = high traffic on that door to ingress/outgress.

[@soumyajitmaz6230]

Railway chahe to 400 vande Bharat me 50 DOUBLE DECKER VANDE BHARAT bhi la sakta hai specially un route me jaha already double stack container, double decker, Autolinx car carrier chal rahi hai

[@robo18able]

double decker local trains can be implemented with double decker platforms which would need a complete overhaul of station designs

[@omidaeducation7465]

Nice logic, but it's not trains design issue, it's mumbai infrastructure issue. Routes are not change from long time..

[@karthikeyareddy6758]

Well,The mainline double decker is useless for local trains but can design new coaches with big corridor and doors like mini double decker train and best example could be Sydney metro though some would say Sydney has less ridership but if the trains are more frequent it may work

[@anshgala5443]

While everyone is focusing on metro to reduce conjunction in trains. We should also prioritize our buses system. Make bus rides more comfortable (AC electric buses). And spread awareness about the same. Only Buses + metro + local trains can reduce the conjunction on road. It can't be done alone by local trains and metro without buses.

[@niranjancharantimath2728]

#AskPt Can you please say something about unknown planned city 'New Bagalkot' which exactly resembles Chandigarh

[@theFastestSloth_001]

The intro music is very bad, It's not pleasing to ears. I always skip the intro music. PT please do something about it. I think it's time to change it

[@PowerTrain]

Merko pasand hai bhai

[@amitytt]

Intro Bahut Cool Hai #PowerTrain Bhai👏

[@PANKAJPUNDIR1]

How about double decker platforms for double decker local trains?

[@naiqueb9052]

At ground level we can use electrifying train above we can use metro and we need to update the station so we can use another metros too..

[@Sid-uc5ms]

Bro I use the knowledge from your videos to build cities in Cities Skylines. Works really well ngl 💀

[@kgiplmdrf9488]

I got to know that dd coach and ac3tier coaches have same height, because dd has almost flat roof and ac3 has kind of parabolic cross section roof, dd loooks af it's unusually large, but it reaches same height has ac3tier's extra roof dome height, so height is not a problem

[@crazydrifter13]

Wow. Good to know👍🏼

[@navnitsrivastava4062]

I m in railway signal dept. Mumbai suburban root are already automated signal.. Only solution is either make metro route or extra track for local..

[@samkedar]

Wait for metro network to build out and expressways to complete. This pressure might not exist. If you still want double decker, think as stacked. Top layer will exit on its own platform level

[@hiteshbansal8431]

Is complete standing seats a viable ans useful options for local trains? In peak hours on experimental basis few coach can be made seating less, will be able to accomodate more passangers, the ones travelling shorter distances can choose to travel in those.

[@MegaGanraj]

In order to launch double decker local train there should also be double decker platforms so that upper deck peoples can get down and up in upper deck and same goes for lower deck

[@skilz9525]

That would be expensive as hell ...not feasible concept

[@srikanthshastry4546]

I disagree with this. Please read the entire comment. Intermediate and long distance trains will benefit heavily from double-decker wagens. Germany uses something called doppelstockwagen. These trains are designed very well. The doors are really wide and offer level boarding in 95% cases in all trains. The crowd is not as much as in rush hour Mumbai locals but not too less either. You'll be surprised how crowded these German trains get, especially during holiday season the crowd is wost than in India These trains are designed with lighter metals and the latest emu version uses a single shared co-co bogies with 2 couches like the TGV. These trains come with max of 14 emu double decker couches, are completely AC'ed and support max speed of 200kmph. All this is achieved on standard gauge of tracks not even broad guage like India. This means with the right intent and possible help from Siemens or Alstom, we can build a double decker emu trainset that can be lighter, faster and more spacious than not only our existing Vande Bharat express but also better than its europian doppelstockwagen counterparts. Reference: The German DB new IC2 doppelstockwagen (this does not have the shared bogies like TGV but the rest is as it is) Do some research and let me know what you think. Comments are open for all and I would encourage a civil debate. Thanks.

[@AsperK.22]

#AskPT mumbai local trains loses 20% rider ship in 3 years, when metro will dominate in mumbai so what will be the future of mumbai railway? Do mumbai railway have to dismantle suburban trains or it will will have to replace with another rapid transit system? The end is near. Mumbai local is going to extinct so many factors like metros and private vehicle s and better roadways.

[@myspace1876]

Metro style seating is best option. It gives plenty of space for people to stand.

[@burstrush8389]

what if they start running short distance trains like Dadar to churchgate or bandra to dadar, and have sittings like metro, people can travel while standing for few minutes, creating separate platforms for the short distance train will not affect the traffic of regular trains, this might not solve the problem of overcrowding, but will provide relief to the passengers who travel on short distances.

[@sujitsalvi7621]

Ye kaam Japan ya China valo ko dedo acche se ho jayega. Double decker metro possible hai. Agar upar ke deck me sirf seats aur niche sirf standing too sab aram se jayenge. Lekin hume R&D hi nahi karni.

[@karthikeyakrishna4133]

Absolutely enjoy your content. Although, I do have a suggestion, consider making them in English.

[@jayshah1708]

Mumbai local doesn't need any changes except for being on time! If Mumbai local works on time then more then half of the crowd won't be gathered.

[@1vlogs87]

India needs Double decker in AC variant..with best localized design

[@rkanagala]

Just like Airbus has upper level ingress/egress, it is quite possible for major stations to have a platforms on upper level too..

[@yashpawar-qx8zj]

Double decker ke upar bhi platform kyun nahi panate yane 2nd deckar ke paas upar bhi platform banao🤔🧐

[@Sandeep-zd6dq]

You guys are in dire need of metro, our Delhi metro have a footprint of more than 22 lakhs per day so it will definitely reduce burden on your train system.

[@virajchavan3869]

#askpt Then just change the locos of the train or the different solution in:- Private company should divide their employees in different zones where they live and according to it they should give a private bus service to them for eg a employee working in BKC lives in Virar can travel by train but another employee living in mira bhayankar or borivali can travel through this bus service. They should collaboration with BMC for this also just visit western express highway once 50% are rickshaws and truck and another 50% are cars with only 1 person in it, BEST buses bikes and cab or taxi going/coming from airport so a cab service can be provide for 4 people that mean now on that highway 1 car=4 people and not 1 car = 1 person in it People living in northern suburbs also use train but they have buses but the issue is traffic solution is to reduce the number of cars and rickshaws and to increase bus frequency which will give comfort to people living in Mumbai BIG THING is people should now change their mindset for this purpose

[@JokerJoker-xc7xb]

Well, Bro. The Actual Question must be Why should People have to leave their Comfort Zones, when almost everyone irrespective of their Income are getting Availability of Resources in every Minute at a Cheaper Prize and is Hugely Benefit to them????? And On What Purpose they have to Leave this kind of Comfort Zone???? And what is the Best Alternative to give a Perfect Competition to this State Loco Monoply Bussiness Plan???? I think answering this Question would give an Ideal solution to remove this Problem from its Roots. And Also I dont think there is Nothing Wrong in Indian People's Mentality, they are taking the Benefits from the Services Providing by Government which is every Human's Birth Right.

[@virajchavan3869]

@@JokerJoker-xc7xb the thing is if people want to enjoy their comfort zone Mumbai is not right ace it already is a overcrowded city and you can't get everything without a problem "kuch pane ke liye kuch khona bhi padta hein"

[@JokerJoker-xc7xb]

@@virajchavan3869 If not Mumbai then Where??? Where People will go and earn Money??? Mumbai is a Financial Economic Hub, It has a Potential to gives Employment to the People at Mass Number. I think you know that rate of Town Planning, Complex Industrials Manufacturing Sectors and Urban Development is Less as per Requirement in India. And you must Blame government in India instead of Blaming People. for that Problem. The Land Hoarding by Politicians, Rich Oligarch, Zamindars (Tyranny Landlords), Underworld Mafias the reason behind for Overcrowd in Mumbai

[@virajchavan3869]

@@JokerJoker-xc7xb man there are lots of city and lots of different way to earn money what are these other cities for Pune Nagpur Noida Bengaluru Chennai Hyderabad New Delhi etc

[@JokerJoker-xc7xb]

@@virajchavan3869 For your King information, these Cities are too Overcrowded. As I said, India need to Make New Urban and Town Planning as per Requirements. Than only the Overcrowd in the Cities will be Reduced.

[@deepakdeshpande3746]

Please start the cheapest golden period era Double Decker trams again from Dadar TT .....to reach the last man of the society .....

[@Viivek2309]

Please make a video on cbtc signalling system

[@PowerTrain]

Soon

[@krishsingharora5148]

Mumbai traffic congestion can be solved by introducing water taxis & water buses.

[@useruserddsrffhjyh]

We (All citizens) wish to have better and comfortable transport but double decker train is stupid idea.

[@abhishekpanwar786]

Local train to vardan he ek mumbaikar k liye har 5 min me free yatra itni tez...uske baad metro bhi har jagah vaha ban jana chahiye ...mumbai jesi city me kahi bhi metro bana do chalegi hi..vo bhi full capacity pr....underground metro bhi aur banna cahhiye mumbai me...dusara thoda auto valo kam karna cahhiaye...tisra car valo ko alternate days chalane ka rule bana do

[@IshwarSingh-ed1on]

Just correction its not 30 to 32 seconds. It is 13 to 15sec max

[@RaviRavi-ir7pf]

Can't we make double decker platform for the doors designed only for upper deck.

[@sumanadhikari7264]

#Askpt Is the bullet train in India double or more line ?

[@sachinmestry6174]

Need bothside platform like Thane Vashi track, also need 5 AC dibbas and other NON AC in local trains.

[@Indianrailways11]

But they can use flying ranee and Valsad fast passenger coaches

[@sumeetbadlani5489]

What if they remove sitting from few coaches ? So that more people can fit but they have to travel by standing